WEBVTT - Flammable 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.920 Ka boom. If you thought four hours a day, hundred 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.160 minutes a week was enough, I think again. He's the 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:12.320 last remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.400 He treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.599 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.439 Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:31.880 with Ben Maller starts right now that it is welcome 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.440 in the Fifth Hour with Ben at Mallard. Because four 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.960 hours a night are not enough, we do this now 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.839 eight days a week, Happy Friday, Friday Friday. This of 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.680 course a spinoff of the Overnight Show, but only in 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.519 the podcast format, so we can say naughty words. We 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.280 can say bad words here on this podcast. Joined yet 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.400 again making his way, and we're in a new studio. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.680 It must have had a little different We're in a 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.680 new studio this week. May taking his way in from 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:07.520 west of the four oh five. David Gascon is right here. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:13.679 Oh you have that little that sound, crowd ping, crowd boys, 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.360 crowd always finds away in what's the four oh five? 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.160 Things are just a little bit different here, as I 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.360 know you are aware. My um my Tomahawk steaks are 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.880 are nicely cooked and commonly basted with the guitarry hockey 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.080 sauce and onions in the whole nine yards. And uh yeah, 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.399 I continue to bring in elite guests as we have 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.000 one on deck as we speak, Yes, warming up in 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.640 the on deck circle right now, So we don't have 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.319 time to get into culinary arts. I will tell you 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.680 I made, I made, I have perfected the Mallard pizza, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.240 the garlic onion, bell pepper Mark Mallard pizza. It is 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.280 a masterpiece. I'm thinking about opening up my own pizzeria 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.360 if this radi of thing doesn't work out, and I'm 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.560 just gonna get into the pizza business. Is that good? Uh? 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.240 And I was gonna send you a picture, but you 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.720 probably would have been so jealous you would have demanded 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.160 that I make a Mallard pizza for you. So I 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.280 didn't do that. But we'll talk about that at some 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.160 point over the weekend. We will get into that. But 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.480 but right now, I am very excited. This is a 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.760 guy who has been around. I've followed him at the 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.720 Big Lead, I've I've only met him once or twice 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.120 over the years. He's got a very popular podcast. Now 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:36.720 the Straight Fire Podcast. Jason McIntyre, he's multimedia, he's it 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.560 was part of the Big Lead. He sold the Big Lead. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.239 I'm sure we'll get to that at some point. He 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.440 is a hot take artists. He's he's had some viral 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.839 takes on Lebron and he currently loves Luca don Chick 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.200 of the Dallas Maverige. I think you'd like to have 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.480 Luca's child. He loves him so much. And he's a 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.919 bit of a Clipper hater, which is troubling to me. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.680 But Jason McIntyre is his name. Hot takes is his game. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.720 So welcome in, Jason. And you've got this daily podcast. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.720 I know you've been doing it a while with iHeart 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.320 the Straight Fired Podcast. And how the heck is it going? 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.440 Thanks for having me? I mean you'd have to ask 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.200 the Big Boss is how it's going. I rarely look 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.520 at the numbers or asked for them. But it's hell 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.239 of fun, man. We started back in August, and uh, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:32.200 you know it's it's it's fun during NFL, it's funduring NBA. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.680 We haven't got to the dog days this summer yet. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 Where I don't know, I guess I'm gonna have to 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.440 talk about baseball every day. Uh, you know, basically, we're 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.520 trying to capture the zeitgeist and figure out what the 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.040 biggest story in sports is and hit on it and 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.080 have a take. Um it's it's a lot of fun. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.680 I can't recall a time I've had more fun than 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.280 you know, when I started out at FS one in 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.120 that's cool. And so do you have a battle plan 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.640 Jason for the summer time, which is it's been called 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.839 the dead zone in sports radio and sports conversation. So 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.560 are you just gonna like, do the NFL upcoming? You know, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.000 a list that kind of stuff, and what is your 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.760 battle plan here? Yeah? I mean I love the NFL. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.719 It's my bread and butter. I love gambling. But I 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.040 figured we could probably just argue about Jordan and Lebron 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.760 every day for a month and that might work. Uh. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.920 People seem to have I mean, you know when they 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.320 do give me numbers on the pod, they're like, holy cow, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.279 this Steph Curry take it just went bonkers and drove 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.560 huge numbers. I'm like, really, what do they say? Ben, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.279 You've been in radio forever. Play the hits. I'll argue 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.640 with anybody you know back in when I was a kid. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.440 It's funny. One of my teachers, I think it was 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.440 third grade at parent teacher night was like, you know, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.080 Jason's going to make a lawyer one day because he 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.880 he loves to argue with me. And it was like 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.560 third grade, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.640 be a lawyer. And you know, then you look into 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.559 it and you're like, oh, yeah, it's four more years 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.760 of school after no shot of that. But yeah, I mean, like, listen, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.640 I love sports debate. It's fun. So, Jason, you mentioned gambling, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.680 and uh, I've heard stories a prolific gambler. Are you 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.120 a chop dog type of gambler? How would you describe 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.679 your gambling philosophy over the gut instinct or the team 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.880 or the player? Uh? You always want the best number. Um. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.960 And you know, when I was back at the Big Lead, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.120 like you know, I started doing a weekly NFL gambling 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.479 thing and I was able through somebody I knew, to 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.640 get already laying to submit gambling picks. Uh. You know, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.320 I was like betting against already laying for fun. And 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.640 you know, Frankly Alread Lange was like on the Stern 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.960 Show and things were going well for him, and then 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.960 they deteriorated pretty quickly. Uh. And I eventually didn't know 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.600 at the end of the season if already Lang was 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.880 submitting picks or it was like the middleman, you know, 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.200 his guy, Um. But you know, I'll put my numbers 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.160 up against anybody. My NBA Playoff numbers this year not 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.839 very good. Uh, but you know, gambling is so fun. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.800 I think I got my first trip to Vegas, and 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.960 I'm like, Okay, this is amazing. Hey, Jason, I know 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.120 that one of the things that I first heard you 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.839 talk about when when you actually came to the network. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.360 Were there the super contests? Uh in Vegas? Most people 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.400 don't know what that is. Can you explain that for 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.800 the audience? Yeah, you gotta pick against the spread games 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.720 every week for the entires, and anybody can every week 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.120 run And I think I was like top ten twice 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.920 early in the season. But sticking with it, man is brutal. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.560 I always create her right around Thanksgiving because you know, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.719 you could stay harble every September October and then like 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:45.640 the holidays come up, family trying orchestrate travel and you 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.800 actually have to pay attention to your family a little 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.960 bit and all of a sudden. Every year at Thanksgiving, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.120 I just start struggling and that usually carries over. I've 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.799 never cashed. I've come close, uh usually the top fifty cash. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.520 But as the as the super content US has expanded, UM, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.920 and now there's other sports books doing it, so there's 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.480 multiple versions of it. UM. I think everybody's gonna get involved. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.760 They really, you know, this day, they've got to open 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.840 it up so you don't have to be in Vegas 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.000 and you can enter because I'm I mean in August, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.720 I'm gonna have to make that you know, five hour 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.720 drive there, four and a half whatever, and then sign 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.680 up for the contest, turn around to drive home, Like 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.040 I'm gonna have to do that in the day. I 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.520 did that last year. I left it like four thirty 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.360 in the morning to beat the l A traffic. UM. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.200 And it sucks, but driving through the desert in August 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.320 is obviously a lot of fun. See you are You 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.080 are a unique guy, and Jason, I think you are 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.960 the second person ever on Ben's podcast to actually live 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.320 west of the four h Fire Freeway. So I want 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.240 to welcome you personally as another guy west of the 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.559 four or five Crew Way. We are an elite group 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:55.040 of people. Ben condemns us. Uh, well, no, listen, listen. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.640 You know the landscape Jason in l A. There is 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.600 the west of the four oh five, and then there's 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.520 east of the four or five. That's like a point 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.320 of demarcation in southern California. And I point this out 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.560 to Gascon and he does not seem to embrace it. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.400 He pushes back on it. But if you've spent any 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.240 time in southern California, you know, like that's the beach 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.280 communities are west of the four h five, right, most 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.480 almost all of them, and then east of the four 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.920 oh five is mostly the working class people. That's where 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:30.440 the working class people live east of the four oh five. Okay, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.280 so explainant the people west of the four or five 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:40.200 don't work well, well, no, they have less less physical jobs, right, Yeah. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.959 The people east of the four or five are getting 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.880 gunk under their fingernails and they're you know, they're getting 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.720 they're back pain all the time and that kind of thing. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.920 And then it's you know, it's different west of the 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.280 four oh five. It's suntane ocean, palm trees, cocktails. I mean, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.360 it's a different lifestyle west of the four oh five. Okay, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.080 you know again, I'm a newbie, so I'm not familiar 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.880 with this line of demarcation. I will say it is 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.760 a different vibe east of the four oh five when 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.160 you drive to the Hollywood Bowl or uh you know 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.320 you go to go even going to work, uh you know, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.600 on the Fox lot. But yeah, listen, he's just like 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.360 taking shots at the west of the floor oh five crowd, Like, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.680 I mean, you got to come out for summer. Dude, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.480 this is far. I can't afford it. I can't afford it. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.680 That really, jealousy would be the reason I'm doing overnight series, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.280 JA said, I'll be overnight guy. Come on, man, I 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.640 can't afford that. It's out of control here, my god, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:39.480 you I'm not exactly pulling in call and countered money, 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.080 if you know what I mean. So I can you 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.400 can certainly swing it. As a radio veteran out here 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.680 in l A, I will just see this. Um. It 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.240 is a different life than I grew up in. Like 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.960 in the summer now we beach camp there at the 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.559 beach like everyday practice. Yeah, you know, when I was 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.199 growing up on the East Coast, we would make maybe 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.720 two or three trips to the beach all year. Uh 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.880 and now it's like, you know, we're they're probably another week. Yeah. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.599 Where did you grow up? By the way, we're in 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.880 your childhood. Where I grew up? You know, I was 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.000 born in New York, hence the next and Jets fandom, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.080 and then we grew up in Northern Virginia. My dad 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.960 worked at the government uh in BC, and um, you know, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.920 Northern Virginia was kind of exploding, so we were out 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.480 there just you know, firmly in the middle class. We 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.640 took one or two vacations a year. Uh. You know, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.960 we saw a lot of family members. You know, I 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.200 was the first one in my family born in America. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.640 My family family came from the Caribbean. So, um, I'm 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.439 definitely you know, David tried to call me. I don't 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.880 know if he was going unicorn, but I'm definitely unique 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.240 in the in the sports media industry. Uh. Now, a 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.800 lot of guys with the Caribbean background who have the 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:56.120 last named McIntyre but are definitely not Irish. Uh So, yeah, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:01.199 I have a kind of a unique in unique background. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.040 You you mentioned when you talk about gambling with you 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.640 being in those super contest analogies and that, and we 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.200 are heading towards the golden age here. I know from 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.600 talking to different people the advertising in sports media, which 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:18.240 has already started, but once this fully matures, I mean, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.080 you've been in the business a while now too, So 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.600 what are we looking at here? For those of us 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.559 that work in sports media with all the gambling money 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.839 that's gonna be the sports wagering. Once California and in 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.199 some of these other states that haven't yet legalized it 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.040 get into it, it is gonna be the gold rush, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.200 and it's gonna be huge, is it not? It's been saying. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.440 The one example somebody gave to me recently was, hey, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:46.199 so Adrian Woddarowski is paid by ESPN, right, what happens 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.679 if Van Duel says, boy, if we can get access 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.800 to everybody woad tweets out too and Instagrams two and 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.199 Facebook's two. Boy, that's a lot of customers who are 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.720 die hard sports fans hanging on his every word. What's 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.240 just top fan Duel or draft Kings from saying or 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.559 Fox bet, Hey, WHOA, We're gonna pay you ten million 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.400 dollars a year. We're gonna double your salary. You now 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.360 work for us. You can still break your news, do 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:17.199 your thing, but it's your Twitter feed sponsored by fox Beet, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.160 and now everybody who gets your feed and your news 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.840 it's all through fox Beet. Why why would that not happen? Ben? No, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.280 I agree with you. I think it's it's insane. It's 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.520 good for all of us. Like guys, well, we're not 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.599 I'm not at level. You're more of that. I'm not 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.960 listen event. There's only one would there's one schefter, you know. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.680 I don't know that Peter King is gonna bite on 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.200 this kind of thing, rapaport, you know. And then you 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.040 get down the list, and then you get to like 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.880 the fless celebrities like us, and they're like, oh, we 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.720 can throw this guy a couple of million bucks because 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.520 guess what. Ben Muller as a radio show that's everybody's known, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.400 and he's got a die hard following every night, and 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.120 his podcast numbers are good. It's coming, Ben. We just 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:04.040 have to be patient, right, Yeah, that's the hard part. Patience. No, patience, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.760 I don't but you know, it's a little bit different 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.160 of the beast. Hey, Jason, I know that obviously being 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.880 a die hard Jets fan, you haven't had any kind 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.920 of excitement since Venny Tista Verdi broke your heart in 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.960 the a f C Championship game against the Broncos. Back, Um, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:27.520 are you having any kind of of I guess reminiscence 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.320 about getting a guy that you guys have right now 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.600 and bolting with Sam Darl Do you feel like was 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.760 Zach Wilson coming and he is a savior? All right? 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.280 I gotta be honest, gas Gun, that's fake news, the 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.839 Vinny test of Verdie stuff. Okay, did you forget about 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.480 the Mark Sanchez era? Mark Sanchees went to two damn 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.439 a f C title games back to back. Those are 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.520 those were threats? Those weren't threats to me to win 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.320 the Super Bowl? That the Jets that season were actually good. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.320 The last Jets game that mattered Jets stealers an FC 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.160 title game. I think it was twenty four nothing at 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.240 one point, Sanchez Santonio Holmes. They storm back and the 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.000 Jets they just the defense needed one stop. And yes, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.880 I've replayed this game in my head a million times. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.840 They needed one stop and Big Ben keep chewing up 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.440 like four or five six yards. Levian I think it 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.800 was Levian Bell. No, no, I'm sorry it wasn't Lean 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.680 bell Um. But they could not get the stop, they 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600 could not get the ball back Steelers win. Um. I 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.160 thought Sam Donald could get them somewhere. Man, I'm not 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 gonna lie. I was out front driving the Sam Donald bus. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.440 And you know I was wrong about Adam Gaze, way 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:37.440 way wrong, embarrassingly wrong. Um. I'm hopeful that pretty boy 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.560 Zach can make this happen. I've called him zac Efron 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.160 multiple times, by the way, but doesn't even look like 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.000 zac Efron, like he looks like he's years old. I 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.920 firmly believe the Jets have something now. I like this 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.680 new coach, Robert Salah. Um. I just feel like it 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.640 feels like the perfect time with the Patriots sinking, I 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.720 think two was a big fraud. And um, I'm still 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.400 not a hundred thousand percent sold on Josh Allen. I 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.720 think the Jets come back. But yeah, and it's it's 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.800 been a wrong three decades now. You bring up the 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.680 situation with with Zach Wilson and and obviously being a 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.760 little wrong on on Adam Gaze, And I'm happy you 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.200 did do that because Ben and I have worked with 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.760 a colleague that you are are obviously close with now 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.720 and that's Robert Gara, and we need I need your 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.880 help because I feel like you have corrupted Bob in 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:42.360 this way where every morning Bob has these tweets that 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:47.280 echo straight fire. It's just like these takes. I'm thinking, like, man, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:52.120 Jason's rubbing off on Bob's so much. I don't know 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:53.960 if it's I don't know if it's me or it's 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.320 Rob Parker. Because Rob Parker's takes are so damn hot 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.880 these days. You know you're gonna drop your phone look 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:01.840 at at the damn thing you gotta where of admits 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.560 to hear these crazy, insane Rob Parker rants, which makes 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.880 no sense, but you know he's a buddy, so he's 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.680 afraid to have me co host with him. By the way, Gascon, 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.040 I know you know this, Ben, I don't know if 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.520 you know, Like when Bruce starts out, Parker gets to 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.520 pick who he wants is his is his co host, 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.520 And there was a time when he would pick me, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.600 Oh yeah, let's bring in McIntyre. He don't pick me 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:28.800 anymore because Lebron you name it um. But you know, listen, Rob, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.640 Rob's got some good take. Rob where that is that's 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.560 pretty interesting takes. He's a little in on on the 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.320 Lakers to the point where he can't see straight. You know, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.960 He's like, oh, yeah, it's the Laker, this guy. Um, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.760 so yeah, I'm working on him. Um, but I think 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.040 he's gonna be all right. Because you work in multiple 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.880 dimensions television, digital, and radio, what's your preferred medium? Well, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.760 that's a great question, and Ben, it goes back to 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.000 your West of the four oh five. You want to 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.160 live out here, you need three or four revenue streams, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:05.840 which is why we working like a dog. Fox Digital TV, radio, podcast. Um. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.000 You know, each of them is different and has their pluses. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.320 The written word doesn't carry the way that used to, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.200 but man, um, it is awesome when you write something 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.720 and they put the right headline on it and it 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:23.320 just mushrooms and everybody hates your guts. Obviously, podcasting there's 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.160 no rules, right, I mean, I'm I'm relatively new to this. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.040 When I was in college, podcasting did not exist down 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.560 Joe Rogan's making on a hundred million a year, so 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.600 you could do whatever you want on podcasting. TV obviously 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.280 is the glamorous one where you feel great. You feel 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.280 that rush when the you know, the red light comes on, 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.760 and um, it's super exciting. And radio, of course, UM, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.520 you really can have some good rants. I had an 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.920 epic Toronto Raptors rant where I just totally can I 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.680 say bad words here? And I just took a ship 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.520 on the Raptors. I was so pissed that Kauai got 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.760 lucky when Durant and everybody got hurt, and I just 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.960 unloaded on those guys, just a torrent of diarrhea all 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.960 over the franchise and like, I got like all these 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.199 death threats from these losers in Toronto, um, and I 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.919 had to block of them on my Instagram and all 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.359 this stuff. But um, radio, you could you get a 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.000 really good lather going. Man, it feels good to just 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.159 unload on someone. Yeah, radio is just a different, different 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.840 beast obviously, because you know bench show, it's like at 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.240 certain times of the of the hour, you really can 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.880 get after it the safe harbor space. But with that 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.880 being said, who's your favorite person to work with? We're 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.440 talking about Fox FS one and obviously on the digital side, 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.399 because you've worked obviously with some some big that's a 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.439 load of question. Yes, that's a loaded question. I mean 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.720 I think if it's if it was your least favorite 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.520 to work with, that's a lot easier of a question, um, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.760 but a favorite to work with, you know, Like listen, 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.040 Bruce had is a lot of fun. Coward obviously is fun. Uh. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:54.840 You know, on on the digital side, I've been doing 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.200 some fun stuff with Jeff Schwartz. Um. You know. On 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.640 on the radio side, yeah, I think I've hosted with 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.800 kind of intimidating guys. Like when you're sitting next to 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:09.120 Steven Jackson or Matt Barnes and you know, these are big, tall, millionaires, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.159 tattered up, not looking like guys that I went to 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.920 high school with or college. It can be intimidating, but man, 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.600 it's fun when you start vibing with them. Uh. Karen 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.920 Butler really good guy. A lot of NFL guys. Will 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.480 Blackman's awesome. And I just know I backed out of 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:29.440 the question by naming like fifteen people, who's your favorite listen? 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:30.760 I could throw it out there. I could go either 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.399 Bob Gara or Gavin Kinsel one of the two. Oh, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.199 those guys are good dudes. Man. I will say, have 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.520 you had Gavin on the pod lately? I have not. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.840 I love Gavin Gavin and Bob are always great. Gavin, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.600 I feel like it's easier to get worked up if 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.880 you veer into some Clay Travis territory. Gavin will get 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.240 fired up. Bob a little less easy to get worked up. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.320 Maybe if you took a shot at Kobe. But you 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.359 know that's not ever smart dude, Jason. It's weird because 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.240 the dynamic behind that network. I know you're not there 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.560 all the time, but it is either Laker or Dodger Town, 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.119 and god forbid one of those teams loses, Like these 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.640 guys won't show up to work or they'll just show 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.960 up with diapers and and and obviously handkerchiefs and and 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.240 it's embarrassing grown asked men right complaining about their team losing. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.440 I mean, Matt, maybe we should all get behind the Clippers. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.199 You know, I haven't seen here's a funny thing. I 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.399 haven't seen a damn word said about NBA ratings for 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.119 like three days. Lakers are out. I mean, I'm not 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.320 building my Knights around suns nuggets. Everybody on the East 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:34.919 Coast is happy. I mean, you get to go to 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:40.040 bed early. No disrespect to jazz clip paper clips, but 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.480 nobody's like I gotta stay up till twelve o'clock to 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.680 watch you know, kaw While Leonard and Paul George. Ben 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:47.560 am I getting the vibe here. You're a Clippers guy. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.040 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.240 Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.680 on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.280 I'm not I'm not just a Clipper guy. I'm a 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.119 Clipper live dog. And by the way, you was a 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.400 Jets fan, Jason, you should have empathy for the Clippers. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.280 The Clippers are essentially the Jets of the NBA. And 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.200 for you to throw dirt, I saw what you said 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.440 about the Mavericks against the Clip. You were all over 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.879 the Mavericks. You were you were riding with Luca don 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:21.160 Check my man. Come on willing to say right now, Ben, Luca. 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.760 If I'm starting a team anybody in the NBA, I'm 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:28.480 going Luca Donches first. Now are you thinking? Listen, Luca, 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.119 if did you watch those games later in the game, 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.800 it was Tim Hardaway Jr. And other guys that were 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.920 making big shots for the Mavericks where they were beating 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.160