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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: We are here at the Detroit Auto Show with four

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Speaker 2: time Formula One champion Max. For stapp and Max, the

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Speaker 2: second half of last season was about as exciting as

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Speaker 2: they get. You were at a one hundred and four

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Speaker 2: point deficit but ended up only missing out by two

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Speaker 2: points in the last race.

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Speaker 1: How did it feel to you take it raise race?

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Speaker 3: To be honest, you know, we had a bit of

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Speaker 3: a tough yeah for us alf A. You know, some

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Speaker 3: good moments and some bad moments and a bit of

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Speaker 3: a yeah, tough start, but second half is a lot

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Speaker 3: more enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also in the team side, like you know, you you

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Speaker 3: start to feel more comfortable confident when things are are

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Speaker 3: going well. Of course, even in the second half we

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Speaker 3: had a few tough races, but overall way more competitive,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's always nicer to have to end

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Speaker 3: the season like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a great way to end, even

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Speaker 2: if you know you didn't win the ultimate championship. But

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine working that hard with that set of

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Speaker 2: tools and then having to switch to a completely new

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Speaker 2: set of tools this year in like this most serious

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Speaker 2: rule change that Formula One has had, at least in

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Speaker 2: my memory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you know that even heading into

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Speaker 3: that season, right, so it's not like it comes as

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Speaker 3: a shock. The team is prepared for that, and it's

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Speaker 3: also a bit of a new challenge. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the cars the last three years, but at the

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Speaker 3: same time, sometimes, yeah, it doesn't doesn't hurt to have

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Speaker 3: a bit of a change, yet it can also really

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Speaker 3: upset of course the grit you don't know, so uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how that how that goes.

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Speaker 2: How do you think the rule changes are going to

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Speaker 2: benefit you as opposed to the rest of the group.

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Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even done that many laps in the simulator,

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Speaker 3: you know, So for me, I'll just see what happens

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Speaker 3: when I sit in the car.

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Speaker 1: I think what is always very important as the drivers.

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Speaker 3: That you can adapt quickly to the situation that you're in,

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Speaker 3: if if that is on a earn cardit you've known

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Speaker 3: just need to be able to, Yeah, dub quickly learn

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Speaker 3: quickly as well, because the cars will evolve I think

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Speaker 3: also very quickly. But yeah, I'm not too stressed about that,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean Red Bull is seen as the most at least

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Speaker 2: the most technologically advanced team in the world, and now

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Speaker 2: you have Ford as a partner. I don't think any

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Speaker 2: CEO automotive CEO cares about racing more than Jim Farley.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean to you working with Ford?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, it's a great opportunity as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm just excited, you know, to get started.

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Speaker 3: There's a massive heritage as well, you know in racing

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Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, I think everyone is just now

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Speaker 3: just very keen to get started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think like of the former winners that have

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Speaker 2: been powered by Ford, Jim Clark, Hill, Fit Appaldy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jackie Stewart, Like, it's such an illustrious list. It's almost

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Speaker 2: like you're gonna do DFV two point zero with this

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Speaker 2: new team.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. I mean, yeah, we hope, of course to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of success, but it's impossible to know.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that I do know is that everyone

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the development We've heard that

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Speaker 2: maybe you have a bit found a bit of an

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Speaker 2: edge with compression variable compression. I guess there's going to

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Speaker 2: be a meeting on January second about how this will

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Speaker 2: work for you and Mercedes. Do you feel like you

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Speaker 2: have an edge?

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Speaker 1: It's impossible to know. I mean everyone is just trying

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Speaker 1: everything they can. And from our.

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Speaker 3: Side, and especially for my side, I mean I have

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Speaker 3: to focus on the driving. You know, I'm not there

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Speaker 3: to be the engine technician, and we'll explain everything in

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Speaker 3: it's also something between the FIA and the car manufacturers,

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Speaker 3: to the engine manufacturers to to sort out. And I

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Speaker 3: drive the car and I trust that from our side,

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Speaker 3: you know, we always try to do our very best

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Speaker 3: to get the most performance out of the engine.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited to have more nimble a smaller, more

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Speaker 2: nimble car. Is that more exciting for you because it'll

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Speaker 2: be easier I guess than that instance to pass.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a bit too soon to be able

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Speaker 3: to say that that it will be easier to pass.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, so you know, everything is still unknown,

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Speaker 3: you know. So the cars I think look a bit nicer,

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Speaker 3: you know, when they're a bit smaller and not as wide.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, once we get on track, then it's a

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Speaker 3: what is all happening and going on.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about your career outside of F one. I

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Speaker 2: can hear the sims going over there, and I know

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Speaker 2: you're deep into that with Redline. So what are you

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Speaker 2: most interested in outside of racing on the track, which

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Speaker 2: I'm sure is your main focus almost all the time,

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Speaker 2: but in any spare time that you have.

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Speaker 3: You mean, outside of like sim racing and stuff. It's,

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Speaker 3: of course we want to win whatever we compete in, right,

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Speaker 3: I want to try and help young drivers, young people

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Speaker 3: that don't have the opportunities also in real life, you know,

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Speaker 3: to have an opportunity to actually then become a real

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Speaker 1: All starts of course in the simulator.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just very exciting to see these young

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Speaker 3: guys that you know, start at what sixteen maybe in

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Speaker 3: the team and see them grow as well over the

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Speaker 3: years with the potential to you know, maybe get a

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Speaker 3: real real life drive, which we have done last season

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Speaker 3: with one of the sim drivers and you know, he's

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Speaker 3: doing a really good job, and it's just, yeah, really

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Speaker 3: nice to see how that is all like progressing.

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Speaker 2: Do you think about that as a progression? I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you have, for example, a certain number of championships

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Speaker 2: in mind that you want to win before you can

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Speaker 2: walk away, or are you still going to be starting

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Speaker 2: races at you know, Alonzo's like forty four years old.

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Speaker 2: Can you see that as a future for yourself.

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Speaker 3: It's all honestly, like, it's just I don't really think

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Speaker 3: about it too much. I think it's more important to

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Speaker 3: just try and enjoy it, you know, it's on the

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Speaker 3: enjoyment is there, then it's also easier to rock up

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Speaker 3: and really demand everything from yourself.

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Speaker 1: And so far, I'm still you know, having that feeling.

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Speaker 2: You seem to be enjoying a little bit of GT racing,

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Speaker 2: maybe ready to do a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of endurance race.

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Speaker 2: I hear you get signed up for the twenty four

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Speaker 1: Well about that, there's still nothing confirmed yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean the plan would be nice, you know, if

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Speaker 3: that's possible, but it's also very you know, very hectic

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Speaker 3: first few months now in Formula one, so we.

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Speaker 1: Have to wait and see.

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Speaker 3: But it's definitely my goal, you know, I want to

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Speaker 3: do with twenty five races and I want to do

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Speaker 3: endurance and of course having started with GD three racing

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Speaker 3: as well with the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely the future plan.

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Speaker 2: Are you just aiming for an outright win at Lamar

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Speaker 2: or do you think about, for example, the Triple Crown.

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Speaker 2: Is that something that enters the picture.

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Speaker 3: Triple Crown not so much for me personally. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: would love to do Lamon and actually if you do it,

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Speaker 3: you want you want to try and win it.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of my co anchor, Danny Berger, she's

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Speaker 2: a huge F one fan and she wants to know

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Speaker 2: if you're still friends with Lando.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that does never change. So it's

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Speaker 1: just always.

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Speaker 2: Been the a little spicy at the end of the

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Speaker 2: last season.

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Speaker 1: Spicy, but it is also a bit of fun, you

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Speaker 1: know in it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just being being like that, and obviously

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Speaker 3: also the medium the media makes it always, uh, probably

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Speaker 3: a bit more spicy than it actually accidents