WEBVTT - Sam Seder & Sen. Tammy Duckworth 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.120 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.600 today's best minds. And the Senate has passed a sanctions 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.400 bill named for the late Senator Lindsey Graham. We have 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.120 such a great show for you today. The Majority Report 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.160 Sam Cedar stops by you talk about Trump's bad economy 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.759 and the increasing bill for the endless war in the 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.440 Middle East. Then we'll talk to Senator Tammy Duckworth about 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.920 her new resolution addressing the Trump administration hiding the death 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.760 poll of the war in Iran. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.400 But first the news. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:43.720 Smileye, we got some rough job numbers. Everybody's been astounded. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.879 Our economy has stayed strung the song. But a lot 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.360 of those people who've been thinking, wow, we've averted the 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.720 recession are starting to go row. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.440 So listen, this is a bad These are bad numbers. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.279 This is revised the prior two months job reports by 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.319 one hundreds of thousand jobs. It shed twenty three thousand 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.240 jobs in July. That's a sign that the labor market 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.679 hasn't stabilized. The unemployment rate ticked down. There's another problem 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.640 with the two right, which is that it also showed 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:24.200 that workers' average hourly earnings also fell short, and wage 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.480 growth was just zero point one from June or three 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.840 point two from a year ago. And that's below inflation. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.920 So that means that things are still getting more expensive 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.120 and your wages are not keeping up. And look, we 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.640 all know, I mean, this is the elephant in the room, right, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.600 Like we know tariffs are making things more expensive. We 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.880 know tariffs are not bringing back my manufacturing. I mean, look, 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.240 there are three things this administration is doing that are 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.880 making things more expensive. Tariffs, deportation, because it means people 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.960 aren't coming to work, and the labor market is tight, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.480 and if you're building a house, you know one day 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.680 all your workers might be arrested. It creates instability in 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.480 the market, which makes things more expensive and makes people 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.280 more freaked out and less likely to build things. And 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.239 then the tariffs, and then the high price of gasoline, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.160 and then the president you know, gases up like almost 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.560 two dollars, and then you have Donald Trump saying, you know, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.760 the war's over, the war starting, We're going to blow 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.880 them to smithereens. I mean, what Donald Trump has done, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.120 which is what's really I think hurting the economy ultimately 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.240 is like all the credibility of the White House has 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.200 been squandered. So it used to be that when the 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.880 government did things, you may not like it, but you 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.800 sort of trusted it, and all of that has sort 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.200 of been eroded by almost two years of trump Ism. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.760 So we find ourselves in a situation where, and we 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.480 know this to be true, it feels like the president 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.000 is the most interested in things that benefit him and 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.799 the least interested in things that benefit the people who 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.040 put him in office. And you know, even with these 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.480 executive orders, like he has just signed a bunch of orders. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:07.079 One is a birthright citizenship another worth right citizenship order, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.880 like these are things that will not make life less expensive. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.320 Like if you were laser focused on affordability, the first 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.239 thing you would do is you would end the tariffs, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.400 you would end the trade war. You would encourage everyone 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.160 to bring their prices down. That would, you know, cut 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.680 inflation by a little bit, and then you would end 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.320 the war and ran and that would cut gas prices. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.079 But that's not what's happening here. He's just focused on 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.919 stuff like that. And supposedly the reporting is that he's 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.800 going to do a executive order on childhood vaccines another 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.840 thing that is both unpopular and unhelpful, and that does 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.160 not help anyone. So that's where we are. And it's 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.720 just as such a stupid time to be alive. Is 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.520 it the stupidest time to be alive? 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.920 Yes, yes, it's the stupidest time to be alive. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.280 Well, that will be evidence by our next headline, which 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.840 is that Trump is freaking the fuck out just not 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.440 stop truths about the judge who ruled his ballroom is illegal. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.760 Remember, like earlier in the week, we had Donald Trump 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.720 almost firing Judge Box of Wine over the reflecting pool. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.800 Why because she would not support his lie that the 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:23.000 reflecting pool was actually somehow damaged by vandals when it's 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.159 very clear, like on Earth one, we know that the 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:33.200 reflecting pool was damaged by shoddy workmanship. So here's the 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.880 new thing. He's crashing out over a federal appeals court 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.320 ordering him to stop construction on the illegal White House ballroom. Remember, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.040 he never was meant to do this in the first place. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.480 He got no approvals, you know, like this was all 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.280 illegal to begin with. So the reason why he's crashing 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 out is because he knows this is a problem for him. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.200 Okay, it's a two. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.000 To one ruling that said that he has to seek 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:06.159 approval from Congress for the exclusive authority to demolish White 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:11.760 House structures. FYI, the structure already demolished, and at this 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.400 preliminary stage, the National Trust has shown compellingly that Congress 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.760 has not seeded unfettered authority to the executive branch to 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.839 dramatically redesign, reshape, and reconstructed the White House the People's House, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.039 to fit a particular president's desires. I think it's a 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.640 really an important point because so much of the last 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:37.000 eighteen months, almost two years has been Donald Trump just 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:42.880 running roughshaw over Congress and Congress being pathetic. For example, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:48.760 I think about Senator Cassidy today, who decided to vote 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.719 for Todd Blanche despite the fact that Donald Trump has 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.520 ruined him right, has made it so he lost his primary. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.640 Even in spite of that, He's still voted to bring 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.520 Todd Branch through the committee and into a general vote. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.640 And it's just such incredible amount of cowardice. These people 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.799 cannot stand up to Trump. Even when Trump is pulling 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.000 at the Bush line below the Bush numbers are at 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.880 the same as the Bush numbers. They still cannot stand 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.479 up to him, and it's because they're cowards. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.520 So another story that is just a perfect summation of 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.160 what the Trump era is like is that the Trump 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.920 administration has refunded one hundred billion dollars in tariffs. It's 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.160 all going to corporations who are now saying we have 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.880 record earnings to drive up their stocks instead of the 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:34.920 people who paid them. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:40.000 Yes, who could have seen this? Is this capitalism? Who 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:40.640 could have seen this? 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.279 Car It's this stage of capitalism for sure. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.719 Major corporations. They're getting hundreds of millions of dollars back 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.000 for tariffs you are not. Some of these companies have 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.640 raised their prices, some haven't, some have sneakily raised their prices, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.960 but either way, they're making bank on your tariffs. By 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.200 the way, it's not like the tariffs are gone either. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.479 Trump just put them back on. So they're getting paid 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.520 back for tariffs that are going to come right back on. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.200 And also you're not getting any money back, which is 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.920 just an insane way to be. So the Tax Foundation 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.120 estimates that an average US household spent an extra thousand 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.000 dollars thousand dollars as a result of these tips. Remember 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.120 how we were talking about how Donald Trump is not 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.440 focused on affordability. Here are there are people who are 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:33.360 making choices between like food and gas. Okay, and here's 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.520 Donald Trump an extra thousand dollars because of the tariffs. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.600 I mean, this guy is so stupid. And by the way, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.360 I just want to point out the new thing he 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.200 is using, the new law he's using to enact these 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:51.160 tariffs was from the Smooth Holly era of tariffs, like 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.720 smooth Hollie. You'll remember Smooth Holly because it brought on 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.280 the Great Depression. I mean, it is literally like being 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.400 in hell, like everything is so incredibly stupid. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:07.400 Yep. Well, we do see a sign in Trump's script 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.800 on the GOP with the loss of one representative, Andy Ougle's, 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.280 who you may remember as one of the biggest racists 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.440 and a hotly contested contest inside the house. He really 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.600 was one of the most vile, disgusting, disgusting racist people 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.360 to tweet every day, and he has lost his primary. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:26.000 Yeah. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.320 So again, this is an important story for two reasons. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.600 One is that it shows the really diminished power of 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.360 Donald Trump. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:35.240 Number one. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.599 So Trump used to be a king maker, used to 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.280 be able to endorse anyone he wanted make them the nominee. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:48.480 Everyone from Roymore to herschel Walker to carry Lake. You know, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.960 a rogues gallery of some of the worst politicians, the 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:58.320 least talented and most you know, ideologically insane politicians. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.480 And that is no longer word looking for him. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.680 Representative Andy Ogles is the second Trump backed House candidate 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:10.400 to lose this week, okay, because mar Hassan lost in Michigan, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.400 and by the way, he was running against someone who 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:17.000 had dropped out. Trump is now up to six failed 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.439 endorsements this primary season. That's six, okay, which is more 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:26.760 than in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty and twenty four. In 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.960 twenty twenty he had four. I mean, it's just like, 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.480 what you're seeing here is that Donald Trump his power 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.960 is diminishing, and that's what we're watching here, and that 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.360 I think is meaningful. Donald Trump has always had a 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.440 like a lock on his face, and the fact that 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.079 that is not working anymore, I think is meaningful. I 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.960 also want to talk about one thing that Donald Trump 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.040 said to punch Bowl today. He said, Trump argues he 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.880 doesn't need to be campaigning on behalf of Republicans, telling 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.240 Punchball he already won his own race. He added that 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.400 he doesn't know if his supporters will go out and 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.600 vote for GOP candidates, claiming they're not angry at me, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.680 but they are angry at Republicans. I don't think that's right. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.199 I think they are angry at him. The anger of 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.640 the base problem is a real problem, and like that 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.960 Democrats are feeling that too, and that I really do 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.000 think is a failure on the part of Republicans because 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.040 they're in power right now, but also Democrats to some extent, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.160 a failure to deliver on promises. Right, Like, these people 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.280 voted for Trump because he said he was going to 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.640 make things cheaper, and now the average family is spending 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.480 one thousand dollars more because of tariffs which don't even work. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.599 Yeah, just unbelievable, unbelievable energy, but exactly the type of 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.239 energy we get from this administration. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.640 Sam Cedar is the host of the Majority Report. Welcome, Welcome, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:57.400 Sam Cedar. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.720 Oh, thank you, Molly. It's a pleasure to be here. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.360 It's fun to see you. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:03.280 Glad to see you. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:03.960 Yes. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:05.920 So we have these. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.319 Numbers, these economy numbers. I feel like every day is 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.800 groundhog Day. Right, it's not working. The Terriff's don't working. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.240 The endless war in the Middle East, we thought, I 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.920 mean that always seemed like a great idea that's not working. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.600 Like it just feels like everything Trump is doing is 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.400 not working, and somehow he doesn't. You know, the job numbers. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.840 We're seeing these revisions like and it's just like typical 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.079 Republican president stuff. Yeah. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.960 I mean, I think there's two things, right. I mean, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.280 I think there's like a really major structural problem with 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.000 our economy that I don't think like, you know, the 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.920 second half of the Biden administration, let's put it, you know, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:49.760 largely because of Mansion in cinema, but also of Biden 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.079 allowing the process to drag out the way he did 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.280 twenty twenty one, because there was a lot of great 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.800 stuff in the American Rescue Act that would begin to 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.480 address some of this stuff and ended up basically sunsetting 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.720 and then built back better, which I think was going 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:05.719 to address some of. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.920 This manufacturing, certain. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.240 Manufacturing, I mean all of like the industrial policy, but 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:16.120 also like sort of like support for parental leave and 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.559 you know, an extension of the erin income or the 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.760 child tax credit credit. Yeah, there was a lot of 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.080 things that would have addressed essentially our k shaped economy. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.320 The antitrust too also would have addressed this. None of 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.040 that was sufficiently addressed under Biden, and the Trump administration 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:42.839 is doing nothing but sort of like embedding the case economy. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.200 I mean Exon and was it Exon and Mobile came 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:53.079 out with their largest profits quarters in the history of 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:59.240 these massive money juggernauts. So we have this increasingly wealth 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.240 disparity which ends up hurting people in a myriad of ways. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.360 We have this inflation. Now, the job numbers came out today, 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.520 they were negative territory. Yeah, Kevin Hassett would have you 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.320 believe that that was a function of like, well, now 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.640 there's no more immigrants. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.480 I mean that fucking die. So he said, well, don't 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.560 worry because the jobs. Yes, there are less jobs, but 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.880 there are less people to take the jobs. When you 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.480 don't know how social security works, this makes sense. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.960 But when you realize that that means there are less 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.120 people paying into social Security, that means there's less growth, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.400 there's less workers. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.480 There's us that the economy is affected by that jet but. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.920 Also it sort of puts to the lie that they 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:49.320 were taking our jobs. Right, well, that I'm seeking our jobs. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.160 Why did the jobs go away? Like I mean, like 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.520 like it doesn't make any sense. If they went away, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.480 where are the jobs? Then there should be extra jobs, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:05.439 and there's not. Wages are depressed, wage growth is down, 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.200 which also indicates there aren't jobs for somebody to go to. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.360 I think we're at some type of peak in terms 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.400 of women having to work two jobs. None of it's working, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.680 and you get into really really dangerous territory where you 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.960 start to see the economy flag and inflation still creeping up, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.520 and then you're talking about stagflation a little bit. So 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.680 I mean, the economy is a crap show. The Trump 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.240 is never going to address the structural issues with it 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.040 at all, right now, definitely not. And I have this 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.640 to say as a sidebar. You know, the the economy 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.800 has to be addressed in a structural way. I mean, 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.000 it has to happen or we're going to keep going 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.360 bouncing back and forth between fascists and you know, just 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.120 basically non fascist. But I'm most scared about things like, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:01.520 you know, the agencies that have been completely debil both 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.920 from a every other day you find out a new 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.360 you know, Republican version strain of diarrhea that people are 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:14.480 getting because of whatever food is not healthy and the 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:20.680 irs seems to be essentially completely broken, like just broken, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.280 and people aren't getting their refunds. We're obviously not auditing 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.640 people with money anymore. Real problem. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.440 And it's worth remembering that the child tax credit actually 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.480 like lifted half of all children out of poverty. Like 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:42.080 it was wildly successful. It wasn't like a weird experiment 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.520 that might have worked in twenty years, like it literally worked. Republicans, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.000 and with the help of Christian Cinema, who now lobbies 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.480 for data centers, and Joe Manchin, who wants to come 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:53.840 back and. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.040 Does the political spotlight. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.280 With the help of those two, it just expired, like 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.160 just no fan fair nothing. So I do think that's 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.080 a really important point. But I do also think like 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.440 Trump is pretty clear that he just wants corporations to 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.840 make a lot of money and rich people and mostly 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.920 himself and his family to make a lot of money. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.560 And what I think that nobody is talking about here, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.760 and I think we should be talking about it is 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:25.600 how angry voters are. Because voters are really mad, and 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.920 they're mad. I think in a way that we will 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.160 not really be able to get the full picture until 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.360 after the midterms, but they're knocking out incumbents left and right. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.120 Republicans are getting creamed, and you know, Trump plus ten, 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:45.360 Trump plus fifteen, and even Democrat Democratic incumbents losing like 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.920 and ultimately this group I think is going they I 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.000 think they want to see real change, and I think 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.560 that these four years, these two years of trump Ism, 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.240 or these eighteen months of Trumpism have made them only angrier. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.120 Yeah, I I mean, I totally agree, and I think 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.399 I mean, I think there's I think there is a 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.440 general anger. I think there is a unique anger towards 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.280 the Democratic leadership, I. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.320 Guess the established stablishment. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.480 I think there's two things going on there. I think one, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:24.239 we're seeing, like, you know, really a fifteen year project 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:31.280 from Occupy Wall Street, where the left is you know, organizing, coalescing, 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.679 getting understanding what they need to do, finding the vehicles 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.200 in which they can do this. I mean, I think 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.159 that's part of a process. You know, we saw that 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:45.600 with si Ed this week. I also think that there 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:51.719 is a broader, non ideological anger towards the Democratic Party, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.600 which is you guys suck, you like you suck on 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.920 a competence level, not on an ideological level, although that 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.440 may come through, but like. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.840 You just want fighters. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.800 But it's also like there are these issues that I 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.239 think it's it's not just that they're not fighting and 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.480 that they're ineffective, right, I mean they're failing. They failed. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.280 They did not beat Donald Trump. They failed. They haven't 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.040 stopped any of this. But also I do think that 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.240 like you know, Agaza has become I mean, it's not 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.480 a limus test, it's more of like a ticket to entry, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.159 Like what are you talking about? You know, if you 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.280 can't answer this one question, what are you talking about? 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.680 There's no way. I mean, this is what was really 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.720 interesting to me about the race this week in Michigan. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.960 The most interesting dynamic, it seems to me, was Malory mcmurrow, 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.879 because she was sent there as the cavalry for the 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:57.159 failure of the Democratic establishment to have enough self awareness 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.920 as to even like a quality candidate. I mean, Hailey 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.520 was aside from her positions, which I think were bad 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.960 positions to have, particularly in this environment, particularly around Israel, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.800 She's just a bad candidate. She wasn't crisscrossing a Michigan yeah, 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:18.200 not articulating things well, you know, she got like defensive 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.479 about her voice and it's like, I'm sorry, let's grow up, 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.320 you know. So mcmurrow was sort of primed to become 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:31.120 her replacement essentially at this race, and the fact that 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.600 she couldn't pull it off, and she is like just 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.560 a better candidate than Haley Stevens genever speaking, but the 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:43.199 fact that she had to maintain a certain issues set 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.760 to get into position to get the money that Haley 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.199 Stevens had, that's what doomed her. I mean, there were 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:53.119 two things that basically doomed her in my estimation, but 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.600 the biggest was when she decided, like I've got to 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.240 go after Hassan Piker and it's like, nobody knows who 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.840 you're talking about, But why doing that? She's doing that 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.720 for the donors, right, Like, yeah, she's doing that for 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.280 the donors. And so there's this interesting sort of like 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:13.120 catch twenty two that like mcmurrow represents, which is, if 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.800 you're not going to go the populist route, if you're 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.159 not going to go the route where you know, Israel 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.480 Gaza is an eighty twenty issue in the Republican the 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.800 Democratic Party right now. Yeah, if you're not going to 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.480 go that route, you're gonna have to take money that's 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.840 going to put you on the wrong side of that 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.159 eighty twenty divide. And so there's a real sort of 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:37.200 interesting dynamic at play, and it's not going to play 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.280 out too much more because we got our uh we're 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.400 almost done with the primary season, but it's really interesting 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:44.040 for the future. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.879 I also think that the underwritten story here, like there's 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.679 so much anxiety in the punning class about like is 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.439 this the radical left coming? 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.479 And the reality is, like doctor el said, it's a 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:00.359 good candidate. He speaks really well. Manei out apologics money 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:01.800 in your pocket, Medicare for all. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:06.000 Like that's I want that, Like that's those are simple 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.359 things that people want. 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.000 And I think with Mallory, you she just wasn't as 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:11.680 good a candidate. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.600 But I also think that I think you're right, and 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.760 I think the Democratic establishment kind. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:17.080 Of blew it. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:22.240 I think of Daniel Biss who won that very hotly 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:28.560 contested Illinois primary, and he was a candidate who ran 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:35.600 Jewish from Israeli family. Grandmother was a Holocaust survivor, and 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.720 Apak came in and said, if you do not support 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.800 unconditional ads, we're going to come into this primary and 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.360 we're going to take you out and we're going. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.080 To spend against you. And he said okay, And he 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.639 made his whole campaign. I mean, he's quite smart. He 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.119 was the mayor of Evanston and he's he's a mathematician 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:54.600 he taught, I mean, very smart. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.720 But he made a big part of his campaign him 0:21:58.800 --> 0:21:59.920 running against APAC. 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.760 And the importance of having in Israel that does not 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:10.560 do things that hurt you is ultimately besides hurting Palestinians. 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.840 And I think it was very effective yeap. 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.919 What we're seeing as an analogy, when Elon Musk went 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:23.160 to Wisconsin a year ago April to win the Supreme 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:29.560 Court for Conservatives there, his presence, the eighteen million dollars 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.200 that he dumped into that race actually became a liability, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.280 I think. And that's what we're seeing now with APAC. 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.640 I mean, you come in with sixty million dollars from 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:43.120 APACK and it's almost like you're going to lose. That's 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.639 an interesting dynamic. I think that's that's going on there, 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.840 and I don't think that's gonna change. I think there's 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.760 a lot of anger. There's a lot of frustration with 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:56.520 Democrats from the Democratic side, and I think that's we're 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.439 in the sort of like the harvest of that anger 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:00.359 that has been sown. 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.000 Sam, I have a question for you, because like we're 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:08.240 both liberal Jews. People will say to me, they're mostly Republicans, 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.399 but some Democrats will say, like, the left has become 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.280 anti Semitic. 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:14.560 What do you say to that? 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.479 Because I often say, like, well, tell me something anti 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:23.440 semitic that Al Faeid has said, and the keyn't they say, well. 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:24.920 What is happening there? 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:31.399 What they're talking about, I think is they're conflating Zionism 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.560 with Judaism. And I have a lot of theories as 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.120