1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Amy and TJ. And we are very excited 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: about this edition of our podcast because it is season six, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: the final season of Handmaid's Tale. Every woman I know 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: is obsessed with it. We have discussions about each episode 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: after they're over, and Wow, this season has already begun 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: with a bang. But I want to make sure everyone 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: knows who's listening. We are not going to give away 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: any spoilers in case you haven't started the new season yet, 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: but the first three episodes dropped on April eighth, and 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: then there are new episodes that roll out every Tuesday. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: So this is exciting. It only gets sad when they're 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: all gone. So we still have so many more to 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: consume and so many plot lines to follow. And we're 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: going to assume that if you're already listening to this episode, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: you're likely a fan of Handmaid's Tale. But if you 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: don't know it's premise, let me give you just a 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: quick synopsis. The series is set in a fictional community 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: we can call it that called Gilead. It's a society 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: that has basically taken over the United States after an 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: environmental disaster has left most women unable to have children, 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: so it takes the few remaining fertile women and forces 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: them into sexual servitude to have children for childless couples. Essentially, 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: women are property of Gilead. And we have one of 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: the stars from Handmaid's Tale with us. She plays Rita, 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: who at the beginning of the series plays a Martha, 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: which is basically a maid or a domestic worker for 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: these Gilead families. And she is the Martha for a 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: very prominent Gilead family. And I want to say here 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: that TJ wanted to be with us on this podcast, 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: but he's feeling a bit under the weather, so he 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: sends his regards because he was very excited as well 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to be talking to the one and only Amanda Brugal. 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: So Amanda, thank you for coming on the podcast, and 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: thank you for talking with us. I'm so excited to 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: have you on. 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: You're welcome. I'm so excited to meet you and to 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: discuss all that is Handmaids. 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, do you have these same conversations with 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: your girlfriends even though you know what's coming and you 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: know what's about to happen. Do you still find yourself 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: having debriefs with the women in your life. 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, not really. I mean, I think because 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: they're with me throughout it. It's got every week, they 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: were together almost every day, so they know what's coming up. 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: What I do love is having conversations with complete strangers 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: on the street, Like it's the one thing I found 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: in my life, the one job that suddenly all sort 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: of weird social contracts are out the window and suddenly 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm hugging people in the street or bonding or telling 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: really intimate stories with complete strangers. And it's the thing 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: I love about art, but specifically this show. It just 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: just throws all of the formalities to decide and we're hugging. 53 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: You know what? That is so interesting? That makes so 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: much sense because this is a show that touches on 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: so many I would say, deep seated fears or maybe 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: not that deep seated among women about our role in society, 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: and especially given today's political climate, perhaps even more so 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: over the last several years, certainly since Handmaid's Tale has 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: come out, there have been so many eerily similar things happening, 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: parallel things happening in politics that I think the show 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: even probably had more significance and more prominence than ever 63 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: before because all of a sudden women are thinking, my god, 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: could that happen here? Or are we on a path 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: where that could one day in the future happen. What 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: do people say to you when they come up to you. 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean people ask me how It's almost like they 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: want my advice, like will this happen? Is it close? 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: What should I do? And so I have to sort 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: of feel like sometimes a therapist to sort of say 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: to them that were, although it seems close, we're not 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: quite there yet. I too, am just as afraid. I 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: don't really have any secrets of how to navigate fictitious gilliad. 74 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: A lot of people talk to me about watching it 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: with their children, not children, but the sort of teen daughters, 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: how to navigate conversations with them, and just really people 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: looking ultimately for my advice and how to navigate gilliad, 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: How to navigate if this were to happen, and then 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: what would I do? 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: That is wild. I did not expect you to say that, 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: But then when you say it, I guess it makes sense. 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: But were you prepared for any of that? 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: No, not at all. I mean I did. What's interesting 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: about the book is that I'm Canadian, and so I 85 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: read the book when I was fifteen, was obsessed with 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: the book. In love with the book. I wrote my 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: thesis on it to get into university. I didn't know 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: if I was waiting to stop children a writer. Yeah, 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know an actor or writer. And to get 90 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: into the writing program, I chose the Handmaid's Tale. I 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: chose to write it on the book, but I chose 92 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: to write it on Rita. 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: This was in Night You've got to be kidding me No. 94 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety six, and so Rita has 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: been with me for a long time. 96 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: So I do feel a little bit like a Handmaid's 97 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: Tale expert, but not so much so where I can 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: help others navigate their lives. 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: That is such a full circle moment, crazy. Can you 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: take me back to the moment when you first auditioned 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: and were you auditioning specifically for this role that you 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: wrote your thesis around. 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: I was, well, you know, the casting director in Canada, 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: I talked so much about the book. It's like I 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: had shares, like I was trying to push the book 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: on people, had copies in my pocket. The Canadian casting 107 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: director knew for years how much I loved the book, 108 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: and she said, oh, the book that you like, I 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm casting for it, and she said, I'm not. I'm 110 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: going to bring you in so you can speak the lines. 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: You're not going to get it. It's going to go 112 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: to an American, but just just so you can come 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: in and audition. And so that first audition I was 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: there and Bruce Miller, our showrunner, and Read Morano, our 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: director who started this whole ball rolling, were there and 116 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: we just talked openly about the book, and I gave 117 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: my advice and how I thought what I thought some 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: mistakes were thinking I wouldn't get the job, but I 119 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: think it's they felt my passion for it, and so 120 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: I got the job. 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: What was it about Rita that spoke to you for 122 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: all these years? 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 2: You know? I think Martha's are really interesting. I really 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: feel like they are not unlike a lot of black 125 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: women in this world in which we are asked to 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: be seen and not heard or people of service. In 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: the book, Rita is not a woman of color. But 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: I just felt such a kinship with her, and she's 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: quite mysterious, and I made up all sorts of backstories 130 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: for her even before this became a television show. I 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: just felt like she was a kindred spirit. 132 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Wow. And yes, the Martha's due take on this other role. 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: They're not the ones that are providing children, and yet 134 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: they're having to provide everything for the family and almost 135 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: be of service to the Handmaid's Tale. Sorry, the Handmaids 136 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: as well. You know from what I've I have not 137 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: read the book, but obviously I've watched every single episode 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: of every single season of Handmaid's Tale, and the Martha's 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of have to do it all. They are the 140 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: unsung heroes in the story. 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I call myself, especially for this season. 142 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: It's I've always thought of her as the secret weapon 143 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: or sort of the silent unsung hero, providing emotional support, 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: providing sometimes physical support, and the many times she has 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: helped June escape, although June keeps coming back. Yeah, they 146 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: are the women who fight without weapons who women like 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: that are always the most interesting to me. They have 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: a very very large impact with a very small sort 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 2: of verbal bite. They don't make a lot of noise, 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: but they make they influence the world greatly. 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Wow. That's that's incredible and such a good way to 152 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: put it. So this is the final season, how do 153 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you feel about that. Are you ready to move on? 154 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Are you ready to you think it was time for 155 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: it to be over? 156 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I want to say, and I don't 157 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: want to all for it to be mistaken. I said, 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: I want to get the heck out of here. But 159 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: like it's almost been ten years amy, and you know, 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: in television we don't get that, Like it's I feel 161 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: so lucky to have been a part of something for 162 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: almost a decade. All of us have changed, We've been 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: through like personally, marriages, children, divorce separately outside of our characters, 164 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: we have navigated life together for almost a decade. So 165 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: to have that and to grow with these people who 166 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: I love, I feel so lucky. But also the fact 167 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: that we get to end the story on our terms, 168 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: Like it's not like something for two years we loved 169 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: and suddenly the chord was yanked and it was we 170 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: had to finish the show. So it feels like the 171 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: perfect ending that we can control and that we've taken 172 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: everything that we can and now it's time to move on. 173 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: And we're all quite frankly, just thrilled, thrilled that we 174 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: got the chance and thrilled to move on. 175 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I love hearing that It makes me feel better being 176 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: over knowing that you all are also like you're like, 177 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's good. It served its purpose, but now 178 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: there are other projects and other things to do. How 179 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: would you describe this season compared to the others? I know, 180 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: I said, and certainly anyone who loves the show wouldn't 181 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: want to know anything about what's coming, But how would 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: you describe this season compared to the others? 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: You know? I think to me, the season the moment 184 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: I started really reading it and getting into the scripts. 185 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: It's a love letter for fans. It is to me. 186 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: It unfolds in all of the ways that fans have 187 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: been wanting it to unfold. Passion. There is such an 188 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: inertia towards a sort of a rebellion, and I know 189 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: there are Handmaids has twists and turns, but there really 190 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: is so much more action, and the action pays off 191 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: without soiling it in a way that fans have been 192 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: wanting it, been needing it to. And so I really 193 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: feel like it's the season for the fans, and people 194 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: can come back to me and question me afterwards, but 195 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: I promise it's going to pay off. 196 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: That is very exciting. I love hearing that did you 197 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: have a favorite episode in this stretch in this season? 198 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so many, Amy, Yes, Yes, I have to. 199 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: I have too. 200 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I have you have said it. 201 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: I have two. I have the there Oh gosh, I've 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: almost spoiled it. I have the second to last and 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: then the last. There's just it's like the everything falls 204 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: apart and then hopefully it comes back together. And those 205 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: are my favorites. 206 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: That is very exciting because there's something to wait for, 207 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: right The second to last and the last episode are 208 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the big payoffs, and they were your favorites. All right, 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: that's exciting. That makes me even more anticipatory of Tuesdays, 210 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: like Tuesday Nights. How difficult is it? I mean it 211 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: sounds like you're feeling really good about everything and you're 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: excited about new projects and all of that. But is 213 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: it hard? Was it hard to say goodbye to Rita? 214 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: Yes? And no. I mean it was on the last day, luckily, 215 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: and this is not spoiling anything. On the last day, 216 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't by myself. I had other cast mates with me, 217 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: and I had had the pleasure of wrapping out and 218 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: out aunt Lydia, I saw Ot and so I had 219 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: had the pleasure of sort of being able to be 220 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: there with my people and say goodbye to them as well. 221 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: So when it was my turn, it didn't feel strange. 222 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: It just felt we were all just slowly, one after one, 223 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: jumping off the cliff and saying goodbye. And so that 224 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: was that was It was sad because it was it's 225 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: you take for granted that I just don't get to 226 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: do this every year. So that was that was sad. 227 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: But Rita is so much a part of me now 228 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: that I feel like if I miss her without sounding insane, 229 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: I can just I can just talk to her like 230 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: she's with me, And so I don't feel like I 231 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: feel like I've become so close to her and my 232 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: relationship with her before. I feel like I just always 233 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: have her with me, which I love so much, so 234 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: that I have to be careful not to have her 235 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: sort of sneak out into other performances. I'm in another 236 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: television show right now, currently working on the second season 237 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: of Dark Matter at an Apple show, and I played 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: Jennifer Connolly's best friend. We were doing a scene the 239 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: other day and I kind of went back into just 240 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: instinctively went back into sort of a Rita like physical 241 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: stance and my mannerisms, and I had to be like, wait, 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: wrong universe, wrong show, wrong person, And so that's something 243 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: I have to make sure I'm careful of. But she's 244 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: always with me. 245 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. And Jennifer Connelly love her. 246 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: We ran the New York City Marathon with her. She 247 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: is a blast. She killed it, by the way. She 248 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: was amazing in that marathon. She just it was her 249 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: first one. She got up and she blew past me. 250 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: She was rocking it. 251 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: She's amazing. I feel this is another thing that I 252 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: feel so lucky, and this is why I'm excited, not 253 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: excited to leave, but excited to go off and do 254 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: other things. I feel so lucky in my career at 255 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, forty eight years old, that I get to 256 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: meet and experience friendships and like a deep relationship with 257 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: all of these phenomenal women and out Elizabeth Moss, Jennifer Connelly, 258 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Alici Braga who's also in Dark Matter. It's been such 259 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: a treat to get to know her because she really 260 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: is a force. 261 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I love hearing women also just rally, and that's part 262 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: of what Handmaid's Tale is all about, just seeing that 263 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: female sisterhood. You know, we talk so much about how 264 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: we pit each other, pit ourselves against one another, and 265 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: cat bit's not. It's so awesome when you hear genuine 266 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: stories about just genuine people supporting one another and making 267 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: brilliant art together. I love hearing about that, and we 268 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: need to hear more about that. I'm I'm curious about 269 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: you take on such heavy topics. I mean, there is 270 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of death, there is rape, there is I mean, 271 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: you name it. You guys have portrayed it and acted 272 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: through it and done so brilliantly. But what is it 273 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: like in the breaks when you're dealing with such heavy, 274 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: heavy material, Like I'm just wondering on this set, you 275 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily break out of character or get 276 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: out of that mood. But I'm just curious how you 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: hand and navigated through all of that darkness with so 278 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: many awesome bright lights of beautiful women and actors and 279 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: actresses there on the set. 280 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, you said it perfectly. I think because specifically 281 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: the casts are all such bright, warm lights because we 282 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: do trust one another and have such good relationships. But 283 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: also each individual personality is so funny. The actors on 284 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: the show are the funniest some of the funniest people 285 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: I've worked with, and I've traditionally had worked on comedies 286 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: before Handmaids that those moments that you're talking about in 287 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: between the takes were sometimes so light, so funny, so 288 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: filled with levity and laughter that we had to remind 289 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: ourselves that were on the set of The Handmaid's Tale. 290 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Because we do get along, and because none of us 291 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: are really that hard core into method, we would almost 292 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: use those breaks as moments to lift one another up 293 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: through laughter, through humor, and then because we know the 294 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: characters so well, it was an easier transition to slide 295 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: back in. But I will say they are the happiest, 296 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: lightest moments that I've ever had on a set. We're 297 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: on the set of The Handmaid's Tail, which is so strange. 298 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: I get it, though you have to let the air out. 299 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: I can only relate in a little bit just as 300 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: a journalist when we are at worst case scenarios. You know, 301 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: terror attacks, school shootings, all of that, and you've got 302 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: all of us together that we know the different stations 303 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: and different folks, but you're on the scene of this 304 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: horrible tragedy, and yet somehow you got to take a 305 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: break from it. You got to be able to go 306 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: to lunch and decompressed. You got to be able to 307 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: have a beer and have a laugh or something, because 308 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: you can't live in that darkness the whole time. So 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: that actually makes sense to have that relief, for that release, 310 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: to then go back into some very dark but important 311 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: subject matter. That makes a whole lot of sense for me. 312 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: How did it feel, Obviously you all had to have 313 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: talked about you were as you were doing the show, 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and you've been acting it in the middle of a 315 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of political upheal here in this country. How did 316 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: it feel to maneuver through what was happening in this 317 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: country versus specifically, you know, even Roe v. Wade being overturned, 318 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: those sorts of things where women genuinely, legitimately feel fear 319 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: that somehow they're not going to have control over their 320 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: own health. How did you navigate that as an actress 321 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: and as a person, as a woman. 322 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, at the beginning, it felt, I don't 323 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: want to say surreal, but because I feel like that's 324 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: sort of downplaying it, but it was sort of surreal. 325 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: It was something that was strange at the time, but 326 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: it wasn't as serious. We had no idea this was. 327 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: We started filming this in twenty sixteen, we had no 328 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: inkling of where we were headed, and so we would 329 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: comment on how strange it was or how odd it 330 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: felt that there was still a bit of a separation. 331 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: As the years went by, and as we got closer 332 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: and closer to the narrative of the story being the 333 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: narrative of our real lives, that's when conversations started to 334 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: turn a lot more serious. We felt a considerable amount 335 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: of pressure to ensure that we tell the stories accurately, 336 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: but also separately in our personal lives, a considerable amount 337 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: of pressure to become just more politically outspoken. Not to 338 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: say that I wasn't proud. I didn't even really like 339 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: the word feminist, because I just feel like that's just 340 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: the idea of being a woman, but just not. I 341 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: was quite verbal in my beliefs before, but suddenly as 342 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: the seasons went by, I feel and have felt a 343 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: responsibility to speak out against oppression of women, to speak 344 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: out against things that I thought were getting out of control. 345 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm Canadian, so in Canada especially a pressure to feel 346 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: just more politically outspoken. 347 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes a lot of sense. And 348 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: how did it play? I mean, did it affect you 349 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: at all? Being Canadian versus American? Did you feel like 350 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: you could say more because you were you were watching it, 351 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: you weren't maybe you weren't experiencing it, you weren't subject 352 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: to what was happening, but you could actually from an 353 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: objective point of view, almost being Canadian, and say things 354 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: maybe perhaps that even an American might be a little 355 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: worried about saying. 356 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: Hesitant to say. I certainly did, but I also felt, 357 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: What's interesting, and no one's ever asked this, I felt, 358 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: and I still feel, quite protective over Americans. Half of 359 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: my cast are Americans. Were telling a show that takes 360 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: place in Boston, although it was written by a Canadian, 361 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: and I love America. I love Americans, and so I 362 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: felt a protectiveness when, particularly speaking to Canadian journals of 363 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: my American counterparts to sort of suggest that we can't 364 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: paint everyone with the same brush, and just feel a 365 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: very sense of protectiveness against America in general. 366 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: Huh, that's very cool. And something else that's very cool. 367 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: You got this role, and I'd imagine this is one 368 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: of those roles for you, especially having written about written 369 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: her thesis about Rita is a dream role, a dream job. 370 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: You got it at the age of thirty seven? When 371 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: did you start acting and how did you like? Can 372 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: you give me an idea of how you got from 373 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: graduating from college to thirty seven landing the role of 374 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: a lifetime and for a woman that's not very typical. 375 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: You usually need to hit it hot early on or 376 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: you've aged out. 377 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: Girl, girl, I know I'm good to do? Are you? Oh? 378 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: My us Amy tell it to the world. Holy well, 379 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: I uh well, then you probably know and can relate. 380 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: It's I had made peace with the fact that I 381 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: was doing okay in Canada, and peace with the fact 382 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: that I was just sort of going to be a 383 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: really hard, boots on the ground working actor and I 384 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: was happy doing that. It's a difficult job, and so 385 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: I was happy just being able to make ends meet 386 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: and make a life a living for myself. So suddenly 387 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: getting this and then it changing the course of my life, 388 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: changing everything about my life was sort of a miracle 389 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: and something that it took me a while to accept, 390 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. It took me a while to 391 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: believe it, to settle into myself, to allow it to happen, 392 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: to allow myself permission to have success at a late age, 393 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: to allow myself permission to also enjoy that, to not 394 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: sort of apologize for it or shrink away. I earned it. 395 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: A lot changed for me. Right around the time I 396 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: got Handmaids, I got divorced, so I left a marriage 397 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 2: that wasn't working for me. I had two young children. 398 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: I was able to buy a home, and so suddenly 399 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: it felt like the life that's supposed to happen at 400 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: twenty two, the one that everyone tells you. You land 401 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: the job, get the house, and you start this crazy life. 402 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: I started it as my second chapter and it was 403 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: is has still been the most beautiful, wonderful journey that 404 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: I've gone on and that I'm the most proud of. 405 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Because I'm older, I was older, so I was able 406 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: to navigate it. 407 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Differently, and that's incredibly inspirational for all of us women 408 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: who are, you know, older, we're not in our twenties. 409 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: It's a different feeling and a different perspective to get 410 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: a job like that later, or even having to start 411 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: over or to keep looking. But I think that's a 412 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: huge reminder to everybody that we shouldn't put limits on 413 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: ourselves and we in age is just a number, but 414 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: we do. I in my mind, I am like I 415 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: only have this many years, or I'm I'm not valuable anymore. 416 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a market anymore. I can't do what 417 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: I love anymore because I'm too old. That is in 418 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: so many women's heads. It's certainly in mind. But I 419 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: love love seeing someone like you do what you've done 420 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: as brilliantly as you have, and to inspire other people 421 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that it's never too late, and you never know. As 422 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: long as you work hard and you're prepared, you never 423 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: know what's down the pike. But you fought for it. 424 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: You fought for you went in there when you were 425 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: told you weren't going to get it, when you told hey, 426 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: this is just a let's have some fun. But you 427 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: knew this role. You knew this character, you knew the story, 428 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: and that passion paid off. 429 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. I knew if there was going to be 430 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: any chance to get anything, it was going to be 431 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: this role, so I did kind of. I'll tell you. 432 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: I was looking around and a lot of my friends 433 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: who will listen to this were in the room with me. 434 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: But in my head, I wanted to say to them, 435 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: go home, go home. This is that I'm not like 436 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 2: that at all. Is an ask I always mine, you know, 437 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: if the role will come and if it's meant to be, 438 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: it's meant to be. I was like, go home, I will, 439 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: I'll pay your parking for you. It's not yours, it's 440 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: not your time. It's the only time I done. I 441 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: know we have to do that. But back to your point, 442 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: I still do. I still I find myself doing that. 443 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: I find myself talking out of plans that i've you know, 444 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm making for the future, of thinking oh I'm too 445 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: old and oh I don't have the time. But the 446 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: thing that helps me is I feel a sense of 447 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: responsibility for the women coming up to sort of rewrite 448 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: the narrative so they don't put those limits on themselves. 449 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I feel like we I had at least a couple 450 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: women sort of whisper in my ear and say, don't 451 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: believe that, don't buy into that crap. And so I feel, 452 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: now being forty eight, a sense of responsibility to turn 453 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: around to the people coming up behind me saying, oh gosh, 454 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: don't do that, and if I can, I did it, 455 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: you do it. I still have twenty five more years 456 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: to rediscover myself and then then I'll discuss. But right now, 457 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: you and I we have time, plenty of time. 458 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I just love reminding other women and 459 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: myself of that as much as possible. So you mentioned 460 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: you are. What's that behind you? By the way, for 461 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: people who can't see, if people are just listening, You've 462 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: got a chalkboard behind you with how many here? And 463 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: I see a numerical fraction behind you? Can you can tell? 464 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm so distracted to you. We are currently 465 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: teaching my youngest son fractions. It's actually my partner who's 466 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: doing it. I don't know fractions. Math was not my specialty. 467 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: It was literature and English, and so this is our 468 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: h this is our breakfast area, and so we just 469 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: we eat breakfast and learn fractions. I'm joining class too, 470 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: I'm learning fractions. Well, so that's what we do. 471 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So tell me about 472 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: the show you're on now again, Dark Matter, and what 473 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: else you have brewing right now in your booming career 474 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: at the age of forty eight. 475 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: Thank you well. Dark Matter it's the second season of 476 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: an Apple show, also based on a book I think 477 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: that's just now my destiny. I'm just going to go 478 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: from places to places and sort of make books into 479 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: art that are already art, into moving art. It is 480 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, how do I talk about dark matter? Essentially, 481 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: it's a world based on the idea that if we 482 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: were to go into different universes but as the same person, 483 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: but different different timelines, who would we be? Who would 484 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: we meet? Would we have the same people in our lives? 485 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Would we have the same relationships someone you've always had 486 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: a crush on. Maybe that's your husband in one world, 487 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: and in another world it could be a person just 488 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: passing you on the street. So it's just really examining 489 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: relationships just in different timelines, which is the best I 490 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: can describe it, Jiel. That's very cool, Yeah, Jennifer Connolly. 491 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: It did really well the first season, and now this 492 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: season I'm a regular because I have time to do it, 493 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: and so it's we have a lot of things brewing 494 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: this season. It's really exciting. 495 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent going to be checking that out. 496 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: What is your character and how does she play? What 497 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: does she do? 498 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: Then I play my characters. I play Jennifer Connelly like 499 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: as I said her best friend Blair. But I'm a scientist, 500 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: one of the scientists that created this machine in which 501 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: you were able to travel between timelines and without spoiling it. 502 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm one of many Blairs, and so there are different 503 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: versions of me, which is so cool. 504 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: That's amazing, I. 505 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: Know, especially as an actor playing the same role for 506 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: ten years. I love her. I love Rita, but to 507 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: now be able to play someone new and play different 508 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: versions of her is sort of like the best way 509 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: to sort of say goodbye to one character and enjoy 510 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: another one. 511 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: Say hello to ten Blairs or whatever. But that's amazing. 512 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I love that, you know, Amanda, I really appreciate you 513 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: speaking with me and talking all things Handmaid's Tale, and 514 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: just I love learning about I did not know that 515 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: the story about how you auditioned, and that's just it's 516 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: so inspiring to see women a pursuing things they love, 517 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: not giving up, not listening to the noise, and forging 518 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: your own path. You are an inspiration and you are 519 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: paving the way. So thank you for all that you do. 520 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: I cannot obviously, I'm watching all of Handmaid's Tale and 521 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: then I'm moving on to Dark Matter. So it was 522 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: a pleasure talking to you today. Thank you so much 523 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: for being on the podcast. 524 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Thank you for having me