1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay and Bucket's going right now. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: The protests in Los Angeles seem to be contained for 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: right now, although elsewhere there are reports of efforts to 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: spread this protest. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Movement, including in Texas. I've seen San Antonio. I've got 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of places that may have these protests 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: in the days ahead. So we will continue to follow 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: this very closely, and that's something that we want to 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: keep an eye on, because, yeah, it could flare up again. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I think this round has clearly 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: been a victory for not just Donald Trump and the Republicans. 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: It's just a victory for the rule of law, a 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: victory for sanity. And this is why Gavin Newsom has 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: decided as a governor of California. Wall Street journal piece 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: today Clay naming him as the leader of the opposition 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: right that this is how he's trying to position himself 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: at least, And Gavenusom gave a speech last night which 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: I think was very clearly directed at that outcome of Oh, 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Gavenusam is now the premier Democrat in America standing against Trump. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Problem is, I think the politics of this are far 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: more treacherous nationally. Not in California, sure, but nationally for 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, and maybe he even realizes, but here he is. 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: You know that you knew this was coming, that the 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: emotional blackmail, the oh my gosh, these are the best 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: people that are being arrested. 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: Why is he allowing this? 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: This is cut for Gavin Newsom addressed California, really addressed 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the nation last night. 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: Play it. 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: Trump is pulling a military dragnet all across Los Angeles, 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: well beyond his stated intent to just go after violent 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: and serious criminals. His agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers, 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: and seamstresses. That's just weakness, weakness masquerading as strength. Donald 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: Trump's government isn't protecting our communities. They're traumatizing our communities. 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: And that seems to be the entire point. If some 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: of us could be snatched off the streets without a 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: warrant based only on suspicion or skin color, then none 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: of us are safe. 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to deport Gavin Newsom. Okay, 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: this none of us are safe thing is absurd. I 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: also think Clay that it's very clear given what the 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Biden administration. Did you can't that ten million number? They 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: can't run from that and everyone knows. Okay, So you guys, 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: when you're in charge, the Democrats are in charge the 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: laws all of a sudden, the same laws that bind 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: us in so many different ways that we may or 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: may not agree with, right depends on what you're talking about. 48 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Those same laws include laws on immigration and on the 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: illegal presence that is unfortunately far too common all across 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: this country. When Gavin Newsom says this, often he goes, 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: they're arresting dishwashers and washer, et cetera. A lot of 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: people say, well, are they illegal? And if they are, 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: the answer is okay, then that's the law. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. And to me, this is not even about ice 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: or the raids or anything else. I think Gavin Newsom, 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: who is a calculated guy, has made the decision this 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: is my way to launch my twenty twenty eight presidential campaign. 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: And so remember, by January of twenty twenty seven, there 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: will be a full on presidential campaign underway. Iowa, New 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: Hampshire January February twenty twenty eight. I know it sounds 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: like it's a long time away, but all of these 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: guys are going to be raising money in the next 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: eighteen months, so that when they announced right after the 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: mid terms in January of twenty twenty seven. Heck, remember, 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: Trump himself announced in November of twenty twenty two that 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: he was going to be running for reelection, and DeSantis 67 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: really took it on the chin because he didn't announce 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: it until May of twenty twenty three that he was running. 69 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: And they tried to hold out for the Florida legislative 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: session to be over, and Trump identified DeSantis as the 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: only contender and basically started throwing punches at him immediately, 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: and DeSantis waited a long time to respond, and by 73 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: the time he did, it was over. Now, I don't 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: know once the raid happened on mar A Lago in 75 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: August of twenty two, if I'm remembering the chronology correctly, 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody could have beaten Trump to 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: be the nominee. But I think that the clear decision 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: made by Newsom here is I'm going to run anti Trump, 79 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: which is positive in the Democrat primary. This is the 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: best way for me to distinguish myself. Here's the challenge. 81 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom thinks that Americans still look to California and 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: see it as an aspirational goal. The problem is most 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: people don't see it that way anymore. And you've talked 84 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: about this, and I grew up in the same era 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: that you did, Buck where California the nineties, Yeah, was 86 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: like a place that everybody wanted to be. California in 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: the early two thousands was a place that everybody wanted 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: to be. I think running as I'm going to make 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: America more like California is a disaster. And this is 90 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: one thing that I think Ron DeSantis was right about. 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: And if we had gotten DeSantis versus Newsom in twenty 92 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: twenty four, I think that DeSantis would have won comfortably. 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: And if we get DeSantis versus Newsom in twenty twenty eight, 94 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: I think that Ron DeSantis would would win comfortably. America 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: doesn't want itself to look like California, and I think 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: that Gavin Newsom is living a generation behind in the 97 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: way that he believes America sees his state. That's to 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: me what stands out here. 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: I also think that they have done a very poor 100 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 1: job of opposing Trump in a way that would bring 101 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: over people who don't already hate Trump. Right, if you're 102 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: trying to win over anybody who hasn't been anti Trump 103 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: all along, they're all the stuff that they're saying about this, 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: I think is creating a bigger problem for them in 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Here's here's an example. 107 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Cuomo, who maybe the next governor of New York City. 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: This is cut twenty nine. This is now going over 109 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: to New York. I'm saying to say, governor, mayor, mayor 110 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: of New York City, former governor of New York, mayor 111 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: of New York City. Although this other guy we'll talk 112 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: to our New York experts here later on about this, 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: the Democrat primer. But here is the former governor of 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: New York saying something that I think you all need 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: to hear. This goes into the diversity is our Strength 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: situation play twenty nine. 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: We are the capital of diversity. 118 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: One and eighty languages spoken in our school system. 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: Eighty different languages, people from all across the world. 120 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: That makes us stronger, not weaker. 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: That is actually not a good thing play. It does 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: not make think about this. I understand people say, oh, 123 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: but buck people from the world and it's so amazing. 124 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: English as a second language instruction is a huge problem 125 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: in a lot of public schools, an enormous strain on resources. 126 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: And there are the kids who speak English are having 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: a tough enough time getting to proficiency. You're bringing kids 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: from all over the world who come from non English 129 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm not talking about parents who show 130 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: up who speak English. I'm talking with people whose parents 131 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: speak very little, if any, English, are on public assistance 132 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: of some kind, which we know they can get in 133 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: New York, we know they can get in California. 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: Now they're in the school system. And now you're trying. 135 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: To teach them the skills and particularly you know, the 136 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: the language skills necessary to operate at fifth grade, eighth grade, 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: second grade. 138 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: High school, whatever it may be. 139 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Enormously slows down the rest of the class, enormously obstructs 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and costs more in learning. 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: But this is the thing, Oh one hundred and any 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: languages are spoken. 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: One thing that I want the trumpet. Maybe you can 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: bring us up tomorrow. English is the national language. English 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: as the national language, full stop. And I live in 146 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: South Florida. I gotta tell you, I love my South Florida. 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: But we need more English as the national language down 148 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: there too. This is something that unites us on how 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: can you understand the law, truly understand the law in 150 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: this country if you don't speak. 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: English, you can't. And I mean I would just go 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: back to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel. 153 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the goal of building a great building in 154 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: the Bible was destroyed by the number of languages that 155 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: suddenly everybody had to speak. And this is this is 156 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: why baanal commentary like diversity is our strength is actually 157 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: not true, right, And what I mean by that is 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: diversity of thought is a strength. But in order to 159 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: communicate that diversity of thought, you have to be able 160 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: to speak a common language. So in order to have 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: diversity as a strength, there has to be an agreement 162 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: on its baseline foundational levels that are allow the communication 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: to take place. And I don't think it's a bad 164 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: thing to have kids learning English. I think the problem 165 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: that you're speaking of, Buck is there are a lot 166 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: of people who come to America and aren't bothering to 167 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: learn English. They aren't trying to assimilate in some way 168 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: to speak with the larger community around them. And one 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty different languages. How in the world can 170 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: a public school accommodate that kind of diversity of language 171 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: when it comes to being able to instruct everybody. And so, look, 172 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: I understand what Mayor Cuomo is trying to say. By 173 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: the way, he's running for president in twenty twenty eight 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: by winning. 175 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but New York City last year had, by their 176 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: own assessments, fifty percent proficiency at grade level in reading 177 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: and math. 178 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 179 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: So half of New York City public school kids to 180 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: be not proficient based on these public school standards means 181 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: you are way below where you need to be. This 182 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: is not that's remember, proficiency is not I'm getting an A. 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm good. Yeah. 184 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Proficiency means you can operate at that level generally speaking, 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: So to be non proficient. And so in that situation, 186 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: you grow up, you're a you're a kid, you're a 187 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: Latino American kid, you're a Black American kid in poor 188 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: parts of New York City, and you're you know, you 189 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: want more attention, you want more resources, you want a 190 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: better shot. And then you've got the illegal migrants who 191 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: are showing up one hundred and fifty thousand of them 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: in one year in New York. I think was that 193 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: it was the height of it and then they're all 194 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: going into the school system. Of course that's going to 195 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: slow things down. Of course that's going to make the 196 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: budgets of the school system more strained than they already are. 197 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: You know, they get a lot of money. But that's 198 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: a whole other conversation. And it's just this is basic 199 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: common sense. What other country Clay is prancing around and 200 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: talking about how great it is or what are their politicians? 201 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Maybe some place in Europe that are the same problems 202 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: we do. But you don't have this anywhere else in 203 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the world where they say, you know what, we want 204 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: as many people as possible to show up here who 205 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: don't speak the language and know nothing about this place. 206 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: Let's get that going on. Well, I think the challenge 207 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: too is you said that they're saying fifty percent of 208 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: New York City kids are proficient and reading in math. 209 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: One of the big problems we have in America today 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: is that we continue to define standards of proficiency down. 211 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: So it's not only that let's say fifty percent of 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: kids are proficient, it's that proficiency in twenty twenty four 213 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty five is quite a lot different than 214 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: proficiency in nineteen eighty four and nineteen eighty and by 215 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: the way, that's actually the way they shared that statistic. 216 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: A third of New York City fourth graders last year 217 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: we're proficient in math, one third proficient, two thirds not 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: proficient at the fourth grade level. And once you get 219 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: behind at those, look we can I don't want to 220 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: make this just an education discussion, but the point here 221 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: is people recognize there are very This is why the 222 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: bussing people to Democrats strongholds. Okay, fine, you want to 223 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: play this game, go to New York, go to Chicago. 224 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: Let those cities deal with it. This is what Governor 225 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: Abbott did in Texas. Ron de Santis did some of 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: this as well in Florida, and it was fine, you 227 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: take these illegals. Yes, they are very much a drain 228 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: on public resources, and there are people that need those 229 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: resources who are saying, what's going on here? Why are 230 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: we devoting this to people who aren't even supposed to 231 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: be in the country in the first place, no doubt. 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: And again I think the under sort of the foundational 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: story that's going on here is you're already starting to 234 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: see aggressive jockeying to win the Democrat primary. Prepare yourselves. 235 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: If Andrew Cuomo wins the mayorship of New York City, 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: and I think he will, He's going to run for 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: president in twenty twenty eight. This is his redemption arc. 238 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: He can say the people of New York forced him 239 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: out as governor. He's already saying he shouldn't have left, 240 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: that he did naturally sexually harass anybody. He's gonna say 241 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: that's in the past. I've done a great job as mayor. 242 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what his argument's gonna be. And 243 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom is coming against Trump because he's gonna run. 244 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: They're all setting up for that primary, and you're gonna 245 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: have New York top official Cathy Hokals out. You know, 246 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer's not running. Maybe AOC will vote for me. 247 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: I will no longer grab you around the waist or 248 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: kiss you strangely on the side of the face. 249 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: That is Andrew Cuomo on the show right now. Let 250 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: me also point this out, Buck AOC endorsed Andrew Cuomo's 251 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: top arrival. 252 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: They want to talk about a guy who keeps who 253 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: holds grudges. Cuomo famously to a nasty infighter in politics 254 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: who holds a grudge for it. 255 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: But don't mistake that's not because she cares who the 256 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: mayor of New York City is. That's because she wants 257 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: to cut Andrew Cuomo's legs out from underneath him, because 258 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: if he doesn't get elected mayor, she's the forefront New 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: York national candidate in twenty twenty eight. So sometimes you 260 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: have to look at not just the text, but the 261 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: subtext of what's going on. And I think you're already 262 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: seeing the political jockeying for who is going to run 263 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: in twenty eight. And by the way, you know what 264 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: Kevin Newsom will say. He'll say Trump is the worst 265 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: human who's ever existed in the Democrat primary. If he 266 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: were the nominee, you know what he tried to do. 267 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: He'd tried to say. You know, Trump actually got a 268 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: lot right when he ran for president in twenty twenty eight. 269 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: I had a good relationship with him. That's the pivot 270 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: that you would immediately see. Sprint to the left, become 271 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: the Democrat you get elected anti Trump, sprint back to 272 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: the center. Trump had good ideas, but I can implement 273 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: some of them to appeal to moderate voters. He wasn't 274 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: actually the antichrist he wasn't actually Hitler, but first you 275 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: have to say he's the Antichrist and he's Hitler. It's 276 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: so predictable, But I think it's important to not just 277 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: pay attention to what's being said, look behind what's being 278 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: said here. Look, we don't talk about it all the 279 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: time because it's not an easy conversation to have, uh. 280 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: But the will and trust universe is incredibly important if 281 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: you don't want to burden your family members when your 282 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: life passes. You know so many times out there you 283 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: focus on trying to make the life easier for your kids, 284 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: for your grandkids. And you're doing that because you're working 285 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: all the time. You're doing that because you are trying 286 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: to pay off that mortgage, You're trying to set up 287 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: the college funds. You're trying to do everything you can 288 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: to help your kids and grandkids. But are you taking 289 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: care of tying up all the loose ends so your 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: kids and your grandkids don't end up fighting after you pass. 291 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: The best thing you can do is have a very 292 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: defined will a trust document that lays out for the 293 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: people who you are caring about the most in your 294 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: life so they don't end up fighting after you're gone, 295 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: so that you are continuing to think about them even 296 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: while you are alive today. And a lot of people 297 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: just don't do that. 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That's 316 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: Trust and Will dot Com. 317 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Miranda Devine here coming up shortly about 318 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: her sit down with President Trump and looking forward to 319 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: diving into all of that with her. Always a fun 320 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: conversation there. We've also got some other stories. We're gonna 321 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: be diving. If you want to take your talkbacks and 322 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: your calls, remember talkback, go to the iHeart app, which 323 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: you should have, and the talkback phone number eight eight 324 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: eight hundred two Way two two eight A two is 325 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: our phone. 326 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: Number to call into. Of course you know that. 327 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: And we will dive into all that here coming up shortly. 328 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: And Clay might even have a sports idea that we're 329 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: we're starting to bandy about that we could get into. 330 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: But you have to stick around for this one. We've 331 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: got some got some wild thought. 332 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Did you you offered already what was it? Two hundred 333 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: and fifty k to somebody? 334 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: I challenged Angel Reese one hundred k me versus herd 335 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: of fifteen by ones and two. We have to we 336 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: have to talk. We have to have more of a 337 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: conversation here. 338 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: This is I mean, and there might be some torn 339 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: acls in our future, but we've got some ideas. 340 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to get into this. 341 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Look there are some states, and there are certainly some 342 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: countries that already have what you call a sovereign wealth fund. Right, 343 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: that's an asset that helps pay out a lot of 344 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: the people who live in that place. And there are 345 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: some out there who believe the United States has such 346 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: an asset that it could tap into could be worth 347 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: as much as one hundred and fifty trillion dollars. Look, 348 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: this is some pretty out there interesting stuff from Jim 349 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Rickard's former advisor to the White House in Federal Reserve. 350 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: He says, if you're over fifty, this could be a 351 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: great chance to build lasting wealth from a once in 352 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: a century event. Could be some really smart investment opportunities 353 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: that Jim wants to bring to your attention based on 354 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: the possibility of an American sovereign wealth fund. Go to 355 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Birthright twenty twenty five dot com to hear more about this. 356 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: That's birthright twenty twenty five dot com. If Jim's right, 357 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: it could make Trump the most popular president in history 358 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: and help millions retire wealthy. Go to Birthright twenty twenty 359 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: five dot com. Paid for by Paradigm Press. 360 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: We're joined now by Miranda Devine. I think it's probably 361 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: fairnesas all. We got Carol Markowitz too. I was going 362 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: to give you the title of our favorite person at 363 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: the New York Post, but we really like Carol Markowitz too, 364 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: So I don't want to offend anybody out there. Miranda, 365 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: you just had to sit down with President Trump in 366 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: the Oval Office. It is ricocheting about the internet now, 367 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: and there are many different things. I know that he 368 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: told you what stood out to you the most about 369 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: the interview that you had with President Trump from a 370 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: news perspective. 371 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks so much. And Carole is great. She's a 372 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: maid of mine, so I'm glad you like us both. Look, 373 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: don Trump was just incredibly generous with his time and 374 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: also his candor. He is just so frank, you know 375 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 5: sometimes like when we talked about Camp, David couldn't really 376 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 5: he said, I can't really talk about it. Off did 377 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: say that they'd been talking about, you know, obviously Iran 378 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: and Russia. He gave you know, a lot of insights 379 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: into his conversations with world leaders, his problems with Elon. 380 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: He's sort of open to reconciliation, but you know, not 381 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: right now. 382 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: He's too busy. 383 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: And also some of his childhood experiences you know his 384 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 5: father bundled them off to military school at thirteen because 385 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 5: he was so rambunctious, and his father wasn't terribly thrilled 386 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 5: when they got back some aptitude test scores for. 387 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: We might have just lost her there for a minute. 388 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: Sounded like she popped out. I hope that doesn't mean 389 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 3: that we've popped out. So I'm going to keep talking 390 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 3: until the team tells me whether or not we've popped out. 391 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: But Buck, this is Miranda Devine the podcast called air 392 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: Pod one and it is underway right now, and I 393 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: do think it speaks to a pod Force one. Sorry 394 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: is the name of her podcast. She's back with us 395 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: right now. Miranda, you popped out right there. You were 396 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: talking about Donald Trump talking about his dad shipping him 397 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: off to military school, and that's where we lotched you. 398 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: What did he talk about there? 399 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: So, yeah, his dad just shipped him off to military 400 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 5: school at age thirteen because he was so rambunciously. He 401 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 5: wanted to get him straightened out a bit. And also 402 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 5: his parents sent him off to aptitude testing when he 403 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: was a young boy, and his father was not altogether 404 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: thrilled to find out that Donald Trump's genius is musical. 405 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: He is a musical genius. Apparently he can pick a 406 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: nose and remember it, you know, an hour later. So 407 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 5: he sort of laughed Riley and said, well, you know, 408 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: that wasn't really a talent my father particularly wanted me 409 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 5: to have, but his mother got him too. After that, 410 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 5: learn a musical instrument and you will never guess what 411 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: it was. 412 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: Well, yes, we had played the audio already. Oh yeah, 413 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: and the memes are rolling in because I have been 414 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: attacking men who play. 415 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Has been attacking male flute players. You leave the ladies 416 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: out of this, but male flute players, he decides, Miranda, 417 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: there's there's. 418 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Some questions, just Clay's asking questions. 419 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: I asked them so many questions for some of our 420 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: flute playing audience. 421 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: If you have a choice to play any instrument in 422 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 3: the world, and you picked the flute, you have chosen 423 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 3: very poorly, and I think that you cannot be trusted 424 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 3: for anything serious. Now. Trump said he might have had 425 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: a great flute playing future, but instead he gave that 426 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: up and became a multi billionaire developer. I give him 427 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: credit for abandoning the flute. 428 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 5: And President, well, he said he didn't like it, so 429 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 5: his mother had sensed all these instructors to the house 430 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 5: to get him taught to play the flute, but he 431 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: did not want to play the flute, so that didn't 432 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: last for very long. And I mean, it's just amusing. 433 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: Of all the instruments, I can't think one that's less 434 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: appropriate to Donald Trump. 435 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: By the way, he and Lizzo could have been out 436 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: their play in the was it the James Madison Donald Trump. 437 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: Could have single handedly rehabilitated the whole flute image among 438 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: the among the orchestral instrument and would wind community. So 439 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a loss here for us, Miranda, 440 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: because I think that Trump could have you know, he 441 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: could have made flutes great again, and instead he decided 442 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: to become president and try to save the free world. 443 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: How how is it? 444 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, this is one of these things where Trump 445 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: talks I think to enough people, and you know, we 446 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: hear how he feels on a lot of these policy 447 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: things enough that we're pretty up to date, pretty in tune, 448 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: if you will, with what his thinking is on a 449 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of things. But in terms of his poise, the 450 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: sense that this time around he learned a lot the 451 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: first time. I mean, just take us into his mindset 452 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit from sitting down with him, and and 453 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: and what you felt like you were gathering from this 454 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: guy who still has the weight of the world on 455 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: his shoulders but always seems calm, cool and collected that 456 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: when he's a little angry. 457 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: But you know, for the most part, yeah, he is. 458 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 5: And it's that confidence and sort of New York swagger 459 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 5: that he's just had. He's really as far as back 460 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 5: as he can remember. He says, it's just he does. 461 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 5: You know, I said, you sort of act against the 462 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: grain quite often. And he says, well, you know, I've 463 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 5: got the hat that says Trump was always right, But 464 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: he says, I just it's I don't feel. 465 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: I'm a rebel. 466 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 5: I just have an innate sense of what's the right 467 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 5: thing to do, and I do it, and I don't 468 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: really care what other people say. And he said, for instance, 469 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 5: he pointed to the la riots, and you know, last 470 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: time he sort of regretted in twenty twenty that he 471 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 5: wasn't as forceful. But he said, at the time, well, 472 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: I just thought, really I would leave it to the 473 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: governors to make those decisions. But obviously the Blue states, 474 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: the blue governors did not do that. Whether it was 475 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: because they thought that they, you know, it would be 476 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: a great way of beating Donald Trump at the polls 477 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: later that year, which I guess worked. But this time round, 478 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: he said, this is a much more consequential presidency. He 479 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: feels it because, well, in part, he said, because he's got. 480 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Did we lose her again? I think we might have 481 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: lost it again. I'm back. 482 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very sorry about it. My stupid phone. And yeah, 483 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 5: he just feels like, you've got a better team more 484 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 5: more like he said that I had some stars last time, 485 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: but I also had some losers, And. 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: Yes, category did. 487 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: And it's important that he recognized that, I think, Miranda. 488 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: And one of the challenges early on was Trump was 489 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: this political phenomen talking about term one, you know, first 490 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: first administration. He's this political phenomenon. But a lot of 491 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: us who were who voted for Trump in twenty sixteen, 492 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: who were excited about it, some of the people that 493 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: were in charge, whether it was the mooch or some 494 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: of the others that got into that administration, we all 495 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: knew right away, well, this. 496 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: Is not a good you know, this is not a 497 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: good idea. 498 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 499 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: And Trump realized that and this time around, I look 500 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: at the team that he picked, and I think it's 501 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: not just that we think it's good. The results, the speed, 502 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the efficiency with which they're moving on the agenda is 503 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: the you know, at this stage at least they still 504 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: have a lot to do. But that is the result 505 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: of somebody, or those are the actions of somebody who 506 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I think clearly learned a lot on the job the 507 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: first time around and came ready to play day one 508 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: this time. 509 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 5: Yes, and he said that, he in fact said, you know, 510 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: having that four years in between, I mean, he could 511 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 5: not have been more negative about Joe Biden and how 512 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: he destroyed the country, but he said, people saw how 513 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 5: bad it was, and you know, he'd fix the border, 514 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: but he got no credit for it. But this time 515 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: he's absolutely determined to undo the damage and he's confident 516 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: that he will be able to do it. He's very 517 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 5: bullish on the economy and his big beautiful bill. He says, well, 518 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: he says only phase one. He's got other things to do, 519 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 5: and he reckons that the economic boost that it will 520 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: give us will pay for they'll be able to start 521 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: paying down the debt, so you know, and that was 522 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: sort of ripoffed to Elon and he's just very bullish 523 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 5: and confident. The only thing I did pick up was, 524 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 5: you know, he's he's disappointed about Iran. He said he 525 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: really thought they were going to get the deal done, 526 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 5: but just the last few days he's realized. He said, 527 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 5: they've changed. And I asked, what do you mean they've changed? 528 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 5: And he wouldn't really be drawn on that, but he 529 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 5: just said he felt that they wanted to do a 530 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: deal before. Now he's not so sure. But either way, 531 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 5: he said, they're not getting a nuclear bomb. They are not. 532 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: That's not happening, and you know, it can either happen 533 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 5: the nice way or he really doesn't want people to die, 534 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 5: but they're not getting the nuclear bomb. 535 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: Where does this go in your mind? The Elon Trump 536 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: relationship a lot of drama Trump. Elon apologized to Trump 537 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: publicly last night, it seems, and I bet you felt 538 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: kind of the same way that Trump has been somewhat 539 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: restrained in his response to Elon. And there's reports out 540 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: there that he basically considers Elon to be fifty percent 541 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: genius fifty percent boy kid, and I do think there's 542 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: some truth to that as well. How would you assess 543 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: where this goes from here. 544 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely spot on. I mean, he does you know. 545 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: I think I got the impression when they was still 546 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 5: in good company together that Trump was fascinated by him 547 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 5: because of his success and I guess he's brilliance, and 548 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: so he was sort of watching him and looking at 549 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: him and engaged in conversation with him, but listening very intently, 550 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 5: almost like you look at an insect under the glass. 551 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 5: You know, it's not in a mean way, in a 552 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: nice way. I mean, he's quite paternal with him. I 553 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 5: felt Elon Musk treated Donald Trump as a father figure, 554 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: which is really why it's so sad that it's all 555 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 5: blown up. Look, I asked Donal Trump a few times 556 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: about Elon, and he said, look, I don't bear any 557 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 5: ill will towards him. But I am just too busy 558 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: fixing the world. I'm not thinking about him. And you know, 559 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: I believe, you know, Elon may have tried to reach 560 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 5: out a couple of times or you know, I don't 561 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: know a bit, not that Donald Trump told me that, 562 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 5: but I heard that somewhere else and we and I 563 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: think that he's just letting him cool off. And I 564 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: don't know that Donald Trump will ever be able to 565 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: have that same very close relationship because Elon, even though 566 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: he's apologized, he kind of broke something. 567 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are things you can't say. 568 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: I think we all just know this from our own lives, 569 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: whether it's to your spouse or to a colleague or 570 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: a close friend. 571 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: There are lines, and. 572 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: He definitely crossed some lines that are that I don't 573 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: think we'll be able to be undone. But I also 574 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: think that they'll collaborate as needed in the future, but 575 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: from a more shall we say, professional distance and less 576 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: of almost like adopted sun status, which is what Elon. 577 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: It felt like Elon was getting there for a while. 578 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: Yes, And I mean Elon's own father was so disastrous 579 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: for him. I think that's a need that he has. 580 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 5: And you know, it was a real romance. I mean, 581 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: he was sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom. He really admired 582 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: Donald Trump enormously and it was almost a childlike from 583 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: my observation, and certainly I think that's the where Donald 584 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: Trump felt. But you know, you just can't go back. 585 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: And maybe it's a lesson that Elon will have. But look, 586 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: Donald Trump is showing that he's not going to be 587 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 5: nasty to Elon, and he really could have. Normally he 588 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 5: strikes back quite unkindly, but he also is quite a 589 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: sensitive man. I think he has insight into other people's feelings, 590 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: and I think he knew that Elon was sort of 591 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 5: in a bit of a manic phase and would regret 592 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 5: what he'd said, which obviously he has because he's tweeted posting, 593 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you wouldn't want to be Elon. 594 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: Well. 595 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: People can go listen to the full interview of Podforce 596 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: one correct, Podforce one, Yes, Podforce one with Miranda Devine. 597 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Go check it out where we get your podcast. 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No surprise here a lot of you weighing 634 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: in on Clay's idea that he could beat a w 635 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: NBA player. Uh, and people are fired up about this. Clay, 636 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: I've got to say. 637 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: I could beat a big woman, and I'm not insulting 638 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: a big women by saying that he means tall. Yes, 639 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: not like Burley, not like obese, although I do think 640 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: fat women would have a tough time with dig is 641 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: the preferred uh, like a four or a five, A 642 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: power forward or a sinner. A big woman meaning tall, 643 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 3: I think that they can't handle the ball and I 644 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: can't shoot. I would beat Angel Reese one on one. 645 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: I offered one hundred thousand dollars and a head to 646 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: head matchup. That's more than she makes to play a 647 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 3: whole year in the WNBA, and. 648 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: She blocked me. Okay, on total we have we had 649 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: not in real life for half the dose of sanity. 650 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: Here from cc a podcast listener named Charles. He wanted 651 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this idea. 652 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: Play it, play buck love the show, but Clay, you 653 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: cannot be angel. 654 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 3: I would love to see that though. 655 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: I think I honestly would love it. Like I'll throw 656 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: money into this pot too. I'm excited about this idea. 657 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: I think if I trained, I would smoke her. My 658 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: eighth grade son, his basketball team they offered to put 659 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: me through. This would be a good documentary. They were 660 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna put me through training. They're pretty good. I think 661 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: they got some future d one. What are your let's tall? 662 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: It so so my moves back in the day, I 663 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: like to go to the hoop. Yeah I was a shooter, 664 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: but I like to go to the hoop. I was 665 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: a big double pump lay up guy. That was my favorite. 666 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: If you had an old man, white man game. 667 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're young. I was big into boxing out. 668 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: You know I do that boxing out. The coach would 669 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: always be excited if you did that. Uh, but what 670 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: was your coach? Are you a skyhook guy? 671 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Because I would I would so First of all, I'm 672 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: forty six now, so my biggest concern about a one 673 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 3: on one matchup, and I'm just talking about half blowing 674 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: out your ACL probably oh yeah, or a bad sprained 675 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: ankle and not being able to finish the game. I 676 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: don't think Angel Reese makes about thirty five percent of 677 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: her shots, and I understand some of those are contested. 678 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: She's not shooting more than five feet away from the basket. 679 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: I don't think she could make contested shots against me. Now, 680 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: I am concerned for. 681 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: The point guards or the shooting guards who can handle 682 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: the basketball. I think they could get to the basket 683 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: and make step back shots on me. I don't think 684 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Angel Reese could score on me. That's way to get 685 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: to the old man hipcheck. 686 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You got to throw that 687 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: weight around a little bit. I mean Angel Reese is six'. 688 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: THREE i am six. FOOT i bet we probably jump 689 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 3: about the same. Height it's like she's gonna dunk on. 690 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: ME i THINK i. 691 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: Could box her. OUT i Think i'm a better outside 692 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: shooter Than Angel. Reese and IF i got video of 693 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: you popping the, dame IF i can see if you 694 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: actually can, shoot IF i got to play with the 695 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: girl sized, basketball which is. SMALLER i could pault that 696 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: thing Like I'm shaquille. O'Neal i would make a lot 697 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: of outside shots if it's like A papa. Shot remember 698 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: When Ted cruz Played Jimmy. Kimmel i'll tell YOU i 699 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: would Smoke Jimmy kimmel in one on. One you think 700 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: you could Beat Jimmy kimmel on one on? 701 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: One, yes, okay, now all, right all, right, YEAH i 702 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: THINK i THINK i would Beat. Genn next question is 703 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 3: you Versus. TED i THINK i THINK i would Beat Ted. 704 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: Kruz did you hear That Senator cruz? Paiging Senator cruz