WEBVTT - Beyond Being Seen with Devi Brown 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Deeply Well. This show is a soft place.

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<v Speaker 2>To land on your journey, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Space where we explore what it truly means to live

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<v Speaker 1>well from the inside out, not perfectly, but honestly, with

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<v Speaker 1>all the complexity, the paradox, the beauty, and the wonder

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<v Speaker 1>of being human. Because in a world that is constantly

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<v Speaker 1>pulling at us, this is the space to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your body, your truth, to the practices.

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<v Speaker 1>That genuinely sustain you, the ones that work when life

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<v Speaker 1>is actually happening. This show is for the seekers, the creatives,

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<v Speaker 1>the sensitive ones, for everyone doing the quiet, courageous work

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<v Speaker 1>of becoming whole. This is Deeply Well. Welcome back to Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Debbie Brown. I am so grateful you're here, and

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<v Speaker 1>wherever this conversation finds you today, I hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>can receive it as an invitation to slow down, to reconnect,

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<v Speaker 1>and to become a little more present with yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like a sentence I'm leading with in everything lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is hard, and I think that's a given for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>even on the best day.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Earth is a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So my intention always with this show, whether we are

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you know an amazing person. Whether we're diving

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<v Speaker 1>into some of my experiences, whether we're processing flowing any

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<v Speaker 1>of it, it's to help relieve some of the inner

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<v Speaker 1>suffering that we all carry being alive and make it

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<v Speaker 1>feel joyful, worth it, fine, enthusiasm where it's present, and

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything, just self actualized to the best of

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<v Speaker 1>our ability. Okay, today's episode is inspired by two experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that I had that, although very different, I felt beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>compliment one another and also provided some interesting contrasts for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to invite you into this experience that

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<v Speaker 2>I have. If you are a.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener of the show, you know I have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>living with chronic pain conditions and living with an autoimmune condition.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for all of my chronic pain girlies out there,

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone who is just kind of discovering their health,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe suffering with their health right now, or looking to

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<v Speaker 1>implement practices of longevity so that for the length of

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<v Speaker 1>your life you can continue to nourish yourself and feel

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<v Speaker 1>like yourself, this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an experience that I've never done before. I

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<v Speaker 1>am somebody that if you have not picked this up

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<v Speaker 1>from the show or my Instagram. I have been biohacking

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<v Speaker 1>all the things. I would say somewhere around what year

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<v Speaker 1>is it like, maybe fourteen years. I used to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an opportunity to get a lot of frontline resources.

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<v Speaker 1>I was connected to the athletic world, to the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>world many years ago, and from that I learned so

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<v Speaker 1>much about bodies and my bodies, and I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>testing done back then that I didn't know eventually would

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<v Speaker 1>become you know, some of the pillars of the longevity

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<v Speaker 1>work that's available now. So it's been incredible really watching

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<v Speaker 1>that industry grow and watching my own connection to my

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<v Speaker 1>health and my self advocacy for my health has grown.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone that has a chronic pain condition or something

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<v Speaker 1>that you've been trying to understand. I also have this

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<v Speaker 1>experience having ADHD, and you know, it taking my.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole life to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've been on one of those searches of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand your inner working and you're inner wiring, one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's been a journey, a lifelong journey, and

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<v Speaker 1>two you've probably realized that you either get absolutely exhausted

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<v Speaker 1>trying to explain yourself to doctors or to various practitioners,

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<v Speaker 1>or you become really a master of your personal domain

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<v Speaker 1>and you're coming in and able to really advocate with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of power, with a lot of authenticity, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have your receipts, and so it's interesting living that

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<v Speaker 1>life and those that live it, you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you walk in with doctors and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed that you know so much about yourself and looking

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of counteract your intuition or the understandings that

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<v Speaker 1>you've come through or not listen. And sometimes you're blessed

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<v Speaker 1>with doctors that are fascinated about the work that they

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<v Speaker 1>do and they're always looking to learn and find solutions

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<v Speaker 1>and collaborate with patients. But you never quite know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get. So as I get ready to

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<v Speaker 1>share this experience that I had, I'm kind of giving

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<v Speaker 1>you the big lead in because I found that I

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to really be disarmed and this experience

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<v Speaker 1>that I had and really be nourished and changed.

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<v Speaker 2>By the experience that I had.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to invite you to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>this with me, but then to also find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to if it resonates see how you may be able

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it to life in your world. So I

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<v Speaker 1>recently this past week for several days. If you watch

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<v Speaker 1>my stories, you saw some wild things. I recently returned

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<v Speaker 1>from spending several days at the Shaw Wellness Clinic in Cancun, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>So Shaw Wellness, that's Sha Wellness is a space that's

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to the inner of modern medicine, holistic therapies, nutrition,

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<v Speaker 1>mindfulness and longevity. And my experience there was really a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that well being is never something that we just

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<v Speaker 1>stumble upon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to really intentionally cultivate through the environment that we create,

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<v Speaker 1>the habits that we practice, and the relationship that is

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<v Speaker 1>ever growing that we have with ourselves and our bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also entering the annual lions Gate Portal My God

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole lot of supercharged astrology for August twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I am an astrology girly. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with astrology since I was a child, but very

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<v Speaker 1>actively studying it since right around eighteen or nineteen, when

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<v Speaker 1>I had my first big birth chart in depth birth chart.

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<v Speaker 2>Reading twenty three years ago. Yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this time of year I've always found that

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<v Speaker 1>I naturally gravitate to summer being pretty potent for me,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty magnetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually deeply healing.

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<v Speaker 1>July tends to be a little tumultuous, which this year

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<v Speaker 1>it was too in mercury retrograde. Whooped that ass, my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always feel this. I always thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Due to my birthday in June and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>solar return portal, you know, kind of happening. But August

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<v Speaker 1>is that girl like August is so potent astrologically for

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<v Speaker 1>all the transformation, the potential of all the transformation that

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<v Speaker 1>can take place throughout the whole year. And I found

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<v Speaker 1>that most specifically whenever I work with the annual Lionsgate portal,

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<v Speaker 1>big release and big magic tends to happen in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Just really in the way I invite everyone to use astrology,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're super into it like some of us, or

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of you know, just looking on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>at your son's sign, or not into it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the magic is in your own self inquiry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I found when it comes to astrology. It's

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<v Speaker 1>reading what the potential of the energy is and finding

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<v Speaker 1>a way to maximize it. For yourself, and sometimes that

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<v Speaker 1>means maximizing the grief because you can read in the

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<v Speaker 1>transits or the astrology that perhaps you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>could judge as a rough periodist coming up. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying, how do I dive into that more deeply?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I use you know, this energy to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about myself and my life and what can be

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<v Speaker 1>transformed and surrender to it. And then you have periods

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<v Speaker 1>of astrology a lot like was what is happening in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways this month that also lean into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the possibility for the power in my life?

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<v Speaker 1>Something I want to avoid as I talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>astrology and eventually I want to talk about it in

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<v Speaker 1>another episode. Please don't set intentions around being or feeling seen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my personal urge and directive for each one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone is overly obsessed. I just hear it everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, being seen. I want to be seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really invite everyone what does that actually mean

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<v Speaker 1>to you and what is it that you think is unseen?

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<v Speaker 1>I've explored this a little bit on the show in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, but it feels really resonant right now because

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are really giving away

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<v Speaker 1>their power by searching for this idea, this belief that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone can fully see you or that's even how it's

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<v Speaker 1>designed to be. And I just really urge people to connect, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you really longing for? And when did that

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<v Speaker 1>longing start? What version of you do you need to

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<v Speaker 1>send a little more love to that felt unseen, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in your own household, because the greater world is never

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<v Speaker 1>going to be meet that need for any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I've met so many people on such spectrums of quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote being seen from the biggest superstars imaginable to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just us every day folks, you know, doing doing whatever

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be done. But no matter where you land,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no one has a sense that you're seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that repairs everything else in your life just

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<v Speaker 1>by that. Sometimes there is a deeper desire to be witnessed,

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<v Speaker 1>to be appreciated at work, to be appreciated in your household.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's so important that we don't outsource

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<v Speaker 1>our power by saying that the only way to meet

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<v Speaker 1>that need is through the gaze of another person or

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<v Speaker 1>through the validation of another person. So if that is

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<v Speaker 1>a theme that is coming up for you as you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this one. I recognize there may be some ch

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<v Speaker 1>and even hearing me say this, but investigate what the

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<v Speaker 1>need actually is and what you think you'll feel and

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<v Speaker 1>receive when you are quote unquote seen and what see?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the definition for that? How are you defining

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<v Speaker 1>that word?

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<v Speaker 2>See? N scene?

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<v Speaker 1>What is under that umbrella? What is the descriptive of that?

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like that's what the cure is for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just seeing it everywhere, And I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important to talk about because you're wasting time. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is ever going to fully see you like most of

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<v Speaker 1>your parents don't, most of your family members don't. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is life, this is the human experience. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you see you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've had many seasons of.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling that in terms of like work I've done, not

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<v Speaker 1>maybe being received or recognized, And okay, so it's on

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<v Speaker 1>God's time. You still got to do it. You still

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the good person even if no one notices.

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<v Speaker 1>You still got to do the work. Even if no

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<v Speaker 1>one notices whatever your work is, you still got to

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<v Speaker 1>show up as who you say.

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<v Speaker 2>You are even if no one notices.

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<v Speaker 1>And usually what I find is the shifting is you

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<v Speaker 1>create the boundaries up against the people, the situations, the

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances in your life where you are feeling small, and

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<v Speaker 1>you open yourself to the possibility and potential of being

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<v Speaker 1>in new environments and you do the regulating work necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to exist in those environments, and then you feel more

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<v Speaker 1>equally yoked and you can see another and they can

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<v Speaker 1>see you, and there's a resonance, and so you feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little more full, you feel a little more understood.

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<v Speaker 1>But being understood, feeling seen, being validated, it really is

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<v Speaker 1>is always inside work. There is no way to cheat that.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no one person to give that to you

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<v Speaker 1>to make it all make sense. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I just felt led to go into.

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<v Speaker 2>That whole little spiel, But Okay, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just something that I'm seeing around and I want us

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<v Speaker 1>to collectively watch that and ask questions about what the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling really is and how we can meet that need.

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<v Speaker 2>Because who do you think is looking?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is looking?

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<v Speaker 1>And what are these people going to do to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like what are you doing for the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at? What do you think that means? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, who's looking? Nobody is looking, You're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Most especially, I'm seeing so many people that most would

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<v Speaker 1>consider as being seen or having been seen, that are

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, and that are operating from that place, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is a place of lack. Who is it that

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<v Speaker 1>is worthy enough to bestow this upon you to make you.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel good about it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's important to ask that question, and why would you

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<v Speaker 1>outsource the entirety of your power and potential into that

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<v Speaker 1>person to validate who and what you are? And what

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<v Speaker 1>do you even know about them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? All right, I went there? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>So back to Lion's the gate working with this energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and that might be something you want to surrender in

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<v Speaker 1>this astrology, this is a period of time that many

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<v Speaker 1>people recognize as an opportunity for reflection, for courage, for intention,

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<v Speaker 1>and definitely for personal alignment. So, whether you approach it

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<v Speaker 1>from a spiritualist, symbolic or just simply a reflective perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that moments like this can really serve as

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<v Speaker 1>powerful invitations to pause, to edit, to evaluate where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>and to consciously choose or recommit to where we are headed.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I want to share a few reflections. First

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<v Speaker 1>that I had it with my time at Shaw Wellness

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<v Speaker 1>and explore what the Lions Skate Portal represents and offer

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<v Speaker 1>a few practices to help you move through this season

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<v Speaker 1>with just a little more clarity and intention. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about my time at Shaw Wellness.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do an Instagram post to and put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the photos I took on my substack.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my girlfriends, really special, lady Lauren Kleinman, she

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<v Speaker 1>went and she knows that I am always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>working on my physical health, and so she told me

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<v Speaker 1>about her experience and everything that she did, and she

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<v Speaker 1>offered to connect me with them. So full disclosure, I

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<v Speaker 1>was invited on this trip for free and had the

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<v Speaker 1>chance to experience it that way, outside of transportation, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm very grateful for the opportunity and i want

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<v Speaker 1>to share it with you in case you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>go or recreate it somehow for yourself where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So Shaw Wellness it's located in the Caribbean coast of Cancun, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>They also have a location.

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<v Speaker 1>In Spain, and it's one of the world's leading wellness

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<v Speaker 1>and longevity clinics. So some of the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>do there is. They integrate Western medicine, functional and preventive medicine, nutrition,

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<v Speaker 1>natural therapies, movement, sleep optimization, emotional well being, stress management, mindfulness,

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<v Speaker 1>and meditation, and the real focus is on creating sustainable health,

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<v Speaker 1>not just treating illness and symptoms. And so going into

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<v Speaker 1>that experience was really amazing for me as someone especially

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<v Speaker 1>that is already very locked in. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>treatment were things that I've discovered over my journey, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I implement. But then I also got

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<v Speaker 1>to do things with my body that I've never done before.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did like.

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<v Speaker 1>The VO two max testing. I did this other incredible

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<v Speaker 1>experience called Icarus, where you're in this machine and.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this VR setup.

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<v Speaker 1>All the pictures are going to be in my substack

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<v Speaker 1>in the videos. It was a lot and you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with the strength of your body. I met with an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing osteopath from France, which I'm so excited about finding

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that modality and trying to find it now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back in La So incredibly eye opening for me in

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways. I did body scanned, where we really

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<v Speaker 1>got to see in a very deep way my musculature

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<v Speaker 1>and my fasha I do a lot of fascia work

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<v Speaker 1>on myself as someone with chronic pain. I have hypermobile disorder,

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<v Speaker 1>so that does so many things to the body and fibromyalgia,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm always working with pain that some of it

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<v Speaker 1>is very triggered by the mind, So finding ways to

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<v Speaker 1>do the physical work, but then also finding the ways

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<v Speaker 1>to feel safe enough in your body that your muscles

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<v Speaker 1>can release and reorganize in a healthy way. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to go so much deeper on that

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<v Speaker 1>journey there having one on one time with my doctor there,

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<v Speaker 1>having I did an amazing consultation, uh consultation and advisory

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<v Speaker 1>session with a anti inflammatory nutritionist. That's a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to embark on more fully.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finding that, you know, no matter what else I do,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what potential meds or supplements that I take,

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<v Speaker 1>it really comes down to the fact that my body

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<v Speaker 1>has to eat very clean to feel healthy, to not

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<v Speaker 1>break down. And so I think for the last few years,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been retraining my taste to eat for function and

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<v Speaker 1>not eat for taste and flavor. And as a foodie

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that used to have a food blog, that's crazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working on it and also praying about it

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and journaling about it, and I've reached that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm excited to be on this new journey where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to eat far more intentionally and really distance

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<v Speaker 1>myself from foods that just cause me pain ultimately that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have to spend you know, that bite of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it takes twelve hours for you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>not to have pain or for you to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>yourself again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm at a place where.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just realizing, thank God, that I can release any

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:04.359
<v Speaker 1>addictions to those food oods and give myself what I

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 1>need and what I deserve. So it was very amazing

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to get that extra support. I also had this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to have a really amazing biofeedback session and acupuncture session

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that I'd never done before. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>someone that gets acupuncture, I mean so much like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just believe in it. I believe in the power of

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture, been doing it for probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and having these sessions that I just had

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<v Speaker 1>and realizing through these like bio energy feedback machines, some

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 1>areas that would be better to concentrate on shout out

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to Miguel. It was just, yeah, it changed me. It

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<v Speaker 1>really changed my configuration. So I needed that immersion and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is something that I can recreate at

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<v Speaker 1>home for myself when I have this space. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to require a lot of intention, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all should consider discovering when and if we

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<v Speaker 1>have the time, and I know in this season that

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>really may not be the case for some of us,

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<v Speaker 1>but if and when we have the time. I'm someone

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<v Speaker 1>that has experienced burnout, like true burnout several times in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, to where I've had to be hospitalized, to

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>where I developed in I twitch, to where I developed

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 1>honestly in autoimmune condition. So I take burnout very seriously

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and in my non podcasting work that I do one

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<v Speaker 1>on one in boarder rooms with leaders, it's so deep

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's so important to catch burnout before it really

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>settles into your body, because it can take one to

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<v Speaker 1>two years of really dedicated time to heal before you

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<v Speaker 1>can get back to who you were, and that's just

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>too much time to take off. It's too much time

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<v Speaker 1>to suffer. And so, you know something I had to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with myself about as a hyper independent person

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that has a Pluto complex and has been used to

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>doing all the things and powering through and you know,

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.639
<v Speaker 1>single mom life, woman life like we know, we know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to just keep going, even with our practices,

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<v Speaker 1>even with my daily meditation.

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 2>And going to Shaw wellness. This past week.

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<v Speaker 1>Was even more integrative and eye opening at the perfect time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been navigating a personal challenge and a personal betrayal.

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<v Speaker 2>And a personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Hardship for the last five and a half months privately,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized when I got to Shah that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in fight or flight for over five months and

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>there just wasn't this space to really do anything about that.

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>As is the case sometimes, right, I still was working,

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I was still traveling. I was still having mind blowing experiences,

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like my benevolent Queen Oprah being able to

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>interview her in can, like being a mom.

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>It's summer like.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, all of those things are happening, and some of

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>them are incredibly special, and I've been navigating like one

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of the hardest things I've ever been through that is

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 1>likely going to haunt me for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still not at the end road of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So my work this season has been, you know, how

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>do I hold all of it at the same time

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>when there is not a choice. It's not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those situations that we'll slow down, got it, I can't.

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking to slow down in the tiniest of

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<v Speaker 1>moments that that's possible, like when I'm on an airplane

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and not watching a movie and instead just breathing and

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>looking out the window, or you know, getting in a few.

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Extra epsom salt baths.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was my opportunity to reregulate, and it was

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>powerful to see that up close and to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to admit to myself that I have been suffering in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, you know, these

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>last few months, and that I needed that much space.

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I was able to have four days there, three full

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>days of working with treatment and the doctors and finding

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to just sit, rest and restore, and in real

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>time watching my body come down for fight or flight

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>was just such a powerful reminder as a leader and

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>as a facilitator of what it really feels like in

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the body and how to be with it, how to

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<v Speaker 1>move past it and then how to continue to tend

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to it once you're out of it. So yeah, I

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>went in actually so much more hypervigilant than I imagined,

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>even going into a space of healing, like my walls

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>were up. I was already kind of falsely assuming that,

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I wouldn't be understood or be helped.

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I just I had some calcification because

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I've had to be upright, you know, and strong in

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>this season. And so just the grace there of them

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 1>working with that and knowing that the surrender to the

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>longevity and health is part of it too, and then

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the finding like the real connective points of what my

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>unique body and circumstance requires. And you know, I think

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>if you ever are in an environment like this and

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you feel safe enough also sharing with the people in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you what you're holding. You know, when they

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I went in with the osteopath and you know, she

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was working with me, and she was just like, you know,

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>everything is in your body. You're not feeling safe in

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>your body and to be able to share, You're right,

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not, but it's not because of my trauma. It's

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 1>not because of my things, thank God anymore it's because

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>the way my life is designed, it surrounds me, and

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>so sometimes, especially in close circumstance with the nature of

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the work that I do, it just is it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be with me. There's no amount of energetic practices nervous

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>system regulation that can keep that off of me or

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>out of me.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 2>And so then when.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It's there, where do you find the time to really

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>tend to yourself? And so I want to pose that

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>question here and I'm going to dive even deeper into

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>my experience at Chawalness on the substack. I'm going to

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>break down every treatment I had and some of the

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>incredible food that I was served. They design your diet too,

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>so everything was anti inflammatory or also referred to as microbiotic, and.

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful. It was delicious, but it.

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Was also completely resetting to my body. It was natural,

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>intentional medicine and I got to kind of watch that

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>flow over the course of three days. So that was

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty epic, pretty powerful. So dive more into the

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>substack coming in this next week. You can subscribe there

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and all the things, but it's called self care Simplified,

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be diving into that process. But I want

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to leave this little inquiry for this part of what

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I want you to really look at your

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>life right now, what it's made of. I want you

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to look at the scaffolding. I'm not going to sit

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>here and tell you add more self care practices if

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>there's just not the time, Because sometimes we're in it.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>We're in it and in ways we don't even want

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to be. But there's just not this space or time

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>for anything about it to change. What I do want

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you to do, if that is your circumstance, is say,

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>where are the micro moments that I can plug a

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>couple things in, even just to make myself smile, even

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>just to slow down enough to hold your tension points.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's in my traps and so, which is

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>very indicative holding all the things, the weights on the shoulders.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>But when I have moments, you know, I can't always

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>get these knots out or get it to calm, but

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I can close my eyes and take a breath and say,

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I recognize an honor all that you're holding. It is

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<v Speaker 1>safe to be in my body. I am safe to

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<v Speaker 1>be in my body. I am safe to be in

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<v Speaker 1>my body. I'm safe to be in my body. Doing

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<v Speaker 1>something like that that is unique to you and your

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<v Speaker 1>process and what you're walking through can be It can

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<v Speaker 1>really be the peace to just help you sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>A little better.

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<v Speaker 1>Connect to faith, connect to hope, activate that language with

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<v Speaker 1>your body and that transmission that we can give ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So think about where you can do that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Also like you to take a moment to look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>in your life in the future. I don't care how

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<v Speaker 1>far out it is, but whenever you see a free day,

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<v Speaker 1>or a free half day, or a free cluster of hours,

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<v Speaker 1>block it out. Use that time to connect to a

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<v Speaker 1>practice you can find someone self care simplified or Google

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<v Speaker 1>or my book wherever you find it, but pick out

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of those things, turn your phone off. You

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<v Speaker 1>may think it won't be enough because what you're walking.

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<v Speaker 2>Through is too deep and vast.

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<v Speaker 1>It will matter. It will bring some relief. It will

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<v Speaker 1>give you an opportunity to just be with the truth

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<v Speaker 1>of your life, the truth of your body, the truth

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<v Speaker 1>of who you are, truth of the present moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>Put aside that time, even if you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do with it yet, just make the

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<v Speaker 1>container and commit to using that time on yourself, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>on your body in a nourishing way. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to stop there with that, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>we close out this episode, I want to dive into

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<v Speaker 1>this astrology a little bit. There's a couple interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that Lionscate portal. We are currently at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Jane Child. We are currently at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of July, fastly moving into August twenty twenty six. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these transits happen roughly around the same

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<v Speaker 1>time every August. We're getting into eclipse season, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have I believe two full moons this August one new moon,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a solar eclipse, we have a lunar eclipse,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a Jupiter Casimi, we have of lions Gate,

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<v Speaker 1>and a few more things. This spicy, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>So just think about, you know, what are some intentions

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<v Speaker 1>to become a little bit more embodied in your life

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<v Speaker 1>and in who you say you are with daily choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Through daily choices, Leo energy in general is Leo's season.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my Leos. I am a Leo rising.

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<v Speaker 1>Leo represents whatever sign you are courage, authentic, self expression, creativity, leadership, confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>living from the heart instead of fear. So how can

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<v Speaker 1>you lean into those feelings? This season with intention questions

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<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself? You know, where am I hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>my life? And I don't just mean from a be

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<v Speaker 1>seen visibility perspective, like where are you hiding in one

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<v Speaker 1>on one conversations with people? Where are you hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations you have with yourself? Where are you hiding

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror your reflection? And where are you seeking

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<v Speaker 1>approval instead of authenticity? Where are you accidentally giving away

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<v Speaker 1>your power by projecting it on to some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an authority figure instead of gathering yourself for yourself. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about the difference between manifestation and alignment. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>a manifestation gally. You have never heard me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that in detail on this show or anywhere. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily buy into manifestation culture because mostly the way I

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<v Speaker 1>hear it in the mainstream, it's just not rooted in gratitude.

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<v Speaker 1>What I always look for and ask for is alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>When alignment happens for me, that's when everything else is

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<v Speaker 1>able to rise.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But just looking at manifestation, sometimes it can happen. You

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<v Speaker 1>can like manifest You know that bag of money or

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<v Speaker 1>this opportunity or that, but it's not really lasting presence.

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<v Speaker 1>Only alignment brings that. So rather than treating manifestation this season,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're working with the moon's energy or the astrological

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<v Speaker 1>energy as simply wishing for outcomes, especially financial invisibility, just

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<v Speaker 1>understand alignment comes first. Check in with what your values

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<v Speaker 1>are before your vision. Most visions I find that many

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<v Speaker 1>people have are really just rooted in Instagram aspiration. They're

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in comparison and in someone else's structure for what

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<v Speaker 1>a dream or success is that you're trying to replicate

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<v Speaker 1>or compare to. So just notice that, observe it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Integrity before opportunity really something that think about and habits

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<v Speaker 1>before transformation. If you're praying or asking or looking to

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote manifest transformation in your life, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>habits and the devotions and the disciplines you are connecting

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<v Speaker 1>to in order to do that. Manifestation is not only

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<v Speaker 1>about attracting things, it's about becoming and then being able

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<v Speaker 1>to sustain whatever it is that you've magnetized to you. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some questions as we end this episode and you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that some soul work to consider through the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of this month energetically. What chapter am I ready to close?

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<v Speaker 1>What identity no longer fits who I'm becoming? What habits

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<v Speaker 1>support the life I say I want? What conversations have

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<v Speaker 1>I been avoiding? Where is life asking me to be

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<v Speaker 1>more courageous? And what would I pursue if fear wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>making my decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful? All right in there?

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