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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Histories, a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning in. This is a two parter, parter parter parter,

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Speaker 1: part thank you too, Part two. It's two part part

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Speaker 1: part part two. Thanks to our super producer mister Max Williams,

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Speaker 1: also research associate on this. This became our entire week

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Speaker 1: because Noel, you and I have a lot of opinions

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Speaker 1: about the candies. And I'm bet by the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and it's me no and I don't

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Speaker 2: know what do you say? We dive right in to

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Speaker 2: the chocolate river.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a reading of the of a little piece

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Speaker 1: of satire written for the Sundial coming out of Ohio

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Speaker 1: State Credit to the authors, Sarah Palazzo and Emily Pratt.

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Speaker 3: As the festivities of Halloween come to a close, we

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Speaker 3: find our subject an almond joy candy left forgotten at

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Speaker 3: the bottom of his child's candy bag. He is no

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Speaker 3: stranger to this life. After going uneaten, he must endure

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Speaker 3: the annual humiliation of being given away on the following Halloween,

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Speaker 3: being passed on to child after child, for he has

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Speaker 3: never wanted in anyone's home. The endless cycle of fleeting

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Speaker 3: hope and crushing rejection never gets easier for our unfortunate

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Speaker 3: Almond Joy.

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Speaker 1: So it's the fruitcake argument.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 2: I do recognize I'm in the minority in liking Almond Joe.

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Speaker 2: But hey, I clean up on Halloween, you know, because

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Speaker 2: my kid gives me all the Almond Joy.

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Speaker 1: Cleaning up on Halloween is pretty good. How many of

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Speaker 1: those Almondjoys make it to next Halloween?

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Speaker 3: Oh God, I don't know. There's no leftover candy. It's

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Speaker 3: they had to be consumed. No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't end up with like that many because

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Speaker 2: I guess to Max's point, it does feel like it

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Speaker 2: is sort of the red headed step child of the

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Speaker 2: you know, candy grab bag that is often purchased, so

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Speaker 2: you know, you got to give it out to somebody.

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Speaker 2: But then I guess they trickle down to it does

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Speaker 2: seem like kind of like a dad candy.

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Speaker 3: So I wear it with bride.

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Speaker 1: Now, Max, can you break down for us a little

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Speaker 1: bit of how Ohio State speaks to you nostalgically for

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Speaker 1: all of them Joy?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's just like you know, my opinions on

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Speaker 4: almond Joy are so strong that So I'm a diehard

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Speaker 4: University of Michigan fan, so I hate Ohio State, but

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Speaker 4: I will quote them if we're making fun of Almondjoy together.

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Speaker 4: But also, University of Michigan's head coach, head coach doesn't

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Speaker 4: dance with a whistle in.

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Speaker 5: His mouth, So I'm all good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I don't know about you, but uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that flew over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's fine. There'll be some do we need

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Speaker 3: to wait next?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying we need to have whistles? Or so?

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Speaker 4: Before last year's Ohio State Michigan game, Ohio State's head

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Speaker 4: coach Ryan Day, who, if he loses for a fourth

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Speaker 4: straight time, will certainly be fired. I know a number

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Speaker 4: of Ohio State fans who wish.

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Speaker 5: He was already fired. Uh.

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Speaker 4: There is a video, very unfortunate video of him dancing

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Speaker 4: the He's in the middle with all the players around,

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Speaker 4: He's dancing around with a whistleless mouth, and it's like

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Speaker 4: the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, if it's not too subversive, I suggest

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Speaker 1: we put a max with the facts in on that one.

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Speaker 3: Why not? Why not sports? These sports a dish.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it does appear that there are some very

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Speaker 2: new England roots to almond Joy. According to an article

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Speaker 2: from mash dot com, The Untold Truth of Almondjoy, it

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Speaker 2: got its roots in Naugatuck, Connecticut with the candy seller

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Speaker 2: Peter Paul Halajian, who founded the Peter Paul Candy Company

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Speaker 2: in nineteen nineteen, and more than two decades later, the almond.

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Speaker 3: Joy was born a you know, a little I.

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Speaker 2: Guess elliptical, you know, nugget of a coconut covered in

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Speaker 2: milk chocolate set with a crunchy almond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's the thing you might be wondering, ridiculous historians,

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Speaker 1: why did Peter Paul Hallijohn create the Peter Paul Candy Company.

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Speaker 1: He changed his last name to Paul because it being

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Speaker 1: mispronounced Halla John or halle John. Yeah, kept being mispronounced.

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Speaker 1: And the roots of this company do date back to

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Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds. But the almond Joy's real moment

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Speaker 1: turns out we weren't just citing mounds for fun and games.

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Speaker 1: Wang shen Wang. You gotta check him out. He's so good.

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Speaker 1: He has a great bit on Almond Joy mounts. And

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Speaker 1: it turns out that Mounds themselves are part of the

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Speaker 2: I guess I never realized that Mounds came first. So

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Speaker 2: in the earliest days of the Peter Paul Candy Company,

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Speaker 2: now with name change, Peter Paul himself had quite a

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Speaker 2: few different confections that he had designed, different candy bars too,

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Speaker 2: including coconut one called the ConA Bar, which is chocolate, coconuts, nuts,

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Speaker 2: and some fruits. And that was actually one of the

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Speaker 2: This is according to Connecticut Explored. Mounds came around in

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Speaker 2: nineteen twenty one as a combo of coconut filling, coated

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Speaker 2: things went, it kind of served as almost a prototype

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Speaker 2: for the Almond Joy. But even before the Almond Joy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Mounds was quite successful and when Paul unfortunately

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Speaker 1: passes away in nineteen twenty seven, Carl Kazigian decides to

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Speaker 1: specialize in candy, and there is a beauty to specificity.

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Speaker 1: So he says, look, we're going to get rid of

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Speaker 1: But we have to make every literally every single mound

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Speaker 1: by hand. So here's what col does that's very smart.

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Speaker 1: He automates it. He takes like a Henry Ford approach

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Speaker 1: And so in the nineteen thirties, the Peter Paul Candy

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Speaker 3: Wow, there's something to be said about that.

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Speaker 2: At this time, with even with the assembly line stuff

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Speaker 2: have been fully automated. I guess I'm picturing sort of

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Speaker 2: of there's still a human element at this point, even

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Speaker 1: And so just like Swanson with all those turkeys that

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Speaker 1: probably asks crates of coconuts, and they're like, what are

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Speaker 4: The guys proposing something in a coconut falls and knocks

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Speaker 1: And they're like, dang, Jeremy's out of the game. Almond

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Speaker 1: Joy is developed as a result of this. They used

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Speaker 1: to make a thing called dream Bars, which were coconut

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Speaker 2: That's interesting because you think it would assembly no maybe

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Speaker 2: they essentially were able to double their output. Both of

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Speaker 2: bars and have the same exact filling. So there we go,

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Speaker 2: two coconuts with one coconut, and then Almond Joy of

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Speaker 2: course uses milk chocolate and adds that whole almond. The

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Speaker 2: and this protects the almond from getting soggy and gives

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Speaker 2: you know, folks, kind of a little extra hit of chocolate.

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Speaker 1: And Max compares coconut to coca nut to poison, which

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know, Max, I gotta tell you, man,

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Speaker 1: have you ever had a good curry?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I had forgotten that I wrote that line.

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Speaker 4: And because this is this is my moment of truth

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Speaker 4: Like I never seek them out, but I don't I

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Speaker 5: It's more than I just.

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Speaker 4: Can't have them with the condition con That's where this

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Speaker 4: because of the condition ASID, I can't have chocolate, I

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah no, but then a good coconut curry

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Speaker 1: I gotta cook them for you sometimes, you guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting pretty good at it. But all right, still, uh

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Speaker 1: we have more satire from Palazzo and Pratt about the

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It is again arguing a kind of

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Speaker 1: send it back. They'll regift fruitcakes. Sure, I don't know, Like,

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Speaker 1: have you guys ever eaten fruitcake? Are you a fan?

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Speaker 4: I mean one year Alex got a fruitcake for the

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Speaker 4: for weeks until somebody just threw it away because it

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Speaker 4: was a joke.

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Speaker 1: But right, that would be Alex Williams, biological brother of

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Speaker 1: Max and our composer for Ridiculous History.

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Speaker 4: I remember, well, y'all have an episode about fruitcakes for

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Speaker 4: Antarctic explorers or something that, right, because the funny, funny

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Speaker 4: I worked on it, so I remember listening to that

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Speaker 4: one and be like, oh, that's my fruitcake?

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Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah? I don't think I've told you

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Speaker 1: guys that you have never Oh wow, and here we

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Speaker 1: are learning on the hot streets of the internet. Thank you, Max.

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Speaker 1: That's very kind. We have other directions to go, of course,

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Speaker 1: for many people listening, you might be thinking of other

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Speaker 1: candy that has yet to be named, and you might

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Speaker 1: be thinking, what about those red hots, what about all

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Speaker 3: Candy, lemon heads perhaps.

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Speaker 1: Lemon heads perhaps, what about laughy taffy. What about you know,

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Speaker 1: orange and black wax paper wrapped taffies. Was that just

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Speaker 3: It's it can be very intense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it has anti inflammatory properties, can act as

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Speaker 1: Licorice is interesting because it's one of those love it

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because people will sometimes refer

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Speaker 2: Them, it's a marshmallow like so, I mean, I'm okay

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the ultimate the ultimate reason.

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Speaker 1: I think it was wasn't it? Stuff you should know?

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Speaker 3: They're not smarties. Smarties are around.

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Speaker 1: Right right, and TikTok is got rolled up?

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Speaker 1: Killdy Well, while you're looking that up, I want to

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Speaker 1: a greater Smarties.

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Speaker 2: question some people maybe having in the audience. Max in particular,

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Speaker 2: how did the necho wafer.

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Speaker 1: Last so long? Because it's kind of like other you know,

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Speaker 1: if you go into a cracker barrel or a country

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Speaker 1: candy of yesteryear, like Penny Candy, Rock Crystal candy, Warhouse

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Speaker 1: spelled hore Hound malamars.

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Speaker 2: That's love marshmallowy chocolatey thing. Really quickly though, I was

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Speaker 2: looking at the history of Smarties and they definitely are

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty adjacent to Neco Wafers, founded in nineteen forty

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Speaker 2: nine by Edward d. He actually repurposed a World War

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Speaker 2: Two pellet making machine to make and that's where the

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Speaker 2: shape of these things come to center.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I had no idea, And also shout out

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Speaker 1: to Max who just slid us a note during class

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Speaker 1: about pepsi peeps.

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Speaker 2: About pepsi peeps, but that sounds like something you'd take

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Speaker 2: for a upset stomach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned that one from last week tonight. I've

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Speaker 4: never had one, but there was a there was a

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Speaker 4: period where pepsi and peeps did a combination. Oh god, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it days, but it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: awful marshmallows and awful soda mixed together.

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Speaker 1: And in February of twenty twenty three they got back

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Speaker 1: together because they have worked with each other for some time.

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Speaker 1: It appears this goes all the way to the top

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Speaker 1: of soda and sugar and candy. And I can't believe it,

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Speaker 1: but we made this a two parter.

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Speaker 3: Huh what do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think we did too. The last thing on Smarty Sorry,

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Speaker 2: one of the top results that comes up when you

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Speaker 2: google Smarties is are Smarties made of chalk? So there

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Speaker 2: you go, But no, I think this is a delightful

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Speaker 2: tuope parter.

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Speaker 5: And I got one last thing to leave us with there.

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Speaker 4: If you type in candy corn jokes into Google, you

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Speaker 4: will find that's one of the top things. A candy

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Speaker 4: corn looking in the mirror and says, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Like me, you go good cute looking, they have a

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Speaker 2: nice shape. I like the the aesthetics of candy corn.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to eat them.

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Speaker 1: I also, you know, I also want to note there

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Speaker 1: are things like seafood flavored candy out there by Japanese

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Speaker 1: squid candy. It's not bad. There are pickles flavored candies.

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Speaker 1: What we're going to see is that throughout the world

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Speaker 1: of candy, you can properly find the texture and the

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Speaker 1: taste that you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Agreed. It's out there.

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Speaker 2: If you can imagine it, then chances are someone has created.

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Speaker 1: It and thinks as always for joining us, folks. Big

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Speaker 1: big thanks to our super producer and research associate, mister

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Speaker 1: Max Williams. Big thanks to Alex Williams, composer of this

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Speaker 1: slapping bop. You here at the end of every show.

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Speaker 1: What candy do you think Jonathan Strickland aka the Quist

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Speaker 1: and Joyce do you think he's a candy man?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's in the sense that if you say his

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Speaker 2: name a certain number of times that year or you

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Speaker 2: will appear and murder you with his hook hand.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think he might go like, you know,

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Speaker 4: the dentist route and eat Apples's candy.

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Speaker 2: Got to get you a toilet papering job instantly on Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Pez, Pez is what I was thinking about.

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Speaker 2: Related very adjacent, but at least they figured out that

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Speaker 2: we'll sell the shy candy uh so that they can

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Speaker 2: get the toy and then the dispenser, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then the Pez dispensers was born.

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Speaker 1: I think Pez is original, or at least the dispenser

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Speaker 1: was meant to be an anti smoking aid or some

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Speaker 1: fun story for another day.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps, Yeah, thank you to Pez for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think, if I'm not mistaken, we've talked

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Speaker 2: a bit about the history of PEZ, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's a story onto itself, Like I believe there are

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Speaker 2: some twists and turns in that one, So maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: revisit that for a future episode.

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Speaker 3: But man, yeah, no, this is fun.

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Speaker 1: Thanks also to Christopher Hasiotis, Eve's Jeff cot Gabe Luzier

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Speaker 1: our pals at Ridiculous Crime, and we got an excellent

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Speaker 1: opportunity to hang out with them recently. So check out

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Speaker 1: that crossover wherein we as a group play a game

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Speaker 1: called twenty Questions.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time, folks.

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