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Speaker 1: Colson Media.

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Speaker 2: This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.

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Speaker 2: This episode, we're covering the week of April seventeen to

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Speaker 2: April twenty three. Jd Vance has killed the Pope. A

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Speaker 2: second pete hegseath on authorized signal chat has hit the

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Speaker 2: Department of Defense. The White House announces that the Education

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Speaker 2: Department will start collecting on defaulted student loans. Beanie clad

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Speaker 2: Tim Poole joins the White House press pool, and hippie

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Speaker 2: Facebook moms rejoice with artificial food dies being banned across America.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing, everybody?

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Speaker 3: So, after hearing that, fine, I guess I outlived the Pope.

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Speaker 2: I outlive the Pope.

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Speaker 3: You have to live several more decades to like outlive

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Speaker 3: the pope. Officially, I think he was eighty eight, So

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Speaker 3: he did it and did it.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness he did not die on Hitler's birthday, because

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Speaker 2: that would have been a whole other, whole other, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm still one day off. I'm thinking back to my

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Speaker 3: Catechism classes and trying to remember, like Pope dead on Easter,

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Speaker 3: good sign are bad?

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Speaker 4: That's definitely a sign and get some kind.

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Speaker 3: Of shine do we? How do we take that?

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Speaker 5: Shout out to the Pistons for holding off winning a

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Speaker 5: playoff game just long enough for the Pope to die,

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Speaker 5: such that Francistory's entire tournament office never saw a Pistons

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Speaker 5: playoff win. Congratulations to the Pistons, Gradulations to the City

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Speaker 5: of Detroit. Congratulations were withholding that from the Pope?

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Speaker 3: Didn't that mean love to see it? Did Pope Francis

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Speaker 3: have a strong opinion on the Pistons that he expressed

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Speaker 3: at some point because I may have missed that.

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Speaker 4: No, he knew they were in a Macomore song, so

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Speaker 4: therefore he hated them.

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Speaker 3: He was a huge mcle fan. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people don't know this, but the entire time the Pope

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Speaker 3: is lying in state, they're just going to be looping

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Speaker 3: thrift shop. So yeah, as Pope Francis wanted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was his dying wish.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who else probably used to listen to

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Speaker 2: mackilmore not anymore because he got too woke. But Pete

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Speaker 2: hegg Seth seems like us. He's like a twenty twelve

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Speaker 2: Macklemore guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it might have been. Might have been.

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Speaker 2: He was sharing plans for you many air strikes with

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Speaker 2: his wife, his brother and a personal lawyer in another signal.

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Speaker 3: Chat, I do the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, you've yet to act on your plans.

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Speaker 3: It's a difference. They are not interested.

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Speaker 2: Looping at the lawyers the real like God to your

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Speaker 2: move there.

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Speaker 6: That's so funny because I mean it says so much

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Speaker 6: both about like what's going on in Pete heg Seth's brain,

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Speaker 6: but of the quality of lawyer, because any lawyer worth

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Speaker 6: assault would be like please your movie chat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to get me out of this chat.

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Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? Are you? Are you texting

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Speaker 3: me missile package information?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Though, we've gotten great every like this guy from Julianti,

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Speaker 5: from all of the lawyers, these like random cartoon dipshits.

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Speaker 5: The right keeps finding that like they will just hand

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Speaker 5: you a law degree. Like if you hand the state

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Speaker 5: enough money, they will just hand you a law degree.

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Speaker 5: And you can just like bullshit your way to the

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Speaker 5: bar and you'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: Like they get that. Shout out to anyone you can

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Speaker 3: tell a really good lawyer in a room where legal

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Speaker 3: things are being discussed. And I've had this happen several

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Speaker 3: times because they just leave, they bounce, they get the

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Speaker 3: fuck out of the room. And that's a smart lawyer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if you saw it, but the

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Speaker 4: State of California was using AI to say it's bar

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Speaker 4: exam questions.

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Speaker 3: So ohird. You don't even have to be so that

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Speaker 3: the AI would be able to tell you, don't text

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Speaker 3: you your wife, lawyer and sun classified information about missile strikes.

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Speaker 3: But whatever.

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Speaker 2: Now, hopefully if they start using AI more to get

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Speaker 2: through school, they won't have they won't have as many

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Speaker 2: student loans to be collected on. Yeah, of practice that

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Speaker 2: has been paused since March of twenty twenty, set to

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Speaker 2: be resumed on May fifth. And then, Man, the Timpoole

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Speaker 2: thing was really wild. Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt gave a

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Speaker 2: give a glowing introduction to Tim Poole's addition to the

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Speaker 2: press room, and Tim's first question to the administration was

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Speaker 2: was asking why news media just lies so much about Trump.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic journalism here from comrade Tim, really probing question. Let's

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Speaker 2: pivot towards RFK and the concerning registry that has been discussed,

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Speaker 2: which is a word you never like to hear. Whenever

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Speaker 2: someone brings up the concept of a registry, it's usually.

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Speaker 3: Bad, always bad. So I'm going to talk in general

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Speaker 3: about what RFK, the things that he has said, not

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Speaker 3: just about autistic Americans, but about people who are receiving

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Speaker 3: psychiatric medication, people who are addicted to opiates, people who

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Speaker 3: are utilizing like stimulants, by which I mean ADHD medicine,

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Speaker 3: which if you have ADHD, that's not exactly the way

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Speaker 3: it functions, but that's the way he frames it. Because

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Speaker 3: these are all tied together, right. I have some frustrations

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Speaker 3: with kind of how it's been taken on social media

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Speaker 3: that I think are not causing people to worry when

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Speaker 3: they don't need to worry, but look at maybe sort

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Speaker 3: of the wrong area to see the immediate threat coming from.

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Speaker 3: So first I'm going to start with like what has

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Speaker 3: been said, and before we get to the registry, we

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Speaker 3: have to go back to what he was talking about

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Speaker 3: on the campaign trail because prior and this is prior

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Speaker 3: to him endorsing Donald Trump. When our FK Junior was

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Speaker 3: like an individual like running for president on his own

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Speaker 3: under his independent campaign, he started talking about wellness farms, right,

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Speaker 3: and these were specifically in the language that he use,

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Speaker 3: places that people who were addicted to psychiatric medication antidepressants

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Speaker 3: he named specifically antidepressants and stimulants as well as people

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Speaker 3: with opiate addictions, right, and he has since talked about

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Speaker 3: other drug addictions as well. Could go to spend three

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Speaker 3: or four years working on a farm. He always frames

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Speaker 3: it as also like learning skills. So it's this mix

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Speaker 3: of I want people to be able to work in

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Speaker 3: this in you know, lovely bucolic, you know agrarian setting

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Speaker 3: where they'll gain working skills. And then there's also pepperedin

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Speaker 3: these very frightening phrases like they need to be reparented

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Speaker 3: right now. In addition to this, he's not just that

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Speaker 3: this is all focused on Americans who are taking medications

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Speaker 3: that he thinks are over over prescribed or purely unnecessary. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's always the way, Like psychiatric medication. He almost has

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Speaker 3: a scientologist attitude towards it that like this is all

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Speaker 3: essentially unnecessary and obviously you know, all of this stuff

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Speaker 3: comes out of their elements of this that were true

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Speaker 3: at one point. For example, back in the nineties, like

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Speaker 3: Riddlin was wildly over prescribed to kids. But the way

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Speaker 3: in which he's translated this now is that basically everyone

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Speaker 3: And in a podcast in twenty twenty four, he went

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Speaker 3: further by kind of tying a lot of this to race,

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Speaker 3: specifically stating quote, every black kid is now just standard

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Speaker 3: put on adderall on SSRIs benzos, which are known to

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Speaker 3: chance to go somewhere and get reparented. So that's all

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Speaker 3: deeply concerning.

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Speaker 2: It's like kidnapping children. And forcibly, like demedicating.

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Speaker 3: I will say, that's not how he has framed it.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things is people I've heard it

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Speaker 3: phrases like rfks admitted he wants to imprison millions of

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Speaker 3: Americans in camps, and like, that's not what he said.

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Speaker 3: The direct quotes about this are not framed as a

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Speaker 3: mandatory thing. It's framed as a replacement for other treatments

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Speaker 3: That's what he's said, right, Okay, Now, perfectly reasonable when

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Speaker 3: putting up camps to be like, well, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I believe him, but it's not accurate that he

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Speaker 3: them onto camps. He just has not said that, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I think it behooves us to be honest about

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Speaker 3: what he said. I think it also who's to talk about,

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Speaker 3: like where this idea comes from, right, and what he's

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Speaker 3: looking back to. And again, a lot of the issue

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Speaker 3: fact that he might not be there forever, and if

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Speaker 3: he starts establishing this this kind of kind of program

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Speaker 3: that starts in an attempt to be something that is more,

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Speaker 3: you can choose to be on these camps or not.

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Speaker 3: There's certainly willingness within the Republican Party to force people

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Speaker 3: into different kinds of quote unquote treatment like this. And

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Speaker 3: one thing I think that particularly is the way in

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Speaker 3: which the right has liked to shift blame for gun

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Speaker 3: and onto people who are on psychiatric medication right, And

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Speaker 3: this is an area in which I could see someone

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Speaker 3: he does come out of a more quack medicine goal here,

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Speaker 3: putting people forcibly in camps and colonies like this, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, like the idea of like reparenting, I guess is

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Speaker 2: deeply problem Yes, incredibly scary phrase, but it is worth

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Speaker 2: noting as there's a very good teen Vogue article on

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Speaker 2: the matter called RFK wants to send people to wellness farms.

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Speaker 3: The US already tried that that talks about the actual

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Speaker 3: background that he is hearkening back to, because he is

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Speaker 3: not His vision of wellness farms is not like the

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Speaker 3: that things could wind up in a much darker direction.

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Speaker 3: But this gives you an idea of the history that

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Speaker 3: he is specifically calling back to. Quote beginning of the

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Speaker 3: eighteen nineties and continuing through the first decades of the

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Speaker 3: twentieth century, epileptic and feeble minded colonies sprung up around

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Speaker 3: the US. The initial purpose of these colonies was to

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Speaker 3: favor of farm life, where they would have access to

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Speaker 3: the outdoors. Under the colony model, patients generally lived in

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Speaker 3: It didn't work. Supporters of the colony model argued that

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Speaker 3: with time, clean air, sunshine, and a restricted diet, physical

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Speaker 3: labor could heal patients, but that didn't happen. Data from

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Speaker 3: the Craig Colony, one of the America's first epileptic colonies,

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Speaker 3: illustrates this point. During the nineteen forties, thanks to funding

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Speaker 3: Commission of Mental hygiene shows that less than one percent

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Speaker 3: of patients were discharged is cured that year. During that

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Speaker 3: RFK wants to do what the Nazis did, RFK wants

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Speaker 3: to do what the America already did, and it killed

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Speaker 4: eight people we know on the manifest for those sent

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Speaker 4: twelve Salbador. He doesn't appear to be in Venice Whaler,

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Speaker 4: which is where his passport is from. And the fact

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Speaker 4: that the government claims that they sent him. The government

436
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Speaker 4: has said they sent him on the March fifteenth flights.

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Speaker 4: He's not listed there. He's not visible in photos. Has

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Speaker 4: led to concerns that we might have sent more people

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Speaker 4: to Asarbadorre than we currently know about. He entered the

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Speaker 4: country with a CBP one appointment. Right, which of all

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Speaker 4: the ways to enter is the one that the US

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Speaker 4: government was trying to force people to use at that time.

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Speaker 2: Right, he very like legally entered the country. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to be clear, he entered at a port of

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Speaker 4: entry with an appointment to claim asylum. He appears made

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Speaker 4: a mistake when delivering food and ended up driving into

447
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Speaker 4: Canada and was arrested when he attempted to return to

448
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Speaker 4: the United States. He doesn't show up on the ICE

449
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Speaker 4: detainee locator, and essentially no one knows where he is right.

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Speaker 4: This concern has been compounded by the fact that it

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Speaker 4: also emerged this week that the US has sent at

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Speaker 4: least one detainee, Omar Abdul sata Amin to Rwanda, and

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Speaker 4: the combination of these two things raises a concern that

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Speaker 4: they are sending third country nationals to detention in other

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Speaker 4: countries that we are not yet aware of. Right, of course,

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Speaker 4: the Rwanda Plan was something that the UK government hatched

457
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Speaker 4: a long time ago, and the Kagami government in Rwanda

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Speaker 4: seems to see this offer right as a way of

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Speaker 4: gaining legitimacy with governments in the global North, especially given

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Speaker 4: the widespread criticism for its actions in the Democratic Republic

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Speaker 4: of Congo. Recently, from the Handbasket, which is like a

462
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Speaker 4: kind of substacky outlet, they've reviewed memos between the US

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Speaker 4: government and the embassy in Rwanda, and I'm quoting from

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Speaker 4: one of them here. The US provided a one time

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Speaker 4: payment of one hundred thousand dollars to support social services,

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Speaker 4: residency documents, and work permits. Rwanda has also, according to

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Speaker 4: the Handbasket, agreed to accept ten more third country nationals.

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Speaker 4: So the US is paying Rwanda a little bit more

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Speaker 4: than it's paying El salbad Or. Right, it was paying

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Speaker 4: El salborda twenty thousand per person per year, but it's

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Speaker 4: a one time payment. Nonetheless, I struggle to believe that

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Speaker 4: you could concoct a way in which it would cost

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Speaker 4: Wander one hundred grand to produce a residency document and

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Speaker 4: a work permit for an Iraqi national. But yeah, this

475
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: has obviously led to the concern that people are being

476
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Speaker 4: sent to other places that we don't yet know about

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Speaker 4: talking to people being sent to other places. A US citizen,

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Speaker 4: Jose Hermosille, was detained by ice after approaching a border

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Speaker 4: patrol agent to ask for directions.

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Speaker 3: He was detained for ten days.

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Speaker 4: DHS is claiming that he was arrested near the Nogales

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Speaker 4: border and that he approached the border patrol agent and

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Speaker 4: upon doing so, identified himself as a non citizen who

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Speaker 4: was not in the country legally, which is what they claim. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so Hermaiceo disputes this along with his lawyers. He says

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Speaker 4: he approached the agent looking for directions, having had a

487
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Speaker 4: seizure and been in the hospital and when he got

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Speaker 4: out of hospital was trying to work out where to go.

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Speaker 4: He is from New Mexico, but he was visiting his

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Speaker 4: girlfriend's family in Tucson. He told the agent he was

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Speaker 4: from New Mexico, and the agent accused him of lying.

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Speaker 4: In his account, DHS has to produce a transcript with

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to call it a signature because it

494
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Speaker 4: just has the word Jose written underneath it. Right, Mister Hermercio,

495
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Speaker 4: according to his girlfriend, has some learning difficulties, and by

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Speaker 4: her account, he wouldn't have been able to read the

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Speaker 4: English language transcript that he's alleged to have signed. So, like,

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Speaker 4: whether or not he signed this is rather a material right.

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Speaker 4: He clearly, judging by her account, was not aware that

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Speaker 4: he was in it. Judging by this, this is not

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Speaker 4: even a signature with a last name. It's laughable to

502
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Speaker 4: suggest that he like consentingly signed this. But nonetheless, he

503
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Speaker 4: was detained for ten days till his family produced his

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Speaker 4: documents in court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was arrested quote unquote without proper immigration documents,

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Speaker 2: which you don't carry around when you're a US citizen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not obliged to please.

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Speaker 2: You don't need that. His family brought his Social Security

509
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Speaker 2: card certificate to court, and eventually the case against him

510
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Speaker 2: was dismissed after being held by Ice for ten days.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of a similar case from this past week,

512
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Speaker 2: where a US citizen was detained on Wednesday the sixteenth.

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Speaker 2: This is a twenty year old born in Georgia, Juan

514
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Speaker 2: Carlo's Lopez Gomez. He was pulled over while driving to

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Speaker 2: work near the Florida border. He doesn't speak much English

516
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Speaker 2: or Spanish. He speaks an indigenous mind language, but he

517
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Speaker 2: gave his real ID card and Social Security card over

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Speaker 2: to a state trooper. He was detained and charged with

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Speaker 2: illegally entering the state as a quote unquote unauthorized alien. Similarly,

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Speaker 2: the trooper claims that Lopez Gomez said that he was

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Speaker 2: in the country illegally. This is like some kind of

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Speaker 2: communication error or these law enforcement officers are just like

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Speaker 2: lying or trying to construct like language traps to make

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Speaker 2: someone agree to a statement that admits that they're in

525
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Speaker 2: the country legally, which allows them to be detained. He

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Speaker 2: was put into a twenty four hour ice hold. The

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Speaker 2: next day, a federal judge verified his birth certificate, which

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Speaker 2: is brought by his mother, but claims to lack the

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Speaker 2: authority to release him, though he was released later Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: and he was arrested under a new Florida law signed

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Speaker 2: by the Santas last month, which a judge blocked earlier

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Speaker 2: this month. On April fourth. This basically allows the state

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Speaker 2: troopers to act as their state's own like border patrol,

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Speaker 2: and it penalizes immigants who quote unquote knowingly enter or

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Speaker 2: attempt to enter the state after entering the United States

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Speaker 2: by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and like the common thing here, right is that

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Speaker 5: they're just we've seen this. There are a bunch of

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Speaker 5: other cases that are like this too, where it's just

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Speaker 5: like they see someone who's not white and they're just like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: fuck it, we can grab this person and then just

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Speaker 5: live about what they said. It's like it's not even very.

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Speaker 2: Based on racial profiling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like things it's like it's not even

545
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Speaker 5: it's not even like racial profiling anymore. Like it's it's

546
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Speaker 5: they're just attempting to black bag like random non white

547
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 5: people that they're just running across. Yes, and so of

548
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: course they're like grabbing US citizens r because they're just

549
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: grabbing random people. But it's like they're just fucking doing

550
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: this to everyone. This has happened in other states as well.

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Speaker 5: There's been instance like this like the past few months,

552
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Speaker 5: which have which have increased in frequency since Trump has

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Speaker 5: taken office. Yeah, let's go on a break and return

554
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Speaker 5: to talk tariff. Okay, we are back. How's the how's

555
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 5: the economy going?

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Speaker 2: Locking jazz bo rocking jazz bot Sary.

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Speaker 6: Locking jazz brocky jazz.

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Speaker 2: Bock do not like? Okay, Mia, what can you tell

559
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: us about tariffs?

560
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Speaker 4: Week?

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Speaker 5: So we got a look inside the White House this

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Speaker 5: week at how the tariff, the turf tariff suspension happened. Now,

563
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Speaker 5: remember so there was there was the deliberation day tariffs

564
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Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, and then they got suspended for

565
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Speaker 5: ninety days. So we're all still on the ninety day

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Speaker 5: countdone clock on those being unsuspended. But we got a

567
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Speaker 5: view of how that happened from the Wall Street Journal,

568
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Speaker 5: and the Wall Street Journal reports that Secretary Treasurer Scott

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Speaker 5: Bessett and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik basically waited until Trump

570
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: advisor Peter Navarro was out of the room, and then

571
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: it was in a meeting, and then they cornered Trump

572
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 5: and we're like, you gotta roll these terror you gotta

573
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Speaker 5: do this pause on the tariffs.

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Speaker 3: Honestly iconic, you know, I hate to say it, but iconic.

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Speaker 5: This was also all the first TRUP administration ran, and

576
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 5: everyone appears to have forgotten that this is how all

577
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Speaker 5: of the shit works.

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Speaker 3: Well, because there was a there were all those stories

579
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Speaker 3: for the first couple of weeks about how smooth and

580
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Speaker 3: well run it was and everything.

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Speaker 5: It's slow, yeah, and like the many people assume that

582
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Speaker 5: there was like a plan behind this, and like, no, no,

583
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: I am fucking vindicated. They really are just this fucking stupid, Like, no,

584
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: there is not a grand strategy behind this sort of

585
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Speaker 5: like tariff rollout.

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Speaker 3: Right.

587
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Speaker 5: There is a senile old man and his stupid warring advisors,

588
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: and they're both fighting each other basically for like they're

589
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: they're they're they're they're trying like they're they're trying to

590
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: wait until the other persons out of the room so

591
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: they can grab control of the fucking puppet reins. But

592
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Speaker 5: this this does actually lay bare something that's sort of

593
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: important about this, which is that like there is a

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00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: huge fight inside of the Trump administration between kind of

595
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 5: lutnik who's like the representative of a bunch of different

596
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 5: sort of sectors of American capital, right, Like he he's

597
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: a representative of like you're fucking like Walgreens, dipshits, right,

598
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: and like he's also representative of with the finance people,

599
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: and those people are losing their fucking minds over the

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Speaker 5: tariffs because it's again going to destroy the economy. But

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Speaker 5: Navarro is you know, it's just like a hardline sort

602
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Speaker 5: of like anti China ideologue. And and Navarro is the

603
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: person who's been driving the most intense versions of these tariffs.

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Speaker 5: And it's a real issue for everyone else in the

605
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: administration who doesn't want this to happen because Navarro is

606
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: like the one guy in the administrator in the Trump

607
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: actually likes and so they can't directly move against him

608
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: because they lose. Like Elon Musk tried this and like

609
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: it got nowhere. And so you know what we've been

610
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Speaker 5: seeing is is just like again, the tariff policy here

611
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: is just being set by who's the last person in

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Speaker 5: the room with him. Yeah, so we're probably still like

613
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: about sixty days ish out from these terrorists coming back

614
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Speaker 5: into effect. I mean this basically means like they'll be

615
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Speaker 5: hitting in the summer, which is also just like absolutely

616
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: the worst conceivable time for these terrifts to take effect

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00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: in terms of like if you were just like deliberately

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Speaker 5: trying to cause a massive popular mobilization against you. This

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Speaker 5: is what you would do. They're not that, they're just dumb,

620
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: but like, you know, so okay, let's most move on

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Speaker 5: to the sort of big news of this week is

622
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Speaker 5: the press has been carrying stories about Trump backing off

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Speaker 5: of the one hundred and forty five percent China tariffs

624
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: and the fact that there's going to be negotiations and

625
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: it's all going to get wound down, and like, I'm

626
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: pretty sure this is just kind of pure lutnik shit

627
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: to try to calm the markets down. The issue with

628
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 5: this story is that there are no negotiations, right. Everyone

629
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: keeps talking about how the US is going to do

630
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: negotiated settlement with China. There have not been any negotiations.

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Speaker 5: There are not negotiations. There has not even been a

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Speaker 5: process to start negotiations, because you know, the last stories

633
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: we had about this was that like neither side wants

634
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: to be the person to like start going to the

635
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: table because like asking the other side for negotiations makes

636
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Speaker 5: them look weak. Like Trump has been asking China to

637
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: ask him the cert of negotiations. The Chinese are refusing.

638
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: And the second issue here, and this is The more

639
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: substantive problem with with a sort of negotiated back out

640
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 5: is that the Trump Navarro position hinges on the line

641
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: that the trade deficit inherently like with China, is proof

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00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: of Chinese market manipulation. And the thing is, there's no

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Speaker 5: actual way to systematically address that, right, Like there's that

644
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: there's nothing that like either China or the US could

645
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: do that would that would reverse the trade deficit. So

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Speaker 5: there's no sort of like you know, like yeah, like

647
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Speaker 5: like the obvious way out here would be for like

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Speaker 5: Trump to take some kind of weird symbolic victory and

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Speaker 5: like China to be like we're doing a fenntional crackdown

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Speaker 5: or some shit. But the thing is, like, ideologically for

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Speaker 5: someone like Navarro, and Navarro is the important figure here,

652
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Speaker 5: like Navarro just wants trying to destroy it.

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Speaker 3: Right There's there's no actual.

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Speaker 5: Negotiating process that he can do that will actually sort

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Speaker 5: of like make this like negotiation shit happen and have

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Speaker 5: it actually like eliminated tariffs. The only thing that can

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Speaker 5: happen basically is a political battle inside of the Trump

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Speaker 5: administration where Davarro gets pushed out somehow. But again, Navarro

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Speaker 5: is like Trump's guy. So I I just don't buy

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Speaker 5: all of this, all of the fucking stories that are

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Speaker 5: coming out, And this happens constantly, every single time there's

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Speaker 5: one of these things, there's all these stories being like,

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Speaker 5: well they're gonna get rolled back. It does actually mean this,

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Speaker 5: and that just happens. Right, we have one hundred and

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Speaker 5: forty five percent rais on China. Now, the last thing

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about is what the actual effects

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Speaker 5: of this has been. And the effect is that it

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Speaker 5: has been. There's been a massive slow down and a

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Speaker 5: massive like shutdown in in exports from China to the US,

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Speaker 5: like an internship container ship traffic. Right, we're talking about

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna quote from CNBC here. So they're talking

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Speaker 5: about Optimizer, which is like a tracking system for ships,

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Speaker 5: and they said, quote, year on year, the data shows

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Speaker 5: a forty four percent drop in vessels schedule to arrive

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Speaker 5: the week of May.

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Speaker 2: Fourth to May tenth.

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Speaker 5: Now that that's not actually necessarily a forty percent drop

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Speaker 5: in traffic, because there'll be more shit when like other

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Speaker 5: boats get full. But you know, to put this into perspective, right,

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Speaker 5: during the worst for trade, the worst parts of the

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Speaker 5: COVID lockdowns the year and a year drop was only

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Speaker 5: twenty percent, so and twenty percent is the number that's

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Speaker 5: been that's been being spread around the media for like

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Speaker 5: what roughly the drop looks like for some companies is

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Speaker 5: larger than others. And again, the tariff, we still haven't

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Speaker 5: even seen the actual shocks of the tariffs yet, and

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Speaker 5: we're already seeing a decline in experts from China that

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Speaker 5: is like again around the level of the lockdowns. And

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Speaker 5: and you know, I think like people remember like the

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Speaker 5: kind of unhinged shit that that caused, right, and that's

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Speaker 5: something that you know is only going to intensify. And

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Speaker 5: the other part of this, right is that the strategies

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Speaker 5: right now for how this is being dealt with is

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Speaker 5: moving through Vietnam, moving through Cambodia. But if you remember

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Speaker 5: the rates from the original sort of like turf tariffs

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Speaker 5: from Liberation Day, right, like the teriff from Vietnam was

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Speaker 5: like one hundred percent or some shit, it was like

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Speaker 5: eighty percent. I don't remember, zat my head, but like

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Speaker 5: there's no actual viable strategy of just of ways you

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Speaker 5: can route these goods through and it's been especially hitting

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Speaker 5: the sort of drop shipping companies, right, like people like

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Speaker 5: Temu and anything that realts in air phrase just getting fucked.

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Speaker 5: And so this is all just you know, just sort

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Speaker 5: of rolling in the background, is just this logistics crisis,

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Speaker 5: and it's it's it's it's also an echo crisis. And

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Speaker 5: this thing I actually want to close this section on

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Speaker 5: is that, Like, so the big issue with these sort

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Speaker 5: of empty boats, right and these cancelations at boat orders,

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Speaker 5: is that in order for it to be profitable, because

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Speaker 5: all of these these shipping companies run on such low margins, right,

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Speaker 5: they only barely survive the pandemic by taking out a

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Speaker 5: series of just like unhinged sort of like weird collateral

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Speaker 5: based loans. And in order for these companies to be profitable,

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Speaker 5: they have to continuously keep on completely filling up ships.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: If a ship is not full, it is not profitable

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Speaker 5: for them to run it, so you know, and and

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Speaker 5: if that's if that's not happening, the entire system literally

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Speaker 5: grinds to a halt until there's enough orders to move

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Speaker 5: things through. So even the ship that there is demand for,

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Speaker 5: right can't be shipped because these shipping companies cannot afford

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Speaker 5: to unless the entire thing is full. So the supply

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Speaker 5: chain disruptions that we are going to see from this,

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Speaker 5: as this sort of escalus and as this continues, and

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Speaker 5: especially in a few months if the liberation dataies go

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Speaker 5: back into effect, are catastrophic, And we really like, it's

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Speaker 5: just it's this way. You can hear the thunder, you

728
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Speaker 5: can see the lightning, but the storm hasn't hit yet,

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00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 5: and it is going to and when it does, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I was trying to do a poetic thing

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00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 5: about how we're all going to get fucking dredged, but

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Speaker 5: we're fucked. It's going to be unbelievably bad. And the

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Speaker 5: only process right now inside of the administration that doesn't

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Speaker 5: involve like some kind of mobilization is like, again, is

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Speaker 5: Leutnik winning this fucking intra intra administration political battle with Navarro?

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Speaker 2: So woo, well, pre order your Nintendo switch too right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: In other news, the Minnesota Attorney General is assuming the

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Speaker 2: Trump DMin over the executive order about trans women participating

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Speaker 2: in school sports, saying he will quote not to participate

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Speaker 2: in a shameful bullying and also says that this order

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Speaker 2: violates the Minnesota Human Rights Act. So we'll see some

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Speaker 2: more court cases over this in the weeks to come.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to talk a little bit about student crackdowns

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Speaker 2: for Palestine protests, kind of in a different way we've

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Speaker 2: discussed like ICE going after and detaining and deporting and

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Speaker 2: taking away visas and green cards, so unrelated to that

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Speaker 2: side of it. On the morning of Wednesday, April twenty third,

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Speaker 2: the FBI served multiple search warrants in southeast Michigan, presumably

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Speaker 2: related to Palestine protests and encampments from the past year.

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Speaker 2: There's also some reporting of law enforcement activity in other states,

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Speaker 2: like Pennsylvania, but I'm still waiting to confirm that. The

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Speaker 2: press secretary for the Michigan Attorney General confirms investigators executed

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Speaker 2: search warrants for three homes. He said that people were

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Speaker 2: briefly detained during the execution of these warrants, but they

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Speaker 2: were all eventually released, and he noted, quote there is

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Speaker 2: no immigration enforcement angle to the execution of these search

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Speaker 2: warrants unquote, so these people aren't being investigated by ICE

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Speaker 2: to get deported necessarily. This is seemingly for other protest activity.

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Speaker 2: A pro Palestine student group says that these rates happened

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Speaker 2: at around eight am quote. Early this morning, police an

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Speaker 2: FBI agents rated four residences of University of Michigan pro

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Speaker 2: Palestine protesters, refusing to show warrants. They seized all electronics

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Speaker 2: and a number of personal belongings on quote. But let's

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Speaker 2: close this episode by returning to my most Stephen Colbert

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Speaker 2: Skibbity Biden segment, Stinky Musk, which is still the worst

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Speaker 2: day I've come up with. Last Tuesday, Elon Musk said

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Speaker 2: that quote working for the government to get the financial

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Speaker 2: house in order is mostly done unquote, So Musk is

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Speaker 2: moving closer to stepping back from DOGE this May, around

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Speaker 2: the time that his Special Government Employee designation is set

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Speaker 2: to expire. Reporting from Washington Post claims that Musk is

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Speaker 2: growing tired of the vicious and unethical attacks from the

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Speaker 2: left and that is kind of dragging on him, with

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Speaker 2: other reports suggesting that Musk is annoying other Cabinet members

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Speaker 2: and administration officials more than Trump himself. In fact, just

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday, a few hours before recording, Musk and Bessett,

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Speaker 2: we're having a pretty intense shouting match in the White House.

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Speaker 2: Going forward, Musk says that he plans to work for

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Speaker 2: the government about one to two days a week for

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Speaker 2: the remainder of the Trump presidency so that he can

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Speaker 2: quote make sure that the waste and fraud that we've

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Speaker 2: stopped does not come roaring back unquote. He keeps referring

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Speaker 2: to his work at DOGE is like being already completed. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: we already found all of the fraud, and now we

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Speaker 2: just have to make sure more fraud doesn't happen. We've

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Speaker 2: previously reported on the alleged fraud that he claims to

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Speaker 2: have found and the false numbers up on the doge site.

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Speaker 2: But it seems like this work really is like winding

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Speaker 2: down the musk. Doge like reply to this email with

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Speaker 2: five things you've done this week, or else be fired.

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Speaker 2: Directive has essentially sputted out senior officials did not comply

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Speaker 2: with the core aspects of the directive. It was never

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Speaker 2: really enforced, and the Trump Office of Personal Management later

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Speaker 2: said that this was voluntary and that OPIUM officials may've

796
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Speaker 2: never actually ever read those response emails at all. Though

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Speaker 2: a small number of agencies are still requiring compliance with

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Speaker 2: this mandate, and in some fun news, Tesla stock just

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Speaker 2: continues to decline, dropping to half its peak from last December,

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Speaker 2: and anti Tesla vandalism is potentially spiking the cost of

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Speaker 2: Tesla insurance. Tesla had a just disastrous earnings call this Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: April twenty second, showing that Tesla profits have fell seventy

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Speaker 2: one percent over the first three months of the year.

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Speaker 2: A total revenue has decreased nine percent compared to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, with car sales revenue dropping twenty percent compared

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Speaker 2: to a year earlier. The Tesla CFO stated that quote,

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Speaker 2: the negative impact of vandalism and unwarranted hostility towards our

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Speaker 2: brand and our people had an impact in certain markets unquote.

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Speaker 2: In a company statement before this earnings call, Tesla claimed

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Speaker 2: dot quote unquote a changing political sentiment could impact demand

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Speaker 2: for their product. Musk announce that he would be shifting

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Speaker 2: his attention back to Tesla and that his Doge time

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Speaker 2: allocation will quote unquote drop significantly. Musk talked tariffs on

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Speaker 2: this earnings call and tried to carefully like not bash

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Speaker 2: Trump while stating concerns over the high tariffs, saying quote,

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Speaker 2: I've been on the record many times as saying I

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Speaker 2: believe lower tariffs are generally a good idea, but this

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Speaker 2: decision is fundamentally up to the elected representative of the people,

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Speaker 2: being the President of the United States. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll continue to advocate for lower tariffs, but that's all

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Speaker 2: I can do.

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Speaker 4: Unquote.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Musk and Tesla here before we close.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one thing I want to remind everyone that is

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Speaker 5: genuinely good news is that the thing about Tesla sales

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Speaker 5: dropping is that it actually fucks them in two different ways,

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Speaker 5: right because because again most of the most of their

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Speaker 5: money is from these carbon credits that they're selling. But

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Speaker 5: the thing is, in order to be able to get

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Speaker 5: the carbon credits, they do need to be able to

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Speaker 5: sell cars totally. And so each like subsequent cycle of

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Speaker 5: people not buying cars is also destroying their carbon credit subsidies,

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Speaker 5: which is like this sort of like spiraling like cash

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Speaker 5: crisis thing. So you know, look, zero Tesla sales as possible,

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Speaker 5: we can keep driving at world as possible.

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Speaker 2: We can destroy these bastards.

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Speaker 5: We can ruin this one guy specifically's life, and it's

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Speaker 5: not even that difficult.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we reported the news.

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Speaker 3: We reported the news.

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