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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and Mary Christmas, Happy holidays. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning us in and welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle Podcast with Matt Taylor. That's the better part

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Speaker 1: of the equation right there, Jack Doyle, I'm Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: and again this is going out on Christmas evening, so

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Speaker 1: Mary Christmas, Happy holidays everybody. Full disclosure, we are taping

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Speaker 1: this ahead of the holiday, but obviously talking about the

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Speaker 1: latest with the Indianapolis Colts. Unfortunately, some hard truths to

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Speaker 1: discuss tonight, as the Colts are now eight and seven,

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Speaker 1: lost on Monday Night Football to the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. The Colts have lost five in a row,

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Speaker 1: six of their last seven, and playoff hopes are kind

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Speaker 1: of tough to see right now. But we will get

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Speaker 1: into all of it as we progress here. But as

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Speaker 1: I said, Jack Doyle, this is going out on Christmas evening,

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Speaker 1: so Mary Christmas to you. Give us a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a foreshadow. Play by play, how do you think

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Speaker 1: your morning went today with the kids getting up early

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Speaker 1: and sniffing around under the Christmas tree trying to find

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Speaker 1: out what Santa left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, up early, that's the right, that's the right. Way

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Speaker 2: to put it, Matt, Merry Christmas everybody out here, thanks

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Speaker 2: for listening.

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 1: Matt as you as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the best, It really is.

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Speaker 2: Just seeing the excitement and getting to see it through

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Speaker 2: the kid's eye is very very special and something you know,

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Speaker 2: I cherish as the years go by.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. So hopefully the Doyle family is

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Speaker 1: right nigh. Oh yeah, opening up all those Christmas presents

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Speaker 1: and the sentimon rolls going in the oven. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: classic seven.

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Speaker 3: Rolls on a Christmas month.

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Speaker 1: I can smell your living room right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And Matt, I got the trash bag out.

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Speaker 2: I am a big trash bag. Hey, bottle that thing up,

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Speaker 2: Shoot it in the trash bag right here, pal, We

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Speaker 2: got right. I'm not worried about the presence. I'm worried

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Speaker 2: about getting that wrapping paper in the trash.

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Speaker 3: That's me as possible.

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Speaker 1: That's me too, a t I am quality control, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, I am on clean up duty and I'm

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Speaker 1: just managing. And okay, I'm pretty sure there was a

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Speaker 1: tissue paper that went underneath the couch. Got to get

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Speaker 1: that later, you know what I mean, Like just scanning

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Speaker 1: the inventory of all the cleanup that's going to happen

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week and the day. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get down to brass tacks here. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about I mean, we are just lamenting

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Speaker 1: another tough loss for the Colts on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: We are going to describe the current state of things,

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Speaker 1: and we'll also we're gonna get Jack's thoughts on where

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Speaker 1: the Colts go from here. With only two games to play,

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Speaker 1: they get back inside the AFC South to wrap up

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Speaker 1: the season. The Jaguars are up next and then Week

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Speaker 1: eighteen against the Houston Texans, but the Colts fall to

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers forty eight to twenty seven. That

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Speaker 1: drops them to eight and seven on the season. Jack Doyle,

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Speaker 1: let's unpack you know, just this, this giant ball of

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Speaker 1: sorrow that we're dealing with right now. How tough of

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Speaker 1: a pill was it to watch Monday Night Football on

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Speaker 1: the Colts. To see the Colts struggle so mightily, especially

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Speaker 1: on defense, that was.

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Speaker 2: Tough, Matt, tough pill to swallow. You know, it was just,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was tough to watch. You know, you

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Speaker 2: go to primetime football and we talked about last week

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Speaker 2: and how you get up for those games and it's

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Speaker 2: your chance to show you know what your team's about,

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Speaker 2: what you're about, And yeah, I know defensively, they're waking

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Speaker 3: Morning for what they put out there.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so yeah, it was really tough, but you know,

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Speaker 2: find a way to move forward and wake up the

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Speaker 2: next day. The sun still comes up and you get

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Speaker 2: to play some more football. So let's get ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the bright side of things though.

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Speaker 1: Let's take him in order. The offense. They put up

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Speaker 1: twenty seven points against San Francisco. Right now, it's not

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Speaker 1: the same defense as the Colts saw the week before

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, but still they got some playmakers on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Round number two. Philip Rivers comes

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Speaker 1: back and he says, hey, guys, watch this. We were

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Speaker 1: very game specific against the Seahawks. Colts put up twenty

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Speaker 1: seven points. Philip Rivers actually throws for more yards in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter on Monday Night Football than he did

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Speaker 1: all of the week before against the Seattle Seahawks. The

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Speaker 1: Colts were way more wide open in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers in front of me. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think the Colts had you know, five

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the way Philip Rivers played

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Speaker 1: and the way he was able to run that offense?

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Speaker 1: And kind of a little a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: anecdotal nugget here, first game for Philip Rivers in front

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Speaker 1: of a you know, sold out crowd at Lucas Oil

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Speaker 1: Stadium in COVID during the COVID season in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: He never played in front of more than fourteen thousand

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Speaker 1: fans at Lucas Oil Stadium. And you could tell the

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Speaker 1: first couple of series in that game on Monday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: I mean shots of him on the JumboTron. He was

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Speaker 1: relishing the ability to beat a Colt's uniform in front

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Speaker 1: of a you know, the normal vibes that Lucas Oil

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Speaker 2: I mean, how cool for I mean, just watching Philip

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Speaker 2: operate is just so much fun for me, man. And

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, with Philip coming back, I feel

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Speaker 2: like a lot of former players that you know, he's

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Speaker 2: kind of playing for all of us, right, Like That's

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Speaker 2: how I've kind.

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Speaker 1: Of felt like you are so much living through this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were absolutely living through Phil right now, like

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Speaker 2: acting like we could go do you know something somewhat

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Speaker 2: it's similar and got a couple of plays left in us.

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Speaker 2: But you know what he did the other night and

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Speaker 2: the way he played was you know awesome to watch

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Speaker 2: and watching the no huddle and watching him just get

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Speaker 2: right back into you know, playing quarterback and the way

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Speaker 2: he's always played. And I know it was special for him,

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Speaker 2: you know, to have his whole family there, you know,

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Speaker 2: they kept showing them on TV. I mean there's he's

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Speaker 2: got kids up there who've never seen him play, right,

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Speaker 2: and so that's got to be a great memory for

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Speaker 2: his kids and getting to see dad play and now

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Speaker 2: it and watching Dad play and him play well. So

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Speaker 2: so really cool for Phil and the whole River's family

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true, but I just

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Speaker 1: have to imagine. I mean, so much is still there

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Speaker 1: in place, offensively from when you play that one season

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Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers in twenty twenty, you're watching these games

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Speaker 1: from your living room the last two weeks, Jack, are

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Speaker 1: you are you finding yourself kind of like following along

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Speaker 1: because you can hear the effects over the TV on

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football. You know, they have the parabolic mics

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Speaker 1: on the sideline, so you can hear the cadence and

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Speaker 1: him calling things out and gesturing at the defense and

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Speaker 1: you know, changing the play at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Are you hearing those things in the background and You're like,

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're going to do here on all?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was funny.

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Speaker 2: I was even I knew exactly what they're doing on

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Speaker 2: every play, and again it made me. It was you

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Speaker 2: know when they were up there calling at the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage obviously, but it was fun for me. And

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Speaker 2: I was texting, you know, some of my buddies are

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Speaker 2: in a group text being like, hey, this is the play.

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Speaker 2: You know it's saying stuff like that because it was

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Speaker 2: it was you know, it's very similar terminology and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just watching him go up there and just operate

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Speaker 2: and getting them in the right play and just picking

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Speaker 2: I mean, what an ultimate competitor man and it was

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Speaker 2: really fun and it just stinks that, you know, it

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Speaker 2: came in a losing effort, but it was really proud

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Speaker 2: of the way Phil played and that was fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, I mean I even personally, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I found myself trying to intentionally try to take a

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Speaker 1: step back on the radio broadcast because you know, play

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Speaker 1: by play there's all the pre snaps set up. You know,

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Speaker 1: the right. It's tight end here running back there. But

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Speaker 1: you heard so much of that in the background during

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Speaker 1: the play by play broadcast of the game. I just

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Speaker 1: kept intentionally trying to say, just listen to me. It

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Speaker 1: reminded to It reminded me, I should say, of Peyton

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Speaker 1: the gyrating and the you know, the audibles and the

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Speaker 1: checks and a line of scrimmage. I just tried to,

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Speaker 1: you know, take a step back and just say, listen

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Speaker 1: to the maestro on the field. Look how much you

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Speaker 1: know diagnosis is going on pre snap in a line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage by the great Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Let's step back and appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Was a beautiful show, like a symphony, like an orchestra,

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Speaker 2: you know, you saying the maestro. It was just really

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Speaker 2: cool to watch Man and seeing him get him in

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Speaker 2: the right place. And I love and another part, I

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Speaker 2: love not only just the play but getting him the

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Speaker 2: right protection and watching san Fran like show blitz. On

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Speaker 2: one side. You know, I can hear the call and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the word or whatever what

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Speaker 2: they're calling. Why when know why they're doing what? I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say any of that. Let the other

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Speaker 2: teams try and figure that out. But you know him

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Speaker 2: just being like, Nope, that's not where it's coming. We're

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Speaker 2: going over this way. And he just knows what they're doing,

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Speaker 2: you know all this. You know, people say you can't

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Speaker 2: you know, diagnose the NFL defenses now because they you know,

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Speaker 2: they hide stuff so well. But not to Philip Rivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was right back in it like he knew, he

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Speaker 2: knew what was going on, he knew where to take

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Speaker 2: the protection and get us in the right play. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was a you know, he he called one and

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Speaker 2: hit Warren on a corner route when they brought pressure

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Speaker 2: weak and it just reminded me of a play like

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Speaker 2: I remember hitting that with him in Pittsburgh and the

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Speaker 2: exact same play, exact same pressure, and then there was

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Speaker 2: so it was it was really fun for me to

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Speaker 2: watch personally, as you know from playing with Phil and

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Speaker 2: no one was kind of going on as he's a

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Speaker 1: You know you mentioned the offensive line protection man. The

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Speaker 1: Colts offensive line is taken a hit. They have been

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Speaker 1: pretty healthy the altogether for most of this season, but

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you know, you got the

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Speaker 1: injury of the concussion to Braden Smith. He's out for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the regular season. Bernard Ryman at the

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Speaker 1: left tackle spot doesn't play, So the Colts switched up

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Speaker 1: a lot of their personnel. See if I can do

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Speaker 1: this in real time. At left tackle you had Jalen Travis,

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Speaker 1: left guard was quitting Nelson and by games in he

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Speaker 1: was like the only holdover still there. The guy that's

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Speaker 2: This guy can't wreck the game, you know, And like

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Speaker 2: you said, it's tough to find. And there's a reason

436
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Speaker 2: those guys are paid so well because of you know,

437
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Speaker 2: we've seen how important the position Is and yeah, you'd

438
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Speaker 2: love to have a guy that, you know, it's almost

439
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Speaker 2: like he stays healthy. We're getting ten sacks out of him. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 2: he's gonna get us a strip sack, you know, once

441
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Speaker 2: every three game. You know, It's it's unlike situation you

442
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Speaker 2: think of like the Robert Mathis is, the Dwight Freene.

443
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Speaker 2: He's like the guys that you know, you can play

444
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Speaker 2: with the lead, and you know, those guys can get

445
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Speaker 2: off the you know, get off the ball and change

446
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Speaker 2: a football game.

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Speaker 3: You know.

448
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's it's tough to not have that. And yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: you know, hopefully you know someone can step up and yeah,

450
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Speaker 2: and again find some momentum, find some confidence and get rolling.

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Speaker 1: All right, we last week, you know you mentioned Laotsu

452
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Speaker 1: lots last week he was our player spotlight. This week,

453
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Speaker 1: let's roll the player spotlight and double back to the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, because I do I don't

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Speaker 1: want to overshadow what we saw last night and what

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Speaker 1: we have consistently seen throughout the course of the season,

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Speaker 1: especially here late in the year, what we're seeing out

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Speaker 1: of Alec Pierce. Last week he holds in four catches

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Speaker 1: for a team high eighty six yards two touchdowns. It's

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Speaker 1: his first career multi touchdown game. He becomes the first

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Speaker 1: player with multiple touchdowns with catches over fifteen yards in

462
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Speaker 1: terms of touchdown reception since nim Hines had two such

463
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Speaker 1: catches for touchdowns week eight of the twenty twenty season. So,

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, the question to you is Pierce is becoming

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Speaker 1: a stud and he's thriving no matter who the quarterback is.

466
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately Pierson, a lot of the guys skill weapon

467
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: wise on this offense are getting pretty good at thriving

468
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Speaker 1: despite who their quarterback is throwing in the football. Where

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Speaker 1: has Pierce shown to you the most growth this year

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Speaker 1: in year number four?

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Speaker 2: What a stud man? I love watching him play football.

472
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Speaker 2: It just an ultimate competitor man. That ball is in

473
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Speaker 2: the air, it's his ball, that's my ball. You know,

474
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Speaker 2: that's the mentality has And you know we see the touchdown,

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Speaker 2: you know, hitting the post. And I can't remember if

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Speaker 2: it was the first or second one that he made

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Speaker 2: a great move at the top of the route. I

478
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Speaker 2: think it was the second one when the pass was

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Speaker 2: the third and long and they got the pass interference

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Speaker 2: called to and he still caught it. Yeah, but he

481
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Speaker 2: just made an unbelievable move at the top of the route.

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Speaker 2: And that's where you've seen his game grow, right, you know,

483
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Speaker 2: he came in and it was like everyone was kind

484
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Speaker 2: of pigeonholed that this is just a go route runner

485
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Speaker 2: guy and was great at tracking the deep ball. But

486
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Speaker 2: he's really expanded his game and what he can do

487
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Speaker 2: at you know, from a release standpoint at the line

488
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, and then what he can do at the

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Speaker 2: top of the routes to create separation. And then he

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Speaker 2: goes and competes for every single football. I don't care

491
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Speaker 2: if the ball is underthrown. I don't care if it's overthrown. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he competes and that's why he draws so many pass interferences, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it drives me nuts when I see a

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Speaker 2: guy when a ball is thrown. You know, they're running

495
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Speaker 2: deep down the field and a ball is underthrown and

496
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: the guy just kind of like flops. It doesn't but

497
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Speaker 2: he puts his foot in the ground and comes back

498
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Speaker 2: to the football and get and forces the refs to

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Speaker 2: make those calls. And that's how you get those calls.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, what a competitor man. I just love

501
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Speaker 2: the way he plays football, doesn't matter who's out there.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it would have been it would have been

503
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Speaker 2: fun to see. You know, it made me think last night,

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Speaker 2: like Philip Rivers loves a guy like Alec Pierce, like

505
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Speaker 2: to see him, like them both in their prime working together.

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Speaker 2: It would have been a lot of fun to watch

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Speaker 2: him go compete because Philip just throws such a catchable

508
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Speaker 2: ball that and he gives you a chance on every

509
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Speaker 2: ball he throws. And you got a guy like Pierce

510
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Speaker 2: who's big, physical, strong, fast, and and and competitor man

511
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Speaker 2: and once that ball man, it's just fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: As a as a fan.

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Speaker 1: Well, and there's obviously too so much time to get

514
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Speaker 1: into this. There's still two games to go in the

515
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Speaker 1: regular season plus the off season. You know, things are

516
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Speaker 1: going to get back into gear sooner than later once

517
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Speaker 1: the season ends, whenever it does. You know, as we

518
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of kick around the ideas of, you know,

519
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Speaker 1: how should the Colts you know, put together the roster

520
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Speaker 1: for the upcoming season, where do they prioritize and free agency?

521
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Speaker 1: But as it relates to the in house free agency class,

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Speaker 1: if he will for the Colts, I mean, Pierce is

523
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Speaker 1: gonna lead. He's going to be the top guy that's

524
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Speaker 1: going to be the most discussed within that free agency

525
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Speaker 1: class for the Colts. So again, well we'll get into

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Speaker 1: it now, but kind of kick it down the road

527
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Speaker 1: for the appropriate, you know, in in depth discussion. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, how how much should the Colts prioritize Alec Pearson?

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Speaker 2: You don't want that guy out the building. I mean,

530
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: it's that simple in my opinion, what he's done.

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Speaker 1: And would you have been saying that at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Of this No, No, I wouldn't have not necessarily, you know.

533
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Speaker 2: And and again it's just the steps he's made every

534
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: year to get better and better and better. And I

535
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: know Reggie, you know, it was fun to see how

536
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Speaker 2: excited Reggie Wayne was after the maybe it was the

537
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Speaker 2: second touchdown him high five and Philip and I know

538
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: that's like, man, he feels good about how much he's

539
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: worked with Alec and how much he's seen him develop,

540
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Speaker 2: and and to see the move he made at the

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Speaker 2: top of that route to score the touchdown on the

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Speaker 2: little you know nod you know, nod route, post route,

543
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. But yeah, you don't

544
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Speaker 2: let a guy like that out of the building. I

545
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Speaker 2: mean just you know, the way he carries himself a

546
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Speaker 2: and the way he competes, and the way that can

547
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Speaker 2: be infectious to a whole team. Man, I just I

548
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: just really like the way he plays football. And you know,

549
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: again the way he's played this year. You just it'd

550
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Speaker 2: be tough to let a guy like that, you know,

551
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Speaker 2: go shot the market.

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Speaker 1: Well, is it even more of an onus because you

553
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Speaker 1: lost eight not lost, but now you don't have a

554
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Speaker 1: d Mitchell in terms of depth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, So now if you lose both guys, you know,

557
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Speaker 1: within the span of a couple of months. Losing Piers

558
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: to free agency would really kind of you know, force

559
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Speaker 1: your hand to to continue to stock that shelf if

560
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: he will at the wide receiver position and you don't

561
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Speaker 1: have two first round draft picks the next couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think our wide receiver and just our skill

563
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: position in general, that's one of our greatest strengths of

564
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Speaker 2: our team. So let's try and keep that group together.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, you got Peers, Pitt is a dog Downs

566
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Speaker 2: I think is one of the better slot receivers in

567
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Speaker 2: the game, and and and and unique in the way

568
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: he can you know, figure out ways to get open

569
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Speaker 2: and being quarterback friendly. And then you have Tyler Warren. It,

570
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's an unbelievable unit, you know, and in

571
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Speaker 2: the skill position. So yeah, you don't you don't want

572
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Speaker 2: to let a guy like that go?

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Speaker 1: All right, put your former player hat back on here,

574
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Speaker 1: all right, this is again we need. This is why

575
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Speaker 1: I do in all seriousness, I do love this podcast

576
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: because of your perspective on a lot of different things,

577
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: good and bad. So unfortunately with this topic here, I mean,

578
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: the Colts were eight and two and they were sort

579
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: of the big man on campus as it relates to

580
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Speaker 1: the AFC playoff standings not that long ago, and here

581
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Speaker 1: they are eight and seven needing a lot of help.

582
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Speaker 1: And here's the deal too. I mean, I think most

583
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: people have read about this, but with this being put

584
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Speaker 1: out late in the week for those that may have

585
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: missed it, the Colts could flat out be eliminated from

586
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Speaker 1: the playoffs before they even take the field on Sunday

587
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars, because the Texans play the Chargers on Saturday,

588
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: a day early this week. So if the Texans beat

589
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Speaker 1: La the Colts, it doesn't matter what they do the

590
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: last two games doesn't matter what they do on Sunday

591
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Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. The Colts could be eliminated as early

592
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: as Saturday night depending on that outcome out West. But again,

593
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Speaker 1: put that former player hat back on Jack Doyle. How

594
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Speaker 1: do you keep coming back? How do you keep swiping

595
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: that key card, coming into the office, getting in side

596
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the locker room, getting your treatment, you know, performing with

597
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: the same gusto and the same intensity at practice when

598
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: you know you need a lot of help. You've lost

599
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: five straight games, it's late in the season, mentally, your tax,

600
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: physically your tax. How do you keep bringing it in

601
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: an answering the bell? I mean, I know it's your job,

602
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: but it's still easier said than done.

603
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, but you're playing in the NFL and

604
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: you have to reflect on that. You know, my drive

605
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: ins when it was situations like that. It's like Jack,

606
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, and especially for me, Jack, you're playing for

607
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: your hometown team, for the Indiam's Colts and you're playing

608
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: freaking a kid's game and you're playing football. Do you

609
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: have to have that p Yeah, you have to look

610
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: yourself in the mirror and be like, I'm here to

611
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: go play a kid's game, and I'm getting paid to

612
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: do it, a.

613
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Speaker 1: Lot of money to go play, like how lucky am I?

614
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Speaker 3: How lucky are you? And have some pride?

615
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: Man, And you got to go look at it, you know,

616
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: from an optimistic look, and you got to try And

617
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: what I try to do is trying to have that

618
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: rub off on my teammates and just the way I

619
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: was carrying myself. Hopefully other guys will kind of pick

620
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: themselves up and we'll go out there and have a

621
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Speaker 2: good week of practice, because who cares what's going on

622
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: around you. Things are not gonna go your way in life.

623
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Speaker 2: Life's not always fair, it doesn't, you know. Right now,

624
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you can sulk and what's that gonna do. That's gonna

625
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: do nothing for anybody, right other than hurt you, hurt

626
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: your career. You know, it shows what kind of appreciation

627
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: your reputation. Right, It's just it's just not how you

628
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: want to carry yourself. So, you know, if they need

629
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: to have a you know what do you want to

630
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: call it, come to Jesus talk in the team room.

631
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: Maybe they do.

632
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: But you signed up for seventeen and let's go play

633
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: number sixteen and let's go put our best foot forward.

634
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: And the way you do that is you get back

635
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: in your routine, you get into your details, and you

636
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: prepare for a football game. Who cares what's going on

637
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: around you. Everyone knows it, right, you know it, you

638
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: hear it. You know that a bunch you know, a

639
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: lot of things kind of got to go our way.

640
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: But you get an opportunity to play in the NFL.

641
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: You got to remember that and keep it that simple.

642
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Speaker 1: That's fascinating perspective.

643
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, you, I mean you gotta have it like

644
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, I always say, don't have a loser mentality, right, like,

645
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, be a winner, like in the way you

646
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: carry yourself.

647
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Speaker 1: Do you have to stalk that out in the locker room?

648
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, do you see it? Do a Senson and

649
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: when you see a guy kind of like buried in

650
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the back of his locker room, I'm just painting a

651
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: picture here, like a guy's got his hood up, ye,

652
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: buried on his phone, kind of disengaged from the less

653
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: of the the rest of the locker room. I mean,

654
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: do you how do you stalk that out or or

655
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: does it matter this time of year?

656
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do stalk it out. I usually you know

657
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: the way I carry myself.

658
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't a guy that like, I'm not

659
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: gonna go yell at a guy or so I would

660
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: try and make a joke and try and like, you know,

661
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: get the you know, when you get the vibes up

662
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: a little bit, like let's bring the energy a little

663
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: bit here, and just trying to be you know, not

664
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: annoying about it, be like hey, you know, go Colts,

665
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go work, right. I mean that's the

666
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: way I carried myself, and I tried to make that

667
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: rub off on everybody else. And and and I think again,

668
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: I I I know this group, and and this core

669
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: group has been through a lot, right, but crazier things

670
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: have had happened, man, And this NFL is a crazy,

671
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: crazy deal. So how sick would you be if you know,

672
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: the scenarios do go your way and you don't take

673
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: care of your business. And we haven't taken care of

674
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: it to this point. But we get another opportunity coming

675
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: up against Jacksonville, So let's go play some freaking football.

676
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about the core group of guys that

677
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: have been together, yea, And again the unfortunate truth is this,

678
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Zaire, Franklin, Quentin Nelson's been here

679
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: a long time, Jonathan Taylor since twenty twenty, Kenny Moore

680
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen, Grover stewart'since seventeen, Buckner since twenty, Pittman

681
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: since twenty, Moiley Cox since twenty seventeen. I go on

682
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: and on, But like that's the core group of guys.

683
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Damn good football players. Yeah, damn good guys.

684
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

685
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: And in terms of the playoffs, and we'll see what

686
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: happens the rest of the year, Like you said, stranger

687
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: things have happened. Still two games to go, we'll see,

688
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: but to this point, just not a whole lot to

689
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: show for it in terms of playing in the postseason.

690
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: How much do you think think that is weighing on

691
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: the core group of guys, the great leaders inside this

692
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: locker room, guys that are busting their ass every single week,

693
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: but just don't they don't have the postseason hardware accolades to,

694
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, to put on their resumes.

695
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: It's weighing on them.

696
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: It's weighing on me for them, right and and and

697
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, I go back to the you know, I

698
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: feel like it kind of started with that twenty one season.

699
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: That was my last year, and.

700
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: That's so wasted on me, the way that one kind

701
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: of went down. And I know those guys are feeling it, man,

702
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: But again, like you said, those are damn good guys

703
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: and they're going to carry themselves the right way. They're

704
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: not gonna let it show at work and the way

705
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: they're leading this team, that's for sure. And we got

706
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: plenty of times to soul search in the offseason and

707
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: things like that. But right now we got a game

708
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: and a short week coming up fast, so you better

709
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: get ready to go. All right, Yeah, go ahead, you're good.

710
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: All right, We got to close out the show here.

711
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: But it is an interesting week. As we said, it

712
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: is Christmas Day as we put this podcast out. We

713
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: talked about a month ago with Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a

714
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: unique situation because you still have a job to do,

715
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: and you still have a job to do this week.

716
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: But Thanksgiving you kind of come in early, you leave early,

717
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: go home, celebrate the holiday with family. Christmas is different.

718
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: You shut down, you know, and rightfully so, right for

719
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: the Holy of Holidays. Right, So Christmas is a whole

720
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: different animal when it comes to the NFL. So you're

721
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: coming off Monday Night football. It's a short week coming

722
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: off a tough loss, and then you're kind of losing

723
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: a day per se in the middle of the week

724
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: in terms of preparation. How much of a monkey wrench

725
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: does that throw into this week for the Colts when

726
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: they got to have a win against the Jacksonville Jackyards.

727
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: That's it is a monkey wrench right in a short

728
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: week and you only got you know, and that means you're,

729
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: you know, on Tuesday, you're getting up and you you're

730
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: working after a tough loss on Monday night.

731
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: Yet Wednesday maybe like combining days at your dutys and

732
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: things like that, you.

733
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Really are because usually it's you know, it's base run

734
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: based pass on Wednesday, it's third down and it's you know,

735
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: sub blitz on on Thursdays, and then it's red zone

736
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: on Friday. So you're gonna have to intertwine something there

737
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: because you're you're missing a day. But yeah, I honestly

738
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: I didn't know that they completely shut down on Christmas

739
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: whenn't that has to be somewhat kind of new.

740
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I think I think, well, here's let

741
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: me double back. I mean, they have to give the

742
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: players a day off. Yeah, so with Christmas being the

743
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: week that makes it, they're giving them Thursday off instead

744
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: of the normal Tuesday following on Monday.

745
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense.

746
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: So that wasn't that was unusual for you to have

747
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Christmas totally off.

748
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember a lot, really, I don't think. I

749
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: think we came in the afternoon, but then we played

750
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: on Christmas my last year.

751
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and out Arizona.

752
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: Maybe that had something to do with it.

753
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that makes sense because you have to

754
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: have a day off a week, so you're not gonna

755
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: do it today because you got to get in and

756
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: watch the film.

757
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: You're you're missing a day. So yeah, that makes a

758
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: lot of sense. But that's funny.

759
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: So you would still come in on Christmas?

760
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd come in the afternoon. You get like morning

761
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: with your kids, I think, yeah, at least with Chuck

762
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: for sure. Really, Yeah, was that hard?

763
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be hard to disengage from.

764
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's two different mentalities right there. Yeah, I

765
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: mean that's the warm and fuzzy. Oh and we just

766
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, Santa just came and ate the cookies to

767
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: now I'm worrying about Blitz pick up here, right, I

768
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: mean that's two different dynamics.

769
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the way it was.

770
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: That's a mind blank right there.

771
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the life in the NFL, that's for sure.

772
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I did not know that it was challenging. Yeah,

773
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: I think I could be completely wrong, because I'm wrong.

774
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: About a lot, no, if you say so.

775
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: But I remember coming in on Christmas. Maybe not, maybe

776
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: we would change it, Okay, we'd probably maybe we would

777
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: do that where it'd be the day off. But I

778
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: remember at least a few years coming in. I mean, yeah,

779
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: we played on Christmas in twenty one down in Arizona.

780
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it is even on Thanksgiving. Like you said,

781
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: it's tough to kind of balance the family as it

782
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: is throughout the whole NFL season and balancing the family

783
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: life and balancing and you know, a job, you know,

784
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: a job playing foot ball. But uh, but you get

785
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: used to it at the same time, you know, you know,

786
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: the whole family gets used to it.

787
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Do you like NFL now playing on on Christmas Day?

788
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, if they can figure out a way

789
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: to play on a Wednesday, will or a Thursday, we

790
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: know they can definitely play on Friday. I mean, as

791
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: a former player, where do you stand on the NFL

792
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: kind of taking over Christmas from the NBA.

793
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I wouldn't want to play on

794
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Christmas personally, right, Like, you know, get young kids, and

795
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: it's stunk to miss it be in Arizona.

796
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's stunk.

797
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, those years you don't get back.

798
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: There's only so.

799
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: Many that they're you know, they're all in on Christmas,

800
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: right as we know, it's magic of Christmas. Yeah, so

801
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: we you know, missing that stinks. And yeah, you know,

802
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: if it was up to me, we'd play at one

803
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: o'clock on Sunday, you know, Oh my god.

804
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: We have agreed on a lot of things on this podcast,

805
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: but that that's probably where we are most in unison.

806
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: As we've learned, you know, as you are too, Matt.

807
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: We're very routine based people. So if I can, I

808
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: just don't like to stay up late.

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: No I don't either.

810
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, my hit my head hit the pill of

811
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the other night at four forty five, and that ain't cool.

812
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: That's the morning that ain't cool.

813
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, no it's not. It's it's and after

814
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: the way it went too exactly, that's what stinks about it.

815
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, you got a home primetime game. It doesn't

816
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: go that way.

817
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: And people don't care about us, No, they don't. You know,

818
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: we just want their primetime ball. And I get it.

819
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: I get it.

820
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: Primetime ball is awesome.

821
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: It is.

822
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: But you know, on the back end, it's tough. The

823
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: back end, it's tough.

824
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: But but yeah, obviously the challenges of of playing on

825
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: Christmas are tough for the families and and things like that.

826
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: But the NFL is going to play you whenever they

827
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: can to get you on it whatever. Stream of realize

828
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: that's it.

829
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: I mean, what is Netflix?

830
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Are they?

831
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: Are they on Netflix?

832
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: Where I think I'm right about this. There's two on

833
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Netflix and one on Prime?

834
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Is there three game? It's crazy?

835
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: So now you have to have two different streaming services

836
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: on the services, I should say, in the same day.

837
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're probably gonna get email this week that

838
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: Netflix just went up another dollar.

839
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: For YouTube TVs now ninety eight dollars after you know,

840
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: five years ago it was like thirty something. But I digress.

841
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: That's the way it's going, man. Yeah. I mean, just

842
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: to watch college football, you have to have Peacock and

843
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus and it was like, HBO, man, now we

844
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: have yeah, well now we have these college football games

845
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: on TNT and Turner and all this stuff. But anyways,

846
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: we're getting off topic.

847
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: All right.

848
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: We always close out the podcast with a fun little

849
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: bit we call it you don't know Jack, all right,

850
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: get to know Jack Doyle a little bit better, more

851
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: so than him just being the two time pro bowler

852
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts, former number eighty four. So this

853
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: week's a layup. All right, here's the personal question we

854
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: have for you. It's Christmas themed, Jack Doyle. Give us

855
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas or holiday tradition growing up, or perhaps

856
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: one that's still going.

857
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

858
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: For me, it was always just the simple things, Matt.

859
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: You know it was you know, it was going to

860
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: church with the family. It was the excitement of you know,

861
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: you know, me and I have three sisters, of us

862
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: siblings like all sleeping in the basement all together and

863
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: not sleeping on our rooms, and you know, waking up

864
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: at five a m. And you know, our parents telling

865
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: us to go back to bed any time. Yet you

866
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: know they're probably partying the night before, you know, get

867
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Speaker 2: back to bed.

868
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Christmas house, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

869
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Go celebrate go celebrate. They're saying, they're saying, get back

870
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: to you know, get back to bed. But just the

871
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: joy and and and sharing that with your siblings is

872
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: something I'll always cherish.

873
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: And uh.

874
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: And then you have your own kids and you get

875
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: to see them do it with theirs. So yeah, just

876
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: just the simple things about Christmas is what I always enjoyed.

877
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: I got to ask you on future shows, what was

878
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: like growing up with your sisters? Oh, yeah, that's that's

879
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: We'll save that.

880
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: We'll save that. Ye save that, man.

881
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're you're living right there. Yeah,

882
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you've got some stories to tell. I didn't grow up

883
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: with girls, and now I got one at home, and

884
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: it is eye opening. I can tell you that. It's

885
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: a different world, is I mean, I'll tell you what.

886
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: That's a whole different set of problems right there. I

887
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: can guarantee you that. Now, what was your favorite gift

888
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid from Santa or perhaps from

889
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: from mom and dad.

890
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's easy.

891
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: I got a bike when I was probably I don't know, eleven,

892
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: eleven twelve. It was like at that age where I

893
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: could like start riding my bike to my friend's house,

894
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: even if they lived.

895
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: You know, even if I had a cross like huge

896
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: deal tenh Street or you know, across.

897
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: Somewhat of a busy street right, and I got a

898
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: huffy little I don't know BMX bike.

899
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 3: It had the pegs on it. Oh, and I'll never forget.

900
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I was said, if you didn't have the pegs, you

901
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: were not cool.

902
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: L seven.

903
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I was.

904
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I loved it, and I

905
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: will never forget. So I I remember going out it

906
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: was snow all over you know the street. It was

907
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: you know, a white Christmas yep, and going out there

908
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: and trying to hop, you know, riding on the back

909
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: pegs and I'm like going on ice right and I'm

910
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: riding you know, down the street. It's probably you know,

911
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: twenty degrees Christmas morning. And then I tried to put

912
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: my feet on the front pig.

913
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: Completely hate it. Yeah, it.

914
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Was almost like you know Christmas story, Red rider Baby.

915
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: I got the gift and I hurt myself And I

916
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: remember coming up and like not telling my parents about it,

917
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: making sure I didn't rip my pants because you know,

918
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: we're getting ready to go to church or whatever. It's

919
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: like it's like, all right, don't tell you too. Yeah,

920
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna take the bike. So let's let's get in

921
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: the car and say the pew Right. It's one of

922
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: my It was my favorite gift ever. I love that

923
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: bike and I rode the heck out of it again.

924
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: You still have it or is it in storage?

925
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: It got stolen?

926
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: Got stolen? You didn't lock it up? No, you drive

927
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: it to ride it to like dairy Queen.

928
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 3: David Page's house.

929
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

930
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, David, it's not his fault. I left

931
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: it out front. But yeah, like I said, it was.

932
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I was at the age we could. I had like

933
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: five four or five buddies that lived close. We were

934
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: at each other's houses all the time, just biker gang

935
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: going from one house to the other.

936
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: After the parents got tired of us.

937
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: And then and then I left it at David Page's

938
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: house and uh, my other buddy, Matt Cann his bike

939
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: was sitting right next to it, and just my bike

940
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: got taken.

941
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guarantee you can find that thing on

942
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: craigsli side.

943
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: I know. Oh we stopped, Yeah, we stopped some kids

944
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: in the street being like, hey, where'd you get that

945
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: huffy man?

946
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but where did you get that Huffy, but yeah,

947
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: that's you.

948
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Know, like skid marks are like an engraving on it,

949
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: undeath the seat or something.

950
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it taught me some responsibility. Take care of your stuff.

951
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: Take care of your stuff.

952
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Jack all me life lessons with Jack Doyle. The great

953
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Huffey got jackson Oh man, I guarantee somewhere that's in

954
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: a pawn shop. I bet it's like in Montana or

955
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: something that's moved all over the country. But the greatest

956
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: gift that Jack Doyle ever received on Christmas, my friend,

957
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: you were a gift to not only myself but Colts fans.

958
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much doing this podcast all year long.

959
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: Thanks, I appreciate you man.

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00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Merry Christmas, everybody. That's Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor.

961
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Speaker 1: We will come back, hope with better news next week.

962
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: The Colts are going to break a five game losing

963
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: skid and looking to avoid being swept this season by

964
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. We will come back, get you setting

965
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: ready to go for Week eighteen. We'll bridge the gap

966
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: between Christmas and New Year's But again, as always, thank

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00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: you for watching, thank you for listening. We'll talk to

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00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: you next week here the Colts Podcast channel. So long, everybody,

969
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: Happy holidays.