WEBVTT - QAnon is Far From Over

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On is now the most prolific online conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory of the twenty one century. None of their predictions

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<v Speaker 1>came true. Q has vanished and the storm never came,

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<v Speaker 1>but Q and On is still alive. I'm Jake Hanrahan,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is series two of Q Clearance, a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>shedding light on the ongoing Q and on conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a production of Kudatar Media and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the final episode of Q Clearance, And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try and recap on everything we've learned

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<v Speaker 1>to better understand where Q and On might be headed now.

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<v Speaker 1>So first I want to focus on December of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming December in a few months. If Q doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>return before then, that will be a full twelve months

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<v Speaker 1>without a Q drop. This is something I keep coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to because I think it's actually quite a big

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<v Speaker 1>signifier of how Q and On has mutated. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have a leader telling them what to do now,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still moving forward now. One thing I was

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<v Speaker 1>quite wrong about in the last series was that I

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<v Speaker 1>suspected the Q and On movement would begin to crumble

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly once Q stopped posting the drops. I thought without

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<v Speaker 1>their leader, the followers would all start dropping like flights.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst this was initially true to some degree at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>the collapse of the original Q and on routine has actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in the long term lead to a strengthened resurgence in

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<v Speaker 1>the movement and what I think can be best described

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<v Speaker 1>now as Q and on two point oh, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the new iteration of Q and on. Now, with this

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<v Speaker 1>new iteration, I think one thing is very clear after

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<v Speaker 1>looking into it for a while. Out of sight does

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<v Speaker 1>not mean out of mind when it comes to Q

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<v Speaker 1>and on. Just because the movement was chased off of

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream social media and because it vantaged from the news,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's followers disappeared. Sure, plenty of them did

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<v Speaker 1>throw in the towel, and they eventually realized they've been tricked. However,

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<v Speaker 1>what remained was the most hardcore of the hardcore, and

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<v Speaker 1>if the telegram channels or anything to go by, it

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<v Speaker 1>is still talking hundreds of thousands of people. This, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, is where Q and On truly becomes its

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<v Speaker 1>most dangerous, when it mutated from a ridiculous conspiracy based

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<v Speaker 1>internet movement to something more akin to a decentralized extremist cult.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I would personally label Q and On two

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<v Speaker 1>point oh if I had to simplify it. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot more to we know. We've explored this

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<v Speaker 1>with Q clearance, but again, to put a bow in it,

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<v Speaker 1>it is basically a gigantic conspiracy theory cult. Things have

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<v Speaker 1>gone a lot darker too. With the evolution of Q

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<v Speaker 1>and On two point oh has come a new accepted

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<v Speaker 1>extremism within the movement that was previously taboo to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>out loud within Q and On circles. Yes, many of

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<v Speaker 1>the theories Q and On is built upon borrow heavily

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<v Speaker 1>from anti Semitic conspiracies. Yes, there's deep undertones of racism

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<v Speaker 1>in the Q and On rehetoric at times, but the

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<v Speaker 1>original form of Q and On at least pretended to

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<v Speaker 1>shun racism and anti Semitism. I'm not saying that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing, it's just the way it was. Now though,

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<v Speaker 1>within Q and On two point oh there is a

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<v Speaker 1>split and within the factions that that has created. Racism

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<v Speaker 1>and outright neo Nazism is often accepted and even promoted.

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<v Speaker 1>It if you subscribe to the right Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>telegram channels you can basically view each Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>offshoot in real time. It's clear that whilst it's growing

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<v Speaker 1>stronger in some ways, the movement is shattered into different

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<v Speaker 1>webs of ideology, all under the same insane Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On umbrella. It seems that without Q, without Trump, where

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<v Speaker 1>we go, one we go? All is now just words.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no real unity amongst the Q and Ons.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there are different camps of thought within the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Q and on is now who subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas of ghost Ezra. He is a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On neo Nazi that's been slowly playing his followers with Hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't such a bad guy bullshit for a while now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also on the wackiest end of the conspiracy spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>floating ideas of reptilians and bodied bubbles. His channel has

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<v Speaker 1>over three hundred thousand subscribers. Then there's the q and

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<v Speaker 1>Ons who subscribe to the more conventional q and On

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<v Speaker 1>ideas of Praying medic. He's one of the original q

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<v Speaker 1>and On personalities. Him and his followers are still pushing

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that Trump is secretly in control. Praying Medic

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<v Speaker 1>thinks Q will come back and take over blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also trying his hardest to call out the racist

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi Q and on camps that have emerged. Ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 1>this has him throwing war on some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>out there conspiracy theories that were actually once part of

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<v Speaker 1>the original user generated Q and on canon. Recently, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote the following, which looks to be a shot

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<v Speaker 1>taken at ghost Ezra's camp quote why do they push

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic claims? Certain accounts on social medi media share unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>claims with their followers. There appears to be a single

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<v Speaker 1>overarching reason why they do it. These accounts often post

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate news and information on current events for a period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, but then they will suddenly share something out

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<v Speaker 1>of the norm, like the idea that Hitler wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>such a bad guy, or that James Comey or Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton have been secretly executed. If I were to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the moon was made of cheese, you may not

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<v Speaker 1>believe me, but I could respond prove that it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>made of cheese. To prove conclusively that the moon is

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<v Speaker 1>not made of cheese, we would have to go there

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<v Speaker 1>in person and inspect the surface of the moon. That

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<v Speaker 1>isn't possible right anyway, end quote. It goes on like that.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can see, their Praying Medic is basically calling

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<v Speaker 1>out other Q and on groups who are becoming more

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<v Speaker 1>extreme and spreading even more fantastic conspiracy theories. Imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Q and on conspiracy theories in the

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<v Speaker 1>new movement even too radical to out there for the

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<v Speaker 1>originators of Q and On, It's kind of ironic when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it. Anyway, Praying Medic, despite being a

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<v Speaker 1>start up Q and On influencer from day one, actually

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<v Speaker 1>has less than half as many subscribers as ghost Ezra,

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<v Speaker 1>with just over one and ten thousand. Then moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the q and On spirituality camp that believe the

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<v Speaker 1>half baked and completely failed predictions of Q are actually

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of prophecies from a different dimension. I swear

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<v Speaker 1>to God this is what they believe. These lot mostly

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<v Speaker 1>congregate on a channel called five D Full Disclosure. They

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<v Speaker 1>only have thirty subscribers, but what they lack in membership

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<v Speaker 1>they make up for in complete and total madness, trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then around all of this there's the more conventional hard

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<v Speaker 1>core conservative conspiracy apes that latch onto Mike Flynn and

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<v Speaker 1>lynn Wood, the ladder of which seems to be mostly

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<v Speaker 1>these days posting about God and how his Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on mania has wrecked his family. It's all quite pathetic,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. Still, Lynnwood has nearly nine hundred thousands subscribers,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly has a lot of cloud in the Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on community. Still there are other camps outside of these

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but generally they all have some variations of

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<v Speaker 1>these ideas. So now not only is Q and On

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<v Speaker 1>in some kind of shadow war against the deep State,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least they think they are, they're also at

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<v Speaker 1>war with each other. Whilst these varying degrees of delusion

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<v Speaker 1>sound funny to speak about, and I know I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of laughing whilst looking into it, we must always

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<v Speaker 1>remind ourselves that several people have already died as a

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<v Speaker 1>direct influence of the frenzied madness that is Q and

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<v Speaker 1>actually is not a game, and it's not funny. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the saddest examples of death by Q and On is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Ashley Babbitt. Actually bubb It was shot dead

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<v Speaker 1>during the January six Capital Building riot by a police

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<v Speaker 1>officer as she tried to climb a ledge whilst breaching,

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<v Speaker 1>smashed in the security door. Actually, Babbitt laid there, bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, with a Make America Great Again flag

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<v Speaker 1>draped around her shoulders. Bwad is up to Congress to

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<v Speaker 1>confront dis egregious assault on our democracy. And after this,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna walk down, and I'll be there with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna walk down. We're gonna walk down to the capital,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna cheer on our brave senators and congress

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<v Speaker 1>men and women. And we're probably not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>cheering so much for some of them, because you'll never

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<v Speaker 1>take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to be strong. Actually, bubb It later

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<v Speaker 1>died in hospital. She was just thirty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Babb It was a true believer in q and On.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite this, Whilst many initially saw her as a martyr,

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<v Speaker 1>her status was quickly cast down when Q and On's

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<v Speaker 1>claimed her death was in fact a false flag event

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<v Speaker 1>designed to make them look bad. Bubb It was an

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force veteran who served in Iraq. Q and Ons

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<v Speaker 1>took this and ran with it, deciding she was in

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<v Speaker 1>fact working for the kabal of pedophiles and deep state

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<v Speaker 1>actors that they believe they're fighting against ironic clear enough,

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<v Speaker 1>even after effectively dying for the cause of q and On, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Babbitt was turned into parts of the evil conspiracy she

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<v Speaker 1>believed in. In total, five people lost their lives in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of the January sixth Capital Building riot, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've already established, was massively connected to Q and On.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian sick Nick, a member of the Capitol Police Force,

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<v Speaker 1>died after being beaten by protesters and sprayed with mace.

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<v Speaker 1>He was forty two years old. Kevin Greson, a former

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<v Speaker 1>Obama support turned MAGA loyalist, died of a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>as protesters became more rowdy. It's believed he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone to his wife as it happened. He was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five. Rosanne Boiland, a hard core Q and On believer,

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<v Speaker 1>was crushed to death as other MAGA rioters tried to

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<v Speaker 1>fight through a police line. She was just thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Ben Phillips, a big time Trump loyalists who

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<v Speaker 1>believed in some of the conspiracy theories of Q and On,

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<v Speaker 1>died of a stroke after attending the riot. En route,

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<v Speaker 1>he told the media. He believed it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>day of the rest of our lives for the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fifty. Now some people have pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of people who lost their lives during the

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<v Speaker 1>January sixth Capital Building riot were Q and On or

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<v Speaker 1>MAGO loyalists, and that it doesn't matter. It does matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget your political affiliations and pearl clutching for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>and consider that these were all real people with lives, aspirations,

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<v Speaker 1>and families. Sadly, for whatever reasons, they weren't wise enough

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<v Speaker 1>to realize how unbelievably stupid Q and On his they

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<v Speaker 1>were manipulated, roped in, and tricked by a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>sociopathic internet goons from h N online. Lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>still think that's funny, but ultimately people are now dead

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<v Speaker 1>due to a fake prediction that sprung up on an

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<v Speaker 1>image board in October. From that to this, Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On is not a partisan issue, as we've discussed, It's

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<v Speaker 1>mutated into something much more extreme that can affect everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>The wreckage it leaves in its wake is felt all

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<v Speaker 1>across the political spectrum. Now, I'm not saying Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On is the next terror movement. I don't think calling

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<v Speaker 1>January six rioters insurgents makes any sense, and I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>not saying more Q and on violence is a definite. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that it's worth paying attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's evolved, and it should most definitely not be

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<v Speaker 1>ignored just because it's no longer trending. So what can

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<v Speaker 1>you do to help stop people falling into the trap

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<v Speaker 1>of Q and on two point Oh? Honestly, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure anymore. I'm sorry I don't have a better

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<v Speaker 1>answer for you, but that's where it is. In the

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<v Speaker 1>last series, we asked this question when Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>was coming to the end of its first phase. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>though without its leader, it's built autonomous cells with different ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>that's much harder to tackle. All we can do is

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the biggest issue currently. I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact fascist groups have purposely targeted Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>channels as a means to infiltrate and convert already wide

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<v Speaker 1>eyed conspiracy nuts that are there. It goes to Ezra's

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain support base is anything to go by, They're clearly

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<v Speaker 1>quite successful. Now I've seeing these Nazi supporters toying with

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On supporters in real time on telegram. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't steam him with swastickers and gas chambers at first.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're often doing is taking on the role of

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<v Speaker 1>a Q and On adherent and asking more and more

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<v Speaker 1>extreme questions, linking everything back to racist myths and anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>They engage with the q and Ons and turn up

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<v Speaker 1>slow boil until Hitler was right becomes an accepted point

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<v Speaker 1>of view. Their methods are clever and very fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to stop someone believing in hateful

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<v Speaker 1>political ideas, but I do know stopping those spreading them helps.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say at this point, if people really want

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<v Speaker 1>to help stop the spread of Q and On, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to get active. That doesn't mean publishing a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>tweet thread on why someone somewhere did something bad. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean laughing in the face of Q and On's.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean showing at them, screaming at them. What

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<v Speaker 1>getting active could mean is participating in the many online

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<v Speaker 1>investigations currently taking place to unmask the neo Nazis infiltrating

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On circles. Perhaps, if you've got time, have

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<v Speaker 1>a listen back to the series, listen to the guests

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<v Speaker 1>and think, how could you help, Maybe reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.

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<v Speaker 1>As of now, Q and on remains a burning wildfire

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<v Speaker 1>of hate, conspiracy theory, and cult like manipulation. As it stands,

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on is yet to die out. Logic, common sense,

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<v Speaker 1>the fall of Trump and online the platform NG hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>killed it. Unfortunately. I think Q and on will be

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<v Speaker 1>around in some form for years to come. Week due

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<v Speaker 1>to convert it it stay one step ahead byre trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it. This has been QUE Clearance. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. M m hm m hm. Q Clearance is

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<v Speaker 1>Underscore hand Rahan. That's h A N A h A N.

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<v Speaker 1>additional research by Sarah A. High Tower. The music is

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