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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sadeve Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, I am

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Speaker 1: here in Saint Louis. It is Monday morning, waiting to

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Speaker 1: drive home. The Cubs did not have a good weekend

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Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, lost two of three. The offense showed

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Speaker 1: up for one of those three games. Otherwise it was

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Speaker 1: more of what we've seen for the last week week plus.

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Speaker 1: I'd say it has not been terrible offense before that,

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Speaker 1: but the last you know, outside of a couple outbursts

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Speaker 1: Wednesday that was six runs. Other than that, this offense

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Speaker 1: has just really been struggling lately. And it continues here

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Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. And and the Brewers aren't losing. They

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Speaker 1: have no desire to to even give the Cubs an

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Speaker 1: inch here.

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Speaker 2: Oh Soda, I'm so glad that you're making the time

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Speaker 2: to chat on this Monday morning. I know you want

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Speaker 2: to soak up every last second in Saint Louis. I

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Speaker 2: know it'd be hard to extract yourself from downtown Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I'm curious to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the weekend that was at Bush Stadium. It seemed very

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Speaker 2: sort of what this Cubs team has been like the

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Speaker 2: last couple of months. Of they avoid the sweep, they

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Speaker 2: have one game that kind of gets everyone off their backs,

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Speaker 2: and then but it's that kind of coin flip game

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Speaker 2: on Sunday night that could have gone either way, and

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Speaker 2: now they're steering at a six game deficit in the division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of remarkable how baseball is. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you like really get into the nitty gritty of it,

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Speaker 1: it can be a really frustrating sport. The Cubs out

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Speaker 1: doubled the number of hits than the Cardinals on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: They didn't walk anyone, They walked no Cardinals. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: had four base runners. They just happened to hit a

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Speaker 1: one of those hits was followed by a home run,

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Speaker 1: and then another one of those hits happened to happen

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Speaker 1: and that accounts for three runs. And it was more

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Speaker 1: than the Cubs got because they didn't come up with

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Speaker 1: a big hit. They didn't put much pressure on Sunny Gray,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't come up with a big hit either.

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Speaker 1: You can argue all you want about that stolen base

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Speaker 1: not stolen base in the ninth inning.

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Speaker 3: Look, I thought it was this.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was safe, but he was called out,

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Speaker 1: and the way replay works, he's not going to be there.

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Speaker 3: That's not an over, that's not a call that gets overturned.

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Speaker 1: It kind of looked like maybe his hand came off,

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Speaker 1: but then you could argue that he was pushed off

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Speaker 3: Whatever, it doesn't matter. He was called out.

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Speaker 1: He's out, and and that that probably led to the loss.

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Speaker 1: They put up a rally and couldn't get it done.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes I think because of what the Brewers

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Speaker 1: not some dreadful stretch of play. They're just not winning enough.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of going along like they've been a little

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Speaker 1: bit above five hundred for two months now. They've played

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Speaker 1: dreadful baseball like each of the previous two years, and

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Speaker 1: that's cost them a playoff spot. They're still safely in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's just really frustrating when the other team

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Speaker 1: is playing, you know, just an insane level of baseball.

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Speaker 1: You have to respect what the Brewers are doing. There's

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Speaker 1: no way you can argue that it's all luck and

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Speaker 1: that they're not a good team. They are a massively

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Speaker 1: things that are really easy to quantify right. They make

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Speaker 1: seem to get bounces. And lately especially they've been getting

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Speaker 1: every bounce and that helps a ton. You could argue

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Speaker 1: They're not hitting the ball hard enough, they're not doing

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Speaker 1: I do believe it'll turn. I think everybody in that

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Speaker 1: that offensive slump lasted for two months that led to

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Speaker 1: I think that's what like people are like, this is

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Speaker 1: why does this happen every year? Why does this offense

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Speaker 1: I saw that I've been I said this last podcast

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Speaker 1: Patrick when I did the solo mail bag. But they

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Speaker 1: were I want to say June and July fifteenth and

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Speaker 1: So this is it's just a different stretch. I think

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Speaker 1: it completely. The negative feelings right now completely have to

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Speaker 1: the fact that the team had a six and a

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Speaker 1: and look, they have to play better baseball. They can't

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Speaker 1: keep playing like this and then and then expected, you know,

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of credit has to go

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Cubs are six back in the division

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Speaker 2: Absurd. And I believe it was one of the embedded

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Speaker 2: tweets in one of your recent stories. I think Adam

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Speaker 2: Mcalvey used the Brewers devil magic phrasing on a tweet.

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Speaker 2: And it's just kind of a funny symmetry of just

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Speaker 2: Brewers have come back have kind of reincarnated version of

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that Cardinals used to do. That's

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Speaker 2: so frustrated, you know, Cubs fans and honestly the entire

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Speaker 2: Cubs organization, and you know, reading some Accouncil's quotes in

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Speaker 2: your stories, I just sort of laugh because I could

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Speaker 2: picture him, or I can hear him saying some of

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem as you know, like obviously he's not

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Speaker 1: the Brewers are actually winning some of these games. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of remarkable. But you know, he's very matter of

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Speaker 1: And I asked him, I was like, but do you

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: There's there's balls that hit the top of the fence

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Speaker 3: Just like errors, mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Everything is happening in critical, huge moments, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't explain all of this council, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: like angry about it. It was just very matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: They're playing well, they're winning a lot of games. We

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Speaker 3: That's the only time I'm concerned about them. And you

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Speaker 3: know what, like I get it. We've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: Why why aren't they screaming and yelling? Why aren't they

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Speaker 1: you know, things like that, Why aren't they showing passion

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Speaker 1: You get it like these guys are not, like very rarely.

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Speaker 3: Talking about stuff like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just don't you And I think that's probably

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Speaker 1: the right way to go about it, as boring as

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to go overboard with it, because if

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Speaker 1: Like every single thing is going their way.

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Speaker 3: Again, you you make your breaks. You you know, like.

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Speaker 1: They're putting the ball in play, they're hitting the ball hard,

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Speaker 1: they're finding gaps, they're they're they're forcing, they're putting pressure

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Speaker 3: So more power to them.

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Speaker 1: They're they're like, I'm not I'm not going to take

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Speaker 3: Patrick Matt Shaw hit.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was a solo homer on Saturday, and

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Speaker 2: And that Shaw has certainly played at a level that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I chatted with him before Sunday's game, and I

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Speaker 1: I think what stood out to me is like he started,

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see how it plays out in the

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Speaker 1: If you find something that he maybe maybe there are

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Speaker 1: That there was a nice reality check that I guess

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Speaker 1: I mean, Eastapparatus has made a career out of it.

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Speaker 1: He's played like two of the three ballparks or I

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Shaw's kind of figured that out, especially

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you could. You know he had that

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the fun parts of our job

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Speaker 2: And I loved reading your story because he it was

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439
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Speaker 2: what you ask, it's just when you ask them. And

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Speaker 2: then he was kind of ready. You know for that,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's crazy to think that, you know, a

442
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Speaker 2: kind of a nine hitter, sort of an afterthought is

443
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Speaker 2: carrying this offense, which is not at not a great

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Speaker 2: spot to be in when you're chasing the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk more about the offense and maybe PCA

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Speaker 3: Okay, Patrick, the offense is not playing well.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is runners in scoring position,

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Speaker 1: but lately especially it's.

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Speaker 3: More than that.

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Speaker 1: They're just not They're not hitting the ball as hard

473
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Speaker 1: as they were, They're not getting as many hits. They're

474
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Speaker 1: just like too many guys are slumping at once. And

475
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Speaker 1: this was the type of thing that you really thought

476
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Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. But you know, it's been a couple of

477
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Speaker 1: weeks now of guys not not rarely locked in. I

478
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Speaker 1: thought Michael Bush maybe got locked back in on Saturday,

479
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Speaker 1: and then I.

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Speaker 3: Think he had an over on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: PCA was telling me yesterday that was Sunday. He thought,

482
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Speaker 1: I think he hit like this line drive against was

483
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Speaker 1: it McGreevy. I think on Saturday he hit this line

484
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Speaker 1: drive up the middle and it hit McGreevy and then

485
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Speaker 1: ended up being an app And he's like, he's like,

486
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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought that was it. I thought that

487
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Speaker 1: was the bath that I'm like, yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling it again, and he's like DK actually brought

489
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Speaker 1: it up. DK even said he's like, you know that's

490
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: ten feet either side and that's that's a hard hit

491
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Speaker 1: line drive single. Or he's like maybe it finds a

492
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Speaker 1: gap and it's a double because it's hit so hard.

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Speaker 1: So you know, he's like that these sometimes it's a

494
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Speaker 1: game of inches like that, but it's also a mental grind.

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Speaker 1: Like we talked about with sew it seems like PCA

496
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Speaker 1: is like trying to ground himself. When I talked to him,

497
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Speaker 1: he said, you know, he had to talk with Dancy

498
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Speaker 1: about like these results on the field aren't what make

499
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Speaker 1: you who you are and things like that, And I

500
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Speaker 1: think some of that is, like we see the emotions

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Speaker 1: with PCA. He's out there and he's feeling it every

502
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Speaker 1: every after every bat that it doesn't go his way.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that, you know, well he made

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Speaker 1: destroy a chair here and there. He's not he's not,

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Speaker 1: Oh you you were there, Patrick, Yeah, there was a

506
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Speaker 1: destroyed chair after in a bat in the final at

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Speaker 1: bat that he struck out I think against Baltimore he

508
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Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't thrilled, and there was a broken chair

509
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Speaker 1: in it by his clubhouse. So he'll feel I mean that,

510
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: that's right after a tough at bat, right after right

511
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Speaker 1: after a tough loss, and he'll he'll feel those emotions.

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Speaker 1: But talking to him before the game, you could tell

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Speaker 1: that you know he's he's a freer person. You you

514
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: want that, you don't want those those that anger lingering.

515
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Speaker 1: But it eventually has got to turn into results, like

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Speaker 1: it has with Matt Shaw. It is not yet with

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Speaker 1: pc A. He's in a he's in a rough slump.

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Speaker 1: One thing I not is Patrick and I'm gonna write

519
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Speaker 1: about this for Tuesday. He's not chasing. Everyone wants to say,

520
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: like this guy chases too much and the league has

521
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Speaker 1: figured him out. He's chasing less than he was during

522
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Speaker 1: his hot streak, a lot less. Wow, he's organized the

523
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Speaker 1: strike zone. He's missing pitches right down the middle. There

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Speaker 1: was a three to zero count on Sunday and center

525
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Speaker 1: cut fastball and he missed it.

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Speaker 3: He grounded out.

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Speaker 1: I want to say that pitch that I was talking

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Speaker 1: that that game against Baltimore, that was a hit able

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Speaker 1: pitch that he struck out on to end the game

530
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Speaker 1: in a one run game. He's just not like this happens.

531
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Speaker 1: You got to hope that I think this is I

532
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: said this on the radio the other day.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's just this type of player like we haven't seen,

535
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Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of history with him. He's

536
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Speaker 1: going to go through these stretches where he's just a

537
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Speaker 1: little bit off and he needs to get back locked

538
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Speaker 1: in and maybe we'll see another tourred stretch. And I

539
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Speaker 1: keep coming back to this quote that Jed said there

540
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: right when Jed talked no, no, no, it was it

541
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: was after the Soroka injury, but he basically said, like

542
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: these slumps like you don't know when they start, you

543
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know when they end. And I think that's the

544
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: really frustrating part about this stuff is like you can

545
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Speaker 1: think you see a sign like Saturday for Michael Bush,

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Speaker 1: and there were no signs that he'd have a game

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Speaker 1: like Saturday, and then he had another over the next day.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, was that the start of something or

549
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Speaker 1: was it not. It's very it's very hard to tell

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Speaker 1: sometimes when these things are going to start when they end.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's the most difficult part for us

552
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: to like deal with, especially for the fans, because when

553
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: you're in it, it feels like this is never ending.

554
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Speaker 2: So just to clarify, it was the chair at his

555
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Speaker 2: locker at Wrigley Field.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think he just I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say destroyed is probably hyperbole.

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Speaker 3: It was broken.

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Speaker 1: It was broken, and he had a new chair at

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Speaker 1: his locker the next day. He had like the wheels

562
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: had been broken, and like it was not it was

563
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: not a functional chair anymore. I'm sure he we weren't

564
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Speaker 1: there to see what he did, but he wasn't thrilled

565
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Speaker 1: with the chair it was.

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Speaker 2: It's just interesting because like that's a pretty good distance

567
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Speaker 2: from the Wrigley dugout to the locker room and where

568
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Speaker 2: his chair would be. And I feel like normally it's

569
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Speaker 2: bat rack, maybe an occasional iPad or like a TV

570
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Speaker 2: kind of near the dugout area, just in general for

571
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Speaker 2: most players expressing their frustrations, that would be a good

572
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Speaker 2: walk for Pete to kind of keep carrying that. But

573
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Speaker 2: you know, you make a good point of like this

574
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: was one of the worst hitters in baseball last summer,

575
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Speaker 2: Like just in the majors, like least productive guys going,

576
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Speaker 2: and then he wasn't that good in April either, until

577
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Speaker 2: he turned it on and became this amazing all around

578
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Speaker 2: All Star player. And you know, listen to the broadcast

579
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: last night, it's like, oh, that's thirty stolen bases for

580
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: pe Crow Armstrong, and it's like, we're at that one

581
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: point of this season. I know, our buddy John Greenberg

582
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: likes making fun of the sort of arbitrary stats of

583
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Speaker 2: like oh, first player or you know, fourth youngest player

584
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Speaker 2: since you know, in franchise history to reach these stats.

585
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Speaker 2: Before the All Star breaking, it's been kind of quiet

586
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Speaker 2: on that front, and it hasn't felt like, oh, like

587
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: every game, we may have to write a peak Crow

588
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: Armstrong story, like he was on that sort of hobby

589
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: run in the twenty sixteen playoffs for a while, and

590
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Speaker 2: that's not realistic to sustain for one hundred and sixty

591
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: two games. But clearly, you know, Pete and Kyle Tucker

592
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: are the guys who are going to have to like

593
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: turn it back on here if the Cubs are going

594
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: to have a nice playoff run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tucker, it's interesting. I don't know, you can point

596
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: to the finger if you want to, and wonder if

597
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: that's still bothering him. He didn't dismiss it. Counsel seems

598
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: to be adamantly against that that's the issue. Jed didn't

599
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: dismiss it. I think I think the fact that he

600
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Speaker 1: got hurt in June and had such a big June

601
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Speaker 1: gives me pause that it's.

602
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Speaker 3: The main issue.

603
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if maybe something changed with his swing

604
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: so he could kind of get.

605
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Speaker 3: Through the issue.

606
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Speaker 1: My guess is it's probably healed now and they're working

607
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Speaker 1: on mechanical things. Talking to DK hitting coach Justin Kelly,

608
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Speaker 1: he did say, like I pointed out, I was like, look,

609
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Speaker 1: he's hitting the ball hard again, Like there's some really

610
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: hard hit balls and they're just going for singles.

611
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: What is that?

612
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Like, what are you seeing? And he said his bad

613
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: path is a little flatter than it normally is when

614
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: he's at his best, so that you know, maybe there

615
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: was some tweak there and he needs to just get

616
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: he he doesn't have like this huge uppercut swing, but

617
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just slightly off. It sounds like

618
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Speaker 1: it I wouldn't worry about. I still say I'm not

619
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Speaker 1: worried about Kyle Tucker, because I think that he's about

620
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: to like he's going to go on a hot stretch.

621
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Speaker 1: I again, I don't know when it starts, but I

622
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Speaker 1: just don't believe he's gonna have three bad months or

623
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Speaker 1: average months in a row.

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Speaker 3: I'd be a little surprised by that.

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Speaker 1: If he does, I guess maybe that's not the best

626
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: platform year then and then and then suddenly the Cubs

627
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: are getting him for a lot cheaper in the season

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Speaker 1: of his.

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Speaker 2: Six months as a Cub. Three of that. Yeah, that

630
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: it's too early to put it in those terms, but yeah,

631
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: that would be quite the quite the feat if three

632
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: average to below average months of his six as a

633
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: Cub would Yeah, it could be occurrence, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: That would absolutely be a occurrence.

635
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I think the bottom line is there's

636
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: multiple guys on this offense that need to get going.

637
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: Like I just said, like a Bush had that game,

638
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Say I had that game whatever day that was Wednesday

639
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: and at Wrigley and he hasn't like and you thought like, oh,

640
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hot weekend in Saint Louis and

641
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. So I don't know when it turns.

642
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. I do believe it

643
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: does turn. I also kind of believe that it may

644
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: be too late to catch the Brewers. I think this

645
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: is the type of stretch where that wins you a division.

646
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: I said this in the Mailbag episode, but like everyone's saying, like, oh,

647
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: they look at their record in the past two months,

648
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: it's barely about five hundred.

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00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

650
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Speaker 1: I said this at the time when they were read hot,

651
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Speaker 1: like this is what you need to get into the playoffs.

652
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Speaker 3: You can.

653
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Speaker 1: It's the benefit of having two awesome months is you

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Speaker 1: can have a couple average months. Then what you don't

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Speaker 1: want is what happened last May and June. You can't

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Speaker 1: have awful months and then you have to play insane

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Speaker 1: for four months, so you have to You need these

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Speaker 1: types of I mean, you need the April and May

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Speaker 1: months to balance out what the inevitable rough patches that

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Speaker 1: every team goes through except the Brewers, apparently, although the

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Speaker 1: Brewers did go through it, they were twenty five and

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to start the season. They started on fourth,

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Speaker 1: they were twenty five and twenty eight, and they haven't

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Speaker 1: looked back since that twenty five and twenty eight. I

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Speaker 1: think after twenty five and twenty eight they won eight

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Speaker 1: games in a row. That's something they've done three times.

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Speaker 1: When at least eight games in a row, just you know,

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Speaker 1: just it goes to show like it's been a really

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Speaker 1: great run. But like I said, every team like this

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Speaker 1: is normal. You get the hot stretch is how you

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Speaker 1: get into base into the playoffs. You would think it

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Speaker 1: would be enough to win the division, but another team

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Speaker 1: has had an even hotter stretch.

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Speaker 3: So props to them for being as good as they can.

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, you know, I agree with

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Speaker 1: all the players in that clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: They got to take care of their own business and

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Speaker 3: they got to get going. Now.

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Speaker 1: They can't really think too much about the Brewers. Let's

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Speaker 1: just focus on the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Get in. If you somehow do catch the Brewers, more

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Speaker 3: power to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, we'll be back with more episodes this week.

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Speaker 1: You are back from vacation. I will be in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening everyone. This is Northside Territory.

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Speaker 3: Thanks everyone, Take.

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Speaker 5: Do they

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Speaker 1: D