WEBVTT - Growing a Weed Business 0:00:15.316 --> 0:00:28.636 Pushkin. I'm Jacob Goldstein and this is What's Your Problem, 0:00:28.756 --> 0:00:31.556 the show where entrepreneurs and engineers talk about the world 0:00:31.596 --> 0:00:34.316 they're going to build once they solve a few problems. 0:00:35.396 --> 0:00:38.836 My guests today are Raft and Joy Hollingsworth, the brother 0:00:38.876 --> 0:00:42.796 and sister team that runs the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company aka 0:00:42.956 --> 0:00:48.556 thhc Co. Joy and Raft run a farm in Washington 0:00:48.676 --> 0:00:51.836 State where they grow and sell about six hundred thousand 0:00:51.916 --> 0:00:55.436 dollars of marijuana a YEurope. Their problem, how do you 0:00:55.476 --> 0:00:58.636 help more black people get into the legal weed business. 0:00:59.156 --> 0:01:01.236 They've been working on this problem for a long time. 0:01:01.796 --> 0:01:04.556 It started about a decade ago, right after Washington State 0:01:04.676 --> 0:01:08.436 legalized recreational marijuana, and Joy and Raft decided to start 0:01:08.436 --> 0:01:12.796 their own farm from scratch in rural Washington State, despite 0:01:12.836 --> 0:01:17.156 having lived their whole lives in downtown Seattle at the time. 0:01:17.236 --> 0:01:19.636 Their dad had just retired after a career at the 0:01:19.676 --> 0:01:22.716 Seattle Parks Department, and he put up a big chunk 0:01:22.716 --> 0:01:25.676 of his retirement savings to fund the farm. Joy and 0:01:25.756 --> 0:01:28.036 Ralf told me, like a lot of entrepreneurs when they 0:01:28.036 --> 0:01:30.836 started out, they really didn't know what they were doing. 0:01:31.516 --> 0:01:33.276 You got to be a little crazy. You know how 0:01:33.316 --> 0:01:36.076 they say entrepreneurs, you jump off a cliff and you're 0:01:36.076 --> 0:01:37.836 going to figure out how to build your plane on 0:01:37.876 --> 0:01:40.636 the way down. That's what it kind of felt like. Yeah, 0:01:40.716 --> 0:01:43.916 and who started driving out found the property on Craigslist. 0:01:44.196 --> 0:01:47.436 It was six acre plot of land in Mason County. 0:01:47.556 --> 0:01:49.916 You know, we see this land, we like it. I say, 0:01:49.956 --> 0:01:54.196 I'll take it. And the real estate agent, Larry at 0:01:54.196 --> 0:01:55.956 the time, said, okay, we'll meet me at the Mason 0:01:55.956 --> 0:01:59.076 County Title Office. Okay, great, Larry. So we go down 0:01:59.116 --> 0:02:03.596 there and I had a Safeway bag, like a paper 0:02:03.596 --> 0:02:05.996 bag full of cash. Oh my god, we're gonna pay 0:02:06.036 --> 0:02:09.316 for this land. And we were so like EVA at 0:02:09.356 --> 0:02:11.676 the time, we didn't want to tell anybody our plans. 0:02:12.276 --> 0:02:14.556 What are these two black eyes from Seattle want with 0:02:14.596 --> 0:02:19.596 six acres off of this private dirt road by the prison? 0:02:19.836 --> 0:02:23.356 What do they want? It was ridiculous in hindsight, But 0:02:23.836 --> 0:02:27.196 I mean, you're telling it as as funny, right, But like, 0:02:28.356 --> 0:02:31.716 were there any other black people there? Was that scary? 0:02:31.916 --> 0:02:34.476 Was it fine? Like? How was that part of that? 0:02:35.116 --> 0:02:38.516 There's no other black people out there? And the neighbors 0:02:38.516 --> 0:02:40.476 have been really nice to us to this day. They've 0:02:40.476 --> 0:02:44.196 been great stewarts as neighbors, and so how did you 0:02:44.236 --> 0:02:46.596 get from there to hear? Right? So you got your farm, 0:02:46.916 --> 0:02:50.876 you get to know the neighbors. Kaus. It was chaotic. 0:02:51.276 --> 0:02:53.876 We had a fence, we had cameras, we had a 0:02:53.876 --> 0:02:57.156 couple of buildings, but the rest was just we're in 0:02:57.196 --> 0:03:00.436 the open field. We don't really know what's going on. 0:03:00.756 --> 0:03:03.516 We're gonna grow plants. We're gonna not only we're gonna 0:03:03.556 --> 0:03:07.156 grow plants, We're gonna grow four thousand plants in the dirt. 0:03:07.436 --> 0:03:10.676 We buy dirt from this guy down the road because 0:03:10.676 --> 0:03:12.716 we heard from a friend that he has good dirt. 0:03:13.396 --> 0:03:16.596 And it's like landscaping there. It's not even dirt you grow. 0:03:16.756 --> 0:03:20.236 We like plants. It so like you bought the wrong dirt. 0:03:20.436 --> 0:03:23.476 You bought the wrong dirt. Yeah, that sounds like a problem. 0:03:23.476 --> 0:03:25.956 This guy would be like seven thousand dollars. It was 0:03:25.996 --> 0:03:28.596 a problem. I mean, there was just so many different things. 0:03:29.116 --> 0:03:32.276 We're freaking out. I moved to the farm. I'm living 0:03:32.316 --> 0:03:35.476 in the construction trailer that we have, you know, put 0:03:35.516 --> 0:03:38.116 on the farm as our office space. I'm sleeping in 0:03:38.156 --> 0:03:42.316 the office. We hire a guy on um Craigslist. We 0:03:42.396 --> 0:03:45.756 hire everybody that first year from Joy tell me, Yeah, 0:03:46.036 --> 0:03:48.396 it's been all Rafts so far. Tell me what what 0:03:49.636 --> 0:03:53.076 listening to? Yeah, No, I'm I'm sorry. We're still on 0:03:53.156 --> 0:03:54.876 year one and I think you want to get from 0:03:54.916 --> 0:03:58.556 year one now, So Joy, you pick up the story here. No, 0:03:58.636 --> 0:04:00.476 I love it, but Joy, you pick up the story. 0:04:00.556 --> 0:04:03.156 Get me over the next nine years. Here. I'm listening 0:04:03.196 --> 0:04:05.516 to year one right now, Jacob, and I'm like, bro, 0:04:05.996 --> 0:04:11.276 we'll get us to twenty twenty one. Lad. Hey, Joy, 0:04:11.556 --> 0:04:14.356 you got it, you got it. Joy, this is your moment. 0:04:14.356 --> 0:04:17.436 I want to hear you're good. I'm sorry, No, I 0:04:17.556 --> 0:04:19.516 mean it. I mean it. Joy, you tell me the 0:04:19.516 --> 0:04:21.956 story of the next nine years. Raff is right. It 0:04:22.036 --> 0:04:25.276 was such a learning piece and a learning curve with everything, 0:04:25.316 --> 0:04:27.916 and it felt like an experiment for year one, and 0:04:27.956 --> 0:04:30.676 we didn't know what we were doing wrong. We just 0:04:30.756 --> 0:04:32.716 kind of like it just felt like it was this 0:04:32.796 --> 0:04:37.476 whole entire thing of solving problems one after the other. 0:04:37.876 --> 0:04:40.396 So every year it felt like we got better. It 0:04:40.476 --> 0:04:44.836 just kept continuing to get better and better until that 0:04:44.956 --> 0:04:48.876 moment right in twenty seventeen, which I think switched us 0:04:48.956 --> 0:04:51.716 when we were on and got to have dinner with 0:04:51.916 --> 0:04:55.356 Anthony Bourdain and crew. And that was really the year 0:04:55.516 --> 0:04:58.316 that really, you know, put us on the map for 0:04:58.356 --> 0:05:00.836 so many different reasons. And just to be clear, here, 0:05:00.876 --> 0:05:05.476 a producer for Anthony Bourdain's CNN show read an article 0:05:05.596 --> 0:05:08.636 about your farm in a in a Seattle newspaper and 0:05:08.676 --> 0:05:11.276 then like a month later there's a TV crew filming 0:05:11.316 --> 0:05:13.596 you at the farm and you're having dinner with Anthony 0:05:13.636 --> 0:05:16.716 Bourdaine and you wind up on his show on CNN. 0:05:17.116 --> 0:05:20.836 What does that do for your business? Right after that show, 0:05:21.356 --> 0:05:23.876 all these people hit us up and said, hey, we'd 0:05:23.916 --> 0:05:26.036 love to buy your product. Can you ship us a pound? 0:05:26.116 --> 0:05:28.516 I live in Texas, I live in California. It's like, no, 0:05:28.676 --> 0:05:31.596 that's actually illegal. We can't do that. And so it's 0:05:31.636 --> 0:05:34.596 hard to monetize that piece when you can't be close 0:05:34.636 --> 0:05:38.996 to the consumer. But on that branding piece, absolutely absolutely, 0:05:39.156 --> 0:05:41.396 it gave us a lot of credibility in spaces that 0:05:41.476 --> 0:05:45.956 we weren't really we didn't know existed. So let's just 0:05:46.036 --> 0:05:48.916 talk about the business today, like sort of what it is, 0:05:48.956 --> 0:05:52.916 how it works. I pulled it up on Google Maps 0:05:52.956 --> 0:05:56.796 on the like satellite images one. If you just Google map, 0:05:56.836 --> 0:06:00.476 Hollingsworth cannabis company. It comes up and like I'm zooming in. 0:06:00.796 --> 0:06:03.316 But first of all, it is clearly like way out 0:06:03.356 --> 0:06:05.236 in the middle of nowhere, right, it's just trees and 0:06:05.356 --> 0:06:07.636 farms and what is that maybe a creek all around. 0:06:07.916 --> 0:06:11.196 But if I zoom in more like I can actually 0:06:11.316 --> 0:06:14.676 see like it looks like mostly greenhouses and that's where 0:06:14.676 --> 0:06:17.596 you grow the weed, grow the cannabis. Correct. So we 0:06:17.636 --> 0:06:21.076 have eight greenhouses. We have three shipping containers, and we 0:06:21.116 --> 0:06:25.156 just modify them to the buildings like wired and with doors. 0:06:25.196 --> 0:06:26.676 So there, I mean they feel like you know, steel 0:06:26.676 --> 0:06:30.556 frame buildings. But then we have a converted construction trailer 0:06:30.796 --> 0:06:33.636 and that's where we do all the processing and it's renovated, hardwood, 0:06:33.636 --> 0:06:36.276 floors is painted. It's nice. Tell me about the plants. 0:06:36.596 --> 0:06:42.036 They're living, breathing beings. They are very much alive, and 0:06:42.436 --> 0:06:44.756 at one point in time we'll have two thousand, one 0:06:44.796 --> 0:06:49.436 hundred plants alive growing and it's like it's a symphony. 0:06:49.716 --> 0:06:54.276 It's beautiful and they're very resilient too. A plant can 0:06:54.316 --> 0:06:57.036 look a hot mess one week, give it a little nutrient, 0:06:57.116 --> 0:06:59.676 little sunlight and figure out what's wrong, and it looks 0:06:59.756 --> 0:07:02.356 like a million dollars the next week, so they bounce 0:07:02.396 --> 0:07:05.636 back really fast, and like Raft said, they're actually living 0:07:05.676 --> 0:07:08.916 and breathing organism. We play the music. What music do 0:07:08.956 --> 0:07:10.956 you played? The plans? It was like two straight weeks 0:07:10.956 --> 0:07:12.996 he was playing gospel music and I was like, oh, 0:07:13.036 --> 0:07:18.556 he's going through something right now, no please, okay. And 0:07:18.596 --> 0:07:21.436 then the next day he's playing just you know, some 0:07:21.556 --> 0:07:27.316 nil soul music. Now he's good. So it just really depends. Okay, 0:07:27.356 --> 0:07:30.716 are you okay? Raft? You came through it, Okay, Yeah, 0:07:30.756 --> 0:07:35.516 that's accurate. How like, how is the business doing? Like 0:07:35.676 --> 0:07:38.836 is your dad's life savings safe? Yeah? When we started, 0:07:38.996 --> 0:07:41.596 our first order was for two thousand dollars and it 0:07:41.676 --> 0:07:44.316 took that joy way to take us three weeks to Yeah, 0:07:44.356 --> 0:07:46.756 it was three weeks to process it. That's not a 0:07:46.836 --> 0:07:49.196 living between four people, not going to make a living 0:07:49.556 --> 0:07:53.556 that way. So how about now we could probably get 0:07:53.556 --> 0:07:55.916 a two thousand worder out in like a day, maybe 0:07:56.116 --> 0:07:59.076 less right the same day annually more or less. How 0:07:59.116 --> 0:08:01.996 much do you sell? About five to six hundred thousand 0:08:02.036 --> 0:08:05.516 dollars wholesale? Okay in marijuana which was quatest like twelve 0:08:05.596 --> 0:08:09.396 hundred pounds, and that's that's grown and sold grows, right, 0:08:09.436 --> 0:08:13.396 so that minus your costs is your profit exactly. And 0:08:13.436 --> 0:08:16.916 so there are people in Washington who sell millions of 0:08:16.956 --> 0:08:20.476 dollars a year certainly, right, million dollars a month? Yeah? 0:08:20.476 --> 0:08:22.836 Oh wow? Okay, So how do you compete? Man? I 0:08:22.876 --> 0:08:25.316 feel like this is like small business lessons here, like 0:08:25.316 --> 0:08:27.916 how do you compete against a business that's more than 0:08:27.956 --> 0:08:31.356 ten times your size? Joy? How do we compete with business? Like? 0:08:31.396 --> 0:08:33.596 We really have to focus on our brand, what we 0:08:33.716 --> 0:08:37.756 do better than anyone else? You ask Joy, but then 0:08:37.796 --> 0:08:41.556 you answered Joy, how do you compete? There's a demographic 0:08:41.556 --> 0:08:43.676 and people they want cheap weed, people like going to 0:08:43.716 --> 0:08:48.476 Walmart and Costco. But there are people that really value 0:08:49.076 --> 0:08:51.916 knowing who grew their weed, who grew their weed, how 0:08:51.956 --> 0:08:54.076 did they grow it? And then when you can connect 0:08:54.076 --> 0:08:59.756 to the consumer with that via Instagram, online story connecting, 0:09:00.236 --> 0:09:03.396 building relationships, then they feel like, you know what, I 0:09:03.476 --> 0:09:05.116 want to be connected to them and I want to 0:09:05.156 --> 0:09:08.236 support them. I want to support this black business, this 0:09:08.436 --> 0:09:10.716 family owned and operated business. And a lot of people 0:09:10.796 --> 0:09:13.756 have told us they see their family in us. Every 0:09:13.756 --> 0:09:15.516 time they look at us, are like, you remind me 0:09:15.556 --> 0:09:17.756 of my sister or my mom. Is or I love 0:09:17.796 --> 0:09:20.676 your mom, she's smokes, she's really funny. Or your grandmother 0:09:20.756 --> 0:09:23.436 she's one hundred and one, I love her. We connect 0:09:23.436 --> 0:09:27.596 people on that family piece, and that's really huge. You 0:09:27.676 --> 0:09:30.276 mentioned your mom and your hundred and one year old grandmother. 0:09:30.756 --> 0:09:34.236 Are they part of the business. They certainly consume part 0:09:34.276 --> 0:09:37.396 of the business. They're part of the cost side of 0:09:37.516 --> 0:09:41.876 the revenue side. Yeah, my mom's a designated tester. You know, 0:09:41.876 --> 0:09:43.796 we have name tax for everybody, and that's her title. 0:09:44.516 --> 0:09:46.636 My kids want to grow up to be ice cream testers. 0:09:46.676 --> 0:09:48.636 I feel like your mom really hit the jackpot on 0:09:48.716 --> 0:09:55.916 that one too. After the break, the problem Joy and 0:09:55.916 --> 0:09:58.436 Wrapped are working on now, how do you help more 0:09:58.476 --> 0:10:07.636 black people get into the weed business. That's the end 0:10:07.636 --> 0:10:09.756 of the ads. Now we're going back to the show. 0:10:10.236 --> 0:10:13.396 Back before weed was legal or quasi legal whatever it 0:10:13.476 --> 0:10:17.316 is now in America, black people made up a disproportionate 0:10:17.356 --> 0:10:21.316 share of the people arrested on marijuana related charges. Now 0:10:21.316 --> 0:10:24.476 that weed is legal or quasi legal, black people are 0:10:24.556 --> 0:10:28.596 underrepresented in the marijuana industry and this is a problem 0:10:28.636 --> 0:10:31.076 that Joy and Raft are working on now. We wanted 0:10:31.116 --> 0:10:32.996 to use our platform of being one of the only 0:10:33.036 --> 0:10:36.116 black farmers in the SATA Washington. Not the only, but 0:10:36.356 --> 0:10:39.236 one of the few to use our platform to help 0:10:39.276 --> 0:10:42.156 bring attention and awareness to that. Did I read raft 0:10:42.236 --> 0:10:44.516 that you were on some kind of a state committee 0:10:44.836 --> 0:10:48.956 that recently changed a rule that was keeping people out 0:10:48.996 --> 0:10:51.636 of the legal weed business. Yeah. One of the things 0:10:51.876 --> 0:10:54.796 that we talked about, amongst a million other things, was 0:10:55.356 --> 0:10:59.196 this rule that the Liquoring Cannabis Board had that would 0:10:59.356 --> 0:11:02.636 disqualify you from owning a marijuana business essentially if you 0:11:02.676 --> 0:11:06.556 had a non violent drug offense conviction or charge in 0:11:06.596 --> 0:11:10.356 your past. And they changed that rule finally, which is 0:11:10.396 --> 0:11:13.076 a step in the right direction, but it is not enough. 0:11:13.556 --> 0:11:16.476 And you've also worked on this Washington state law that's 0:11:16.516 --> 0:11:19.036 addressing some of these some of these social issues. Right. 0:11:19.316 --> 0:11:22.796 We helped, you know, draft the bill. Connect with people 0:11:23.036 --> 0:11:26.636 will help lobby the bill. We were out there testifying. 0:11:26.916 --> 0:11:29.996 It was a big heavy lift and it passed. Yeah, 0:11:30.036 --> 0:11:32.476 we can't take all the credit for it, it was 0:11:32.516 --> 0:11:35.676 It was definitely a community push. And the biggest piece 0:11:36.476 --> 0:11:40.156 is Washington brings in over They've brought in over the 0:11:40.196 --> 0:11:43.076 last two years over a billion dollars in tax revenue, 0:11:43.396 --> 0:11:46.676 and so a lot of those funds. We have been 0:11:46.796 --> 0:11:50.636 using our platform to try to get those back into neighborhoods, 0:11:50.676 --> 0:11:54.876 which is important. And how this, you know, how amazing 0:11:54.916 --> 0:11:57.796 would it be that these neighborhoods that were torn up 0:11:57.796 --> 0:12:03.596 by the War on drugs, affected poverty, homelessness could go 0:12:03.676 --> 0:12:08.316 back into those communities from cannabis tax dollars and continue 0:12:08.356 --> 0:12:12.636 to repair those communities with those tax dollars that were generated. 0:12:12.996 --> 0:12:15.236 I think that is really the goal. And Jacob I 0:12:15.236 --> 0:12:17.436 just want to give a shout out because yesterday the 0:12:17.516 --> 0:12:20.636 governor came out with his proposed budget and it allocated 0:12:20.676 --> 0:12:25.276 one hundred and twenty five million dollars for disfortunately impacted 0:12:25.356 --> 0:12:31.316 groups community reinvestment from the cannabis tax dollars. I mean, 0:12:31.316 --> 0:12:33.836 that's a huge The effects of the bill are going 0:12:33.876 --> 0:12:37.556 to be felt for generations. Great. So people are sort 0:12:37.596 --> 0:12:42.996 of talking about this idea that marijuana might be legalized 0:12:43.076 --> 0:12:47.156 at the federal level. Right right now, clearly you're operating 0:12:47.156 --> 0:12:49.676 and you know under all these state rules. What would 0:12:49.676 --> 0:12:52.396 it mean for your business if we were just legal 0:12:52.676 --> 0:12:57.356 in America? Oh my goodness, what would it mean? Itould 0:12:57.396 --> 0:13:00.716 be amazing. You know, right now, we grow twelve hundred 0:13:00.716 --> 0:13:04.796 pounds to fifteen hundred pounds depending on the weather of marijuana, 0:13:05.636 --> 0:13:07.916 you know street, if that was marijuana we can sell 0:13:07.956 --> 0:13:13.756 directly took the consumer, I can imagine. I mean, look, 0:13:13.836 --> 0:13:16.556 a thousand pounds convention has kind of put that at 0:13:16.556 --> 0:13:19.676 ten dollars a gram, one pounds, four hundred and fifty 0:13:19.716 --> 0:13:22.276 four grams, you're talking about forty five hundred dollars a pound. 0:13:22.636 --> 0:13:27.196 If we could produce four to five million dollars in marijuana, 0:13:27.436 --> 0:13:30.676 actually six million dollars in marijuana every year, it would 0:13:30.716 --> 0:13:33.956 change dramatically. Would it also mean you would have to 0:13:33.996 --> 0:13:38.516 compete against you know, these giant even in some cases 0:13:38.556 --> 0:13:41.596 publicly traded weed companies that have been kind of building 0:13:41.636 --> 0:13:44.236 up in Canada and waiting to like sweep into the 0:13:44.316 --> 0:13:48.476 US when marijuana is legalized here. Yeah, I think we would. 0:13:48.716 --> 0:13:50.436 But at the end of the day, everyone has to 0:13:50.516 --> 0:13:55.556 grow the plan. We focused on efficiency in growing it 0:13:55.796 --> 0:13:59.436 for an environmentally friendly impact. You know, we grow for 0:13:59.556 --> 0:14:02.236 nine dollars a day in power, and I don't think 0:14:02.236 --> 0:14:04.756 anybody really can compete with that in terms of price 0:14:05.116 --> 0:14:09.116 in economies of scale. Now, obviously people can produce more 0:14:09.196 --> 0:14:13.116 or marijuana, but I think what we offer that those 0:14:13.156 --> 0:14:18.796 other companies don't. It's just that authentic, lovingly produced product 0:14:19.396 --> 0:14:24.236 that corporate marijuana really can't replicate at that scale. It's 0:14:24.316 --> 0:14:27.876 like craft beer your craft weed. That's exactly right. We 0:14:27.916 --> 0:14:29.796 don't produce a lot of it, but what we do produce, 0:14:29.836 --> 0:14:33.476 we produce it, you know, with love and attention and 0:14:33.636 --> 0:14:36.556 dedication and service. And we really care about what you 0:14:37.036 --> 0:14:39.316 experience when you use our product because we put our 0:14:39.436 --> 0:14:43.116 name on you know, so basically you can't wait until 0:14:43.196 --> 0:14:45.916 we It is just legal in America, Me and everybody 0:14:45.916 --> 0:14:51.836 else in a minute, the Lightning Round, including Joy and 0:14:51.956 --> 0:14:54.876 Rap's favorite things to do when they smoke, and the 0:14:54.956 --> 0:15:04.076 best and worst things about working with your family. Okay, 0:15:04.116 --> 0:15:06.236 let's get back to the show. We're going to close 0:15:06.236 --> 0:15:08.636 with the Lightning Round. Are you ready? I want you 0:15:08.636 --> 0:15:11.316 guys both to answer. We can interrupt each other, you 0:15:11.356 --> 0:15:15.076 can talk over each other, but I want everybody on 0:15:15.116 --> 0:15:19.036 this one. What's your favorite thing about working with your family? 0:15:19.836 --> 0:15:25.276 You can't get fired. You spending time with my dad 0:15:25.276 --> 0:15:28.036 and my sister and my mom. What's your least favorite 0:15:28.076 --> 0:15:31.156 thing about working with your family? Same answer, Joy, Yeah, 0:15:31.236 --> 0:15:34.476 the same. I can't fire rafts if we have a problem. 0:15:34.516 --> 0:15:39.116 I can't fire him the same answer. I don't want 0:15:39.156 --> 0:15:41.236 to presume that you guys smoke weed. But if you 0:15:41.316 --> 0:15:43.916 do smoke weed, what's your favorite thing to do when 0:15:43.916 --> 0:15:45.956 you smoke? I smoke before I go to bed. My 0:15:46.036 --> 0:15:50.676 favorite thing to do is to sleep. I don't smoke. 0:15:50.716 --> 0:15:53.116 I'll take some edibles, and then I like to do 0:15:53.156 --> 0:15:56.556 design stuff, so, like, you know, some high level stuff 0:15:56.596 --> 0:15:58.716 because it makes me super creative. So it might be 0:15:58.756 --> 0:16:01.236 the website, might be some cool pictures, might be a 0:16:01.316 --> 0:16:04.956 label design, might be some inspiration that type of thing. 0:16:05.396 --> 0:16:07.876 So your answer is work joy your favorite thing to 0:16:07.876 --> 0:16:10.556 do when you get highest work? Yeah, isn't that crazy? 0:16:10.916 --> 0:16:13.396 It's okay, No, it's great. If you have just like 0:16:13.436 --> 0:16:15.436 a ten minute break in the middle of the day, 0:16:15.476 --> 0:16:18.836 what do you do to relax? I watch unintentional as 0:16:18.956 --> 0:16:23.716 mr videos on YouTube, especially the medical variety. It's my favorite. Well, 0:16:23.716 --> 0:16:27.956 like doctors just sort of like rustling little like plastic 0:16:28.036 --> 0:16:31.756 rappers as they're doing a surgery or something. Yeah, oh, 0:16:31.796 --> 0:16:33.876 you know, my favorite thing is the lymph node check. 0:16:34.036 --> 0:16:37.116 I'll watch a compilation of that. Did they just like 0:16:37.156 --> 0:16:39.916 gently touch your lymph nodes around your neck and clavical 0:16:40.076 --> 0:16:45.596 do you, guys think you'll work on the farm forever? No, 0:16:45.996 --> 0:16:48.476 probably not. How will you know when it's time to 0:16:48.516 --> 0:16:52.116 go do something else? When I do not love going 0:16:52.796 --> 0:16:58.236 to grow plants, there's still that like just pure amazement 0:16:58.636 --> 0:17:00.956 at the growth a week over week where I'm just 0:17:01.236 --> 0:17:04.156 I'm enthralled like a little kid. Great. Thanks so much 0:17:04.196 --> 0:17:05.796 to both of you for your time, Thanks for talking 0:17:05.796 --> 0:17:07.756 to me. Thank you guys so much for thinking of us. 0:17:07.756 --> 0:17:13.236 Really yeah, it's great. Thank you, Thank you guys. Joy 0:17:13.316 --> 0:17:17.356 and Ralph Hollingsworth run the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company phc CO. 0:17:18.356 --> 0:17:21.236 Today's show was produced by Edith Russolo. It was edited 0:17:21.276 --> 0:17:24.876 by Robert Smith and Kate Parkinson Morgan and engineered by 0:17:24.876 --> 0:17:27.996 Amanda ka Wong. I'm Jacob Goldstein and I'll be back 0:17:28.036 --> 0:17:38.076 next week with another episode of What's Your Problem.