WEBVTT - What Bryce Harper AND Manny Machado Wish They Did As Rookies 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.440 Welcome back to Is this a great game or what 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.319 with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshon, I'm his son, 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:16.120 Jeff Kirkshon recording on Father's Day. Happy Father's Day, Dad. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.760 And save to you, Jeff. And now you're a father 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.759 twice with body bell, so this is even more special 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.800 to you. How has today gone for Dad number two? 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.199 Well, if I'm being honest, late last night, so Saturday night, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.280 my wife kind of looks at me. We are like 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.680 ten days into having a newborn. We have the toddler 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.120 who's almost three, So trust me, I'm glad she's not 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.480 super focused on Father's Day. For goodness sake. I mean, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.479 my wife is recovering from delivering a baby. We're taking 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.320 care of this new body. We're trying to manage that 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.520 our toddler still loves us. It's a very stressful situation 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.840 over here. But she kind of looks at me and goes, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.680 what do you want to do? Right like, because that's 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.120 the way my Father's Day goes? And I told her, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.240 is this not so? Jeff Kirkchin, I said, I want 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:12.440 to organize the garage and cut the yard. I told her, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.240 I want to do manual labor on Father's Day, and 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.640 she said, okay, we'll free you up in order to 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.400 do it. And listen. I love the snuggles with body, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.080 I love playing and coloring with McKinley. But these are 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.120 things that have been on my mind that I need 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.800 to get done, and I want time to do them. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:40.200 After you're done organized. Yes, it's not pathetic, Jeff. You 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.560 got that from me. And after you're done organizing your garage, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.840 I want you to come organize our garage. How about that. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.680 I can organize my garage on a Father's Day. We 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.480 would need a father's month to get through yours. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.320 I think we would need a father's year to get 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.200 through our not the point, I'm really quick. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.120 It's worth noting that you and I both without communicating 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.440 war dad or grandfather shirts. You have a for those 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.360 on YouTube, which you should subscribe right now. If you 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.400 haven't already, check us out Great Game or what dot 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.600 com or that's the website you can get to our 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.520 YouTube from there. Of course, we want you to subscribe 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.320 and be a part of the podcast. Dad. You have 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:29.440 a pop pop sweatshirt excellent, well done right. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.560 Wearing it for the first time. It was a Father's 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:38.240 Day present. From your mother. Being a grandfather is all 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.520 kidding aside, the greatest thing that's ever happened to me, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.320 because I've got more children and my children are evolved 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.480 in this equation. It's so great. And my dad was 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:53.400 the greatest grandfather ever. His nickname was pop and since 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.720 I couldn't take that because he's the best ever, I've 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.440 always said it takes two of me to equal one 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.239 of my That's why I am pop pop. And Carson, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:08.000 our oldest grandson, oldest grandchild, said the other day that 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.960 you should be pop pop like five times because you 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.800 have five grandchildren, so you shouldn't be pop up. You 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.960 should be pop hoop pop pop pop pop pop up 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.040 pop pop. How about That's that's incredible. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.040 That's so perfect and so fitting for you. So you've 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.519 got your brand new pop pop sweatshirt. And I have 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.240 this shirt that says girl dad now granted as of now, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.680 I am no longer only a girl dad. I am 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.840 also a girl and boy dad. I got one of each. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.080 I got my son Body who's ten days old, and 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.960 I got my daughter McKinley, three in August, and I 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.920 got to get a new shirt obviously, and this one 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.080 is a little bit tight on the dadbod, so it's 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.200 probably good that I can get a new one. My 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.880 chest hair is popping up. Thanks for that. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.920 Good for you, Jeff. Let's get you a new shirt, dad. Jeff, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.960 So my dad, since it's Father's Day. My dad was 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.120 the greatest dad ever, and as I said, the greatest 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.680 grandfather ever. And he taught me everything I needed to 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.680 know about baseball. He taught me how to play the 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.160 game as well as my two brothers. He taught me 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.400 how to love the game, and he gave us all 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.520 a great feel for the game. My dad, you remember, Jeff, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.240 Dad was. My dad was a good hitter. I mean 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.360 I can remember him being a pretty good hitter in 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.120 his seventies. So he used to joke around when he 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.840 was in his seventies that he was a better hitter 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.560 than Joe DiMaggio because at seventy he might have been, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.840 because I'm sure Joe Demagio never picked up a bat 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.760 after he retired, and my father still loved to swing 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.920 a bat when he was in his seventies. So jokingly, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:49.080 I made a license plate frame and the license plate 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.760 frame said better hitter than Joe DiMaggio. So in the 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.760 final ten years of my dad's life, he drove a 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.840 car in which the license plate frame said better hit 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.719 her than Joe DiMaggio. You remember that, right, Jeff. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.360 Yeah, And you know, I don't want to speak ill 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.680 of the dead. But the reason, one of the reasons 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.520 why Joe DiMaggio was such a fierce competitor is because 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.600 he was just that. He was fierce. He was no 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:19.360 joke out there and nothing would upset him more. Any 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.760 player to pick to mess around with Joe Demaggio might 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.719 be one of the last I would want to. But 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.880 the best part of the story is the fact that, unfortunately, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.040 at his passing, that then became Nana's car, my grandmother. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.920 So she drove for years better hitter than Joe DiMaggio. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.320 And people would pull up and see an eighty seven 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:40.880 year old woman driving. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.359 Right, and the story there is she's parked at a 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.599 traffic light. Again, this is my mom, the greatest lady ever, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.120 who grew up in England. So even though she grew 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.560 up in our house, she's not exactly the biggest baseball 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.880 fan ever. And a guy pulls up next to her 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.360 in the car, rolls down as his window and yells 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.280 jokingly at my mother, I bet you're not a better 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.360 hitter than Ted Williams. And she came home and told 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.800 me that story and basically asked, what do you What 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.160 do you think he meant by that? So I had 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.080 to explain the guy in the other car was trying 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.440 to be funny about this, and it was lost a 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.120 little bit on my mother. But that's okay. And as 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.320 you know, Jeff, my dad, the way he taught us 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.960 how to play the game was just so important to 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.400 him and to us. A number of times I would 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.120 take a car ride with him and he would just 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.719 out of the blues say, all right, you're playing third base, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.719 first and second, you know, ground ball to your left, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.760 fast runner on you know, where's the ball going. He 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.919 did this all the time, and I'm going to have 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.320 you fill in the blank on this. In the in 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.200 the rec room, he used to routinely after our games 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.640 would throw a pillow down in the middle of the 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.640 wreck room while we're watching baseball at night and tell us, like, 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.800 how to make the double play and what happened on 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.719 the one time where things went a little awry in 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.400 the rec room when my dad was teaching us how 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.040 to make the double play well. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.320 God bless your mother. First of all, three boys, really 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.000 four boys when you count her husband, who was a 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.520 kid at heart up until the day he died. And 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.080 I want to tell a pop story about how much 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.760 of a kid he was, even to me when he 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.480 was well into his eighties. But what had happened was 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:32.000 turning the double play, threw a ball right through the 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.600 glass door. He had one of those paneled glass doors crash. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:40.320 Of course you hear nana, boys, what happened? And Pop 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.240 goes to you, youngest, little timmy can do no wrong. Hey, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.280 take the fall for this and I'll let you off easy. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.840 And that's exactly what happened. What did he take you 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:50.880 out for ice cream after? 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.200 Tell Mom that you did it, and I'll get you 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.160 off easy. That's what my father said. Of course, my 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.680 mother figured all of this out, and she knew her 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.680 mischievous husband was just kidding around on this anyway. But Jeff, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.600 I told you what a good hitter he was. This plaque, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.200 which was your brainchild, is in my office, my baseball office, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:18.320 and it lists the ten greatest hitters of all time. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.760 And for those who can't read it, these are the 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.560 ten greatest Babe ruth Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Lou Garrig, 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.840 Jeff Kirkchin, Joe DiMaggio, Willie Mays, Mickey Mannle, Hank Aaron 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.439 and Stan Musial. So, according to this plaque, my dad, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:39.040 who played at Watertown High in outside of Boston and 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.880 would have played at MIT undergrad except for they didn't 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.880 have a baseball team while he was there. He's one 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.520 of the five greatest hitters of all time according to 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.160 a plaque that hangs in my office. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.079 How about that, Well, it's so funny too, being named 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:59.200 after your dad, my grandfather, Jeff Kirkchhin. Now, one day 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.960 when that gets asked on to me that plaque, my 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.040 kids are gonna have a lot of questions. And let 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.000 me just say we've spoken of this. I was a 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.920 theater kid in high school. I was not a ballplayer. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.480 I got the fear of the ball. I didn't grow 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.120 fast enough and I had to leave baseball in the past, which, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.199 by the way, Dad, just on an aside, you did 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.640 an incredible job raising me and allowing me to go 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.000 after something that I clearly cared about, which was performing. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.480 You did everything right. But I will say going down 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.640 the music route, taking piano. All of that was because 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.680 of my grandfather. My grandfather, this great baseball player who 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.240 loved sports more than anything and loved raising four boys, 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.680 three boys, excuse me. He always told me do not 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:49.280 give up playing the piano, because he always wanted to 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.600 be able to play the piano and play and sing. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.880 He was the guy who stood up at his own 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.640 birthday party when the power went out and started singing 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.560 Frank Sinatra just so the party could keep going. That 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.559 is who I was raised by and keeping with piano lessons. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.560 Pop died when I was ten years old. Every time 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.400 I got discouraged, I thought about Pop telling me, never 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.320 give up on this, because you'll be grateful. And now, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.920 at age thirty two, I can sit down and play 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.480 a song and sing and entertain people at a bar, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.079 or in the basement or wherever. And I'm grateful to 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.360 Pop for doing that. It's the sign of a great 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.600 father in you, Dad and letting me pursue a dream 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.280 of performing, and a great grandfather for doing just the same. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.920 I mean. And as a dad, Now, those are lessons 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.000 I've learned. You have an image of what you think 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.520 your kids will be. Right. I have this idea that 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.000 McKinley will be this great dancer and performer and be 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.760 on the stage just like her dad. But she could 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:49.280 be a lefty softball second baseman in a second, you know, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.679 one of those slap hitters that gets on base that 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.480 could change everything. But it's pouring into those kids like 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.240 you did and like Pop did to me and Kelly. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.360 That is so important, and so on Father's Day. I 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.480 think of you too all the time, and I know 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.080 you're the most humble man in the world. But you 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.880 learned how to be a dad from your dad. That's 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.800 why you're a great dad. And I learned how to 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.080 be a dad from my dad, and that's why I 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.640 like to think I'm becoming a great dad. And I 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.520 want to just give a quick shout out to all 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.839 of the dads out there who grew up without an 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:28.880 example of a father, because your job is incredible and 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.160 incredibly hard to become something that you never had a 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.600 good example of. I think my job's easy because I 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.440 just I'm just sacked as goofy as my dad, and 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.280 I just get to be like my dad and how 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.280 I remember him when I was a kid. But to 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.319 those who didn't have a dad growing up, Hats off 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.600 to you. To the single moms out there that have 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.000 to be dad, Hats off to you. To the stepdads 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.720 who have stepped up, Hats off to you on this 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.360 Father's Day because all of you have an important role 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.720 to be played. And a happy Father's Day to all 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.600 the members of the family out there. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.200 When my puppy Bella has something wrong, I'm not going 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.360 to go around googling what to do, Yeah, Kratz, Let's 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.760 have a better plan. 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Jeff, how many times do you think 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.240 you laughed out loud with Kent Murker in the hour 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.880 and ten minutes we had him on. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.200 It was so great, Dad, It was so much fun. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.600 His stories about the what did we count seventeen Hall 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.719 of Famers he played with right? Does that sound right? 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:42.720 Right? Thematic stories, the Chipper Jones stories, the Bobby Cox stories, priceless. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.120 And I thought I had heard a lot of stories 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.800 because I collect stories for a living. He told at 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.120 least five stories that I hadn't heard before. And that's 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:55.400 what really makes it great for me. And last thing, Jeff, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 Today's Father's Day is also the final round of the 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.920 US Open, And we're just going to have a little 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.840 fun with this. We're not here to hurt anyone's feelings. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.280 We are just trying to make a point about the 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:14.080 different levels of athlete that we meet in sports, and 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:22.080 these PGA Tour players are just so unbelievably good, and 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.880 I'm not sure the average fan truly truly understand. So 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.480 I'm going to ask you again, Jeff, what does an 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:36.120 eighteen handicap shoot on the final day at Shinnecock, the 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:42.520 diabolically difficult course where the US Open was held this year. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.640 Going into the final round, I think only five players 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.080 were under par. That's how hard this course is. So 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.040 the eight Let me describe who I think the eighteen 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.720 handicap is. He's a guy who plays his little home 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.360 course and a god love him for going out there. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.840 And he's playing fifty nine hundred yards from the white 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.120 tees and he's raking three footers, taking gimmes. He's not 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.480 sure the rules of the game. You know, some guys 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.360 will take a triple maximum that type of thing. So 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.560 I'm asking you that guy gets dropped into the eight. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.280 He gets dropped into the final pairing of the day. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.560 He plays with Wyndham Clark and Scotty Scheffler. With the 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:31.120 game that he has from his little course, what is 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.040 he going to shoot on the final day of Shinnakok 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:39.160 when it is televised. He's playing with gallery surrounding him, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.480 and he's playing with the best player of the world, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.880 Scottie Scheffler and Wyndham Clark, And what is that guy 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:46.520 gonna shoot? 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.520 He's playing by all and he has. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.000 Right and the only rule for this day is you 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.800 have to put out and you have to follow all 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.840 the rules of golf. There there are marshalls there checking 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.800 every single move. So what do you think that guy 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.880 is gonna shoot today? And this is nothing against an 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.600 eighteen handicap, but. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.240 Well, I like to think, honest to god, if I 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.240 were to keep a handicap, which I don't anymore because 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.880 I got two kids and my life is full of 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.680 other things. But I like to think today, if I 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.880 were to keep an honest handicap, I'd be like a twenty. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:21.800 Right. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.080 I always say I'm a bookay, so I always think 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.640 of it in in me And honestly, I think I 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:34.600 think I'm shooting a one eighty. Is that crazy? 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.080 I don't think so. I started at one eighty and 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.680 I am willing to go up on this and I'll 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:42.920 never forget to ask. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.960 I always say, like, there's no cap, we're not doing 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.480 a double, Like a double par is what I would 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.200 cap today, right, Like if you are in a ten 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.240 on a par five, you just write ten, pick it up, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.880 let's go. But listen, if you hit two, you're scoring 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.800 a twenty on a whole. You absolutely are because you're 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.280 gonna put off the green. You're gonna you're gonna six 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:07.520 or seven put some holes because these PGA players put 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.880 too far and put off the green. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:15.960 Think about that, right, And I'm idian that Jeff I said, well, 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.520 I asked this to former Major League pitcher Ed Farmer, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.879 one of my favorite people in the world, the late 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.720 Ed Farmer, and he was a really good player. I 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.320 got about halfway through, you know, all the elements of 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.840 this question. I didn't even get to explain everything. You 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.880 gotta put out all that. He interrupted me and said, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:40.800 two hundred two hundred is what a eighteen to twenty 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.120 handicap is going to shoot. And again, with all due respect, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.200 just don't tell me that with all that pressure, you're 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.680 just gonna get up there and hit three seven irons 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.760 perfectly and get to a park. All right, It's just 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:53.719 not happening. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.399 That's what people say on social media when we've brought 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.240 something similar up. They're like, I'm going seven iron, seven iron, 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.639 seven iron, and you know, I'm getting an eight on 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.719 every hole. And I'm like, if you could do that, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.160 why wouldn't you do that in your normal game. You 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.040 can't clean a seven iron four times in a row 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.560 on your municipal course. Why how are you doing it 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.560 every hole under the hole under the pressure of the 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.160 US and You're I'm shooting. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:20.359 One to eighty. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.080 I'm I'm accidentally hitting a woman with her baby. Right, 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:28.080 I'm so shaken. I'm gonna break a club because I'm 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.840 gonna be hitting off some crazy surface because I'm stuck somewhere. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.119 I'm gonna drop. Let's see eighteen holes. I'm dropping on 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.080 average twice a hole because there's gonna be holes where 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.400 I can't hit it over a water or I can't 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:46.720 you know, people don't realize the difference between a scratch 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.919 golfer and a PGA player, right right, Think about that, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:56.359 the scratch golfer is the best player you've ever played with, right, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:02.520 and he he's plus twenty on that course? Am I wrong? Here? 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.680 Is he playing book golf on that course. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.560 I'm not gonna. I'm not getting an I'm. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.120 Gonna I agree with you the different But he's plus nine, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:12.680 plus ten. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.960 The different levels, right, the different levels, Jeff. And again 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.040 we're not here to bash an eighteen handicap. We are 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:26.320 here to explain how unbelievably good these tour players are. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.200 So when I tell you all the time about how 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.600 great baseball players are, no one would put a ball 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.760 in play in a hundred swings, you know, against Paul's schemes. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.719 It's the same idea about these tour players. They deserve 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.960 our utmost respect for the work that they do on 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.200 the golf course. So we'll get into that. We'll have 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.120 some discussion on that. Just remember, Jeff, when I asked 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.840 you the other golf question at the Masters. If I 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.600 gave you a six shot lead at eighteen, if I, 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.520 as I put it, if I dropped you on the 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.520 tee with a six shot lead, could you hold it? 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.560 To which Steve Rushing, the World's Funniest man, said, I 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.520 thought you were going to say, if I dropped you 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.720 on the green with a six shot lead, Could you 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:16.200 hold it? That's how hard he thought putting at Augusta 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.200 would be and the pressure that you would be under 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.520 to try to make I saw a couple guys miss 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.400 two foot putts this week. Eighteen handicap's going to miss 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.639 that a bunch of times because their hands are going 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.479 to be so steady. Okay, enough of golf. I love golf, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:37.119 but it's just another reminder make sure you understand the levels. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.679 I'll never forget. When I talked to Chris Mullen, one 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.320 of the great shooters of all time, we were talking 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.840 about shooting and what people don't understand. He just looked 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.760 at me with that beautiful New York accent, Chris Mullen. 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.280 He goes, Tim, you just got to learn to stay 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.399 in your lane. Stay in your lane. And I'm just 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:59.040 saying the US opened at Shittacock is a lane at 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.160 an eighteen handy CUK has never been in ever. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.400 Absolutely All right, Dad, Well, let's stick with what I mean, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.560 at least somewhat of what we know, which is baseball. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.119 Let's go into our takeaways, sponsored by Simon's Heart and 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.359 Babe Ruth League, Inc. Who are partnering this spring to 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.680 protect the hearts and lives of young baseball and softball 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:23.520 players everywhere. Dad, what do we have for the takeaways? 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.280 Yeah, well, heart is the key word here for the 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.560 first takeaway, Jeff, I consider doing a whole riff on 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.720 Father's Day moments because there's so many of them. Ken 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.880 Griffy Junior and his dad hit back to back homers, 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.280 not on Father's Day, but that's as good a Father's 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:44.160 Day moment as baseball has ever seen. But on June twentieth, 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:50.360 twenty ten, Father's Day, John McDonald had made a promise 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.480 to his dad to always go down on the field, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.120 which he did all the time anyway, and greet all 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.680 the fans who are on the field for Father's Day, 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.679 just because that's what big leaguers should do, you know, 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:07.080 engage with the fans, especially kids on Father's Day. But 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.600 John McDonald's father had died five days earlier, But in 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.359 keeping his promise to his dad, he did exactly what 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.680 his dad had asked him to do. He went down 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:22.400 on the field and engaged with fans everywhere. And it's typical. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.480 John McDonald one of the best defensive players I've ever seen, 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.359 as good a guys you'll ever see who played the game. 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.479 He got one at bat that day, Jeff. He batted 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.000 in the bottom of the ninth inning, and he hit 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:38.000 a two run homer five days after his father died. 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.840 And that of that's one of three dozen stories we 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:47.200 could tell about guys honoring their father on this day, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.600 but that one has always kind of stayed with me 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.640 because John McDonald I think had thirteen career homers at 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.640 the time. I know he finished his career with twenty eight, 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.600 and yet as he was honoring his father, he had 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.520 a two run homer in the bottom of the ninth inning. 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.280 How great is that? It brings a tear to your eye, 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.960 doesn't it? It's so perfect done well, it does to me. 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.560 It does to me too, absolutely, it's so beautiful. 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.359 All right, Well, let's move on. Zach Geloff of the 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.320 A's going into Sunday, so we're a little outdated here, 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:26.800 had hit in twenty three consecutive games, and Jeff, just 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:31.520 a reminder how hard that is speaking of the levels, Okay. 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.920 Ted Williams's longest hitting streak was twenty four games, Babe 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.720 Bruce's longest hitting streak was twenty six games, and Luke 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:45.480 Garrett never hit in twenty consecutive games. Now, of course, 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:50.440 the understanding here is those guys walked so many times 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.639 that it was most unusual for them to get five 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.760 at bats in a game because they were always getting walked, 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.760 sometimes two three times a game, So they didn't have 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.600 They were not exactly the prime candidates to have a 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.120 long hitting streak. But I just want you to know, 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.359 twenty three games in a row, no matter where this ends, 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.359 pretty darn impressive. Agree with that. 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.359 Yeah, it was a different game back then, obviously, so 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.800 when you talk about the reach base safely streaks, you 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.359 see a little bit more for Ted Williams and Babe Ruth. 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.720 But is that's so crazy for a guy this day 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.000 and age to be getting on base twenty three games 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:29.000 in a row as of Sunday. 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.159 That's exciting, right, getting a hit twenty three games in 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.360 a row? Okay? The Marlins in June, going into Sunday 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.480 thirteen and four in June, Max Meyer is one of 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.520 their pitchers. He's eight no with a two point eight zero, 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.040 And our good friend Elliott Johnson, former Major League infielder, 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.920 told me several years ago, wait do you see Max Meyer? 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.800 He's got one of the greatest arms I've ever seen 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.600 on a young pitcher, and all these injuries have kind 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.159 of piled up. But now Max Meyer is the pitcher 0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.399 that Elliott Johnson told us about, and he is absoluttely 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.439 dominating right now, as are so many others, especially in 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.080 the National League. Otto Lopez of the Marlins is hitting 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.320 three point thirty two. He's leading the major leagues and 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.320 hitting and Clayton McCollough, the manager, has done a really 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.440 good job with that team. I know a scout friend 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.160 went in there, hadn't seen the Marlins in a long time. 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.600 He called me, he volunteered. He just called me to say, boy, 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.000 the Marlins are really playing the game the right way, 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.480 and that manager knows exactly what he's doing. We don't 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.400 talk much about the Marlins on this podcast, but they 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.520 deserve some credit, especially with the way they've played in 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:36.320 the month of June. 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:45.440 Krats Mint Mobile plans still just fifteen bucks a month, and. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.840 You're getting a ton from that fifteen dollars. That's right. 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.959 And we've talked about this for a while. It hasn't changed. 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.040 It's still all there for you. 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Who's had another really good year. 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.760 I mean, he's a tremendous defensive player, but he's hitting 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.560 the ball out of the ballpark. He's really strong. I'm 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:08.840 not saying the Twins are going to trade him or 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.040 should trade him. In fact, he came out and said, 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.159 I'm a twin. I want to stay a twin. But 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.160 who knows if someone comes over and bowls them over 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.320 like the Phillies. How do you think the Phillies would 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.680 look with Byron Buxton added to their outfield. You, being 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.640 a Phillies fan, you'd be pretty happy about that. Right. 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.320 I called you the other day. It was not family related, 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.280 and it wasn't technically podcast related. It was simply trade 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:36.560 targets for the Phillies related. You remember who I asked 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:36.880 Hi about? 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.639 Yes, right, right and everything? 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.240 Okay, I said, Junghu Kim, what does contract look like? 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.679 Can we get him? That was the only one. Then 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.000 you said no, no, it's got a big contract. I said, okay, 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:52.520 all right, see it? By right, rare you to talk baseball. 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.440 That's non podcast related. And when we're not talking pot, 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.520 we're talking family. This was simply fandom question because every 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.080 once in a while when your dad sim Kirks, and 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.800 you can ask him these questions, but you didn't have 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.800 a good answer for me, not your full The answer 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:05.679 was probably not. 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:11.119 Jeff Right, White Sox shortstop Colson Montgomery is off to 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.680 an amazingly good start in his career. He just hit 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.600 the five hundred and eighteen at bat mark, which is 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.160 roughly like a full season. And in that full season, Jeff, 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.400 even though it's over two years, he's got forty one 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.240 homers and one hundred RBIs in five hundred and eighteen 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.680 at bats and he's a shortstop. And last I look, Jeff, 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.840 the only guys who have more homers than him. This 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.480 may not be true, still, I think it is since 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.720 his day that he came to the big leagues last 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.320 season are Aaron Judge and Shoheo Toni. So you know, 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.800 this is why the game is in such good hands 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.520 right now. These young kids come up and they are 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:54.280 ready to go. Colson Montgomery is ready to go. I 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.040 got a kick out of this. The other day, Jeff, 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.320 I was talking to Bryce Harper about the pitching that 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.600 we see today, and Bryce Harper told me that Manny 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.440 Machado got to first base in their game against pottery. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.640 This was a couple of weeks ago. But he looks 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.680 at Manny Machado and he says, he said, boy, we 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.760 should have taken more advantage of twenty twelve in the 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.040 major leagues when both of them were just kind of 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.320 coming along, right, He said, Back then, guys through eighty 0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.280 eight to ninety they throw their curveball at seventy five 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.680 miles an hour. He looks at me, it laughs, he goes, 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.960 those days are over. And Manny just shakes his head 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.600 and goes, those days are over. It's unbelievable. We talk 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.959 about the stuff all the time, Jet, but that was 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.520 fourteen years ago, and Bryce Harper is just shaking his 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.600 head at a curveball at seventy five miles an hour. 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.960 That never happens. Today, we see a curveball at ninety 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.880 five miles an hour. We see we see Jacob Mizerowski 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.200 one hundred and four with the four seams. 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:57.200 He's he's throwing up right three in a complete game 0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:58.520 in the ninth. 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.960 In right right, All right. A quick correction here, Jeff, 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.560 not for anyone in particular, but I saw something the 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:11.040 other day about four strikeouts being a golden sombrero. Now, 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.360 that is not what I grew up understanding that to 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.320 be okay, three strikeouts in a game is a hat trick, 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:24.040 Four is a sombrero. Five is a golden sombrero. So 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.920 if you strike out five times in a game, as 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.840 as Kyle Schwarber and others have this year, that is 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.040 a golden sombrero, not a sombrero. I'm right about that, 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.120 because I know when I first started covering that came up. 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.480 And let's see if you can remember, Jeff, I told 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:46.720 this story what six strikeouts in a game will be 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:48.000 called from now on? 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.000 Well? Is six a horn? 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.640 Yes? Yes. I was at the game when Sam Horn 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:58.440 of the Orioles struck out six times in one game, 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.000 and I went to see the eight Great Mike Plan 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.200 again after the game, and I said, all right, Planny, 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.440 three is a hat trick, four is sombrero. Five to 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.720 golden sobrero? What is a six? And without hesitation, it's 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.600 like he'd already thought it through. He goes six will 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.840 be forever known as a horn, and if anyone strikes 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.200 out seven times in a game, it will be called 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.160 a horn of plenty. 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.320 You know, Dad, I just googled really quick. July seventeenth, 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.240 nineteen ninety one. So we're coming up on the legendary 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:36.000 thirty five year anniversary of the six strikeout Horn. 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.800 Right, Sam Horn, the first position player to strike out 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.160 six times in a nine inning game. That's pretty amazing. 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.760 So and last thing, Jeff, I just want to make 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.480 this clear, and I want to open this up to 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:52.360 our best readers, listeners. Whatever. Okay, when a pitcher makes 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.560 an error, it is counted and the run scored. Let's 0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:01.120 say it is counted as an unearned and a lot 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.480 of people object to that. They think if the pitcher 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:08.400 makes an error it should be an earned run. I've 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.880 seen this many many places. I've seen this many places 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.360 for the last forty five years. Just curious what you 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.240 think about this, Jeff. If a pitcher makes an error, 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.640 should it be an earned run or an unearned run? 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.000 If that guy scores easily, it needs to be an 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.600 earned run. But there's no debate in my mind that 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.640 that needs to be an earned run, because not that 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.880 someone could have the wherewithal to think this quickly ahead, 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.280 but you could make something look like an error to 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.960 try to make it an unearned run. If you're the 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.880 pitcher and you know you might not be able to 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.000 make a play on the ball, right, I don't know. 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.880 I don't think you have the wherewithal to do that 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.440 ahead of time. However, my point is you're the one 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.160 making the mistake. The reason why there's unearned runs is 0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:01.479 because the left fielder dropped an easy fly ball, and 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.920 it shouldn't be on the pitcher that he dropped it. 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.000 But if the pitcher's the one who made the mistake, 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.360 it's an earned run, right, Okay, Jeff, I think you're 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.560 I think most people feel the same way that you do. 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.840 I'm just gonna give you the rule book definition of this. Okay. 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.640 Earned runs and unron runs are supposed to gauge the 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:27.680 value of a picture. As a pitcher, when he releases 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:32.240 the ball, he is no longer technically the pitcher. He 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:36.800 is now a fielder. So we should not punish the 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:43.920 pitcher for being a bad defensive player because that's he's 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.680 a fielder now, not a pitcher. Does that make any 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:47.360 sense to you? 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.480 Yeah, and I get it. We need to kind of 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.560 separate the two statistics, right, there's fielding statistics and then 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:58.040 pitching statistics. But to me, pitching has everything to do 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.040 with playing the field too, but I mean right, all. 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:05.520 Right, it's an interesting question. It's an interesting question, much 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:10.719 like batting around and all that stuff. But boy, that still. 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.680 Rages up up again. 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.040 No, we're not We're not doing that, all right. Those 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.160 are the takeaways Jeff and uh I have a million more, 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:20.680 but for time, let's move on. 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.799 We'll move on from there, and our takeaways today are 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:28.000 brought to you by our friends at Simon's Heart. If 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.640 you're a Babe Ruth League player, coach, or parent, you 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.200 can win exclusive side merchandise from foul Territory from is 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.520 this a Great game or what? And other prizes from 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.680 Simon's Heart. You can visit right now just aball dot 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.640 org to learn how to enter for a chance to win. 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.680 Thanks again to our friends at Simon's Heart for being 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.560 a part of our podcast. All right, dad, let's go 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.839 into the quirk jins. What do you have for us? 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:57.239 Well? Saturday, the Phillies game against the Mets was basically 0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.400 an entire quarts in itself. We talked about this a 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.120 few weeks ago, but the Phillies became the second team 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.480 ever to have a player hit three home runs in 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:12.000 a game and a teammate hit for the cycle in 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.319 the same game. So Kyle Schwarber had a three homer game, 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:19.840 including two home runs in one inning, and Bryce Harper 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.120 hit for the cycle. And if you remember, Jeff, we 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.960 just used this a couple of weeks ago, Tony Lazeri 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.840 of the thirty two Yankees, he hit for the cycle. 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.920 And remember he hit for the cycle in order, single, double, 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:38.160 triple home run and the home run was a Grand Slam. 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:43.200 And in the same game, Luke Garrigg hit four home runs, 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:48.520 not three like Kyle Schwarber did. So not to diminish 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.799 what the Phillies did the other night, I mean, that 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.040 was an amazing night, but hitting for the cycle in 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.520 order and the home run is a grand Slam, and 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.440 the other guy h's four homers in a game pretty amazing, Jeff. 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.080 This is what struck me as odd, well not odd, 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:08.560 but this is the fifth three homer game of Kyle 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:13.960 Schwarber's career, so he joins a bunch of others, like 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.080 four other guys. He's no, he's one of six guys 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:23.279 who have hit had five games with three home run 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:28.880 five three homer games, okay, and three players have six 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.360 three homer games in their career, Sammy Sosa, Hall of Famer, 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.680 Johnny Mize, and Mookie Betts. How about that? So the 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.160 record for three homer games is six. Let's keep it 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.400 not a slam here. Hank Aaron had one three homer 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.080 game in his career. Babe Ruth in the regular season 0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.919 had two, but he had two more in the postseason. 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.480 And let's see if you can remember even one. I've 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.520 used this stat before, Jeff even one, five hundred home 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.440 run hit career, who never hit three home runs in 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.880 a game, And now Kyle Schwarber has done it five times. 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.160 So Hank Aaron had won. I always remember that, right, 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.400 five hundred homer guy who never hit three homers in again. 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.080 Three in a game. And again we're not being critical. 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.520 Three homers in a game is a lot, but Kyle 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.799 Schwarmer's got five of those games. 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:24.799 I'm Jonah Blaker, help me, all right. 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:30.600 David Ortiz, Raphael peal Merrow Gary Sheffield all had five 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.359 hundred career homers and never hit three in a game. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:34.520 Pretty cool, huh? 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.479 That is pretty cool. All guys from like the same 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.520 era too. That's kind of nuts that would happen. 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.120 Yeah, kind of nuts, all right, this is I'm not 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.000 sure what this means yet, but through seventy eight games 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:49.920 entering Sunday, the Orioles had been shut out one time 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:56.319 all season, and they had pitched thrown one shutout all year. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.280 So I needed to know the last time a team 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.120 got this deep into a season having only been shut 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:08.560 out one time and only threw one shutout. So the 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.960 answer is the two thousand and five Reds that was 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.319 twenty one years ago were the last team to go 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.919 this deep into the season with less than two shutouts 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.959 four and against. Does that surprise you at all? 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:28.080 Yeah, it really does. It really does, because the shutout 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.839 number there is I mean, you just see a lot 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.640 of those. I feel like lately with the pitching game, right. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.280 Jeff, their teams like the Red Sox and the Giants 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.480 have been shut out. I know the Giants have been 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.240 shut out eight times. I think the leading shutout pitching 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.920 team has nine. The Orioles have one of each. I 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:55.400 just found that kind of interesting. And again, this is 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.200 the game we played today. Spencer Steer of the Reds 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.520 entering Sunday was in a three for forty five slump. 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.920 Three for forty five in his last fourteen games and 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.480 all three were home runs. So last forty five at bats, 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.719 he only had three hits and they were all homers. 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.880 Does that not speak to the game that we played today? 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.439 Jeff, Absolutely, We're going yard, dad, and if we don't, 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.600 we're striking out. 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.600 Well, that's kind of how the game works. So Nick 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.520 Kurtz of the A's the other day had four strikeouts 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.920 in a game, which four in a game is what Jeff, 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:29.759 we just went over this four is. 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.319 A four is a zombrero. 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.200 Right, So he had four strikeouts in the game, but 0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:39.680 he got the game winning RBI, the walk off RBI 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.359 with a bases loaded walk. So seems kind of odd 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.360 a guy strikes out four times in the game but 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.960 walks the game off. In this case it was a 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.919 bases loaded walk. So Alex Kirloff in twenty twenty four 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.680 for the Twins was the last player to punch out 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.719 four times in a game but have the walk off RBI. 0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.480 Did you think it would be further back or closer 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:03.279 to now? 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.320 I think it'd be further back too, But nothing surprises 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.320 me anymore. Did you call Frank with that one? 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.839 No, that was in our regular That was in our 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.319 regular stuff. So in our regular ESPN stuff, So that 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.680 was good. But I did call Frank for this. This 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.160 is a little this is very old, but I just 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.759 finished the story on the hit by pitch rate, which 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.960 I've told you about. JJ Weatherhold, a young player for 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:32.160 the rookie for the Cardinals, got hit five times. I 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:36.040 mean got hit in five consecutive games. Hit by a 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.800 pitch in five consecutive games. So I said to Frank, 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.919 when you know, when's the last time. So we went 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.840 back the live ball era in nineteen twenty nine, twenty 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:49.399 nineteen twenty on. Carlos Quinton in two thousand and eight 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.440 is the only other player to get hit by a 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.360 pitch in five consecutive games. 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.719 Five I mean, I mean that's a rookie where five 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.160 straight game. That's that's how game respect in the clubhouse, 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.640 right because any any way to get on base, you're 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.120 doing it for the team. I so sad this day 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.440 and age, and I know pitchers are throwing hard, so listen, 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.200 I was afraid of the ball. So no disrespect to 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.520 our major league players. But like when it's so hard 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.880 to get on base and you see guys kind of 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.040 diving out of the way, wear it let's go. We 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.120 need base run. 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:20.560 Let's go. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.560 When there's Jacob Misrawski out there, get on base because 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.040 he's gonna throw it really hard. It only hurt for 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:26.680 a minute. 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.279 I think I think it's gonna hurt for longer than that. 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.080 And you know how much I love playing around with names. 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.840 I had a little trouble this week. But Zach short 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.040 Is plays for the Mets, and he was playing shortstop, 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:44.120 and Nathaniel Lowe was playing first base for the Reds 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.960 and Short put down a sacrifice bunt and was thrown 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.799 out at first base. So we had something resembling a 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:57.239 short Low put out at first Low short, short, low reach. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.319 Well that's what we considered naming the podcast Short and Low. 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:10.200 Yeah, the good point, Jeff. Hey, So the commissioner, Mike Shure, 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.680 who's got way more important things to do in his life, 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.640 send us a send us a text message. What two 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.960 o'clock in the morning. I know it woke me up 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.399 at two o'clock in the morning. My thing goes off 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.240 and I'm thinking, who is texting me at two o'clock 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.160 in the morning. It was Mike. Sure, So tell everyone 0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.319 what the commissioner of is this a great game? Or 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.400 what came up with and why it fascinated him so much. 0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.319 Well, trust me, I if you had told me five 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.040 years ago that I would get a late night text 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.440 message from Mike Shore, I would say you're absolutely nuts. 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.319 But I mean he did send it a group text 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.560 to the two of us. It contained a screenshot which 0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:52.920 is a list of all of the unassisted triple plays, 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.839 and he writes, going down an unassisted triple play rabbit hole. 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.360 Now gonna He is West coast, right, So it was 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.400 one twenty three am, which is about ten twenty pm 0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.800 right his time. How did I never know this? Only 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.920 fifteen in history and two on back to back days. 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.520 So think about how long we've been playing baseball. There's 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.520 fifteen of them and two of them happened back to 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.880 back days. This is incredible, right, And then you know 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.960 he decided to go down a rabbit hole more and 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.160 he's texting us, the commissioner of the Game of the 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.760 podcast obviously texting us yeah. 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.400 But he's right. So Jimmy Cooney of the Cubs a 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:35.200 shortstop unassisted triple play on May thirtieth, nineteen twenty seven, 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.719 and the next day, Johnny Noon First Basement for the 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.840 Tigers gets an unassisted triple player Noon. He's the first 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.520 baseman first and second. Nobody out line drive to him. 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.520 That's one out tags first because the guy and then 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.680 he runs and tags the other guy and it's a 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.960 triple play all by himself. So pretty hard to do that. 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.839 But that's what Johnny Noon did. That's what Jimmy Cooney did, 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.279 and they did it on back, back to back days 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:02.759 in nineteen twenty seven. 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.319 Pretty neat so beautiful, all right, dad, on this date 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.000 in baseball history, it's Monday, June the twenty second, What 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:11.960 do you have for us? 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.960 All right? So in nineteen sixteen, Babe Ruth, very underrated 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.440 pitcher in his own day, was one. 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.120 Of the stop there. I thought you were about to say, 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.080 Babe Ruth, very underrated player back in his day, Right, 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.880 I would have lost my marvels if that was secure, right. 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.520 All right? Better than Matt Stares, let's just put it 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.520 that way. Babe Ruth pitched the three hit shutout. Babe 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.160 Ruth has as many career shutouts, by the way, as 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.720 Pedro Martinez, who, at least for a brief period five years, 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.160 is the best pitcher I've ever seen for a five 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.480 year period. So Babe Ruth pitched a three hit shutout 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.440 that day and the game lasted one hour and eighteen minutes. 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.520 That's how the game was played back then. Babe Ruth 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.600 just got it and threw it. And on the same day, Jeff, 0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.960 fourteen years later, Babe Ruth hit hit It completed a 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.520 two game stretch where he hit five homers in two games, 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:08.080 six homers in three games, which tied a major league 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.320 record for that many homers in so few games. So 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.080 it just shows you, Babe Ruth has pitching records and 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.880 home run records and hitting records, which is why he's 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.960 the greatest player of all time for me still and 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.280 people yell at me for that, but it's my list, 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.640 so that's where I'm going. And he's the best hitter 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.759 on this list. Jeff Kirchen's the fifth best hitter there. 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.880 You go, very good, okay. On this date in nineteen 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.520 fifty one, I love this. Willie Mays hit his first 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.560 extra inning home run of his career. Now, Jeff, and 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.680 putting you on the spot, you might look really bad 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.920 about this, but Willie Mays hit the most extra inning 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.520 homers in his career on this date in nineteen fifty 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.560 one he hit his first How many extra inning home 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:58.640 runs did Willie Mays hit? Just take a guess, I 0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:02.680 would say, maybe this is really hard. I don't I 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.560 didn't want to most ambush you with home runs. 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.759 I'm gonna say five? Am I way up here? 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:14.120 He? Yes, he had twenty two extra inning home runs. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:19.200 How about that? I believe, if I remember correctly, Charlie 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:23.200 Maxwell hit five extra inning home runs in one season. 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.879 Oh that's pretty good. I think that's the record. I'm 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.000 doing that off memory. Don't yell at me if I've 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.320 got that wrong. All right. On this date in nineteen ninety, 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:36.240 Bobby Cox took over for Russ Nixon as the manager 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:40.040 of the Braves. Bobby was the general manager of the Braves, 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.840 and then he took over, and of course history followed, 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.879 because the Braves went to the World Series the next 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.440 year and went on to win fourteen division titles in 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:54.680 a row. And I say that again because Kent Merker, 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:59.120 former Braves pitcher and former pitcher from ten other eight 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.600 other teams. He's our guest. He tells some fascinating, hilarious, 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.920 great Bobby Cox stories. 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.719 Yeah, we love I said it on the interview and 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.280 you'll get to hear it tomorrow. I don't think anything 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.279 brightens our day more than Bobby Cox's stories, and we 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.200 re explore the stories that Jeff Frank core Frenchie told 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.600 us on the podcast back in season one. You absolutely 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.640 cannot miss. So make sure you subscribe and follow wherever 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.000 you're listening or watching right now so you don't miss that. 0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:31.400 Share the podcast with a friend. Kent Murker, incredible storyteller, 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.440 Love love loved having him on and can't wait for 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:35.720 you to all hear it tomorrow. 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.760 It's gonna be great, right, Okay. In nineteen seventy eight, 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:45.880 Willie Harris was born, and in nineteen eighty two, Ian 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.520 Kinsler was born. So these are two major league second 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.640 basemen born on the same day in nineteen seventy eight, 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.120 and they hit a home run in the same game 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:03.279 on their birthday, their shared birthday. It's the only time 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:07.280 in Major league history that two guys on their shared 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:11.400 birthday each hit a home run in that game. I 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.759 told you. Ian Kinsler came up to me the next 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.799 day and he said, I know something that you don't know. 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.359 You'll never know this, And he told me that and 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.560 I checked it out. He was right. I don't know 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.160 how he knew that. But in that grade, the two 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:27.359 starting second basement, one for the Rangers and one for 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.560 the Nationals. And it doesn't matter who the teams were, 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.680 they the two starting second basement, on their shared birthday, 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.879 each hit a home run. So that was this date 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.200 in baseball history. 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:50.160 All right, Dad, the wheel? Wheel up off, Kurtain. Are 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:51.000 you ready to spin? 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:53.520 Yeah, let's spin the wheel. 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.279 All right, here we go. We put your suggestions great 0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.280 game or what dot com? You can make your suggestion 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:03.120 right there. We love Kirkchon. Now a Monday specialty. Here 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.600 we go. I'm gonna give it a spin. Dad has 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:11.479 to riff off whatever h pick off moves? Pickoff moves? Dad, 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:12.360 is that we landed on? 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.360 Oh boy? Yeah? Someone mentioned like, who's got the best 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.719 pickoff move? That's a really good question. Kenny Rogers had 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.560 a great pickoff move. There are a bunch of guys 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.080 who had great pickoff moves. There was a guy named 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.120 Paul Doyle. I think I've got this right, and in 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.520 the minor leagues he picked off like thirty six guys 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.240 in one season, thirty six guys off of first base. 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.640 But the only pickoff story that I really know that 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.960 is worth telling is that Tippy Martinez in nineteen eighty 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:47.000 three picked off three batters in the ninth I mean 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:50.799 three runners in the ninth inning. Now, remember Tippy Martinez 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:55.000 is trying to save a game or keep the game tied. 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.719 But because Joe Altabelli, the manager of the Orioles, had 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:03.440 used up the entire bench, he had to pick. He 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.480 had to use len Saccata, who was the second baseman, 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.080 as his catcher because he ran out of catchers and 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.799 Lenzcatta had never caught before in a major league game. 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:20.320 So the three it was like Barry Bunell, Dave Collins, 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.400 Willie Upshaw. I think it was in that order. First 0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:25.400 guy gets on, he goes, well, I'm gonna go steal. 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:29.400 They've got a second base, don't plate pick. Tippy picked 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:33.319 off the first guy, and then Barry Bunnell came up 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:37.440 next and gets on base, and Tippy picked him off. 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.799 And then the first base coach told Willy Upshaw, the 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.040 third guy to get on first, whatever you do, just 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.960 stand here and don't move, and Tippy threw over and 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:51.520 picked off Willie Upshaw. Also, as far as I know, 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.919 it's the only time in Major League history that one 0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:58.919 pitcher has picked off three runners in one inning, which 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.279 is just amazing. And the great Mike Flannagan, who I 0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.600 will quote again, once told me. He said, he said, 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.720 Tippy had the worst pickoff move of any left handed 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.719 pitcher I've ever seen. And he said, I bet he 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.600 picked off a handful of guys in his career other 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.560 than those three games, but in those three and years later, 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.959 Jeff I did kind of a you know, a remembrance 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.960 of that, and I said, Tippy, like, do people still 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.479 remember that? And Tippy Martin is one of the best 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.920 guys you'll ever meet. Looks at me and he goes, Tim, 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.560 I'm not kidding you. Not a day goes by in 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.600 my life, and Tippy's in his sixties. Not a day 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.560 goes by in my life where people don't look at 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.480 me and say, hey, you're the guy who picked off 0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.920 three guys one innte Tippy Martinez, how about that. 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.440 Might have had a bad pickoff move, But you know 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.399 Tippy was always tipping pitches too. 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:53.799 You say, all right, well he wasn't tipping to throw 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.120 over the first that's for sure. 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.959 Sure, Yeah, all right. At least in that game. Okay, 0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:05.319 next one, here we go golf slash baseball. As if 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:06.359 we didn't get enough of. 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.880 That today in the start of the show, right well, 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.840 and Kent Mrker on our episode tomorrow is going to 0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.799 talk a lot about golf and Maddox and Glavin and 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.040 Smoltz and everything else. 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:23.759 And it's it's just priceless, priceless stuff. And I have 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:27.160 a story where I played in a charity golf tournament, 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.560 the Davy Johnson Charity Golf Tournament. This was probably twelve 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:34.000 years ago or so, and Justin Verlander was in the 0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:39.600 group behind us. Okay, and I asked him at the turn. 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.280 We're playing a scramble. I asked him at the turn, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.560 how are you guys doing? He said, we're ten under Birdie. 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.959 So you've played scrambles before, Jeff, And he I said, 0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:51.920 what does that mean? He goes, well, when you're in 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:55.919 a scramble, you can't get you can't calculate under par 0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.239 because it's a given you have to be under par 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.000 on every hole. The question is how many eagles are 0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.320 you gonna make? So they were ten under after nine 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:11.840 and they finished twenty two under par. So they made 0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:15.680 all birdies and four eagles. Now, all four guys were 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.680 really good, and Verlander of course was the best of 0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:22.440 the group because he's a great player and absolutely is competitive, 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.520 like this was the biggest deal in the world for 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.439 him that day. We're gonna win this tournament and I'm 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.840 gonna win the long drive contest, which of course he did. Jeff, 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:34.040 We're in the group in front of him, and twice 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:39.000 he hit into our group while we were putting on 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.239 the green and it was a par four. Twice he 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:45.880 drove a par four and I look back at him 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.440 each time, and Justin Verlander, who had just won the 0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:53.080 MVP of the American League and the cy Young is 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:56.080 like raising his hands above his head, look what I 0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.920 just did, because he knew he had probably won the 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.239 long drive. That's just how competitive he is. How competitive 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.879 all those guys are. And Kent Murker will explain the 0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:11.480 pairings and the golfers on the braves during their glory years. 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.080 All right, last one for the Wheel of Kirchhin. Here 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:18.439 we go giving it a spin no hit jinks, which 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.360 is also really good for Kent Murker. Our guest tomorrow 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:26.440 who threw a no hitter and was involved in a 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:28.080 joint no hitter, correct. 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.440 A combined no hitter. Yeah, only only three pictures. I 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.400 believe four pictures have ever been involved in a no 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:39.320 hitter and a combined no hitter. Kevin Millwood, Kent Murker, 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:44.759 Vita Blue, and Mike Witt. Those guys were all all 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:48.640 through a no hitter and were involved in a combined 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:52.000 no hitter. Yes, so, Jeff, I'm not sure I haven't 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.400 no hit jinks. But we were told a great story 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.920 by Steve Sparks a few years ago. I'm going to 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.120 be serious about this. Yeah, when you're a broadcaster, and 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:05.319 I'm not telling any broadcaster, especially play by play guy, 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.279 how to do his job. But when you're when you're 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:12.920 doing a game, I think it is your responsibility to 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:16.480 tell everyone who's listening on the radio what's going on 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.239 in the game. And there is no such thing as 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:22.320 jinxing a guy's no hitter. Do you have? XM radio 0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.759 is the greatest invention in the world as far as 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.440 I'm concerned. I drive all over the all over the 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.200 country in my car, and the best part about it 0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.399 is I can get crystal clear baseball games whenever I want. 0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:35.840 If I tune in and a guy's got a no 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:40.000 hitter going in the seventh inning and the broadcasters don't 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.560 mention it after the inning. Sorry, I don't think they're 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.160 doing their job. Am I being unfair about this? 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:46.600 No? 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.000 I definitely think you owe the audience because I'm not 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:54.640 looking at a box score, right, especially even even on TV, 0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:58.520 I'm just seeing runs, right in ninety nine percent of 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.920 the time, I'm not even seeing hits. Right, you're not 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.879 really following each player, oh for two, oh for three, 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.080 whatever it might be. Yeah, you owe it. I don't 0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.240 think there's a jinx there at all, right. 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:14.160 Right, you are the eyes and the ears of the listener, 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.759 especially on the radio, and you have to tell him 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:19.680 what's going on in the game. If there's a no 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.120 hitter going on in the game, you have to say, 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.440 Mike Witt is through seven innings, he's got a perfect 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:28.880 game here. If that's the case, and I'm driving around, 0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:31.200 I am going to stay on that game because I 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.279 want to hear the end of that no hitter or 0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.480 perfect game. I'm right about this, right. 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:40.160 Yeah, absolutely, Dad, You're absolutely right. That's our wheel of kirkshin. 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:41.839 If you want to add to it, all you got 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.080 to do is hit us up great game or what 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.520 dot com? Scroll down you'll see a thing that says 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.000 talk to Jeff and Tim directly. By that, I mean 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.960 Tim directly because I haven't responded to a message in months, 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:56.160 because that loves it and I love I don't play. 0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.960 If people are going to take time to write to us, 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.879 then I'm going to show the respect and right back 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:05.319 because we get some really really fun stuff, and we 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.600 got something this week. Jeff, I'll tell you about the 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:11.359 Team Tim. Todd Addington wrote to me late last night. 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.520 You got to do the All father Son team for 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.680 Team Tim today. Now, Jeff, as you know, I've done 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:21.440 the All father Son team the last two years, so 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.880 I decided to take a detour and try something else 0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:26.600 because I've already done it two years in a row, 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:29.240 the All father Son team, as Todd mentioned, you know, 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:33.880 the Griffy's, the Bonds, the Boons, the Bells, the Bearras, 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:38.040 all this stuff. So I decided to go another direction 0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:41.160 since we've already done that before, even though Todd came 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.360 up with a great list, so I did. Since this 0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:47.280 is the first day of summer, I did the All 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:52.200 Summer team for Team Tim. Is that a good idea 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.840 or bad idea. Yeah, okay, we are going to start 0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:58.760 with our catcher, Steve Lake. Sometimes you go to the 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.920 lake for the summer, all right. Our first baseman is 0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:06.000 Razor Shines, one of my favorite names of all time, 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:10.000 and years ago the Mets. I hope I got this right. Yes, 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:14.440 the Mets hired Razor Shines to be their third base coach. 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:18.440 And Razor Shines batted like seventy five times in his 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:23.600 major league career and never scored a run, and yet 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.640 he was hired to be the third base coach whose 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.840 job it is to send guys home so they can 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:38.680 score a run. Razor Shines is our first baseman. Jackson 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:43.320 Holiday is our second baseman. O'Neil Cruz used to be 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:47.400 a shortstop is our shortstop because people go on a 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.800 cruise during the summer. I was going to use nap 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.680 leisurewe again, but he's really a second basement on a 0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.400 third baseman, So I went with nap Reyis because summertime 0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:00.080 is a good time to take a nap. Jeff, how 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.440 much do you need a nap right now? And I 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:10.240 could ask you this at any point, to do this, Okay. 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:16.160 The outfield is Champ summers. He's the perfect guy for 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:20.680 our all Summer team. Jerry Sands is one outfielder, Drew 0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:25.640 Waters is another outfielder, and our pitching staff. I'm just 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.960 gonna limit it to six. Could have gone more. Matt Beach, 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:37.240 Sun Wu, Kim Bobby c doc Ellis chan Ho Park 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.760 and of course we end with Sandy Kofax. 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:41.320 Excellent. 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:45.160 How about that? Jack. So that's that's the All Summer team. 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.200 With all due respect to our fathers and sons. We 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.480 talked about them a lot. I've done that list a 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.680 couple of times. This was the All Summer team because 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:58.480 today is the first day of summer. As we tape right, excellent. 0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.000 That a great team him kicking off the summer. It's 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:05.120 baseball season in June and to July. This is my 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:08.280 favorite time. Oh just makes me happy. 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:08.640 Dad. 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.000 I'm glad it could be on with you for an 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:14.440 hour for Father's Day. So special and well. I love you. 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:16.000 I hope you have a great rest of your father's Dad. 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:16.800 I wish we were together. 1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:19.800 Well, I love you too, Jeff, Go take a nap 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.880 like nap rays. Okay, that's the plan. 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.520 Thank you so much for listening and watching, and as always, 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:27.440 thanks for being a part of our family.