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Speaker 2: This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.
Speaker 2: I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
Speaker 2: This episode, we're covering the week of April seventeen to
Speaker 2: April twenty three. Jd Vance has killed the Pope. A
Speaker 2: second pete hegseath on authorized signal chat has hit the
Speaker 2: Department of Defense. The White House announces that the Education
Speaker 2: Department will start collecting on defaulted student loans. Beanie clad
Speaker 2: Tim Poole joins the White House press pool, and hippie
Speaker 2: Facebook moms rejoice with artificial food dies being banned across America.
Speaker 2: How are we doing, everybody?
Speaker 3: So, after hearing that, fine, I guess I outlived the Pope.
Speaker 2: I outlive the Pope.
Speaker 3: You have to live several more decades to like outlive
Speaker 3: the pope. Officially, I think he was eighty eight, So
Speaker 3: he did it and did it.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness he did not die on Hitler's birthday, because
Speaker 2: that would have been a whole other, whole other, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm still one day off. I'm thinking back to my
Speaker 3: Catechism classes and trying to remember, like Pope dead on Easter,
Speaker 3: good sign are bad?
Speaker 4: That's definitely a sign and get some kind.
Speaker 3: Of shine do we? How do we take that?
Speaker 5: Shout out to the Pistons for holding off winning a
Speaker 5: playoff game just long enough for the Pope to die,
Speaker 5: such that Francistory's entire tournament office never saw a Pistons
Speaker 5: playoff win. Congratulations to the Pistons, Gradulations to the City
Speaker 5: of Detroit. Congratulations were withholding that from the Pope?
Speaker 3: Didn't that mean love to see it? Did Pope Francis
Speaker 3: have a strong opinion on the Pistons that he expressed
Speaker 3: at some point because I may have missed that.
Speaker 4: No, he knew they were in a Macomore song, so
Speaker 4: therefore he hated them.
Speaker 3: He was a huge mcle fan. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't know this, but the entire time the Pope
Speaker 3: is lying in state, they're just going to be looping
Speaker 3: thrift shop. So yeah, as Pope Francis wanted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was his dying wish.
Speaker 2: Do you know who else probably used to listen to
Speaker 2: mackilmore not anymore because he got too woke. But Pete
Speaker 2: hegg Seth seems like us. He's like a twenty twelve
Speaker 2: Macklemore guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah it might have been. Might have been.
Speaker 2: He was sharing plans for you many air strikes with
Speaker 2: his wife, his brother and a personal lawyer in another signal.
Speaker 3: Chat, I do the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, you've yet to act on your plans.
Speaker 3: It's a difference. They are not interested.
Speaker 2: Looping at the lawyers the real like God to your
Speaker 2: move there.
Speaker 6: That's so funny because I mean it says so much
Speaker 6: both about like what's going on in Pete heg Seth's brain,
Speaker 6: but of the quality of lawyer, because any lawyer worth
Speaker 6: assault would be like please your movie chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to get me out of this chat.
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? Are you? Are you texting
Speaker 3: me missile package information?
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 5: Though, we've gotten great every like this guy from Julianti,
Speaker 5: from all of the lawyers, these like random cartoon dipshits.
Speaker 5: The right keeps finding that like they will just hand
Speaker 5: you a law degree. Like if you hand the state
Speaker 5: enough money, they will just hand you a law degree.
Speaker 5: And you can just like bullshit your way to the
Speaker 5: bar and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Like they get that. Shout out to anyone you can
Speaker 3: tell a really good lawyer in a room where legal
Speaker 3: things are being discussed. And I've had this happen several
Speaker 3: times because they just leave, they bounce, they get the
Speaker 3: fuck out of the room. And that's a smart lawyer.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if you saw it, but the
Speaker 4: State of California was using AI to say it's bar
Speaker 4: exam questions.
Speaker 3: So ohird. You don't even have to be so that
Speaker 3: the AI would be able to tell you, don't text
Speaker 3: you your wife, lawyer and sun classified information about missile strikes.
Speaker 3: But whatever.
Speaker 2: Now, hopefully if they start using AI more to get
Speaker 2: through school, they won't have they won't have as many
Speaker 2: student loans to be collected on. Yeah, of practice that
Speaker 2: has been paused since March of twenty twenty, set to
Speaker 2: be resumed on May fifth. And then, Man, the Timpoole
Speaker 2: thing was really wild. Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt gave a
Speaker 2: give a glowing introduction to Tim Poole's addition to the
Speaker 2: press room, and Tim's first question to the administration was
Speaker 2: was asking why news media just lies so much about Trump.
Speaker 2: Fantastic journalism here from comrade Tim, really probing question. Let's
Speaker 2: pivot towards RFK and the concerning registry that has been discussed,
Speaker 2: which is a word you never like to hear. Whenever
Speaker 2: someone brings up the concept of a registry, it's usually.
Speaker 3: Bad, always bad. So I'm going to talk in general
Speaker 3: about what RFK, the things that he has said, not
Speaker 3: just about autistic Americans, but about people who are receiving
Speaker 3: psychiatric medication, people who are addicted to opiates, people who
Speaker 3: are utilizing like stimulants, by which I mean ADHD medicine,
Speaker 3: which if you have ADHD, that's not exactly the way
Speaker 3: it functions, but that's the way he frames it. Because
Speaker 3: these are all tied together, right. I have some frustrations
Speaker 3: with kind of how it's been taken on social media
Speaker 3: that I think are not causing people to worry when
Speaker 3: they don't need to worry, but look at maybe sort
Speaker 3: of the wrong area to see the immediate threat coming from.
Speaker 3: So first I'm going to start with like what has
Speaker 3: been said, and before we get to the registry, we
Speaker 3: have to go back to what he was talking about
Speaker 3: on the campaign trail because prior and this is prior
Speaker 3: to him endorsing Donald Trump. When our FK Junior was
Speaker 3: like an individual like running for president on his own
Speaker 3: under his independent campaign, he started talking about wellness farms, right,
Speaker 3: and these were specifically in the language that he use,
Speaker 3: places that people who were addicted to psychiatric medication antidepressants
Speaker 3: he named specifically antidepressants and stimulants as well as people
Speaker 3: with opiate addictions, right, and he has since talked about
Speaker 3: other drug addictions as well. Could go to spend three
Speaker 3: or four years working on a farm. He always frames
Speaker 3: it as also like learning skills. So it's this mix
Speaker 3: of I want people to be able to work in
Speaker 3: this in you know, lovely bucolic, you know agrarian setting
Speaker 3: where they'll gain working skills. And then there's also pepperedin
Speaker 3: these very frightening phrases like they need to be reparented
Speaker 3: right now. In addition to this, he's not just that
Speaker 3: this is all focused on Americans who are taking medications
Speaker 3: that he thinks are over over prescribed or purely unnecessary. Right,
Speaker 3: that's always the way, Like psychiatric medication. He almost has
Speaker 3: a scientologist attitude towards it that like this is all
Speaker 3: essentially unnecessary and obviously you know, all of this stuff
Speaker 3: comes out of their elements of this that were true
Speaker 3: at one point. For example, back in the nineties, like
Speaker 3: Riddlin was wildly over prescribed to kids. But the way
Speaker 3: in which he's translated this now is that basically everyone
Speaker 3: on a stimulant, everyone on an antidepressant is on it unnecessarily.
Speaker 3: And in a podcast in twenty twenty four, he went
Speaker 3: further by kind of tying a lot of this to race,
Speaker 3: specifically stating quote, every black kid is now just standard
Speaker 3: put on adderall on SSRIs benzos, which are known to
Speaker 3: induce violence, and those kids are going to have a
Speaker 3: chance to go somewhere and get reparented. So that's all
Speaker 3: deeply concerning.
Speaker 2: It's like kidnapping children. And forcibly, like demedicating.
Speaker 3: I will say, that's not how he has framed it.
Speaker 3: So one of the things is people I've heard it
Speaker 3: phrases like rfks admitted he wants to imprison millions of
Speaker 3: Americans in camps, and like, that's not what he said.
Speaker 3: The direct quotes about this are not framed as a
Speaker 3: mandatory thing. It's framed as a replacement for other treatments
Speaker 3: that people can choose to go into and choose to leave.
Speaker 3: That's what he's said, right, Okay, Now, perfectly reasonable when
Speaker 3: a guy in an administration like this is talking about
Speaker 3: putting up camps to be like, well, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I believe him, but it's not accurate that he
Speaker 3: said he wants to arrest millions of people and force
Speaker 3: them onto camps. He just has not said that, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think it behooves us to be honest about
Speaker 3: what he said. I think it also who's to talk about,
Speaker 3: like where this idea comes from, right, and what he's
Speaker 3: looking back to. And again, a lot of the issue
Speaker 3: here is not necessarily what RFK might do, but the
Speaker 3: fact that he might not be there forever, and if
Speaker 3: he starts establishing this this kind of kind of program
Speaker 3: that starts in an attempt to be something that is more,
Speaker 3: you can choose to be on these camps or not.
Speaker 3: There's certainly willingness within the Republican Party to force people
Speaker 3: into different kinds of quote unquote treatment like this. And
Speaker 3: one thing I think that particularly is the way in
Speaker 3: which the right has liked to shift blame for gun
Speaker 3: violence and mass shootings off of the availability of firearms
Speaker 3: and onto people who are on psychiatric medication right, And
Speaker 3: this is an area in which I could see someone
Speaker 3: taking over from RFK or pushing past the things he
Speaker 3: specifically has stated he wants to do, because I think
Speaker 3: he does come out of a more quack medicine goal here,
Speaker 3: putting people forcibly in camps and colonies like this, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, like the idea of like reparenting, I guess is
Speaker 2: deeply problem Yes, incredibly scary phrase, but it is worth
Speaker 2: noting as there's a very good teen Vogue article on
Speaker 2: the matter called RFK wants to send people to wellness farms.
Speaker 3: The US already tried that that talks about the actual
Speaker 3: background that he is hearkening back to, because he is
Speaker 3: not His vision of wellness farms is not like the
Speaker 3: Nazi concentration camp. Which doesn't mean that it's not possible
Speaker 3: that things could wind up in a much darker direction.
Speaker 3: But this gives you an idea of the history that
Speaker 3: he is specifically calling back to. Quote beginning of the
Speaker 3: eighteen nineties and continuing through the first decades of the
Speaker 3: twentieth century, epileptic and feeble minded colonies sprung up around
Speaker 3: the US. The initial purpose of these colonies was to
Speaker 3: remove patients from overcrowded, badly run asylums and poorhouses in
Speaker 3: favor of farm life, where they would have access to
Speaker 3: the outdoors. Under the colony model, patients generally lived in
Speaker 3: cottages designed to be more homelike than institutional Patients were
Speaker 3: also given jobs, and many were expected to work on
Speaker 3: colony farms, where they grew their own food. Doctor William Sprattling,
Speaker 3: the medical suit superintendent of the Craig Colony for Epileptics
Speaker 3: in New York, declared that the farm model meant nature,
Speaker 3: the great restorer, will have an opportunity to do her best.
Speaker 3: It didn't work. Supporters of the colony model argued that
Speaker 3: with time, clean air, sunshine, and a restricted diet, physical
Speaker 3: labor could heal patients, but that didn't happen. Data from
Speaker 3: the Craig Colony, one of the America's first epileptic colonies,
Speaker 3: illustrates this point. During the nineteen forties, thanks to funding
Speaker 3: and staff limitations because of World War II, conditions in
Speaker 3: North America's institutions were particularly grim. The institutions nineteen forty
Speaker 3: three to nineteen forty four annual report to the State
Speaker 3: Commission of Mental hygiene shows that less than one percent
Speaker 3: of patients were discharged is cured that year. During that
Speaker 3: same period, over two hundred patients attempted to leave the
Speaker 3: colony without permission, and five percent of the total patient
Speaker 3: population died. And so I mean, that's reason enough to
Speaker 3: be deeply worried, right, the fact that without saying like
Speaker 3: RFK wants to do what the Nazis did, RFK wants
Speaker 3: to do what the America already did, and it killed
Speaker 3: a huge number of the people who were interned in
Speaker 3: those camps. And I guess the thing I keep bringing
Speaker 3: up is that when I think about what the threat
Speaker 3: model is more than fucking Auschwitz for people who want
Speaker 3: our NSSRIS, it's a Judge Rotenberg Center on every corner.
Speaker 3: It's camps like these where costs are going to be
Speaker 3: cut and there's not going to be good access for
Speaker 3: any kind of independent monitors to make sure health and
Speaker 3: safety are being followed. It's not that people are going
Speaker 3: to be shoveled into ovens. It's that as a result
Speaker 3: of this system being incompetently applied to the most vulnerable.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking about my worry at the moment,
Speaker 3: being that everyone on an SSR will be forced in
Speaker 3: it's going to be poor kids. And RFK has already
Speaker 3: talked about that, right, Like, that's why he's focusing on
Speaker 3: the black kids, right, that's who they're going for. We've
Speaker 3: had some people post up in the subreddit being like,
Speaker 3: I know I'm going to go to a camp because
Speaker 3: I have autism, or I know I've alway to go
Speaker 3: to a camp because i have ADHD. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying don't be scared of fascism. I'm saying
Speaker 3: this is where to fight right now. It's not RFK
Speaker 3: wants to send every adult on an SSRI into a
Speaker 3: death camp. It's that they're going to try and be
Speaker 3: putting these kids instead of you know, the different juvenile
Speaker 3: programs that exist, instead of any kind of functional medical program,
Speaker 3: They're going to force them into facilities like this. And
Speaker 3: it's going to become easier for facilities like the Judge
Speaker 3: Rotenberg Center, which horribly abuses and tortures autistic kids, to
Speaker 3: spread and to get state and federal funding. Like and
Speaker 3: that's the threat, right, It's an extension of what we're
Speaker 3: doing and what we've done. It's not a carbon copy
Speaker 3: of what the Nazis are doing or did speaking of
Speaker 3: the Nazis, and we're back. So a couple of things
Speaker 3: happen in quick succession that is responsible in part for
Speaker 3: like why people are so freaked out, and rightfully so.
Speaker 3: One of them is that RFK gave a speech on
Speaker 3: the back of new data that showed yet another rise
Speaker 3: in the rate of autism diagnoses, and as I said
Speaker 3: on a previous episode, it's because we're looking for it more.
Speaker 3: But he made a statement about people with profound autism
Speaker 3: not being able to pay taxes or write poems, you know,
Speaker 3: or that sort of thing. And while he was he
Speaker 3: was specifically talking about people with quote unquote profound autism,
Speaker 3: it's reasonable for people to assume, like, yeah, but that's
Speaker 3: just kind of what he sees is basically everyone, right,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that that's an unfair assumption. And
Speaker 3: then coming right up on the heels of that, there
Speaker 3: was an announcement from the NIH, the National Institutes of
Speaker 3: Health about RFK Junior's new effort to quote unquote study autism.
Speaker 3: And basically, what they're going to be doing is collecting
Speaker 3: comprehensive patient data with broad coverage of the US population
Speaker 3: and kind of organizing it within the NIH. This is
Speaker 3: the first time this has been done. But they are
Speaker 3: going to be grabbing basically everything they can get their
Speaker 3: hands on. And we're talking about a mix of medication
Speaker 3: records from pharmacies, lab testing records, genomic data from people
Speaker 3: who like go to the Department of the basically data
Speaker 3: taken by the VA, data taken by the Indian Health Service,
Speaker 3: as well as data from private insurers. And they're also
Speaker 3: going to be buying data from smartwatchs stuff like fitbits. Right,
Speaker 3: who does sell their data to anybody with like twenty
Speaker 3: dollars hanging out the back of their pocket. And as
Speaker 3: a heads up, if you are looking for a fitness tracker,
Speaker 3: you should look more into this. There are a few
Speaker 3: that have reasonably good data protection histories. Garman is one
Speaker 3: of them. This does not mean it's perfect. All of
Speaker 3: them will hand over your data if given a court
Speaker 3: order to do so. None of them are going to
Speaker 3: break the law to hold on to your data. But
Speaker 3: Garman doesn't just like sell willy nilly to anybody who
Speaker 3: wants to like advertise based on it. Right that said,
Speaker 3: most of them do the last thing I'd write was
Speaker 3: something like twelve out of fifteen different free fitness tracks
Speaker 3: apps they checked sold data pretty widely, So yeah, about
Speaker 3: eighty percent. Yeah, it's the vast majority. Right, So, the
Speaker 3: NIH is basically looking at taking the data that exists.
Speaker 3: They're not talking about really gathering new data, but they
Speaker 3: they are talking about collecting everything that exists and putting
Speaker 3: it under one roof for the first time. And this
Speaker 3: is for a couple of purposes. Right. They want to
Speaker 3: be able to track the spread of different illnesses and
Speaker 3: different health problems within the population. These are their claims,
Speaker 3: but also they want to create a disease registry specifically
Speaker 3: to track Americans with autism. Right, And this is because
Speaker 3: Kennedy describes autism as a preventable disease, which is not accurate.
Speaker 3: And the fact that this database and these other databases
Speaker 3: are being made should be very worrisome. Right, It's both
Speaker 3: important to talk about the fact that he is specifically
Speaker 3: signaling out autism while also stating like, that's not the
Speaker 3: only thing they're looking into. Right. They want data on
Speaker 3: people who are on SSRIs, who are on ADHD medication.
Speaker 3: They probably want data on drug use. Right. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of things they are looking to be gathering,
Speaker 3: and none of it is shit that they should have
Speaker 3: access for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can certainly see them expanding this out to
Speaker 2: like hormone replacement therapy, transior healthcare, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: And also like the apps attract like menstrual cycles right, yes, people,
Speaker 4: excess and reproductive healthcare.
Speaker 3: And again the immediate plan, I'm sorry, I simply don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think that RFK Junior's master plan is the
Speaker 3: mass arrest of everybody who with autism in the United
Speaker 3: States and forcing them into a camp. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's what he wants, in part because his number one,
Speaker 3: his base of support is a lot of the parents
Speaker 3: of these kids. And I'm not saying those parents don't
Speaker 3: want to do things that they are already doing things
Speaker 3: to their kids that are harmful, But those parents want
Speaker 3: control over what they see as their kids health care.
Speaker 3: They want the freedom to experiment with medications on their
Speaker 3: kids to quote unquote fix them. And this data is
Speaker 3: going to be used both to provide basically to be
Speaker 3: massaged to provide evidence that different treatments that don't do
Speaker 3: shit do in fact work. And I think I have
Speaker 3: suspicions of financial interests there. I keep getting questioned like, well,
Speaker 3: what do you think is going to happen when the
Speaker 3: autism cures don't work, Well, then they're going to put
Speaker 3: people in camps. No, the autism cures already don't work.
Speaker 3: This is an industry. They make money off of this.
Speaker 3: They make money off of drugging and medically torturing these children.
Speaker 3: And as far that is, the threat is that it
Speaker 3: is going to get easier to do at a larger scale,
Speaker 3: and it is going to be harder to fight, even
Speaker 3: illegal to provide good information on what does and does
Speaker 3: not work. And that is what's happening right now as
Speaker 3: opposed to something we might be worried about, you know,
Speaker 3: years down the line. And yes, we should fight anytime
Speaker 3: the government is trying to put populations of people into
Speaker 3: a motherfucking database like this, we should fight all of
Speaker 3: this tooth and nail. I just think this is what
Speaker 3: I see as the danger. You know, Yeah, the risk
Speaker 3: is this to centralized stuff. It's a centralized acceleration for
Speaker 3: things that have already been happening, less so than just
Speaker 3: like large skilled direct sator intervention.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot about like in the context
Speaker 4: of this like quote unquote wilderness therapy programs. Right, yes,
Speaker 4: Roberts covered these, but which have been abusing children for years.
Speaker 3: And that is what I see when we talk about
Speaker 3: these these farms. Again, my worry is not RFK wants
Speaker 3: to forcibly put everybody into fucking Auschwitz Part two. It's
Speaker 3: RFK wants a hundred times as many teen treatment facilities
Speaker 3: where kids who disobey are get in trouble with the
Speaker 3: large caught it fucking protests, can be forced to labor,
Speaker 3: and an amount of them will die and all of
Speaker 3: them will suffer permanent mental and physical damage as a
Speaker 3: result of being put in these places.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the behavioral improvement centers that are you could
Speaker 2: even be part of, you know, like like community service.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's extensions of what we do. It's extremely American,
Speaker 3: you know. I just that's that's where my head is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great. So talking of where I guess
Speaker 4: where my head is is immigration, Right, That's what I
Speaker 4: tend to update us on. So I guess I've seen
Speaker 4: it characterize as like legal ping pong between the courts
Speaker 4: and the DOJ. It would be like if one side
Speaker 4: was playing ping pong with a regular tennis racket, and
Speaker 4: everyone was just pretending that they weren't right, Like the
Speaker 4: doj is just continuing to kind of flout these court orders.
Speaker 4: If we start from the top and go down, the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court temporarily banned the government from renditioning Venezuelan men
Speaker 4: in the district of North Texas to El Salvador. I
Speaker 4: think people maybe sometimes this got a little misinterpreted on
Speaker 4: social media, like you have to look at who the
Speaker 4: class was, and the class was a group of Venezuelan
Speaker 4: men who were in immigration detention in North Texas who
Speaker 4: were going to be sent to Well Saladore, and that
Speaker 4: was who got the relief. The case at the time
Speaker 4: was pending before the US Court of Appeals for the
Speaker 4: Fifth Circuit, and the Supreme Court said that once that
Speaker 4: court active, the government could appeal to the Supreme Court. However,
Speaker 4: they added, the government should not, and I'm quoting here,
Speaker 4: remove any member of the putative class of detainees from
Speaker 4: the United States until further order of this Court.
Speaker 2: I e.
Speaker 4: The Supreme Court to update on the case, which we've
Speaker 4: covered a lot here. The Abrego Garcia case. Judge Genies
Speaker 4: ordered expedited discover. Discovery is when both parties in a lawsuit,
Speaker 4: like a mass information right, they're able to find out information.
Speaker 4: And in this case, the government more or less ignored this,
Speaker 4: and it did so by sticking to its line that
Speaker 4: they can't bring him home to the United States, saying
Speaker 4: that the requests were and I'm quoting again here, based
Speaker 4: on the false premise that the United States can or
Speaker 4: has been ordered to facilitate Abrego Garcia's released from custody
Speaker 4: in El Salvulo. Their claiming they were ordered to return him,
Speaker 4: and somehow in their minds, returning him does not include
Speaker 4: ensuring his release, like they're saying that they're only obliged
Speaker 4: to transport him should he be released anyway.
Speaker 3: Genie's in a.
Speaker 4: Court order, called this quote a wilful and bad faith
Speaker 4: refusal to comply with the discovery obligations. Geni's also called
Speaker 4: the government's assertions of executive privilege quote equally specious. The
Speaker 4: City of Hyattsville in this case also clarified through a
Speaker 4: press release that quote, at no time did any member
Speaker 4: of HPD identify or file any report classifying Abrego Garcia
Speaker 4: as a member of any gang. Despite this, the executive
Speaker 4: branch is still going with that he's a violent gang member.
Speaker 4: They also doxed his wife this week by releasing a
Speaker 4: protective order that she had once filed and withdrawn, and
Speaker 4: when that was released, it contained her address, so she's
Speaker 4: now hiding in a safe house.
Speaker 2: They photoshopped a MS thirteen tattoo onto his knuckles above
Speaker 2: a weed leaf tattoo, a smiley face across and a skull.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they're going with. I guess specious is
Speaker 4: a specious is a good word?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just hideous nonsense?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely obscenely ridiculed. And then the other angler
Speaker 4: says is I'm just saying that you don't have a
Speaker 4: right to do process right like openly, just like Miller
Speaker 4: has been saying this. Jd Vance has been saying this
Speaker 4: on x dot com that like, these people don't have
Speaker 4: a right to do process for that. They've come up
Speaker 4: with various arguments for that. It also seems like two
Speaker 4: people sent twelve Salbador no longer appear on any official
Speaker 4: list of detainees. Yeah, which is concerning one of them,
Speaker 4: Ricardo Pradovasquez. He's not among the two hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: eight people we know on the manifest for those sent
Speaker 4: twelve Salbador. He doesn't appear to be in Venice Whaler,
Speaker 4: which is where his passport is from. And the fact
Speaker 4: that the government claims that they sent him. The government
Speaker 4: has said they sent him on the March fifteenth flights.
Speaker 4: He's not listed there. He's not visible in photos. Has
Speaker 4: led to concerns that we might have sent more people
Speaker 4: to Asarbadorre than we currently know about. He entered the
Speaker 4: country with a CBP one appointment. Right, which of all
Speaker 4: the ways to enter is the one that the US
Speaker 4: government was trying to force people to use at that time.
Speaker 2: Right, he very like legally entered the country. Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be clear, he entered at a port of
Speaker 4: entry with an appointment to claim asylum. He appears made
Speaker 4: a mistake when delivering food and ended up driving into
Speaker 4: Canada and was arrested when he attempted to return to
Speaker 4: the United States. He doesn't show up on the ICE
Speaker 4: detainee locator, and essentially no one knows where he is right.
Speaker 4: This concern has been compounded by the fact that it
Speaker 4: also emerged this week that the US has sent at
Speaker 4: least one detainee, Omar Abdul sata Amin to Rwanda, and
Speaker 4: the combination of these two things raises a concern that
Speaker 4: they are sending third country nationals to detention in other
Speaker 4: countries that we are not yet aware of. Right, of course,
Speaker 4: the Rwanda Plan was something that the UK government hatched
Speaker 4: a long time ago, and the Kagami government in Rwanda
Speaker 4: seems to see this offer right as a way of
Speaker 4: gaining legitimacy with governments in the global North, especially given
Speaker 4: the widespread criticism for its actions in the Democratic Republic
Speaker 4: of Congo. Recently, from the Handbasket, which is like a
Speaker 4: kind of substacky outlet, they've reviewed memos between the US
Speaker 4: government and the embassy in Rwanda, and I'm quoting from
Speaker 4: one of them here. The US provided a one time
Speaker 4: payment of one hundred thousand dollars to support social services,
Speaker 4: residency documents, and work permits. Rwanda has also, according to
Speaker 4: the Handbasket, agreed to accept ten more third country nationals.
Speaker 4: So the US is paying Rwanda a little bit more
Speaker 4: than it's paying El salbad Or. Right, it was paying
Speaker 4: El salborda twenty thousand per person per year, but it's
Speaker 4: a one time payment. Nonetheless, I struggle to believe that
Speaker 4: you could concoct a way in which it would cost
Speaker 4: Wander one hundred grand to produce a residency document and
Speaker 4: a work permit for an Iraqi national. But yeah, this
Speaker 4: has obviously led to the concern that people are being
Speaker 4: sent to other places that we don't yet know about
Speaker 4: talking to people being sent to other places. A US citizen,
Speaker 4: Jose Hermosille, was detained by ice after approaching a border
Speaker 4: patrol agent to ask for directions.
Speaker 3: He was detained for ten days.
Speaker 4: DHS is claiming that he was arrested near the Nogales
Speaker 4: border and that he approached the border patrol agent and
Speaker 4: upon doing so, identified himself as a non citizen who
Speaker 4: was not in the country legally, which is what they claim. Yes,
Speaker 4: so Hermaiceo disputes this along with his lawyers. He says
Speaker 4: he approached the agent looking for directions, having had a
Speaker 4: seizure and been in the hospital and when he got
Speaker 4: out of hospital was trying to work out where to go.
Speaker 4: He is from New Mexico, but he was visiting his
Speaker 4: girlfriend's family in Tucson. He told the agent he was
Speaker 4: from New Mexico, and the agent accused him of lying.
Speaker 4: In his account, DHS has to produce a transcript with
Speaker 4: I'm not going to call it a signature because it
Speaker 4: just has the word Jose written underneath it. Right, Mister Hermercio,
Speaker 4: according to his girlfriend, has some learning difficulties, and by
Speaker 4: her account, he wouldn't have been able to read the
Speaker 4: English language transcript that he's alleged to have signed. So, like,
Speaker 4: whether or not he signed this is rather a material right.
Speaker 4: He clearly, judging by her account, was not aware that
Speaker 4: he was in it. Judging by this, this is not
Speaker 4: even a signature with a last name. It's laughable to
Speaker 4: suggest that he like consentingly signed this. But nonetheless, he
Speaker 4: was detained for ten days till his family produced his
Speaker 4: documents in court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was arrested quote unquote without proper immigration documents,
Speaker 2: which you don't carry around when you're a US citizen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not obliged to please.
Speaker 2: You don't need that. His family brought his Social Security
Speaker 2: card certificate to court, and eventually the case against him
Speaker 2: was dismissed after being held by Ice for ten days.
Speaker 2: This reminds me of a similar case from this past week,
Speaker 2: where a US citizen was detained on Wednesday the sixteenth.
Speaker 2: This is a twenty year old born in Georgia, Juan
Speaker 2: Carlo's Lopez Gomez. He was pulled over while driving to
Speaker 2: work near the Florida border. He doesn't speak much English
Speaker 2: or Spanish. He speaks an indigenous mind language, but he
Speaker 2: gave his real ID card and Social Security card over
Speaker 2: to a state trooper. He was detained and charged with
Speaker 2: illegally entering the state as a quote unquote unauthorized alien. Similarly,
Speaker 2: the trooper claims that Lopez Gomez said that he was
Speaker 2: in the country illegally. This is like some kind of
Speaker 2: communication error or these law enforcement officers are just like
Speaker 2: lying or trying to construct like language traps to make
Speaker 2: someone agree to a statement that admits that they're in
Speaker 2: the country legally, which allows them to be detained. He
Speaker 2: was put into a twenty four hour ice hold. The
Speaker 2: next day, a federal judge verified his birth certificate, which
Speaker 2: is brought by his mother, but claims to lack the
Speaker 2: authority to release him, though he was released later Thursday night,
Speaker 2: and he was arrested under a new Florida law signed
Speaker 2: by the Santas last month, which a judge blocked earlier
Speaker 2: this month. On April fourth. This basically allows the state
Speaker 2: troopers to act as their state's own like border patrol,
Speaker 2: and it penalizes immigants who quote unquote knowingly enter or
Speaker 2: attempt to enter the state after entering the United States
Speaker 2: by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like the common thing here, right is that
Speaker 5: they're just we've seen this. There are a bunch of
Speaker 5: other cases that are like this too, where it's just
Speaker 5: like they see someone who's not white and they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: fuck it, we can grab this person and then just
Speaker 5: live about what they said. It's like it's not even very.
Speaker 2: Based on racial profiling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like things it's like it's not even
Speaker 5: it's not even like racial profiling anymore. Like it's it's
Speaker 5: they're just attempting to black bag like random non white
Speaker 5: people that they're just running across. Yes, and so of
Speaker 5: course they're like grabbing US citizens r because they're just
Speaker 5: grabbing random people. But it's like they're just fucking doing
Speaker 5: this to everyone. This has happened in other states as well.
Speaker 5: There's been instance like this like the past few months,
Speaker 5: which have which have increased in frequency since Trump has
Speaker 5: taken office. Yeah, let's go on a break and return
Speaker 5: to talk tariff. Okay, we are back. How's the how's
Speaker 5: the economy going?
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Speaker 2: us about tariffs?
Speaker 4: Week?
Speaker 5: So we got a look inside the White House this
Speaker 5: week at how the tariff, the turf tariff suspension happened. Now,
Speaker 5: remember so there was there was the deliberation day tariffs
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, and then they got suspended for
Speaker 5: ninety days. So we're all still on the ninety day
Speaker 5: countdone clock on those being unsuspended. But we got a
Speaker 5: view of how that happened from the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 5: and the Wall Street Journal reports that Secretary Treasurer Scott
Speaker 5: Bessett and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik basically waited until Trump
Speaker 5: advisor Peter Navarro was out of the room, and then
Speaker 5: it was in a meeting, and then they cornered Trump
Speaker 5: and we're like, you gotta roll these terror you gotta
Speaker 5: do this pause on the tariffs.
Speaker 3: Honestly iconic, you know, I hate to say it, but iconic.
Speaker 5: This was also all the first TRUP administration ran, and
Speaker 5: everyone appears to have forgotten that this is how all
Speaker 5: of the shit works.
Speaker 3: Well, because there was a there were all those stories
Speaker 3: for the first couple of weeks about how smooth and
Speaker 3: well run it was and everything.
Speaker 5: It's slow, yeah, and like the many people assume that
Speaker 5: there was like a plan behind this, and like, no, no,
Speaker 5: I am fucking vindicated. They really are just this fucking stupid, Like, no,
Speaker 5: there is not a grand strategy behind this sort of
Speaker 5: like tariff rollout.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: There is a senile old man and his stupid warring advisors,
Speaker 5: and they're both fighting each other basically for like they're
Speaker 5: they're they're they're they're trying like they're they're trying to
Speaker 5: wait until the other persons out of the room so
Speaker 5: they can grab control of the fucking puppet reins. But
Speaker 5: this this does actually lay bare something that's sort of
Speaker 5: important about this, which is that like there is a
Speaker 5: huge fight inside of the Trump administration between kind of
Speaker 5: lutnik who's like the representative of a bunch of different
Speaker 5: sort of sectors of American capital, right, Like he he's
Speaker 5: a representative of like you're fucking like Walgreens, dipshits, right,
Speaker 5: and like he's also representative of with the finance people,
Speaker 5: and those people are losing their fucking minds over the
Speaker 5: tariffs because it's again going to destroy the economy. But
Speaker 5: Navarro is you know, it's just like a hardline sort
Speaker 5: of like anti China ideologue. And and Navarro is the
Speaker 5: person who's been driving the most intense versions of these tariffs.
Speaker 5: And it's a real issue for everyone else in the
Speaker 5: administration who doesn't want this to happen because Navarro is
Speaker 5: like the one guy in the administrator in the Trump
Speaker 5: actually likes and so they can't directly move against him
Speaker 5: because they lose. Like Elon Musk tried this and like
Speaker 5: it got nowhere. And so you know what we've been
Speaker 5: seeing is is just like again, the tariff policy here
Speaker 5: is just being set by who's the last person in
Speaker 5: the room with him. Yeah, so we're probably still like
Speaker 5: about sixty days ish out from these terrorists coming back
Speaker 5: into effect. I mean this basically means like they'll be
Speaker 5: hitting in the summer, which is also just like absolutely
Speaker 5: the worst conceivable time for these terrifts to take effect
Speaker 5: in terms of like if you were just like deliberately
Speaker 5: trying to cause a massive popular mobilization against you. This
Speaker 5: is what you would do. They're not that, they're just dumb,
Speaker 5: but like, you know, so okay, let's most move on
Speaker 5: to the sort of big news of this week is
Speaker 5: the press has been carrying stories about Trump backing off
Speaker 5: of the one hundred and forty five percent China tariffs
Speaker 5: and the fact that there's going to be negotiations and
Speaker 5: it's all going to get wound down, and like, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure this is just kind of pure lutnik shit
Speaker 5: to try to calm the markets down. The issue with
Speaker 5: this story is that there are no negotiations, right. Everyone
Speaker 5: keeps talking about how the US is going to do
Speaker 5: negotiated settlement with China. There have not been any negotiations.
Speaker 5: There are not negotiations. There has not even been a
Speaker 5: process to start negotiations, because you know, the last stories
Speaker 5: we had about this was that like neither side wants
Speaker 5: to be the person to like start going to the
Speaker 5: table because like asking the other side for negotiations makes
Speaker 5: them look weak. Like Trump has been asking China to
Speaker 5: ask him the cert of negotiations. The Chinese are refusing.
Speaker 5: And the second issue here, and this is The more
Speaker 5: substantive problem with with a sort of negotiated back out
Speaker 5: is that the Trump Navarro position hinges on the line
Speaker 5: that the trade deficit inherently like with China, is proof
Speaker 5: of Chinese market manipulation. And the thing is, there's no
Speaker 5: actual way to systematically address that, right, Like there's that
Speaker 5: there's nothing that like either China or the US could
Speaker 5: do that would that would reverse the trade deficit. So
Speaker 5: there's no sort of like you know, like yeah, like
Speaker 5: like the obvious way out here would be for like
Speaker 5: Trump to take some kind of weird symbolic victory and
Speaker 5: like China to be like we're doing a fenntional crackdown
Speaker 5: or some shit. But the thing is, like, ideologically for
Speaker 5: someone like Navarro, and Navarro is the important figure here,
Speaker 5: like Navarro just wants trying to destroy it.
Speaker 3: Right There's there's no actual.
Speaker 5: Negotiating process that he can do that will actually sort
Speaker 5: of like make this like negotiation shit happen and have
Speaker 5: it actually like eliminated tariffs. The only thing that can
Speaker 5: happen basically is a political battle inside of the Trump
Speaker 5: administration where Davarro gets pushed out somehow. But again, Navarro
Speaker 5: is like Trump's guy. So I I just don't buy
Speaker 5: all of this, all of the fucking stories that are
Speaker 5: coming out, And this happens constantly, every single time there's
Speaker 5: one of these things, there's all these stories being like,
Speaker 5: well they're gonna get rolled back. It does actually mean this,
Speaker 5: and that just happens. Right, we have one hundred and
Speaker 5: forty five percent rais on China. Now, the last thing
Speaker 5: I want to talk about is what the actual effects
Speaker 5: of this has been. And the effect is that it
Speaker 5: has been. There's been a massive slow down and a
Speaker 5: massive like shutdown in in exports from China to the US,
Speaker 5: like an internship container ship traffic. Right, we're talking about
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna quote from CNBC here. So they're talking
Speaker 5: about Optimizer, which is like a tracking system for ships,
Speaker 5: and they said, quote, year on year, the data shows
Speaker 5: a forty four percent drop in vessels schedule to arrive
Speaker 5: the week of May.
Speaker 2: Fourth to May tenth.
Speaker 5: Now that that's not actually necessarily a forty percent drop
Speaker 5: in traffic, because there'll be more shit when like other
Speaker 5: boats get full. But you know, to put this into perspective, right,
Speaker 5: during the worst for trade, the worst parts of the
Speaker 5: COVID lockdowns the year and a year drop was only
Speaker 5: twenty percent, so and twenty percent is the number that's
Speaker 5: been that's been being spread around the media for like
Speaker 5: what roughly the drop looks like for some companies is
Speaker 5: larger than others. And again, the tariff, we still haven't
Speaker 5: even seen the actual shocks of the tariffs yet, and
Speaker 5: we're already seeing a decline in experts from China that
Speaker 5: is like again around the level of the lockdowns. And
Speaker 5: and you know, I think like people remember like the
Speaker 5: kind of unhinged shit that that caused, right, and that's
Speaker 5: something that you know is only going to intensify. And
Speaker 5: the other part of this, right is that the strategies
Speaker 5: right now for how this is being dealt with is
Speaker 5: moving through Vietnam, moving through Cambodia. But if you remember
Speaker 5: the rates from the original sort of like turf tariffs
Speaker 5: from Liberation Day, right, like the teriff from Vietnam was
Speaker 5: like one hundred percent or some shit, it was like
Speaker 5: eighty percent. I don't remember, zat my head, but like
Speaker 5: there's no actual viable strategy of just of ways you
Speaker 5: can route these goods through and it's been especially hitting
Speaker 5: the sort of drop shipping companies, right, like people like
Speaker 5: Temu and anything that realts in air phrase just getting fucked.
Speaker 5: And so this is all just you know, just sort
Speaker 5: of rolling in the background, is just this logistics crisis,
Speaker 5: and it's it's it's it's also an echo crisis. And
Speaker 5: this thing I actually want to close this section on
Speaker 5: is that, Like, so the big issue with these sort
Speaker 5: of empty boats, right and these cancelations at boat orders,
Speaker 5: is that in order for it to be profitable, because
Speaker 5: all of these these shipping companies run on such low margins, right,
Speaker 5: they only barely survive the pandemic by taking out a
Speaker 5: series of just like unhinged sort of like weird collateral
Speaker 5: based loans. And in order for these companies to be profitable,
Speaker 5: they have to continuously keep on completely filling up ships.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: If a ship is not full, it is not profitable
Speaker 5: for them to run it, so you know, and and
Speaker 5: if that's if that's not happening, the entire system literally
Speaker 5: grinds to a halt until there's enough orders to move
Speaker 5: things through. So even the ship that there is demand for,
Speaker 5: right can't be shipped because these shipping companies cannot afford
Speaker 5: to unless the entire thing is full. So the supply
Speaker 5: chain disruptions that we are going to see from this,
Speaker 5: as this sort of escalus and as this continues, and
Speaker 5: especially in a few months if the liberation dataies go
Speaker 5: back into effect, are catastrophic, And we really like, it's
Speaker 5: just it's this way. You can hear the thunder, you
Speaker 5: can see the lightning, but the storm hasn't hit yet,
Speaker 5: and it is going to and when it does, I
Speaker 5: don't know. I was trying to do a poetic thing
Speaker 5: about how we're all going to get fucking dredged, but
Speaker 5: we're fucked. It's going to be unbelievably bad. And the
Speaker 5: only process right now inside of the administration that doesn't
Speaker 5: involve like some kind of mobilization is like, again, is
Speaker 5: Leutnik winning this fucking intra intra administration political battle with Navarro?
Speaker 2: So woo, well, pre order your Nintendo switch too right now.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: In other news, the Minnesota Attorney General is assuming the
Speaker 2: Trump DMin over the executive order about trans women participating
Speaker 2: in school sports, saying he will quote not to participate
Speaker 2: in a shameful bullying and also says that this order
Speaker 2: violates the Minnesota Human Rights Act. So we'll see some
Speaker 2: more court cases over this in the weeks to come.
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk a little bit about student crackdowns
Speaker 2: for Palestine protests, kind of in a different way we've
Speaker 2: discussed like ICE going after and detaining and deporting and
Speaker 2: taking away visas and green cards, so unrelated to that
Speaker 2: side of it. On the morning of Wednesday, April twenty third,
Speaker 2: the FBI served multiple search warrants in southeast Michigan, presumably
Speaker 2: related to Palestine protests and encampments from the past year.
Speaker 2: There's also some reporting of law enforcement activity in other states,
Speaker 2: like Pennsylvania, but I'm still waiting to confirm that. The
Speaker 2: press secretary for the Michigan Attorney General confirms investigators executed
Speaker 2: search warrants for three homes. He said that people were
Speaker 2: briefly detained during the execution of these warrants, but they
Speaker 2: were all eventually released, and he noted, quote there is
Speaker 2: no immigration enforcement angle to the execution of these search
Speaker 2: warrants unquote, so these people aren't being investigated by ICE
Speaker 2: to get deported necessarily. This is seemingly for other protest activity.
Speaker 2: A pro Palestine student group says that these rates happened
Speaker 2: at around eight am quote. Early this morning, police an
Speaker 2: FBI agents rated four residences of University of Michigan pro
Speaker 2: Palestine protesters, refusing to show warrants. They seized all electronics
Speaker 2: and a number of personal belongings on quote. But let's
Speaker 2: close this episode by returning to my most Stephen Colbert
Speaker 2: Skibbity Biden segment, Stinky Musk, which is still the worst
Speaker 2: day I've come up with. Last Tuesday, Elon Musk said
Speaker 2: that quote working for the government to get the financial
Speaker 2: house in order is mostly done unquote, So Musk is
Speaker 2: moving closer to stepping back from DOGE this May, around
Speaker 2: the time that his Special Government Employee designation is set
Speaker 2: to expire. Reporting from Washington Post claims that Musk is
Speaker 2: growing tired of the vicious and unethical attacks from the
Speaker 2: left and that is kind of dragging on him, with
Speaker 2: other reports suggesting that Musk is annoying other Cabinet members
Speaker 2: and administration officials more than Trump himself. In fact, just
Speaker 2: this Wednesday, a few hours before recording, Musk and Bessett,
Speaker 2: we're having a pretty intense shouting match in the White House.
Speaker 2: Going forward, Musk says that he plans to work for
Speaker 2: the government about one to two days a week for
Speaker 2: the remainder of the Trump presidency so that he can
Speaker 2: quote make sure that the waste and fraud that we've
Speaker 2: stopped does not come roaring back unquote. He keeps referring
Speaker 2: to his work at DOGE is like being already completed. Essentially,
Speaker 2: we already found all of the fraud, and now we
Speaker 2: just have to make sure more fraud doesn't happen. We've
Speaker 2: previously reported on the alleged fraud that he claims to
Speaker 2: have found and the false numbers up on the doge site.
Speaker 2: But it seems like this work really is like winding
Speaker 2: down the musk. Doge like reply to this email with
Speaker 2: five things you've done this week, or else be fired.
Speaker 2: Directive has essentially sputted out senior officials did not comply
Speaker 2: with the core aspects of the directive. It was never
Speaker 2: really enforced, and the Trump Office of Personal Management later
Speaker 2: said that this was voluntary and that OPIUM officials may've
Speaker 2: never actually ever read those response emails at all. Though
Speaker 2: a small number of agencies are still requiring compliance with
Speaker 2: this mandate, and in some fun news, Tesla stock just
Speaker 2: continues to decline, dropping to half its peak from last December,
Speaker 2: and anti Tesla vandalism is potentially spiking the cost of
Speaker 2: Tesla insurance. Tesla had a just disastrous earnings call this Tuesday,
Speaker 2: April twenty second, showing that Tesla profits have fell seventy
Speaker 2: one percent over the first three months of the year.
Speaker 2: A total revenue has decreased nine percent compared to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, with car sales revenue dropping twenty percent compared
Speaker 2: to a year earlier. The Tesla CFO stated that quote,
Speaker 2: the negative impact of vandalism and unwarranted hostility towards our
Speaker 2: brand and our people had an impact in certain markets unquote.
Speaker 2: In a company statement before this earnings call, Tesla claimed
Speaker 2: dot quote unquote a changing political sentiment could impact demand
Speaker 2: for their product. Musk announce that he would be shifting
Speaker 2: his attention back to Tesla and that his Doge time
Speaker 2: allocation will quote unquote drop significantly. Musk talked tariffs on
Speaker 2: this earnings call and tried to carefully like not bash
Speaker 2: Trump while stating concerns over the high tariffs, saying quote,
Speaker 2: I've been on the record many times as saying I
Speaker 2: believe lower tariffs are generally a good idea, but this
Speaker 2: decision is fundamentally up to the elected representative of the people,
Speaker 2: being the President of the United States. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'll continue to advocate for lower tariffs, but that's all
Speaker 2: I can do.
Speaker 4: Unquote.
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Musk and Tesla here before we close.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one thing I want to remind everyone that is
Speaker 5: genuinely good news is that the thing about Tesla sales
Speaker 5: dropping is that it actually fucks them in two different ways,
Speaker 5: right because because again most of the most of their
Speaker 5: money is from these carbon credits that they're selling. But
Speaker 5: the thing is, in order to be able to get
Speaker 5: the carbon credits, they do need to be able to
Speaker 5: sell cars totally. And so each like subsequent cycle of
Speaker 5: people not buying cars is also destroying their carbon credit subsidies,
Speaker 5: which is like this sort of like spiraling like cash
Speaker 5: crisis thing. So you know, look, zero Tesla sales as possible,
Speaker 5: we can keep driving at world as possible.
Speaker 2: We can destroy these bastards.
Speaker 5: We can ruin this one guy specifically's life, and it's
Speaker 5: not even that difficult.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we reported the news.
Speaker 3: We reported the news.
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