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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Cool People who Did Cool stuff.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the month of October. And you know

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Speaker 2: what that means. You probably do did mean spooky month,

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Speaker 2: and I love spooky things. I've never not loved spooky things.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. I was terrified of everything as a child,

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Speaker 2: in particular spooky stories. In fact, all the scary stories

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Speaker 2: that people tell would have done me a disservice because

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Speaker 2: I was a really scared kid. What a great thing

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Speaker 2: to tell. All of you. Really excited about that. Really

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Speaker 2: glad that I can't edit this, because that's not how

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Speaker 2: podcasting works. You just say things and then they go

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Speaker 2: out and there's no way to edit them down. This

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Speaker 2: is a rewind episode, which means it's an episode that's

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Speaker 2: already been aired. So if you're someone who's already listened

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Speaker 2: to the deep recesses of cool People who Did cool stuff,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing new for you, I'm sorry to say. But

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Speaker 2: you know what, more realistically, you'll like it this time

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Speaker 2: too if you liked it then. And also more realistically,

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard it because this week I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: Babba Ya Go, And you too can become the kind

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Speaker 2: of pedant who says Babba yaga instead of Babba yaga,

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Speaker 2: and everyone will love you. Everyone loves a pedant, That's

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Speaker 2: what people always say. Her house is on chicken legs

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Speaker 2: and she rides around in a mortar propelled by a pestle,

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Speaker 2: and yet she's terrifying. It's Baba y go. Okay, here's

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Speaker 2: the episode. Hello and welcome to the Cool People Who

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Speaker 2: Did Cool Stuff. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and each

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Speaker 2: week I dig into history and find all the radiest

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Speaker 2: stories of the radest people who did shit like overthrow

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Speaker 2: governments and smash patriarchy and each children. Most week, this

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Speaker 2: week's is Halloween. Well, actually last week is Halloween. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of confusing because next week is Halloween for us,

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Speaker 2: but last week is Halloween for you. Every day is Halloween.

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Speaker 2: My guest today is the one and only Jamie Loftus.

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Speaker 1: Jamie, how are you hi? Oh? I'm so tired, but

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Speaker 1: I'm great and I'm ready for Halloween. Do you have

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Speaker 1: Halloween plans? Margaret?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm well, I'm I'm going to go be alone

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Speaker 2: in the woods on Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I said. That that counts as plans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and totally won't be spooked out at all?

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Speaker 2: What are your Halloween plans?

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Speaker 1: My Halloween? Because Halloween's on a Monday this year, which

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Speaker 1: is troubling. So I have like a Halloween part time

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Speaker 1: job that's occupying a lot of my time. But on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to see Danny Elfman in concert, which I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited. Holy shit, the Pumpkin King. I guess that

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Speaker 1: he does like an annual Halloween show at the Hollywood Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know about it before this year, but I'm going, Baby,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sophie Halloween plans. Our producer is the one and

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Speaker 2: only Sophie Lichtterman. Sophie, how are you? What are your

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Speaker 2: Halloween plans?

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Speaker 3: To dress my dog in as many costumes as possible,

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Speaker 3: and that I hope that kids don't. I'm gonna put

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Speaker 3: a giant bowl of candy in front of my house

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Speaker 3: because I would like them to have the candy, but

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Speaker 3: I don't want to interact. Hmm, But I hope they

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Speaker 3: don't steal my bowl.

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Speaker 1: They prefer it that way too, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: we all do.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna go do some spooky shit.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, wait, are you wearing a costume.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, didn't get that far on the planning,

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Speaker 1: I like it. Outfit choice not confirmed. I have one

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Speaker 1: more question, which is what size candy bars are you rocking?

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Speaker 1: I feel like there should be a mid size between

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what I got to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I feel like they don't. They're definitely not full sized Goldilocks.

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Speaker 3: They're definitely not full size. Let's I got Goldilocks exactly,

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Speaker 3: but and and I feel like the pack I got,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is like a very good like

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Speaker 3: there's variety, which I appreciate. But yeah, I hope they

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Speaker 3: I hope that one kid doesn't ruin it for everyone

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Speaker 3: electrified the bull What if I solid choice, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Not enough to kill because that's probably illegal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more more important, like if they steal the bowl, okay, fine, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I get it, it's you needed the ball. But if

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Speaker 3: that will upset me, and Anderson will fully nark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that will happen is the word you meant

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Speaker 3: That I know, I feel like it will, which would

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Speaker 3: saw it has been, I saw it happen, and I

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Speaker 3: it's bought.

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Speaker 1: No, it's And then you.

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Speaker 3: Go up there and you're like, oh my god, that's

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Speaker 2: That put a bull you put.

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Speaker 3: Your hand in the bolt. No candy, and then you're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: You should hide in the bushes and then shout it's

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Speaker 2: the tragedy of the commons. Don't stop them and don't

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Speaker 2: explain what the tragedy of the commons is, but maybe

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Speaker 2: actually then follow them down the street and uh, tell

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Speaker 2: the story about the Nobel Prize winning scientist who disproved

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Speaker 2: the concept of the tragedy the commons, and just tell

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Speaker 2: the like eight year old this, and I promise you

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Speaker 2: they'll never do it again. It's justice through pedantry, which

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Speaker 2: is the name of the podcast that you're listening to.

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Speaker 2: It is not justice through pedantry. Today, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: explain the difference between hanged and hung h and then

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Speaker 2: judge everyone who get No, I'm not gonna do that, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I I don't know what today's

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just gonna I'm gonna plow ahead with my script,

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Speaker 2: even though I've ruined some of the jokes. Jamie, have

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Speaker 2: you ever heard of Halloween?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't a story about Halloween. This isn't enough

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Speaker 2: about Hellleween.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but so we were just catching up.

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Speaker 2: But it's a special Halloween episode nonetheless, because instead of

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Speaker 2: talking about a real person today, I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about a fake person, or in my head, a more

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Speaker 2: real than real person, an archetype, a god to some.

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Speaker 2: Because it's Folklore Week on cool people who did cool stuff,

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Speaker 2: and this inaugural mm hmm, this this inaugural folklore Week.

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Speaker 2: There's only one lady who fits the bill besides Jamie Loftus.

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Speaker 2: Of course, sometimes this person helps people, Sometimes she eats people.

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Speaker 2: She lives in the woods, and she hangs out with geese.

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Speaker 2: She scoots around the forest in an iron mortar, pushing

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Speaker 2: chicken legs because she is the one and only Baba

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Speaker 1: Oh I feel it's my lucky day. Wow, this is thrilling.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know her house was on chicken legs. That's

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Speaker 1: very good, very creative. That's very scary.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's actually it's one of the most unique

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Speaker 2: parts about the Baba Yaga mythology is the like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the chicken like in many ways. We'll talk about this later,

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Speaker 2: but like in many ways, like she's like a witch, right,

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Speaker 2: and then like, but her house is on chicken legs,

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Speaker 2: and she like sits in a mortar like mortar and pestle, right,

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Speaker 2: you know the thing you grind up. You might not this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. Well in this way case, it sits

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Speaker 1: That's so that sounds both first of all awesome but

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Speaker 2: Loud Yeah, that's true. You could probably hear Bobby Yagah coming. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well she she sweeps away the tracks of a broom

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Speaker 2: as she goes, like to clear it so you can

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Speaker 1: Wow, very tree falls in the woods, except not really

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Speaker 2: If Bobby a Goad moves through the woods and no

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Speaker 1: Then she probably knocked down that tree she ruins around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's her fucking forest. I think the best

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Speaker 2: tell you a folk tale. And so I haven't done

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Speaker 1: I confuse that when I went to your when I

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Speaker 1: went to your live event, you're not supposed to interrupt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the guests at every event, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: Jamie loftus I said after Jamie walked through the background

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Speaker 2: in a hot dog costume. This is a nineteen oh

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Speaker 2: seven translation of a story called Vasilisa the Beauty or

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Speaker 2: Vasalisa the Beautiful or whatever, but this translation translated the

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Speaker 2: title is Vasilisa the Beauty. Once in a certain country

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Speaker 2: Vasilisa the Beauty when her mother died. I mean, everyone

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Speaker 2: says everyone called her Vasilisa the beauty, but obviously some

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Speaker 2: people called her Vasalisa the beautiful, so okay, and some

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Speaker 2: people of Beslisa the fair.

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Speaker 1: Vasliza. I mean, I appreciate that that's the only thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's let's be clear. She's hot.

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Speaker 1: She's fucking hot.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about a girl slash woman. Is there

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Speaker 1: Well? No, see, that's that's the thing. I it's I

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Speaker 1: or why would I continue listening to the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, totally flip my.

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Speaker 1: Table and leap.

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Speaker 2: And absolutely, yeah, don't worry. This whole story is absolutely

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Speaker 2: there's no more problems. No, no, uh, anyway, amazing. So

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Speaker 2: she's hot. Yeah, and she's eight so oh no, but

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Speaker 2: but she does grow up.

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Speaker 2: When her mother died, the little girl was eight years old.

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Speaker 2: On her deathbed, she called her young daughter to her,

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Speaker 2: took out from under the bedclothes a doll, gave it

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Speaker 2: fulfill my last words. I am dying, and leave you

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Speaker 2: with a mother's blessing. This doll. Keep it always with you,

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Speaker 2: and show it to no one, And whenever misfortune happens

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Speaker 2: The merchant, after his wife's death, mourned as long as

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Speaker 2: was reasonable, which I don't know how long is reasonable. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fun, that sounds like a fun. There are certain phrases

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Speaker 1: Was she not going outside prior to this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's fair. Vasilisa's doll helped her. Had

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Speaker 1: This is like something that I would do with my

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Speaker 1: I would have with my doll logan, Okay, have you

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Speaker 2: Where is this or anywhere?

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Speaker 3: I think Margaret would either love or hate it, no

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm could have on the fence on how

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I can't imagine drinking anything else in front

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is a kid, it would be wrong.

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Speaker 1: canonically fourteen? Yes, but a lot of fourteen year olds sneap,

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Speaker 2: board with Vasilisa. The doll would eat a little and

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Speaker 1: No, Logan has never advised me on my skincare routine

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Speaker 2: The skincare yer. This is the second time skincare has

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Speaker 2: As soon as she had sent the suitors away, she

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Speaker 1: Love her, loving her already, I'm imagining the uh the

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Speaker 2: Having settled into her new home, the merchant's wife kept

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Speaker 2: Oh help, yeah, yeah, no no, so a candle guttering

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Speaker 2: You should argue with this and translator, because I think

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Speaker 2: Ask the girls. There is not a light in the

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Speaker 2: go to the Babba Yaga after a light. I have

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Speaker 2: all the light I want from my bosom pin, said

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Speaker 2: I have enough light for my knitting needles. Alisa must

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Speaker 2: listen to my tale of woe. They are sending me

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Speaker 2: I wasn't okay, go whither they send you. Only keep

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a metaphor. And that's going to be

433
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: a metaphor for something.

434
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: What what have you did? You beat ahead of you?

435
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: You already knew this story.

436
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: Okay, This, this damn doll is cracking me up. This

437
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: doll goes back and forth between being like an employee

438
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: of Vasilisi's and then randomly acting like the Godfather, like

439
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: I'm picturing the doll with like cutting a steak, being like,

440
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, bringing in a witch's house. We're

441
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna take care of this.

442
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: No, Like, the doll is absolutely the uninterrogated character in

443
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: this Like all of the other characters have like these

444
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: like explanations and like Bobby ya guy is like this

445
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: crazy witch, but nothing about the fucking doll that is like,

446
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: this doll is.

447
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Very versatile in the roles they can fill in the

448
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: story because it's like, I love the doll, and I

449
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: am picturing like kind of a Danny DeVito voice coming

450
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: out of coming out of a doll to take care

451
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: of the situation.

452
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just I think the doll represents financial privilege,

453
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure, because you can just like your

454
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: mom died leave to you with this blessing where you

455
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: don't have to do any work and you don't have

456
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: to worry about anything because anytime you're worried, you just

457
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: fall back on it.

458
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: Stand inside and be hot. Yeah that's the moral.

459
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, full morals are not great. Okay. She walked

460
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: farther and another horseman galloped past. He was red, his

461
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: clothing was red, and he rode a red horse, the

462
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: sun began to rise. Vasilisa walked all night and day,

463
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: and only toward the next evening did she reach the

464
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: clearing where stood the Baba Yaga's hut. The fence around

465
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: the hut was made of men's bones, and the posts

466
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: were decorated with human skulls instead of door posts where

467
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: men's leg bones. Instead of shutters were arms. Instead of

468
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: a lock, was a mouth with sharp teeth.

469
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting the idea. Yeah, I would love if this

470
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: description went on for ten pages. Like instead of a

471
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: door knob.

472
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: There there was a little There is a little vial

473
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: of hair instead of a Yeah, there is a fingernail

474
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: instead of one of those things that goes on the window.

475
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. The doorbell was just a guy who was like,

476
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: you can hit me with a stick.

477
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: Oh, yell, you have to spank someone with a stick

478
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: or she won't come to the door.

479
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

480
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: And actually, apparently in the original before this translation, they

481
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: then talked about the chicken legs, but the translator was like, oh,

482
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: I don't know, that seems complicated, and it was like

483
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: ruining his vibe.

484
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Wow, this translator, I really have some because like that's

485
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: the part. Yeah, it's a big it's a fascinating Yeah,

486
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: that's very scary.

487
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vassi Lisa was benumbed with terror and which obviously

488
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense unless it's the chicken legs, so okay.

489
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: But Vasilisa was benumbed with terror and stood as if

490
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: rooted to the spot. Suddenly another horseman came riding along.

491
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: He was black, His clothing was black, and he rode

492
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: a black horse. He galloped up to the Baba Yaga's

493
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: gates and disappeared as if he had sunk through the earth.

494
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Night had come, but the darkness did not last long.

495
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: In the skulls on the fence, eyes gleamed, and it

496
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: was as light as noon all over the clearing. Vasilissa

497
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: shook with terror, but not knowing where to run, she

498
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: remained where she was. Soon a terrible noise was heard

499
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: in the forest. The trees trembled and the dry leaves rustled.

500
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: It was the Baba Yaga coming. She stormed along in

501
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: a mortar. She whipped it up with her pestle, and

502
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: she swept away the tracks with her besom besom which

503
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: I looked it up. It's a It just means an

504
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: old witch's broom like it's a broom Okay, yeah cool?

505
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: Wait, new word for bessum b b M.

506
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how to pronounce it. I probably should

507
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: have looked it up.

508
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm into it.

509
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: She came up to the gates, paused and sniffing all around, cried,

510
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: fo fo fo, I smell Russian breath? Who is here?

511
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: Vasilisa approached me. Vasilisa approached the old dame with fear

512
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: and trembling and bowing low, said it is I Granny,

513
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: my stepmother's daughter, sent me to you to get some

514
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: fire because there's like nowhere else in town. She could

515
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: have gotten fire with two days walk. But you know whatever.

516
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm imagining like be Arthur, Like I'm trying to I'm

517
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: trying to get a visual on Baba Yaga. But who

518
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: do I want to hear storm out and say I

519
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: smell Russian blood? Be Arthur? I think?

520
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, who's b Arthur. I'm just gonna admit that

521
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't.

522
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Ah, she's the tall golden girl Margaret.

523
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, yep, yeah that would rule way.

524
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: It works for me. It works for me.

525
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, exclaimed Baba Yaga. That is a good actor. No, good,

526
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: explained Baba Yaga. I know them, live on and do

527
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: some work for me and then I will give you

528
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: some fire. But if you do not do it, then

529
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: I will eat you up. She turned to the gates

530
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: and cried, hey, my strong fence, give way, open my

531
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: high gates open. The gates opened, and the Bobby Aga

532
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: went in, and Vasilissa followed her, and then all was

533
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: closed tight again. As soon as she entered the room,

534
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: the Bobby Aga stretched herself out and said to Vasilissa,

535
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: bring me here. What is on the stove? I want

536
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: to eat? And what do you think, Jamie Loftus, that

537
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: there was to eat at? Which is hut hmm?

538
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: Well, I could imagine some homemade stuff, but wouldn't it

539
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: be better if there were, like maybe some sponsored products.

540
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that. I was thinking, what is

541
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: better for Vasilisa and Bobbyaga and for you the listener

542
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: than a hearty stew made of potatoes sponsor of the show. Okay,

543
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: the concept of potatoes.

544
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: You're sponsored by Hardy Zoo made of potatoes.

545
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: We are, we are.

546
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: But I for sure thought one Jamie Loftus was going

547
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: to come out and say hot dogs.

548
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Look, I mean if there's good. And if there's anything

549
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: that is more likely to have the flesh of question

550
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: mark in it, is it not the classic dish the

551
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: hot dog? The rumors are not baseless, all right, a

552
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: hot dog horror story. God, it's too late, it's almost

553
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Halloween already. But a witch who blends children into hot dogs.

554
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh it's exciting. No one take that idea. That's my idea.

555
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: Right now, change this sentence to bring me here? What

556
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: is on the stove? I want to eat those hot dogs?

557
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Never mind who is in them, said the Bobby of God.

558
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: And you know what else was in them was all

559
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: of the other products and sponsors of this podcast, like

560
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: these ones. And we are back and Vasilissa laid it

561
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: a splinter at the skull's eye on the fence and

562
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: began to take down the food from the stove and

563
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: give it to Bobby Yaka. There was enough hot dogs

564
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: for ten men. From the cellar. She brought bread and meat,

565
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: obviously long meat and a long bread.

566
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Tube in a natural casing. Yeah, yeah, beer and snap.

567
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's I think I think she I'm trying

568
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: to think of, like, what is a villainous hot dog?

569
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but she's like, I feel like she would

570
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: know what she was doing. She would be it would

571
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: be grilled, it would be natural casing, like she'd be

572
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: eating good hot dogs. She's not boiling this shit, that's

573
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: for sure.

574
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: What about those the really old the like twenty years

575
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: ago vegan hot dog, the tofu dogs. I feel like

576
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: that's the most villainous hot dog.

577
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I can imagine the Yeah that just like falls apart

578
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: in your hands, and you're supposed to be like, thank you, Yeah,

579
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: totally yeah.

580
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: The old Dame ate and drank, leaving for Vesslisa only

581
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: a bit of soup, a crust of bread, and a

582
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: morsel of roast pig, not even a hot dog. Then

583
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: the Babba Yaga lay down to sleep, saying, when morning comes,

584
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: I am going out, keep your eyes open. Clean the court,

585
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: sweep the hut, get the dinner, prepare the bedclothes. Then

586
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: go into the corn bin, take forty bushels of wheat

587
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: and clean it a fennel. Have all of this completely done,

588
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: or I will eat you up. After giving this command,

589
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: the Babba Yaga began to snore Vasilissa, but the old

590
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: Dame's leavings before the doll burst into tears and said,

591
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: now eat little doll and listen to my tale of woe.

592
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: The Babba Yaga has given me such a heavy task

593
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: to perform, and she threatens to eat me up if

594
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: it is not all accomplished. Help me privilege, the doll replied,

595
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: fear not, Vasilisa, eat your supper, say your prayers, and

596
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: go to sleep. Morning is wiser than the evening, which

597
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: is actually good advice, that is a actual good moral,

598
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: that is true.

599
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like it's pulled from the same

600
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: logic of like, don't go to bed angry, don't make

601
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: any big decisions late at night. Yeah, but this is

602
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: like the dolls in Godfather mode again.

603
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. Well that's sitting there with the tiny

604
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: fork and spoon eating.

605
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: The yeah, cutting up, yeah, cutting up a hot dog.

606
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: It's taking a lot of effort, but they're so confident

607
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: that you're like, ah, she'll get it. Yeah, it's fine.

608
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: And then it starts eating it, like like when a

609
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings villain is like eating really gross

610
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: and sickly at a feast and like it's a a

611
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: representation wowed.

612
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then everyone's like, I have musophonia.

613
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Please Vasilisa did so. She awoke rather early, but the

614
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: babbia Ga was up before her and was looking out

615
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: the window. The eyes and the skulls were growing dim,

616
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: and now the white horseman galloped by, and it became

617
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: quite bright. The Bobbiyaga went outdoors whistled, and before her

618
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: appeared her mortar and pestle and bassoom. The red horseman

619
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: flashed by, and the sun came up. The Babiyaga got

620
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: into her mortar and started off. She spurred it on

621
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: with the pestle and swept away the traces with herme.

622
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Vasilisa was left alone, and she began to investigate the

623
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: bobby AGA's house. She was amazed at the abundance of everything,

624
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: and she could not make up her mind which task

625
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: she would take hold of first. But she soon discovered

626
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: that her work was done for her already. The doll

627
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: was just separating out from the wheat the last grains

628
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: of the fennel. Oh you are my dear deliver, exclaimed Vasilisa.

629
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: You have saved me from misfortune. All that is left

630
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: for you to do is to get dinner, replied the doll,

631
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: climbing into Vasilisa's pocket. Get it and God be with you.

632
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: But now take a good rest for your health.

633
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Vasilisa is going to get hit with the invoice of

634
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: a lifetime from this doll. Yeah, she's thinking, this is

635
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: like some sort of long term internship. This doll is

636
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: going to come back for her money.

637
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: This is a fiet okay. Toward evening, Vasilisa left the

638
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: table and waited for the babbi Aga. It began to

639
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: grow dark. The black horseman galloped by the gates. Then

640
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: the eyes and the skulls began to gleam, The trees trembled,

641
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: the leaves rustled. Up came the baba Yaga. Vasilissa met her.

642
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: Is your work all done? Asked the hag. You can

643
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: see for yourself, granny, replied Vasilisa. The Babbiyaga looked all

644
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: around and became very angry, because there was nothing to

645
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: be angry about. We've all been there.

646
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah wow hashtag relatable content from the Babiyaga.

647
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, she said, sullenly. Then she cried, my

648
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: faithful servants, my bosom friends, grind my wheat for me.

649
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: Instantly appeared three pairs of hands seized the wheat and

650
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: carried it out of sight. The witch ate her supper,

651
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: laid down to sleep, and gave again Besilissa her orders tomorrow.

652
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Do the same as you did today, But above all,

653
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: take from the corn crib the poppy and clean it

654
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: of all dirt to the last seed. You'll cause trouble

655
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: for someone if the least bit of earth is mixed

656
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: with the poppy. Then she turned her face to the

657
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: wall and began to snore. As before, Vasilisa gave her

658
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: doll something to eat. The doll ate it and told

659
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: her what she had told her the night before. Pray

660
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: to God and go to sleep. Morning is wiser than evening.

661
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: All shall be done, dear little Vasilisa. In the morning,

662
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: baby Aga again flew away in her mortar, and Vasilisa

663
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: and the doll quickly accomplished the work that was to

664
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: be done. In the evening, the old hag came home,

665
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: inspected everything, and cried out, my faithful servants, my bosom friends,

666
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: make some oil out of this poppy. Three pairs of

667
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: hands appeared, seized the poppy, and carried it out of sight.

668
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: The baby Aga sat down to supper, and while she ate,

669
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: Vasilisa stood by in silence. Why don't you have something

670
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: to say to me, asked the witch. You stand there

671
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: like one tongue tied. I did not dare to, said Vasilisa,

672
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: But if you will allow me, I should like to

673
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: ask you something. Ask away. Only remember not every question

674
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: leads to good. If you come to know too much,

675
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: you will quickly grow old.

676
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: Ooh scary ah, scary message. Also, why has the Vasilisa

677
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: tried to poison her yet? Vasilisa is just.

678
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, ish, well, we'll actually talk about it.

679
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Not that I want the Babiyaga to get hurt, because

680
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: she sounds incredible. She sounds like a legend and like

681
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: she wouldn't fall for it.

682
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: I know, the like why Vasilisa is a goody two shoes.

683
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: We'll actually end up talking about Okay, cool, I only

684
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about what I saw Grannie. As

685
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: I was coming to you, I was overtaken by a

686
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: white horseman on a white horse and white clothes. Who

687
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: is he? That is my bright day? Said the Babiaga.

688
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: Then I was overtaken by another horseman on a red horse.

689
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: He was red and in red clothes. Who is he?

690
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: That is my red son? Replied the Babiaga, and what

691
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: was the meaning of the black horseman who overtook me

692
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: just at your gates? Grannie, that was my black knight.

693
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: All are my faithful servants. Vasilisa remembered the three pairs

694
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: of hands, but said nothing more. Why don't you ask

695
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: something more, demanded the Babbiaga. I am afraid of what

696
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: you said might happen to me. If one comes to

697
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: know too much, one grows old. It is good, said

698
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: the babbia Ga, that you should only ask about what

699
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: you have seen out of doors and not what you

700
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: have seen in the house. I do not like people

701
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: to tell tales about me out of school, and I

702
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: eat up those who are too inquisitive. And now I'm

703
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: going to put a question to you. How did you

704
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: succeed in doing the work which I gave you to do? Wow,

705
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: my mother's blessings helped me.

706
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Talk shitn't end up in a hot dog?

707
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: That is I mean, that's your slogan. You have that

708
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: back patch on your vest that this has talk shit

709
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: end up in a hot If you.

710
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Talk about what you see in my house, you can

711
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: end up in a hot dog.

712
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that? Be gone for me? You daughter

713
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: with the blessing I don't want people who have been blessed,

714
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: and she dragged Vasilisa from the room and pushed her

715
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: out of the gates. Then she took down from the

716
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: fence one of the skulls with the lighted eyes, put

717
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: it on a stick and gave it to her, saying,

718
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: here is the light for your stepsisters. Take it. That

719
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: is what they sent you here for. Vassilisa hastened home

720
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: on the run by the light of the skull, and

721
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: it did not go out till the next morning. At last,

722
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: toward the evening on the second day, she reached her home.

723
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: As she went through the gates, she was going to

724
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: throw the skull away. Why of course, she said to herself,

725
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: they won't need the light now. But suddenly she heard

726
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: a quiet voice from the skull saying, don't throw me away,

727
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: take me to your step mother. Okay, yeah, uhuh. She

728
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: looked up at her stepmother's house, and, not seeing a

729
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: light in any window, she resolved to go in with

730
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: the skull. The first persons she met spoke kindly to

731
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: her and told her that since she had been away

732
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: there had been no light in the house. They couldn't

733
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: make anything burn, and the fire which they tried to

734
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: bring from the neighbors went out the moment it was

735
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: brought into the house. Perhaps your light will keep, said

736
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: the stepmother. They carried the skull into the house. Then

737
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: the eyes gazed so steadily at the stepmother and the

738
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: daughters that it burnt them. They tried to hide, but

739
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: wherever they went the eyes always followed them. In the morning,

740
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: they were burnt to ashes. But it did not touch Vasilisa.

741
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Wow, because she she didn't do shit, and she minded

742
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: her own business like a good girl.

743
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're starting to get you're starting to catch on.

744
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: This is not Bobby a gospel that she has used

745
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: this way.

746
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: No, Bobbi, you got blameless. Yeah, did nothing wrong? Yeah,

747
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Bobby your God did nothing wrong? Is a shirt out?

748
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah totally. Then Vasilissa buried the skull in the ground,

749
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: locked the house up, and went into the city and

750
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: asked for shelter with an old woman with whom she

751
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: had no relations, or who had no relations. She said

752
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: to the old woman, it is tiresome for me to

753
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: have nothing to do. Grannie, come buy me the very

754
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: best flax and I will spin it for you. Okay. Yeah,

755
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: that was like more evidence.

756
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: That she's acting so weirday, Why is she acting so weird?

757
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: The three like, I know she didn't like her relatives

758
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: and they were cruel to her, but they turned to

759
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: ash and she's like, better bury this skull and go

760
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: find someone to adopt me. Like what is wrong with her?

761
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: All right?

762
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: But but hear me out. If I'm staying with some

763
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: people and then I murder the shit out of them

764
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: by accident, I might bury it and then move to

765
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: a different city.

766
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I guess. So, I guess I'm just not expecting this

767
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: from Vasilissa, who has not done really much active things

768
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: so far.

769
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Was pretty, That's true.

770
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: She was pretty and she never got a sunburn, which

771
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: this story is weirdly fixated on sunburns and just burns

772
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: in general.

773
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah. The woman brought some of the very

774
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: best flacks and Vasilisa sat down to her task. The

775
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: work fairly glowed under her hands, and the thread that

776
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: she made came out as smooth and as even as

777
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: her hair. She made a lot of thread, the finest

778
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: that was ever seen. No one could equal it. Vasilisa

779
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: had gone to ask her doll's advice, and the doll

780
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: had said, bring me an old comb, in an old shuttle,

781
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: even a curry comb. I will do it for you.

782
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: So Vasilisa got her all that was asked for and

783
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: went to bed, and the doll during the day made

784
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: a splendid loom. Toward the end of the winter, the

785
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: linen was all spun and it was so fine that

786
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: one could pass it through the eye of a needle

787
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: like thread. In the spring, they bleached the linen and

788
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Vasilisa said to the old woman, Granny, take this linen

789
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: and get some money for it. The old dame looked

790
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: at the stuff and exclaimed, no, my dear child, no

791
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: one except the Tsar should wear such linen. I will

792
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: take it to court.

793
00:41:50,200 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: What this is a very eccentric area. That's like. Okay, imagine,

794
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: if you will, Mary, you present me with a scarf

795
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: that you've knitted, and I retort by saying, I couldn't

796
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: possibly wear this scarf. We've got to bring this scarf

797
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: to the White House. We've got to Joe Biden needs

798
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: this scarf. I need Joe Biden wearing this scarf today

799
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: and I will personally bring what a wild reaction. Okay, Okay,

800
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm on board.

801
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: It's a scarf that my don't here that Taylor the

802
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: American doll. What's wait, what's your Tyler? Oh, Logan, Logan,

803
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: Logan and Tyler are the same in my head.

804
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Logan Logan, same energy. Sorry, sorry, sorry to

805
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: all the Logans and Tyler's out there. Yeah, yeah, okay,

806
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: So we're bringing we're bringing the dolls scarf to the

807
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Joe Biden of the area.

808
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: Interesting and what else should we bring to this our's court?

809
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you're supposed to bring certain offerings, and

810
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: a lot of them I think should be sponsored. Good

811
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: then maybe even services.

812
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well then let's uh, let's let's listen and

813
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: then pick through and pick our favorite, and we are back.

814
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: And none of those ads are good enough for Joe Biden.

815
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow. If there's one thing I know about Margaret Kiljoy,

816
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: it's that she wants what's best for Joe. I have

817
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: nothing that I can say, always threading.

818
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: About Yeah, much like I feel about the Czar. So

819
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: she went to the Tsar's palace and kept marching up

820
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: and down in front of the windows. The Czar saw

821
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: her and asked, what do you want, old Dame. Your majesty,

822
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: she replied, I have brought you some wonderful cloth. I

823
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: do not want to show it to anyone except yourself.

824
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: This doesn't turn into a murder of the czar thing,

825
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: which is really confusing to me.

826
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a bummer. I was sort of

827
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: hoping that Bobby Yeagau would have it in for the Czar. Yeah,

828
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: something like, yeah, yeah, we should. It's not where it's

829
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: going though.

830
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: No, although like I'm like, I probably shouldn't rewrite it

831
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: on the flat.

832
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: Okay, we could punch this up. He really, I think.

833
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: We're here, we'll workshop this.

834
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

835
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: The Czar commanded that it be brought before him, and

836
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: when he saw the linen, he was dumbfounded. Why did

837
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: you think you should know? What will you take for this?

838
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: He asked? It will not cost you anythings, our father,

839
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: I have brought it for you as a gift. The

840
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: Czar thanked her and sent her off heirdo with handsome presence. Yeah,

841
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: it's almost like the concept of folklore is to reinforce

842
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: values that the society wants people to have.

843
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: But how is bring the czar bring the all? Right? Whatever? Fine?

844
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: From that linen. They started to make the czar some shirts.

845
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: They cut them out, but they could not find a

846
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: seamstress anywhere to make them. They searched long, and at

847
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: last the Tsar summoned the old Dame and said to her,

848
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: you are clever enough to spin and weave this cloth,

849
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: you must be clever enough to make some shirts out

850
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: of it. Sovereign, it was not I who spun and

851
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: wove this cloth, said the old Dame. It is the

852
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: work of my adopted daughter. Well let her make them,

853
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: he said. The woman went home and told Vasilisa all

854
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: about this I knew, said Vasilisa, that this work of

855
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: my hands would not suit them. She shut herself in

856
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: her room and took hold of the work. She sewed steadily,

857
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: without once letting it out of her hands, and soon

858
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: a dozen shirts were ready. The Dame took the shirts

859
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: to the Tsar, and Vasilisa washed her face and hands,

860
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: combed her hair, dressed herself, and sat down at the window,

861
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: waiting to see what would happen. Presently, one of the

862
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: Tsar's servants came into the old dame's yard and said,

863
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: our sovereign Czar wishes to see the clever artist who

864
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: has made him the shirts, and to reward him from

865
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: his own hands, Vasilissa and went and showed herself before

866
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: the eyes of the Tzar. When he saw the fair

867
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: young girl, who there's been no evidence that this character

868
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: has grown old. Just be clear.

869
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm very curious. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you for clearing

870
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah.

871
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: When he saw the fair young girl, he fell passionately

872
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: in love with her. No, he exclaimed, I will never

873
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: part with you. No, you shall be my wife. So

874
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: the Tsar Tooksila, I hate this town. Yeah, no fun

875
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: this place.

876
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: This place is so stressful. Yeah, but it feels like

877
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Yaga is like the Babbyaga is the only person

878
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: who is reacting to anything with the proper intensity.

879
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

880
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, So the Tsar took Vasilisa by her white

881
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: hands and caused her to sit by his side. Caused

882
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: her to sit by.

883
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: His side cause, oh this is so yeah, this translation

884
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: is freaking me out. Yeah, caused her. I'm imagining a

885
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: suplex like.

886
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what is marriage in a traditional nineteen like

887
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: back in the day anyway.

888
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: But causing you to sit by someone else's said, I

889
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: guess it's true. It implies lack of choice.

890
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they celebrated a great wedding Vasilissa's father

891
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: soon afterwards returned home. He is not like, she's like

892
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: gone off and got herself adopted by He was delighted

893
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: with her good fortune.

894
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, and it was he like, where is

895
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: my wife at? Where my stepp done? Why?

896
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: Why would we care about that?

897
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: You're right, his daughter has been caused to marry the czar,

898
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, fuck his wife.

899
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was delighted with her good fortune, and from

900
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: that time forth he lived at his daughter's. Vasilisa took

901
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: the old dame also to be with her, but the

902
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: doll she kept in her pocket to the very end

903
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: of her days.

904
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: The end, the end. This story is confusing. I have

905
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go full like worst kind of YouTuber mode

906
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: and be like all the plot holes in the Babba

907
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: Yagas story. Interesting, let's get into it. Looks like someone

908
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: some writers didn't get the message that a story is

909
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: supposed to have a beginning, of middle, and an end. Jamie,

910
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: you're triggering me. I do not like this.

911
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Geez wait, Jamie, where did you get that hat? What

912
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: do you call that type of hat? Is that a

913
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: trophy or a fedora?

914
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Oh well, he lady, it's a fedora. And in this

915
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: essay I will be talking about the implications of the

916
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: Babba Yaga and why Vasilisa did nothing wrong. I oh

917
00:48:50,800 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: my god, what I do? That said? That said a

918
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: lot of questions about the Bobby a God doesn't even

919
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: get to come back. That's my that's my sadness. She disappears.

920
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: So one of the things about the stories about Babbia

921
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: Go is bobbya God is always a side character. Bobby

922
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: a guy is okay, Sometimes Babbia guys like the main villain, right,

923
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: and this one babbya Go's barely even a villain. But

924
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Babbia guys always a thing that people are tested against

925
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: rather than like really even a person in a lot

926
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: of ways.

927
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: So so I guess like in the internal logic of

928
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: this story, like Vasilisa navigating and surviving the Babba Yaga

929
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: situation is just like what she needs to get her

930
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: to go get Vanquish, to get as our husband. Yeah, huh, Margaret,

931
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: I have a question, which is what is the moral

932
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: of this story?

933
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: So the moral of the story, as far as I

934
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: can tell, the moral of a lot of Babbiaga stories

935
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: is listen to your mother and don't trust the bad mother,

936
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: which is either the step mother or the wicked witch

937
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: in the woods. Babia Ga like often is the stand

938
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: in for like bad mom is like as the evil

939
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: old woman figure. And so basically there's different like lessons.

940
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: It's who gets thrown against Bobby a Ga like leads

941
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: to different things. And if you're a young girl, then

942
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: being obedient is the way to deal with Bobby a Ga.

943
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 2: And I think if you're a grown ass man, being

944
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 2: looking for a lady is a good way to interact

945
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: with Bobby a GAK. And yeah, I don't know. It's

946
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: basically this like fear of the woods, like don't go

947
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: into the dark woods or the witch will eat you.

948
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: But if you're good and obedient, you will survive that experience.

949
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: And what is a scarier thing in this era then

950
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: an older woman living by herself and seeming to have

951
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: a nice time. Yeah yeah, yeah, terrifying.

952
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: So I'm going to talk a little bit. We're gonna

953
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: talk about like kind of who Babby Yaga is today

954
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: and then when we come back Wednesday, we'll talk more

955
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: about what it all means and there'll be another story.

956
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: Cool, there's another story, Okay because this one. Sorry, I

957
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm putting my Fedora on again. What is

958
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: the So is the doll kind of this like personification

959
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: of good good mommy. And then Babba.

960
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: Yaga is that's maybe the most famous story about Babi Yaga,

961
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: and it's the one I run across the most, partly

962
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: because there's this really beautiful art from the nineteen hundred

963
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: edition of us A Lisa. The Beautiful that is like

964
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: metal bands use it as their T shirts. I have

965
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: a Ragana shirt, which is a really sick metal band.

966
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: It's a do metal band and they use specially. So

967
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: the Beautiful is their art and stuff. But probably for

968
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: other reasons.

969
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: Is a popular character that's interesting, No.

970
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's like I think it's because

971
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: the art. Honestly, there's like this, like you know, Russian

972
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: girl walking through the woods with a skull gleaming light

973
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: on a stick. It's pretty fucking metal, you know.

974
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see that shirt at the merch booth.

975
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: I take out my.

976
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah, that's right. Never mind, all right.

977
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: And so, so she's the the scary old crone that

978
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: lives in the woods and in some stories she helps,

979
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: some stories she hurts, but and the ones which she helps.

980
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: She always has the capacity to do great violence. She's

981
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: never like, hey, little lost friend, here you go. And

982
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: it's as I was talking about earlier, but now I'm

983
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: just reading the script anyway, it's the clever girls, the

984
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: ones who do as they're told, who survive their encounters

985
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: with Bobby A gom So. Who the fuck is Bob Yega?

986
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: It depends on the story. You'll be shocked to know this.

987
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: And there are some things that they all tend to

988
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: agree on. Babiyaga is a wizard old crone who lives

989
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: in the forest or at the edge of the forest,

990
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: sometimes underground, but usually edge of the forest. Her hut

991
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: stands on chicken legs. Sometimes it's two legs, sometimes it's

992
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: four legs. Sometimes it's goat legs, but usually it's chicken legs.

993
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean, not that anyone asked, but I

994
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: really loved the chicken legs.

995
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh.

996
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: I just think it's because also precarious. Yeah you know, yeah,

997
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: goat legs are sturdy. Yeah, chicken legs. Excuse me, Okay, sorry,

998
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: I put my fedora on again.

999
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: No, this is a it's a good it's your inner self.

1000
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you're letting your true self be seen.

1001
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: The house can walk around on these legs. Sometimes it

1002
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: can like move around, but more often it kind of

1003
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: stays in one place, and it can turn in place

1004
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. The house is its own entity.

1005
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: Often when the traveler arrives, they can't find the door.

1006
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes the house is no windows or doors, and you

1007
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: can make the house turn around and face you with

1008
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: like the so you can see the door if you

1009
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: say the right command, which one of the examples of

1010
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: the right command is hut hut, stand with your back

1011
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: to the forest, you're front to me, which is very literal.

1012
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm saying that all the time.

1013
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally, that's what I do. Uh, that's super helpful.

1014
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: My self driving car that I totally own. That's how

1015
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: I get my car to come to me. It's on

1016
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: chicken legs.

1017
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's it. That would be I mean, if

1018
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: there's anything that's going to get me on board with

1019
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: self driving cars, which feels near impossible, but yeah, if

1020
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: we're talking little chicken legs that can read my mind,

1021
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: maybe plug me in checking car.

1022
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: They went down the wrong alley, like focusing on like

1023
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: Tesla and all these like scientists. It should have been

1024
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: focusing on Bobby Agha, which is why I'm looking for

1025
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: investors for my company. That will No, I'm not going

1026
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: to try and become an never mind. The hut is

1027
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: surrounded by a fence made of bones, with skull lanterns

1028
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: topping the posts. In some stories there's a skull missing,

1029
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: which is a spot waiting to be your skull.

1030
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is creepy. Yeah, Okay.

1031
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: Inside the hut, she might be lying on the stove,

1032
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: her body stretched from one corner of the hut to

1033
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: the other, with her nose having grown so long it

1034
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: goes into the ceiling. Sometimes her breasts hang down over

1035
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: a carton like a curtain rod. A lot of old

1036
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: folklore is like really into being like, and this lady

1037
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: is ugly, and by that I mean tits, saggy tits.

1038
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: People get really into that.

1039
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: People. I mean people love some saggy tit imagery when

1040
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: it comes to a woman they're supposed to hate. Yeah,

1041
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: picking up on some anti Semitic stuff. This is like,

1042
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: I feel like all the cartoon logic classics of a

1043
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: way to characterize a villain in the worst kind of way. Yeah,

1044
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: but I love her. I love that she like it,

1045
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: like it? How does she get so big?

1046
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm not it was sometimes actually a lot of stories

1047
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: she's an ogress and like literally a giant, and I'll

1048
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the origins of that version

1049
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: of it. Sometimes she stirs the coals of her fire

1050
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: with her nose. Sometimes she's a regular sized woman and

1051
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: is like rail thin and ugly. Sometimes she has bear

1052
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: claws for hands. Sometimes she has iron teeth, and sometimes

1053
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: there's iron teeth like protrude from her gums, either like

1054
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: bore tusks or just like kind of like sideways like

1055
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: sticking out.

1056
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: Does she ever have guns for hands?

1057
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably. I can't imagine a version where she doesn't

1058
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: have guns from hands actually, And like one of the

1059
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: things that a lot of there's a lot of feminists

1060
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: who quite like Bobby a Go for some odd reason.

1061
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: And one of the main one one of the things

1062
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: that comes up is that like she just does not

1063
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: give a shit that she's ugly. She like revels in

1064
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: her power, right, And that's like the beauty of being

1065
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: a crone is like you're past the judgment of society

1066
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: that wants like Vasilissa only has one value and it's

1067
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: that she's beautiful and obedient. I guess she has two values.

1068
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: Bobbiaga has all kinds of value because she can like

1069
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: fuck everything up that she wants, and she controls night

1070
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: and day and the sun and shit.

1071
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, I love that rate of it because it's like, yeah,

1072
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: i mean, Vasily's the beautiful I know we're supposed to

1073
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: view her as the virtuous hero, but it's like everything

1074
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: about her that's considered societally desirable is what is also

1075
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: actively hindering her life totally being any kind of interesting

1076
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: of like, okay, you we think you're beautiful, so you

1077
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: can never go outside or have an experience. Yeah, and

1078
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: the bizarre things. You're beautiful, so you actually have to

1079
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: marry him today right now, and you're going to be

1080
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: caused to sit next to him. Is that what it? Yes? Yeah,

1081
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: So it is like she's and then the Bobby I got, Well,

1082
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that there are drawbacks, but it's

1083
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: like she's just completely liberated from anyone's bullshit, which does

1084
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: seem to have its merit. And she's a homeowner. Yeah, okay,

1085
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: she's a homeowner.

1086
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: I know. And she doesn't have aspirational like she doesn't.

1087
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: She is her own doll. She is her own you know,

1088
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: godfather figure.

1089
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: She did right. She doesn't need a doll. She doesn't

1090
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: need uh, she doesn't. She doesn't need a mommy. Yeah,

1091
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: although I would, I do want to know what her

1092
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: mom was like.

1093
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk a little bit about her origins. I

1094
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: think maybe more on Wednesday, but I'm not sure. Where

1095
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: is it in my script?

1096
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: Who knows? The only way to know is to go forward.

1097
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes she has a leg made out of clay or

1098
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: iron or steel. Sometimes on one leg has been like

1099
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: shriveled down to bone. Sometimes the things that people say

1100
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: about her rhyme like bobby ya gab bony leg rhymes

1101
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: in Russian apparently. And she leaves every day she's off

1102
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: to you know, she very She gets a lot done.

1103
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: She goes off to wherever she's doing in the world,

1104
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: usually to steal children for her meals. Comes home every night.

1105
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: Out in the world. She rides around in a huge mortar,

1106
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: like a you know, mortar pescle. She crouches in it

1107
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: with her knees almost up to her chin in some

1108
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: of the depictions, some of them it's like a little

1109
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: bit yeah, And in one hand, she wields the pestle,

1110
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: which she uses like a kind of like a riding

1111
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: crop to drive the mortar along, although I've also seen

1112
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: it where like she's like kind of paddling like a

1113
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: canoe along the ground with it.

1114
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh. I like that again, You're just like, this is

1115
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: going to be very loud, Yeah, and arduous, which means

1116
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: that while maybe she's not the most you know, mcan minded,

1117
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: she must be pretty strong.

1118
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,479
Speaker 2: That's true. I don't think I could if.

1119
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: You're heaving that thing, especially if you're in the fetal

1120
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: position while you're doing it. Yeah, that takes some serious

1121
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: upper arm strength on the bobby of gospel.

1122
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she has three horsemen who are obedient to her,

1123
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: and she's not like you there, ride this around for me.

1124
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1125
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Do you think the horsemen are unionized? Do you think

1126
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: they're paid?

1127
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder about the four Horsemen of

1128
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: the Apocalypse, Like is that a collective? Is it like

1129
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: work around? Because if so, I don't know, fucking bring it.

1130
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: What's the internal drama with the four horsemen? Because you

1131
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: know that there's like.

1132
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: A polycule, there's some.

1133
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: There's a polycule in there, and you know, like, and

1134
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: then there's there's one person who everyone is like, well,

1135
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: if we had to vote one horseman off the island,

1136
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: we all know who it was. Sorry, but like we're

1137
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: not going to go there. Yeah, sorry, sorry to that horseman.

1138
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. In her other hand, she

1139
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: has a broom which she uses to sweep away the

1140
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: tracks and some of the newer versions of the fairy tale.

1141
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: And when I say newer, I mean like a hundred

1142
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: years ago, like the mortar itself flies, and then she

1143
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: uses the broom to like sweep away the like basically

1144
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: like the contrails, like the way it disrupts the clouds

1145
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: when she flies, she sweeps it away with the broom.

1146
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: She's often surrounded by birds. Sometimes it's flocks of blackbirds

1147
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: that announce her coming. The wind also announces her coming.

1148
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes black geese follow her around on her daily quest,

1149
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: maybe helping her find the that. Yeah love that.

1150
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: Maybe chickens used to follow her around and then something

1151
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: terrible happened.

1152
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: No, they kind of like voltroned up into the house.

1153
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that better.

1154
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: She smells when people are coming in almost every story

1155
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: about her, specifically, she smells that they're Russian, and it

1156
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of Jack in this beanstalk, you know,

1157
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: like fee five so fum I smell the blood of

1158
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: an English right m hm.

1159
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: And that's how there's I feel like there's there's certain

1160
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: types of people that can smell insecure women from the

1161
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: New England area in a similar way, and they're not

1162
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: afraid to announce themselves either. Whatever the modern modern equivalent

1163
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: of fe fi full FuMB is. It might just be

1164
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: dming you high every week until you die.

1165
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like her pickup line, hi hi hi hi.

1166
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: I smell the blood someone who's visibly insecure. Yeah, exactly,

1167
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: uh did for them.

1168
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: So Russian doesn't have a definite versus indefinite article in

1169
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: speech like the versus a, and it uses other contexts

1170
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: to get those ideas across. It's not like lacking that

1171
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: concept as far as I understand, but translators often struggle

1172
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: to understand. And so something that has come up a

1173
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: lot is Bobbi Yaga a specific person or is it

1174
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: like a type of creature? You know, is she Babbi

1175
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: Yaga or she the Babba Yaga or she Bobby Yaga?

1176
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: And the answer to that is yes, she is all

1177
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: of those things depending on the story.

1178
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: I like that that good answer.

1179
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes her name is capitalized in the Russian, sometimes it isn't,

1180
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: so sometimes it's just like, you know whatever. And in

1181
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: some stories she has two sisters. Their names names of

1182
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: her sisters. I'm gonna give you a chance to guess

1183
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: the names of.

1184
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: Her sisters, the names of her sisters.

1185
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: I'll give you what as a riddle.

1186
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Baba and Yaga.

1187
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: No, it's Babba Yaga and Bobbi Yaga. They all have

1188
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: the same name.

1189
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Have you said Baba yaga? Does it translate to anything

1190
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: or is it just like.

1191
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So then this is this cuts into this

1192
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: cuts into Wednesdays. But actually, like I should have put

1193
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: this here, so I'm being such a being. So Baba

1194
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: and Yaga is two different things. Baba is grandma and

1195
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: then a lot of Slavic languid languages, Baba means grandma.

1196
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: And that's why like characters are like being like hey, granny, right,

1197
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: and I'll talk about some of the adultmological shit of

1198
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 2: that that gets interesting. And then Yaga. People have said,

1199
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: oh it translates to this or it's etymologically similar to this,

1200
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: But there's like eighteen different things that people think it's

1201
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: similar to. As far as I can tell, it's basically

1202
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: just a proper name in this context, because it's like

1203
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: some people are like, oh, it comes from serpent, or

1204
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: it comes from deceiver, or it comes from witch, or

1205
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: it becomes from this, that or the other thing. So

1206
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: there is like the most common direct translation of Babiyaga's

1207
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 2: grandmother Witch, which is also very fitting to how because

1208
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, there's a grandmother witch who lives in

1209
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: the forest, right, m hmm. But yeah. Sometimes she guards

1210
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: the water of life, which can bring people back from

1211
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: the dead. Sometimes she guards both the waters of life

1212
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: and death. The water of life brings you back from

1213
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: the dead, but the water of death reconstitutes your corpse

1214
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: because it's like the water of corpses. So if you're

1215
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: like beheaded or whatever, you can't just like sprinkle the

1216
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: water of life on you, right, or you'll like come

1217
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: back from the dead and die ruct.

1218
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh and then you'll you'll just be in extreme pain.

1219
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you need both the waters of life

1220
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: and death. Sometimes she sucks the life out of women

1221
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: out by their breasts. There is quite possibly a fair

1222
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: amount of lesbianism and the older stories that was kind

1223
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: of left out of the translations into English, and I've

1224
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: only found references to this in like an academic book

1225
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, and some of the subtexts of this

1226
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: was left out of the translations, And I'm like, motherfucker,

1227
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: give me the subtext. This is all I want.

1228
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, there's a lot of people out

1229
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: there who would love to hear a story about a

1230
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: mysterious woman in the woods sucking the life out of.

1231
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: Your Tata's totally.

1232
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: There's maybe just a lot of people who want to

1233
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: hear that.

1234
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that we could probably make a living

1235
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: writing those stories. Actually fifty shit in their mind, maybe

1236
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: better in any of that. Anyway, she has a and

1237
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: there's actually so Babiyaga is the main name that people

1238
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: use for now, but she has dozens or hundreds of names.

1239
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Like most of the iconic figures out of folklore, she's

1240
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: most known for being Russian, but there's versions of her

1241
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: found in pretty much every Slavic culture, and echoes of

1242
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: her can be found throughout the world, and like comparable

1243
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: figures can be found in cultures around the world. Interesting

1244
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: and one of the things that's interesting about her. She's

1245
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: the figure of the witch right, but in most Western

1246
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: European belief which is are individual mortal women who made

1247
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: some kind of pact with the devil, Baby Aga is

1248
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: more of a force of nature herself. She doesn't need

1249
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: the devil. There's one origin for her story for her

1250
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: that involves the devil. The Devil's like, you know what

1251
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: I need? I need like a bad bitch. So he

1252
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: finds twelve of the worst women he could find, and

1253
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: he throws them into the devil's stewpot, cooks them up

1254
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: and hails the steam, and then he spits back into

1255
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: the cauldron and out pops Bobby a.

1256
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: Go.

1257
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: I hope he at least made like a sexy calendar

1258
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: with them.

1259
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: For that's true, is the twelve of.

1260
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: The worst women in the world. That's a calendar that

1261
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: would be really appealing to me. Wait, so he boiled

1262
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: twelve women together, and then the Bobby Aga was the result.

1263
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, boil the women together and hailed the steam of

1264
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: the boiling women, and then spit and Bobby Agaz that

1265
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: was created from the spit of the devil. After inhaling

1266
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: the steam of the twelve the people that he hired

1267
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: for the calendar.

1268
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a very thorough cooking process.

1269
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think that's where Babiyagah comes from. That's

1270
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: like one version, right, but it is a little bit

1271
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: later than Bobby A. Gaza as a specifically constituted mythical character.

1272
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: And when we come back on Wednesday, we'll talk about

1273
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: where she comes from as my cliffhanger. But we don't

1274
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: have to like end it there if you have like

1275
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: my thoughts. But that's what I got for a cliffhanger.

1276
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I have a million more questions, but

1277
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 1: I feel I feel as if all may be revealed.

1278
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: It might be, but well, first let's reveal Jamie Loftus

1279
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 2: as a person who has stuff to plug.

1280
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I'm like coming down from this,

1281
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: Bobby go ha. I'm so excited to learn more about her.

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Speaker 1: I've only heard about her, I think only a name.

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Speaker 1: So this is thrilling. I guess what I will plug is.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Jamie

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Speaker 1: Lofti's help or uh, you can buy my book about

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Speaker 1: Bobby Gau's favorite dish, hot Dogs, my book all about

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Speaker 1: the history and sort of I can't think of the word.

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Speaker 1: There's usually a big word I use. It's not coming

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Speaker 1: right now. It's all about it's everything about dot dogs.

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Speaker 1: It's called raw Dog. It's anti disestablishmentarians, everyone's go to

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Speaker 1: big word. But yeah, you can buy Raw Dog. You

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Speaker 1: can pre order it now. It comes out next May.

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Speaker 1: It would be awesome if you pre ordered it. I

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Speaker 1: hear that that's supposed to be helpful. Or you can

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts including Ghost Church, my scary little podcast

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Speaker 2: You can yay, Sophie, you have anything to plug.

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Speaker 3: with Bridget Todd. Wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hell, yes, okay. I'm on the Internet under my name.

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Speaker 2: If you search me, you'll find me on the Internet

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Speaker 2: saying I wish I was on the Internet less, and

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Speaker 2: everyon'll make ha haha, and I'll be like, no, I'm serious,

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Speaker 2: and then they'll be like it's kind of an asshole.

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Speaker 2: Thank for you to say, since we're all people who

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Speaker 2: like being on the Internet, that's something you can do

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Speaker 2: if you would like. And I will talk at you

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday, good.

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Speaker 3: Bye Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff is a production

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