WEBVTT - 12_12 The Break.mp3 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:14.560 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:16.720 Are you ready for a break? Yes? 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.599 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:19.400 Absolutely? 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.759 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:25.880 It's time for the Break. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:31.360 On Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Were on Break with Mbar Garcia, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.800 Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.480 It is Thursday, December twelfth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.520 episode number eighty four. Welcome to latest edition of The Break. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.760 We are live from that WBC Mortgage studios at thus 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.800 are presented by LGLG as the world's number one O 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.000 the TV brand for eleven years and counting. See why 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.080 at LG dot Com, Fort slash O, led Evo. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.200 How is everybody doing. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.120 A episode eighty fix? Have we done eighty four shows? 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.200 Yes? This year? 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:01.840 This season? 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:02.480 This season. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:02.800 Yeah. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.959 We usually get into the one twenti ist range by 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.000 the time it's all said and done. Now this year 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.000 may be a little less because we won't have the 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.000 full week of shows in January. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.760 What why is it draft shows? 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.080 Yeah? 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.000 Well I'll set with more draft shows. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.880 Yeah it works, but but no, we we We definitely 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.920 are moving in that way because it also, like you 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.679 gotta remember, it goes to the league here, so it'll 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.000 go into March before we will flip to the next 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.160 season of shows. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.520 So so yeah, we'll get we get close to it. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.000 Got this figured out, he does. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.959 I'll be doing it a while. Man, it's the season twenty. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.760 We've been doing this for a long time, you know. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:37.600 Season twenty. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.080 Got to say happy birthday to my guy Brian brought us. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.600 Thank you very much, appreciate that. Guys, thank you very kind, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.360 thank you very kind. Thank you you were this past 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:46.960 weekend though too right, Happy birthday. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.720 Yeah, we didn't get to say that on air because 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.000 he was We didn't do a show obviously on Sunday 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:51.720 when it was your birthday. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.240 But happy belated birthday, missus Garcia and. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.680 Then seem to be yours. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.559 Yeah, yeah later this summer is Yeah, it's funny. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.640 We had it right after it. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.960 We all was your January fifth, you're not part of the. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.200 It has to be well, maybe it was yesterday, David 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:09.280 Helman is Saturday. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.120 Saturday. We had to run there, remember that. I always 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.040 remember Derek like taking everybody to lunch and they'll go 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.240 any like happy birthday. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.600 I'm too big for that. Man, I can't afflct. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:18.920 I know. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.400 It's it's funny how that it seems like it grows 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:21.880 and grows, and. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.960 My wife's like, save your money for that college student. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:24.760 We have money. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.040 Oh yeah, I saw some clips about that Columbia. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.000 Let's just yeah, as as Brian says, I'll give my 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.560 cash yapp. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.320 Feel free to send me if you want to. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.400 Why. It's why we all have like eight jobs right now, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.680 just every one of our podcasts. Please watch. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.919 I think about kids, and they get more expensive every 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.400 year from the time they're. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.920 Born all the way till noted. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.680 Yeah about that. It's funny, though, what do. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.520 You think I haven't gotten pregnant again. Yeah, I'm just 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.040 looking at the numbers. I'm like, because if you do 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.040 something for one, you gotta do it for both. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:02:59.280 You know you're pregnant. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.760 What I said, that's why IV. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.720 What how much this figure? 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:16.480 Breaking news here on the break listening, He'd be like, what. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.160 It's so funny how they figure out how to like 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.920 go have dinner on you now, and then they'll be 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.800 standing in line to pay the bill and they're like, hey, dad, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.360 can you send money? For me to they've already eaten. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.760 They've already like, I mean, what are you going ready 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.280 to go? And goes no, we're getting ready to pay. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.079 Can you please help me save me some money? That 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.160 technology has ruined me in that way. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.120 Literally money You got to send money? 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.320 Yeah, you could just hit a button and send money. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.720 And it's crazy. But he's figured out how to wait 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.200 till he gets in line, the smart man to pay. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.240 It's like, hey, Dad, I sure the bill is And 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.000 then I'm like, okay. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.120 It's that intelligence. I got him to Texas. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:55.880 Smart guy. All right, let's jump in. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.360 We got a lot to talk about today. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.760 We we're going to get into some injury dates, particularly 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.120 on Cooper Bebe. We'll talk about about where he is, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.120 and then we're gonna talk a little bit about special teams. Yesterday, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.280 Mani Ouarrier had his first session with the media following 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:17.880 the botched punt from last game and some interesting thoughts there. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.599 And then we're gonna talk about the Carolina defense and 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.440 how it matches up with this Cowboys offense again. This unit, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.680 as we talked about yesterday, the offense has some interesting things. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.480 This unit, Oh my gosh, like that all the numbers 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.039 say that you should be able to do a lot 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.240 of good things against them. But we'll talk about that 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.279 and dive into some of the players that you should 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.839 be aware of. Let's start first, though, with Cooper Beby. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:44.360 He mispracticed yesterday with a concussion. Obviously, with a concussion, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.880 it's probably not likely in a short week. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.000 That he plays, I would guess. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.400 But I want to focus a little more on another 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.360 like an offshoot of that, which is brock Hoffman, who 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.040 has played, who played center and replacement and replacement of 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.320 BB this last game. My question for you guys is 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.080 do you think at this point, from what you've seen 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.240 this season, because he's had a pretty good amount of 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.400 playing time, you think he's a better center or a 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:07.960 better guard. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.560 That's a tough one. I think. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.680 I think it's kind of the same. I don't necessarily 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.400 see a major difference unless you do. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:21.000 Brian. Now, you know what's funny was were you surprised 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.960 how quickly that competition ended? 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:24.480 Yes? 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:25.680 At training camp? 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:26.119 Yes? 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:27.000 Did it end quick? 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:27.240 Though? 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.000 I felt like we were like two or three weeks 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.640 in a camp and we're like, Yo, Hoffman might win 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.000 this thing, And I just kind of flipped around. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.200 I kind of felt like I felt like that there 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.080 was maybe like two weeks and then we were getting 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.360 into it and it was like, but I was I'm 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.560 not gonna lie to you. I was on board because 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:51.280 I wanted to see BB play center. Yeah, I misevaluated Hoffman. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.080 I thought Hoffman for one or two games get you through. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.840 I got to the point where I've started to ask 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.920 questions on these podcasts I'm on about do you feel 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.920 like I think I asked you guys this question. Does 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.160 does does Hoffman and and say Basses play make you 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.960 not want to think about a guard early in this draft? 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.359 You know? Yes, for example, you'll know the name Banks, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.200 Texas tackle who a lot of people, and he won 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.839 the Lombardi Award last night. But you know, we've talked 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.160 about Banks being potentially a guard. I don't know, you 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.640 might think he's a tackle. But does it do you 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.440 feel like that if you're picking at eleven or twelve, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.760 that you would take a guard there? Or does BB 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.880 or excuse me, has Hoffman made you feel like that 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.280 you're you don't need to draft that guy there at 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.080 that spot, that you could draft something else? But I 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.599 kind of felt like though maybe maybe I'm wrong about that, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.640 but I kind of felt like the BB thing. I thought, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.880 all of a sudden, it was like Hoffman was out. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.440 I just remember Bebe couldn't snap the ball for like 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:57.800 two and a half weeks, and it was like, Okay, 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.240 I think Hoffman might win this thing. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.040 Okay, and we were talking about some of those problems. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.279 And then all of a sudden Bebe learned how to 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.039 snap the ball and he was the center. Yeah, you know, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.000 it happened very It did happen quick. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.960 That's that's that. No, No, that's you. That's fair. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.280 It could have been perception, but it did. It felt 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.280 like to me it was kind of a shell game 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.360 from the beginning, like oh, Hoffman's gonna he's the starter 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.800 entering camp. But it was just kind of like it 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.720 was always gonna be Bb. That's how it felt. And 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.680 maybe that's why I didn't. I didn't see what you 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.640 think of it from the way you you thought of it. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.680 I just always thought, eventually Bbe's gonna be the guy. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.880 I kind of feel like that if Zach Martin was 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.480 not playing right guard this year, say Zach Martin would 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.960 have retired last year, I think you would have seen 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.720 Haffman at center and BB at right guard. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.440 Yeah, and that's where actually, that's where I was going 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.960 with the question is if if you think Hoffman is 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.360 as good a center as he is a guard, is 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.960 BB then a better guard than he is a center, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.680 in which case maybe they flip if you if you 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.560 go into next year, or even as if BB comes 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.080 back this year. I don't know if they'd make that 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.320 change just like the year. But at some point do 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.480 you see that kind of flip where Bbe now moves 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:02.960 out to guard. 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:03.560 I'll tell you this. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.920 I've started getting active in my in my draft group 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.040 chats again over the course of the last month, and 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.680 as we take you this long yeahs, as we kind 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.280 of just bs and everything, especially talking about last year's class, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.760 there are a lot of people that are like, so, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.520 why are the Cowboys playing Cooper b B at center? 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.000 He's like, yeah, it's working out, but why is he 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:20.760 not playing at guard? 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:21.080 Yes? 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.640 Hey, And so it always kind of makes me think, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:24.960 in the back of my mind, maybe he would be 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:25.480 a better guard. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.160 But we can only see what we've seen. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:28.800 When I saw at Kansas State was a guy that 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.360 was absolutely nasty at guard, and I've seen a guy 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.720 at center who's been consistent for a rookie. He's been consistent. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.960 Is he still learning the position? I think so absolutely, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.120 But he's been consistent, So I don't know. I would 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:40.840 like to see both. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.079 Why if Phoebe was healthy, why would I want to see? 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.400 I mean, and I'm saying this, I'm asking, okay, a doga. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.720 I see that's Steel's played well enough. But there's a 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.800 side of me that kind of wants to see guide 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.520 and play right tackle me too, but also put BB 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.719 at right guard and put Howp in it center. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.440 Just be cooking just to see, just for like three 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.000 on this. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:07.360 Site, three games. But I but I'm not I'll tell 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.600 you what. I don't want to do anything with Steel 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.079 right now because I feel like Steele is playing pretty 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.959 well for you. I mean, he's it's it's there was 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.440 some times where you know him and Martin it was 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.600 a struggle over there. But I want to see. I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.160 wonder if you would see if you did, because I 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.079 don't want to sit there and say, okay, now Steel, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.160 go play left, go play left tackle and then we'll 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.080 see how this works. But there's I would not be 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:38.080 opposed to like seeing that combination with Hoffman at center, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.360 b B at guard and guiding it right right tackle. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.120 I think this team is one more loss away from 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.760 starting a toy with those kinds of things. And Steven 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.960 Jones said yesterday he was asked, Okay, hey, when do 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.240 you start thinking about personnel changes, you know, just to 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.240 see what you got. He's like, right now, we're playing 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.600 to win. When that changes, you'll notice it, and so 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.520 he left the door open for that. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:58.760 Well, I guess that might. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:09:59.720 Be one loss away from that. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.040 Yeah, yeah, Brian, I look at that. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.560 And going back to your question about what you thought 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.160 about the no, but think about what you were talking 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:06.760 about a guard. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.040 I don't think i've seen anything. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.880 I have seen things that make me question whether I 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.920 would draft a guard early. I have not seen anything 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.120 that makes me say I wouldn't draft a tackle early. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.880 So going back to let's say Banks, if you think 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.000 he's going to be a guard, I won't. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.000 I don't necessarily think i'd take a first round pick 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:23.319 on him. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.480 If I have a bona fide tackle that I feel 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.760 really good about and I'm up at eleven twelve and 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.440 that guy's there throwing the guard up there. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.440 This is I don't know yeah, and I like, I 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.320 don't know how you feel about this. I kind of 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.760 feel like that maybe Banks would be this this tackle group. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.559 When you watch him and when we talk about him, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 it's not going to have the same tone that we 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.400 had last year about this group. I think there's a 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.360 lot more questions about this group playing. And I think 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.640 one of the best ones, the Simmons from Ohio State 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.559 who has a knee injury, I think he's going to 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:56.920 be I think he would have been one of the best. Well, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.200 I think he'd have been maybe number one on this 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.120 on the in my opinion on this board for tackle. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.319 But I think I'm I'm I don't know, because I'm 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.680 trying to feel like, did Hoffman do enough at right 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.000 guard to make me not want to take to draft? 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.599 And you might think Banks is a tackle only I 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.160 don't know that. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.840 No, No, I think you could play either. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:17.160 Yeah. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:17.880 I think that's so. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.240 See that's what I'm saying. I mean, do you you 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.040 know there's a couple of positions now where I'm like, Okay, well, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.680 maybe I've seen enough. I mean, running back might be 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.360 another one too, where you've seen enough with Rico Daddle 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.040 this you're like, Okay, maybe I don't have to eleven 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.080 or twelve maybef Genti's there the running back from Boising. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.280 Maybe I don't have to do that because of Daddle 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.240 the way he's playing. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.760 This conversation is making me feel so uneasy because the 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.959 fact that you guys are starting to get comfortable with 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.959 some of the guys on the offensive line, like, it 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.640 just makes me because of the trauma I carry. And 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.200 it's been so long, because if you think about it, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.760 I mean from the time I started, which was right 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.800 before the beginning of the career of Dak where you 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:08.640 had a pretty solid line. Zach Martin he's like the 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.200 last piece of that line that was here initially. So 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.880 it's crazy and to me, and this is just the 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.760 course of the NFL and what happens, you know, players 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.560 retire or they leave or move on or whatever. But 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.560 to think now that you're gonna have to find that 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:33.480 confidence in five guys that you can fully trust and 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.480 move on from the well, what about injuries because recently, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.320 in the last few years, it's always somebody dealing with 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.280 some kind of injury and going back to the draft 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.800 and having to rely, you know, rely on drafting, and 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.600 they've hit the nail or what is it, the nail 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.760 on the head when it comes to drafting offensive players 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.200 early on in the draft. But it's just hearing all 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.679 of this, I'm just like, man, this is pretty wild. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.520 And also when you talk about the different combinations, it 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.199 makes me think, when would. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.480 They actually do that? 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.920 Aside from these last few games where they could maybe 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.720 if they're after that percentage of chance that you have 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.360 left for the playoffs, after that's out of the question, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.000 these different combinations, when do you expect the Cowboys to 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.240 actually see that? Because sometimes even at training can when 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.079 you talk about these different guys, I feel like, okay, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.560 that's the right time to maybe test different things. But 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.640 you don't tend to see them shuffle people around that 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.880 much unless someone gets hurt and you just are forced to. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:44.920 So I don't know, this interesting conversation when it comes 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.120 to all these different players. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.640 Would you take an offense or defensive player if you're 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:55.240 picking in the top five offense, how about you, Derek? 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.760 Honestly, it depends on the play. I don't know. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.880 If I could say, I'll tell you this it would 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.959 be a tackle, an offensive tackle, a defensive tackle or 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.000 defensive end. Probably, yeah, think or maybe I wouldn't take 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.360 a line back of that. One of those three is 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.200 probably what I would take. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:18.240 My answers, yes, my answers, yes, Yeah, I would think. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.000 I don't think they're in a position right now to 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.240 not take the best player available. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.000 See, yeah, I kind of agree. It's kind of where 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.120 that's kind of where I hope this thing goes. Yeah, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.760 I hope it's I hope it's if you if somehow 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.600 and you know you're going to really have to It's possible, though. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.520 I mean, you just don't know how these games are 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.480 going to play out now. But if you somehow are 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.760 picking in the top eight, you know, where would you 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.400 you would? I think you want to just take the 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:44.320 best player there. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.080 But there are some positions that are off limits, right, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.440 like quarterback limits, right. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.840 I mean, I'm just saying like, there are some positions that. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.040 Off be honest with you. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.440 After after that contract call, I. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.880 Was like, the your girls, Like, I mean there, but 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:02.360 that's the thing. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.400 There is a conversation to be had just from a standpoint, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.400 and it's not about Dak as much as it is 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.400 when's the next time you think you're going to be 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.040 in a position to be able to draft a quarterback high. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:11.760 I don't know, so do. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.720 You take one like Atlanta did to protect myself for 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:15.240 the future. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.520 You know, why are we smoking here now? 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.960 Because this conversation it just took a whole different Yeah. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.840 Well the thing about it is, I mean, as a fan, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.280 I kind of and I kind of knew this going on. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.840 You know, Steven Jones kind of talked about the plan 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.280 for twenty twenty five, right, didn't he yesterday a little 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.240 bit about like, you know, hey, we're up against it. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.040 Don't expect you know, Okay, We'll get ready for the 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.880 second purge of players that you found. Get ready for 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.600 Jordan Louis to be gone. Get ready for oh so 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.880 Diggy'szua to be gone. Get ready for all that depth 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:50.880 that you know that was playing games for you this 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.600 year to be gone. You know. Now we're I mean, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.520 do you feel you feel like, okay, if we're going 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.080 to have another year of what we just had in 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.240 twenty twenty four, you know, and not replace anybody except 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.440 through the draft and college free agency. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.440 I mean, you need guys to play immediately in the draft. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.960 See That's what I'm saying. Though you might you might 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.360 have you might be back to talking about picking a 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.960 quarterback in the top eight again the next year. Yeah, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.000 twenty twenty five. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.320 Yeah, I made a dash over to the league meetings 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.880 yesterday where we talked to Stephen Jones, and while we 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.280 were kind of waiting on everything I had, I'd met 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.040 a personnel executive in the AFC and we were just 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.400 kind of talking draft and everything. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.320 He expects the Cowways take Genty. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.920 He expects there to be a running back, just because 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.600 he was like, they have offensive line, they have defensive line, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:40.000 they have corners, they have they have a linebackers. He's 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.400 like they are in a position where they are one 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.720 playmaker away to be able to make some things happen. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.120 He's like, genty makes the most sense. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.480 Yeah, that's before that's before you think about the free 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.680 agency they may lose this year. Yeah, Like I think, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.280 before you think that, you might be able to say 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.040 some of those areas you have something some players. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.400 But yeah, I would be totally elated if they take 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.760 that kid. Yeah, no doubt I would be elated. And 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.560 you know he he does. He makes a lot of sense. 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.119 But I also think about too that because to me, 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.040 I'm trying to not in the first round. I am 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.880 trying to get the safest player on that board. I'm 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.879 trying to get the safest the guy that has the 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.879 least amount of holes that I know can help me 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.760 in play. And it might only be for five years 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.359 with that guy, you know. But if I'm the general manager, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.280 I'm thinking, well, I might only have two years with 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.680 this job. If you know any you know here, it's 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.720 a little bit different. But I'm kind of thinking of like, Okay, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.600