1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't get any better than this. Welcome in another 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: beautiful Fox Football Sunday, the last Sunday. No, you're not 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: changing your clocks yet, but the name change of the 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: show because it'll just I think, become, you know, just 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: a regular sports Sunday show once again. But today it 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: is a super Sunday broadcasting live from the tire rack 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: dot com studios. 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From our technical producer 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Mark to Shay over in the executive producer chair, the 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: big voice of Steve de Sega, reminding you of all 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: the good, bad and ugly going on in our sporting universe. 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: To my guy Bud Key Brooks over there at Bucky Brooks, 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: Andy Furman, a legend at Andy Fourman FSR, and your 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: humble leader of this ragtag group of mysfits ready to 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: take over the world. High on Mike Carmon, thanks for 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: being with us. Another super Sunday gentleman. Every year, I 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: pinched myself a little bit. All right, I don't sleep 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: really very well on these days, right because the gravitas. 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: What are you gonna wear? 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: Well? 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: I did my usual. It's the Bear's pullover, some Travis 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: Matthews shoes and a knit cap. But you know what, 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not here for the fashion. I'm here for the football. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: The conversation, had the fun and the revelry begins with 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: us this morning. Guys, it's good to be with you 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: so far. Are You're getting into a good lather here 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: breaking down the matchup and kind of go. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: Quick question, if I may, I heard Steve the Sega 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: top of the hour with the sports update. 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: I was wondering if any one of you guys ever 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: had groin tightness, because you said Anthony Davis had groin tightness. 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean you've had growin tightened. I just 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: bucky I you had groin tightness. 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can pull it. 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: Look like I got it right now. That's why I'm 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: saying that I have groin tightening. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 5: The inactivity just looked like he he made a sudden 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 5: movement too fast. It's almost like pulling the hamstring. And 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: so immediately when he clutched the inside of his I 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: was like, oh, yeah, that's that's bad. 47 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: Right, he already had an abdominal injury that he was 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: that he was dealing with, missed five games. 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, over compensating for it, because it's all tied together. 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: When not to do an anatomy class, but when you 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: look at like the hip flexus and all those muscles, 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: how they wrap around to the lower abs. Deficient in 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: one area leads to a problem in another area. 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: I want to hold Bucky bros Scotts so smart. No, 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: he's a tremendous athlete, play in the NFL for five years, 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: he's a writer, he's a scout, he's a personnel guy. 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: He's on TV's on radio, and he knows anatomy. I mean, 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: come on, you know when God gave out the brains, 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: he left me out and gave Bucket Brook's mind. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: Real. 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: I mean, really, that's what it is. It's not fair. 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: It's okay, I'm jealous. 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean Bucky has an elite athlete as well, 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: something we didn't have at our disposal, and he necessarily 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: unless you wanted to harass your friends and family at 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: parties where I mean, he was going to the trainer 68 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: all the time, right, not necessarily because he was hurt, 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: but he's getting some pt, getting some you know, checkups 70 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: week to week, right, and maybe he just decided to 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: ask questions, Hey, why is that guy on that rack 72 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: over there? What's going on? And why is he screaming? 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: Those are questions you and I in a day to 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: day life. I mean, Mark Ramsey may sprain his finger 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: going to the board, but otherwise, you know, physically he's 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: standing in one spy. I think he's gonna be okay. 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: There's not really a lot of sudden movement he's got 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: to do. Whereas with Bucky, I mean, he's got guys 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: flying at him. He's got guys that were trying to tackle. 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: I don't know the equivalent of today is Derrick Henry 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: or Saquon Barkley, Right, I mean you know that, do 82 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: you How many times do we see guys make business 83 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: decisions Bucky Brooks when those guys are coming down the pipeline. 84 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: I make a lot of them. You know, it's a 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: hard deal that you have to do with the physicality toughness, 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: the size everybody's not built for. Everyone thinks they're ready 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: until they have to be ready. 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Now, I want to start this show by thanking a 89 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: very unlikely group of people. We're gonna see if we 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: can get Andy latherd. 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: Up a little bit with this one. Oh. 92 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: The last note in Steve De Sager's Top of the 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: Hour update talked about Mark Williams and the trade for 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: Dalton Connect being rescinded. I would like to thank the 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: NBA for the week of greatness that was leading to 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, giving us superstars actually being dealt and 97 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: myriad superstars where we were questioning is he going to 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: be mad? Can he go play there? Is he going 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 2: to decide? Okay, that's okay, I'll go there. Last minute, 100 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's name was mentioned after the Luca Donches trade 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: last Saturday. Right that comes down Saturday night. Everybody immediately 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: was like, ooh, Lebron is that and that means like 103 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: all the shift happens now, And then he talked about 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: how happy he was and and no trade clause. I 105 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: would waive it if I wanted to go, by the way. 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: I do also love the Delicious Theater of ESPN moving 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: around a bunch of programming for the Laker game. Now, 108 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: they got forty five points from Austin Reeves, but they 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: didn't get Luca or and they didn't get Lebron as expected. 110 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: So kind of a laugh for there. But it saved 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: me from a week of an a chatter about legacy 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: and goat talk. So thank you, NBA, thank you very much. 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: Having with so many. 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: Names, three names were evolved in the whole week. Jimmy Butler, 115 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Luca and Ad. That was it. 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: That was it? 117 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Right? What else? 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: Darren Fox goes to San Antonio. 119 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: The fifth The guy's failed at the seventh fourth. 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: No, that's fine, that happened, But that happened on a 121 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: Saturday night, Right, that didn't happen Monday through Friday, when 122 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: I gotta fill four hours talking about the greatness that 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: is the sporting world, and I gotta listed all these 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: Laker haunts all over the place. This guy's gonna be 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: the greatest thing you've ever seen as a center when 126 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: he's on the court. Yeah, and then he fails to 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: physical so he goes back and you know that gets rescinded. 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: Whatever else? No, No, No, it was great because it 129 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: gave us an extra flavor on top of the festivities 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: in New Orleans. 131 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a big, big gap between. 132 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: NFL talk, super Bowl talk, and the NBA so called trades. 133 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Really it was weak. 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Well what you did? Then tell me the written then 135 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: riddle me this. Then what was the big story from 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: super Bowl Week? 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: Then, dude, doesn't have to be a big story. It's 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: the game itself, that's the story. 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: Well, we already had a week of that before everybody 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: showed up in New Orleans. 141 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, am I wrong? You're right? It's always 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: been that way, right, But so. 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: For a week we talked about the ramifications of the trade. 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, who was reduced to a bum. He was 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: like a prelim guy at the beginning of a WWE 146 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: card that goes out and loses eighteen seconds. The way 147 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: everybody talked about him on his way out the door. 148 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: They didn't get anything for Luca, Like you were just 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: telling me a week ago, this guy's the top ten 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: player in the game. You're telling me how great he is, 151 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: and then you're dismissing you know, and the same. 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: Thing is and you'll agree between today and the playoffs, 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: No one's going to talk about the NBA until playoffs start. 154 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: There's the way it is. Well. 155 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: But for the NBA, it's also a brilliant week because 156 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: for a week we didn't talk about how bad the 157 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: product was. 158 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 159 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: They got away from that for a week. 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it has been bad. And you know, I'm 161 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: still waiting to hear from Adam Silver. I guess you 162 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: heard what I did because they were all complaining about 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: too many threes and I said this should be a 164 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: designated three point. 165 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we talked about that last week. 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: He never wrote me back. I'm waiting he. 167 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Well and on his to a day and either either 168 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: you're getting a library built or you're gonna get a 169 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: cease and desist. Either way you get something to hang 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: on the wall or a lawsuit. Nah, now you'll get 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: a cease and desist. First, they'll just print one of 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: those out one of the many lawyers there on Park Avenue. Actually, 173 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: I kind of would like to see that, Andy, That 174 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: would be really cool. There would be a feather in 175 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: the cat. 176 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: I think, I really, do you think somebody? 177 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 178 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: I think so? 179 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Is he gonna do it like the like Stan? Dear Andy, 180 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: I love you. But all right, we got M and 181 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: M into the show. While we're at it, I know, 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar, prop bets are everywhere. We got to do 183 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: have a little nugget for me and Rappaport this morning, fella. 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: It's a little little nfl H scuttle butt of the 185 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: possibility of the San Francisco forty nine ers potentially breaking 186 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: up with Deebo Samuel and sending him off into never 187 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: never Land. That's just interesting, right. 188 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: It's time to break up the forty nine ers. I guess, 189 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: well then't you think? 190 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: But just in general, right, the silly season has begun 191 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: a lot of shilling for product across radio row for 192 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: the week. But there's only two teams remaining. Everybody but 193 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: one team has filled their coaching vacancies. And we assume 194 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: that Kellen Moore has been predestined to be that guy, 195 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: for better or for worse. But he goes to he'll 196 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: go to that spot and we'll close that loop. But 197 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: right now, the other thirty teams are trying to figure 198 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: out what's next. 199 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: Well, I will say this, you talk about the forty 200 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: nine ers. I watched that Thursday night Awards show and 201 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: that was very very impressed with the speech that George 202 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: Kittle gave. 203 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was very very professional. I like what 204 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: he did. The man of the people that was big. 205 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't think he had it in him 206 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: to be honest. 207 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, he's one of those guys that he's a man. 208 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: He's the people's champ, right. He's again big wrestling guy 209 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: too for what it's worth. But one of those guys 210 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: that you know, immunity wise, you know me leading the 211 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: tight end university man, anytime you can get a position 212 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: group together, Buck, I think you could agree with this 213 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: if you can suddenly have everybody decide that this is 214 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: a must go to event to try to learn from 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: each other and actually be one of the leaders to 216 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: open the door to hear's some tricks of the trade 217 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: I've learned. Man, that doesn't happen very often. I mean, 218 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: think about our business. We get together and in the 219 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: entire time side I was waiting for a guy to 220 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: shive you. 221 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: But I will say this, you can go back and 222 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: say that you were happy that you had the NBA 223 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: deal to have somebody to talk about during the week, 224 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: the big conversation. 225 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: I think that trumped everything this week. 226 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: Was the Awards show and the fact that Lamar Jackson 227 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: I thought got screwed. 228 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: Well, when we got to Thursday, CM Barkley got screwed. 229 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: It was stupid. I mean, the whole thing was ridiculous. 230 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: I do appreciate. Now we really get into the wheelhouse, Bucky, 231 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: you're thinking about the Montreal screw job, aren't you. Yeah, 232 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Brad Hart, Michaels, everybody, Yeah, let's go to watch another 233 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: documentary before the kickoff and everything gets going on the 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Fox pregame. But no, I mean once we got to Thursday, 235 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: then sure all bets were off between the Hall of Fame, 236 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: Jason Cole's going to join Bucky and I next hour. 237 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: He's a voter, he's in the room where it happens. 238 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Gave us a little bit of insight the other night 239 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: joined Smith and I briefly. It's got to talk about 240 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: to change in the process. But the Hall of Fame, 241 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a couple of minutes here. 242 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: But from the award side of things, I'll ask this simply, 243 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: and I actually posted the grid up in the Twitter verse. 244 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: They're all offensive players, right, that win all these quarterback MVPs, 245 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: Yet year after year, they don't win Offensive Player of 246 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: the Year Saquon this year, Justin Jefferson in the past, 247 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup in the past, Derrick Henry in the past, 248 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: they didn't win MVP. So why are we all complaining 249 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: about it this year? Why are we all mad this year? 250 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think he had a tumand this year, But 251 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: I think we knew going in as a quarterback trophy. 252 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: That's basically is is a quarterback trophy. But again, you're 253 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 4: talking about the trophies that were handed out, And I 254 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: talked about this Bucky early on Joe Burrow Comeback of 255 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: the Year. I mean really, I mean it's silly. I 256 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: mean it just it doesn't make any sense some of 257 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: these awards that they give out. I just assume they 258 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: don't even have the awards to be honest. 259 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Ah, but what are we doing about him? 260 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: And I mean, Sam Donald's a Comeback Player of the Year, 261 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: not Joe Burrow. 262 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: It's all Abroad criterion, by their criterion, he wasn't available 263 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: like they had fifteen guys that voted for him. But 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: to your point, Bucky, what what did he really come 265 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: back from? 266 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 4: And Joe Borrow came back injury and the fact that 267 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: he passed for forty nine hundred yards. 268 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: I guess that's it. 269 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: I mean, but then we played ten games last year. 270 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: But he actually did honey years ago. 271 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: The guy who was laying on his couch in his 272 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: house and they're calling him back to play. But he 273 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: was a combat player of the year. When you come 274 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: back when no one expects you to do something, I 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: guess that's the comeback player. 276 00:12:59,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: Of the year. 277 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: When you come out of nowhere, as Sam Donald came 278 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: out of nowhere, he was on skid row with the Jets. 279 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: Well it's been a minute since he was on the Jets, 280 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: but well I do like that you drag the Jets. 281 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: I'll get some extra stuff in the mail for you 282 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: this week. Can't thank you, boy, Buggy. The comeback player 283 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: of the Year is one that drew some anks. I'm 284 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: just wondering if you know this wasn't a let's go 285 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: all biblical on a Sunday morning and if you're heading 286 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: to and from a service, say an extra one for us. 287 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: As I make this analogy, it's to split the baby 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 289 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: It was to split the baby kind of thing. And 290 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily like it because it didn't really make sense. 291 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense that the MVP is second team 292 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 5: All Pro. It doesn't make sense if you're saying the 293 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: MVP is the best player in the league, why would 294 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: it be second team on the All Pro list, which 295 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: recognizes the best of the best. And so in doing that, 296 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 5: it just created a situation where it does feel like 297 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: a participation trophy. It does feel like, oh, look at little, 298 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: poor little Josh. Let's get a little Joshi something to 299 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: go home with, you know. And so Joshi went to 300 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 5: the State Fair and came home with a Teddy Bear. 301 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: Let's get it. Because Lamar too. 302 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 5: Like yeah, and so to me, it's just not it's 303 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: not how it should be, like if you're going to 304 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: do it. And I understand the narrative, but I say, like, 305 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: we on our side, that's what we do. About the 306 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 5: middle of the season, we start talking about Josh MVP. 307 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: He has those two games on national TV, the Rams 308 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 5: and the Lions, respectively, where he puts up crazy numbers 309 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: and dominates two teams that were favored. But it just 310 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: kind of became this thing that a was gonna be 311 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: Josh's thing, and we couldn't necessarily use the numbers to 312 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: validate it, So then we had to talk about him 313 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: doing more with less. Even though Dean Dawkins is a 314 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: Pro Bowler and I know we don't really care about 315 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl, but that's the only way we can 316 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 5: recognize all stars in our sport. Dean Dawkins was the 317 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: only other Pro Bowlers that he played with, and so 318 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: when you make that argument that he did more with less, 319 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: you can squint and see. Because no one thought Khalilshakur 320 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: would come out. Cam Coleman was young, Daal Kin Kid 321 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 5: and Dawson Knox have not had the impact that we expected. 322 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: So it has to be Josh being a one man show. 323 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 5: And in a way he has been, but another way 324 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 5: he's just been kind of on the mark. But it 325 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: wasn't his best season. That's the thing I think does disappoint. 326 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: It wasn't the best season that we've seen from him, 327 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 5: yet he won it. 328 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, we going back to my Offensive 329 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Player of the Year discussion, right, if we're going to 330 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: do that, and we got to bring that into the mix. 331 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey had an All World last year, Lamar didn't. Right, 332 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: if we're going to do the statistical thing, shouldn't Christian 333 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: have won it last year, Well he didn't. Yeah, and 334 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: every year. Right, here's Barkley. You know, last offensive players 335 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: of the Year Ready Barkley, McCaffrey, Jefferson Cup, Henry, Michael Thomas. 336 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Last quarterback was twenty eighteen before that, Todd Gurley, Matt Ryan, 337 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: cam Newton, DeMarco Murray, Peyton Manning, go back, Adrian Peterson. 338 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: Then we get Breeze and Brady Chris Johnson. All I'm 339 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: saying is there's a bunch of running backs and wide 340 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: receivers that get their flowers there, but they're not eligible 341 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: for the MVP. So let's talk about what these awards 342 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: really are. And that's where for me. Look in the end, 343 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: you could have given it to all three guys if 344 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: you wanted to. I think from Philly, I would have said, 345 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: I'll send my vote in for the offensive line again, 346 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: again owing to the success guys like DeAndre Swift, Boston 347 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: Scott and others have had in that offense in the past. 348 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: No disrespect to Sakuon Barkley, but it's. 349 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: Got to be disrespectful compared to Scott the Boston. 350 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: But the point is no, no, obviously he's a much 351 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: better player but I'm saying Philadelphia has had success running 352 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: the football with a number of guys in the past, 353 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: and they've won a lot of games in the past. True, 354 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not wrong. And Lamar last year won 355 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: thirteen games, and you bring up and you bring in 356 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: Derek Henry and I know they're supposed to be individual years, 357 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: but we're human beings. And the hardest part for me 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: for the AP versus the MVP is that you've got 359 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: the same people voting, Like that's the hardest that's the 360 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: part that doesn't make sense, like if they're two different 361 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: electing bodies. But do we have a clear, clear definition 362 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: of what MVP really means? Bucky, No, No, we don't, right, 363 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: But that's the point. It's like, so you can say, Okay, statistically, 364 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: Lamar's better over here, say nothing about a five touchdown 365 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: game against a hapless Giants team, say nothing about another 366 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: five touchdown game here, like we're doing that with Josh Allen, 367 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: and suddenly just saying, well, those two games account for 368 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: a quarter of his push those to the side. It's like, no, no, 369 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: we can't pick and choose. 370 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: But not only did Lamar Jackson lose several votes in 371 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: the first place voting. 372 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: He got a fourth place vote. 373 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: Someone gave him a fourth place Well, somebody left off 374 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: the ballots, So I mean what I mean. 375 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: That's that's also crazy too though, because I'm glad they 376 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: put everybody on blast. That was Jim Miller, former quarterback 377 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: of the Bears, who instills put the Bears. 378 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: He yeah, Jims, Jim's got got some thoughts on worldview 379 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: and and all that, you know, kind of. 380 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 5: Fourth place that that come on like like what like 381 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 5: what are we doing? Like all of that stuff. 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: So there was that sounds to me like a personal thing. 383 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: Well, but that also is how much weight did he 384 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: put on? Because I mean, the first eight weeks of 385 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: the year, Bucket, we were talking a lot about Derreck 386 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: Henry as an MVP candidate, weren't we. 387 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Uh? 388 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: I mean we were, yeah, I mean like he was 389 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: up there, I mean looking at nineteen hundred yards. I 390 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 5: mean he certainly that that also can't qualify. But the 391 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 5: difference is Derrick Henry didn't get any MVP votes. Like 392 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: if we're gonna split the baby in terms of that, 393 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 5: and you're gonna say the Baltimore Ravens success was heavily 394 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: influenced by what Derrick Henry did, then Derrick Henry's name 395 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 5: should have popped up on ballast. It wasn't. And so 396 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 5: that's the thing. And I don't really have an issue 397 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: with Josh Allen winning. I just think these things have 398 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 5: become more media narrative and fodder then really recognition for 399 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: the greatness that people display on the field. We decided 400 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 5: middle of the season that Josh Allen deserves to be 401 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: the MVP. We started talking about him people, you know, 402 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 5: they repeat what they hear, they regurgitate what they hear 403 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: on telecast and those things, and so it became Josh 404 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: Allen should be MVP, even though his numbers didn't make 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: it like that, because there were a number of games 406 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: where we had less than two hundred yards passing and 407 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: then his touchdowns. I mean, if we're gonna be honest, 408 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 5: like he had a bunch of one and two yard touchdowns, 409 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: you know, like that's cool. I am recognizing that he 410 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: did a lot with a team that wasn't expected to 411 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 5: not only win the division, but wasn't expected to make 412 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: a run. He did that, and so I'm okay with 413 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 5: him getting it. I just think it's disingenuous to name 414 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: one person first team All Pro, but then that same 415 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: person is not aimed MVP when his backup on the 416 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: All Pro team is. It's just illogical. 417 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: And the stats this year we have been in the 418 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: two MVP years that he had at twenty nineteen and 419 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. Here's the major problem, not who won 420 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: the award, how they give the award. Because the MVP 421 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: award is voted on by fifty voters who were selected 422 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: by the Associated Press, But those same fifty voters vote 423 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: on the All Pro team. So if you want to 424 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: have two separate teams with two separate votes, have a 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: hundred people of fifty people on this board, have fifty 426 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: people on this board, you know, have the AP vote 427 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: for one and have the Pro Football ruters vote for 428 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: the other. That's all you gotta. Don't have to say 429 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: people voting for both. 430 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, and they split the baby. It's 431 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: like it's the all right, And you didn't need a 432 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: lot of people to flip, right. I mean it, as 433 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: much as you know, you look at point gathering and 434 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: everything for the All Pro versus the versus the MVP vote, 435 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: it only took you know, a handful of people to 436 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: flip first place votes and you could say, well, they're 437 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: both gonna be served to a degree, right, depending on 438 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: what you like, right and what your narrative becomes as 439 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: how you frame a guy's career. Because Pro Bowls meant 440 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: a lot twenty five years ago. Now it's you show 441 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: up to the Pro Bowl games and maybe you hit 442 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: a target forty yards downfield, or you play some flag 443 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 2: football and a bunch of guys. Yeah, juice, Yeah, call 444 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: it the skill. 445 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 5: No, yeah, but it is. But like I always think 446 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: about it, not necessarily in the game itself, right, because 447 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: people are mad because people won't play Pro Bowls with 448 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: the same vigor and zest that a regular season game 449 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: has played. But it's an exhibition game. It's an extra game. 450 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: No one is going to play hard and get hurt 451 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: in that game when it's going to impact free agent status, 452 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: long term contracts and those things. But where the Pro 453 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 5: Bowls matter is when it comes down to legacy and 454 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 5: coming off of the Hall of Fame stuff, when people 455 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 5: are beginning to build their resumes and support that MVP 456 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: matters for Josh Allen as he aims to have a 457 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 5: gold jacket having being a two time versus a three 458 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 5: time MVP matters when it comes to being Lamar Jackson 459 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: in that Hall of Fame. Vote Like, no, it doesn't 460 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: matter right now. 461 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: It didn't help it. 462 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 5: Like in twenty years it will matter. 463 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: Well, we'll get into Eli here in a minute, as 464 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: well as some of the other guys because snub was 465 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: one of the words of the week as well. Last thing, 466 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: let me just. 467 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Say one thing. 468 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: You know you talk about you know, guys don't want 469 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: to put out that much in the Pro Bowl. 470 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: Back in the day when the Pro Bowl was in Hawaii. 471 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 4: When in Hawaii, okay, and people were making less money, 472 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: they put out. Then now they're making big money. They 473 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: don't even want to play in the game. I don't 474 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: get it. What's changed. They loved going to Hawaii and 475 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: they weren't making the kind of money they make it today, 476 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: and they played hard in that game. 477 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: So what happened? What changed? 478 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 5: Well, the longer they played hard because they weren't making 479 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: that much money. So their Pro Bowl bonus had a 480 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: significant impact. But if you're talking about people making fifty 481 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: million annually, a fifty thousand dollars bonus for the Pro Bowl, 482 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: it's not gonna be enough to really make them get 483 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 5: after it. Whereas when guys weren't making that much, and 484 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: you're talking about top of the line, because I think 485 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: quarterbacks were maybe at two or three million dollars. With 486 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: a fifty thousand is significant and so you play a 487 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: little harder for that. The money has changed everything. The 488 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: more money players, Yeah, the more money the players make, 489 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 5: the less likely they're going to risk themselves on. The 490 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: thing is risk versus reward. If I risk myself, my 491 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: reward is not great enough to make me fully put 492 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: out in a Pro Bowl game. 493 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: Not to mention, you just went through a longer season, right, 494 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: added games, added work, even if you've cut off some 495 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: of the front end, which is why we saw see 496 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: bad football by a lot of teams in September. Andy, 497 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: you might know a thing or two about that. 498 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: There's a shot. 499 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: Okay, well, you always bring up the Bengals. I'll do 500 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: it here for us. I mean, well, they would have 501 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: liked to have one of those Septembers back, Sure you do. 502 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: You asked me about the Bears every week this year. 503 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: I could have them play back the tape. Okay, well, 504 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: speaking by the way, it's the last thing though, Bucky, 505 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: just to finish point. You can also blame the Jets 506 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: for Josh Allen winning the MVP. If Aaron Rodgers and 507 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: company had actually done their job, the Bills would have 508 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: finished second or third in the division. And we're not 509 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: even having this debate. Bucky go ahead. 510 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 5: Oh no, Speaking of Bears somber moment, Dick jurn from 511 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: a here coach to the Bears and the Buffalo Giles, 512 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 5: my former decordinated with jacksonanth Jaguars, passed away. 513 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: The Bears. 514 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah that was a big year. 515 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that I've ever been around in terms of 516 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: just like kind, compassionate, consider a great job of building 517 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: people up. Sad day for him, and then so it's 518 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: kind of a sad week for the Bears in general. 519 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: Virginia McCaskey passing away one. 520 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: That's a hell of a run. And the last one or. 521 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: Two before taking a knee. 522 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: I'll take one O two. That's like a FM numbers 523 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: one O two. 524 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: We're on some FM stations. Watch the ferret those out 525 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: and should give them a shout out this morning. The 526 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: last point Virginia mccassey, last football moment beating the Packers. 527 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: So good, good times there. But yeah, one hundred and 528 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: two years now, do you have a lot of It 529 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: was a pre show conversation Mark and I were having 530 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: about the Bears and well, what the direction of the 531 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: franchise is now, Like what kind of battle you get 532 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: behind the scenes that may have been brewing the will 533 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: right when you talk about legacy and succession plans and 534 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: whether you bring in private equity money or other partners 535 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: to try to get your stadium deal pushed through. Kevin 536 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Warrens made some progress, but as we know, the wheels 537 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: of big city politics get bogged down a little bit, 538 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: and they're still trying to get. 539 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: Into that Wayne move to Wayne, Indiana. 540 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: We'll get that. I like that. Let's go, let's let's 541 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: create some chaos and then we could start talking about 542 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: the history of the NBA and everything. While we're at it. 543 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: Queen Pistons exactly there you go at Andy Verman FSRS. 544 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Where you find and find Bucky over at Bucky Brooks 545 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: find me at Swollendome. Long start to the show. We'll 546 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: get into some of that Hall of Fame discussion. Yet, 547 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: ELI got a lot of the headlines, but are we 548 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: forgetting a couple of other folks. We'll talk about that 549 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: next Here on Fox. 550 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 551 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 552 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 553 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: listen live. 554 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. 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You 569 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: can go on the bet MGM app and other things 570 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: and do stuff from your home more frequently then you 571 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: used to be able to. So a little bit of tourism. 572 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: So if you guys want to get on a plane, 573 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: you can get a room for about twenty five bucks. 574 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: No no takers on that one. All right, good, good enough? 575 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: Like carbon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks. I thought that 576 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 2: would have gotten a little more wow. I could go 577 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: and do the drink wheel at the Link, or I 578 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: go see a show, maybe a little Penn and Teller. 579 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, whatever floats you. We've got the full 580 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: day of activity here Fox Sports Radio, blessed to be 581 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: with you as always, some fun speed conversation to get 582 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: things started as well for thirty teams already into the 583 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: silly season, figuring it out, but talking a lot about 584 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: the NFL honors, the MVP Award and trying to figure 585 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: out clarity and clarifications and continuity amongst people. And at 586 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: least here we get the names of people. They have 587 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: to tell us who they are major League Baseball for 588 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: the Baseball Hall of Fame. Did you guys see how 589 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: many people we don't know who they are seventy three 590 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: seventy three people voted on the Hall of Fame and 591 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: we have no idea who were, what they voted for, 592 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: or whether their family dog sent their stuff back. So 593 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: at least some level of accountability here now when it 594 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: comes to. 595 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: The host, that good though. I mean, I'll tell you why. 596 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: In this day and age, you know you have that 597 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: transparency and people know who's voting for whom you know 598 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: someone's going to send us with threatening leathers. I mean, 599 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: that's just the way. That's the society we live in today. 600 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm a voter and I'm the loan 601 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: voter who didn't vote for some one, I don't want 602 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: my name. Jim Miller probably getting some hate mail right now, 603 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: don't you think. 604 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Well, Jim, Jim's well one, he's a big boy, and 605 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: he'll put his name on it. If I know Jim 606 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: at all, Like I worked with Jim a couple of 607 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: times years in the past. He's usually not one to 608 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: mince words, so he'll he'll go on his radio shows. 609 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be on somewhere today or has been 610 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: already defending it or explaining it as it were. And 611 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: to your point, Andy, I agree with you. I mean, 612 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: look at what Nico Harrison and the folks in Dallas 613 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: are dealing with after trading Luka doncic right. It does 614 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: bring out the lunatic fringe. 615 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: There's no tu the Mavericks want to give money back 616 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: to fans about returning money to ticket holders. 617 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was up to two thousand dollars. 618 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: So what they're saying is we can get other people 619 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: to fill the three hundred level that the city's big enough. 620 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: Because I did the math, on average, it's one hundred 621 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: and seventeen bucks a remaining home game for the two 622 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: thousand dollars maximum that was being reported. So you know, 623 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: that's a decent chunk of change. 624 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: And you don't think that GM is getting some heat. 625 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: Oh no. 626 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: But that's my point is that he is right. They've 627 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: had to have extra security reports of threats on him, 628 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: et cetera. So that point is well taken. But if 629 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna put your vote out for something with that 630 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: level of substance, be it an MVP vote, be it 631 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: a hall of fame. To Bucky's point about what it 632 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: does for these people's lives, I tell you from being 633 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: in the collecting space forever, being able to put down 634 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: X time Pro Bowl, X time All Pro Hall of 635 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: Fame year. I mean, that's an extra hundred bucks the 636 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: signature added for the rest of your life. 637 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you mentioned that. 638 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: Because I'm a member of the College Football Writers and 639 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: the Pro Football Rights and I get the ballot. I 640 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: don't vote, and I tell him I don't think i'm qualified. 641 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: I don't see enough games, and I don't want to 642 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: put someone's future not in jeopardy. But it's not fast. 643 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't vote on a lot of those deals. I 644 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: just don't. I don't think it's right because I haven't 645 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: seen enough games, and I really I don't want to 646 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: take the time to keep stats on every single deal. 647 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: So I write, I send the ballot back with little 648 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: notes say thank you so much. I still want to 649 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: remain a member, but I'm not a voting member, and 650 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: I can if I want to, but I just don't. 651 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: I don't think it's right. 652 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things where, look, I'm glad 653 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: they put it out there. I think with voting members, 654 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: I think some of the names on the panel were 655 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: certainly interesting. Some of those guys were not I would 656 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: say full time NFL devotees. And so you look up 657 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: and they have a vote, You're like, okay. 658 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: Just did right size of platform? 659 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 5: Or yeah? Right, yeah, I mean friends of the program, 660 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 5: have you like membership has this privilege. It is it 661 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: is a very unique list. And at a time, and 662 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: we'll say this like, journalism is under attack. I don't 663 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 5: know how many true journalists were included in the MVP voting. 664 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: You know, Uh, it's just it's just it's just a 665 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: different time. 666 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so many journalists aren't permitted to vote because 667 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: if you write for the New York Times, and I 668 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: consider those people journalists, they're not permitted to vote. 669 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: They can't vote anymore. That's part of the deal. 670 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: Well, and that and that's where we get into, right, 671 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: certain entities have said, hey, we're not participating in votes 672 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: like this, and then you have others where it's it's clear, 673 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're more an opinionist, and the journalism has 674 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: become a little jay or it's been erased altogether, and 675 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: it's journalism and showmanship above whatever the whatever the journalistic 676 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: ethics and creeds are. I mean, let's call it what 677 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: it is. From radio to television, et cetera. That line 678 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: has certainly been blurred in our space for a long 679 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: long time, right where guys have their personal and women 680 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: have their personal biases, people they've run into, and you 681 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: can tell me to your blue in the face if 682 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: you're a voter for those things that none, no, no, 683 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: none of that matters. We're humans again. 684 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't consider a. 685 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: TV broadcaster, sportscaster, a journalist number one, number two. If 686 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 4: that guy goes into a locker room and he's being 687 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: shunned by an athlete, there's a real good chance he's 688 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: not going to vote for that guy when he's on 689 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: the ballot. 690 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: That's just the way it is. It's human nature. 691 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: Well, especially if you only have a certain number, like 692 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: for baseball, there's no it makes no sense because you 693 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: could vote for up to ten. So I mean, if 694 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: you can't get ten guys in your personal feelings really 695 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: taking on that deep dark path, that's a whole other thing. 696 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: But I guess the point I was trying to make 697 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: was like with seventy three not I get your point about, 698 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, the fear of reprisal, little bit andy, But 699 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: there's also something too. I think you should be beholden 700 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: to put your name on it in this because it 701 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: does affect people's lives, It does affect people's money, how 702 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: they're looked at historically, and all of those things, you know, 703 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: and it's in in theory. You you got the vote 704 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: because you've shown the the ethics, the history, uh, et 705 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: cetera to have earned said vote. So why why would 706 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: you hide from who you voted for? 707 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: Well, who's the one guy who did vote for Marianna 708 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: Rivera for the Baseball Hall of Fame? 709 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: Well, Mariano got in unanimously. Jeter and Intro didn't. 710 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, right. 711 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: The intro thing is there was a parody account that 712 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: got some runs, so good on him on that, but 713 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: as of now they have not ferreted that one guy 714 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: out realistically, although Etro did say he'd love to sit 715 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: and have a drink with him to talk it out. So, 716 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you got you got that. But but certainly 717 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: you know it's I get the volatility of it, and 718 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: some of it for your own protection, but the reality 719 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: is also, you know, because it does affect things in 720 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: a very real sense, and how history sees a lot 721 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: of these guys, uh that will we'll have those debates. 722 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: Uh and with that said, will continue by having said 723 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: debate Eli maybe Luke Keith, maybe there's a walrust like 724 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: coach that should have gotten in. Let's talk about those next. 725 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman and me, Mike Carmon. This is 726 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday. 727 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to. 728 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome back, hendetire Act dot com, 729 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. However you're listening, we appreciate you. 730 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: The iHeartRadio app, serious XM Channel eighty three, our four 731 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: hundred plus affiliates nationwide. More coming online hour an hour, 732 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: day after day. Our team doing a great job. You 733 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: heard all the broadcasts out of New Orleans this week 734 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: we were holding up shop here in Los Angeles, Smith 735 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: and I. All the podcasts, including this one, will be 736 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: up for your perusal as you get ready for your 737 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 2: game day experience. We're blessed to be with you and 738 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: my partners each and every Sunday. It's a blessing to 739 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: be with Andy and Bucky and Andy Furman FSR at 740 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. I hope you guys understand for me, everything 741 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: all in good fun and I am blessed and shoot 742 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: out the door every Sunday morning to come and hang 743 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: out with you guys and our team. It means the 744 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: world to me to be able to help lead the 745 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: network's coverage, especially on big red carpet days like this. 746 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: So I thank you both for the conversations and friendship. 747 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. 748 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: Hey, no, it's a blessing, you know. We can we 749 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: get to talk about the game. We love the game 750 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: Bucky played. I mean, Andy, you and I still in 751 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: awestruck wonder of this guy, proficient worker x NFL player. 752 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: I want BUCkies autograph. 753 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: There you go. 754 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: How much is it worth? 755 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 756 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 5: How much is your to go? 757 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: Gotta be worth a couple of bucks. 758 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 759 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta go. We gotta go scouting into 760 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: my emays say. 761 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 4: For several teams that we go for those going with 762 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 4: those various markets and give a little extra cash like 763 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: in Green Bay and other markets. 764 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: See, that's that's the way you go. And that's a 765 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: perfect segue for you there, Andy Furman talking about the 766 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame An Alan, Alan, A Gates and a Sharp, 767 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: the law firm that goes in. Eric Allen and Jared 768 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: Allen find their way in Antonio Gates second year on 769 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: the ballot. I don't think anybody who had any issue 770 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: with him getting in last year seemed to be more 771 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 2: a substantive thing as related to maybe the ped test 772 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: that kept him out a year, right, the old hey 773 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: let's punish you kind of thanks Sterling sharp year nineteen 774 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: for him. Congratulations to Don Mkowski. He gets part of 775 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: that honor. 776 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: Smallest class in twenty years. 777 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: Well, they changed the voting rules, and this is where 778 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: it starts to get interesting. It's a little more restrictive. 779 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: Jason Cole joined us next Hour to talk about it 780 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: a little bit more, but in terms of those thresholds 781 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: from the fifteen and down that it's going to get squeezed, 782 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: which is interesting. So those guys that didn't make it 783 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: this year, they might be waiting a while. Eli Manning, 784 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: what did you guys think when it came out? So 785 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: strong feelings either way? 786 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 5: Bucky, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I 787 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: respect the two rings, but he's not a Hall of Famer. 788 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 5: And no time doing his career did I ever feel 789 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 5: like he's a top five quarterback. And if you're not 790 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 5: a top five quarterback doing your era, how can you 791 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 5: be a goal jackie guy? The Hall of Famer is 792 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 5: for the elite of the elites. He wasn't elite enough. 793 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: Yikes. 794 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 4: I changed my mind on that because I felt the 795 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 4: same way Bucket did for the longest time. And then 796 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: we've got the two rings and he has the demanding name. 797 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 4: But I looked at his stats. I mean, top ten 798 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: old time in passing and touchdowns and more than that. 799 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 4: You know, I understand that his record was just over 800 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 4: five hundred, but Dan Fouts was two games of a 801 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: five hundred and war and Moon was a game of 802 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 4: a five hundred. I think the two Super Bowl rings 803 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: mean something. I think he's a Hall of Famer Now, 804 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 4: I really do pass for fifty seven thousand aards. I 805 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: mean that's a lot of the yards and three in 806 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: the sixty six career touchdowns and never missed the game 807 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 4: in sixteen seasons. 808 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: And you'll appreciate this. Some of the explanation is that 809 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 2: there was a lot of hand ringing and very vociferous 810 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: work by current Hall of Fame members to try to 811 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: make the pulling the electing body revisit their conversations. All right, 812 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 2: since we're gonna lose you here, in a minute, Andy, 813 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: your Super Bowl pick? Who's the MVP? 814 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Eagles are going to win it. I think 815 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 4: their quarterback Hurts will get the MVP. 816 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: A little bit of Jalen Hurts love, which is fun 817 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: because a guy get into his second Super Bowl has 818 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 2: been like, you know, Anthony Davis getting traded to Dallas. 819 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: He's just a guy. At least that would be the 820 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: narrative that we've had here this last week. And Andy 821 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: Furman FSRS where you find him at Bucky Brooks. I'm 822 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. We're gonna continue the conversation as 823 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: we roll through. Revisit a little more of Saquon Barkley. 824 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 2: Does the line make the man vision versus the surroundings? 825 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: We'll do that as we continue next on Fox Football Sunday. 826 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: Blessed to be with you another hour. Welcome in wherever 827 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: you are waking up walking the dog. Two from sir 828 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: us is however you're spending your Sunday morning. Thank you 829 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: for making us part of your day, being part of 830 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: our extended family here at Fox Sports Radio, ever expanding, growing, 831 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: ever influential. We appreciate you as we broadcast live from 832 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: the tire rac Dot com Studios tirerac dot com. We'll 833 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: help you get there an Unmatt's selection, fast, free shipping, 834 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers, tire 835 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: rac dot com the way tire buying should be. Thanks 836 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: to our guy Andy Furman. He tags out, as does Mark, 837 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: our technical producer. Our guy Chris Purffett tags in. We've 838 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: got Isaac Lohencron on the updates, but can't do this alone. 839 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmon, thanks for being with us. It's our 840 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: guy Bucky Brooks on the other side of the microphones here, 841 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: five years in the league, NFL dot com, Fox sports 842 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: dot com, all the writing. His first mock draft is up, 843 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: so you can start syncing your teeth into the futures 844 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 2: and fortunes of your favorite squads as we get ready 845 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: for the final game of the year. Bucky, I'm jacked 846 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: up about it. I'm kind of sad, but also great 847 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: anticipation for what we're going to see later on today. 848 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, this would be a lot of fun. You know, 849 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 5: you have two of the best teams, and I will 850 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 5: say that two of the best teams should play in 851 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. And you have that, you have the 852 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 5: most talented team in the football in the National Football 853 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 5: League in Phildephia Eagles. You have the two time defending 854 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 5: champions and the Kansity Chiefs who have an opportunity to 855 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 5: go with three peet this is how it should go, 856 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 5: and so either team don't have a dog in the race. 857 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 5: I don't really care, but like, this should be a 858 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 5: lot of fun to see how this plays out. 859 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: I just want entertainment and for the final four minutes 860 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 2: to matter and that I wake up tomorrow and it's 861 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: not people doing zibruder film on what could have been 862 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: a hold a hand inside a jersey or any of 863 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: that nonsense to where the officials can stay off and 864 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: never land. I know that's wishing and hoping, and that 865 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 2: means I've been watching a lot of Disney Princess movies again, 866 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: revisiting those with my teenage daughters as they wax poetically 867 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: about their younger years. But it's that kind of thing, 868 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,479 Speaker 2: just hoping that we get great performances. In to your point, 869 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: you know I'm making and you and I trade the 870 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: wrestling references. It's it's kind of nice to see the 871 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 2: defending champ have to be knocked off on the biggest 872 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 2: stage by a team that from pillar to post we 873 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: look at having a great assembly of talent and a 874 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 2: coach that is perhaps the biggest enigma of it all. 875 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: Despite all the winning, there's still the whispers and maybe 876 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: it's the lunatic fringe, kind of like Ryan Day with 877 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: Ohio State Bucky. But the if he doesn't win and 878 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: Sirianni and the Eagles fall short, could the ownership do 879 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: something rash as he's going into the final year of 880 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: his deal. But a guy that feels like I'm not 881 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: a huge legacy tak guy. I like to let things 882 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: play out and let's see where the final chips are 883 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: and comparing eras or whatever. But Nick Sirianni a guy 884 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: when we talk about legacy making. Today seems to be 885 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: it for him. 886 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, lke, this is big. And once again we talked 887 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 5: about in the College Football Playoff the pressure on Ryan 888 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 5: Day and how would he respond. He responded by playing, 889 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 5: I would say, coaching his best yep, you know. And 890 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 5: so this is what we need to see from Nick Sirianne. 891 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 5: I've long believed that he's one of the best coaches 892 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 5: in the league. Just look at his rugger. He's won 893 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 5: over seventy percent of his game since taken over as 894 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 5: head coach. The thing that you always worry about with 895 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 5: Nick Sirianna and the Eagles emotional maturity. Can he keep 896 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 5: his emotions in check in the biggest moments of the 897 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,959 Speaker 5: game to guide his team like a good leader does. 898 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: That's what you want, you want to see. But everything 899 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 5: that a good leader is supposed to do, he's already done. 900 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 5: They started off struggling, He fixed them. They were disappointing 901 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 5: last year. He got them back on track. He made 902 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 5: change the coordinated position to help get this offense and 903 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 5: defense to an elite level. He certainly has all the 904 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 5: qualities that you look for in a head coach. Is 905 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 5: just the emotional part of him, this personality that you 906 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 5: worry about. 907 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the curiosity right in those final moments, 908 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 2: the act like you've been there before, the old Barry 909 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: Sanders flipped the ball to the referee, now extended to 910 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: the coaching box and to your players for that to 911 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: that matter. But you know, we talked a little bit 912 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: last hour. And look, if you go into the MVP 913 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: odds in your in your betting channels, you basically have 914 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 2: it's a three man race, right, it's the two quarterbacks 915 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: and Saquon Barkley are the prohibitive favorites in terms of 916 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: where money's leaning. The amount of prop bet money being 917 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: put down on Saquon Barkley immense. Bill Krackenberger will break 918 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: that down for you next hour. Some of the numbers 919 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 2: are absolutely staggering, and the countdown to kickoff presented by 920 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: bet MGM joins us after we're finished today. All the 921 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: stuff to help find the edge and get you that 922 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: much smarter as you go to your Super Bowl parties 923 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: or maybe hit the the apps across the land. But 924 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: all of that to say, you know, when we look 925 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: at the setup Jalen hurts it guy who's kind of 926 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 2: been dismissed from me, I'm curious where he is physically Bucky. 927 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 2: I mean the two weeks obviously help, but how much 928 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 2: of a factor the knee is. I see the over 929 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: under for his rushing yard sitting at an ice robust 930 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: thirty seven and a half, which would lead me to 931 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 2: believe Vegas and whatever intel they've got things that he'll 932 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: be at full throttle to help compliment things in the offense. 933 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I exped him to be at full speed. I 934 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 5: just fed him to be the same guy that he's 935 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 5: been in terms of being a dominant run it with 936 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 5: some big time potential to help you as a sidekick 937 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 5: to Saquon Barkley, It's gonna be really important that he 938 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 5: does utilize his athleticism and his running ability as the 939 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 5: chief trying and find a way to neutralize Saquon Barkley. 940 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 5: They gonna load to Lina Scrimmers. They're gonna blitz and 941 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 5: do those things. But the thing about blitzing is the 942 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 5: quarterback being unaccounted for in the run game. That is 943 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 5: a different thing. And do they utilize some of those 944 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 5: schemes that allow Jalen Hurts to be utilized in the 945 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 5: run game on read option, power read and some of 946 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 5: those other things. Yeah, it's a big game, but this 947 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 5: is part of what we like. We can talk about 948 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 5: the talent, but I love the tactics and the chess 949 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 5: match that we go see and Nick Sirian and his 950 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 5: company come up with an answer. 951 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I heard you and Andy as I was 952 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: driving in talking a little bit of trying to give 953 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: some love the defensive coordinators and Smith laughs at me 954 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: all the time. He's like, all you talk about is 955 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: offensive lines and defensive players. When we start breaking this 956 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 2: stuff down, like everybody else does, the Mahome stuff, everybody 957 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: else talks about AJ Brown and Travis Kelsey Kelsey fourteen 958 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: to one for your MVP. We went off the grid. 959 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: We basically said, well, we've got to take long shots. 960 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: So Kansas City having issues defending the tight end, So 961 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard getting a little bit of love in that regard. 962 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 2: For me, I went defensively thinking that it was going 963 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: to take a big Spagnolo call and a play from 964 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: Jones or Carl loftis to help seal things. Some of 965 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: that's being cute. I recognize it's kind of like the 966 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: MVP award we were talking about last hour of Oh, 967 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 2: the quarterback wins it unless something really crazy happens. 968 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 5: I mean typically that is that is true unless it's 969 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 5: one where the quarterback puts up pedestrian numbers, and then 970 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 5: you look for anything like who's the one get who 971 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 5: can we give it to, who has the best stats 972 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: or whatever. But now it's gonna be a game where 973 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 5: the sidekicks really have to come through the stars, and 974 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 5: the stars they're gonna do what they do. But who 975 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 5: is the unlikely hero that's gonna step up and make 976 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 5: a play. 977 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: Now, let's let's talk about it for a minute. Right 978 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 2: we went, We got into the MVP talk a little 979 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: bit last hour. Folks will be able to podcast that 980 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: when we're done with the show here, Shale'll get that 981 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: up and popping, because I think it's a fun discussion 982 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: and I think we did it more nuanced, right, not 983 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: a lot of like, as you say, no dog in 984 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: the fight, Like you're just trying to parse through and 985 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: weed through the noise to get there, and I think 986 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: some of it goes into trying to unpack some of 987 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: the numbers, right, And me, I love the big uglies 988 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 2: and on both sides, I've got a Casey Hampton Steelers 989 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: jersey to show you where I'm at in terms of 990 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: that stuff that someone gifted me many years ago. But 991 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: I have the you know, the offensive line for the 992 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: Eagles and the job that they do, and when we 993 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 2: see highlights, it's a lot of you know, big explosive runs. 994 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: Barkley gets the full credit, but make me smarter, Bucky, 995 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: like in terms of percentages when we when we break 996 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: through that and it's not a Hey, I had to 997 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: shuffle through and break through a couple of tackles and 998 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm running to daylight. How much is vision versus scheme 999 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: and the execution up front? I mean, obviously the marriage 1000 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: has to be there. I don't want to give anybody 1001 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: short shrift and want to make sure we're recognizing Barkley, 1002 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 2: Henry and those guys for the vision that they do 1003 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: have while also paying tribute. It's that delicate balance. 1004 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is that delicate balance, But you want to 1005 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 5: give them credit. The offensive line certainly makes the game 1006 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 5: easy for Sae Kwon Barkley. He frequently gets to the 1007 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage untouched. It reminds me of Emma Smith 1008 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 5: back in the day when he played behind the Great 1009 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 5: Wall of Dallas that so many times talk about. Yeah, 1010 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 5: so many people will talk about Barry Sanders being a 1011 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 5: better running back because Emma didn't have to do all 1012 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 5: the work. It's very similar to this situation. You take 1013 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 5: an A plus running back with an A plus offensive line, 1014 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 5: they create problems, and however, you split the baby fifty 1015 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 5: to fifty. When it comes to does the L line 1016 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 5: deserve credit? We can give them that. The only thing 1017 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 5: that I will say is Saquon Barkley enhances whatever they 1018 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 5: get blocking so I have to play would normally get 1019 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 5: you four to five yards. You give them credit, but 1020 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 5: Saquon's ability to take into distance separate them from others well. 1021 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: And that's it, right, trying to find those lines of 1022 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 2: demarcation and certainly the devaluation at least one thousand yard seasons. 1023 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 2: I think we've done that when we keep adding games 1024 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: and all, you know, just it's math. It's math, as 1025 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 2: it were, and the splitting of workloads. So when we 1026 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: do have workhorse tailbacks, I like to think that we 1027 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: still celebrate them pretty well, even if you're not approaching 1028 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 2: two thousand yards. But for Barkley, a magical season. For 1029 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurtzon company, you know, trying to pick up. And 1030 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 2: it goes back to the Sirianni comment you made. I 1031 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: think of last year second half disaster, right, it was 1032 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: them and the Jaguars that got a lot of the 1033 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: heat in twenty twenty three in terms of how the 1034 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: season ended, and I think it was Sirianni got some help. 1035 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: Although the noise in Philadelphia is certainly loud, no question 1036 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 2: about it. This is a Super Bowl where a lot 1037 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 2: of folks I know that are neutral like I hate 1038 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 2: them both. I wish I had another option to watch 1039 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: some other sporting event. 1040 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 5: I mean, people sound like they were walking up to 1041 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 5: the election. At some point you got a root for 1042 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 5: somebody like I did. Right, like the two teams. So 1043 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 5: either you want to see a three peat or you 1044 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 5: want to see the I can't even say the underdogs, 1045 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 5: but the underdogs win that they looked at That's how 1046 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 5: you fall. Either you respect the excellence that the Kansas 1047 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 5: City Chiefs will displayed inn being a three time or 1048 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 5: a three peat champion, or you look into the more 1049 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 5: talented team to Eagles this. Do they have not only 1050 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 5: the town to get it done, but do they have 1051 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 5: the medal to knock out the champion? Because they always 1052 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 5: say in these things, you got to knock out the champion. 1053 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 5: You can't leave it to the cords. So can the 1054 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 5: Eagles knock the Chiefs out? Something that we haven't seen 1055 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 5: many teams be able to do. 1056 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: And that's the biggest point with when it comes to 1057 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 2: all of the extra controversy and I put those in 1058 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 2: air quotes as related to the Chiefs right, A lot 1059 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 2: of oxygen into it. Roger Goodell addressed it. I think 1060 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 2: he did a good job because the second part of 1061 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: his comments related to the officials seems to have been forgotten, 1062 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: but it just kind of threw out the Yeah, we 1063 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 2: have to recognize the spotlights on and we have to 1064 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: keep improving. Now. He didn't go deep into dives about 1065 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: technology or all those other things like people were yelling 1066 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: for after the AFC title game. But you know, you 1067 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 2: have to acknowledge the elephant in the room of where 1068 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 2: perception for some folks becomes reality, right, especially if you 1069 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: go down a rabbit hole on any of the social 1070 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: media platforms or your favorite talking head who likes to 1071 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: go into the conspiracy theories, then you're going to stay 1072 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 2: in that corner. So you have to acknowledge it's there 1073 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: and then quickly give it a backhand with whatever data 1074 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: you can. But if you leave it to the judges, 1075 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: guess what, most of the time you're taking an l one. 1076 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 5: And that's why with those games in Kansas City, when 1077 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 5: you're playing the Kans City Chiefs, you got to play 1078 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 5: the game to win it, regardless of the score. Your 1079 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 5: job is to keep stacking points because in your mind, 1080 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 5: you have to know they're coming. You know they're coming. 1081 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes is going to leading back. We've seen it 1082 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 5: happen time and time again, so you got to keep playing. 1083 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 5: You cannot take your foot off the gas. And let's 1084 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,959 Speaker 5: be honest because a lot of people, I think people 1085 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 5: have to go back and look at the Zuer Bowl 1086 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 5: from two years ago to really get an understanding that 1087 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 5: Philadelphia was dominating the game until a turnover crack the 1088 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 5: door open for the Kansaity Chiefs to work their way 1089 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 5: back in it. Nick Bolden's scooping school were changed to 1090 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 5: ten and the tone of the game because the look 1091 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 5: the Eagles were teetering, uh, they had them on the 1092 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 5: brink of blowing the game open, and that turnover did it. 1093 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 5: So if you're the Eagles, you should step into this 1094 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 5: game with a lot of confidence and just because like 1095 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 5: it happened, the last game doesn't matter, but you should 1096 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 5: have enough confidence to know that we can disband on 1097 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 5: this team. 1098 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 4: Now. 1099 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 2: I wish they more attention paid to the game that 1100 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: Hurts had and that offense did. To your point, I 1101 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 2: mean turnovers, what is it seventy right win that battle 1102 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 2: or maybe a little bit higher there. And as we 1103 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: go through certainly the process. All right, last Saquon Barkley 1104 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 2: for I'll just give you the prop that first carry 1105 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 2: over under four and a half yards. Ooh, under stuffed 1106 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: the bustings early. 1107 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 5: I think they're going to blitz them from the time 1108 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 5: they get off the bus. This is a game we're 1109 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 5: gonna see. When I was Agains the City, Guntha Cunning 1110 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 5: him the late coordinator, Yeah, and he would talk about, 1111 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 5: hey man, this is the week, suys and such as 1112 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 5: to wear the big sombrero. This is Jalen Hurst's big 1113 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 5: sombrero moment. If they're going to win, Jalen Hurst is 1114 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 5: going to have to deliver as a passer. I don't 1115 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 5: think there's any way that Spags is going to let 1116 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 5: twenty six be the deciding factor in the game. 1117 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. The over under for his longest rush of the 1118 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: game is twenty four and a half yards, and his 1119 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 2: total is fluctuated quite a bit. I've seen it as 1120 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: low as one thirteen, seeing it all the way out 1121 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: to one eighteen. So all that is to say is, 1122 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 2: if you're going up and down the strip do your shopping, 1123 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 2: you may find some variants in pricing along the way. 1124 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 2: Really quickly, we've got Jason Cole coming up in just 1125 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Talk some of the Hall of 1126 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: Fame voting, the process change, and some of the behind 1127 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: the closed doors kind of conversation. Always good for that 1128 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 2: with us thirty third team. He's been in the game 1129 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: a long time, a lot of books. His l Way 1130 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 2: book is one of my favorites. The stories he got 1131 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 2: from mom and pop on all of that. I got 1132 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: a couple of notes from Chicago, and we know people 1133 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 2: change each hour. We bring on new affiliates. Wanted to 1134 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 2: give you a chance. They loved what you had to 1135 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 2: say about Dick Jeron and his memory and the leader 1136 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 2: he was thirteen and three season for the Bears, two 1137 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 2: thousand and one Coach of the Year, but a guy 1138 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 2: you worked with and had the utmost respect for you. 1139 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: Put it up on Twitter and gave us a little 1140 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 2: snippet of that earlier. If you could revisit that for 1141 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 2: a moment as to what he meant to your career 1142 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: and the process for you. 1143 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so did. Jeron was my defensive coordinator with Jackson 1144 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 5: with the Jaguars. I was just picked up off waivers after 1145 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 5: being released from the Green Bay Packers. The Jaguars partially 1146 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 5: picked me up because Jiran previously served as a defensive 1147 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 5: backs coach for the Green Bay Packers and he had 1148 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 5: a relationship with Bob Alacente and that team, and so 1149 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 5: he knew about me. He also knew that I was 1150 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 5: a project. You have to remember Jiran was an All 1151 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 5: Pro member of the Detroit Lies, but he was a 1152 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 5: guy who was a terrific running back eight Yale before 1153 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 5: making conversion to defensive back. So he helped me learn 1154 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 5: how to go from playing offense to defense. And one 1155 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 5: of the things that he did is he encouraged me 1156 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,959 Speaker 5: to make mistakes in practice. And he would always say 1157 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 5: that you never know what your boundaries are until you 1158 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 5: push the limits in practice. And what practice is supposed 1159 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 5: to do is allow you to know what you can 1160 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 5: and what you can't do, and then in the game 1161 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 5: you only put yourself in a position to do what 1162 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 5: you can do. Before pro coach at the time where 1163 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 5: everything hangs on the performance of young players to kind 1164 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 5: of give me that freedom, man, it worked wonders for 1165 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 5: me when it came to the career. And then he 1166 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 5: also has so many other wise words. When he talked 1167 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 5: about building championship teams. He talked about it because I've 1168 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 5: said it on our show. He said, look, man, Bucky, 1169 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 5: it never changed in any sport. You got to be 1170 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 5: strong down the middle. He said. In baseball is catcher, pitcher, centerfielder, 1171 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 5: second and shortstop. It never changed. Basketball, point guard, center, 1172 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 5: he said, football is the same. And he just had 1173 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 5: so much wisdom. For such a kind man to share, 1174 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 5: that is one of those things that you always want 1175 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 5: to pay it for it by being just as nice 1176 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 5: to the people that you encounter and the young athletes 1177 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 5: that you have an opportunity to. 1178 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 2: Mentor fantastic stuff at Bucky Brooks where you find him 1179 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 2: at Big Play Football, in the Instagram world, check out 1180 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 2: his columns NFL dot com, Foxsports dot Com. We're blessed 1181 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 2: to have him with us each and every week. And yeah, 1182 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 2: some of the tributes I've seen for Dick Jaron just 1183 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 2: talking about the man as much as the football side. 1184 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 2: Just always the great measure of where you're at. We 1185 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 2: can all aspire to such things. We aspire for greatness 1186 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 2: here on the radio, here at Fox Sports Radio. We're 1187 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 2: gonna do it next talking about greatness, the Hall of 1188 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: Fame and that famous s word no no, no snub, 1189 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 2: keep your head out of the gut. Or it's a 1190 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. He's Bucky Brooks on Mike Harmon. This is 1191 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. 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We appreciate you being with us 1211 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 2: here on this fine morning. Effting our man Jason Cole 1212 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 2: as we go this morning. Obviously a lot of moving 1213 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 2: parts as you get into a super Sunday. Bucky Brooks 1214 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 2: and We've talked a lot about matchup fun and excitement. 1215 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: It is good to get down to brass tacks about 1216 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 2: the game. You got a lot of peripheral stuff. Does 1217 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: he or does any in Travis Kelcey and it's either 1218 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: the is he going to propose or is he going 1219 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 2: to retire? If they win the game. I would find 1220 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 2: it hard to believe he walks away. I think you'd 1221 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: get on a Rob Gronkowski kind of meal, wouldn't you 1222 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: where you say, Hey, I'm the veteran. I'm not showing 1223 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 2: up to training camp, but I'll see you guys along 1224 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: the road. 1225 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. He's thirty five. He has a 1226 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 5: lot of cash, ladies hot. 1227 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of cash that keeps growing for sure. 1228 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, he could go out as a three peat champion 1229 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 5: that has never been done. I mean there are a 1230 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 5: lot of things that would make it kind of like 1231 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 5: a fairy tale ending, you know, Hollywood story. If he 1232 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 5: goes out following a win, I don't know, man, Look, 1233 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 5: I think it's his. I think also any we would 1234 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 5: be willing to work with him to make it like 1235 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 5: kind of doable if he wanted to come back. But 1236 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 5: I don't know, Man thirty five, He's played a long 1237 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 5: time and he has all the records. He goes down 1238 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 5: as like one of the greatest of all time based 1239 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 5: on the numbers, and based on numbers they would say 1240 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 5: the greatest of all time. It's Look, it's a great 1241 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 5: stud to be. 1242 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 2: In and a guy expected to play a huge role 1243 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 2: for this Kansas City offense today. The over under a 1244 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 2: lot of the betting props at that six and a 1245 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: half reception sixty five plus receiving yards in the process 1246 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 2: for it as well, Bucky, when we look at the 1247 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Kansas City offensive side of things, the death by a 1248 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: thousand paper cuts is what it seems like. I pinned 1249 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 2: a little bit in our discussion this week on the 1250 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: return of Hollywood Brown. I know Xavier Worthy has a 1251 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: healthy fifty five and a half tag on his over under. 1252 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Trying to right, you know, just not necessarily to tell 1253 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 2: you how to bet or what to bet, but just 1254 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: throwing out some of the lines that we do here 1255 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: just to kind of show you what Vegas has put 1256 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 2: up in terms of some of the simulation and numbers 1257 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 2: and algorithms. But is this one where Patrick mahomes we're 1258 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 2: going to look at Chiefs if they're in the W column. 1259 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 2: We've got like eight or nine guys that have a 1260 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 2: play a factor in that past game. 1261 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 5: I think so the big X factor is Hollywood Brown, 1262 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 5: and Hollywood Brown is the X factor because before they 1263 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 5: only had one guy that could be the vertical threat, 1264 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 5: and that was zavierer Worthy. Now you put Hollywood Brown 1265 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 5: on the field, you have two guys that can stretch 1266 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 5: the field and create lanes for Travis Kelsey over in 1267 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 5: the middle of the field. I don't believe it's coincidental 1268 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 5: that they scored thirty plus points against the Buffalo Bills 1269 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 5: with Hollywood Brown back in the lineup. They make you 1270 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 5: defend every area of the field. Now that he is back, 1271 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 5: it's a game changes and he could be the X 1272 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 5: factor that we look back and say, hey, he was 1273 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 5: the difference, whether it's based on his number or just 1274 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 5: based on his ability to stretch the field and impact others. 1275 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 5: He could be a big key in this game. 1276 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: See I dig that making me sound smarter. He's over 1277 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 2: under for longest catch seventeen and a half yards. 1278 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 5: M I tacked over. 1279 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking either a little slug o kind of 1280 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 2: thing or maybe just a big pop suck up on 1281 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 2: the line because they're going to try to force the 1282 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 2: ball out of my home's hands early and maybe you 1283 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 2: take a deep shot early. 1284 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I think it's funny because it could be anything, 1285 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,919 Speaker 5: but I expect him to take some shots early. Here's 1286 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 5: the thing. No one has talked about this, right because 1287 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 5: I think if they talked about it, I don't know 1288 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 5: how many people feel good about making the Eagles to 1289 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 5: pick Vic Fangio is against. 1290 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Crazy, isn't it? 1291 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 5: Oh and eight? I mean that is some kind of 1292 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 5: dominance that a one player has over a coordinator. And 1293 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 5: here's the thing that we know about old people. It 1294 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,959 Speaker 5: is hard for them to change. Yeah, so he's done 1295 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 5: something like if he hasn't done it in the first 1296 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 5: eight games, what new trick is he gonna come up 1297 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 5: with that he hasn't already tried. So that's the one 1298 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 5: thing that gives me pause. Like, Hey, I know we're 1299 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 5: saying that Philadelphia's better, but the coordinator can't slow down. 1300 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes, that's an issue. 1301 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Quote. 1302 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 2: If we win, I'll be one and eight. I'd still 1303 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,959 Speaker 2: hear it, Banjo said on Super Bowl Opening Night. Yeah, 1304 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: muted opening night. This week again, with all the n 1305 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 2: NBA trade talk for better or for worse, people were 1306 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: kind of unhappy. Hey, look, NFL came and took Christmas 1307 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 2: the NBA with the trade deadline. You actually had some 1308 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 2: stuff of substance go down with some big names. By 1309 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 2: the way, pat Riley still wins the week even though 1310 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: he lost that Jimmy Butler stare down because he's now 1311 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 2: allowing the NFL if the Chiefs win, they can license 1312 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 2: three peat stuff. So he's gonna get paid because he's 1313 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: got the trademark, copyright and everything on that. How you 1314 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 2: like that? 1315 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 5: Business always business. 1316 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Personal, It's always business. But it's just kind of funny. Right, 1317 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: So Monday, we didn't We didn't get a lot of fireworks. 1318 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 2: You had some stupid questions and and certainly you had 1319 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: a couple of dopes who will remain nameless, going around 1320 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: all the Chiefs players and asking about the officials and 1321 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 2: who their favorite officials were and all of those things. 1322 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: I do find it interesting. And this was a note 1323 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 2: from that I found earlier in the week that based 1324 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 2: on the grating the change of officials at such two 1325 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 2: of them wouldn't have qualified in past years for the 1326 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So interesting, one little extra wrinkle to things. 1327 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say this before everyone gets mad at 1328 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 5: the officials. I got a former teammate, a college teammate, 1329 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 5: and one of my buddies from the NFL, Mike Morton, 1330 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 5: a long time officials getting this chance to officiate his 1331 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 5: first Super Bowl. No kidding, so anytime. Yeah, So Mike Morton, 1332 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,959 Speaker 5: what is he is? He he's not a back. He's 1333 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 5: back there with the I don't know the official title. 1334 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 5: Maybe he's back to but he is. Yeah, he's doing 1335 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 5: to mix. And Mike was a linebacker for four years 1336 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 5: I think with the Raiders. We were together at North Carolina, 1337 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 5: so we had a chance to play together a couple 1338 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 5: of different spots. But he is a dentist by day 1339 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 5: in an official by night. But he gets an opportunity 1340 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 5: to officiate his first Super Bowl. 1341 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 2: All right, Well let's go. I'll cheer for him. See, 1342 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 2: I'll go find my Rob Low NFL. I actually have 1343 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 2: one of those Rob Low NFL hats. Smith decided he 1344 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 2: was going to be a smart Alec and he gifted 1345 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 2: me one of those one year. So maybe I'll wear 1346 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 2: that to the Super Bowl party I go to later. 1347 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Who are you rooting for the NFL and in this 1348 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 2: case the Zebras because I'm hoping that they remain. I 1349 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: hope he does a fantastic job and gets his kudos 1350 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 2: versus becoming the latest guy that folks want to get 1351 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 2: after and rake over the Coles. But like we always 1352 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 2: talk about, it comes with the business, like being on 1353 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 2: air here at Fox Sports Radio or writing at Bucky 1354 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 2: Brooks at Swollen Dome as we do so for Vic Fangio, 1355 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 2: what's you got to do to get that w or 1356 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: is it all really going to be the offense having 1357 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 2: to win a shootout? 1358 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 5: No? I mean, look, I think he has to missive 1359 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 5: mix up his looks. Normally in the past, when you 1360 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 5: play Kansas City, you want to play zone. You want 1361 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 5: to keep the ball in front, you want to see 1362 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 5: if you can stop him and slow him down in 1363 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 5: the red zone. I think there's still something to that, 1364 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 5: depending on how they feel about the matchups early, you 1365 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 5: mix them, Samanda Man. If you can cover them, you 1366 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 5: can stay in it some. But it's really important that 1367 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 5: you spin in the wheel. You cannot allow Patrick Mahomes 1368 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 5: to get a bet on what you're doing. Diversity is 1369 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 5: really key against him because once he locks in on 1370 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 5: what you're doing, then he's going to change and kind 1371 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 5: of attack the defense appropriately. So you want to keep 1372 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 5: him guessing. But at the end of the day, because 1373 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 5: you have so many young guys playing for the Eagles, 1374 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,919 Speaker 5: right you got Nolan Smith and Jayalen Carter who are young. 1375 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 5: You got Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen and some other 1376 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 5: guys that are real young, you don't want to change 1377 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 5: up a whole lot of what you've done to get 1378 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 5: you to this point. And so it's about the execution 1379 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 5: part of it. But for Fanjo it's a tough matchup, 1380 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 5: but it's also tough for the Kencaidy Chiefs taking on 1381 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 5: what the Eagles do offensively as well. 1382 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 2: It is fun to see the young guys get get 1383 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: their due though, right and and come into what has 1384 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 2: been fairly machine like. We talked about the Eagles and 1385 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 2: their roster for the last several years as being among 1386 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 2: the greats. Last year the coordinator changes, and then that 1387 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 2: worked fine for about a half a season, and then 1388 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 2: all the questions about malcontentedness, and even aj Brown a 1389 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago taught with the book. Thing was 1390 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 2: all right, what is that really born out of right? 1391 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Because normally we get those shots if you think of 1392 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 2: guy's dissatisfied with things, those become part of a long 1393 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 2: standing narrative. So that the fact that he'd done it 1394 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 2: before must have been when they were winning. And he 1395 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 2: talked openly about mental health and his struggles this week. 1396 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 2: So that was one of the more powerful interactions that 1397 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 2: we saw. If you miss that, check that out on 1398 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 2: social media as well. But a guy who's been kind 1399 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 2: of quiet in the playoffs thus far, and some wondering 1400 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 2: how the Eagles get him on track and into the 1401 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 2: offense early. 1402 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think he's scripted. Within the first 1403 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 5: fifteen players. You want to make sure you get them involved, 1404 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 5: you get the ball in his hands, let them kind 1405 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 5: of feel what it's like to get a taste of it, 1406 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 5: and then you just go to work. This is one 1407 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 5: where really, man, in anything like you probably scale back 1408 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 5: on what you tend to do, so you guys can 1409 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 5: play fast. This game is unlike any of the game. 1410 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 5: These guys are going to be in the pressure, the urgency, 1411 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 5: the finality of it all will lead them to be 1412 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 5: super nervous and very very tight when it comes to 1413 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 5: trying to get into it. As a coach, your job 1414 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 5: is to make the game easy for them. So let's 1415 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 5: do the day one stuff, the stuff that they've been 1416 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 5: doing since the first day they walked in the OTAs. 1417 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 5: Let them get comfortable, then ease them into it, and 1418 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 5: then attack with some newer stuff. But right at the 1419 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 5: beginning of the game, you want to make them comforable 1420 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 5: because everyone's going to be full of the butterflies. 1421 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks where you find them, 1422 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 2: read them NFL dot com, foxsports dot Com is first 1423 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 2: first round mock draft is up for your perusals, some surprises, 1424 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 2: some debate points up top, which is what we love, Bucky. 1425 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 2: What happens with those first picks Tennessee, Cleveland, New York, 1426 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 2: et cetera. You posted your thoughts on that, So let's 1427 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 2: get the machine going, because even before this game kicks off, 1428 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 2: thirty teams already in your offseason, trying to make your 1429 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 2: squad better, and it'll give you great fodder for your 1430 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 2: Super Bowl party. Printed out, bring one for everybody. Color 1431 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 2: code them say. You get this team, you have to 1432 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 2: figure out how to fix them. I don't know. I'm 1433 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 2: trying to find it, find some other angles. Either that 1434 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 2: or people are going to be watching the Fox pregame 1435 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,639 Speaker 2: show opposite the Puppy Bowl. So I'm trying to bring 1436 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 2: it all back to the celebration of football, just like 1437 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 2: our next guy does. It's our buddy, Isaac lowing Craft. 1438 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: He's a fountain of informationation, a fountain of wisdom, a 1439 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: man of great integrity. I think he still has the 1440 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 2: big j on his journalism. Bucky, you gotta listen to 1441 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 2: the whole show. It's our guy, Isaac. Wow Andron. 1442 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 6: Why not buy Happy Super Bowl Sunday fellow. 1443 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Bucky, can you give me a favor? 1444 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1445 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 6: I need you to text. I need you to text 1446 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 6: your guy Mike Morton. I'm having a pain in my 1447 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 6: upper bicuspid region. Can you ask him if he could 1448 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 6: squeeze me in this afternoon? 1449 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 5: You want to sign impression, but I think you're gonna 1450 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 5: have the first appointment on Monday morning. How about this? 1451 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 6: Okay, I'll take that. By the way, here's some Mike 1452 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 6: Morton trivia for you. He and his wife parents have quadruplets. Whoa, yeah, 1453 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 6: So after that, officiating in the Super Bowl is gonna 1454 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,719 Speaker 6: be That's easy, pretty easy. 1455 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 2: You can adjudicate things between the line at the line 1456 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: of scrimmage pretty easy at stuff. This might be the 1457 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 2: guy to figure out all those scrums. Bucky. 1458 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,719 Speaker 5: I didn't know that he had quas. 1459 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike, so so his wife. 1460 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 3: His wife gave birth one. 1461 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Day before he had to take his. 1462 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 3: Dental school exam. 1463 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 6: Okaya, before you want to talk about timing the timing 1464 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 6: of the NFL A ESPN reporting that as anticipated, Eagles 1465 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 6: offensive coordinator Kellen moorese said to be hired as the 1466 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 6: new head coach of the New Orleans Saints NBA. Saturday night, 1467 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Lakers announced that their trade with Charlotte 1468 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 6: to acquire Mark Williams in exchange for Dalton connect has 1469 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 6: been rescinded because of the Hornets failure to satisfy a 1470 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 6: condition of the trade. Williams reportedly failed his physical and 1471 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,720 Speaker 6: you know, fellas for the proper perspective, on really anything. 1472 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 6: The best source is Magic Johnson's tweet. 1473 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Let's go the Magic Johnson Twitter game always the best. 1474 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,759 Speaker 6: Last night, the Magic Man tweeted, quote, what a big 1475 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 6: blow to the Lakers. The trade with the Hornets is 1476 01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 6: rescinded to the Mark Williams failed physical Unquote that I 1477 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 6: excuse me at why Gotti responded quote thanks for the info, 1478 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 6: Magic at braun got it comments and quote Magic, how 1479 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 6: do you always tweet three hours after something happens? 1480 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: Unquote? 1481 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 6: Don't stop tweeting Magic anyway. All the court Saturday night, 1482 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 6: the Golden State Warriors one in Chicago, one thirty two 1483 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 6: to one eleven. Jimmy Butler scored twenty five at his 1484 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,000 Speaker 6: Golden State debut in twenty nine minutes, seven of twelve 1485 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 6: from the field, eleven of thirteen from the free throw line. 1486 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 6: Steph Curry scored thirty four and tie to season high 1487 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 6: with eight three pointers. 1488 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Guys, back to you at Isaac loewen Kron where you 1489 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 2: find him in the Twitter verse for all the latest news. 1490 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 2: And if you have a dentist that does quick emergency work, 1491 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 2: I load needs it. 1492 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 3: You know what. 1493 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 6: In other Super Bowl dentist news, Remember when Doug Williams 1494 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 6: was the MVP of Super Bowl twenty two. 1495 01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: He had to have an emergency root canal the day. 1496 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 6: Before, talking about you can't try this dentist trivia anywhere else. 1497 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 2: That also makes you feel pretty good going out and playing, though, Bucky, 1498 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 2: if you if you had to have one of those, right, 1499 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that's you get the good stuff for that 1500 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 2: for at least a week's time. 1501 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, you're nice and nice and light and ready 1502 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 5: to go and attack today after you have some of that. 1503 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 2: Stuff, feeling free and loose. Thanks, Ilo, appreciate you, all right. 1504 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks on Mike Harmon. We're here in the 1505 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. It is Super Sunday, so much 1506 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 2: to get to, so little time, all the excitement coming 1507 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,839 Speaker 2: up in twenty minutes. We got countdown to kickoff, presented 1508 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,640 Speaker 2: by Ben mgm of trying to give you the advanced 1509 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 2: notice that over the next couple of minutes you go 1510 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: get your notebook, you get your pens, you get your 1511 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 2: your markers, all those things you need. You're gonna be 1512 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 2: that much smarter for your Super Bowl party, just like 1513 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 2: you have been for these two hours. So if you 1514 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 2: haven't already been taking copious notes. We're gonna finish with 1515 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 2: the flurry as we go here at Bucky Brooks at 1516 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. It's Fox Football Sunday. One happy return for 1517 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: a defense might help Vic Fangio. We'll talk about that 1518 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 2: next as we preview the big Super Bowl licks on Fox. 1519 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, a Super Sunday 1520 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 2: here as we appreciate you being barred of the extended family. 1521 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon alongside Bucky Brooks, thanks to Chris Purfett, our 1522 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Guy Shay and of course Isaac lowenkron Car bloating for 1523 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 2: a big day here at Fox Sports Radio. As we 1524 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,919 Speaker 2: roll on, coming on in ten minutes, you got countdown 1525 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM. All the ins and 1526 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 2: outs and angles that you're looking at for your big 1527 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 2: game plays along the way, so prop bets and trying 1528 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: to read through the noise to get you to the 1529 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 2: winner circle, but also make you maybe a little more 1530 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 2: astute observer of the game that you're watching based on 1531 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 2: some of the numbers that are being proffered. And no 1532 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 2: doubt they'll talk about the color of the gatorade. Kendrick 1533 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Lamar's first song and all of those things, the important bets, Bucky, 1534 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 2: you know the ones that a lot of them that 1535 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 2: are offshore, because well you got perfect information. But certainly, 1536 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 2: you know when we talk about the color of the gatorade, 1537 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,600 Speaker 2: it gets fun. You've got the lime, you know, the 1538 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 2: traditional is the favorite in the clubhouse, and then we 1539 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 2: get to some of the exotics. At fifteen to one, 1540 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar, how many superstars I know Shay and Bottom 1541 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 2: Barrel betting had the number of outfit changes. I think 1542 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,639 Speaker 2: that was at one and a half. So you got that, Yeah, 1543 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 2: just one and a half. 1544 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, one and a half. We did the bottom that 1545 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 5: was that was the thing we bet on. 1546 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 2: You know how many how many gets don't I don't think. 1547 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 5: I don't think rappers change as much. That's why it 1548 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 5: one and a half is like tricky, Like it's different 1549 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 5: if it's Usher or somebody else, because they're like dances, 1550 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 5: they have a little more flamboyant like rappers just kind 1551 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 5: of get up there and do your thing with your 1552 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 5: white T shirt, like you don't do a whole lot. 1553 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to remember like in La right where we 1554 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 2: had everybody up there, Eminem and Snoop and everybody did 1555 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 2: they any of them go down into the trailer and 1556 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 2: change in the middle of that set. Don't recall, I 1557 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 2: was transfixed by what I was watching on the field, 1558 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 2: So it was a lot going on. Yeah, I was 1559 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 2: standing there because you know, one of the great secrets 1560 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 2: at the world that is so fine, I'll give it 1561 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: to anybody that's going to travel out here, is on 1562 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 2: the second and third levels, they've got a standing room only, 1563 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,759 Speaker 2: first come, first serve, baby. So it's a little marked 1564 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: out section at the back end of those seating areas, 1565 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 2: and as long as you can get there first, you 1566 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 2: get to stand. So guess who had a fifty yard 1567 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 2: line seat for the Super Bowl? All right, So I 1568 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 2: was standing the whole time. But I'm young and in 1569 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 2: relatively decent shape. Knees were barking a little bit afterwards, Bucky. 1570 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 2: But I got to watch that Super Bowl halftime show 1571 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 2: live and in living color. So big win for me, 1572 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 2: my big win. 1573 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:51,879 Speaker 5: It was worth it with Denise. 1574 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1575 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,639 Speaker 2: No. And the best of it though, was coming out 1576 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 2: of the game, because this is what we always talk about. 1577 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 2: You and I have had this conversation for many years 1578 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio. There's no promise that you're getting back, 1579 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 2: and I just remember Bengals fans they were happy to 1580 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 2: have participated because it was going to be the next decade. Plus. 1581 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this to shade our guy, Andy Ferman. 1582 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,599 Speaker 2: It's just a reminder. You know, a couple of years later, 1583 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 2: we've got the Eagles right back in this spot, and 1584 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,960 Speaker 2: we talked about it a little bit before. Nick Nick 1585 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 2: Sirianni and the weight that is on his shoulders, Jalen Hurts. 1586 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's been so much on Barkley and so 1587 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 2: many in the betting lines on Saquon Barkley that Jalen 1588 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Hurts kind of is a well, he's just kind of there. Defensively, 1589 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 2: you get Brandon Graham back, so that helps in some 1590 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 2: of your rotations and to have a veteran savvy on 1591 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 2: the defense for Philly. But you know, legacy plays all around. 1592 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 2: We didn't get an official prediction from you, at least 1593 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,800 Speaker 2: as long as I've been on air. So I've got 1594 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 2: the Eriza Butker difference making with the Chiefs winning this game. 1595 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 2: What do you say? 1596 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, so I'm gonna go with it. Phil Deppa Eagles. 1597 01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 5: I think I'm on record saying thirty one thirty. I 1598 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 5: want to make sure I'm consistent right there. 1599 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,440 Speaker 2: Okay, things. 1600 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 5: Look if it comes down to we seem as a 1601 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 5: more talented team to Eagles of the most talented team. 1602 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 5: But for them to win, it has to be a 1603 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 5: clean game, minimal turnovers, penalties, kicking game errors. If they 1604 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 5: take care of business there, they win. To me, the 1605 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 5: only way Kansas City wins is if Philadelphia gifts them 1606 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 5: opportunities and so. But we'll see though, because Kansas City 1607 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 5: has lived off of others mistakes it seems like for 1608 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 5: the last two years, and we'll see if they can 1609 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 5: continue to keep it going. 1610 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm right there with you, I got a 1611 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 2: thirty one twenty eight Kansas City win. Looking for a 1612 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 2: big play either at Hollywood Brown or Xavier Worthy late 1613 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 2: and then Butcker coming on to finish the deal. But 1614 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 2: that we do get a thriller in New Orleans, hopefully 1615 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 2: the lights stay on this time around. A lot of 1616 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 2: pomp and circumstance and pageantry there president in attendance as 1617 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 2: the players. My daughters were keenly aware of the Super 1618 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 2: Bowl week because that was the question going around the school. Halways, 1619 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes' response is to being asked 1620 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 2: about the arrival of President Trump that was the talking 1621 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 2: point for the Super Bowl. I'm like, let me tell 1622 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 2: you about x's and o's. Needless to say, Bucky they 1623 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 2: did not care. He's at Bucky Brooks. Find me over 1624 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. Count Down to Kickoff by NJM Next