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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Excited to be

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Speaker 1: in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and also in San Francisco, believe

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Speaker 1: skiing with the family. I do not ski, Buck, but

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Speaker 1: Laura Travis is an adroit, adept skier, and so are

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Speaker 2: So anyway, they were out on the slopes. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I met a lot of our listeners all over Steamboat

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Speaker 1: evidently for a lot of Clay and Buck listeners. So

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Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun, really cool place I'd

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Speaker 1: So thanks for all the hospitality in Colorado. It was funny. Buck,

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Speaker 1: my oldest, we were in San Francisco. We went all

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Speaker 2: I visited you in Nashville recently and.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get fully out of the entryway of

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Speaker 2: Listeners want to take a photo right away.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, this is God's country, obviously it

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Speaker 1: is clearly, so I appreciate everybody out there. We also

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Speaker 1: want to welcome right off the top here dozens and

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Speaker 1: We've added hundreds since this show started in June of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We have surpassed five hundred affiliate stations now,

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Speaker 1: which is a huge number in all fifty states. And again,

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Speaker 1: listening for the first time in many different parts of

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Speaker 1: want to welcome you. We try to have a good

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Speaker 1: are ecstatic to be adding all of you that are

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of fun with you. Let's

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Speaker 1: dive into some of the stories that are out there.

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Speaker 1: By the way, our friend Congressman Jim Jordan will join

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Speaker 1: us at the top of the third hour for the

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Speaker 1: absolute latest on the budget machinations. I'm sure you talked

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Speaker 1: quite a lot about this last week, Buck, as we

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Speaker 1: every six months or so have the will they or

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Speaker 1: all gets resolved. He's also trying to get Congress to

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Speaker 1: move on clarifying that one district court judge cannot just

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Speaker 1: could paralyze the government, and we're seeing attempts to do

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Speaker 1: that end. He can speak about that, he will. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked, We told everybody this is important. I think

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Speaker 1: take away President Trump's executive authority. And ultimately we are

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Speaker 1: headed for a I think monstrous decision from the Supreme

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Speaker 1: fair for those of us who are legal nerds, is

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Speaker 1: a dispute and a debate that has been occurring all

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Speaker 1: So I think we are headed for a blockbuster Supreme

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Speaker 1: Buck is going to fill out a bracket. The NCUBA

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Speaker 1: Tournament is set. Congratulations to fans of the Florida Gators,

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Speaker 1: one seeds. My University of Tennessee, fifth overall, top two

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Speaker 1: most NCAA Tournament teams, including bucks wife's alma mater, the

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Speaker 1: Now, The difference in carrying me is Carrie always roots

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Speaker 1: who don't know, Buckett never been to a college football

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Speaker 1: Almost all of you out there listening right now, I

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Speaker 1: got the Florida Gators winning the NCAA Tournament. I think

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Speaker 1: they are the best team in college basketball right now.

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Speaker 1: But we will post our brackets for you at Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck. Buckett never filled out a bracket?

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Speaker 2: Did you do it? Last year?

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Speaker 1: Was the first time that you had ever filled out

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Speaker 2: Is correct? Last year or the year before was first time?

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Speaker 1: So Saint John's, Saint John's New York City also a

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go into this story, Buck, because I

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Speaker 2: Fascinating in many ways.

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Speaker 1: After the twenty twenty four election loss, you and I

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Trump wins the popular vote. He wins the

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Speaker 1: They got their message out. They tried to argue, oh,

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Speaker 1: we have a messaging problem, not a message problem, right,

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Speaker 1: In other words, people aren't hearing our arguments. That's why

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Speaker 1: I want to let you hear this. Both NBC News

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party has never been in the history of all

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Speaker 1: cn Repole poll results. This is on air CNN saying

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Speaker 1: staggering brutal reality of Democrat disapproval.

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Speaker 3: Brand new exclusive CNN poll that paints a brutal reality

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Speaker 3: to President Trump. American's favorable views of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's CNN and might say, Okay, maybe this is

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Speaker 1: acting them right now. But NBC also had a staggering result,

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Speaker 1: and they talked about it on your favorite show, Morning Joe.

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Speaker 1: This is Mika Brzhinski saying the Democrat Party has never

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the new polling that shows the Democratic

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Speaker 4: Party has preached an all time low in popularity. The

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Speaker 4: That's the party's lowest rating in NBC News polling dating

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think there are a lot of reasons why

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Speaker 1: this before. Yes, they just lost, but they lost in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and that was emotionally devastating for them. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: right away, I mean after election Day, the maniacs were

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Speaker 1: in New York City hashtag resistance. We're gonna do everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess what.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop his agenda really now. The only thing

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Speaker 1: they've been able to do is with the judges. They

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Speaker 1: pay the price for standing in the way of the

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Speaker 1: I have not seen anything like this since Obama beat

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Speaker 1: things got going very quickly. Maybe the Democrats will get

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Speaker 1: their act together this time around, Clay, But I think

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Speaker 2: You ain't imagining it.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: A big deal. This is from his truth social Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 1: The pardons that sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect

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Speaker 1: much more severe punishments for some of the particularly the leadership,

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Speaker 1: but it was decided, well, no, we're going to bring

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Speaker 1: the country together, and so there was clemency, there were pardons,

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Speaker 1: there were decisions made.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can.

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Speaker 1: See how at baseline there is a need for presidential pardon,

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Speaker 1: or rather why people would think there's a need for

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Speaker 1: presidential pardons. What about if somebody just started saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: what anybody who works for me, you get a you

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Speaker 1: get a total get out of jail free card for

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Speaker 1: anything you've done over the last ten years.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that okay?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you just write something that says I

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden or have somebody else write it and pretend

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Speaker 1: they're Joe Biden. I Joe Biden hereby sweep away any

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Speaker 1: crime committed by any member of my administration for the

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Speaker 1: last decade?

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Speaker 2: Are anyone who worked for me in you know, in

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Speaker 2: in the White House?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that the use of pardon power? I mean, there

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Speaker 1: have to be some limits. And I think that when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about preemptive to your point, preemptive pardoning. Is

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Speaker 1: this also goes to can the president pardon himself? Legitimate

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Speaker 1: questions that people have been asking for a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again, I don't know that very many people have

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Speaker 1: really spent a lot of time on it. You and

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Speaker 1: I talked about it because I think it's such an

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Speaker 1: interesting question.

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Speaker 2: Also, it presumes guilt. That's the other aspect of this.

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Speaker 1: If I said to you, if I said right now,

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Speaker 1: if the President called me up and he was like, Clay,

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Speaker 1: you need a pardon for the last decade of your activities.

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Speaker 1: I would say, no, I don't think that I've done

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Speaker 1: anything that would be criminal in nature. When you pardon

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Speaker 1: the entire p number of your family, it suggests that

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Speaker 1: there have been a lot of criminal actions that have

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Speaker 1: occurred when you are doing it preemptively. Again, you and

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Speaker 1: I were not surprised. A lot of the nation was

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Speaker 1: when Hunter Biden got his pardon. But the pardon for

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Speaker 1: the conviction that Hunter Biden got in Delaware and also

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Speaker 1: for his tax related charges, is very, very valid in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Right, you might not agree with it, but

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Speaker 1: the president's authority to pardon in that context seems quite clear.

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Speaker 2: Legally.

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Speaker 1: Does the president have the ability to just say to

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Speaker 1: his brother, hey, you're protected from all crimes for the

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Speaker 1: last decade.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Does the president have the ability to say, for Liz

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Speaker 1: Cheney or doctor Fauci or any of these other individuals, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're protected for the last decade from any charges that

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Speaker 1: any future administration might try to put on on you. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not constitutionally permissible.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: It also creates a a real sense that some people

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Speaker 1: are above the law because there can't even be any

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Speaker 1: public feeling about what somebody is being pardoned for if

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Speaker 1: it's a sweeping pardon that. I mean, here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Could you be pardoned for any future, un yet future,

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Speaker 1: not yet described or committed acts. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody will be okay with that, because

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Speaker 1: now you're just saying that somebody hasn't there's no legal

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Speaker 1: authority of the federal government over an American citizen. So

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Speaker 1: clearly it can't be any future act that you commit.

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Speaker 1: It would have to be a thing already done. And

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Speaker 1: I do think there is grounds to say you have

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Speaker 1: to at least say what the thing is, right, because

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Speaker 1: what happened here was, for example, Hunter Biden was pardoned.

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Speaker 1: It should have it should have had to say Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden has pardoned for tax evasion, for you know, for bribery,

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Speaker 1: for money laundering, you know, for the following things, and

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Speaker 1: you know, instead the system. I mean, maybe that's not

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Speaker 1: how it's generally done, but I think that's how it

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Speaker 1: should be done. You have to you should have to

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Speaker 1: be pardoned for a thing that people are aware of.

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Speaker 1: It can't just be like, yeah, you're good, nothing you

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Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, you know, I mean think

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Speaker 1: about that as well. You could find out in the

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Speaker 1: case of Hunter Biden, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some stuff went on that we don't even know

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Speaker 1: about that was really bad, and then you can't you

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Speaker 1: can't charge them for that either. It's it's not I

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Speaker 1: am confident that this is not permissible, and it's why

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Speaker 1: I said I would challenge it. To me, the auto

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Speaker 1: pen thing is an additional layer to it, but to me,

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Speaker 1: it feels much more worthy of legal challenge to try

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Speaker 1: to argue, hey, this is one hundred percent permissive. So

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Speaker 1: do you think Trump is going to see this one through?

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Speaker 1: Do you think do you think he's he's real deal

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Speaker 1: on this one he wants to push this. I think

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Speaker 1: it actually is less likely to be Trump who is

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Speaker 1: die hard on this, But I do think there are

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Speaker 1: some people in the administration who see this legally as

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Speaker 1: being untenable and want to challenge it going forward. It also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is the opposite of executive overreach. You know,

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Speaker 1: all the people who were saying, oh Trump's a fascist,

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Speaker 1: Oh Trump's a dictator. No, the dictator would be the

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Speaker 1: person who's saying, hey, all, my whole family is protected

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Speaker 1: from criminal charges for a decade. I'm signing this as

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Speaker 1: I go out. I bet Joe Biden actually signed the

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden pardon, by the way, really question also on

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into and a couple of thanks

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Speaker 1: here on the border situation. First off, Tom Holman trying

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Speaker 1: did not sound like I have a man crush on

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Speaker 1: Tom Holman. But he is doing phenomenal work, and he's

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Speaker 1: the right man for the job, and he's a patriot

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Speaker 1: who's serving his country incredibly well.

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Speaker 2: Uh here he is. When a reporter asks about this.

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Speaker 1: Alien acts, a law that has been used to send

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Speaker 1: these trend to Aragua guys out. A reporter asked Tom

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Speaker 1: Holman about the two hundred year old law that's what

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Speaker 1: he said twenty.

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Speaker 8: Eight claims year old law to circumvent law not as

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Speaker 8: old as constitution.

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Speaker 1: We still pay attention to that, don't we. I like

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Speaker 1: that it's not as old as the Constitution, and we

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Speaker 1: still care about that. Clay notice old law like the

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Speaker 1: Logan Act to jam up which was never used and

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Speaker 1: is actually probably unconstitutional on it in itself, to jam

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Speaker 1: up General Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Media is all about it.

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Speaker 1: This law used to get you know, rapist murderers and

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Speaker 1: gang member thugs out of the country.

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Speaker 2: Media is crying about due process for illegals. We met Tom.

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Speaker 1: Homan on the show a ton and obviously his voice

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Speaker 1: is great because he sounds like the guy.

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Speaker 2: Who should be in charge of the border.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those things that I do think

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Speaker 1: Trump is right about in a television era, the central

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Speaker 1: casting element of the person who is the communicator in

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Speaker 1: chief of a particular issue and decision. Tom Homan both

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Speaker 1: looks and sounds like the grizzled veteran who should be

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Speaker 1: in charge of making sure that our border is safe.

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Speaker 1: Like if you asked me to like central cast, if

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Speaker 1: we were doing a television show or a movie and

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Speaker 1: you said, hey, who's the guy what does the guy

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Speaker 1: look like who's going to shut down the border? I

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Speaker 1: would say, Oh, it's a guy like Tom Homan, and

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Speaker 1: his responses when these questions get yelled out are extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: This is going megaviral. We just played for you.

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Speaker 1: But remember Buck for years. Tom Holman came on this

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Speaker 1: show and he said, it's really simple. If President Trump's

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Speaker 1: in office, he will shut down the border, just like

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Speaker 1: we shut down the border in the first term. And

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Speaker 1: Tom Holman's in office, and again they have shut.

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Speaker 2: Down the border.

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Speaker 1: And I do think you will sometimes know when Trump

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Speaker 1: has huge wins because stories just disappear. They don't give

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Speaker 1: him credit. Really, they just kind of stopped talking about

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Speaker 1: an issue. For instance, the price of eggs. Buck has

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Speaker 1: evidently plummeted in the last ten days or so, and

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Speaker 1: it's back down to a normal level price of eggs.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on egg pricing, but my understanding

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Speaker 1: is that they have essentially come back down to a

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Speaker 1: normal ish price. Story's gonna vanish. For years as the

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Speaker 1: price went up, nobody talked about it. Trump's in office

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Speaker 1: fifty days, suddenly he owns the price of eggs. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you another one. The stock market. I was out

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Speaker 1: last week, rough week for the stock market. Suddenly Trump

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Speaker 1: is responsible for every day's activity in the stock market.

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Speaker 1: When it comes back up, and it will come back up,

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Speaker 1: the story will just vanish. They only have these short

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Speaker 1: lived little narrative arts. Suddenly everybody in the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: cares about where the stock prices are. Look, I want

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Speaker 1: the stock market to go up. My advice to you

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Speaker 1: in general is the same advice that I follow. Buy

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Speaker 1: index funds. I buy s and p five hundred index funds.

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Speaker 1: On average. Historically every ten years they double. The more

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Speaker 1: time you pay attention to stock market prices, the more

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Speaker 1: likely you are to respond emotionally and make decisions to

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Speaker 1: sell low and buy high, because that's how most people think.

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Speaker 1: Oh the prices keep going up, Oh I'm going to buy.

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Speaker 1: Oh the prices are going down. Oh I'm going to sell.

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Speaker 1: What is the great line? For more and Buffett? Be

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Speaker 1: greedy when others are fearful, and be fear full when

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Speaker 1: others are greedy. Honestly emotional aspects of how to judge

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Speaker 1: this and Look, the stock market was a disaster for

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Speaker 1: the first two years of Biden, but the overall American

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Speaker 1: economy is such that even when you have a bad president,

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Speaker 1: and I think Biden was the worst president in any

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Speaker 1: of our lives, the stock market didn't completely collapse because

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Speaker 1: there were enough red states out there making great decisions,

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Speaker 1: and enough red state governors to help to allow their

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Speaker 1: states to be growing dynamically, even while the federal government

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Speaker 1: policies actually made it more difficult for in general companies

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Speaker 1: to succeed. So I do think the way these narratives

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Speaker 1: just vanishbuck is super interesting in the context of Trump's successes.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear them trumpet them, They just vanish.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And I had mentioned this before, and I did want

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Speaker 1: to play it for everybody's they could hear it, which

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Speaker 1: is when Bill Maher I was surprised he went in

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Speaker 1: this direction. Look, Bill's a pretty Bill's a savvy guy,

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Speaker 1: and he's realized that. And he knew before the election too.

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Speaker 1: I think where the Democrat Party was going, which was

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Speaker 1: off a cliff into a brick wall, pick your metaphor.

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Speaker 1: He knew this because they went crazy and he was

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Speaker 1: trying to tell them to stop. He's so crazy, stop

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Speaker 1: is the thing with Bill. He can be reasonable even

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Speaker 1: if he's wrong, like he's wrong on climate change in

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Speaker 1: my mind, but you can talk to him about it

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Speaker 1: somewhat Trump. He despises Trump like he has he is

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Speaker 1: And he took the approach with one of his guests

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Speaker 1: who is a former leftist or center left I should say,

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Speaker 1: side as a Trump voter. And he's like, well, don't

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Speaker 1: you feel like you shouldn't have voted for Trump now

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Speaker 1: that we've seen what's going on? And I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: Here is how she explained this. This is Batya Hunger

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Speaker 1: Sargan on Bill Maher. This is cut twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Play it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering what you think now we're approaching

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Speaker 1: two months in. I mean, you must have a feeling

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Speaker 8: Look Linia, and tell me you don't that this is

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Speaker 8: really going badly and I shouldn't have thrown my lot

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Speaker 8: in with this team.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, I feel the opposite, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, tell me why.

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Speaker 7: I'm so sorry?

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Speaker 2: Bill, No, No, tell me why.

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Speaker 7: No, I feel so proud of I mean, I was

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Speaker 7: never a Republican or a conservative. I was a leftist

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Speaker 7: and I am still a leftist. I'm just a maga

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Speaker 7: leftist now, because.

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Speaker 9: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: I raised you, Yes, when I look at what President

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Speaker 7: Trump ran on and the agenda that he's enacting right now,

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Speaker 7: he took a Republican part that was built on social conservatism,

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Speaker 7: and he basically took an AX to all of those.

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Speaker 7: During the campaign he said, look, I mean he's pretty

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Speaker 7: pro gay, that's pretty obvious. He appointed the highest ranking

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Speaker 7: which is incredible, and he sidelined the pro life wing

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Speaker 7: legal for twelve weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's not actually really where he is on it.

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Speaker 1: But the point here is, Clay, you know, we could

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Speaker 1: talk about the abortion thing in more detail, but the

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Speaker 1: point is the don't you feel badly about how Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing so far? For Trump voters is still a

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Speaker 1: total misread of where Trump voters are, which is, I

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Speaker 1: think for most of us who were expecting it to

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Speaker 1: be good or very good.

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Speaker 2: It is excellent.

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Speaker 1: It has actually exceeded the expectations of those who had

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Speaker 1: had high expectations. So the notion that anybody would regret

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Speaker 1: it who voted for Trump, I just think this goes

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Speaker 1: to Democrats aren't paying attention to the mood of the country,

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Speaker 1: or they're just connected from the mood of the country.

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Speaker 1: They just can't tell. Look, if Trump were in any

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Speaker 1: way experiencing a backlash or regret, Democrats, as we started

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Speaker 1: off the show talking about, wouldn't be at historic lows

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Speaker 1: of approval.

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Speaker 2: In general, the.

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Speaker 1: Approval rating of the Democrat Party would not have collapsed

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Speaker 1: if the Republican president were wildly unpopular. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody anybody regrets their decision about Trump.

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Speaker 2: And look, I mean buck just quickly. There is a

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Speaker 2: very good chance.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get a ceasefire in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: and end that war between Russia and Ukraine within the

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Speaker 1: first hundred days of Trump's presidency. We have a ceasefire

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Speaker 1: right now in the Middle East. It's tenuous, hopefully it holds.

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Speaker 1: That's because of Trump. As we just laid out, potentially

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Speaker 1: the fewest illegal border crossings since nineteen sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: At our southern border.

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Speaker 1: We have inflation hitting a four year low last week,

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Speaker 1: and we have violent crime overall on decline in many

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Speaker 1: different cities across America, and bad guys being put behind

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Speaker 1: bars and kicked out of the country when they have

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Speaker 1: no business being here. Again, the stock market is basically

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Speaker 1: the only thing you can point to right now if

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Speaker 1: you are a Democrat and say.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's not going well.

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Speaker 1: But the stock market is basically right now as we speak,

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Speaker 1: the exact same level S and P five hundred.

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Speaker 2: That it was on election day.

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Speaker 1: So really six months, I mean, you have corrections constantly,

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Speaker 1: stock prices go up and down, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're sitting and I saw a clip from you and

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Speaker 1: I watched it over the last week, Buck where you

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Speaker 1: were laying out, Hey, we've had a sugar high in

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Speaker 1: the way that much of the government has been dealt

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Speaker 1: with in terms of the money that's just been the

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Speaker 1: spigot that's been being paid by Democrats. And there may

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a retrenchment as people recognize

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Speaker 1: that that sugar high is going away.

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Speaker 2: I did say that last week. Thank you for noting it, and.

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Speaker 1: The Treasury Secretary was on TV this morning, This is

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Speaker 1: Cut nine. Scott Bessant was saying, that's exactly what has happened.

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Speaker 2: Everybody. We need to face reality play nine.

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Speaker 9: Top ten percent of Americans are forty or fifty percent

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Speaker 9: of consumption and that is an unstable equilibrium. The bottom

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Speaker 9: fifty percent of working Americans have gotten killed. We are

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Speaker 9: trying to address that. We're trying to get rates down.

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Speaker 9: And could we be seeing this economy that we inherited

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Speaker 9: starting to roll a bit?

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Speaker 8: Sure?

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Speaker 9: And look, there's going to be a natural adjustment as

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Speaker 9: we move away from public spending. The private spending, the

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Speaker 9: market and the economy have just become hooked, come addicted

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Speaker 9: to this government spending, and there's going to be.

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Speaker 2: A detox period, detox period.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there's going to be a detox period when

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Speaker 1: you've been spending beyond your means. If you've been running

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Speaker 1: to the mall, I guess, does anything really go to

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Speaker 1: the mall anymore to spend a on money? But if

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Speaker 1: you've been running to the mall spending ten grand a

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Speaker 1: month on your credit?

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Speaker 2: Life? Does okay? My mother and my mother in law,

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Speaker 2: does I think? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I just want I just wonder, like, at what point

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Speaker 1: they're going to name a chair or something after my

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Speaker 1: wife at Costco? You know, like, at what point does

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Speaker 1: she get that honor for spending as much at Costco

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Speaker 1: as she does.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, buck.

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Speaker 1: You know, I went downstairs to get my smoothie for lunch,

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Speaker 1: and I look down and we have a big Costco

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Speaker 1: chili ready for dinner tonight. And I'm already excited about

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Speaker 1: having Costco chili. It's my I don't shop I shop

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Speaker 1: at Amazon, and I shop at Costco. That's like ninety

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Speaker 1: nine percent of where I buy anything. I love every

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Speaker 1: I'm like your wife. I love every time I get

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Speaker 1: to go into a Costco. It's just always a glorious experience.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too. Ive said, Honey, do you want me

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Speaker 1: to go with you? And she's like, no, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, It's like it's like she doesn't want

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Speaker 1: me to spoil it by, you know, asking my my

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Speaker 1: ignorant Costco questions or anything like this is her place,

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Speaker 1: this is her this is her field trip that she

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Speaker 1: gets to go on once a week and load up

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Speaker 1: the entire suv full of things from Costco.

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Speaker 2: So but look at you a bundle of money in

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Speaker 2: the process, as one does.

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Speaker 1: She's saving me nothing but money. It's almost like everything

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Speaker 1: she buys is free because of all of the savings.

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Speaker 1: And those of you who are familiar with wife or

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Speaker 1: girl math are familiar with how that actually goes. She's

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Speaker 1: doing me a favor by bringing home those big jars

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Speaker 1: of whatever it is because it's such a good deal.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's how girl math works. It's gone

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Speaker 1: popular on TikTok. We've talked about this before, where women

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Speaker 1: the men in their lives like that's not actually no,

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Speaker 1: But girl math is you don't spend money, you only

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Speaker 1: save money. So something's half off. You have saved a

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Speaker 1: massive amount in the process. So this is the COSTCO

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Speaker 1: is the perfect example of this. Yes, but back to

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Speaker 1: the economy overall, this is not a surprise to the

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Speaker 1: and the expectation that this will just continue. You know,

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Speaker 1: The point is we don't want that to continue to happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there'll be a little bit of a disruption there.

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Speaker 1: And that is the only thing that you can point to,

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into what you're focused on right now, which

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Speaker 1: is the federal district court judges have emerged as the

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Speaker 1: primary resistance to Trump's authority in the United States. The

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party has collapsed. We were talking about the overall

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Speaker 1: approval ratings hitting all time lows at NBC and CNN.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about these federal district court judges

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Speaker 1: and what do you think should be done to stop

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Speaker 1: one judge who is oftentimes an Obama appointee, from trying

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Speaker 1: to keep President Trump from being able to enact the

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Speaker 1: executive actions that the American people put him in office

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think several things. You know what, we have

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Speaker 8: oversight of Article three courts, so we're looking at all

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Speaker 8: this so there's sort of this the general oversight function,

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Speaker 8: and then there's legislation that we can do. And I'm

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Speaker 8: telling Buck, I listened, we were driving this morning and

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Speaker 8: I heard I heard your show from Friday we were

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Speaker 8: playing as your head off to the meeting, and you

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Speaker 8: were talking about this issue, and we passed this bill

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Speaker 8: to I think two or three weeks ago out of committee.

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Speaker 8: We're going to try to get it through the House.

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Speaker 8: But the bill said, look, you if you have some

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Speaker 8: judge in tim Buck to California who issues are ruling,

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Speaker 8: it doesn't apply nation why, it applies to the parties

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Speaker 8: of the case, the parties in the case in that

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Speaker 8: respective jurisdiction. And so you limit the ability. What has

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Speaker 8: it been I think fifteen times in eight weeks. Actually

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Speaker 8: it'd be a shorter period of time than that, even

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Speaker 8: six seven weeks, where fifteen different occasions where some some

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Speaker 8: federal judge has had a nationwide injunction against some actions

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Speaker 8: taken by President Trump, either executive order or some of

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Speaker 8: the dose things that have taken place. So and I

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Speaker 8: think of the whole four years of Joe Biden was

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Speaker 8: like thirteen or fourteen. So we think this makes sense.

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Speaker 8: And then we're also just looking at our general oversight

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Speaker 8: of this this whole thing. And of course the biggest example,

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Speaker 8: while it was not a nation wide injunction, but the

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Speaker 8: example that tront and center on everyone's mind is this judge,

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Speaker 8: Judge Bosberg, who said no, no, No, it's better to

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Speaker 8: bring hardened criminals back to the country, gang members back

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Speaker 8: to the country than to send them away, which I

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Speaker 8: think is just underscores how ridiculous some of this stuff

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Speaker 8: is that we're seeing from these judges.

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Speaker 1: Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us. So clearly

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Speaker 1: we agree that reigning in the hashtag resistance universal injunction

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Speaker 1: happy judiciary is constitutionally necessary. I have a feeling the

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Speaker 1: Democrats in the Senate, however, will be unwilling to go

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Speaker 1: along with this. So is this mostly just a function

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Speaker 1: of making the argument in front of the American people

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Speaker 1: that this should be done. So at least when Democrats

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Speaker 1: are claiming that this is the way it has to be,

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration can turn around and say, one, we disagree,

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Speaker 1: and two it's Democrats who are refusing to clarify this.

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Speaker 1: So of course it's going to have to make its

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Speaker 1: way up to the Supreme Court because we know they'll

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Speaker 1: complain about that too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, we could have taken a course. There's

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Speaker 8: other legislation that we're looking at where you would do

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Speaker 8: some extability review. So if it stays the same, so

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Speaker 8: some judge, some federal district judge can issue ruling has

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Speaker 8: nationwide implication, and then you get some expedited review, some

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Speaker 8: three judge panel then on this so you could do it.

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Speaker 8: You can do that route as well. We'll look at

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Speaker 8: that legislative if that makes sense. But the idea is

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Speaker 8: to get an answer quickly and not have these judges

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Speaker 8: and the Democrats forum shopping. But I would back up

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Speaker 8: a second. I think, really what this is about is

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Speaker 8: the left doesn't want to trust the individual who was

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Speaker 8: elected to make decisions. The left says, no, no, no, we

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Speaker 8: got to go to the judges. We got to go

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Speaker 8: to the experts in the government, of bureaucrats who were

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Speaker 8: so much smarter than we the people. It's the whole

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Speaker 8: reason they thought doctor Fouci should run the world a

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Speaker 8: few years ago. It's not trusting in the guy who

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Speaker 8: put their name on the ballot, was elected and his

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Speaker 8: Article two, section one. I always point to this. The

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Speaker 8: very first sentence in Article two of our constitutions says

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Speaker 8: executive power shall be vested in a president of the

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Speaker 8: United States. The Democrats don't like that. They want the

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Speaker 8: experts to run things, and then they want to go

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Speaker 8: to the courts to run things. They don't like the

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Speaker 8: guy that the people put in power. So ultimately that's

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Speaker 8: where about. And then we're trying to figure out a

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Speaker 8: way to make sure that the people get their wishes

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Speaker 8: done as it was reflected in the election. On November fifth, we're.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: What is the latest that you can tell us about

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Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill that I know is working its

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Speaker 1: way through, the reconciliation bill that would deal with taxes,

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Speaker 1: that would deal with the border, I believe everything else.

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Speaker 1: What's the absolute latest there? People should know? What's the

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Speaker 1: timeframe look like? How do you see it going?

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Speaker 8: Well? I think good, especially now that we've got to

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Speaker 8: ceer done. You know, no one thought we could really

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Speaker 8: get that done, and everyone you thought there were going

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Speaker 8: to be some kind of fight on But when we

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Speaker 8: framed it up with this just flat funding maybe saving

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Speaker 8: a few dollars like we did. Now that that's off

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Speaker 8: the table, I think we can turn to implementing the

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Speaker 8: dose cuts, doing the reconciligation that the American people elected

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Speaker 8: us to do. The speakers indicated he wants to may

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Speaker 8: timeframe on this to try to get this all done.

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Speaker 8: I think that'd be great if we can make it

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Speaker 8: happen that quickly, getting some certainty on the tax code,

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Speaker 8: getting some certainty on energy policy, getting the revenue and

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Speaker 8: resources to Tom Homan and President Trump's team to make

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Speaker 8: sure they can continue to secure our border. I think

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Speaker 8: that makes all the sense in the world. But that

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Speaker 8: victory last week was good. I saw Senator Murphy Democrat

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Speaker 8: Center from Connecticut on TV yesterday and he said, this

1004
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Speaker 8: was the first time that the government spending bill wasn't

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Speaker 8: negotiated in a bipartisan fashion, didn't have bipartisan buy it.

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Speaker 8: You know what else it was. It was the first

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Speaker 8: time we passed the spending bill where we didn't spend

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Speaker 8: more money. Maybe there's a correlation there, maybe there's some

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Speaker 8: truth to us do it this way, so they were

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Speaker 8: not spending more money. So I thought that was a

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Speaker 8: big win for us. And now we're set to implement

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Speaker 8: the dose cuts that the Trump administration and Elon and

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Speaker 8: his team have put together along with this reconciliation package,

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Speaker 8: and let's hope we can get it done by the

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Speaker 8: spring here by May, and then get on with the

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Speaker 8: economy growing like we wanted to grow.

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Speaker 1: Congress and Jordan, you may have seen this a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago, FBI Director Cash Patel, I'll share this quote.

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Speaker 1: I want to address the alarming rise in swatting incidents

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Speaker 1: targeting media figures. The FBI is aware of this dangerous trend,

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Speaker 1: and my team and I are taking action to investigate

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Speaker 1: and hold those responsible accountable. There have been a number

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Speaker 1: of people, this is the reports are out there who

1024
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Speaker 1: have had this swat incident. A swatting incident's happen, and

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Speaker 1: for anyone listening, it's where someone calls in a hoax,

1026
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Speaker 1: high threat situation to law enforcement, says, oh, here's the address.

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Speaker 1: There's somebody barricaded with a gun, holding a hostage, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes swat shows up and goes in heavy through the door,

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Speaker 1: and it's very dangerous. My understanding is that, yes, of

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Speaker 1: course this is against the law, but there's no specific

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Speaker 1: law that's brought to BAAR federal law targeting. I'm usually

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Speaker 1: not in favor of more laws, but is anyone in

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Speaker 1: the Congress considering an anti swatting law specifically to address

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Speaker 1: this so that it's very clear, Hey, if you because

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Speaker 1: someone could get killed this has there have been lethal

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Speaker 1: incidents in the past with this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, Kidd and UH, if legislation is needed to

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Speaker 8: clarify that, we're certainly open to doing that. That that

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Speaker 8: makes sense to me. You know, this is this is

1040
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Speaker 8: dangerous stuff. And you start messing around with this kind

1041
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Speaker 8: of stuff for political reasons because you want to go

1042
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Speaker 8: get you know, to someone on the other party or whatever.

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Speaker 8: I know our colleague, I think Marjorie Taylor Green has

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Speaker 8: been squatted several times. So if you're doing this for

1045
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Speaker 8: political stuff, this is there should be prosecution, just like

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Speaker 8: if your UH Attorney General Bondi has talked about this,

1047
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Speaker 8: if you're if you're these folks in these cities, these

1048
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Speaker 8: sanctuary cities, and you're tipping off the bad guys when

1049
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Speaker 8: ICE is coming to try to do their job and

1050
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Speaker 8: you're making it difficult for ICE agents to implement and

1051
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Speaker 8: and and force federal law.

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Speaker 1: And dangerous for them because some of these bad guys

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Speaker 1: can set up ambush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well we saw this happen in Detroit or ecue

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Speaker 8: me in Denver. The sanctuary city policies out there were

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Speaker 8: they let this guy go, this Abraham Gonzalez. They let

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Speaker 8: him go even though I had said, hey, if you're

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Speaker 8: going to release this guy, we know you got him.

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Speaker 8: He's in for aggravated assault. He stole a car. If

1061
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Speaker 8: you're going to release him, give us forty eight hours

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Speaker 8: notice so we can come to the jail and pick

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Speaker 8: him up in your county jail, in your city jail.

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Speaker 8: And they said no. They released him to the street,

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Speaker 8: and then they got to go arrest him on the

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Speaker 8: streets and as a result, on Ice agent got assaulted.

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Speaker 8: It's like, that's what happens when you have this crazy

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Speaker 8: left wing sanctuary city policy. So if it's that or

1069
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Speaker 8: sweating or whatever, let's make sure that we protect the

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Speaker 8: safety and allow and if you're engaged in that kind

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Speaker 8: of stuff, you should be prosecuted for goodness sake.

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Speaker 1: Jim at New York Times this morning said, right now,

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Speaker 1: we're on pace for the lowest amount of border crossings

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Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty seven. I knew you had faith that

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Speaker 1: Trump and Tom Holman and Christine Home and everybody else

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Speaker 1: out there could get this thing solved.

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Speaker 2: Did even you?

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Speaker 1: Are you even astounded by how quickly he has managed

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Speaker 1: to turn the southern border into a secure zone.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I am. And it's it's it's truly a reflection

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Speaker 8: of leaders and you know, we all know. Leadership makes

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Speaker 8: a difference. And when you come in and say you

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Speaker 8: you reverse exactly what Biden said, No more, no more

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Speaker 8: building the wall, no more remain in Mexico, and when

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Speaker 8: you get here, you will not be detained. You will

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Speaker 8: be released. And President Trump came in and said, We're

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Speaker 8: going to flip those exactly one hundred degrees. We're going

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Speaker 8: to continue building the wall. We're going to make you

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Speaker 8: wait in Mexico while we evaluate your claim. And when

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Speaker 8: you get here, there is no way you will be released.

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Speaker 8: You will be you will be detained and sent back.

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Speaker 8: And anyone else who came here, we're going to find

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Speaker 8: you and send you back if you're not if you're

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Speaker 8: not supposed to be here. When you come in with

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Speaker 8: that kind of attitude, and Tom Holman is certainly reflective

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Speaker 8: of that attitude and you do those things, it's amazing

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Speaker 8: what happens. Lowis encounters, I think ever, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 8: play but I got admit it's the It's even faster

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Speaker 8: and better than I thought they could do it, which

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Speaker 8: is again a testament to the leadership of President Trump

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Speaker 8: and his team.

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Speaker 1: Congress and Jim Jordan Away appreciate making the time for

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Speaker 1: a sir, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna give you a chance because

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Speaker 2: it's in.

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Speaker 1: C double I know what we're going to now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we we're saving the republic slash.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk sports. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Uh Buck is going to fill out a bracket, which

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Speaker 1: he's rarely done before. But I also know the wrestling

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Speaker 1: in C double A tournament is underway, I believe. And

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Speaker 1: you are a former Uh yeah, you are a die

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Speaker 1: hard on that front. What should people know about the

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Speaker 1: n C double A tournament for the men out there

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Speaker 1: that everybody's gonna be watching this weekend, and also wrestling.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an opportunity to to flex your muscles.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and wrestling Tennsey is gonna win again, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 8: there'll be lots of there'll be there'll be a strong

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Speaker 8: competition for runner up. You know, the Buck guys that

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Speaker 8: will be good. Hawkeyes are good. There's other a lot.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's all big ten. Then there's a few

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Speaker 8: teams from the from the twelve we'll coom. The state

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Speaker 8: will be solid, so we'll see how that goes. We're

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Speaker 8: going to go for the finals. I think it's in

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia will be there for the final night basketball. I'm

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Speaker 8: always hearing for the Badgers, uh, you know, even though

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Speaker 8: they got beat yesterday, and that ten final chair for

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Speaker 8: the Badgers, which is where I went to school. So

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Speaker 8: we'll see. I don't even know what. I haven't looked

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Speaker 8: at the brackets yet, though today I assume the Badger's

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Speaker 8: got a pretty high seed.

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Speaker 2: Three.

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Speaker 1: You're a three seed, so you're in pretty good set

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Speaker 1: up to play Alabama in the sweet sixteen if you

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Speaker 1: make it.

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Speaker 8: There, there we go, there we go. Well. So I'll

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Speaker 8: probably in my bracket I usually have. If wisconsinin the tournament,

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Speaker 8: I usually have them gone to the final four at

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Speaker 8: some point, so I'm sure I'll have that my bracket

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Speaker 8: this time too.

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Speaker 2: Outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 1: You have a good work, Congressman, and we appreciate you.

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Speaker 8: You bet take care.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's fabulous in many respects. But I do

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Speaker 1: love that when he's out on the road, Like you said, Buck,

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Speaker 1: he was listening to you on Friday, He's like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: let me go ahead and hop on and talk about

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Speaker 1: everything going on out there in the world.

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Speaker 2: On the series. Do you agree with me?

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Speaker 1: There should be a you know, you're a lawyer, there

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Speaker 1: should be an anti swatting law because I know that

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Speaker 1: there are there are violations of law in swatting, but

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Speaker 1: it makes it easier for prosecutors if it's you did

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Speaker 1: the following things are covered under this specific statute, which

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Speaker 1: is trying to prevent because right now it's you know,

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Speaker 1: interstate threats, it's false report. It's a bunch of different things.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I know there's from terrorism prosecutions, like

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Speaker 1: when there's one thing you can hit people with, like

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Speaker 1: when it's material support to terrorist group, tenures in federal prison.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot easier than trying to cobble together a

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Speaker 1: multi statute prosecution. It also simplifies and makes people aware

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Speaker 1: of what dangers there's a political component to it or

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Speaker 1: an awareness component as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just shouldn't do this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's dangerous and uh, it's just awful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of things out there

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Speaker 1: where you can say, we talked about this with death threats. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we got some at the house during the election season,

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Speaker 1: Like I think you should. There are several things that

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Speaker 1: are sort of new because people haven't had access to

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Speaker 1: direct messages and social media and cell phones everything else

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Speaker 1: that are new crimes that we need to prosecute to

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Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law. To just make it clear,

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Speaker 1: this is not a prank. This is not something you

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Speaker 1: can play around with. And I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think that could make a lot of sense. Look think

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Speaker 1: back to your days in school, whenever those might have

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