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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.
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Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 2: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
Speaker 2: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. How is
Speaker 2: your day going today? How are you feeling about life?
Speaker 2: You know, I've been watching the news the past couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. I know there are many of us who
Speaker 2: have experienced grief and then there's been some real scary
Speaker 2: stuff on And sometimes when you see someone else experiencing
Speaker 2: grief or worry, it can ignite the grief that you've
Speaker 2: felt before in the past. So always, I say be
Speaker 2: gentle on yourself. If you haven't taken me up on
Speaker 2: this offer already, Chapter ten of my book is how
Speaker 2: to Survive Grief, and if you want a free copy
Speaker 2: of it, go to we Don't Die dot com. Enter
Speaker 2: your name and your email address. It says it's just
Speaker 2: the first few chapters of my book, but in truth
Speaker 2: it is the entire book. Most of mankind has no
Speaker 2: idea how grief can lock hold on us. And so
Speaker 2: many things that we think are in our control, our feelings,
Speaker 2: our thoughts, they really are not. They're part of the
Speaker 2: grieving process. But there are things we can do to
Speaker 2: move through grief to feel better. So please take me
Speaker 2: up on my offer we Don't Die dot com. Scroll
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Speaker 2: where to put your email address in name. Now, if
Speaker 2: you've felt yourself emotional lately, know something that our emotional
Speaker 2: center is how our loved ones communicate from the afterlife.
Speaker 2: The more emotional we are might mean the more sensitive
Speaker 2: we are to afterlife communications. You've heard that everybody can
Speaker 2: play piano, right, Some people are just natural at it,
Speaker 2: and some people it takes years, but of course they
Speaker 2: can learn through practicing. Our spiritual development is the same
Speaker 2: way some people find and you've heard these stories of
Speaker 2: I saw people in spirit when I was a little kid,
Speaker 2: and then there's others that in their sixties, seventies, eighties
Speaker 2: end up learning how mediumship works. We all have the ability.
Speaker 2: Like I said, they communicate through our feelings and through
Speaker 2: our emotions. If you're somebody like me who doesn't like
Speaker 2: to experience the negative ones and might eat something, or
Speaker 2: some people drink something or others do other distracting things
Speaker 2: to avoid feeling emotions, I recommend that we all try
Speaker 2: to sit with those emotions and actually pay attention to them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's our loved ones trying to communicate with us.
Speaker 2: Here's something you can do. Take a picture of your
Speaker 2: loved one, think about them, look at their picture, recall
Speaker 2: and experience that you had together, and then pay attention
Speaker 2: to your belly. How do you feel, what's your gut?
Speaker 2: Say about it? Soak up the laughter, the love, the memories,
Speaker 2: and really pay attention to those feelings. When we can
Speaker 2: activate those feelings, also pay attention to the other thoughts
Speaker 2: and feelings that come into your mind, paying attention to
Speaker 2: our feelings, looking at a picture of our loved one,
Speaker 2: talking to them. It's like knocking on the door saying, hey,
Speaker 2: will you let me know you're still around, And don't
Speaker 2: be surprised when all of a sudden other thoughts and
Speaker 2: feelings and memories come flooding in. It's them just saying
Speaker 2: I'm right here with you. Our new medium glasses are
Speaker 2: also starting. Whether or not you want to be a medium,
Speaker 2: I think it's so cool for any of us just
Speaker 2: to learn how our soul communicates. And I tell you
Speaker 2: you would be blown away by realizing you are not
Speaker 2: the flow in blood that you think you are, that
Speaker 2: you are so much more. We really do have divine
Speaker 2: powers as being a human, and oftentimes we don't pay attention,
Speaker 2: but they are there. And I'm sure you've had plenty
Speaker 2: of opportunities to have instincts intuitions about people and things
Speaker 2: you just knew. So moving on with our show, The
Speaker 2: World Lost and the Spirit World Gained. Our wonderful pioneer
Speaker 2: Bill Guggenheim this past month. I'd like to start by
Speaker 2: reading his obituary, and several years ago I got an
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk with him, so I want to play
Speaker 2: some of his words. Here's the obituary. Sadly, Bill Guggenheim
Speaker 2: has left this world for the next at the age
Speaker 2: of eighty four. He died suddenly and unexpectedly of natural
Speaker 2: causes at his longtime home in Florida. Bill would not
Speaker 2: want us to grieve his life, but rather celebrate his
Speaker 2: exceptional life and joyous transition into the realm of spirit.
Speaker 2: For those of us who knew him and loved him,
Speaker 2: this task is much easier said than done. Not to
Speaker 2: grieve the death of one so very special, who gave
Speaker 2: so much to so many, often anonymously, asking nothing in return,
Speaker 2: is nearly an impossible challenge. Bill was a pioneer in
Speaker 2: the field of after death communication, also known as ADC experiences.
Speaker 2: He is considered by many to be the father of
Speaker 2: after death communication research, based on his project in which
Speaker 2: he and his ex wife Judy, collected over thirty three
Speaker 2: hundred first hand ADC accounts and interviewed over two thousand people.
Speaker 2: The ADC project resulted in a best selling book entitled
Speaker 2: Hello from Heaven, publish in two thousand and six, featuring
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty three cases now critically regarded as
Speaker 2: classic work. Hello from Heaven has helped hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of people all over the world to heal their grief
Speaker 2: over the loss of a loved one. Generously, Bill made
Speaker 2: it a practice to send out copies of his book
Speaker 2: free of charge to newly bereaved individuals, especially parents who
Speaker 2: had lost young children. Based on his diligent research in
Speaker 2: his first hand experiences, he came to the abiding conclusion
Speaker 2: that life and love are eternal and that death is
Speaker 2: merely a transition to a higher realm of continued existence.
Speaker 2: His longtime personalized automobile license tag beautifully and succinctly summed
Speaker 2: up his firm conviction about life's purpose be life. So
Speaker 2: here is a conversation I shared with the wonderful Bill Guggenheim.
Speaker 3: I'm from Long Island, Manhattan in New York City and
Speaker 3: New Jersey, and grew up there and went to school
Speaker 3: there Yale University. But mainly I was a stockbroker and
Speaker 3: a securities analyst, literally on Wall Street. I worked for
Speaker 3: two small firms, which has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3: That's my orientation. I inherited money when I was twenty one.
Speaker 3: I wanted to learn how to manage it. That's why
Speaker 3: I studied a whole bunch of courses and eventually worked
Speaker 3: in the field. But Judy and I moved to Florida.
Speaker 3: We had one son at that time, and I had
Speaker 3: a spiritual awakening in nineteen seventy four that led me
Speaker 3: to attend day five day workshop which would be very,
Speaker 3: very famous. That's doctor Elizabeth Koubler Ross wrote who and
Speaker 3: she wrote all the books yearly books on death and dying. Yes,
Speaker 3: And this workshop was held in nineteen seventy seven. It
Speaker 3: was just a series of coincidences, if there are tutch things.
Speaker 3: Happened to be watching her on the Phil Donna Hugh Show.
Speaker 3: One day, Judy called me in to see her. I
Speaker 3: had heard her name, but I didn't know who she was.
Speaker 3: I watched for an hour and she really spoke about
Speaker 3: near death experiences, which I was a bit familiar with.
Speaker 3: I had read Raymond Body's book Life After Life, which
Speaker 3: was published in nineteen seventy five, and I knew some
Speaker 3: people involved with that research and things like that. I didn't,
Speaker 3: you know, this didn't change my life or anything at all.
Speaker 3: I just watched it, and then coincidentally, the same show
Speaker 3: came on another cable channel when we were living in
Speaker 3: Sarasota two weeks later, and in that show it had
Speaker 3: her name and mailing address below. So, feeling kind of
Speaker 3: magnanimous at the moment, I wrote a check to support
Speaker 3: her work. Break the check twenty five dollars what you
Speaker 3: might do if the Brownie Scouts came around, or the
Speaker 3: fire department or any other you know, house to house
Speaker 3: charity call kind of thing. And I thought, that's you know,
Speaker 3: I did my good need for the day and that
Speaker 3: would be the end of it. But as it turned out,
Speaker 3: what Elizabeth wrote back to me sent me a number
Speaker 3: of audio cassette tapes called Lessons from the Dying Patient
Speaker 3: and invited me to attend a five day workshop with her.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know anything about it. So I waited
Speaker 3: up to the last day before registration, and I thought, well,
Speaker 3: if I went, then probably a doctor or a nurse,
Speaker 3: or a social worker or you know, somebody in the
Speaker 3: medical profession would not be able to attend if I went.
Speaker 3: So I called her office in Illinois to speak to
Speaker 3: her secretary, I thought, and I was going to apologize
Speaker 3: and say very much, thank you, very much for inviting me,
Speaker 3: but really, you know, get my seat away, don't hold
Speaker 3: a place for me for somebody who could make a
Speaker 3: bigger difference in the field of death and dying. And however,
Speaker 3: that particular day was snowing in Illinois, and Elizabeth answered
Speaker 3: her own phone denised her voice immediately. So bringing this
Speaker 3: into context, imagine calling some movie star or somebody like that,
Speaker 3: and you know Jennifer Aniston, and you get her right
Speaker 3: on the phone. It's her. It's not you know, a
Speaker 3: machine or somebody else that works there. But it was Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: So I went to my little routine about thank you
Speaker 3: for inviting me, but and she listened patiently, and then
Speaker 3: she simply said, in her German Swiss accent, Miria, I
Speaker 3: think you should be there, And I just point out
Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna push over for dominant women, because
Speaker 3: I said, well, Elizabeth, if you think so, I will,
Speaker 3: And six months later, sure enough, I was there for
Speaker 3: five days. It was about the workshop was not about
Speaker 3: duck and dying. It was about life and living and
Speaker 3: people releasing their grief for their pain, their sorrow, all
Speaker 3: kinds of things, not just death by having been abused,
Speaker 3: having been this out or the other throughout life, you know,
Speaker 3: all the different emotions, and we bonded so much. That's
Speaker 3: by the end of the workshop we all wanted to
Speaker 3: just call our immediate family members and friends and go
Speaker 3: off to an island together and never go back to reality.
Speaker 3: It was so incredibly loving. I've never experienced in a
Speaker 3: group the love we shared in those few days, which
Speaker 3: Bill Bill filt throughout the workshop. The big point is
Speaker 3: that on that Thursday evening she flew Raymond Moody down
Speaker 3: from Virginia to Florida where the workshop was to speak
Speaker 3: to us. And he spoke about us in your Death's
Speaker 3: Experience research and whatnot in his book, and a couple
Speaker 3: of people or three people talked about they had had
Speaker 3: one of.
Speaker 2: Those This is a good time to go into our
Speaker 2: first break, isn't Bill Guggenheim? Just down to earth. You
Speaker 2: never know how one TV show or a conversation with
Speaker 2: a person can make a difference. Raymond Moody, Elizabeth Koopler
Speaker 2: Ross made a huge difference in Bill's eyes. Little did
Speaker 2: he know he would be one of the biggest after
Speaker 2: life pioneers with his book Hello from Heaven and We'll
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Speaker 2: This is Afterlife expert Danid Brakleace and into the iHeartRadio
Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast AM Aeronormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and you
Speaker 2: are listening to a conversation I had with the late
Speaker 2: great Bill Guggenheim, co author of Hello from Heaven. You
Speaker 2: just never know when an ordinary everyday person is someone
Speaker 2: who can make a big difference. So last he was
Speaker 2: talking about a workshop with Elizabeth Koobler Ross and doctor
Speaker 2: Raymond Moody was there.
Speaker 3: How, Vanna went into another direction where a woman claimed
Speaker 3: that her daughter had been hidden killed by a driver
Speaker 3: of a car accident away when the daughter was walking
Speaker 3: with a friend. So both these teenage girls were killed.
Speaker 3: She had what she called a dream in which she
Speaker 3: saw her daughter conversed with her. The dream was very,
Speaker 3: very healing. It it had occurred about a year before,
Speaker 3: and this woman was a nurse herself, and she accepted
Speaker 3: it fully as being authentic and real and an actual
Speaker 3: contact from her daughter. And then she went on to
Speaker 3: say how her son had seen his sister while he
Speaker 3: was doing his homework one evening scared him and he
Speaker 3: went running into the living room and saying, Kaffi's there,
Speaker 3: Kaffiy's air, and he described what she was wearing and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And I had never heard of anything like this before ever,
Speaker 3: anyone who had died. Was my praise was when you're dead,
Speaker 3: you're dead, you know, and the body is white, a flash,
Speaker 3: white battery and the juice runs out. You throw it away. Wow,
Speaker 3: those were live views. So I was I was very
Speaker 3: skeptical about this. I thought it was very nice that
Speaker 3: the mother had a dream, but when she called her
Speaker 3: a dream, I dismissed that he not real. And when
Speaker 3: the boy gave his account of saying, sister, and so
Speaker 3: your teenage boy in little marijuana, who knows what?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Probably a drug reaction, And so that went away. But
Speaker 3: then Elizabeth went on to narrate a story in which
Speaker 3: a patient of hers had died ten months earlier, came
Speaker 3: back to Elizabeth made Elizabeth make a promise that she
Speaker 3: would not quit her work, because there was a great
Speaker 3: deal of pressure on Elizabeth at that point, opposition by
Speaker 3: the medical community to stop doing what she was doing,
Speaker 3: even though she worked in a hospital and everything, and
Speaker 3: she was a full fledged American psychiatrist at that point,
Speaker 3: although her background was from Switzerland. When finished, when Elizabeth
Speaker 3: finished her long story, which is in our books, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to go through it. You could literally hear
Speaker 3: a pin drop would have sounded like a crowbar following
Speaker 3: on a concrete floor or something. It was so dramatic,
Speaker 3: And so I went home with the idea, well, if
Speaker 3: it happened to one person, Elizabeth Koola Ross, who had
Speaker 3: everything to lose and nothing to gain by telling this experience,
Speaker 3: I felt maybe taped to some other people now and
Speaker 3: back then in nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, late seventies
Speaker 3: throughout the eighties, there was no Internet or anything like it.
Speaker 3: It was the interlibrary loan system. So I was able
Speaker 3: to get books from anywhere in the country that I
Speaker 3: could locate, or you know, a title over in Arthur
Speaker 3: or whatever. And so I would get a book here,
Speaker 3: in a book there, and there'd be one accound or
Speaker 3: two accounts its, maybe three of something like this, and
Speaker 3: one had a whole chapter on it, you know, had
Speaker 3: of all the books that have ever been written, one
Speaker 3: had a chapter. And I was curious, and I didn't
Speaker 3: know what to do about it. But I went to
Speaker 3: Raymond Moody, who I had gotten to know myself again,
Speaker 3: the father of near death experience research, and I asked,
Speaker 3: I figured if he wrote the book, it would get attention.
Speaker 3: And well, Raymond never said no, he never said yes,
Speaker 3: And he kept postponing me for years because and I
Speaker 3: even found a man who he worked with up in Georgia,
Speaker 3: so he would find people to interview, so the three
Speaker 3: of us would work together. But it never happened, and
Speaker 3: I finally had an experience of hearing a voice, my
Speaker 3: old head say do your own research, write your own book.
Speaker 3: It's your spiritual work to do. And so it was
Speaker 3: back on me and I didn't know. I mean I
Speaker 3: could figure out what to do, yes, but I had
Speaker 3: done it, and that was very simply find people who
Speaker 3: had had some kind of experience, have been contacted by
Speaker 3: love when who would die, and interviewed them. That was
Speaker 3: my messondolity, very simple. I called my former wife Q
Speaker 3: come over, and we had been married seventeen years. We
Speaker 3: were divorced for four years, but I had shared all
Speaker 3: my information and interest in this with her before where
Speaker 3: you were divorced, and even afterwards, and so she did it.
Speaker 3: Even that day when she was there for an hour,
Speaker 3: we got a phone call from somebody telling us about
Speaker 3: accounts this woman's aunt seeing a friend of hers who
Speaker 3: had died having the experience before she was even informed
Speaker 3: that the friend had died.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Evidential. That's what I really wanted to supply in, something
Speaker 3: which could convince me that these weren't just imagination, which
Speaker 3: we were thinking or you know, breathed desire to bereave
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. And the long story short, in
Speaker 3: our book, we did have six chapters of why these
Speaker 3: real and I'll go through that later, but that provides
Speaker 3: evidence within the experience, not just reading it, but the
Speaker 3: content of how they learned, what they learned and whatnot.
Speaker 3: That they learned something they didn't know before or before
Speaker 3: they were told to loved one had died, things like that.
Speaker 3: So with that I plunged. I had. My job was
Speaker 3: to find ten people a week here in Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 3: and I did to who would claim to have such
Speaker 3: an experience because I didn't know if we'd find fifty
Speaker 3: people a year or one hundred and a year. Long
Speaker 3: story short, we interviewed five hundred people the very first year,
Speaker 3: and that led to being in contact with various bereavement
Speaker 3: organizations and asking them to help us by providing people
Speaker 3: who were grieving that's a little loved one, especially grieve parents.
Speaker 3: And we gave our first lecture workshop whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, one year after we began our research,
Speaker 3: which we began in nineteen eighty eight through nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 3: but nineteen eight nine, we gave our first workshop with
Speaker 3: over three hundred people in it all beieve parents Wow.
Speaker 3: And a second one the same day with more than
Speaker 3: two hundred for parents in it. And because another little coincidence,
Speaker 3: I had met a woman who was a reporter for
Speaker 3: the Saint Petersburg Times. She was there and she brought
Speaker 3: a cameraman. So we had a wonderful, beautiful article over
Speaker 3: in the Saint Petersburg newspaper that was written with the
Speaker 3: color photograph and we use that as evidence that our
Speaker 3: research was real and honest and straightforward. And we use
Speaker 3: that throughout the rest of our six years of research
Speaker 3: whenever we contacted anybody, individuals or organizations. So we had
Speaker 3: and there were other stories and other newspapers, including New
Speaker 3: Orlando Sentinel two in there. So we got a great
Speaker 3: deal of publicity before a book was ever published. West
Speaker 3: kept going and going and going. We kept hearing more
Speaker 3: and more experiences, so we didn't stop, and we wound
Speaker 3: up interviewing two thousand people in all fifteen American states
Speaker 3: and all ten Canadian provinces, all backgrounds, all interests, all
Speaker 3: different relationships, everything, and that's in the book. And Hello
Speaker 3: from Heaven contains three hundred and fifty three first hand
Speaker 3: accounts that we planned the books that were all representative
Speaker 3: of all the others we heard.
Speaker 2: How did you pick the three hundred and fifty three
Speaker 2: out of two thousand?
Speaker 3: Basically they fall with the categories we found twelve sounds
Speaker 3: like the zodiacci the twelve categories. Actually there were one
Speaker 3: or two more now, but then there were twelve. They
Speaker 3: just fell into one, such as a feeling or sensing
Speaker 3: the presence, or hearing a voice, or feeling a touch,
Speaker 3: a tactile touch, or a pat of caress, a kiss,
Speaker 3: something like that, or smelling of fragrance of some kind.
Speaker 3: We're actually seeing them. They fall into patterns those types
Speaker 3: of experiences, and within those we found the ones that
Speaker 3: were the clearest and easiest to understand, the best told
Speaker 3: frankly avorbally and edited down to a reasonable amount of
Speaker 3: space in a book. And yes there's a lot of
Speaker 3: hard choices, but we have to not have a thousand
Speaker 3: page books that we do. Nobody would read that.
Speaker 2: What are some of these twelve If you don't mind.
Speaker 3: Hearing a voice, or sensing a presence, or feeling a touch,
Speaker 3: these types of things we go on later into of
Speaker 3: course people call them dreams. We call them sweep state
Speaker 3: ABC's because they're very common. They're not People will go
Speaker 3: through a whole experience and they use the word dream,
Speaker 3: green dream, but then they'll finish plaicing. But it was
Speaker 3: unlike any other dream I ever had. They saw the
Speaker 3: person they communicated. Usually it was detailed, it was personal,
Speaker 3: it was comforting, uplifting, and even other people in their dreams,
Speaker 3: there are a group of people didn't see that person.
Speaker 3: Only they did, so there were unique little twists and
Speaker 3: turns within many of these.
Speaker 2: Do you have any stories of ADCs that continue to
Speaker 2: just like when you think about them, there's no doubt
Speaker 2: this is reality. Any stories you could share with us, Well, the.
Speaker 3: Easiest one is the one I had, and that was
Speaker 3: before we ever began a research. Judy and I were
Speaker 3: owned a home in Longwood, Florida, which is a suburb
Speaker 3: of Orlando, and one Sunday afternoon we had a talk.
Speaker 3: We were in our living room, which was in the
Speaker 3: front of the house, and we had gotten up to
Speaker 3: go on and do whatever it was wrestled that Sunday
Speaker 3: and I heard a thought in my mind very clearly.
Speaker 3: It said go outside and check the swimming pool. It's
Speaker 3: very common in Florida for people to have screened in pools,
Speaker 3: and then you don't have to be a millionaire or
Speaker 3: anything like it. I mean, you look from the air.
Speaker 3: It's hard to fly in some areas and suburban area.
Speaker 3: Houses that don't have pools'll come there. So we had
Speaker 3: a average size screened in pool. And so I walked
Speaker 3: from the front of the house to the rear, which
Speaker 3: had sliding glass doors between us and the pool we
Speaker 3: had about fifteen feet away. There was a wrought iron
Speaker 3: fence and the gate had been left open, and we
Speaker 3: had three sons at that point. Two of the older
Speaker 3: ones used to use that as a shortcut to go
Speaker 3: to the backyard. So from the back door through the
Speaker 3: gate to the pool and around the pool through another
Speaker 3: door outside the pool, And so I went to close
Speaker 3: the gate, and as I did, I had to look
Speaker 3: down at the deep end of the pool. There our
Speaker 3: youngest son, Jonathan was floating and not moving at all,
Speaker 3: and iaginet Nelson's dead. Her alive. He was only less
Speaker 3: than two years old. He didn't know how to swim,
Speaker 3: and I tore her off to the other end of
Speaker 3: the pool and just before I jumped in the water.
Speaker 3: Jonathan was floating face upwards. His arms were a kid boat,
Speaker 3: and he spread out with his legs. His eyes were
Speaker 3: open and he wasn't moving, but he had almost like
Speaker 3: a small smile on his face, him buying memory. And
Speaker 3: so I jumped in the water. I came up under him,
Speaker 3: pushed him to the side, and while I had been
Speaker 3: running down the side, I yelled out, Judy. I screeched
Speaker 3: down Judy. She came running immediately, and she literally pulled
Speaker 3: him out. I pushed him and she told him. He
Speaker 3: both got out. It may the water was still cold.
Speaker 3: I was shivering a bit. We didn't know what yet,
Speaker 3: and within a few seconds he split up water and
Speaker 3: he was flying. He did not even require CPR so quickly.
Speaker 3: How occurred?
Speaker 2: Wow? Incredible story. So important to listen to those gut instincts.
Speaker 2: And in Bill's case, he heard a voice. It's real, folks,
Speaker 2: absolutely real, Hello from Heaven. Time for our next break
Speaker 2: and we'll be back with more. Bill Gougenheim, you're listening
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 2: and we are hearing about Hello from Heaven from the
Speaker 2: late Bill Gougenheim. He just told us a story about
Speaker 2: hearing a message check the swimming pool where he found
Speaker 2: his two year old boy floating and subsequently survived. Let's
Speaker 2: continue and other.
Speaker 3: People's Hello from Heaven. I received messages to look out
Speaker 3: and check the bar, and in that case the bar
Speaker 3: was on fire and would have spread to the house
Speaker 3: or built board that aeroplane and then later on the
Speaker 3: plane crashes. Wow, they're all the plane will crash. Won't
Speaker 3: get on. Just don't get on that plane. If your
Speaker 3: listeners don't believe a word I say, that's up to them.
Speaker 3: But if you ever ever receive information about slow down now,
Speaker 3: or stop your car now, or anything like that, please
Speaker 3: be good about it and listen to that voice and
Speaker 3: heat it because it will probably save your life or
Speaker 3: at least prevent you from having a serious accident.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about a few other these kinds of
Speaker 2: after death communications, because I think we can have them
Speaker 2: and not realize we're having. I'm like, for instance, smelling
Speaker 2: my grandmother's perfume or something like that. You know, that
Speaker 2: could be a very real communication, couldn't it.
Speaker 3: It's a whole chapter in All from Heaven about that.
Speaker 3: You can smell a perfume and cologne, favorite food, favorite beverage,
Speaker 3: could be a sachet was reported. The sense of the
Speaker 3: baby can be reported anything to do with smelling something
Speaker 3: like that, And which makes them the most interesting in
Speaker 3: a way, because this is a category of all the
Speaker 3: types of experiences that other people can share and do
Speaker 3: share easily. So let's pretend you're calling me from northern
Speaker 3: Minnesota in the middle of a blizzards snow outside, no
Speaker 3: flowers anywhere, and you're working in an office in a
Speaker 3: big building, in a cubicle or whatever, and there's no
Speaker 3: flowers and there's no colonne, there's no perfume of anything,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you start smelling violets, which
Speaker 3: may not even be a flower native to there, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but you smell my life, and well, I
Speaker 3: like to remind you that what you say your mother's
Speaker 3: favorite flower when she was alive, and you, guys, feel
Speaker 3: surrounded by lilacs and uplifted, and you feel a warm
Speaker 3: hug from your mother emotionally, and you say thank your
Speaker 3: mom or whatever, and somebody comes along and you go sniff, sniffles,
Speaker 3: smell it. Oh yes, it's flowers, flylax, and they'll smell it.
Speaker 3: And a third person will come along in a four
Speaker 3: and aft. So these and we have one in which
Speaker 3: twelve people all smell the same roses when there are
Speaker 3: no roses there. So that's evidential, where there's two or
Speaker 3: more people at the same time, in the same place,
Speaker 3: sharing the same experience, again with no words involved, without
Speaker 3: anybody saying, oh do you smell that, not prompting them
Speaker 3: or listening Oh yes, yes, you know, cause you know
Speaker 3: to say yes, but stay on their own noticing it
Speaker 3: and commenting on it.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about telephone calls? I just want to
Speaker 2: share something that one of the listeners told me that
Speaker 2: her dad had a close friend who had passed away.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how long it was after the
Speaker 2: guy had passed away, but this gentleman's cell phone rang
Speaker 2: that it was from the guy who died, and of
Speaker 2: course he couldn't have dialed it because you know, he
Speaker 2: was gone. So he the fella just assumed that, well,
Speaker 2: somebody else must have gotten the number or something like that,
Speaker 2: so he dialed the number back and the number had
Speaker 2: been disconnected.
Speaker 3: Yes, this was just coming in as we were finishing
Speaker 3: our researcher where you would have had more on net
Speaker 3: regarding cell phones, pagers, and computers, and people have received
Speaker 3: messages on your computers and this is not an email
Speaker 3: from us, you know us, somebody trying to make them
Speaker 3: feel good, or somebody's trying to spoof them. This is
Speaker 3: just a little message for them on a computer. Or
Speaker 3: hearing telephone calls. It's not uncommon, it's not the most common,
Speaker 3: but it's the smallest category. But one man wrote a
Speaker 3: whole book on it called Phone Calls from the Dead.
Speaker 3: He's a parapsychologist and who I read his book long
Speaker 3: and many years ago. But what it is is imagine
Speaker 3: your okay two forms. When is when you're asleep. Now
Speaker 3: maybe you can accept it more easily that you're sleeping
Speaker 3: and the phone rings that you hear in your head
Speaker 3: and you pick it up and it's your ant parent
Speaker 3: or your child or whoever it is. You can accept
Speaker 3: that more readily than actually seeing them and person who
Speaker 3: are you know during a so called dream, six stage,
Speaker 3: ADC or whatever, and you have a two way conversation
Speaker 3: with them, buy telephone and hang up, and that's that, okay.
Speaker 3: But what about when you're wide awake. Let's say you're
Speaker 3: in the kitchen, you're cooking or cleaning up, or some
Speaker 3: other room of a house doing whatever you're doing, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Wherever you are, could be a business even, and the
Speaker 3: phone rings, you pick it up, and it's the voice
Speaker 3: of your love one who died, and they communicate to you.
Speaker 3: They speak to you, and you can have one way
Speaker 3: or two way communication with them during this type or
Speaker 3: other types of experiences as well, but to one a
Speaker 3: two way communication and generally their voice then begins to
Speaker 3: fade away and that's the end of it. But there's
Speaker 3: never a hang up or a disconnect sound or a
Speaker 3: dial tone. It just phades away. And in some cases
Speaker 3: they can be on a cell phone there it can
Speaker 3: show the phone number. But if you die, what that's
Speaker 3: not valid or whatever. But we have the whole chapter
Speaker 3: in the on phone calls yes.
Speaker 2: What's the most common kind of ADC?
Speaker 3: The most common one is perhaps not the most interesting
Speaker 3: because it's the hardest to imagine, like you've already felt it.
Speaker 3: But it's called feeling or sensing the presence. You just
Speaker 3: feel the person is around you or near you in
Speaker 3: your vicinity. And many people can point to where in
Speaker 3: the room, like over to my laughter, to my right,
Speaker 3: or behind me, and they can report a change in temperature.
Speaker 3: Sometimes occasionally the temperature may rise or decline, sometimes drastically.
Speaker 3: And they will also know when that's no longer there,
Speaker 3: when the person is left. But they'll say, oh, that's it.
Speaker 3: Mayory just died, or that's so and so. It's usually
Speaker 3: somebody is not quite as close to them, and they say, well,
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I'm upset because I'm thinking about them,
Speaker 3: or something like that. So that's why I imagined this.
Speaker 3: But really they are feeling it. They know what. But
Speaker 3: because in our culture we discard so many things like
Speaker 3: that as not real, they throw it away. In other cases,
Speaker 3: it's maybe their deceased husband arrived or child. Others can
Speaker 3: go on for months and even years, and what we
Speaker 3: say is very simply is not that they just want
Speaker 3: you to feel their presence. But they're not just letting
Speaker 3: you know they're there. There's something you can do right here,
Speaker 3: right now when you have that occur, and that is
Speaker 3: sit down, relax, relax your body as much as you can,
Speaker 3: close your eyes, take a few deep breats, just like
Speaker 3: your untermeditation, and open your mind and ask we see
Speaker 3: the message. At first, you're, you know, your mind just
Speaker 3: turning away, usual mind shatter. But you should in time
Speaker 3: receive a message from them, because they want to communicate
Speaker 3: with you. Want more than to just give you a
Speaker 3: fragrance for you to spell, or a touch or things
Speaker 3: like that. They want to communicate something primal. And there's
Speaker 3: a whole list of those. I'll be happy to get
Speaker 3: into it a minute. But feeling the presence is the
Speaker 3: most common, and I would say the sweep States so
Speaker 3: called dream is the second was common. Here's the body
Speaker 3: analogy because I was doing I have a lot of
Speaker 3: time in the works. Now. How hard is it to
Speaker 3: get hold of somebody today? You call them on the phone,
Speaker 3: you get wife mail, right, you have to send them
Speaker 3: an email. You may and may not get back to you.
Speaker 3: For a day or two, you call them on and
Speaker 3: on and on all these different ways, and yet we're
Speaker 3: further apart of me. And the joke is about kids
Speaker 3: who can text, and they're doing incessively, But if you
Speaker 3: put the same kids in the same room together, they
Speaker 3: don't know what to say to each other. And by
Speaker 3: the way, they have no idea what to say with
Speaker 3: real words right out of their mouth. And so we're
Speaker 3: clos there by texting and tweeting and all this, but
Speaker 3: we're further away from each other in terms of emotionality
Speaker 3: and harsh health words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I first got into this, I had
Speaker 2: so much fear of telling people that I was looking
Speaker 2: into life after death and looking for proof, and these
Speaker 2: are the things I came up with. Bill. I thought
Speaker 2: people were going to think I was crazy, so I
Speaker 2: kept my mouth shut. And I think so many people
Speaker 2: have had experiences and might be afraid to share.
Speaker 3: That was the biggest surprise as we did our research,
Speaker 3: because people said to us, I had my experience five years,
Speaker 3: ten year, twenty years ago, and you're the first person
Speaker 3: I've ever told, or you're the first people we've told
Speaker 3: outside of my immediate family or friends, and so many
Speaker 3: people said that that I knew our book, if nothing else,
Speaker 3: would validate their experiences for each other. And that's why
Speaker 3: we chose the format of having three hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: three first hand accounts. It's not about Juliet Bill Googianhang,
Speaker 3: and I don't care if we have PhDs, He's still
Speaker 3: not going to reach more people than by having the
Speaker 3: account and the experience's own words, first hand accounts, in
Speaker 3: other words, that they can read and a sign for
Speaker 3: themselves or these authentic or not. And that's what we
Speaker 3: wanted to do, and that's what we did. And books
Speaker 3: are not usually done this way because it's very little
Speaker 3: of us in the book, and we're not trying to
Speaker 3: be the experts. So this means this, and that means that,
Speaker 3: and of course you must believe such and such. We
Speaker 3: wanted their readers to read these accounts and make their
Speaker 3: own objective opinion of what they thought it meant. And
Speaker 3: I loved as one comment, you know on Amazon, this
Speaker 3: guy I said, I believe it was a man who
Speaker 3: kept reading a book and then throwing it against the
Speaker 3: wall we're discussed, but then started to read it again.
Speaker 3: And they said he could put it down well, there's.
Speaker 2: Such a battle in our minds. Even as long as
Speaker 2: I've been involved with this, you know, little voice in
Speaker 2: my head sometimes tells me I'm losing my mind. None
Speaker 2: of it happened, you know. I think we all can
Speaker 2: find you know that we fight that negative.
Speaker 3: You have to realize what we didn't really elaborate on
Speaker 3: because we couldn't in our book, is what we regard
Speaker 3: as these types of experiences or near death experiences. It
Speaker 3: seems like this as being weird or different or out there,
Speaker 3: and they're called parapsychological, paranormal, and other words meaning not
Speaker 3: real as far as through science goes. These occur in
Speaker 3: other parts of the world, such as Central and South America,
Speaker 3: parts of Europe, the Far East, especially in the Philippines,
Speaker 3: where people have these experiences at night, will say share
Speaker 3: them with their friends and family members the next day,
Speaker 3: openly and easily, and they're accepted fully. We're the ones
Speaker 3: was blinders on. We're the ones that don't accept what
Speaker 3: the rest of the world does accept. And it's all
Speaker 3: because our whole society is so scientifically oriented. It goes
Speaker 3: back to the Sun revolves around the Earth, and that
Speaker 3: was disproven and this was a disclimer, and that was
Speaker 3: this route, and science gradually ascended be the master of
Speaker 3: the truth. And if science obayed it was true, and
Speaker 3: it didn't, Okay, it wasn't true.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the truth? Wow? We're going to go into
Speaker 2: our last break, and when we come back, we'll hear
Speaker 2: a few more words from the wonderful Bill Guggenheim, remembering
Speaker 2: his work and remembering his life. You're listening to Shades
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
Speaker 2: a dear friend of mine says we are only dead
Speaker 2: if we are forgotten. Bill Guggenheim passed with a great book,
Speaker 2: Hello from Heaven. In it are so many different accounts
Speaker 2: of great reasons and signs that you can believe in
Speaker 2: the afterlife. It's been te translated into many languages. He
Speaker 2: has spoken on the topic, not just to me, but
Speaker 2: so many others. Take a look on YouTube. Type in
Speaker 2: Bill Guggenheim. See who this wonderful man is. And I
Speaker 2: say is because he is still working, no doubt on
Speaker 2: behalf of humanity from the other side. Bill going to
Speaker 2: raise a glass and toast you. A little bit later,
Speaker 2: I'd like to continue on with just a few more
Speaker 2: words from Bill. He was just talking about science and
Speaker 2: if science can't believe something, we human beings tend not
Speaker 2: to believe.
Speaker 3: And if science obayed it was true, if he didn't, okay,
Speaker 3: it wasn't true. And now the latest thing is is
Speaker 3: consciousness located in the brain or is it out outside
Speaker 3: of the brain? Non local consciousness? Whereas consciousness existing, we
Speaker 3: don't realize we all were raised with the same religion.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying we're Catholics or products and Jews or whatever.
Speaker 3: There's another religion we were raised with from first grade
Speaker 3: or preschool on right through college and PhDs, and that
Speaker 3: is science. Science is a way of looking at Earth,
Speaker 3: life on Earth and evaluating it in a certain way.
Speaker 3: And it's fine for physical matter, I'm not disputing it,
Speaker 3: and energy in those things, but it's no good for
Speaker 3: these areas and that. Yet we attribute it as being
Speaker 3: intallible and having the last word and everything. And so
Speaker 3: we're the ones who are starving and fearful about death.
Speaker 3: I hear from the many Hawsess people, how many people
Speaker 3: die hanging on to life with their fingernails because of
Speaker 3: their religion and science. They're afraid that they're going to
Speaker 3: go to hell or to oblivion, one or the other.
Speaker 3: You know, right, that's a scary way to Yes, it is.
Speaker 3: And they look at and they act it and they
Speaker 3: speak it if they can speak, and that's the way
Speaker 3: they leave this planet, leave this life. They don't have to.
Speaker 3: That's between science and some performs the religious belief. That's
Speaker 3: what there's not's with typically though, let me give you
Speaker 3: the positive. The positive is that many people, even if
Speaker 3: they've been in a coma well for a few moments
Speaker 3: before they make their transition, they open their eyes, they
Speaker 3: sit up, they're smiling. They will sometimes mentioned or a
Speaker 3: point or indicate that their deceased loved one or one
Speaker 3: or more loved ones are present and have a big
Speaker 3: smile and in a way saying I'll be with you
Speaker 3: in a moment. And then they take their last breath
Speaker 3: and they're gone, that they have a whole welcoming committee
Speaker 3: waiting for them and escorting them to the light.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: A lot has happened since Elizabeth Koper Lobster did her research,
Speaker 3: and the books on near death experiences and our book
Speaker 3: Allow from Heaven and all the other books when after
Speaker 3: deathrification as they said earlier, and someone out of body experiences,
Speaker 3: and the number of celebrities that have come forward shared
Speaker 3: of their experiences in popular media. All these are kipping
Speaker 3: away at this really agnostic or atheistic viewpoint that there
Speaker 3: ain't no more and there sure is.
Speaker 2: How many people would you say, have these experiences more
Speaker 2: people than not? Or do you have any idea?
Speaker 3: Yes? There was a poll conducted that indicates before we
Speaker 3: ever began our work, and indicated that it was around
Speaker 3: forty three forty four percent of all Americans have had
Speaker 3: one and after death communication experience. Now that's if you
Speaker 3: include all the population about now over three hundred million,
Speaker 3: you're speaking about one hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 3: About a third I'm going to say a third conservatively
Speaker 3: has had one a third of the population. But then
Speaker 3: take into account many people have never been to RIDD
Speaker 3: certainly young yes, and many older people there's never been
Speaker 3: that close to somebody who's died. Maybe it was a grandparent,
Speaker 3: but they just weren't that close to that grandparents or whoever,
Speaker 3: so they haven't dealt with this. Or if they had
Speaker 3: somebody who come back, they wouldn't have recognized him more.
Speaker 3: It would have blown it off very easily. Wow, just
Speaker 3: just discounted it. And that's sad, but it's the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: I know I've spoken to people and they've heard stories
Speaker 2: of other people that get these communications. Is there something
Speaker 2: people can do to increase their chances? I mean, I
Speaker 2: know you said to be open, and I do think
Speaker 2: having a quiet mind, and like you said, asking for
Speaker 2: communication is important. But is there anything we can do
Speaker 2: or pay attention to differently to help have one.
Speaker 3: What I say is, first of all, ask asking is
Speaker 3: a former prayer if you like that word or not.
Speaker 3: But asking is a form of being open. You're admitting
Speaker 3: you there's something more you would like, So ask the
Speaker 3: person we'd like to hear from to come back to
Speaker 3: you in some form. So just playing to ask. But
Speaker 3: this this sincerity, not just off the top of your head. Okay,
Speaker 3: try with to me. No whe the cynical by it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Now you pray with to me and maybe i'll maybe
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I'll consider No, not's not asking, I mean
Speaker 3: asking was it be sincere or open loving heart? And
Speaker 3: maybe they want to give a message to somebody else
Speaker 3: and offered to be a service to them, to give
Speaker 3: a message to maybe their spouse or another child or
Speaker 3: whoever it may be. But asking is a form of
Speaker 3: being open, and it's a form of prayer, and it
Speaker 3: creates an openness in your mind, in your emotions, and
Speaker 3: you're in the possible for what is possible. Because that's
Speaker 3: what we're talking about, what is possible. It's amazing as
Speaker 3: they say that, I know atheists and foxhols, well here
Speaker 3: nobody has to be an atheist or agnostics. So you
Speaker 3: don't have to tell anybody if it doesn't happen, or
Speaker 3: even if it does happen, you don't have to tell anybody.
Speaker 3: Let's see what happens now. The other thing is, which
Speaker 3: is very positive. Yes, learn how to meditate.
Speaker 2: Meditation does take time, but quieting your mind and just
Speaker 2: being in that present moment of mindfulness you can do
Speaker 2: it in a second. Like I said in the beginning,
Speaker 2: being present to your feelings is the entryway for so much.
Speaker 2: And as Bill said, ask Bill was kind enough to
Speaker 2: send me a beautiful laminated sheet called who Do You
Speaker 2: Think You Are? And I'm delighted that it's also posted
Speaker 2: on his website, Bill Guggenheim dot com. I'd like to
Speaker 2: read this to you. These are words from Bill who
Speaker 2: do You Think You Are? When you were born this
Speaker 2: world with partial amnesia, These reminders will make your life happier, easier,
Speaker 2: and more fulfilling. You are an eternal soul who lives
Speaker 2: primarily in the spirit world. You chose your current lifetime
Speaker 2: and physical reality aboard Spaceship Earth as a student enrolled
Speaker 2: in the human experience to achieve spiritual growth in a
Speaker 2: universe of duality. You carefully selected your gender race, color, nationality, culture, talent, education,
Speaker 2: and other personal characteristics. All your choices will provide lessons
Speaker 2: you will learn and lessons you will teach others. You
Speaker 2: picked out your physical body, the earth suit you're wearing
Speaker 2: to function in this space. Time to mention. One day
Speaker 2: it will stop working and you will continue to exist.
Speaker 2: You mutually agreed to your primary relationships grandparents, parents, part children, pets,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Be aware that every person and every experience
Speaker 2: is your teacher. You chose Earth to experience human emotions
Speaker 2: and elevate your consciousness. You're also here to learn to
Speaker 2: love every person unconditionally. To master these spiritual lessons, treat
Speaker 2: everyone with loving kindness, including yourself. To assure abundance, be humble,
Speaker 2: serve others lovingly, express gratitude often, be understanding, compassionate, and forgiving.
Speaker 2: Acquire serenity, courage, and wisdom. Nurture others and yourself. Be creative,
Speaker 2: Always do your best, and celebrate life joyfully. To expand
Speaker 2: your awareness and develop your inner intuitive senses, meditate daily.
Speaker 2: This will broaden your spirituality and deepen your relationship with
Speaker 2: the source. Learn to tune in trust and act upon
Speaker 2: your intuition. It offers clarity, insight, and practical guidance for
Speaker 2: all your situations, and it will empower you to make
Speaker 2: your best decisions. If you can't recall your purpose in life,
Speaker 2: pray it will be revealed. Of course, you have free will,
Speaker 2: and you can live any lifestyle you are able to create.
Speaker 2: You will receive everything you need for spiritual growth, but
Speaker 2: not necessarily what you want. Your sole plan and consciousness
Speaker 2: determine the experiences, people, and things you will attract. Do
Speaker 2: not judge others. You do not know what they came
Speaker 2: here to learn. Like the leaves on a huge tree,
Speaker 2: all people are connected to each other and part of
Speaker 2: the source. Do everything you can do to relieve suffering,
Speaker 2: inspire healing, harmony, and unity. When your physical body dies,
Speaker 2: when you graduate, you will bring with you all of
Speaker 2: the love and kindness you have shared, your memories, and
Speaker 2: the lessons you have learned. After your transition, you will
Speaker 2: have a life review. You will relive every thought, feeling, word,
Speaker 2: and action of your entire lifetime and experience how they
Speaker 2: affected everyone else. Remember, you are a being of light,
Speaker 2: an immortal spirit. You are enrolled in the human experience
Speaker 2: to learn spiritual love, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, wisdom, peace, etc. Eventually,
Speaker 2: your physical body will die and you will return to heaven.
Speaker 2: There you will have joyous reunions with all of your
Speaker 2: deceased loved ones who are looking forward to your arrival
Speaker 2: and last love one another, Serve one another, honor the source.
Speaker 2: Life and love are eternal. Thank you, Bill, and thank
Speaker 2: you for Hello from Heaven. As a reminder of my friends,
Speaker 2: we Don't Die dot com is your home base for
Speaker 2: all past episodes of my podcasts. Also to receive a
Speaker 2: free copy of my book and to your name and
Speaker 2: email address on the bottom of that homepage, come join
Speaker 2: one of our medium classes. See what your soul is
Speaker 2: made of. You're pretty incredible. And last but not least,
Speaker 2: come join our free Sunday gathering. It's pretty darn special.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades of
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