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Speaker 2: I hope you're having a great day.

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Speaker 1: We are joining you live from green Bay, Wisconsin. You're

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Speaker 1: like Doug, You're always live at green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking in the background, there there's the

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Speaker 1: g right that Slambo Field, and right behind me is

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Speaker 1: the practice field where the Green Bay Packers complete their

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Speaker 1: practice of the day. And we're going to talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about the pac today. Stop about the pack Arry

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Speaker 1: nag Who's going to join us, co founder of Cheesehead TV.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk some Cleveland round football, yeah, the Browns. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also Rob Demovski is gonna join us. Long time, long time,

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Speaker 1: describe covering the green Bay package and then if you

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Speaker 1: So five on the East two on the West coast.

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Speaker 1: You can hear my discussion with Kyal Malsan, who for

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Speaker 1: the CBS affiliate covers the Green Bay Packers. So we're

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Speaker 1: here in Green Bay covering Green Bay Packer Camp. We

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Speaker 1: should be hitting up the Chicago Bears, I believe, the

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Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers and maybe one more TBD in

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Speaker 1: terms of little training camp tour from your boy, and

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Speaker 1: it's great. It's an incredible place. If you haven't come

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Speaker 1: camp is much the same. Right if you if you're

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Speaker 1: looking behind me, that's the road that the players ride kids'

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Speaker 1: real thing. It's like they don't really do that. No,

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Speaker 1: the bikes back. Pretty cool. But I think this is

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Speaker 1: a fascinating year for the pack because two years ago

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Speaker 1: there were no expectations of Jordan Love. He exceeded them.

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Speaker 1: They had the San Francisco forty nine ers felt like

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Speaker 1: dead to rights in the playoffs, couldn't close last year.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would say it wasn't disappointing. You

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Speaker 1: turned the ball over a bit too much and they

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Speaker 1: Here's Jordan Love earlier today talking about his team and

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Speaker 3: I was definitely surprised, you know, going in that first round,

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Speaker 3: having the draft here in Green Bay and hearing them,

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Speaker 3: I was pretty excited about that. Bringing in Matthew Golden

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Speaker 1: What was and still is the youngest team in the

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Speaker 1: They probably don't take off. They're likely better, but not

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Speaker 1: the I don't know if it's what's the word, guys,

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Speaker 1: not juxtaposition, it's you're pulled in opposite directions here here

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Speaker 1: where I am at Packer camp in the shadows of

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Speaker 1: if you're suffering CTE or something that feels like it

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Speaker 1: texting my CBS friends like, are you guys okay? Anybody

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Speaker 1: when these terrible mass shootings that affects anybody, but now

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Speaker 4: This is the best of the Don dot Leaf Show

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Speaker 1: Radio stutgott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, and we're live

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Speaker 1: here at Packers Camp. We're actually across the street from

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Speaker 1: Packers Camp at on the sixth floor of the Legacy Hotel.

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Speaker 1: And Rob Demowski kind of just stop by whether this.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Rob has covered the Packers all Green Bay

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Speaker 1: sports since ninety seven. He covers it for ESPNNFL Nation,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: walk into a gym and watch practice and they go like,

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Speaker 1: that team looks different than all the other teams that

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Speaker 1: I've seen. They look like a championship temp. Have you

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Speaker 1: experienced that during your time of covering the Packers, that

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Speaker 1: the championship caliber teams look differently than the others?

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Speaker 5: Yes, except for the year that they won the Super

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Speaker 5: So just because you don't look like one sure doesn't

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Speaker 5: the thing that strikes me about this team, Doug, is

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Speaker 5: that it's a really young team that has played a

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Speaker 5: Last year, second again the youngest team in football. They

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Speaker 5: win eleven games. They flame out in the playoffs. But

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Speaker 5: still really young but they're not but they're not an experience. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and that goes a long way. And this experience goes

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Speaker 5: a long way in this league.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the youth goes a long way because still

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Speaker 1: hungry for that big the big contracts. Yep, but also

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Speaker 1: you get hurt less often. You think more energy in

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Speaker 1: and think about this last year, Doug, they won eleven games,

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Speaker 5: But I mean the point is that they know that

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Speaker 5: That's why I think things are lining up a little

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years. They haven't had home games

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. They haven't played at Land be Fit.

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Speaker 5: They had to go to Dallas. Now they kicked Dallas's

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Speaker 5: to Philly. Like there were like three teams that they

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Speaker 5: couldn't beat last year. It was Detroit, Minnesota, and Philly. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's robbed him Bovski check his work out at ESPN

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Speaker 1: from just outside lambeau Field, covering Packers' training camp here

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Speaker 2: Yes at Lambo, Yes, it's all same guys.

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Speaker 1: Correct, same people, same people.

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Speaker 2: It's a different place and it's special in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you're telling somebody from out of town where

438
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Speaker 1: to go to eat on a Packer week, where.

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Speaker 2: Would you go?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're the peer guy. You going to Orsetta

441
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Speaker 5: Hotel is really good? You need hotel. It's been there

442
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Speaker 5: about one hundred and some years. Packers players used to

443
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Speaker 5: live in the hotel above it, like it's got some

444
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Speaker 5: great history. That place is unbelievable. I mean we're sitting

445
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Speaker 5: out here looking at lambeau Field. There's ten places right here.

446
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Speaker 5: If you want the Packer experience. Yeah, but to me,

447
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Speaker 5: go go to your place, to the Iron Duck right

448
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Speaker 5: to go to Rusty Pizzeria.

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Speaker 1: I do, like that's the opposite side of where you are.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, place, get.

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Speaker 2: It, Doug. Like I grew up in Chicago. It takes

452
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Speaker 2: an hour to get in.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes, like fourteen everybody says fourteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you notice that, Well, unless the bridge is up

455
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Speaker 2: and you get stuck.

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Speaker 1: On the river, fourteen minutes. Any anywhere to get it?

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Speaker 2: If?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 1: October twenty sixth they go to Pittsburgh, Okay, yeah, Sunday

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Speaker 1: night football?

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Speaker 2: What like?

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Speaker 1: Where is Aaron Rodgers for Packer fans? In your mind?

463
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Speaker 1: I think it's different than five. I think when Farv

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Speaker 1: left here, fans wanted Brett Favre to still be here.

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Speaker 1: I think when Aaron Rodgers they were read, they were done,

466
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Speaker 1: they were ready to be done. And not because I

467
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Speaker 1: just think it was all the extra stuff going on

468
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Speaker 1: around him. Not that they didn't respect him as a player,

469
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Speaker 1: but I just think the feeling was that Brett Favre

470
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Speaker 1: was always one of us. Aaron Rodgers was one of

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Speaker 1: us because he was a good player, and then beyond that,

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Speaker 1: that's probably it. Yeah. It is weird though that so

473
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Speaker 1: many people are left with that same feeling. And you

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Speaker 1: could make the case like in terms of as a person,

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Speaker 1: there's probably more redeeming qualities in many ways that Aaron

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Speaker 1: as opposed to Brett. Right, Brett seems like a better

477
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Speaker 1: time to hang around, but Aaron there's a lot of

478
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Speaker 1: thought and everything he does whenever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're a guy who likes to sit at

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Speaker 5: the bar and tell stories, you want to hang out

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Speaker 5: with Brett. If your guy who wants to talk philosophical

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Speaker 5: why are we here?

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Speaker 2: What is the planet?

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Speaker 4: Ye?

485
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Speaker 2: What is life? Ben Rodgers is your guy?

486
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Speaker 1: Where's Jordan love hitting that?

487
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Speaker 2: We don't know yet.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's really really nice, but quite honestly, right

489
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Speaker 5: now and probably by design, he's a little boring. He

490
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Speaker 5: hasn't let us in. Most of them are well, it's

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Speaker 5: funny real quick. I'm sure we gotta go but no,

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Speaker 5: we got time but real quick. Last year I was

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Speaker 5: talking to Josh Myers, who was their center last year,

494
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Speaker 5: about how different it is to have a guy like

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Speaker 5: Love who doesn't throw up his hands when a receiver

496
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Speaker 5: drops a pass, doesn't get on the offensive lineman, it

497
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Speaker 5: doesn't get on the center when he snaps it over

498
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Speaker 5: their head, and he goes, well, let's wait.

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Speaker 2: And see what Jordan's like in thirteen years, because you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you last that long and you're that good,

501
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Speaker 5: you're probably gonna, you know, do some things that people

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Speaker 5: don't you know, that people don't really like. And that's

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Speaker 5: just that's the nature of quarterbacks. That's the nature of

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Speaker 5: guys that have success in this league and have been.

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Speaker 2: Around a long time.

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Speaker 1: Fellow Wisconsin i at Dan Byer has one for well.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to test the waters with Rob and see

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Speaker 7: if he has experienced this as well. I'm born and

509
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Speaker 7: raised in Wisconsin, and all of my aunts call the

510
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Speaker 7: quarterback by their first name, Yea, So it was never

511
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Speaker 7: it was never far for Rogers, it was always Brett

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Speaker 7: or Aaron. And I don't think any other fan base

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Speaker 7: does that with their fans. It's just to me That's

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Speaker 7: what always stood out. How do you think Aaron's gonna do?

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Speaker 7: How do you think Brett's gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think and I think that's locally Dan, that that's true.

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Speaker 5: But I don't have people from out of town asking me, hey,

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Speaker 5: what's you know? What was Aaron?

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Speaker 2: Like? It was always what was Rogers?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 5: Sure that was far Like, but yeah, you're right, I

523
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Speaker 5: mean Brett, Brett was Brett, you know.

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Speaker 1: And this is such a unique The whole thing is

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Speaker 1: incredibly unique, right, I mean, even the fact that we

526
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Speaker 1: all found out how much NFL teams make with the

527
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: revenue share was because of the packer, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The rest of the owners hate the fact that the

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Speaker 5: packers have to disclose that the revenue sharing was.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred and whatever there was this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but the publicly owned the bizarre thing

532
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Speaker 5: that I tried to explain to people, and I still

533
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Speaker 5: can't understand it.

534
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Speaker 2: My dad was in the financial business.

535
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Speaker 1: And there's no money, yes, and you buy a Shriff's dock,

536
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Speaker 1: you get nothing. They're buying they're buying up all the

537
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Speaker 1: lane there. But it's technically a nonprofit like is it

538
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Speaker 1: a nonprofit or not for profit?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 1: I'm a sports No where does all the money. It's

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Speaker 1: a great, it's a great but like somewhere there's well

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Speaker 1: they also they REDI they keep redoing the stadium.

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Speaker 5: Is and I mean I go to other training camps

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Speaker 5: and other stadiums and this is this is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: No, They've done an amazing job, an amazing job. But

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is they feel like they

547
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Speaker 1: have to do it because it's always hard to land

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Speaker 1: free agents here.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't doesn't work in the market. You know, it's

551
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Speaker 1: not a place a destination place.

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Speaker 5: I will push back on like all the guys like

553
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Speaker 5: Nate Hobbs they signed from the Raiders, and you know,

554
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Speaker 5: we ask him what he thinks the Green Bay goes, well,

555
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Speaker 5: there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: To do here. Well, there's plenty to do here. I

557
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Speaker 2: do push back on that a little bit there.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's also like, okay, first of all, when you're

559
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Speaker 1: in an NFL season, what do you have time for? Right?

560
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Speaker 2: And then you don't live here in the off season anyway.

561
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Speaker 1: And and by the way, if you are here, but

562
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Speaker 1: if you're here in the off season, here in the summer,

563
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Speaker 1: it's beautiful, it's amazing, you know. Now it might not

564
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Speaker 1: He might not play golf, right, he might not want

565
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Speaker 1: to be on the water. He might not fish. If

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Speaker 1: you don't those those things, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: Well then you take a limo to Milwaukee like fire

568
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Speaker 5: from Frankie Winners and Mark Schimurr and all those guys

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Speaker 5: used to do every Monday night before their day off

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Speaker 5: on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Well, I get, I can't comment on that.

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Speaker 2: I have heard.

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Speaker 1: I have heard that, have heard the stories. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, like I always, we use that as

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Speaker 1: the if you say there's nothing to do, you're not looking,

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Speaker 1: this is not your place. Yeah, you know, we got

577
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Speaker 1: three gyms, we got a weight room, yep, And what

578
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Speaker 1: are you here for?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's like you're one of your predecessors. Todd k

580
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Speaker 5: Walchak would always ask players do you play golf? And

581
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Speaker 5: if they said yes, he goes, you're not coming. I

582
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Speaker 5: don't watch you.

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Speaker 1: I got my guys play golf. I liking to play

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Speaker 1: golf because they play with the donors and the donors well.

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Speaker 5: That's well, that's There was one kid that they had

586
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Speaker 5: as a walk on. This is twenty years ago. He

587
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Speaker 5: was a pretty good player, really could shoot it from

588
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Speaker 5: Sturgeon Bay. Actually went to like Minnesota Duluth and then

589
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: came here and could really shoot it. And coach Kawalchak said,

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Speaker 5: if you put your golf clubs in my basement this

591
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Speaker 5: summer and just go in the gym and and really

592
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Speaker 5: get out after it, I'll give you a scholarship. And

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Speaker 5: he goes, no, I'll just I'll just stay as a

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Speaker 5: walk on. I had my ill the guys at golf

595
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Speaker 5: throw up in Door County right there you go, So

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Speaker 5: I had play for Mark Murphy. I had a kid,

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Speaker 5: Ryan Wade, last year, six year senior, played for three

598
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Speaker 5: coaches and he had him work out at Green Bay

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Speaker 5: Country Club and someone to make extra money because he's

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Speaker 5: a walk on. But you know, we had donors take

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Speaker 5: him out like a kid loves to play golf, Like,

602
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Speaker 5: go play golf with him, it's great. And one of

603
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Speaker 5: them led him having a job selling pharmaceuticals. That's what

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00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: it's all about, you know.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I hear guys go there's nothing to do,

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Speaker 1: like did you come here to play football? Did you

607
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: come here to hang out? Right? Which which is it?

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Speaker 5: And those aren't you know, those are the kind of

609
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Speaker 5: guys that makes you tell if you want those guys

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 1: Right, speaking of golf buyers, looking for somebody in his

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Speaker 1: in his foursome. What's the date on that twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: of August.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll be back. Yeah, that's the we're at.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can set him up in a night if

616
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Speaker 1: you want to play, I gotta I got an Elite

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Speaker 1: camp that that day.

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Speaker 5: I've only played Dan fifty four rounds this year, so

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Speaker 5: I feel like I got to get This is the

620
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Speaker 5: first year my kids haven't had AAU.

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Speaker 2: Basketball and like, yeah, it's the best.

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Speaker 5: I've played more golf this year than I have in

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Speaker 5: the last like three suppers combined.

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Speaker 7: I play less golf in California because you can always

625
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Speaker 7: play tomorrow and in Wisconsin you can't.

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Speaker 1: And yes, agreed, Rob, you're the best man. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: stop by. It's great to see Rob DeMoss. He's got

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Speaker 1: two shooters in the family. He's joined us here on

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Speaker 1: inside lambeau Field when the Packers score a touchdown. Why

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Speaker 1: would that be pertinent information? Why would the great Iowa

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Speaker 1: It's funny. Once you said you would come on today

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Speaker 1: after Packers practice Doug out Leap Show live here at

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Speaker 1: dead at grabya Packers training camp. I started to go, like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I've been. I've had Aaron on for like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a decade.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we just saying to your buddy there, we've been.

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Speaker 6: I used to come to your studio in New York.

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Speaker 1: think the first time I had you on might have

655
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Speaker 1: been ESPN right at the end, and then CBS and

656
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: now in the Fox and forever you were like, hey,

657
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: come out and and I was like, oh, get there.

658
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I went to seven games last year. I was like,

659
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I like season tickets with that. Ever, that was great,

660
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: it was, it was awesome, and it's it's interesting there's

661
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: such a like Kansas City kind of a college spirit,

662
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: especially in the Lower Bowl and different places you sit

663
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: in Lambeau is a different.

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Speaker 6: Experience, especially if you go to the South End zone

665
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 6: with some of the newer seats. It's a very different

666
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 6: vibe than what you're talking about. Right, Like down in

667
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 6: the old School Bowl, no bleach, Like it's just bleachers

668
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Speaker 6: everybody's but everybody's really into the ger in fairness.

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Speaker 1: When I sat in Lower Bowl, it was the Texans game,

670
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Speaker 1: which is a great, great game. Weather was good, game

671
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: was good, crowd is amazing. The cold weather games. I

672
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: did sit in the club section and and everybody's like, so,

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Speaker 1: what's the club section? So it's indoors. No, but you

674
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Speaker 1: can go walk indoors.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to get.

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Speaker 6: Indoors, walk into doors the club seats.

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Speaker 1: But the other part that I didn't know, I didn't

678
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: know everybody has these electric fests.

679
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Speaker 6: Although that's all the rage now, Oh my gosh, that's

680
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: amazing and they are fantastic. Guy in California makes them.

681
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Speaker 6: They're phenomenal. It's so good.

682
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Speaker 1: It is so I got all all kinds of the

683
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Speaker 1: tricks all right this year, Like I hate the super

684
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Speaker 1: Bowl or bust, but it does feel like maybe not

685
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl bus, but man, you gotta be right there.

686
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Speaker 6: And it's the expectation. It's certainly the expectation.

687
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Speaker 1: And that's not unrealistic, right at all.

688
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Speaker 6: I mean, here's the trick and when I'm fascinated to

689
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 6: find out kind of how they get there, if they

690
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: get there, they're very clearly and you know this, you've

691
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: watched the Packers operate for a long time. They're very

692
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 6: clearly all in on draft and developed to the point

693
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 6: where they know they need at least two or three

694
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Speaker 6: guys internally to become maybe not superstars, but field tilters,

695
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: guys who make our difference makers. Right. I think we

696
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 6: saw glimpses of that last year with say Edrin Cooper,

697
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 6: the linebacker. You know, guys who the town's clearly there,

698
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 6: they've got a blossom. And whether you're talking about Matthew

699
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 6: Golden who's started camp on fire, or a guy like

700
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Speaker 6: Cooper like they need a handful of these guys to

701
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Speaker 6: become difference makers if they want to truly challenge for

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Speaker 6: a championship.

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Speaker 1: Can the pressure the passer?

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Speaker 6: I think it's looking better so far. Now it's only

705
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Speaker 6: two days.

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Speaker 1: That was dipping your toes, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, they didn't really take any big swings

708
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: as far as augmenting the actual personnel. I know they

709
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Speaker 6: have a new defensive line coach, new I guess approach up.

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Speaker 1: Front, but which is what by that year we're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna find out? Like that's that's the kind of thing.

712
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Speaker 6: That's why I come to camp, right it is, Like

713
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Speaker 6: I will say, Lucas van Ness has been a disappointment

714
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: two years into his pro career, but this start of

715
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Speaker 6: camp he has been the trademark, you know, quietly having

716
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Speaker 6: a good start to camp. You never want to say

717
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: that because inevitably then they kind of fall off the map,

718
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 6: or they get hur disappointed, they get hurt whatever. But

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Speaker 6: he I tell you what he had to play today

720
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Speaker 6: where he beat Rashid Walker in a way that he

721
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Speaker 6: was not doing two years ago or even last year.

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Speaker 6: And then he had another where he's in the backfield

723
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Speaker 6: slipped an attempted block, and they had Dobs on an

724
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: attempted end around. He grabbed him with one hand and

725
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: threw him on the ground, Like that's the kind of

726
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: thing you expected when you took him thirteenth overall, So

727
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Speaker 6: hopefully Green shoots there.

728
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Speaker 1: Finally, can they run the football?

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's any doubt they're gonna continue to

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Speaker 6: run the ball. I would love to see them maybe

731
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Speaker 6: ease off on running the ball a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 6: last year they were in the league leaders I think

733
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Speaker 6: top five as far as running the ball on first down.

734
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Speaker 6: Now you look at that top five, it's all teams

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Speaker 6: that were really successful. I understand, you know why Matt

736
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: leaned into it specifically with Josh Jacobs. He's outstanding, right,

737
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Speaker 6: But you know when Bill Wolf said famously, the best

738
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Speaker 6: down to throw the ball and is on first down.

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Speaker 6: I would like to see, you know, the floor, let

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Speaker 6: love go to the air a little bit more on

741
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Speaker 6: first down. But yeah, they're gonna run the ball and

742
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Speaker 6: they're gonna be really effective.

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Speaker 1: Aeronegla my guest. He's the co founder and founder of

744
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Speaker 1: a Cheesehead TV. Check him out on all social media,

745
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Speaker 1: follow him, watch him on YouTube as well. He joins,

746
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Speaker 1: this the Doug Out Leap Show where live at Packers

747
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: camp here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I ask about Josh

748
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Speaker 1: Jacobs because I'm trying to figure out what was missing

749
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Speaker 1: that they didn't want to give him the long term

750
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Speaker 1: deal with the Raiders. Great, remember the Lakers Raiders were

751
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: in turmoil. They had question Okay, it's the Raiders, but

752
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, like the SAQ one thing with the Giants

753
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: was the same thing with all these guys. It wasn't

754
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Speaker 1: they didn't want to give them a year or even

755
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Speaker 1: two years. It was they didn't want to give him

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Speaker 1: three three guarantees. They want to give him three guarantees

757
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: because guys always break down, especially after.

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Speaker 6: A and that you talk about Jacobs specifically, that was

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00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 6: the issue with the Raiders because he came off that

760
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 6: season where he led the league in rushing, and then

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 6: that final year with the Raiders. Now he didn't have

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Speaker 6: a whole lot to work with upfront.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what not just that, but they were

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Speaker 1: always behind you run the football.

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Speaker 6: But he wasn't as effective. He certainly had a down

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Speaker 6: quote unquote year. But man, the Packers essentially swooped in

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Speaker 6: and made that change from Aaron Jones to Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 6: and I contend they got better.

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Speaker 1: They got but I don't think they got better catching

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Speaker 1: it out of the backfield. Aaron Jones is better at that.

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Speaker 1: They don't utilize him like I got it, But they

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Speaker 1: definitely got better in between the.

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Speaker 6: Runs, certainly. But yeah, he will be he will continue

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Speaker 6: to be a focal point of the offense. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then you have then you have Jordan Love you

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Speaker 1: do right who they supplied with a wide receiver who,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts is living up to anyone's expected.

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 1: You can't say he doesn't have the experience anymore. Nope,

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00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: can't say he's young anymore.

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Speaker 6: Nope.

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Speaker 1: It's not a new system. He's been the system for years.

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Speaker 6: He knows that system probably better than anybody in that

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Speaker 6: building except for Lafloor.

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Speaker 1: Do we know what he's like under this type of pressure?

786
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Speaker 1: And when I say pressure, I'm not talking about defensive pressure,

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Speaker 1: just the overall like, hey, dude, we love yet it's.

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Speaker 6: Time to carry the team, but it's time. It's interesting

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Speaker 6: because I do think Brian Gudicunst has very specifically tried

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Speaker 6: to change course in the sense that you know, four

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Speaker 6: thirty years here in Green Bay, it has been about

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Speaker 6: the quarterback and all about the quarterback, and the quarterback

793
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Speaker 6: had to make things go and if he didn't, they

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 6: weren't winning games. Right. I think Brian is very intentionally

795
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 6: tried to create a team that doesn't need the quarterback

796
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: to be superman. But that said, it's still the NFL

797
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: is still twenty twenty five, and it still comes down

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Speaker 6: to quarterback play. And you know, yes, he had some

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Speaker 6: issues at wide receiver last year. They were in the

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Speaker 6: top of the league and drops, but certainly I think

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Speaker 6: Jordan would admit, you know, the injury certainly affected him

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Speaker 6: and he wasn't nearly as efficient as you'd like him

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Speaker 6: to be. But I'll tell you what here at start

804
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 6: of camp, he's fully healthy there from day one on

805
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: Lake last year, and to my eyes, he looks ready

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 6: to go, like he's certainly like you said, there's no

807
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: excuse as far as the weapons go, he's they've got

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Speaker 6: talent everywhere, and he looks in full command of the offense.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's zero doubt that you talk about. There

810
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 6: was a play today where Musgrave's going over the middle

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Speaker 6: and he sat down. He was clearly supposed to keep going,

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Speaker 6: and you know, Jordan gave him a little not a

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00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 6: talking to, but certainly connected after the play and is like, look,

814
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: this is the coverage and you got to keep going.

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Speaker 6: Like he's in command, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 6: I don't think Luke Mus text Luke and to ask him. Yeah, yeah,

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00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 6: he'll say Jordan, Jordan gave one of these. You gotta

818
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 6: be seeing what I see, you know. But yeah, there's

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Speaker 6: no doubt that this is Jordan's year, Like this is

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Speaker 6: the year he this is undoubtedly has to kind of

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Speaker 6: lead this team to at least championship contention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me if this makes sense. It's like again

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Speaker 1: as a college but it's like I got a junior okay,

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Speaker 1: but his freshman year where when you're a young starting

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00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: quarterback and you're replacing Aaron Rodgers, like you do anything

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Speaker 1: well or like, oh my gosh, he's not terrible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah thought it was going to back to the stone Age.

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Speaker 1: And then he's like pretty good, you give him a

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Speaker 1: new contract. And then last year there are times which

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Speaker 1: you spectatia times like what are you doing? And then

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Speaker 1: you're like, well, okay, he's only again using using the

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Speaker 1: college noalogy only a sophomore.

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Speaker 6: He got spoiled with Rogers. There's zero doubt. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 6: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: YEA Well, it's like no one remembers like Farv.

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Speaker 6: Coming up, thank you. I banged that drum all last

837
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 6: season because people were, you know, some of the he did.

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 6: He threw some boneheaded interceptions. But I'm like, does it

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Speaker 6: any would remember Farve second year as a starter Homegrod

840
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 6: almost pulled him for God's sake, you know. So it's

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Speaker 6: just I know we're in this age, this TikTok age

842
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 6: where everything is instant and gotta be now. But man,

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00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 6: just a little breathing, a little patience, and like I said,

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Speaker 6: I think this year is when it starts to pay off.

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Speaker 1: With Jordan Love October twenty sixth Hell, yeah, now you've

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: lived this in a previous life, right when Farv came

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Speaker 1: back exactly now, Aaron's not coming back. Nope, it's in Pittsburgh.

848
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Speaker 6: Was really pulling for him to sign with the Vikings

849
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Speaker 6: for that very reason.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it would have been so amazing. It's been so

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Speaker 1: it would have been so good amazing. Are you going

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Speaker 1: to the game.

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Speaker 6: I'm not. We're we do a YouTube watch party each

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Speaker 6: and every game, and.

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: So the almighty dollars is going to keep you.

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Speaker 6: I got it, man, I have an audience, so there

857
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 6: there are expectations. You could zoom into the audience, but

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Speaker 6: be you know whatever that I will say, I don't

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Speaker 6: know what they call what they call it now, by

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Speaker 6: the way, I know I always call it three Verus Stadium.

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Speaker 6: I know it's that.

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Speaker 1: It was for a while, but then heinz.

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Speaker 6: No, it's Azure or something or other. I can't remember now,

864
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 6: but I still call it three Rivers because that's you know,

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Speaker 6: you go there and that's the vibe, like it's so

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Speaker 6: cool on Rivers again. And so I've lived here for

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Speaker 6: a calendar year. Nice I could tell you the people

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Speaker 6: that I come into contact with it is still very

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Speaker 6: mixed on erin right.

870
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Most of it is it was just time, just like yeah.

871
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: I mean, when it comes to the football stuff, a

872
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 6: billion percent, it was absolutely time. It was probably time

873
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: the year before. But I do think there was some

874
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 6: internal struggle there and they certainly, you know, wanted to

875
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 6: keep them around for another year while Jordan got more

876
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: kind of developed. But yeah, I mean, it's just I

877
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: don't want to say, it was like pulling a band

878
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 6: aid off, but it was absolutely time to turn the page,

879
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 6: like there's it. And that's that feeling around the fandom too.

880
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 6: I talk about this a lot on CHIESAIDV, where for

881
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 6: so long they were kind of banging their heads against

882
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: the wall or just holding on with their fingertips to

883
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: the attempt to get back to the super Bowl with Erin,

884
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 6: and came very close in twenty twenty. But man, those

885
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 6: last two or three year it was just like everything

886
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 6: was a struggle to just try and try and you

887
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 6: could just never close the deal. It was such a

888
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 6: breath of fresh air to move on, to turn the page.

889
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: And I think it was good for Aaron too. I

890
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 6: don't think, you know, he really had much more to prove,

891
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 6: and he knows how the packers operate because he went

892
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 6: through it with bread.

893
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: You just shouldn't shows the jets. Well, it's just one

894
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: of those like that was like one it does. It

895
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: draws the instant far of comparisons obviously.

896
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: I mean, how amazing was that?

897
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: It was amazing.

898
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 6: I'm waiting he was thinking about that and then he

899
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 6: want to go to the vikings, like what is going

900
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: on here? It's like an episode of Black Mirror.

901
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: It was what's black Mirrors?

902
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 6: That is it's a great show Mirror.

903
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys know Black Mirror? I don't as anybody

904
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: Sam Jay Steele. Are you guys familiar with Black Black Mirror?

905
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 6: Yep, I've seen one episode. It's very good. That one

906
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: episode is very good. That one episode he saw it

907
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: was great.

908
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: How many seasons, God, there's like eight or not? Like

909
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: sound it must be really good if it's last that phenomenal.

910
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 6: But it sounds like an episode so like I have

911
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 6: as preposition to watch it, but I'm I love it.

912
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: It's great.

913
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: The division, Yes, Bears actually might have hired somebody decently.

914
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 6: They finally figured it out.

915
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: Although I don't know quarterback like i've.

916
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 6: Been, Caleb Williams is going to be really good. And

917
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 6: I know all the headlines coming out of Chicago as

918
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 6: a how he's struggling early. He's learned in a new

919
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: system like that. If there's new offensive linemen like he'll

920
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 6: he's talented as hell. He's gonna figure it out and

921
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 6: he's going to be good.

922
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Unfortunate vikings you it feels like that guy can coach

923
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: any quarterback. But now you have a rookie quarterback coach,

924
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: great coach, but but he does coach a quarterback who

925
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: did not throw the football once in the second half

926
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: against Penn State.

927
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: Like I think J. J.

928
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: McCarthy's good. But if he's that good, like, wouldn't she

929
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: let him throw the ball?

930
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: Well State? And now he's sat out of football for

931
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 6: a year? You know, it's like he's It's that situation

932
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 6: in particular is such a wild card because I do

933
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: think they're clearly very talented and they have all the

934
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 6: horses they need if the quarterback can produce, you.

935
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and then you have Detroit, who has you know,

936
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: come from nowhere to being a super Bowl right, but

937
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: they did lose a lot and they lost their coordinators,

938
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: and you know, it'll be interesting to see what that looks.

939
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 6: I love that the Packers are opening up with them

940
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 6: week one. First time Matt's been able to open at home,

941
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 6: which is kind of wild to think about. It's a

942
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 6: first home opener under LA floor, like season opener at Lambeau.

943
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: It's such a we we mentioned it, and I remember

944
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: we did some on the podcast as well. Doug Gottlieb

945
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: show Fox Sports for av Nagular joined me chie s

946
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Head TV. There's there's two things about lambeau Field. Again,

947
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't profess to be an expert.

948
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 6: You are an expert.

949
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: That two things that I think people don't know. It's

950
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: so far is this way, believe it or not, it's

951
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: this way. And that where you sit is a completely different.

952
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 6: Experience, absolutely true.

953
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: You know, if you sit in the lower bowl, you're

954
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: in it. There's no cell phones out, there's no selfies,

955
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: there's no nothing. It's about the game and nothing else.

956
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: And when and you better high five that dude next

957
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, and then it is a communal expression.

958
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: And then okay, and but the other part is what

959
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: time of year you go to a game. It's a

960
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: completely different vibe too. I went to the Colts game,

961
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: which was the opener last year, and it was like

962
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: eighty three. Well, I mean for eighty.

963
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 6: Three Green Bay, Wisconsin.

964
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: It was hot.

965
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: It was it was hot, and people were like falling out. Uh.

966
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Then you go Christmas time when you're playing the Saints

967
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: and you better be better be bundled. It may change. Okay,

968
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: So how does early season against the Lions set that

969
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: whole tone for the season.

970
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 6: Well, what's interesting about that? Matchup is how well Dan

971
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 6: Campbell's squad has done against Matt Lafleur's team, no matter

972
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: what the personnel is. I mean Rogers last game where

973
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: all they got to do is win that game get

974
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, and they can't do it. Campbell has

975
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 6: been a thorn in Matt's side. And outside of I

976
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: want to say that Thanksgiving game where they've took the

977
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 6: deep shot to Watson first play the game and they

978
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 6: end up winning that one. Outside of that game, Campbell's

979
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: had his number. So I think for Matt there's probably

980
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 6: a very real sense of I not only have to

981
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: get off on the right foot it's a divisional game

982
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: home opener, but man, Dan Campbell has been the bully.

983
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 6: He's got to turn that around. Start And that's great

984
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 6: that that's the challenge week one.

985
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: All right, give me one Green Bay Packer that unless

986
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: you've come to camp, you don't know how excited you

987
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: should be about this player.

988
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: Oh man, there are a couple guys. I'll go with

989
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 6: n Zero Stackhouse, who's an undrafted defensive tackle out of Georgia.

990
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: He has been outstanding all every practice I've watched, I

991
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 6: mean from the start with the unpadded stuff to now

992
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 6: the pads are on the last couple of days, he

993
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: had what would have been two big sacks today. He

994
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 6: was stuffing everything at the line of scrimmage yesterday. I

995
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: mean for a team that lost, you know, a couple

996
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: of the component components in their run defense last year,

997
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 6: you get an undress a kid who looks this good, uh,

998
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: and the zero stackhouse looks like the real deal, And

999
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 6: I expect he'll a good chance he'll make the fifty

1000
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 6: three and he'll contribute.

1001
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: I think the most important information you can share. I

1002
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: can because I can give my Hey, if I'm coming

1003
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: to town for a Packer game, because it is it's

1004
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: kind of a national landmark. You do, you'll sit there, Well,

1005
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: you'll be at a game and you're like, wait, I'm

1006
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: at Lanbowfield. But there'll also be somebody from LA someone

1007
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: from New York, somebody from overseas list. You know a

1008
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, I gotta go to a

1009
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: Packer game. If you were setting up somebody's itinerary, because

1010
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll take mine, would be I would stay here Legacy hotel.

1011
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 6: Hotel can't go wrong here.

1012
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: Right totally?

1013
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 6: Uh?

1014
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: And six floor you come up to the crest. I

1015
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: think it's like the best view bar Saturday night for

1016
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: a game. Where would you send somebody to eat and

1017
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: to hang and to drink when they're in uh when

1018
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: when they're in the Green.

1019
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: Bay, Wisconsin for a game. I will plug the YouTube

1020
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 6: channel and say make sure you check out Aaron Negler's

1021
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: top five things to do in Green Bay. As a

1022
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 6: friend of mine pointed out, most of it is just bars.

1023
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 6: So you know, the drunkest town in America, right, it

1024
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 6: is always one of them, no doubt about it. But

1025
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 6: I will say I love all the old school stuff

1026
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 6: like Nicky's Lions Lion's Head. Into Peer is like a

1027
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 6: spot where like the packers in Lombardes era used to

1028
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 6: go and have a few after practice, right. I love

1029
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 6: that vibe. The place like that is awesome to peer For.

1030
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: People who not from green Bay, it's like the southern

1031
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: south eastern most suburbs sort.

1032
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: Of of green Bay, kind of attached.

1033
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: There's like a loop of freeways that surround the inner

1034
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: part of the city and then the outer the outer

1035
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: rim the south eastern side is up here ahead.

1036
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: Yep.

1037
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 6: I love that spot. There's a restaurant you're talking about eating.

1038
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 6: There's a restaurant north north north part of town that's

1039
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 6: called Blue. That Corey Banking, my co founder.

1040
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: That's not north, that's south.

1041
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 6: Is it south?

1042
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in Bellevue where, yes, I that was that's

1043
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: my too.

1044
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: I love that.

1045
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 6: Corey took me there, and it's phenomenal.

1046
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: It's really it's really good.

1047
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 6: Coming from New York, I'm like, all right, Nor restaurant stand.

1048
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's really good, really good. And you

1049
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: don't know you're in Green Bay.

1050
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 6: Not really because it's outside enough that like.

1051
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Well it's it's like it's like built in like almost

1052
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: like a colonial type, almost a colonial house. And then

1053
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: you walk in sall wooded.

1054
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 6: I will say, though this is true. When we went

1055
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: there a couple of years ago, I was, you know,

1056
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: I get so conscious about what I'm wearing out and

1057
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 6: about like, you know, I'm out in New York. I'm like,

1058
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 6: if I go out to eat, if I go out

1059
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 6: to eat, I want to look nice. So we're a

1060
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 6: collared shirt blah blah blah. And so I brought all

1061
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 6: these clothes when I came to visit it, and we're

1062
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 6: going to Blue. It's this nice restaurant. Oh yeah, okay,

1063
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: So I wear the stuff and Corey is like, what

1064
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 6: are you doing? I'm like, I gotta look nice.

1065
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1066
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: We roll up.

1067
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: Guy in front of us making like asking for a

1068
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: table is wearing a Megadeth T shirt. I'm like, yep,

1069
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 6: I'm back in Wisconsin.

1070
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Yes, and he probably owns like probably something as well, right,

1071
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: and he's got a Mega shirt.

1072
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: Getting that spotted.

1073
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got a bar, we got a restaurant,

1074
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: late night bar or or late night music.

1075
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 6: You know. And I'm in Green Bay. I'm not as

1076
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: juiced in as I used to be. I will say though,

1077
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 6: I will always look to see if hang ten is playing.

1078
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 6: They're a local band that is phenomenal, Hang ten and

1079
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: they just had a singles release just came out this

1080
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 6: past Friday. Hang ten local band. They're awesome.

1081
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: OKAYD did not know that, but be on the lookout

1082
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: training can't content.

1083
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right before I came over here.

1084
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's good and you have top five things to do.

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Speaker 1: He's Aaron Agler. He's we've we've been friends forever, but

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Speaker 1: yard right that makes complete sense,