1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay and Buck 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Show here. Thanks so much for being with us on 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: this Friday. We got a lot to discuss. This will 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: give you a sense of where we're going. We have 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: doctor Marty McCarry in just about twenty minutes or so 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: so bottom of this hour radio speak. All natural immunity 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: turns out, not only is it a thing, but it's 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: a really powerful thing. And it was suppressed by the 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: fauci apparatus because it would have interfered with the libs 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: preferred narrative of comply, comply, peasant. What if I have 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: natural immunity, silence your natural immunity. We'll talk to doctor 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: McCarry about that one, plus Senator Ron Johnson in the 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: second hour of the show today from Wisconsin, of course, 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: and our buddy in the third hour, Will Caine from 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Fox News. There is allegedly a sporting event of some 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: kind that is occurring this weekend. Clay A has detail 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: on this one, and Clay and Will will discuss and 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: I will ask them some questions like what is this 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: thing that is going on? But first We've got two 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: big threads, two big things going on simultaneously, and we're 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: going to spend some real time on them today. One 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: of course, is the trucker convoy. The authorities are losing 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: their minds over this one. They've already lost patience, but 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: they're realizing that they have no good answer to this. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: And I saw one of the more absurd blue check 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: libs out there in National Security Analysis World from CNN said, 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: slash the tires, remove the trucks, and arrest them all. 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, good luck with the slash tires. Then 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: removing all the trucks. That might take some time, but nonetheless, 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: we'll get into the Canadian convoy and is this going 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to break the Trudeau tyranny? Because that's really what's at stake. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: But first, you may have seen the mass mandates are 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: being dropped in a number of states. The Biden regime 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: has weighed in on this one, and Clay and I 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: just want to make some sense of what's really going 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: on here. You know, it's politics, it's not science. You 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: know that that's that's clear already. Where does good old 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden think that he sees the politics right now? 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: What is his view, his version of all of this. 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: He says essentially that he thinks they're moving to let's 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: let's see play clip twenty three. We've got omicron and 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: the variant. All the variants have had a profound impact 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: on the psyche to American people. I mean they have, 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: They've had a profound impact. For example, think of all 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: the kids who didn't get to go to a prom, 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: all these graduations that didn't occur, all the things that 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's had a real psychological impact. Are you 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: afraid though, that some states and cities are moving too 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: quickly to loosen indoor mask mandates? Probably committed that I 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: would follow the science. The science has put forward by 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: the CDC and the and the and the federal people. 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: And I think it's probably premature, but it's you know, 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a tough call. Play the missing of proms 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: and weddings and funerals and all. Now they want to 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: talk about how they made us do all this stuff 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: for the last year that was totally unnecessary. You could 58 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: argue it was unecessary from the very beginning. For what 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I love this too, because it, first of all, Joe 60 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Biden is not leading so when you're asked is it 61 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: too soon? What should be going on? And you don't 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: really give an answer. We were talking off airbuck before 63 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: we started the show, how many blue states left have 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: not begun to lift restrictions. I mean just in recent 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: vintage history, right, this week we got New York, we 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: got California, We've got Massachusetts, Delaware, Nevada. I mean, all 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: these states that were won by Democrats in twenty twenty 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: are effectively ending their restrictions. And this morning when I 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: woke up, there was a headline from the New York 70 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: Times and it said follow the science question mark. This 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: is the New York Times opening paragraph. The CDC describes 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: medium rare hamburgers as undercooked and dangerous. The agency directs 73 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Americans to avoid raw cookie dough and not to eat 74 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: more than a teaspoon or so of salt every day. 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: And the CDC tells sexually active women of childbearing age 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: not to drink alcohol unless they are on birth control. 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: The point is, follow the science is something that almost 78 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: no one does on every issue, right, And really, what 79 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the CDC should have been given some some deference to 80 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: is balancing risk reward. And we can be upset at 81 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: the experts, and I am really upset at the experts, 82 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: the Fauci's of the world, the Lena Wins and experts 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: in quotation Mark here, the Rachelle Willinski's, all those people 84 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: buck But to me, I'm angrier at politicians because when 85 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: you really boil it down, what you are voting for 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: is a politicians judgment, and you can't, just as Joe 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Biden tried to do there as well, you can't just 88 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: avoid making decisions as a leader by saying you're going 89 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: to defer and follow the science, because the science, as 90 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: you and I both know, has been messi throughout and 91 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: that completely obviates the need of you. Because we vote 92 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: for politicians. We don't vote for doctor Fauci, unfortunately, I'd 93 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: love to see him remove from office. We don't vote 94 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: for the CDC director. These are people that are enabled 95 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: and empowered by politicians, which is why we have to 96 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: hold them all accountable and have a destructive midterms for 97 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Democrats in terms of actually making there be some consequences 98 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: for their abject failures. Here the New York Times, coming 99 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: out now among many other outlets, Clay making arguments that 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: we have been making going on now two years, certainly 101 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: a year, year and a half, depending on the specific 102 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: argument we're talking about. And what everyone is seeing right 103 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: now is the realization, and I do think it is 104 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: swiping across the country that somehow the bureaucrats who want 105 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: to literally tell you what temperature to order your cheeseburger, 106 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I've been able to shut down your church, mask up 107 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: your kids, shut down your business. Make you get one shot, 108 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: two shot, three shot, maybe four shots. The people who 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: tell you oysters can kill you, technically true, but so 110 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: can drinking too much water too fast, by the way, 111 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: and you can look that one up. Those are the 112 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: people who have been in charge of every aspect of 113 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: our society under the promise that they were going to 114 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: flatten the curve, which they failed to do, stop the spread, 115 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: which they failed to do, save large amounts of human 116 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: life they also failed to do. So what exactly have 117 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: we gone through? Are you sitting here saying what was 118 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: the tradeoff? Clay? I mean, Faucci is gonna be walking 119 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: around guaranteed the next six to twelve months, particularly next yeah, 120 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: the next six to nine months, before the mid terms, 121 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna start set talking about awards for him. You're 122 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna see Faucci walking around with more metals than the 123 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: General Lissimo on his chest because they have to pump 124 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: this guy up because he became their you know, he 125 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: became their front for all of these actions. Yeah, and 126 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: you're right, And we talked about this yesterday. It's starting 127 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: even earlier than I thought it would. But the clear 128 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: goal here, don't mistake what's going on. This is a 129 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: definite narrative of pivot in favor of arguing, we declare victory, 130 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: we won, and they're going to pretend that they actually 131 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: have managed to succeed against COVID. You're going to try 132 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: to see Joe Biden take a victory lap I mean 133 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: he tried to take a victory lap buck last year, 134 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: remember July fourth when he tried to declare independence from COVID, 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: And then you had the Delta variant, then you had 136 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: oh Macron. So who knows, there may be another variant 137 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: coming down the pike that could create a major issue 138 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: for everyone. But as we'll talk to doctor Marty McCarry about, 139 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: at this point, almost everyone has either had COVID is 140 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: vaccinated or in some way has some form of immunity 141 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: against it, and so that's I think probably the lasting 142 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: benefit of omicron is it effectively ended any argument that 143 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: we were going to do away with COVID. Now. I 144 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: didn't see this happening so quickly, where every democratic state collusion. 145 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: It feels like all of these Democratic governors who had 146 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: been walking down their states Connecticut, Illinois, New York, California, 147 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: you name it, all of a sudden they came out 148 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: this week and effectively started to end all of their mandates. 149 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: Even though, as you pointed out yesterday, buck were over 150 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: two times as many cases of COVID today as we 151 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: had last year at this time, and also they're more 152 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: deaths on a daily basis right now than last year 153 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: at this time. Is it an amazing how many times 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you've heard, even just over the last six months, we know, 155 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: we know they said how to stop this virus? No 156 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: they don't. Actually this is we really know this from 157 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the beginning. The history of stopping aerosolized viruses in human 158 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: beings is not one of state's success. That's not. The 159 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: virus does what it does, It spreads, people try to 160 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: deal with it, their immune systems hopefully can fight it. 161 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: They promised us if we listened that they would avoid 162 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: this whole winter that we went through. And I think 163 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: that's part of why Clay people are just saying, hold 164 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: on a second, look at what just happened. Look at 165 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: what we went through this year alone Underbiden. More deaths 166 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: under Biden than under Trump? How is that possible? Way 167 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: more and no end in sight. And remember how out 168 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: of touch Joe Biden has been regarding COVID buck When 169 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: he took office, he said, if everybody would just wear 170 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: a mask for a hundred days, COVID would go away. 171 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: And people just pretend that that never happened, right, They 172 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: never bring up these arguments. Remember he said in July, 173 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: as recently as July last year, Hey, if you get 174 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the shot, if you get the COVID vaccine, you won't 175 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: get it and you won't spread it. Even long after 176 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: it was clear that that was still occurring, he's continued 177 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to try to argue this is a pandemic of the 178 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: unvaccinated when the data doesn't support that in any way. 179 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: And I think all the moms have finally had it. 180 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: I think this argument that the kids are not being 181 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: impact acted, we finally have one, and you've got the 182 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: mom revolution, which I think is going to sweep through 183 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the country and destroy Democrats in the midterms. Yeah, I 184 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: mean the closest thing I think this should be said, 185 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: The closest thing that we have had to the freedom 186 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: convoy in America is the mom revolution at school board 187 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: meetings and at schools in general. And we mean dads too, obviously, 188 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: but the parential But I would say, but the parental 189 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: revolution moms are driving. I mean, I went as a 190 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: dad to speak, but the ones that buy and large 191 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: have really gone viral. I think moms connect with everybody 192 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: in a way that dads might not. With the righteous indignation. 193 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Does that make sense, Like when you watch a dad 194 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and he's angry, I don't think it connects in the 195 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: same way that an angry mom does, if that makes 196 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: any sense. I mean, yeah, I totally think that the 197 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: optics of this, also with the Biden regime. Just it's 198 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: one thing when they tell you and me, shut up, peasant, 199 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: wear your mask. It's another thing when a mom who 200 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: has a child who perhaps has some developmental delays or 201 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: is having trouble in school, woul is saying this is 202 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: hurting my kid. And surly bureaucrats who have been paid 203 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: to sit at home for months and months on end 204 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: during the pandemic because they're so scared. Tell the mom 205 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: to shut up. That's a different that's a different thing, right, 206 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: that hits differently. I think for a lot of people, 207 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: we actually have some uplifting, you know, because look, there 208 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: are good things that are happening here too. We don't 209 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: want to skip over that at all. We just want 210 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that we keep pushing and pushing hard 211 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: and that there's accountability. Right. 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Well, Las Vegas rescinded its mask mandate 260 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: means you can go out into the casinos, restaurants tells 261 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: they finally ended it. I think it had been an 262 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: effect since July of last year. If I'm not mistaken 263 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: because they flipped the mask mandate on right as I 264 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: arrived in Las Vegas last year, if I remember correctly. 265 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: But I want you to listen to this Las Vegas 266 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Elementary School as the teacher comes out and says you 267 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: kids no longer have to wear masks. Listen to the celebration. 268 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: You can see the video at Clay Travis on Twitter. 269 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: You can see it at Clay and Buck dot com. 270 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Listen to this anymore. It's better with the visual for everybody. Yeah, 271 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: it's still, but joyful children is I know there's a 272 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: lot of you out there smiling right now, but also 273 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: angry like me, Buck, Ben, like you. Because there is 274 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: so much talk about the right and wrong side of history. 275 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I sometimes think we spend almost all of our time 276 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: on social media on issues talking about right and wrong 277 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: side of history. Make no mistake, every single person out 278 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: there who argued, particularly that kids needed to be in 279 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: mask for the last two years, is on the wrong 280 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: side of history. They will look like imbeciles in the 281 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: decades ahead for the choices that they made and what 282 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: they did to kids. And when you hear that Jensaki 283 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: was saying yes two months ago, oh, I don't my 284 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: kid doesn't mind being in a mask, is fine. Kids 285 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: don't mind being masked. We're human beings who wants to 286 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: breathe through a soggy, damp cloth on their face all day? 287 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: This was the most obvious lie imaginable. But the Blue 288 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Checks and the Democrats and the Fauciites, they all play. 289 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: They acted like kids like wearing masks. I mean, yeah, 290 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: if you tell a kid wear your mask or you're 291 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: gonna die, they'll probably wear it pretty handily. But it 292 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: was child abuse. They were abusing children, amen. And just 293 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: because kids are willing to do it when they're told 294 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: by adults. That's if you've forgotten what kids have to do, right, 295 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: They have to do what adults tell them to do. 296 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I just loved hearing that reaction as Las Vegas eliminated 297 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: masks in schools shouldn't be a hard question to answer. 298 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: How many days a week do you wake up in 299 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: agonizing pain? Well, this is the solution. It's a relief 300 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: Factor twenty dollars to see if you can stop feeling 301 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: the way you do. Our friends at relief Factor have 302 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: developed a three week quick start pack. 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Welcome back into the Clay 312 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: and Buck Show. As promised, we've got doctor Marty McCarry 313 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: with us now. He's Johns Hopkins University Medical Center and 314 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: the author of the Price We Pay, doctor McCarry. Great 315 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: to have you back, sir, Great to be with you. 316 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: So you've got some updates for us, as I understand, 317 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: on the little something called natural immunity, which, despite what 318 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: the CDC has led a lot of people to believe, 319 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: is a real thing that really matters. Well, the test 320 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: of time is caught up with the deniers, and we 321 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: did this giant study out of Johns Hopkins. My research 322 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: team invited people in, we tested their blood and what 323 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: we found is that if you had COVID in the past. 324 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Ninety nine point three percent of those people had circulating antibodies, 325 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: and those antibodies were present almost two years after infection. 326 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: So the debate is over. Now it's time to just 327 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: recognize are we really following the science or are we 328 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: following politics? Because I hear about high level meetings in 329 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: the government among public health officials and the basically political 330 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: meetings should we agree to this or not? And it's like, 331 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: how about followed the data? So what's going to happen now, 332 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry. Are we just gonna go like all the 333 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: people who were saying vaccine mandates, mask mandates as they're 334 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: all just disappearing. Are people just going to pretend that 335 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: that never happened. I just don't know, like where we 336 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: go from here? Right, Like I'm in La Bucks in 337 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: New York City. There are places that are saying, hey, 338 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: we have to see your vax card. Is it just 339 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: going to disappear? And then people are gonna be like, yeah, 340 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: well that as if it never happened, like in your mind, 341 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: where does it go from here? Well? People are angry. 342 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: They're not willing to just say, you know what, you 343 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: really screwed up society for two years, We're just going 344 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: to forgive you and move on. People want honesty, they 345 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: want some accountability. This was the biggest public health intervention 346 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in human history. You had a Johns Hopton's study come 347 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: out two weeks ago evaluating the effect of that giant intervention, 348 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: and basically the Fox in Wall Street Journal were the 349 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: only places that covered its amazing people were seeing through it. 350 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Doctor McCarry, what are we going to be able to 351 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: get a sense? Do you think it is possible for 352 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: us to get a sense of what the actual exposure 353 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: to the American people of this virus was? I mean, 354 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: I remember in the early days there was zerology testing 355 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: being done to get a sense of just antibody levels 356 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: in the general population and in New York City alone 357 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: in June of twenty twenty, if I recall correctly, twenty 358 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: percent in June of twenty twenty of the city had 359 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: already had you had had COVID at that point in time. 360 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: Do we have any way and do you think we'll 361 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: be able to get a sense as to how many 362 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: people in this country have actually had COVID at this point, 363 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Because it strikes me as a very important part of 364 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the data to see whether any of this mitigation stuff, 365 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: any of the lockdown strategies, had really any effect at all. Yeah, well, 366 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: you're you're right. It was twenty percent just a couple 367 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: months into the pandemic of people in New York, and 368 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: then it was one in two Americans by the end 369 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: of the year, according to a Columbia University study out 370 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: of after year one. So and the people who are unvaccinated, 371 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: most of them had natural immunity. You know what people 372 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: don't realize is almost ninety percent of those truckers in 373 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: Canada are vaccinated. The ones that don't, I can almost 374 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: guarantee you they've got natural immunity. So that's the reality 375 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: people are. You know, they want to move on. They 376 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: know that the realities of the data. Well, what do 377 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: you have any sense of what do you think is 378 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: the percentage of the American people? Does anyone know or 379 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: can anyone do a study? Do you think eighty percent 380 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: of the countries seventy percent of the country has been infected? 381 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: If we have any any idea, we don't. I think 382 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: it's ninety to ninety five percent have either vaccinated or 383 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: natural immunity. Remember when omicron was ripping through the population, 384 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: we were documenting half a million to three quarters of 385 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: a million cases a day, and we're only capturing one 386 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: in three to one in five cases, So we were 387 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: adding almost one percent of our population, or half of 388 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: one percent per day in that group that has natural immunity. 389 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: There's very few people left. And when you talk about kids, 390 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: and you know this rush to get every six month 391 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: year old vaccinated wherever, they've all been exposed virtually, and 392 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: it changes the calculus. They won't break down these studies 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: that they put out by those who had the infection 394 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: of the past. And that's why if you remember Denmark 395 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: had this study, nobody could explain that the unvaccinated had 396 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: lower rates of transmission. Well, that's because they had more 397 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: natural immunity, Doctor McCarry, what's going to happen in your 398 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: mind with schools? What should happen? What will happen? Obviously, 399 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: we just played a clip of Las Vegas school teacher 400 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: announcing the kids don't have to wear masks anymore. There 401 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: has been discussions in some states have already said they're 402 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: going to mandate it, like California, that kids have to 403 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: all get the COVID vaccine. What do you think will happen, 404 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: what should happen as it pertains to kids and COVID 405 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: shots and masking going forward. Well, I think most of 406 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: the country is just saying we're done. Look, we make 407 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: tremendous sacrifices. We're not going to be playing these games 408 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: about if you get vaccinated then you can stay in 409 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: school like they did with masks. They see through the 410 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: phoniness of a lot of the stuff. They know that 411 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: population communities high, and they know that healthy kids are 412 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: virtually resilient to this severe illness. So I think people 413 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: are just going to reject it all stepped in the 414 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: pockets of the country where you've got people like Sonia Sotomayor, 415 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: who truly believed that one hundred thousand kids were in 416 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: the hospital, and those politicians are going to try to 417 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: cater to those people. Speaking of doctor Marty McCarry, author 418 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: of The Price We Pay and professor at John's Hoppys 419 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: University Medical Center, doctor McCarry, what is the what is 420 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: your assessment right now when when someone says to you, 421 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: mRNA technology in the fight against COVID, what do you 422 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: want to say to them? I mean, I just I 423 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: just kind of wonder here at is what is the 424 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: data really shown us in terms of is it protective 425 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: against infection from omicron at all? Is it only protective 426 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: against hospitalization and death? Do we have a census to 427 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: at what level? You know that That discussion has also 428 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: fallen away as a lot of the mask mandates and 429 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: some of the mania seems to be fading around it. Well, 430 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I hope one of the takeaways there is people, I 431 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: hope realize you cannot just believe what pharma is saying. 432 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: And they can do some amazing things. They're good scientists 433 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: there and they develop good products. But when the messaging 434 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: comes out, hey we have a new variant, just take 435 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: another dose of our vaccine that we get invented for 436 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: prior variants. And by the way, we're going to create 437 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: another vaccine specific to omicron, But just take another dose 438 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: of what we have now until we come up with 439 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: another one, and then take To help people see through this, 440 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the vaccine trial in kids six months through 441 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: five years failed. It was a randomized control trial. It failed. 442 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: There was no difference. And instead of saying, hey, let's 443 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: scrap this and move on and try something different, what 444 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: they did is they told the FBA, please approve this 445 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: and just trust us. We'll get a third dose by 446 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: the time this is out there and that will help you. 447 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: I think people are seeing through this right now. They 448 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: want to move on. And it's not just this, it's 449 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: all of it. It was the whole group. Think surface transmission, 450 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: the barbarous hospital visitation policies, school closing, the narrow dosing 451 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: interval was too short, cloth masks, ignoring natural immunity, boosting kids, 452 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: all of it. People are sick of all of it, 453 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Doctor McCarrell, What would you tell parents, because there still 454 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: our parents who are listening to us that are trying 455 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: to decide because there's a lot of pressure being put 456 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: on them, you know this, to go get their kids 457 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: vaccinated for COVID and this is may turn into the 458 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: next battle Royale before all is said and done. I've 459 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: been open. I think my kids have had COVID. I'm 460 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: not going to get that. I'm not anti vax, but 461 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm not getting my young kids the COVID shot. I 462 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: don't think they needed. I think they've likely had it, 463 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: given that both myself and my wife have had it. 464 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: What would you tell the average parent out there about 465 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: their kids, especially young kids, Well, I would tell them 466 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: to follow the science because in Fiser's own vaccine trial 467 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: and Kids through eleven, it said that no kid who 468 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: had COVID in the past got COVID, so regardless if 469 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: they got the vaccine or not, they were immune, so 470 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: they have natural community. Nobody should be getting a vaccine 471 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: a clear young unhealthy for kids who have a comorbidity. 472 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: I do believe in vaccinating those, those the high risk kids, 473 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: and those the kids that benefit from the vaccine, Doctor McCarry, 474 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, are we by the summer 475 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to think about a lot of this stuff 476 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: coming back, a lot of these debates coming back in 477 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: November December, or do you think enough of the medical 478 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: community and just the American people in general have seen 479 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: this for what it is. Not everybody, but enough that 480 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to have to have these battles again. 481 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: Because I worry, you know, I'm here in New York 482 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: City that come November, right after the elections, all of 483 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: a sudden are going to say time to put those 484 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: masks on everybody, just in indoor settings, just for a while, 485 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: maybe two masks. Maybe get a booster. We're gonna make 486 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: you get a booster, We're gonna fire you. I mean, 487 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: I can see it all happening again. Do you think 488 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: that's a concern we should have. Yes, And I'll tell 489 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: you I saw this the school debate coming last spring, 490 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: when the teachers unions were saying, we're just gonna get 491 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: to the end of this year and then we'll be 492 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: good for the fall, and we believe schools should be 493 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: open to fall. And I said, well, wait a minute, 494 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: they are going to come up with new arguments, and 495 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: you're going to see a bumping cases in the fall, guaranteed, 496 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: just like we are with influenza and para influenza and 497 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: rhino virus and every other virus that circulates here to year, 498 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: And some media outlet is going to report that we 499 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: just had a four hundred percent increase in COVID in 500 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: this coming November, and that's going to be a headline, 501 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: even though the cases went from two to eight per 502 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, and there's high population immunities. So yes, I 503 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: think we need to learn our lessons and prepare for 504 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: a rational argument. Doctor Marty McCarey, author of The Price 505 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: We Pay Johns Hopkins University Medical Center. Doctor McCarry always illuminating. Sir, 506 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: thanks for spending some time with us. You've been honestly amazing. 507 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Like I wish guys like instead of Fauci, which you 508 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: talked about Buck, like they're going to trot him out 509 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: as if he's a hero. I wish a lot of 510 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: the doctors like doctor McCarry who actually took risk and 511 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: spoke out on the data. 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We've been spanning the nation all 538 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: week long. I am in La buck Is in New York, 539 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: probably two of the epicenters alongside of Washington, d C. 540 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Unfortunately, we can run through a litany of 541 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: cities that have lost their minds over the past two years. 542 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: But there is some craziness. Just when you think that 543 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: COVID is wild, we come back to the top of 544 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: the next hour. There is a stirring in the Democratic 545 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: force buck Hillary is. I kind of feel like she's 546 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: going to be the nominee in twenty four. I kind 547 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: of feel like she's going to come back in by 548 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: and Hapless gonna be a one term guy, and he's 549 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: going to pass the baton twenty three. Like basically, let 550 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: there be a battle. But I feel like Hillary's gonna 551 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: get it. I mean, who else would be the nominee 552 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: if Biden isn't running. One thing I think we can 553 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: say with full confidence is that if Hillary Clinton sees 554 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: a pathway, she will take it. She is not She 555 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: has not decided it is time to go drink chardonnay 556 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: and go for walks in the woods and do yoga 557 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: and hang out with the grandkids, and like, you know, no, no, no, 558 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: she still thinks she should be president. There's no question 559 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: about that. And when you look at the Democrat bench 560 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: and the realities of what they're dealing with right now 561 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden, how can you say, Look, anything is 562 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: possible right now in politics, right and look at that 563 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: you're at Andrew Cuomo is thinking about going for the 564 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: attorney general role in New York state, just out of spite. 565 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: By the way, you want to go from governor to 566 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: attorney general just because you want to take the current 567 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: attorney general's job. So could Hillary step in? Of course 568 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: she could, right, of course she could, and then America 569 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: would be think about this, everybody, you might have a 570 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Trump Hillary rematch in twenty twenty four. I mean this 571 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: is almost like like the writers for WrestleMania are coming 572 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: up with this. I mean, you know, remember there was 573 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: like WrestleMania thirty five. Whoever, they are, all these big 574 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: things crazy. I would, I would, I will talk about 575 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: start the next hour. By the way, Also, whoever the 576 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Republican president is hopefully in twenty twenty four, All of 577 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: these doctors, Marty McCarry, like so many people out there 578 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: that were willing to speak out even when so many 579 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: doctors knew this was wrong, but they were afraid of 580 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: being targeted because they had quote unquote in unacceptable opinions 581 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: in the world of science, because the faucis of the 582 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: world bullied them and yelled at them and talk them down. 583 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: These guys who spoke out, like Marty McCarry, they deserve 584 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: major commendation. And I'm just using him as an example, 585 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, but your idea presidential free metal of freedom. 586 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Put him in charge of the CDC. Put doctor McCarry 587 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: in charge under republican president of the CDC, with the 588 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: mandate to just dismantle the bureaucratic tyranny and make sure 589 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: that I'm sure Clay, there were voices from within if 590 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: they didn't think that their careers would be threatened. Look, 591 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I worked at the CIA. I know how this stuff goes. 592 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: You go along with the powerful people in the building 593 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: or else, all of a sudden you're the squeaky wheel 594 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't get the promotion or doesn't get the big office. Right, 595 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: that's the reality. You've got to go into a place 596 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: like the CDC and set up structures so that there 597 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: could actually be free and open debate. We never saw 598 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: think about this. We never saw a high level policy 599 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: debate once with anyone from a CDC over masks, once 600 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: with anyone from a CDC. Oh all it was was, 601 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, the scribes at the New York Times NC 602 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: then saying, oh, yes, whatever fault she says, whatever fouct 603 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: she says, why it was it was sheer madness, never 604 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: subject to the intellectual rigor Now what is going to happen, Buck, 605 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt is all of these 606 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: people they're they're basically acknowledging they were wrong. Now they're 607 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: claiming the science was changing. What they will say going 608 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: forward is we could have never known that it was 609 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: okay for kids not to wear masks. We were trying 610 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: to be protect him. I'm just using kids wearing mask 611 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: as an example. We can't allow that argument because the 612 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: data has been quite clear on kids in masking for 613 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: years now. So when they say, you know, I'll give 614 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: some pass even though I don't think you deserve it 615 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot. But March in April of twenty twenty, in 616 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: the immediate sort of frenzy of what do you do 617 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: with COVID as New York City was dealing with their outbreak. 618 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: But by May and June, the data was quite clear. 619 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: Remember even the American Academy A Pediatrics. Buck, as soon 620 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: as June of twenty twenty, we're saying kids need to 621 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: all be back in school, and didn't. They basically reversed themselves, 622 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: but the science was clear. It was never doubt. All along, 623 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: Chet in Tampa, Florida, real quick, Chet, what do you got? 624 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I got a feed on my emails a couple of 625 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: days ago, and there was a gentleman Ohio said he 626 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: went to a school board meeting, told him he didn't 627 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: have any kids there, but he actually went against their 628 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: surety of surety bonds. He printed out a bunch of 629 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: leaflets for everybody in the audience that he was gonna 630 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: go to the age and he was actually, if any 631 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: kids ended up harmed, he was going to sue the 632 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: school board against their surety bonds. The board tried to 633 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: table that, other people got up and started talking about 634 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. They ended up actually taking a vote 635 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: that night and rescinded the school board or the school 636 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: mandate for masks for all the kids in their district. 637 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that might not have had an effect 638 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: on the rest of these school all of a sudden 639 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: saying it's okay, well the master off. First time I'm 640 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: hearing any of this lady know about this. No, I 641 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: don't know anything about it, and I'm not an expert 642 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: in what a legal analysis there would be either. It's 643 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of fascinating. If somebody's got some articles on that, 644 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to read it. But I do not 645 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: know anything about that. Coming back here just a few 646 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: on the Canadian truckers stick around Fleet Travis and Buck 647 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of truth.