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Speaker 1: a big back with outstanding feet that could catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be great on third down, that can

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Speaker 1: block um and and he's gonna be good in short

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Speaker 1: yard and goal line situations. He's tough, and I just

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Speaker 1: think he adds a great you know, one two punch

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Speaker 1: with with Chase Edmonds with his skill set, so you know,

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Speaker 1: a little thunder and lightning. I think I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a good mix. You know what's amazing about it, too,

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Speaker 1: Drew is I had a coach, an old coach, who

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Speaker 1: was really fond of saying, if you pack a locker

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Speaker 1: room with enough dogs, even the cats start barking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So right, good guys. You guys have done an unbelievable job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, from the very beginning of this offseason and

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Speaker 1: roster building of bringing in guys that have a reputation

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Speaker 1: for being physical and guys also that are leaders. That's

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Speaker 1: no action and is it not at all? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the philosophy that Steve kime Um set forth,

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Speaker 1: and it's our job, between Clinton and Ida to kind

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Speaker 1: of stress that to the staff. And that's the those

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna take priority. And you know, I know

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Speaker 1: Steve's talk to you guys about it on the radio before.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if we're if we're setting the board

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Speaker 1: and the guys are that we're looking at two players

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Speaker 1: and and they're close inability grade. Those guys that are

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Speaker 1: that are the alphas, that are the guys that are tough,

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Speaker 1: that we feel are a football character. Guys they're gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go above the other guy. And that's how

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Speaker 1: that's how we break the tie on a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: And like we're going to keep filling our locker room

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Speaker 1: with those guys and and and will if you know

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Speaker 1: about playing a long season and in week thirteen, fourteen fifteen,

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Speaker 1: when things start to fall apart, you know, those are

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Speaker 1: the guys that hold it together and those are the

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Speaker 1: you know, and we need those guys in our locker

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Speaker 1: And that has been a uh that has been a

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Speaker 1: major factor for us in the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: um in terms of, you know, what we're what we're addressing,

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Speaker 1: and what we're targeting in the draft end free agency.

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Speaker 1: See you sign JJ Watt, there's a pass rusher, right,

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Speaker 1: you get the corner and Malcolm Butler, you just got

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Speaker 1: the running back. You've you've obtained offensive linemen. So there

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be that glaring need in the draft.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the mock drafts, Drew and I

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Speaker 1: know you guys at times will laugh and mock the

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Speaker 1: mock drafts. But Cardinals have been look anywhere from corner

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Speaker 1: to receiver, to all line to running back to tight end,

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Speaker 1: everything all over the board. I take it that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing right now where the outsiders are really wondering

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Speaker 1: what direction you might go in round one, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a good point. That there's yeah, that there's no glaring,

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Speaker 1: you know, hole um, and that just gives us a

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Speaker 1: chance to take the best player. And that's just I know,

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Speaker 1: I know it's very cliche to say, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is so true that you just can't pass any

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Speaker 1: good players, no matter what, no matter one position. And

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Speaker 1: and uh, even if you feel full at that spot,

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Speaker 1: like if we have a guy up with a high

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Speaker 1: grade and you know we and we need a linebacker

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Speaker 1: and and it's in the that high players at a

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Speaker 1: position that's not you still got to take him because,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you've heard Steve say a thousand times,

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Speaker 1: you're your needs in in April aren't the same, aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna be the same in October. So you just need

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Speaker 1: as many good players and your roster as possible. Have

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Speaker 1: you guys actually run mock drafts yet? Have you done

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Speaker 1: that yet? I personally I try to stay away from him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think it take you get Uh, I think you

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Speaker 1: can mess you a little bit. I think you just

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Speaker 1: have to stick to what you and your staff believe. UM,

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Speaker 1: because I've looked at mock drafts. When I have looked

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Speaker 1: at mock drafts, I just think they're so off sometimes

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Speaker 1: that I just sit and time. I just can't. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't. I can't do it. So UM,

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Speaker 1: I typically typically typically do not mess with summer or attention.

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Speaker 1: So what about you guys, Drew? I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: do you guys ever go through the process of running

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Speaker 1: a mock draft as well? What? Absolutely ye have done

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Speaker 1: that yet? We have not yet? We can do that, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know towards the end, right before the draft, and

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, what we try to do is just

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Speaker 1: try to create as many scenarios as possible before we

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Speaker 1: get to our pick, whether it's trades or whether it's

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Speaker 1: um you know, uh, you know a guy that no

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Speaker 1: one in the room thinks we'd go before. Just so

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Speaker 1: when we get to our pick. Okay, and here's the

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Speaker 1: guys left, Now, what are we gonna do? Right? You know, okay,

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Speaker 1: which can we should we trade back? Here? Um? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know what what's that? What? What other? So we

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Speaker 1: have two guys? We take this guy? So, um we

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Speaker 1: do that every year. Um. We go around the room

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Speaker 1: basically look at basically the teams and needs of everyone

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Speaker 1: in front of us, and then each scout picks Okay,

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Speaker 1: who who are who are the Jags taken? Who are

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Speaker 1: the Jets taking? And we get to our picks that

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Speaker 1: we do it. Do you care to divulge? What? Who

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Speaker 1: you guys? Like? I know you're not a score. Where

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Speaker 1: is the draft? Ships? Where is the draft the deepest?

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Speaker 1: You were you know, long time director of college scouting?

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Speaker 1: Where do you see the most depth in which positions

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Speaker 1: in this draft? Something I never say pass rusher. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a very interesting draft for pass rusher, for inside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You know, usually it's receiver. Um, just because there's so

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Speaker 1: many bodies and it's never pass rusher. Now it's not

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Speaker 1: as I don't think it's as deep up top, but

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Speaker 1: it's like the second third round, it's gonna get real interesting.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of counted guys um in the you know,

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Speaker 1: second third, fourth round. They are they're gonna fly off

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Speaker 1: the board. It's there's gonna be a run from them

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Speaker 1: at some point, because there's it's a very very good group. Drew.

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Speaker 1: How's your arm rustling coming? I mean, is that I'm

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Speaker 1: looking hired. I no longer participating in arm wrestling. But now,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, are they still twenty? Are the guns

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Speaker 1: still twenty? They're they're hanging in there. Um haven't. I

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Speaker 1: haven't measured in a while. But you know what, the

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Speaker 1: white the wife still approved, so I must feel something, right.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the few executives the NFL. He has

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Speaker 1: a workout bonus in his conte. There's still got a motor.

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Speaker 1: That's the good. Love you, buddy, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I got to get it in the morning. Guys, absolutely, Drew,

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Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate the infus. Okay man than the director

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Speaker 1: of player Personnel and uh yeah, well it was by

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Speaker 1: design adding the leaders in the alpha. Yes, And we'll

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Speaker 1: go through some more what Drew had to say about

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft. Next on the Big Red

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Speaker 1: Range breaking news. J J. Watt is going to the desert.

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Speaker 1: WHOA that is not photos? I know, he said. Adam

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Speaker 1: Schepter just reported it Wow. The first thing I did

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Speaker 1: was take a look at the tape and quickly realized

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Speaker 1: that m J. J. Watt still look like J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt In my opinion, Jen, he walks on the field.

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Speaker 1: He don't think there's anybody in the reading better than him.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the Arizona Cardinals are going all in.

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Speaker 1: We had the opportunities to make some reason to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's business at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: and you know thing's gonna change to get traded to Arizon.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleas of anyone to the best days of

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Speaker 1: my life, a little different, thing different. There isn't enough

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Speaker 1: energy in the valley already. We're gonna try and turn

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Speaker 1: it up even a few more notches. The unmistakable theme

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Speaker 1: of flight Plan, season four of the Emmy Award winning

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Speaker 1: series Cardinals. Flight Plan. It premiers next Thursday, April twenty second,

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock on the Cardinal's YouTube channel, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of great insight stuff. You're from a lot of

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Speaker 1: the newcomers in there, starting with JJ Watt and all

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Speaker 1: the way down to retaining Mark Scolden and Wolf. We

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Speaker 1: just served the director of player Personnel, Drew Grigson here

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Speaker 1: on the big red rage presented by santan Ford and

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Speaker 1: Gilbert saying that quote adding men, adding leaders, adding alpha's

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Speaker 1: in response to your question whether it was by design,

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Speaker 1: So yes, it was a definitive Yes, that was the plan.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Polly, it really is and it's a plan,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Steve Kim has already talked about that he

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Speaker 1: needed to get more physically said, and he needed to

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Speaker 1: better leadership, he thought in the locker room, and those

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Speaker 1: two things they have gone out. And my goodness, Paul, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: every signing, every acquisition, every trade, every roster spot that

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Speaker 1: they actually brought in, it really checks those two boxes

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Speaker 1: right there, even right down to an AJ Green, who

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Speaker 1: is a big get off the press, physical type wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: If you ask him to block, he's gonna block. I

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Speaker 1: mean we talked about it after the signing of AJ Green,

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Speaker 1: for example, if you were to name the top three

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Speaker 1: receivers at making contested catches over the last decade, DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and A J. Green. Honestly, so you're right,

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Speaker 1: a guy who'll fight for the football, whether it's Rodney

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Speaker 1: Hudson and Brian Winters. Would you call those two guys maulers? Right,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler who had over one hundred tackles as a cornerback. So, Paula,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, Matt Prador will walk bull

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Speaker 1: legged grash you on a Saturday night. Gay. Yeah, maybe me,

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Speaker 1: but not an NFL player. I got ball. This guy

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Speaker 1: is full on kick or right in a grizzled veteran

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Speaker 1: at that. So I love it, man, I just love

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Speaker 1: the moves that they've made right now. This was not

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Speaker 1: an accident. And James Connor is the cherry on top

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Speaker 1: of this offseason as far as I'm concerned. And look,

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Speaker 1: it gets back for everything that everyone says about Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury and they mistakenly called the air raid offense and

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Speaker 1: so forth. Okay, it still gets back to running the ball, yes,

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Speaker 1: and stopping the run to such a large degree, Paul,

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Speaker 1: isn't that crazy, Paul? I mean, think about it right now,

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Speaker 1: the football universe, Paul, what you just said, it's still

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Speaker 1: even though the way you do it might be changing.

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Speaker 1: The way you do it, the how is different, but

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Speaker 1: it's still football, isn't it? Ultimately? And because of what

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Speaker 1: you just said right there, man, I think this is

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Speaker 1: exactly the direction the Arizona Cardinals are headed in. Now,

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Speaker 1: will it result in more wins? I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you this much, it's going to resolve a

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Speaker 1: lot more and a lot more bloody noses from opposing players.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know the analytics guys right now are saying, calvci,

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Speaker 1: where are you. It's a passing league. You know, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Outguard is somewhere right now taking my name in vain.

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Speaker 1: But here's my response to that is that when the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals was truly rolling the second half of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: in the first half of two twenty, what was a

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Speaker 1: common denominator? An effective running game? You got that right?

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Speaker 1: And where did the Cardinals fail on defense in the

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Speaker 1: most critical moments? And Vance Joseph was pretty darn honest

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Speaker 1: about it with us a couple of months ago here

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Speaker 1: in the Big Red Rage, they finished into the bottom

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Speaker 1: third and run defense. So when I look at jj

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Speaker 1: Watt for everything that he brings, and there's a lot,

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Speaker 1: we just fill a whole show talking about his resume,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he led the NFL and tackles for

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Speaker 1: loss against the run last year. Yes, that's huge. And

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Speaker 1: that's my intro here to Jim Trotter in the NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: just talking about jj Watt here recently in that interior

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Speaker 1: presence that he provides. Talking in Advanced Joseph, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that jj Watt brings besides leadership is an

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Speaker 1: interior presence. In the Nickel package, they haven't got much

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Speaker 1: pressure up the middle when it comes to the pass rush,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they go to that package, and they

637
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: believe that with jj Watt they're complementing Chandler Jones, they

638
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: should be able to generate that pressure. And Wolf DJ

639
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: talked about it with us, especially when you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: putting jj Watt and Chandler Jones on the same side

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Speaker 1: of the line. Yeah, you right, Paulie. But you've got

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Speaker 1: to get to those third and Nabby pass situations, right,

643
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: You got to get to those situations where you can

644
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Speaker 1: use all that talent, and that means you got to

645
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Speaker 1: stop the run first. It still is. It is an

646
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: amazing thing. Look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the

647
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Speaker 1: offense that they actually run, right that is, paul there's

648
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Speaker 1: a lot of elements that are right out of nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five Okay, Paul, I'm just gonna tell you that

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Speaker 1: right now. Even further back than that, like a seven

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Speaker 1: man slide protection, Okay, I mean this is this is

652
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: still a league where you've got to be physical on

653
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Speaker 1: the lineup scrimmage, and JJ Watt is going to go

654
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: a long, long way and helping the Arizona Cardinals be

655
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Speaker 1: more physical in terms of stopping the run. You've got

656
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Speaker 1: to keep a three dimensional approach to the game of football.

657
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: You've got if you're an offense, you've got to make

658
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: the defense wonder what it is you're gonna do. Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna run it, Are you gonna throw it? Or

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00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: are you're gonna act like you're gonna run it and

661
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: then throw it. You gotta keep them guessing, Paul. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, speaking at JJ Watt and Chandler Jones,

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Speaker 1: how about Drew Grigson moments ago telling us that the

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Speaker 1: most depth in this draft is a pass rusher. And

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Speaker 1: you never say that, So it makes me wonder. As

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Speaker 1: wrong as the mock drafts are typically and annually, everyone

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Speaker 1: who thinks the Cardinals are going corner or maybe a

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00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: receiver at sixteen, if that edge guy is there, don't

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Speaker 1: forget Chandler Jones in the final year of his contract.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt is above the age of thirty Marcus Golden

671
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Speaker 1: on a two year deal. I would not be surprised

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Speaker 1: if they go edge rusher at number sixteen. That's a

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Speaker 1: good point, Paul. It's going to be very interesting to

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Speaker 1: see who's there at sixteen. I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 1: They can get a great football player at sixteen, Penn. Again,

676
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Speaker 1: if it's that deep, maybe that edge guy, maybe that

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Speaker 1: pass rusher comes in round two. We'll see where. Two

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Speaker 1: weeks away tomorrow night from the NFL Draft, we continue

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Speaker 1: with a big red rage presented by Santan Board in

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Speaker 1: Gilbert Rooppolo back to path, throws over the middle behind

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Speaker 1: the attendive receiver, and a diving interception at the five

682
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Speaker 1: yard line. It's Jalen Thompson with a pick. I think

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Speaker 1: Jayalen Thompson is just scratching the surface of what he

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Speaker 1: could possibly become. Quick bro over the middle. It's broken

685
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Speaker 1: up at the forty yard line incomplete by Jalen Thompson.

686
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Speaker 1: Made a good play breaking on the receiver. You watch

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00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Jaalen Thompson right there lined up there to slop that

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Speaker 1: was just what a corner would typically do the way

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Speaker 1: he broke on that slam Sarron Wolflat. It was joined

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Speaker 1: by day Pash there the collective voice of the airs

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Speaker 1: on a Cardinals and the Airs on a Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 1: Here on the Big Red Rage, you might be asking yourself, well,

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Speaker 1: why was there a montage of Jalen Thompson there from

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Speaker 1: our fine producer Jim Almahandro And the answer is that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's an astute observation that Jalen Thompson

696
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Speaker 1: has yet to have a traditional offseason. He's actually yet

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Speaker 1: to have an offseason of any sort in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and he's entering his third season in the NFL. Because

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Speaker 1: if you were a call as a rookie, he was

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Speaker 1: taken in the supplemental draft in July and then just

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00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: showed up for training camp. And then, of course last year,

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Speaker 1: the entire offseason was wiped out except being held virtually

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Speaker 1: because of the pandemics. So here we go again, as

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: the NFL released a memo to teams today, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a nine week offseason schedule. Everything will be

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Speaker 1: voluntary wolf except for one mandatory mini camp. Yeah, Paul

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Speaker 1: him one mandatory mini camp and everything being voluntary in

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Speaker 1: the off season, it's really really important, I think that

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Speaker 1: you get your work out there, especially for the young guys. Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's so difficult to make a roster coming in as

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Speaker 1: a rookie unless you're a high round pick, a guy

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Speaker 1: that's taken in the first, second, third round, even the

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Speaker 1: fourth round. I would say anything after that. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of a toss it up in the air proposition right now.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult to make a team, and you got to

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing before you can actually make a

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00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: roster an Ota, they go a long, long way for

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Speaker 1: a young guy to actually get the offense down, get

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Speaker 1: the defense down, and then maybe go out and try

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Speaker 1: to execute and play. And I should say the NFL

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Speaker 1: has allowed for rookie mini camps in the weeks following

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Speaker 1: this year's draft, so that has been provided for. But

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Speaker 1: starting Monday, they're going to start having virtual zoom meetings

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Speaker 1: two hours per day and that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the NFL offseason work. And look, this has

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00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: been a process obviously between the league and the NFLPA.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the president Brown Center JC Tredder, he was

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Speaker 1: on the rich eisens Show was asked if he thinks

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a boycott of these voluntary workouts.

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Speaker 1: I don't think boycott's the word. I think to start

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Speaker 1: the off season is voluntary. And I think guys right

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00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: now are making an informed decision about what's in their

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Speaker 1: best interest when it comes to their health and safety.

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Speaker 1: And that's what being a professional is all about, is

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Speaker 1: making it formed decisions for what's best for your your health,

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Speaker 1: your career. And guys, you're doing that and we're seeing

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Speaker 1: those those people come out and come forward and say

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Speaker 1: what they want to do moving forward. That's well said

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Speaker 1: right there, Polly, it really is, because everyone's situation is different, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's situation not only when it comes to making a

741
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Speaker 1: football team and making a roster. Everyone's situation is different.

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00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: But everyone's personal health situation even at home, is different

743
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Speaker 1: as well, and every situation state by state is different.

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00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: Where Michigan is right now, you can understand the reason

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00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: the Lions players may have voted the way they did,

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00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: which is very different than a lot of other states.

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Speaker 1: So yes, well that ruined your summer plans, then they Polly,

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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: going back to the Motor City wheren't you going back there,

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Speaker 1: Paul wolf Um. You know I'm going to take the fifth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not being able to see the in laws this summer,

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Speaker 1: so all right, I'm sorry, Paul. Probably shouldn't answer on

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Speaker 1: whether that's a plus or a minus. Anyway, what I

753
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: was going to bring up was the fact that look

754
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: at last year in the off season, and I wonder,

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00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: you tell me you spent ten years in the league.

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00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Do you think the veterans are saying, Hey, maybe everyone

757
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: overestimated the importance of these offseason programs. Oh, there's no

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00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: doubt and the preseason games, of which there were none, right,

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00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they just went into the season last year

760
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: and dropped the plow and went straight forward forward. And

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00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: now I wonder what some of these players are thinking, Yeah,

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00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: there's no doubt, Paul. And if you're an established player too,

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00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe you're just thinking to yourself, Man, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to be out on that field. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: be I do know this right now, the Union is

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Speaker 1: going to use OTAs it's going to use this offseason

767
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: and the experience of COVID and this pandemic and the

768
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: way that it's impacted the offseason. I think they're going

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: to use that as a bargaining chip going forward, because

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00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: that's what any good union would do, is use it

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00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: as a bargaining chip going forward to get something may

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Speaker 1: want down the line. And guess what, the owners just

773
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: got seventeen games, and so you know, this is a

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00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: pollie to a lot of people, say, wow, that's CBA.

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00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Now that's a decade away, and listen, they can always

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00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: put an addendum to it, and they talk throughout the

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Speaker 1: length of ANYCBA to begin with, no doubt, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I also wonder if it contributed to the direction the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals went was signing a lot of veterans this offseason.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you get guys in their thirties around

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Speaker 1: the age of thirty. You know, James Connor was kind

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Speaker 1: of conspicuous by signing that he's in his mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: Most of the other guys that Cardinals said, well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: those guys are plugged in play in an uncertain offseason

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Speaker 1: where you might not have the ability to practice together

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Speaker 1: as a team very much. No, that's right, Paulie. It's

787
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Speaker 1: gonna be really, really interesting. But I just love the

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Speaker 1: fact you said James Connor once again. Listen, first down maker,

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00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: hand him the ball off run some power schemes in

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00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: between the tackle. Watch him hit the angles and hit

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00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: the hole and punch a hole into that front seven.

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Speaker 1: I want to see that, Paul. Yes, somebody tells me

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00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: he's going to dear himself to you and the style

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00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: of football you love. We know he endeared himself to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers fans. He grew a mullet in twenty eighteen

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00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: just to fit in in Pittsburgh. Walk You realize that

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: he was a fan favorite just based on his mullet,

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Speaker 1: and of course everyone else grew it as well. PAULI,

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Speaker 1: I'm mimicking him. Yeah, so it was. It was part

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Speaker 1: of the Yinzer culture. We need to brother on to

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Speaker 1: explain the yser culture in the burg. Back to wrap

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Speaker 1: up this ddition to the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: Santan four in Gilbert Connor sweeps the left side, got

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Speaker 1: a block at the Tim Connor the five the touchdown, Well,

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Speaker 1: you just brought him another leader. This guy doesn't take

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Speaker 1: a second place to anybody. He's a great young man

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl a couple of years ago. I

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00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: just have a lot of respect to the young man

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Speaker 1: and what he's done and what he's accomplished in a

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00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: very short period of fact. He's an above average pass

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Speaker 1: catcher out of the backfield. I think that's an area

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00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: they can explore more with him because I think he's

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Speaker 1: capable of flipping the field a lot like Levian beld

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Speaker 1: It back in his a day. That's a good yet,

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Speaker 1: And you had an inside angle. I'm your big brother,

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Speaker 1: Craig Wolfley this week and on eight SEVENFM Arizona Sports.

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Speaker 1: There he was talking about James Conner, a player with

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Speaker 1: which he is very familiar from day one as Steelers

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Speaker 1: radio analyst. And wolf you tell me what else did

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Speaker 1: your brother tell you about James Conner. Well, just the

821
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: fact that he's a great guy. But I think we

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00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: already know that about James Connor. He's not flashy polly

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Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier. He's not a take

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Speaker 1: it to the house type running back. He's a guy

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00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: that's going to move the chains. And to think about

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Speaker 1: short yardage. We've already talked about it, short yardage and

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Speaker 1: goal line situations. He's going to improve the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: odds in those short yardage and goal line situation. He

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Speaker 1: runs well between the tackles, he can hold up in

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Speaker 1: play action. What I also love about it, Paulie, is

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Speaker 1: just the fact that he knows he's running a four

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Speaker 1: to six. Okay, he he's not going to try to

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Speaker 1: run sideways, He's not going to try to run around you.

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Speaker 1: He knows he's running a four to six. And that

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Speaker 1: means here comes a little giddy up. Oh at six one,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three pounds, a little wiggle and

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Speaker 1: then pick a side and rent And that's what I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see. And you know what, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see him in those situations. Like you just

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00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: said it, I'll sit a specific one. Remember the loss

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Speaker 1: at New England. It was week twelve, just a vexing loss, yes,

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00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: so many different ways as New England at scoring drives

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00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: that covered forty six and thirty five and thirty one

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Speaker 1: and thirty three yards and cam Newton had a passer

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Speaker 1: rating under thirty and somehow the Patriots found a way

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Speaker 1: no points. Now you hand that ball off to James

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Speaker 1: Conner and how do you like those odds? See, this

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Speaker 1: is why you're such a downer ball and we're playing

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Speaker 1: the music and suddenly you bring off that play right there.

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Speaker 1: That was diabolical to happen to a team right before

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Speaker 1: Were a touchdown? No no, and Larry Fischild running an

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Speaker 1: other bits. Well, if we had such a great show,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? I know you brought us down, palling.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's where my brain went when you brought

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