1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: today's best minds. And the Senate has passed a sanctions 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: bill named for the late Senator Lindsey Graham. We have 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: such a great show for you today. The Majority Report 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Sam Cedar stops by you talk about Trump's bad economy 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: and the increasing bill for the endless war in the 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Middle East. Then we'll talk to Senator Tammy Duckworth about 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: her new resolution addressing the Trump administration hiding the death 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: poll of the war in Iran. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: But first the news. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: Smileye, we got some rough job numbers. Everybody's been astounded. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: Our economy has stayed strung the song. But a lot 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: of those people who've been thinking, wow, we've averted the 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: recession are starting to go row. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: So listen, this is a bad These are bad numbers. 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: This is revised the prior two months job reports by 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: one hundreds of thousand jobs. It shed twenty three thousand 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: jobs in July. That's a sign that the labor market 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: hasn't stabilized. The unemployment rate ticked down. There's another problem 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: with the two right, which is that it also showed 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: that workers' average hourly earnings also fell short, and wage 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: growth was just zero point one from June or three 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: point two from a year ago. And that's below inflation. 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: So that means that things are still getting more expensive 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: and your wages are not keeping up. And look, we 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: all know, I mean, this is the elephant in the room, right, 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Like we know tariffs are making things more expensive. We 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: know tariffs are not bringing back my manufacturing. I mean, look, 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: there are three things this administration is doing that are 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: making things more expensive. Tariffs, deportation, because it means people 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: aren't coming to work, and the labor market is tight, 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: and if you're building a house, you know one day 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: all your workers might be arrested. It creates instability in 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the market, which makes things more expensive and makes people 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: more freaked out and less likely to build things. And 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: then the tariffs, and then the high price of gasoline, 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: and then the president you know, gases up like almost 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: two dollars, and then you have Donald Trump saying, you know, 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the war's over, the war starting, We're going to blow 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: them to smithereens. I mean, what Donald Trump has done, 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: which is what's really I think hurting the economy ultimately 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: is like all the credibility of the White House has 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: been squandered. So it used to be that when the 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: government did things, you may not like it, but you 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: sort of trusted it, and all of that has sort 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: of been eroded by almost two years of trump Ism. 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: So we find ourselves in a situation where, and we 49 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: know this to be true, it feels like the president 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: is the most interested in things that benefit him and 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: the least interested in things that benefit the people who 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: put him in office. And you know, even with these 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: executive orders, like he has just signed a bunch of orders. 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: One is a birthright citizenship another worth right citizenship order, 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: like these are things that will not make life less expensive. 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Like if you were laser focused on affordability, the first 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: thing you would do is you would end the tariffs, 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you would end the trade war. You would encourage everyone 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: to bring their prices down. That would, you know, cut 60 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: inflation by a little bit, and then you would end 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the war and ran and that would cut gas prices. 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: But that's not what's happening here. He's just focused on 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And supposedly the reporting is that he's 64 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: going to do a executive order on childhood vaccines another 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: thing that is both unpopular and unhelpful, and that does 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: not help anyone. So that's where we are. And it's 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: just as such a stupid time to be alive. Is 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: it the stupidest time to be alive? 69 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's the stupidest time to be alive. 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: Well, that will be evidence by our next headline, which 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: is that Trump is freaking the fuck out just not 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: stop truths about the judge who ruled his ballroom is illegal. 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Remember, like earlier in the week, we had Donald Trump 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: almost firing Judge Box of Wine over the reflecting pool. 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Why because she would not support his lie that the 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: reflecting pool was actually somehow damaged by vandals when it's 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: very clear, like on Earth one, we know that the 78 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: reflecting pool was damaged by shoddy workmanship. So here's the 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: new thing. He's crashing out over a federal appeals court 80 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: ordering him to stop construction on the illegal White House ballroom. Remember, 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: he never was meant to do this in the first place. 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: He got no approvals, you know, like this was all 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: illegal to begin with. So the reason why he's crashing 84 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: out is because he knows this is a problem for him. 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a two. 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: To one ruling that said that he has to seek 87 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: approval from Congress for the exclusive authority to demolish White 88 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: House structures. FYI, the structure already demolished, and at this 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: preliminary stage, the National Trust has shown compellingly that Congress 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: has not seeded unfettered authority to the executive branch to 91 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: dramatically redesign, reshape, and reconstructed the White House the People's House, 92 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: to fit a particular president's desires. I think it's a 93 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: really an important point because so much of the last 94 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: eighteen months, almost two years has been Donald Trump just 95 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: running roughshaw over Congress and Congress being pathetic. For example, 96 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I think about Senator Cassidy today, who decided to vote 97 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: for Todd Blanche despite the fact that Donald Trump has 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: ruined him right, has made it so he lost his primary. 99 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Even in spite of that, He's still voted to bring 100 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Todd Branch through the committee and into a general vote. 101 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: And it's just such incredible amount of cowardice. These people 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: cannot stand up to Trump. Even when Trump is pulling 103 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: at the Bush line below the Bush numbers are at 104 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the same as the Bush numbers. They still cannot stand 105 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: up to him, and it's because they're cowards. 106 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: So another story that is just a perfect summation of 107 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: what the Trump era is like is that the Trump 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: administration has refunded one hundred billion dollars in tariffs. It's 109 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: all going to corporations who are now saying we have 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: record earnings to drive up their stocks instead of the 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: people who paid them. 112 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: Yes, who could have seen this? Is this capitalism? Who 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: could have seen this? 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: Car It's this stage of capitalism for sure. 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: Major corporations. They're getting hundreds of millions of dollars back 116 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: for tariffs you are not. Some of these companies have 117 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: raised their prices, some haven't, some have sneakily raised their prices, 118 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: but either way, they're making bank on your tariffs. By 119 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the way, it's not like the tariffs are gone either. 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Trump just put them back on. So they're getting paid 121 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: back for tariffs that are going to come right back on. 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: And also you're not getting any money back, which is 123 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: just an insane way to be. So the Tax Foundation 124 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: estimates that an average US household spent an extra thousand 125 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: dollars thousand dollars as a result of these tips. Remember 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: how we were talking about how Donald Trump is not 127 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: focused on affordability. Here are there are people who are 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: making choices between like food and gas. Okay, and here's 129 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump an extra thousand dollars because of the tariffs. 130 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is so stupid. And by the way, 131 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: I just want to point out the new thing he 132 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: is using, the new law he's using to enact these 133 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: tariffs was from the Smooth Holly era of tariffs, like 134 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: smooth Hollie. You'll remember Smooth Holly because it brought on 135 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the Great Depression. I mean, it is literally like being 136 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: in hell, like everything is so incredibly stupid. 137 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Yep. Well, we do see a sign in Trump's script 138 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: on the GOP with the loss of one representative, Andy Ougle's, 139 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: who you may remember as one of the biggest racists 140 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: and a hotly contested contest inside the house. He really 141 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: was one of the most vile, disgusting, disgusting racist people 142 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: to tweet every day, and he has lost his primary. 143 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: So again, this is an important story for two reasons. 145 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: One is that it shows the really diminished power of 146 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 147 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Number one. 148 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: So Trump used to be a king maker, used to 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: be able to endorse anyone he wanted make them the nominee. 150 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: Everyone from Roymore to herschel Walker to carry Lake. You know, 151 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: a rogues gallery of some of the worst politicians, the 152 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: least talented and most you know, ideologically insane politicians. 153 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: And that is no longer word looking for him. 154 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: Representative Andy Ogles is the second Trump backed House candidate 155 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: to lose this week, okay, because mar Hassan lost in Michigan, 156 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: and by the way, he was running against someone who 157 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: had dropped out. Trump is now up to six failed 158 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: endorsements this primary season. That's six, okay, which is more 159 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: than in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty and twenty four. In 160 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty he had four. I mean, it's just like, 161 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: what you're seeing here is that Donald Trump his power 162 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: is diminishing, and that's what we're watching here, and that 163 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I think is meaningful. Donald Trump has always had a 164 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: like a lock on his face, and the fact that 165 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: that is not working anymore, I think is meaningful. I 166 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: also want to talk about one thing that Donald Trump 167 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: said to punch Bowl today. He said, Trump argues he 168 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be campaigning on behalf of Republicans, telling 169 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Punchball he already won his own race. He added that 170 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't know if his supporters will go out and 171 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: vote for GOP candidates, claiming they're not angry at me, 172 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: but they are angry at Republicans. I don't think that's right. 173 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: I think they are angry at him. The anger of 174 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the base problem is a real problem, and like that 175 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: Democrats are feeling that too, and that I really do 176 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: think is a failure on the part of Republicans because 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: they're in power right now, but also Democrats to some extent, 178 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: a failure to deliver on promises. Right, Like, these people 179 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: voted for Trump because he said he was going to 180 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: make things cheaper, and now the average family is spending 181 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars more because of tariffs which don't even work. 182 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, just unbelievable, unbelievable energy, but exactly the type of 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,239 Speaker 3: energy we get from this administration. 184 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Sam Cedar is the host of the Majority Report. Welcome, Welcome, 185 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Sam Cedar. 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Molly. It's a pleasure to be here. 187 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: It's fun to see you. 188 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: Glad to see you. 189 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes. 190 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: So we have these. 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: Numbers, these economy numbers. I feel like every day is 192 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: groundhog Day. Right, it's not working. The Terriff's don't working. 193 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: The endless war in the Middle East, we thought, I 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: mean that always seemed like a great idea that's not working. 195 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Like it just feels like everything Trump is doing is 196 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: not working, and somehow he doesn't. You know, the job numbers. 197 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: We're seeing these revisions like and it's just like typical 198 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: Republican president stuff. Yeah. 199 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's two things, right. I mean, 200 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: I think there's like a really major structural problem with 201 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: our economy that I don't think like, you know, the 202 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: second half of the Biden administration, let's put it, you know, 203 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: largely because of Mansion in cinema, but also of Biden 204 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: allowing the process to drag out the way he did 205 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, because there was a lot of great 206 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: stuff in the American Rescue Act that would begin to 207 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: address some of this stuff and ended up basically sunsetting 208 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: and then built back better, which I think was going 209 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 4: to address some of. 210 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: This manufacturing, certain. 211 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: Manufacturing, I mean all of like the industrial policy, but 212 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: also like sort of like support for parental leave and 213 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: you know, an extension of the erin income or the 214 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: child tax credit credit. Yeah, there was a lot of 215 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: things that would have addressed essentially our k shaped economy. 216 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: The antitrust too also would have addressed this. None of 217 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: that was sufficiently addressed under Biden, and the Trump administration 218 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 4: is doing nothing but sort of like embedding the case economy. 219 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: I mean Exon and was it Exon and Mobile came 220 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 4: out with their largest profits quarters in the history of 221 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: these massive money juggernauts. So we have this increasingly wealth 222 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: disparity which ends up hurting people in a myriad of ways. 223 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: We have this inflation. Now, the job numbers came out today, 224 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: they were negative territory. Yeah, Kevin Hassett would have you 225 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: believe that that was a function of like, well, now 226 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: there's no more immigrants. 227 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean that fucking die. So he said, well, don't 228 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: worry because the jobs. Yes, there are less jobs, but 229 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: there are less people to take the jobs. When you 230 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: don't know how social security works, this makes sense. 231 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 5: But when you realize that that means there are less 232 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: people paying into social Security, that means there's less growth, 233 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: there's less workers. 234 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: There's us that the economy is affected by that jet but. 235 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: Also it sort of puts to the lie that they 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 4: were taking our jobs. Right, well, that I'm seeking our jobs. 237 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: Why did the jobs go away? Like I mean, like 238 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: like it doesn't make any sense. If they went away, 239 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: where are the jobs? Then there should be extra jobs, 240 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: and there's not. Wages are depressed, wage growth is down, 241 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: which also indicates there aren't jobs for somebody to go to. 242 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I think we're at some type of peak in terms 243 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: of women having to work two jobs. None of it's working, 244 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: and you get into really really dangerous territory where you 245 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: start to see the economy flag and inflation still creeping up, 246 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: and then you're talking about stagflation a little bit. So 247 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the economy is a crap show. The Trump 248 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: is never going to address the structural issues with it 249 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: at all, right now, definitely not. And I have this 250 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: to say as a sidebar. You know, the the economy 251 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: has to be addressed in a structural way. I mean, 252 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: it has to happen or we're going to keep going 253 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: bouncing back and forth between fascists and you know, just 254 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: basically non fascist. But I'm most scared about things like, 255 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: you know, the agencies that have been completely debil both 256 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: from a every other day you find out a new 257 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, Republican version strain of diarrhea that people are 258 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: getting because of whatever food is not healthy and the 259 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: irs seems to be essentially completely broken, like just broken, 260 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: and people aren't getting their refunds. We're obviously not auditing 261 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: people with money anymore. Real problem. 262 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: And it's worth remembering that the child tax credit actually 263 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: like lifted half of all children out of poverty. Like 264 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: it was wildly successful. It wasn't like a weird experiment 265 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: that might have worked in twenty years, like it literally worked. Republicans, 266 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: and with the help of Christian Cinema, who now lobbies 267 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: for data centers, and Joe Manchin, who wants to come 268 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: back and. 269 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: Does the political spotlight. 270 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: With the help of those two, it just expired, like 271 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: just no fan fair nothing. So I do think that's 272 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: a really important point. But I do also think like 273 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Trump is pretty clear that he just wants corporations to 274 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: make a lot of money and rich people and mostly 275 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: himself and his family to make a lot of money. 276 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: And what I think that nobody is talking about here, 277 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and I think we should be talking about it is 278 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: how angry voters are. Because voters are really mad, and 279 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: they're mad. I think in a way that we will 280 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: not really be able to get the full picture until 281 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: after the midterms, but they're knocking out incumbents left and right. 282 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Republicans are getting creamed, and you know, Trump plus ten, 283 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Trump plus fifteen, and even Democrat Democratic incumbents losing like 284 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and ultimately this group I think is going they I 285 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: think they want to see real change, and I think 286 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: that these four years, these two years of trump Ism, 287 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: or these eighteen months of Trumpism have made them only angrier. 288 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I I mean, I totally agree, and I think 289 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's I think there is a 290 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: general anger. I think there is a unique anger towards 291 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: the Democratic leadership, I. 292 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: Guess the established stablishment. 293 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: I think there's two things going on there. I think one, 294 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 4: we're seeing, like, you know, really a fifteen year project 295 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: from Occupy Wall Street, where the left is you know, organizing, coalescing, 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: getting understanding what they need to do, finding the vehicles 297 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: in which they can do this. I mean, I think 298 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: that's part of a process. You know, we saw that 299 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: with si Ed this week. I also think that there 300 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 4: is a broader, non ideological anger towards the Democratic Party, 301 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: which is you guys suck, you like you suck on 302 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: a competence level, not on an ideological level, although that 303 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: may come through, but like. 304 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: You just want fighters. 305 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: But it's also like there are these issues that I 306 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 4: think it's it's not just that they're not fighting and 307 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: that they're ineffective, right, I mean they're failing. They failed. 308 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: They did not beat Donald Trump. They failed. They haven't 309 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: stopped any of this. But also I do think that 310 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: like you know, Agaza has become I mean, it's not 311 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: a limus test, it's more of like a ticket to entry, 312 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: Like what are you talking about? You know, if you 313 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: can't answer this one question, what are you talking about? 314 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: There's no way. I mean, this is what was really 315 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: interesting to me about the race this week in Michigan. 316 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: The most interesting dynamic, it seems to me, was Malory mcmurrow, 317 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: because she was sent there as the cavalry for the 318 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 4: failure of the Democratic establishment to have enough self awareness 319 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: as to even like a quality candidate. I mean, Hailey 320 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: was aside from her positions, which I think were bad 321 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: positions to have, particularly in this environment, particularly around Israel, 322 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: She's just a bad candidate. She wasn't crisscrossing a Michigan yeah, 323 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: not articulating things well, you know, she got like defensive 324 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 4: about her voice and it's like, I'm sorry, let's grow up, 325 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: you know. So mcmurrow was sort of primed to become 326 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: her replacement essentially at this race, and the fact that 327 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: she couldn't pull it off, and she is like just 328 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: a better candidate than Haley Stevens genever speaking, but the 329 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 4: fact that she had to maintain a certain issues set 330 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: to get into position to get the money that Haley 331 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: Stevens had, that's what doomed her. I mean, there were 332 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: two things that basically doomed her in my estimation, but 333 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: the biggest was when she decided, like I've got to 334 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: go after Hassan Piker and it's like, nobody knows who 335 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: you're talking about, But why doing that? She's doing that 336 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: for the donors, right, Like, yeah, she's doing that for 337 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: the donors. And so there's this interesting sort of like 338 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: catch twenty two that like mcmurrow represents, which is, if 339 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: you're not going to go the populist route, if you're 340 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: not going to go the route where you know, Israel 341 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: Gaza is an eighty twenty issue in the Republican the 342 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: Democratic Party right now. Yeah, if you're not going to 343 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: go that route, you're gonna have to take money that's 344 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: going to put you on the wrong side of that 345 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: eighty twenty divide. And so there's a real sort of 346 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: interesting dynamic at play, and it's not going to play 347 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: out too much more because we got our uh we're 348 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: almost done with the primary season, but it's really interesting 349 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: for the future. 350 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: I also think that the underwritten story here, like there's 351 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: so much anxiety in the punning class about like is 352 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: this the radical left coming? 353 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 5: And the reality is, like doctor el said, it's a 354 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 5: good candidate. He speaks really well. Manei out apologics money 355 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 5: in your pocket, Medicare for all. 356 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Like that's I want that, Like that's those are simple 357 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: things that people want. 358 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: And I think with Mallory, you she just wasn't as 359 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 5: good a candidate. 360 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: But I also think that I think you're right, and 361 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I think the Democratic establishment kind. 362 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: Of blew it. 363 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I think of Daniel Biss who won that very hotly 364 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: contested Illinois primary, and he was a candidate who ran 365 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Jewish from Israeli family. Grandmother was a Holocaust survivor, and 366 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: Apak came in and said, if you do not support 367 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: unconditional ads, we're going to come into this primary and 368 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: we're going to take you out and we're going. 369 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 5: To spend against you. And he said okay, And he 370 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 5: made his whole campaign. I mean, he's quite smart. He 371 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 5: was the mayor of Evanston and he's he's a mathematician 372 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: he taught, I mean, very smart. 373 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: But he made a big part of his campaign him 374 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: running against APAC. 375 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: And the importance of having in Israel that does not 376 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: do things that hurt you is ultimately besides hurting Palestinians. 377 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: And I think it was very effective yeap. 378 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: What we're seeing as an analogy, when Elon Musk went 379 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: to Wisconsin a year ago April to win the Supreme 380 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: Court for Conservatives there, his presence, the eighteen million dollars 381 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: that he dumped into that race actually became a liability, 382 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: I think. And that's what we're seeing now with APAC. 383 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you come in with sixty million dollars from 384 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 4: APACK and it's almost like you're going to lose. That's 385 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: an interesting dynamic. I think that's that's going on there, 386 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: and I don't think that's gonna change. I think there's 387 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: a lot of anger. There's a lot of frustration with 388 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: Democrats from the Democratic side, and I think that's we're 389 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: in the sort of like the harvest of that anger 390 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: that has been sown. 391 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: Sam, I have a question for you, because like we're 392 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: both liberal Jews. People will say to me, they're mostly Republicans, 393 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: but some Democrats will say, like, the left has become 394 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: anti Semitic. 395 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: What do you say to that? 396 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 5: Because I often say, like, well, tell me something anti 397 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 5: semitic that Al Faeid has said, and the keyn't they say, well. 398 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: What is happening there? 399 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: What they're talking about, I think is they're conflating Zionism 400 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: with Judaism. And I have a lot of theories as 401 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 4: to why that happens. I mean, you and I, uh. 402 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: I think I'm a little older than you, but we 403 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 4: grew up. I mean, let's put it this way, the 404 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: Holocaust when I was my son is thirteen. The Holocaust 405 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: was a closer to temporarily from when I was thirteen 406 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: then my son is, to when Kurt Kobang killed himself. 407 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: And so, like I think many people who are still 408 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: growing up with that specter, there is a fear. I 409 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: certainly I know that in my Jewish education, it was 410 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: you learned about the Holocaust and then you learned about 411 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: Israel as the sort of like the response to the 412 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 4: predicati of the Holocaust. And personally, I think this conflation 413 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 4: is in and of itself is anti Semitic. When Jews 414 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 4: do it, they're obviously not doing it out of an 415 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: anti Semitism. I think they're doing it out of, frankly, 416 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 4: like an ignorance or a trauma or whatnot. But I 417 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: could tell you, like I had a guy who went 418 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: to my bar mitza, went to my sister's bar mitzvah, 419 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: went to my other sisters bar mitzvah, probably spent half 420 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: a dozen Satyrs with us over the years, maybe more. Oh, 421 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: my dad a year ago and ask if I was 422 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: anti Semitic. And then my dad wanted to know if 423 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: I was going to invite this guy to my son's barmitzva. 424 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: And I'm like, guess, no, I'm not going to. I'm 425 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: not going to allow any Jews at my son's. 426 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: This year because you're anti. 427 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: San Yes, I mean so, I think in some instances 428 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: it comes out of a genuine fear. I think there 429 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: is also a conflation and a knowing inflation mean Zionism 430 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 4: and Judaism. The fact of the matter is is, if 431 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 4: you're genuinely concerned about anti Semitism, you should look at 432 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: what's happening on the right. I'm not saying that there 433 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: is an anti Semitism on the left. There's a Semitism 434 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 4: everywhere on some level, but or at least a bias 435 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: towards Jews, but there isn't anything remotely close on the 436 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 4: left as to the right. If you're going to break 437 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 4: it down in that way, it's just it's an absurd comparison. 438 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 6: Uh. 439 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: What they're talking about is they're they're they're they're pushing 440 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: back against anti Zionism. And I think sometimes you know, 441 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 4: when you look at like Mamdani and Abdul say Ed, 442 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: people are responding to the fact that they're Muslim, there 443 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: is a lot more Islamophobia at play here than there 444 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: is anti Semitism in those instances, in my opinion. But 445 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: I also think it's cynically used at times as a 446 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: way of saying, I don't want somebody who's anti Zionist. 447 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 4: I also don't want somebody who's Medicare for all right. 448 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that it's it's used in many 449 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: ways in that way. I personally feel like Israel is 450 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: making Jews a lot less safer than safer for sure, 451 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, just on a purely empirical level. Don't tell 452 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: me that we need Israel because it's the only place 453 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: for Jews to be safe. And then I'd say, and 454 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: they're always in bomb shelters. Well, I get news for 455 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: you in this country. 456 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: I'm not. 457 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, And net Yahoo clearly is really mostly interested in 458 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: protecting Net and Yahoo from going to jail, which, in 459 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: that way, he's very trumpy. 460 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: He's very trumpy, except for Trump is at a thirty 461 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: two percent approval rating in Net Yahoo's probably a seventy 462 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: eight percent of prove or seventy two percent approval rating 463 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: of somewhere there. I mean, Net Yah, who's been wasn't 464 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: for almost a third of the country's history, prime minister 465 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: or whatever. Maybe it's maybe it's a quarter. I mean so, 466 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: so the I wish there was greater daylight between Net 467 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: and Yahoo and the Israeli people. I wish there was 468 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: a growing political movement in Israel, growing that provided an 469 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: alternate version of of what Israel could be. I don't 470 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: see it. I interview Israeli journalists, they don't see it. 471 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: There's a problem with Israel. And you know, I remember 472 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: having this conversation with a semi conservative buddy of mine 473 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, and I was like, Dude, people like 474 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: you who are going to endanger Israel the most because 475 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: you're letting them drive drunk, and if you don't take 476 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: away the keys right now, it's going to end with 477 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 4: them careening off the side of a of a of 478 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: a highway and in a fiery explosion. And I worry 479 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: about that. You can only push people so much. You 480 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: can only you know, commit a genocide so publicly without 481 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: the world responding. And I think that's where we're at. 482 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Sam Cedar. 483 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: I hope you'll come. 484 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: Back, of course I will, you know, I will. 485 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Tammy Duckworth is the junior Senator from the state of Illinois. Welcome, Welcome, 486 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: Senator Jeremy Duckworth. First, let's talk about what it must 487 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: be like to be a Democrat who is a veteran, 488 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: who is watching this president who said he was going 489 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: to end foreign wars just completely blunder his way through 490 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: American foreign policy. Will you talk us through sort of 491 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: what it's like for you at this moment in the Senate. 492 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 7: Well, you know, there's a lot of frustration, but I'm 493 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 7: really focused on holding Donald Trump and his completely incompetent 494 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 7: Secretary of Defense accountable for their actions and their decisions. 495 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 7: They continue to again, as you mentioned, you know, get 496 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 7: us involved in conflict or receives when Trump actually ran 497 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 7: for office based on no more forever wars, and yet 498 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 7: you know he's engaged in conflict in many places around 499 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: the world, and now what's beginning to look like another 500 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 7: forever war in Iran. You know, Trump knows his illegal 501 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 7: war is deeply unpopular, and he knows it, and so 502 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 7: you know, he's trying to basically hood with the American 503 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 7: people about it. 504 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: So Secretary of what he calls himself, the Secretary of 505 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: War obviously not his real name, but he came to 506 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: you guys to ask for more money. And during that process, 507 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: did you get some insight into sort of the level 508 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: of money that is being squandered at this moment? And 509 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: because it strikes me that a lot of money is 510 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: being spent in ways it's probably not supposed to be. 511 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 7: Oh no, because they have been lying to Congress and 512 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 7: to the Marria people. By lying to Congress, the only 513 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 7: figures we've received from the Pentagon so far. Was many 514 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 7: weeks ago they said the war had cost thirty five 515 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 7: billion dollars. By that point, that was a good six 516 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 7: weeks ago, I believe. And then they said it had 517 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 7: cost thirty nine billion dollars. But by the way, that 518 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 7: doesn't include the cost of infrastructure that has been damaged, 519 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 7: and that was from weeks ago. So we have no 520 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 7: idea how much money they're blowing on this war. On 521 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 7: top of that, Trump has made statements in the public 522 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 7: saying that he's going to ask for anywhere from two 523 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 7: hundred to three hundred billion dollars to rebuild Iran. To 524 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 7: rebuild Iran, I'd like him to rebuild America. I'd like 525 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: to take you know, I mean the state of Illinois 526 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: with like one fiftieth of two hundred billion dollars, we 527 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 7: could use it to rebuild the infrastructure in Illinois. Yeah, 528 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 7: come spend some money. You know here in the United States, 529 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 7: why are you worried about Iran? Well, you know there 530 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 7: they are are running through money so quickly, while Americans 531 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 7: are suffering and unable to pay to fill up their 532 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 7: gas tanks as a result of this war. 533 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: So there's this munitions question that I've read a lot 534 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: about that we might be running out of munitions, can 535 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: you I mean, I assume that you don't necessarily that 536 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: they're not being honest with Congress any which way. But 537 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm just curious if you have any insight, even just 538 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: from your own experience, about the munitions question. 539 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 7: So they're using very advanced munitions. Sometimes they're using very 540 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 7: advanced munitions that cost millions of dollars to attack things 541 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 7: like drones that cost tens of thousands of dollars right 542 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 7: attack THEMS and that type of thing. So this is 543 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 7: this speaks to the incompetence of the Secretary of Defense, 544 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 7: who you know is not leading this war in any 545 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 7: way that shows any understanding of tactics or techniques. And remember, 546 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 7: this guy was an infantry officer who made it to 547 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 7: the rank of major without ever having a come any command, 548 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 7: ever earning a ranger tab jump wings on aerossault badge. 549 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 7: So who was taken off the streets of DC on 550 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 7: January sixth because his leadership doubted his ability to do 551 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 7: his job. 552 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: So that's who is. 553 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 7: Secretary of Defense right now. 554 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: And so I'm not surprised that they're blowing through munitions 555 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 6: the way they are and again this has to do 556 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 6: with decisions that's being made by the leadership and the 557 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 6: Pentagon on how to expand these munitions. 558 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: I have another question, which is supposedly the Ukrainians offered 559 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: the United States help with the drug you know, because 560 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: they have this incredible drone program which has basically almost 561 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: won them the war with Russia, kept them way punching 562 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: weight above their weight. That supposedly the Ukrainians had offered 563 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: this technology to America and we had declined. 564 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that's true? 565 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: Have you heard any insight into that and do you 566 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: have any sense of that? 567 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 7: So, the Ukrainians do have a very advanced a drone 568 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 7: program that is constantly being refined hour by hour, like 569 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 7: they'll learn something in the morning that they will put 570 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 7: into play that evening. In fact, I've gone out to 571 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 7: look at some of their processes that they're working on 572 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 7: with allies located in Poland. For example. They call them 573 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 7: Franken programs like Frankenstein programs because they're just cobbling together 574 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 7: what they need to to make for air defense and 575 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 7: the like. So I don't know, I don't have confirmation 576 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 7: that heck Seth turned down to Ukrainians I would not 577 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 7: be surprised that they did. But I know that Ukrainians 578 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 7: have a very advanced drone program and that they've also 579 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 7: offered it to other allies. They've offered Tornado allies to 580 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 7: help them as well. And so I think this is 581 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 7: where we concern me work with the Ukrainians to really 582 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 7: take advantage of what they've learned to make our forces 583 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 7: safer and also more deadly if we need them to be. 584 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: So you have served. I can only imagine because I 585 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: read these articles about Pete Hegsath going and making they're 586 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: not promoting women, they're not promoting people of color. The 587 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: way the army works, from what I understand, you know 588 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: much better than I do. The way the US Armed 589 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: Forces works is that there's a lot of protocol for 590 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: these promotions that usually when you've gotten to that point, 591 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: it's because you've done the things you're supposed to do. 592 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: So can you talk to us about how this kind 593 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: of anti woke agenda is really just seems like discrimination. 594 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 7: Oh, it's racist, it's racist, a misogynist. Yeah, you know, 595 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 7: for all of his bless about bringing meritocracy back to 596 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 7: our military, the most unqualified secretive defense our nation's history 597 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 7: is doing the opposite. And you're right when you are 598 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 7: finally made put onto the promotion roles. You've done everything 599 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 7: that you're supposed to do. You've held every command, you've 600 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 7: done all of your stuff. You've done your education, military education, 601 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 7: and your leadership not just one level up, but your 602 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 7: leadership two and three levels up. Stay this person sin 603 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 7: should be promoted. They put you on a voter role 604 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 7: on the promotion rolls, and it goes forward for the 605 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 7: Secretary of Defense to personally reach down and cancel the 606 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 7: promotion of every woman who is getting a promotion in 607 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 7: the general officer's rank and half of the black men. 608 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 7: He actually did that personally shows a level of racism 609 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 7: and misogynistic tendencies of this Secretary of Defense. All I 610 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 7: can think of is this man must have been beaten 611 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 7: out by a woman or a person of color at 612 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 7: some point when he failed as an army officer, and 613 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 7: now he's just trying to get some of his own back. 614 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 7: But here's the problem. It's going to drive highly qualify 615 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 7: folks out of the military. Who's going to see this happening. 616 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 7: You're going to see colonels like, why am I going 617 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 7: to try to make it to general officer. When you 618 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 7: know hard work and merit doesn't matter. It's only only 619 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 7: the color of my skin and whether I pee standing 620 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 7: up matters, right, And so this is this is where 621 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 7: we are, and we certainly can't afford to get back 622 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 7: to a military that's hollowed out, which is what Pete 623 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 7: Hexseth is doing. 624 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that in the last Trump administration there was 625 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety that they were going to do 626 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: this in the military, and they maybe did a little 627 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: bit of it, but not the same way. This time, 628 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: it's much more pronounced, right, It. 629 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 7: Is much more pronounced. And the reason that they were 630 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 7: not able to do this in the first term was 631 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 7: that there were Trump administration appointees who stood up to them. 632 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 4: Right this term. 633 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 7: They put completely incompetent, unqualified individuals who are not willing 634 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 7: to stand with them. Hexset is one of those individuals. 635 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: So you have a little news for us, But I 636 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: would love you to talk about what it is that 637 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: you are putting on the floor right now. 638 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 7: So I'm going to be introducing a bill that will 639 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 7: honor the sacrifices of our troops in war. Basically what 640 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 7: Donald Trump and Hexseth are doing is that they on 641 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 7: their own decided that at some point in April, because 642 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 7: we were not actively bombing Iran at that point and 643 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 7: they were negotiating with Iran, that the war had ended. 644 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 7: And so anybody who was wounded or killed between April 645 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 7: and in July of this year were not wounded or 646 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 7: killed during combat actions. And this is their way of 647 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 7: playing a shell game to hide the true number of 648 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 7: kias and wounded from the American people. And so four 649 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 7: individuals who lost their lives where the reclassified is not 650 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 7: having lost their lives in combat, and over two hundred 651 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 7: service members who were wounded were reclassified as not having 652 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 7: been wounded in combat. This is a way to hide 653 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 7: the true number in terms of human cost of war 654 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 7: from the American people. It also has a consequence that 655 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 7: those particular troops who were reclassified will lose benefits as 656 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 7: you get higher benefits, and if you are killed, your 657 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 7: children and your spouse would get higher benefits if you're 658 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 7: killed in a combat action as opposed to not. And 659 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 7: so now he's literally stealing out of the pockets and 660 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 7: the mouths of military families. 661 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: It's such it believably dark moment in American history. I 662 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: want to ask you, do you think that Like One 663 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: of the things that I'm struck by is I have 664 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: a kid who's an ROTC. So I see how incredible 665 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: the military is at being this egalitarian organization. The way 666 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: it works is really well, are they going to be 667 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: able to break it? Is my question for you. 668 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 7: They're trying to break it. We're going to not let them. 669 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 7: It's why I'm introducing this built We're going to resist 670 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 7: them every step of the way, and we're not going 671 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 7: to let them do it. I love the military, and 672 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 7: I love the Army too much. I never thought I 673 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 7: would join the military, come from a military family, but 674 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 7: I was going to go into the diplomatic core. But 675 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 7: when I showed up at basic training, it didn't matter 676 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 7: that I was a little Asian girl who was on 677 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 7: food stamps. 678 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: Right right. 679 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 7: It only mattered that I could shoot straight, and if 680 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 7: my buddy couldn't carry his rucksack, that I was going 681 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 7: to help carry his rucksack. It only mattered that I 682 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 7: wanted to be part of the team. And that's when 683 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 7: I fell head over heels in love with the Army 684 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 7: because it was a pure meritocracy and it didn't matter 685 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 7: who I was, where I came from, what I look like. 686 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 7: It only mattered that I was helping, willing to carry 687 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 7: the load and be part of the team. And Donald Trump, 688 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 7: the five time draft dodging coward of a president that 689 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 7: we have, can do all that he can to try 690 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 7: to destroy the military. But we're not going to let them. 691 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 7: It's why I'm still here fighting them. That's why I'm 692 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 7: introducing legislation. Our nation and our men and women in 693 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 7: uniform and their families who also sacrifice and serve, they 694 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 7: deserve better. 695 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: That's why I'm here in Congress. 696 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you, Thank you. 697 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: Senator Duckworth, thank you. No moment, Jesse Cannon, my junk fast. 698 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 3: You know, when I think of who I want making 699 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 3: decisions and who's in touch with what really needs to 700 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 3: be addressed to this country, I think of ninety two 701 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: year old guys in Iowa who've been married for seventy 702 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: two years and then are making laws about whether or 703 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: not flifters should be policed by ice. 704 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 1: This is yet another Republican thing where it's like they're 705 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: looking for problems that don't E's as to counter the 706 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: purported national scourge of organized retail crime. By the way, 707 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: it's worth knowing that a lot of this retail crime 708 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: actually is coming from like a little bit higher level 709 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: than shoplifters. It's like people who have an organized crime ring. 710 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was proven that the consulting that did the 711 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 3: report on this was some of the most insanely off 712 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 3: reporting there was, and the data was totally fought right. 713 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: But Chuck Rassley, who is very old though he is 714 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: very into vacuuming, he has a bill that eliminates coordinated 715 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: retail theft and shoplifting, which he says is happening at 716 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: unprecedented levels. It's not really but okay, and he wants 717 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: to use ICE to do it. Now, a few thoughts 718 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: on this. ICE is really not trained. Part of their 719 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: charm and part of their problems is that they're not trained, 720 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: which is why they've killed so many people and why 721 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: they're constantly getting into trouble in any which way. So 722 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: why would you give them more responsibility, and why would 723 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: you have them police citizens, and why would you have 724 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: them in stores? I mean, there are so many different 725 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: reasons why you do not want ICE wandering around and 726 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: trying to arrest people. You don't want them arresting non citizens, 727 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: but you really don't want them arresting citizens. 728 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: That's where we are. 729 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: I do not think that this is a good idea. 730 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a bad idea. I think this 731 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: is dumb, and I think that it's a problem. I 732 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: just think like this has got disaster written all over it, 733 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: Like this is the president's secret police. And I don't 734 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: think that they should. 735 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: Have more power, more. 736 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: Jurisdiction, more any of this. It's just a fucking disaster 737 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: way to happen. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. 738 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 1: Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday to hear 739 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: the best minds and politics make sense of all this chaos. 740 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: If you enjoy this podcast, please send it to a 741 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: friend and keep the conversation going. 742 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.