1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:28,636 Speaker 1: Pushkin. I'm Jacob Goldstein and this is What's Your Problem, 2 00:00:28,756 --> 00:00:31,556 Speaker 1: the show where entrepreneurs and engineers talk about the world 3 00:00:31,596 --> 00:00:34,316 Speaker 1: they're going to build once they solve a few problems. 4 00:00:35,396 --> 00:00:38,836 Speaker 1: My guests today are Raft and Joy Hollingsworth, the brother 5 00:00:38,876 --> 00:00:42,796 Speaker 1: and sister team that runs the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company aka 6 00:00:42,956 --> 00:00:48,556 Speaker 1: thhc Co. Joy and Raft run a farm in Washington 7 00:00:48,676 --> 00:00:51,836 Speaker 1: State where they grow and sell about six hundred thousand 8 00:00:51,916 --> 00:00:55,436 Speaker 1: dollars of marijuana a YEurope. Their problem, how do you 9 00:00:55,476 --> 00:00:58,636 Speaker 1: help more black people get into the legal weed business. 10 00:00:59,156 --> 00:01:01,236 Speaker 1: They've been working on this problem for a long time. 11 00:01:01,796 --> 00:01:04,556 Speaker 1: It started about a decade ago, right after Washington State 12 00:01:04,676 --> 00:01:08,436 Speaker 1: legalized recreational marijuana, and Joy and Raft decided to start 13 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:12,796 Speaker 1: their own farm from scratch in rural Washington State, despite 14 00:01:12,836 --> 00:01:17,156 Speaker 1: having lived their whole lives in downtown Seattle at the time. 15 00:01:17,236 --> 00:01:19,636 Speaker 1: Their dad had just retired after a career at the 16 00:01:19,676 --> 00:01:22,716 Speaker 1: Seattle Parks Department, and he put up a big chunk 17 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:25,676 Speaker 1: of his retirement savings to fund the farm. Joy and 18 00:01:25,756 --> 00:01:28,036 Speaker 1: Ralf told me, like a lot of entrepreneurs when they 19 00:01:28,036 --> 00:01:30,836 Speaker 1: started out, they really didn't know what they were doing. 20 00:01:31,516 --> 00:01:33,276 Speaker 1: You got to be a little crazy. You know how 21 00:01:33,316 --> 00:01:36,076 Speaker 1: they say entrepreneurs, you jump off a cliff and you're 22 00:01:36,076 --> 00:01:37,836 Speaker 1: going to figure out how to build your plane on 23 00:01:37,876 --> 00:01:40,636 Speaker 1: the way down. That's what it kind of felt like. Yeah, 24 00:01:40,716 --> 00:01:43,916 Speaker 1: and who started driving out found the property on Craigslist. 25 00:01:44,196 --> 00:01:47,436 Speaker 1: It was six acre plot of land in Mason County. 26 00:01:47,556 --> 00:01:49,916 Speaker 1: You know, we see this land, we like it. I say, 27 00:01:49,956 --> 00:01:54,196 Speaker 1: I'll take it. And the real estate agent, Larry at 28 00:01:54,196 --> 00:01:55,956 Speaker 1: the time, said, okay, we'll meet me at the Mason 29 00:01:55,956 --> 00:01:59,076 Speaker 1: County Title Office. Okay, great, Larry. So we go down 30 00:01:59,116 --> 00:02:03,596 Speaker 1: there and I had a Safeway bag, like a paper 31 00:02:03,596 --> 00:02:05,996 Speaker 1: bag full of cash. Oh my god, we're gonna pay 32 00:02:06,036 --> 00:02:09,316 Speaker 1: for this land. And we were so like EVA at 33 00:02:09,356 --> 00:02:11,676 Speaker 1: the time, we didn't want to tell anybody our plans. 34 00:02:12,276 --> 00:02:14,556 Speaker 1: What are these two black eyes from Seattle want with 35 00:02:14,596 --> 00:02:19,596 Speaker 1: six acres off of this private dirt road by the prison? 36 00:02:19,836 --> 00:02:23,356 Speaker 1: What do they want? It was ridiculous in hindsight, But 37 00:02:23,836 --> 00:02:27,196 Speaker 1: I mean, you're telling it as as funny, right, But like, 38 00:02:28,356 --> 00:02:31,716 Speaker 1: were there any other black people there? Was that scary? 39 00:02:31,916 --> 00:02:34,476 Speaker 1: Was it fine? Like? How was that part of that? 40 00:02:35,116 --> 00:02:38,516 Speaker 1: There's no other black people out there? And the neighbors 41 00:02:38,516 --> 00:02:40,476 Speaker 1: have been really nice to us to this day. They've 42 00:02:40,476 --> 00:02:44,196 Speaker 1: been great stewarts as neighbors, and so how did you 43 00:02:44,236 --> 00:02:46,596 Speaker 1: get from there to hear? Right? So you got your farm, 44 00:02:46,916 --> 00:02:50,876 Speaker 1: you get to know the neighbors. Kaus. It was chaotic. 45 00:02:51,276 --> 00:02:53,876 Speaker 1: We had a fence, we had cameras, we had a 46 00:02:53,876 --> 00:02:57,156 Speaker 1: couple of buildings, but the rest was just we're in 47 00:02:57,196 --> 00:03:00,436 Speaker 1: the open field. We don't really know what's going on. 48 00:03:00,756 --> 00:03:03,516 Speaker 1: We're gonna grow plants. We're gonna not only we're gonna 49 00:03:03,556 --> 00:03:07,156 Speaker 1: grow plants, We're gonna grow four thousand plants in the dirt. 50 00:03:07,436 --> 00:03:10,676 Speaker 1: We buy dirt from this guy down the road because 51 00:03:10,676 --> 00:03:12,716 Speaker 1: we heard from a friend that he has good dirt. 52 00:03:13,396 --> 00:03:16,596 Speaker 1: And it's like landscaping there. It's not even dirt you grow. 53 00:03:16,756 --> 00:03:20,236 Speaker 1: We like plants. It so like you bought the wrong dirt. 54 00:03:20,436 --> 00:03:23,476 Speaker 1: You bought the wrong dirt. Yeah, that sounds like a problem. 55 00:03:23,476 --> 00:03:25,956 Speaker 1: This guy would be like seven thousand dollars. It was 56 00:03:25,996 --> 00:03:28,596 Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, there was just so many different things. 57 00:03:29,116 --> 00:03:32,276 Speaker 1: We're freaking out. I moved to the farm. I'm living 58 00:03:32,316 --> 00:03:35,476 Speaker 1: in the construction trailer that we have, you know, put 59 00:03:35,516 --> 00:03:38,116 Speaker 1: on the farm as our office space. I'm sleeping in 60 00:03:38,156 --> 00:03:42,316 Speaker 1: the office. We hire a guy on um Craigslist. We 61 00:03:42,396 --> 00:03:45,756 Speaker 1: hire everybody that first year from Joy tell me, Yeah, 62 00:03:46,036 --> 00:03:48,396 Speaker 1: it's been all Rafts so far. Tell me what what 63 00:03:49,636 --> 00:03:53,076 Speaker 1: listening to? Yeah, No, I'm I'm sorry. We're still on 64 00:03:53,156 --> 00:03:54,876 Speaker 1: year one and I think you want to get from 65 00:03:54,916 --> 00:03:58,556 Speaker 1: year one now, So Joy, you pick up the story here. No, 66 00:03:58,636 --> 00:04:00,476 Speaker 1: I love it, but Joy, you pick up the story. 67 00:04:00,556 --> 00:04:03,156 Speaker 1: Get me over the next nine years. Here. I'm listening 68 00:04:03,196 --> 00:04:05,516 Speaker 1: to year one right now, Jacob, and I'm like, bro, 69 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:11,276 Speaker 1: we'll get us to twenty twenty one. Lad. Hey, Joy, 70 00:04:11,556 --> 00:04:14,356 Speaker 1: you got it, you got it. Joy, this is your moment. 71 00:04:14,356 --> 00:04:17,436 Speaker 1: I want to hear you're good. I'm sorry, No, I 72 00:04:17,556 --> 00:04:19,516 Speaker 1: mean it. I mean it. Joy, you tell me the 73 00:04:19,516 --> 00:04:21,956 Speaker 1: story of the next nine years. Raff is right. It 74 00:04:22,036 --> 00:04:25,276 Speaker 1: was such a learning piece and a learning curve with everything, 75 00:04:25,316 --> 00:04:27,916 Speaker 1: and it felt like an experiment for year one, and 76 00:04:27,956 --> 00:04:30,676 Speaker 1: we didn't know what we were doing wrong. We just 77 00:04:30,756 --> 00:04:32,716 Speaker 1: kind of like it just felt like it was this 78 00:04:32,796 --> 00:04:37,476 Speaker 1: whole entire thing of solving problems one after the other. 79 00:04:37,876 --> 00:04:40,396 Speaker 1: So every year it felt like we got better. It 80 00:04:40,476 --> 00:04:44,836 Speaker 1: just kept continuing to get better and better until that 81 00:04:44,956 --> 00:04:48,876 Speaker 1: moment right in twenty seventeen, which I think switched us 82 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:51,716 Speaker 1: when we were on and got to have dinner with 83 00:04:51,916 --> 00:04:55,356 Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain and crew. And that was really the year 84 00:04:55,516 --> 00:04:58,316 Speaker 1: that really, you know, put us on the map for 85 00:04:58,356 --> 00:05:00,836 Speaker 1: so many different reasons. And just to be clear, here, 86 00:05:00,876 --> 00:05:05,476 Speaker 1: a producer for Anthony Bourdain's CNN show read an article 87 00:05:05,596 --> 00:05:08,636 Speaker 1: about your farm in a in a Seattle newspaper and 88 00:05:08,676 --> 00:05:11,276 Speaker 1: then like a month later there's a TV crew filming 89 00:05:11,316 --> 00:05:13,596 Speaker 1: you at the farm and you're having dinner with Anthony 90 00:05:13,636 --> 00:05:16,716 Speaker 1: Bourdaine and you wind up on his show on CNN. 91 00:05:17,116 --> 00:05:20,836 Speaker 1: What does that do for your business? Right after that show, 92 00:05:21,356 --> 00:05:23,876 Speaker 1: all these people hit us up and said, hey, we'd 93 00:05:23,916 --> 00:05:26,036 Speaker 1: love to buy your product. Can you ship us a pound? 94 00:05:26,116 --> 00:05:28,516 Speaker 1: I live in Texas, I live in California. It's like, no, 95 00:05:28,676 --> 00:05:31,596 Speaker 1: that's actually illegal. We can't do that. And so it's 96 00:05:31,636 --> 00:05:34,596 Speaker 1: hard to monetize that piece when you can't be close 97 00:05:34,636 --> 00:05:38,996 Speaker 1: to the consumer. But on that branding piece, absolutely absolutely, 98 00:05:39,156 --> 00:05:41,396 Speaker 1: it gave us a lot of credibility in spaces that 99 00:05:41,476 --> 00:05:45,956 Speaker 1: we weren't really we didn't know existed. So let's just 100 00:05:46,036 --> 00:05:48,916 Speaker 1: talk about the business today, like sort of what it is, 101 00:05:48,956 --> 00:05:52,916 Speaker 1: how it works. I pulled it up on Google Maps 102 00:05:52,956 --> 00:05:56,796 Speaker 1: on the like satellite images one. If you just Google map, 103 00:05:56,836 --> 00:06:00,476 Speaker 1: Hollingsworth cannabis company. It comes up and like I'm zooming in. 104 00:06:00,796 --> 00:06:03,316 Speaker 1: But first of all, it is clearly like way out 105 00:06:03,356 --> 00:06:05,236 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, right, it's just trees and 106 00:06:05,356 --> 00:06:07,636 Speaker 1: farms and what is that maybe a creek all around. 107 00:06:07,916 --> 00:06:11,196 Speaker 1: But if I zoom in more like I can actually 108 00:06:11,316 --> 00:06:14,676 Speaker 1: see like it looks like mostly greenhouses and that's where 109 00:06:14,676 --> 00:06:17,596 Speaker 1: you grow the weed, grow the cannabis. Correct. So we 110 00:06:17,636 --> 00:06:21,076 Speaker 1: have eight greenhouses. We have three shipping containers, and we 111 00:06:21,116 --> 00:06:25,156 Speaker 1: just modify them to the buildings like wired and with doors. 112 00:06:25,196 --> 00:06:26,676 Speaker 1: So there, I mean they feel like you know, steel 113 00:06:26,676 --> 00:06:30,556 Speaker 1: frame buildings. But then we have a converted construction trailer 114 00:06:30,796 --> 00:06:33,636 Speaker 1: and that's where we do all the processing and it's renovated, hardwood, 115 00:06:33,636 --> 00:06:36,276 Speaker 1: floors is painted. It's nice. Tell me about the plants. 116 00:06:36,596 --> 00:06:42,036 Speaker 1: They're living, breathing beings. They are very much alive, and 117 00:06:42,436 --> 00:06:44,756 Speaker 1: at one point in time we'll have two thousand, one 118 00:06:44,796 --> 00:06:49,436 Speaker 1: hundred plants alive growing and it's like it's a symphony. 119 00:06:49,716 --> 00:06:54,276 Speaker 1: It's beautiful and they're very resilient too. A plant can 120 00:06:54,316 --> 00:06:57,036 Speaker 1: look a hot mess one week, give it a little nutrient, 121 00:06:57,116 --> 00:06:59,676 Speaker 1: little sunlight and figure out what's wrong, and it looks 122 00:06:59,756 --> 00:07:02,356 Speaker 1: like a million dollars the next week, so they bounce 123 00:07:02,396 --> 00:07:05,636 Speaker 1: back really fast, and like Raft said, they're actually living 124 00:07:05,676 --> 00:07:08,916 Speaker 1: and breathing organism. We play the music. What music do 125 00:07:08,956 --> 00:07:10,956 Speaker 1: you played? The plans? It was like two straight weeks 126 00:07:10,956 --> 00:07:12,996 Speaker 1: he was playing gospel music and I was like, oh, 127 00:07:13,036 --> 00:07:18,556 Speaker 1: he's going through something right now, no please, okay. And 128 00:07:18,596 --> 00:07:21,436 Speaker 1: then the next day he's playing just you know, some 129 00:07:21,556 --> 00:07:27,316 Speaker 1: nil soul music. Now he's good. So it just really depends. Okay, 130 00:07:27,356 --> 00:07:30,716 Speaker 1: are you okay? Raft? You came through it, Okay, Yeah, 131 00:07:30,756 --> 00:07:35,516 Speaker 1: that's accurate. How like, how is the business doing? Like 132 00:07:35,676 --> 00:07:38,836 Speaker 1: is your dad's life savings safe? Yeah? When we started, 133 00:07:38,996 --> 00:07:41,596 Speaker 1: our first order was for two thousand dollars and it 134 00:07:41,676 --> 00:07:44,316 Speaker 1: took that joy way to take us three weeks to Yeah, 135 00:07:44,356 --> 00:07:46,756 Speaker 1: it was three weeks to process it. That's not a 136 00:07:46,836 --> 00:07:49,196 Speaker 1: living between four people, not going to make a living 137 00:07:49,556 --> 00:07:53,556 Speaker 1: that way. So how about now we could probably get 138 00:07:53,556 --> 00:07:55,916 Speaker 1: a two thousand worder out in like a day, maybe 139 00:07:56,116 --> 00:07:59,076 Speaker 1: less right the same day annually more or less. How 140 00:07:59,116 --> 00:08:01,996 Speaker 1: much do you sell? About five to six hundred thousand 141 00:08:02,036 --> 00:08:05,516 Speaker 1: dollars wholesale? Okay in marijuana which was quatest like twelve 142 00:08:05,596 --> 00:08:09,396 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, and that's that's grown and sold grows, right, 143 00:08:09,436 --> 00:08:13,396 Speaker 1: so that minus your costs is your profit exactly. And 144 00:08:13,436 --> 00:08:16,916 Speaker 1: so there are people in Washington who sell millions of 145 00:08:16,956 --> 00:08:20,476 Speaker 1: dollars a year certainly, right, million dollars a month? Yeah? 146 00:08:20,476 --> 00:08:22,836 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Okay, So how do you compete? Man? I 147 00:08:22,876 --> 00:08:25,316 Speaker 1: feel like this is like small business lessons here, like 148 00:08:25,316 --> 00:08:27,916 Speaker 1: how do you compete against a business that's more than 149 00:08:27,956 --> 00:08:31,356 Speaker 1: ten times your size? Joy? How do we compete with business? Like? 150 00:08:31,396 --> 00:08:33,596 Speaker 1: We really have to focus on our brand, what we 151 00:08:33,716 --> 00:08:37,756 Speaker 1: do better than anyone else? You ask Joy, but then 152 00:08:37,796 --> 00:08:41,556 Speaker 1: you answered Joy, how do you compete? There's a demographic 153 00:08:41,556 --> 00:08:43,676 Speaker 1: and people they want cheap weed, people like going to 154 00:08:43,716 --> 00:08:48,476 Speaker 1: Walmart and Costco. But there are people that really value 155 00:08:49,076 --> 00:08:51,916 Speaker 1: knowing who grew their weed, who grew their weed, how 156 00:08:51,956 --> 00:08:54,076 Speaker 1: did they grow it? And then when you can connect 157 00:08:54,076 --> 00:08:59,756 Speaker 1: to the consumer with that via Instagram, online story connecting, 158 00:09:00,236 --> 00:09:03,396 Speaker 1: building relationships, then they feel like, you know what, I 159 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:05,116 Speaker 1: want to be connected to them and I want to 160 00:09:05,156 --> 00:09:08,236 Speaker 1: support them. I want to support this black business, this 161 00:09:08,436 --> 00:09:10,716 Speaker 1: family owned and operated business. And a lot of people 162 00:09:10,796 --> 00:09:13,756 Speaker 1: have told us they see their family in us. Every 163 00:09:13,756 --> 00:09:15,516 Speaker 1: time they look at us, are like, you remind me 164 00:09:15,556 --> 00:09:17,756 Speaker 1: of my sister or my mom. Is or I love 165 00:09:17,796 --> 00:09:20,676 Speaker 1: your mom, she's smokes, she's really funny. Or your grandmother 166 00:09:20,756 --> 00:09:23,436 Speaker 1: she's one hundred and one, I love her. We connect 167 00:09:23,436 --> 00:09:27,596 Speaker 1: people on that family piece, and that's really huge. You 168 00:09:27,676 --> 00:09:30,276 Speaker 1: mentioned your mom and your hundred and one year old grandmother. 169 00:09:30,756 --> 00:09:34,236 Speaker 1: Are they part of the business. They certainly consume part 170 00:09:34,276 --> 00:09:37,396 Speaker 1: of the business. They're part of the cost side of 171 00:09:37,516 --> 00:09:41,876 Speaker 1: the revenue side. Yeah, my mom's a designated tester. You know, 172 00:09:41,876 --> 00:09:43,796 Speaker 1: we have name tax for everybody, and that's her title. 173 00:09:44,516 --> 00:09:46,636 Speaker 1: My kids want to grow up to be ice cream testers. 174 00:09:46,676 --> 00:09:48,636 Speaker 1: I feel like your mom really hit the jackpot on 175 00:09:48,716 --> 00:09:55,916 Speaker 1: that one too. After the break, the problem Joy and 176 00:09:55,916 --> 00:09:58,436 Speaker 1: Wrapped are working on now, how do you help more 177 00:09:58,476 --> 00:10:07,636 Speaker 1: black people get into the weed business. That's the end 178 00:10:07,636 --> 00:10:09,756 Speaker 1: of the ads. Now we're going back to the show. 179 00:10:10,236 --> 00:10:13,396 Speaker 1: Back before weed was legal or quasi legal whatever it 180 00:10:13,476 --> 00:10:17,316 Speaker 1: is now in America, black people made up a disproportionate 181 00:10:17,356 --> 00:10:21,316 Speaker 1: share of the people arrested on marijuana related charges. Now 182 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:24,476 Speaker 1: that weed is legal or quasi legal, black people are 183 00:10:24,556 --> 00:10:28,596 Speaker 1: underrepresented in the marijuana industry and this is a problem 184 00:10:28,636 --> 00:10:31,076 Speaker 1: that Joy and Raft are working on now. We wanted 185 00:10:31,116 --> 00:10:32,996 Speaker 1: to use our platform of being one of the only 186 00:10:33,036 --> 00:10:36,116 Speaker 1: black farmers in the SATA Washington. Not the only, but 187 00:10:36,356 --> 00:10:39,236 Speaker 1: one of the few to use our platform to help 188 00:10:39,276 --> 00:10:42,156 Speaker 1: bring attention and awareness to that. Did I read raft 189 00:10:42,236 --> 00:10:44,516 Speaker 1: that you were on some kind of a state committee 190 00:10:44,836 --> 00:10:48,956 Speaker 1: that recently changed a rule that was keeping people out 191 00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:51,636 Speaker 1: of the legal weed business. Yeah. One of the things 192 00:10:51,876 --> 00:10:54,796 Speaker 1: that we talked about, amongst a million other things, was 193 00:10:55,356 --> 00:10:59,196 Speaker 1: this rule that the Liquoring Cannabis Board had that would 194 00:10:59,356 --> 00:11:02,636 Speaker 1: disqualify you from owning a marijuana business essentially if you 195 00:11:02,676 --> 00:11:06,556 Speaker 1: had a non violent drug offense conviction or charge in 196 00:11:06,596 --> 00:11:10,356 Speaker 1: your past. And they changed that rule finally, which is 197 00:11:10,396 --> 00:11:13,076 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction, but it is not enough. 198 00:11:13,556 --> 00:11:16,476 Speaker 1: And you've also worked on this Washington state law that's 199 00:11:16,516 --> 00:11:19,036 Speaker 1: addressing some of these some of these social issues. Right. 200 00:11:19,316 --> 00:11:22,796 Speaker 1: We helped, you know, draft the bill. Connect with people 201 00:11:23,036 --> 00:11:26,636 Speaker 1: will help lobby the bill. We were out there testifying. 202 00:11:26,916 --> 00:11:29,996 Speaker 1: It was a big heavy lift and it passed. Yeah, 203 00:11:30,036 --> 00:11:32,476 Speaker 1: we can't take all the credit for it, it was 204 00:11:32,516 --> 00:11:35,676 Speaker 1: It was definitely a community push. And the biggest piece 205 00:11:36,476 --> 00:11:40,156 Speaker 1: is Washington brings in over They've brought in over the 206 00:11:40,196 --> 00:11:43,076 Speaker 1: last two years over a billion dollars in tax revenue, 207 00:11:43,396 --> 00:11:46,676 Speaker 1: and so a lot of those funds. We have been 208 00:11:46,796 --> 00:11:50,636 Speaker 1: using our platform to try to get those back into neighborhoods, 209 00:11:50,676 --> 00:11:54,876 Speaker 1: which is important. And how this, you know, how amazing 210 00:11:54,916 --> 00:11:57,796 Speaker 1: would it be that these neighborhoods that were torn up 211 00:11:57,796 --> 00:12:03,596 Speaker 1: by the War on drugs, affected poverty, homelessness could go 212 00:12:03,676 --> 00:12:08,316 Speaker 1: back into those communities from cannabis tax dollars and continue 213 00:12:08,356 --> 00:12:12,636 Speaker 1: to repair those communities with those tax dollars that were generated. 214 00:12:12,996 --> 00:12:15,236 Speaker 1: I think that is really the goal. And Jacob I 215 00:12:15,236 --> 00:12:17,436 Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out because yesterday the 216 00:12:17,516 --> 00:12:20,636 Speaker 1: governor came out with his proposed budget and it allocated 217 00:12:20,676 --> 00:12:25,276 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five million dollars for disfortunately impacted 218 00:12:25,356 --> 00:12:31,316 Speaker 1: groups community reinvestment from the cannabis tax dollars. I mean, 219 00:12:31,316 --> 00:12:33,836 Speaker 1: that's a huge The effects of the bill are going 220 00:12:33,876 --> 00:12:37,556 Speaker 1: to be felt for generations. Great. So people are sort 221 00:12:37,596 --> 00:12:42,996 Speaker 1: of talking about this idea that marijuana might be legalized 222 00:12:43,076 --> 00:12:47,156 Speaker 1: at the federal level. Right right now, clearly you're operating 223 00:12:47,156 --> 00:12:49,676 Speaker 1: and you know under all these state rules. What would 224 00:12:49,676 --> 00:12:52,396 Speaker 1: it mean for your business if we were just legal 225 00:12:52,676 --> 00:12:57,356 Speaker 1: in America? Oh my goodness, what would it mean? Itould 226 00:12:57,396 --> 00:13:00,716 Speaker 1: be amazing. You know, right now, we grow twelve hundred 227 00:13:00,716 --> 00:13:04,796 Speaker 1: pounds to fifteen hundred pounds depending on the weather of marijuana, 228 00:13:05,636 --> 00:13:07,916 Speaker 1: you know street, if that was marijuana we can sell 229 00:13:07,956 --> 00:13:13,756 Speaker 1: directly took the consumer, I can imagine. I mean, look, 230 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:16,556 Speaker 1: a thousand pounds convention has kind of put that at 231 00:13:16,556 --> 00:13:19,676 Speaker 1: ten dollars a gram, one pounds, four hundred and fifty 232 00:13:19,716 --> 00:13:22,276 Speaker 1: four grams, you're talking about forty five hundred dollars a pound. 233 00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:27,196 Speaker 1: If we could produce four to five million dollars in marijuana, 234 00:13:27,436 --> 00:13:30,676 Speaker 1: actually six million dollars in marijuana every year, it would 235 00:13:30,716 --> 00:13:33,956 Speaker 1: change dramatically. Would it also mean you would have to 236 00:13:33,996 --> 00:13:38,516 Speaker 1: compete against you know, these giant even in some cases 237 00:13:38,556 --> 00:13:41,596 Speaker 1: publicly traded weed companies that have been kind of building 238 00:13:41,636 --> 00:13:44,236 Speaker 1: up in Canada and waiting to like sweep into the 239 00:13:44,316 --> 00:13:48,476 Speaker 1: US when marijuana is legalized here. Yeah, I think we would. 240 00:13:48,716 --> 00:13:50,436 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, everyone has to 241 00:13:50,516 --> 00:13:55,556 Speaker 1: grow the plan. We focused on efficiency in growing it 242 00:13:55,796 --> 00:13:59,436 Speaker 1: for an environmentally friendly impact. You know, we grow for 243 00:13:59,556 --> 00:14:02,236 Speaker 1: nine dollars a day in power, and I don't think 244 00:14:02,236 --> 00:14:04,756 Speaker 1: anybody really can compete with that in terms of price 245 00:14:05,116 --> 00:14:09,116 Speaker 1: in economies of scale. Now, obviously people can produce more 246 00:14:09,196 --> 00:14:13,116 Speaker 1: or marijuana, but I think what we offer that those 247 00:14:13,156 --> 00:14:18,796 Speaker 1: other companies don't. It's just that authentic, lovingly produced product 248 00:14:19,396 --> 00:14:24,236 Speaker 1: that corporate marijuana really can't replicate at that scale. It's 249 00:14:24,316 --> 00:14:27,876 Speaker 1: like craft beer your craft weed. That's exactly right. We 250 00:14:27,916 --> 00:14:29,796 Speaker 1: don't produce a lot of it, but what we do produce, 251 00:14:29,836 --> 00:14:33,476 Speaker 1: we produce it, you know, with love and attention and 252 00:14:33,636 --> 00:14:36,556 Speaker 1: dedication and service. And we really care about what you 253 00:14:37,036 --> 00:14:39,316 Speaker 1: experience when you use our product because we put our 254 00:14:39,436 --> 00:14:43,116 Speaker 1: name on you know, so basically you can't wait until 255 00:14:43,196 --> 00:14:45,916 Speaker 1: we It is just legal in America, Me and everybody 256 00:14:45,916 --> 00:14:51,836 Speaker 1: else in a minute, the Lightning Round, including Joy and 257 00:14:51,956 --> 00:14:54,876 Speaker 1: Rap's favorite things to do when they smoke, and the 258 00:14:54,956 --> 00:15:04,076 Speaker 1: best and worst things about working with your family. Okay, 259 00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,236 Speaker 1: let's get back to the show. We're going to close 260 00:15:06,236 --> 00:15:08,636 Speaker 1: with the Lightning Round. Are you ready? I want you 261 00:15:08,636 --> 00:15:11,316 Speaker 1: guys both to answer. We can interrupt each other, you 262 00:15:11,356 --> 00:15:15,076 Speaker 1: can talk over each other, but I want everybody on 263 00:15:15,116 --> 00:15:19,036 Speaker 1: this one. What's your favorite thing about working with your family? 264 00:15:19,836 --> 00:15:25,276 Speaker 1: You can't get fired. You spending time with my dad 265 00:15:25,276 --> 00:15:28,036 Speaker 1: and my sister and my mom. What's your least favorite 266 00:15:28,076 --> 00:15:31,156 Speaker 1: thing about working with your family? Same answer, Joy, Yeah, 267 00:15:31,236 --> 00:15:34,476 Speaker 1: the same. I can't fire rafts if we have a problem. 268 00:15:34,516 --> 00:15:39,116 Speaker 1: I can't fire him the same answer. I don't want 269 00:15:39,156 --> 00:15:41,236 Speaker 1: to presume that you guys smoke weed. But if you 270 00:15:41,316 --> 00:15:43,916 Speaker 1: do smoke weed, what's your favorite thing to do when 271 00:15:43,916 --> 00:15:45,956 Speaker 1: you smoke? I smoke before I go to bed. My 272 00:15:46,036 --> 00:15:50,676 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do is to sleep. I don't smoke. 273 00:15:50,716 --> 00:15:53,116 Speaker 1: I'll take some edibles, and then I like to do 274 00:15:53,156 --> 00:15:56,556 Speaker 1: design stuff, so, like, you know, some high level stuff 275 00:15:56,596 --> 00:15:58,716 Speaker 1: because it makes me super creative. So it might be 276 00:15:58,756 --> 00:16:01,236 Speaker 1: the website, might be some cool pictures, might be a 277 00:16:01,316 --> 00:16:04,956 Speaker 1: label design, might be some inspiration that type of thing. 278 00:16:05,396 --> 00:16:07,876 Speaker 1: So your answer is work joy your favorite thing to 279 00:16:07,876 --> 00:16:10,556 Speaker 1: do when you get highest work? Yeah, isn't that crazy? 280 00:16:10,916 --> 00:16:13,396 Speaker 1: It's okay, No, it's great. If you have just like 281 00:16:13,436 --> 00:16:15,436 Speaker 1: a ten minute break in the middle of the day, 282 00:16:15,476 --> 00:16:18,836 Speaker 1: what do you do to relax? I watch unintentional as 283 00:16:18,956 --> 00:16:23,716 Speaker 1: mr videos on YouTube, especially the medical variety. It's my favorite. Well, 284 00:16:23,716 --> 00:16:27,956 Speaker 1: like doctors just sort of like rustling little like plastic 285 00:16:28,036 --> 00:16:31,756 Speaker 1: rappers as they're doing a surgery or something. Yeah, oh, 286 00:16:31,796 --> 00:16:33,876 Speaker 1: you know, my favorite thing is the lymph node check. 287 00:16:34,036 --> 00:16:37,116 Speaker 1: I'll watch a compilation of that. Did they just like 288 00:16:37,156 --> 00:16:39,916 Speaker 1: gently touch your lymph nodes around your neck and clavical 289 00:16:40,076 --> 00:16:45,596 Speaker 1: do you, guys think you'll work on the farm forever? No, 290 00:16:45,996 --> 00:16:48,476 Speaker 1: probably not. How will you know when it's time to 291 00:16:48,516 --> 00:16:52,116 Speaker 1: go do something else? When I do not love going 292 00:16:52,796 --> 00:16:58,236 Speaker 1: to grow plants, there's still that like just pure amazement 293 00:16:58,636 --> 00:17:00,956 Speaker 1: at the growth a week over week where I'm just 294 00:17:01,236 --> 00:17:04,156 Speaker 1: I'm enthralled like a little kid. Great. Thanks so much 295 00:17:04,196 --> 00:17:05,796 Speaker 1: to both of you for your time, Thanks for talking 296 00:17:05,796 --> 00:17:07,756 Speaker 1: to me. Thank you guys so much for thinking of us. 297 00:17:07,756 --> 00:17:13,236 Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's great. Thank you, Thank you guys. Joy 298 00:17:13,316 --> 00:17:17,356 Speaker 1: and Ralph Hollingsworth run the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company phc CO. 299 00:17:18,356 --> 00:17:21,236 Speaker 1: Today's show was produced by Edith Russolo. It was edited 300 00:17:21,276 --> 00:17:24,876 Speaker 1: by Robert Smith and Kate Parkinson Morgan and engineered by 301 00:17:24,876 --> 00:17:27,996 Speaker 1: Amanda ka Wong. I'm Jacob Goldstein and I'll be back 302 00:17:28,036 --> 00:17:38,076 Speaker 1: next week with another episode of What's Your Problem.