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Speaker 1: I do remember when we were recording this one. I

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Speaker 1: what's up? My name is Vanessa Marshall Harrison Doula, Specter two.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Tsir cars the being Ren Specter five, and

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Speaker 2: I'm Taylor Gray.

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Speaker 3: Ezra Bridger, Spector six.

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Speaker 4: And I am your non spector moderator, john Ley Brody.

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Speaker 4: And today we are talking about season one episode eleven,

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Speaker 4: Idiots Array. In the words of Johnny Lawrence, let's begin.

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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, this is a very I would say,

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Speaker 4: a special episode. I remember seeing this in real time,

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Speaker 4: not one but two very special guest stars. One is

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Speaker 4: a huge character in the Star Wars canon. But we

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited to get into it. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: You're ready for this, We're ready.

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Speaker 4: Let's go all right? Here it comes Idiot's a Ray

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Speaker 4: original Airy Day January twelfth, twenty fifteen, same year that

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Speaker 4: but different month. All right, here comes the recap. It's

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Speaker 4: tough times for the Ghost cre right now. They got

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Speaker 4: falling off. Okay, not the last part. Well maybe that

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Speaker 4: Rounders directlessly betting Chopper and it gave a sabah against

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Speaker 2: Well, nicely done, nicely done, excellent. I really appreciated the

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Speaker 4: You, thank you. And the dumb and dumber I know

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Speaker 4: That was twenty nineteen Star Wars celebration, which is where

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Speaker 4: I have a Billy D Williams story from that. Let's

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Speaker 4: who owned Spunky Dunkers. But yeah, that was That was Billy.

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Speaker 2: That was a really good Billy. Also, Spunky Dunkers is

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Speaker 4: Want me bring Steve back for Potter Rebellion after dark?

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Speaker 4: We can talk.

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Speaker 2: About I have a habit of saying things that I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you were there the day I

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Speaker 2: If you will in orbit, Well you had that experience.

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Speaker 4: It was great. You know, I want to be like,

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Speaker 2: So I have a I mean, it's I just have

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Speaker 1: they're in Nashville. That's where we met them, and it

433
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Speaker 1: gave us the moonshine and all that stuff, the moon pies,

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Speaker 1: and but I love that we've come so far that

435
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Speaker 1: when we recorded this, I had no clue but and

436
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Speaker 1: since then we have become better friends with even more

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Speaker 1: Star Wars fans. And shout out to the Outer Rim

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Speaker 1: SUBAC League. Please join now if you'd like to play.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that's really sweet that you know

440
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Speaker 1: we've we've grown as the BAC players.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like we got some bonus content coming up.

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Speaker 3: I'll start playing students on draftings. I'll start up Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's go.

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Speaker 1: My my.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I now do this sort

446
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Speaker 3: of every episode, just as I learned Star Wars.

447
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Speaker 5: Just question that I'm I've genuinely been wondering do blasters

448
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 5: Are they stunning or are they killing?

449
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Speaker 1: Like?

450
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Speaker 3: What is when they're hitting people?

451
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Speaker 5: It feels like sometimes they choose that they kill and

452
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Speaker 5: sometimes it's like or is that person dead when they

453
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Speaker 5: get hit with the blasters?

454
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Speaker 4: Are the settings? I think you can? I know Star

455
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Speaker 4: Trek for sure they do set your phases from stunned

456
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Speaker 4: to kill. I would think that there's that option we.

457
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Speaker 2: JC but just I mean, like, obviously I don't know

458
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Speaker 2: the answer. But when you are training, like and I think,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know, you're shooting, like when they're training, when

460
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: you're you know, I think I'm getting ahead of myself.

461
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Speaker 2: Maybe in the next episode there's like a training sequence,

462
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Speaker 2: but we're like shooting at Ezra and he's not. At first,

463
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is a really dangerous way to train,

464
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Speaker 2: But then I was like, oh, but that's just getting

465
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Speaker 2: shocked or stunned, Whereas like when we're shooting at storm Troopers,

466
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: obviously we're shooting to kill.

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Speaker 4: Laughing because movie.

468
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Speaker 1: J we need you, He'll help us.

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing because in movies and shows whenever, like heroes

470
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Speaker 4: are being trained, like they're always tuning in a very

471
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Speaker 4: dangerous way. So I'll bring up Batman begins when rachelle

472
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: Ghul is training Bruce Wayne, and I'm like, wait are

473
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: they using real swords? Like why did you kill them? Batman?

474
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Speaker 4: So like so it's a funny movie trope and movie

475
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Speaker 4: TV trope and like wait, this is extremely dangerous totally,

476
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Speaker 4: but must.

477
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Speaker 2: Be a setting there must be. Well we'll get that true.

478
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: So often like we're what eleven episodes in, I'm like,

480
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Speaker 5: sometimes they're falling like they just got stunned.

481
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Speaker 2: Well that might be like a Disney XD thing where

482
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: that you can only have so many so much explicit

483
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Speaker 2: uh like death explosions in the shell.

484
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: When the ships blow up. I'm like copy that right.

485
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I wonder if there was like

486
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Speaker 2: a like a Disney element to that of like, you know,

487
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: we don't want people like bleeding out on our on

488
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Speaker 2: our show, like you know what I mean. So I

489
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Speaker 2: don't know, great.

490
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Speaker 1: Question, Jacy will let us know. Yeah, I do remember

491
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: when we were recording this one I couldn't believe I

492
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Speaker 1: punched Lando. I loved it and that I kept thinking, like,

493
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Speaker 1: how am I going to do this, you know if

494
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: we're recording like and he wasn't there, so, you know,

495
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: so I fleshed that out when I watched it sort

496
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Speaker 1: of in its full form eventually. But I do remember

497
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Speaker 1: being in the recording session and the Lando line where

498
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Speaker 1: he says, well, I'll just have to owe you one,

499
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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this one. When Freddy looked at

500
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Speaker 1: me and when we finished, he was like, cloud City,

501
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Speaker 1: cloud City because he helps the rebels cloud City, and

502
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: I thought yes, and the seeds planted in the yeah,

503
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, we both were like, oh no. But what

504
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: we didn't have was his last line, and I saw

505
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Speaker 1: it when I rewatched it again last night, where it

506
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: then he's like, well, of course I didn't pay them,

507
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, because I let them take my fuel blah

508
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: blah blah. And it's like, oh, maybe he didn't os

509
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: why not?

510
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Speaker 4: Actually, Agamba never shows his cause because yeah, but.

511
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that moment where Freddy and I looked

512
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: at each other and we.

513
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Speaker 2: Were just like, oh yeah, I will say, just like

514
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: a broad strokes kind of thing based on what you're saying.

515
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: I know, I know we've talked about this before on

516
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: this podcast, but it just just to reiterate, it was

517
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: so like invaluable to me. And I'm just gonna throw

518
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: you in there, tailor, because I know you and I

519
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: were in a similar boat as far as like breadth

520
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: of knowledge when it came to Star Wars and we

521
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: were like, you know, and arking on this journey just

522
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: to have forget you know, filony, but like to have

523
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: Freddy and Vanessa as like, you know, you've got like

524
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: these two encyclopedias on Star Wars and like just they're

525
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: not just like knowledge of Star Wars, but also insight

526
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: and like opinions that we could say. I could be like,

527
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: well what is I don't even know what this is,

528
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: and between the two of them, one of them would say, well,

529
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: you know in episodes such and such in season three

530
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 2: of Clone Wars, such, there's this this story arc and anyway,

531
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: it was just for me, it was like invaluable to

532
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: have the two of them to kind of like rely

533
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Speaker 2: on for their just like encyclopedic knowledge of stars.

534
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Speaker 3: I remember being in the wait you we all know

535
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: the studio there's like a waiting room that we would

536
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: wait in until our producer, Lindsay, who's great, and their

537
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: casting director would would come get us and bring us

538
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: to the back and we would kind of like catch

539
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: up for a few minutes before we went back, And

540
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Speaker 3: I remember the whole first season being like I don't

541
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: what am I?

542
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: What am I doing?

543
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: Like okay, and just trying to I felt like I

544
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: was cheating before a test, you know, like when you're

545
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: going into school testing, like I didn't study for this,

546
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: And I'll be like, Okay, who's this?

547
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: What is this?

548
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 5: And I would ask Vanessa and Freddie and then we'd

549
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 5: get back and Dave, as we've talked on the podcasts,

550
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: would then give us this sort of prologue of what

551
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 5: was going on, and I remember how often I would

552
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 5: look over at them and be like, that's exactly what

553
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 5: you said, Like you would literally corroborate the exact same

554
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: thing that they said. And then when Sam got in

555
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 5: the mix Forget bro Bro, he was saying so much

556
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 5: that that what Dave was saying.

557
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, actually, Dave, no, I think this then happened?

558
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam, Yeah, put Sam, Freddie, Vanessa and pulling Sam

559
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Speaker 2: room together and j C.

560
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Speaker 3: Now we have Jona, I got it. Yes, we could

561
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: take anyone down. Yeah, I'll catch that tribute.

562
00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: We got the we got So you said something. Think

563
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: about for sharing that, because this is kind of a

564
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: natural segue to Sabine because we learn a little bit

565
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: more about her art. It's sake, you know, she's like

566
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: she's the van Goa, the ghost Creup basically without the

567
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: ear I hope, without that, but with that and you know,

568
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: peeling back those layers, and it's not just her paining

569
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: to pain, like you realize this is some sort of

570
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: almost coping mechanism because we don't know. I don't and

571
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: at this point, I'm sure I don't think you would

572
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: know any more of her backstory than you did in

573
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: the first episode. But when you know how like what

574
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: the layers are to her story, what she's been through,

575
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: what she's going through, the art makes that much more

576
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: sense and this is the way she sees the world.

577
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: And I thought that was really cool. My question is

578
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: they mentioned January A. Byth. Did they give you any

579
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: sort of context of what January byth is? Like, what

580
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: does this artwork look like, because like it's a very

581
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: specific thing for the impressionistic connoisseur as Lando clothes himself

582
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: to point. I know, but I was like, oh that's

583
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: I like that detail. And I was just curious of

584
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Speaker 4: h kind of contact you had.

585
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Doll, Vanessa, do you remember? I can't. I wish I

586
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: had a better answer for you, but I don't remember

587
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: if I mean, I knowing Dave, like, I'm sure he

588
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: would have said, like, I'm sure he would have given

589
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: me information on that, but I don't. It's been so

590
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: long that I don't recall. J C might know.

591
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: That's always the best answer to go to. It's like,

592
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: well j C will know, Yeah, I don't.

593
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember that specific. I mean I feel like it,

594
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: you know again, like if we needed to know something,

595
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: there was never a time that felony wouldn't have like

596
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: given us the information that we needed. So yeah, I

597
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: wonder if at that time he, I'm most more than

598
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: likely would have given me some information on who that is. Sadly,

599
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: my brain does not retain information like the rest of

600
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: y'all too.

601
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Speaker 3: Actually, now it's coming to that, Januar, but was like

602
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: a renowned male.

603
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: There's well, there's our social clip everybody.

604
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: Sculptor from Garrel.

605
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: Actually, oh yeah, when he was young, when he was yeah,

606
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: when he was young and worked as a propagandast supporting

607
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: the Galactic Republic.

608
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: What where? No, No, he supported soldiers during Colone Wars

609
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: wait rhetoric.

610
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Speaker 1: Where did you find this?

611
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: And the Evils of Count Duke? You don't forget that one.

612
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Speaker 8: My god.

613
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: This is where we realized that Taylor's been hustling us

614
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: all along, like he's seen everything, like he is Wikipedia

615
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: dot Com.

616
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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, wow, okay, well I must have known that

617
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: at some point, and I'm so glad you remembered all

618
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: that information all this time, Taylor.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to leave that space open

620
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: for you, but I gotcha.

621
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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

622
00:30:51,640 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: So he's a savant, you know, just sponge more. I

623
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: really like when I like, I thought that there's like

624
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: especially a lot of like funny one liners and like

625
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: back and forth quips this episode. But when he's like

626
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: a connoistant and you're like, I know what that means?

627
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: What does that mean? It's I enjoyed this episode so much,

628
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: And you.

629
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Speaker 4: See how much Canaan and Ezra alike in that regard,

630
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: because yes, your care comes smooth talking Lando Calvarisian, you know,

631
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: Redent and all this stuff, and what he said, I'm

632
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: a galactic entrepreneur and I've in the case.

633
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: Like I know what it means, what that means.

634
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, it's the first thing you really see

635
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: Canaan kind of rattled a little bit, a little bit

636
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: of jealousy there, and which I like that because we

637
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: already have fallen in love with these characters at this point.

638
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: But when you add in these little human qualities, these

639
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: human emotions that are very real, it just humanizes them

640
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: even more. It's like, yeah, you're watching an animated series,

641
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: but like we've talked about this before, the acting is

642
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: very real, very top shelf. Uh. But also like when

643
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: you give the characters like a real humanistic trait, that's

644
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: what's going to be a great storytelling. I think stan

645
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: Lee would talk about it. He's like when I created

646
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: Spider Man or any of the superheroes that created, he said,

647
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: I had to give him real human problems. They can

648
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: have these powers, but give him human problems. And this

649
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: is that, like Stanley won on one if you will,

650
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: in terms of let's layer in all this stuff, because

651
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 4: up at this point, Canaan's kind of shown a little bit,

652
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: he's shown his concern for Ezra, but this is the

653
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: first time we really feel like he's like his imposter syndrome,

654
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: which is like, dude, you're a Jedi, Like what why

655
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: would this guy who doesn't even have his capes yet

656
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: like be threatening to you?

657
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, security exists everywhere.

658
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's very sweet too when he like you

659
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: see the panic when you know, Harah is like going

660
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: along with the plan and he's like who wha whoa

661
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: whoa whoa.

662
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

663
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: So they have this like.

664
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: Nonverbal exchange and she like basically gives him a look

665
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: like it's okay. You can see like the panic in

666
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: his face, and he's you know, it's a sweet moment,

667
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, he cares about her so much.

668
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: How about that puffer pig?

669
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: Though?

670
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: That was so cute.

671
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I love it, like hilarious.

672
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: I loved it. I really enjoyed this episode. I like

673
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: was laughing out loud.

674
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Little Ezra, little hope you're getting like suffocated at.

675
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: It's a funny device that.

676
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a I mean there it's like a puffer

677
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: fish basically, yeah, right that it just fills up an entire.

678
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: When when as it was like, yeah, your cargo is snoring.

679
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: That's the thing that was throughout Rebels that I always

680
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 5: found so funny is how many like creatures, I guess,

681
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: the way that they used the every different creature throughout

682
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: like we've already seen so many and knowing what's to come.

683
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the the thing in the Crate, it reminded me,

684
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: weirdly enough, of Seven, Like What's in the Box? Like

685
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: curiosity got the better. It's like, it's the obviously family

686
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: friendly version. Different, Yeah, sparing Gwyneth Paltrow of any squirting maliciousness. Yeah,

687
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: but that's what I think. I'm like, What's in the box,

688
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: but like the nicer version, because you know, Ezra and

689
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: zeb they're these like brothers now and they do get

690
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 4: into mischief and they egg each other on and even

691
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: those little I call them like junior high insults like

692
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: it's not my fault, Like, well, it's your face's fault,

693
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: like I wrote that down, and like I can just

694
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: see the like obviously the chemistry was there from day one,

695
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: you know, because that's why we're here, But you see

696
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: it just growing at this point and it just seems

697
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: like I don't know again, I wasn't in the booth

698
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: with you all, but just watching as as like a

699
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: spectator and like as a fan. It's like I can

700
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: feel like the funness being let out of the box

701
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: a little bit. Especially at this part of the season.

702
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: It's like we're really like we're already all in, but

703
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 4: like now we're really all in, and yeah, you know,

704
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: we're at the tail end of season one. Now we

705
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: got three more i think the wrap up season one

706
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: of Rebels, and we're leading up to some pretty big stuff.

707
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: And and again like this this thing with Harah rising

708
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: to the forefront of this episode, it's really set in

709
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: the stage for next episode and the ones beyond and

710
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: and all these really cool reveals. So yeah, it's cool.

711
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: It's it's been so long when I hear Harrah yell

712
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: at zeb and and you know, she just sort of

713
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: really brings the heat to a lot of people in

714
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: this episode. I'm like, I don't remember screaming like that.

715
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: It's so it's so so much time has passed. I'm like, wow,

716
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I really uh really got into that.

717
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: Well, I don't.

718
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't do much of that in my real life.

719
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, I'm glad I was able to

720
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: capture that scolding energy.

721
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was.

722
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: It was a lot of different colors, a lot of fun,

723
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: also very touching and and I think we definitely did

724
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: get to know a lot of the characters, even Ezra's

725
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: vulnerability when he's defensive about his appreciation for the art.

726
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, everyone just showed a little bit of

727
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: vulnerability in this. I thought it was very sweet.

728
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 3: John.

729
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: As you were talking, I was just thinking like, oh,

730
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: with time, you know, you gain perspective. And I was

731
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: just thinking like what if. I mean, I know we've

732
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: talked about this, but like what a fun time we had?

733
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Like what like as you were talking and I was

734
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: just thinking back, and like it did feel we were

735
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: having fun like we were It felt easy. I Mean

736
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 2: when I first started, I was terrified because I didn't

737
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: know what I was doing and I'd never done such

738
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: a thing before. And I luckily had these amazing prolific

739
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: voiceover actors to just try and like learn from.

740
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 7: Me.

741
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: But gosh, like it was just easy because we all

742
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: just really kind of fell into our sort of Yeah,

743
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: there was there was nothing. There was no like ramp

744
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: up period. I don't think as far as like our

745
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: interpersonal connections and relationships. It was just kind of immediate back,

746
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: take us back.

747
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: Take us back.

748
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: It's eighty eight miles per hour taking it back. You know,

749
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: thank you for sharing that, Tia, and you've all been

750
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: so open about I guess lack of a better trans

751
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: impossible syndrome, like I didn't know what I was doing

752
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: and two things. It reminds you one of uh, Steven

753
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: Spielberg told this story, but when he was on Jason,

754
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: Henry Hathaway told him like, look, there's gonna be a

755
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: time you're gonna get the set, you won't know what

756
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 4: you're doing, and you just have to guard that secret

757
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: and figure it out. I'm paraphrasing, that's not the exact quote.

758
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: And I think you all sharing that because you're all,

759
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: I con you know, very high level performers, and the

760
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: product you turned out clearly is very high level as well.

761
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: But I think that's all people see. They see the

762
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: finished product, you know, of anything, and I think you

763
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: sharing that, Hey, look we were kind of figuring it too,

764
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: And I think that's important for people to know because

765
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure we have aspiring actors and filmmakers and voice

766
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: artists people that want to get into the industry, but

767
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 4: they see the finished product like it seems so unattainable,

768
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: and you all being graciously open about it. It's just like, yeah,

769
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: like we're all figuring it out too. Steven Spielberg was

770
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: figuring it out, and that's Steven Spielberg George Lucas figuring

771
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: it out, and you three were figuring it out. But

772
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: we got what we got. And I think that's such

773
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: a key component to why you get what you get

774
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: because you have to remain open to like understand that,

775
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: yeah I don't know, but let me be open to

776
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: get received new information so we can get what we get.

777
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: So so I appreciate that as a fellow performer and

778
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: also as your friend.

779
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: Thanks.

780
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well awesome, it's it's it's it's it was fortunate

781
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: for me, and I'll just just lump you in here

782
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: with me, Taylor, that we were surrounded by the likes

783
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: of Vanessa and Steve and Freddie and Dee Bradley Baker

784
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: and like, like like to have people like that to

785
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: be able to just like in your most frenetic moment

786
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: of like do they know that I don't know what

787
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm doing? You just look at these people and go okay, okay,

788
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: all right, I can do this, like you know, just

789
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: having like great teachers and friends to be to try

790
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: and like learn from and you know that's that was

791
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: really helpful for me.

792
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: So you two were Luca and they were Lebron. So

793
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: basically what we're saying to throw I mean.

794
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 3: I mean that analogy. It was more of adults and connects. Probably.

795
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll take Luca.

796
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: You're a bit of a Dulton, you know, deep cut,

797
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 4: he's he doesn't know what he's on real. Oh shout

798
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: out the Dalton connect. All right.

799
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: I've always thought of myself as a little more of

800
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: an Alan Iverson. But that's just you know what she

801
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: was going to say.

802
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: Yes, I was going to say that.

803
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: I was going to say, Alan Iverson, that's crazy, it's

804
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: I love that. Well, wait out of curiosity when you

805
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: say I could compare you to a handful of athletes,

806
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: who are those athletes? I want to hear it.

807
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 5: I could think of other NBA players for either Sabine

808
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: or to you, but Alan Iverson for sure is.

809
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Not in that.

810
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 2: I feel like the one thing you would choose are.

811
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: Like bad no, no, no, no.

812
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: I would have to think for a second, I guess

813
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm more curious. What do you know?

814
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: It's just because I love Alan Iverson. I just like, like,

815
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: I'll worship allan Iverson. I don't actually think of myself

816
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: having anything to do with allan Iverson. It's wishful thinking.

817
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: But that's weird.

818
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: I literally was about to say, and then you said it,

819
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: So maybe there's I think it's kismet and therefore true.

820
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: But also okay, when we look at what.

821
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: The shortest one, so I'm always the shortest.

822
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: One, that's not one.

823
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: Well, he was also such a he was also such

824
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: like a disruptor. You know, he was doing the corn rows.

825
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 4: He was his wardrobe was what he was. He was

826
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: unapologetically himself, which is also Sabin. She's like, I could

827
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 4: wear the traditional Mandalorian armor or I'm going to do

828
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: it my way, which is what you do. And you

829
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: expressed with your art, except your art is through painting

830
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, where Ellen Everson's art is basketball.

831
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: So I can see that connection for sure.

832
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: I still stand by. I still stand by. It's a

833
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: good one. It's a good one. But he definitely disrupted.

834
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: He changed fashion, so I could see this sort of

835
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 5: artistry a little bit, but like he I'm a huge,

836
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: huge on arms, but neither you nor Sabine would step

837
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: over Tyron Lou you know what I mean? And that

838
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: that is Ai AI is crossing up or even someone

839
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 5: a little further down that line.

840
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: All right, okay, I'm MONU.

841
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna make you a hybrid to that. You're the

842
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: Fundamental Answer, which what we'll call it what Tim Duncan

843
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: and Allen Iverson. I think I like that the Fundamental

844
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: Answer a new nickname, and also shout out to Allen Iverson. Look,

845
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: if you want to join us on our podcast, Oh

846
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: my god, always open. He's been out there so you

847
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: never know.

848
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: What if?

849
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: What if Ai is like a huge Star Wars fan?

850
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: You never and what if a I said, you know what,

851
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: I've always just had this sort of connection to being red,

852
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: I would eat all of my word.

853
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: I was gonna say if that happened, Sailor, someone.

854
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: Would have to resuscitate me. I'm just saying that would

855
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: also be nuts and I love it.

856
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: But he would come down a.

857
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 2: Click, that's messed up, that's messed up.

858
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: Kidding, that would be awesome.

859
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Vanessa and John that you were able

860
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: to see it and that you didn't.

861
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: Laugh in my face. No, I love it.

862
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 4: That'd be a fun maybe something for us to think

863
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: about me for next week's episode of Basketball equivalent for

864
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: your characters like I won't.

865
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: Like.

866
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: I think I think that could be fun for our

867
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: listeners as well. So maybe you're right, your.

868
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: Man, the gears are already turning. All right, all right,

869
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: h I have homework to do.

870
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: I think that's we all have homework because I'm going

871
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: to think about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna go all

872
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: the way back to like Bob Coosey, like I'm gonna

873
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: go Wow Basketball, Harlem Globetrotters. Are you saying that hair

874
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: is Marcus Haynes because I can get on board with that.

875
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: Maybe oh man, okay, we.

876
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 4: Should get a Kevin Kiner version of the Sweet George.

877
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we have homework.

878
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: We have homework, thank you.

879
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: And so to our listeners, so let us know, yes please.

880
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: So I think everybody on that note is going from

881
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: one answer, Allen Iverson to other answers. Let's go in

882
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: on our fact check with our guy jac What have

883
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: we got? My man?

884
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 8: So I talked to Alan Iverson while recording, and he said,

885
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 8: Shopper is definitely the character from the obviously I'm making it.

886
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: Also are three I think Isiah Thomas? You know That's

887
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: what I would say, like, Yeah.

888
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: He's definitely a Detroit Piston. Yes, take your pick.

889
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 4: Joe Dumars, We'll give him that.

890
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: Can I be Phil Jackson since I sit in the background.

891
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that.

892
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: You are very zen to JC. So it's all very

893
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: on brand the moment for you.

894
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 8: Yes, all right, off basketball Back to Star Wars. I

895
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 8: have a a controvert question at the end of their

896
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: fact check for Vanessa. But until we get there, John,

897
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 8: you mentioned Lando as Harvey Dent. Harvey Dent's a character

898
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 8: from the Batman Mythology and Billy d Williams played Harvey

899
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 8: Dent in Tim Burton's nineteen eighty nine Batman.

900
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 6: For all of you who are like, wait, what is

901
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 6: he talking about Harvey Dent?

902
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: What is that?

903
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 8: Let's see, we talked about James Hong quite a bit,

904
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 8: and you guys were trying to figure out was he

905
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 8: in studio?

906
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: Was he not?

907
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 8: Was he in New York with Taylor? James did three episodes.

908
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 8: So the answer to all of your questions is Yes,

909
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 8: he was probably in la he was probably on Zoom,

910
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 8: and he was probably in New York with Taylor. We

911
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 8: will get to him again in the episode Brothers of

912
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 8: the Broken Horn and the Win Kathu Job, where he

913
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 8: also plays the same character if You Love James Hong. Also,

914
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 8: he is in Star Wars Visions season one, I believe

915
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 8: as the elder doing the English voice.

916
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 6: In that episode.

917
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I looked.

918
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 8: I'm unable to definitively say whether Harra is the only

919
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 8: character who uses Zeb's full name. There is some unsubstantiated

920
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 8: evidence that Canaan mentions his full name. But this is

921
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 8: an opportunity for the fans of the podcast to respectfully

922
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 8: fill in in the comments, because I believe at this

923
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 8: point the Star Wars galaxy has gotten so large that

924
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 8: no one person or even team of people can know

925
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 8: everything about Star Wars. So let us know if any

926
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 8: of you guys know exactly if Zeb's full name is

927
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 8: mentioned by anybody else. But I do believe Harr is

928
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 8: really the only person who says it. Perhaps Canaan once

929
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 8: or twice we talked about pronunciation of names. Lando changes

930
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 8: the way he pronounces the name of let me get

931
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 8: it as Morgan. I want to also point out that

932
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 8: Lando calls Han Solo Han and just to go down

933
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 8: the rabbit hole. A little bit further, Tia, you mentioned

934
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 8: Dave Filonio is like people pronounce things different general. Jan Dedonna,

935
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 8: when doing the Desk Star briefing, mentions the plans provided

936
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 8: by Princess Leah very clear. So even within our main

937
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 8: characters of the the movies, the core set of main characters,

938
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Speaker 8: Hahn has pronounced several different ways and Princess Leah is.

939
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 6: Pronounced several different ways.

940
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 8: Interesting, Taylor, you guys talked about blasters having different settings.

941
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 6: I think pretty definitively they do.

942
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 8: As evidence in Star Wars Episode four, at the very beginning,

943
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 8: the Stormtrooper looks at Princess Land says there's one set

944
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 8: for stunt.

945
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: Cool.

946
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 8: I think that probably clears that up for all the

947
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 8: people at home who love the minutia of Star Wars

948
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 8: the way that I did, I did the research.

949
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 6: You don't have to go in.

950
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 8: Puffer pigs are not related to Ugnot's ug Knots being

951
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 8: the little pig likecharacters on Cloud City that takes C

952
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 8: three Po's head and throw it around. We briefly talked

953
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 8: about Sabak. I'm going to go on a deep dive.

954
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 8: I'm going to talk really fast because I have a

955
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 8: lot of information on Sebek and I feel very strongly

956
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 8: about it because when I was in college a million

957
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 8: years ago, I played sebek online back in the late nineties.

958
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: Why are you saying tobac You're like a guy from

959
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: England talking about pasta and.

960
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: Attack from Chicago.

961
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 6: That's Chicago accent coming out.

962
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: Wait, that'sa or bak.

963
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 8: But but yeah, John and I and Sam Whitt, we're

964
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 8: all grew up together. We're all a couple of years

965
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 8: of play playing well in Chicago. Everything is a is

966
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 8: an as a short.

967
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: Ay, my Chicago accent's gone. But if you would have

968
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 4: asked me this probably ten fifteen years ago, I would

969
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: have said tobec because it's like and I would have

970
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: said a nam John and not John John.

971
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: I'm home.

972
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 8: I've gotten rid of most of mine. But there are

973
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 8: a few words that it comes out. And also I

974
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 8: was living in Chicago when I was playing all the time,

975
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 8: so that's probably where it goes back to.

976
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 6: I don't even notice it anyway, A quick history.

977
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 8: Many many believed because I'm going to say it wrong

978
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 8: this entire time, and I am sorry. I'm going to

979
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 8: pronounce it. Yeah, I'm going to pronounce it the way

980
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 8: Lando pronounces hand. Many believe it's a reference to an

981
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 8: early draft of Empire Strikes Back, where Han Solo beat

982
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 8: Lando to win the falcon in a game of Sabaka

983
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 8: was what it was called. The original rules of the

984
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 8: game were created by a guy named Michael Stern and

985
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 8: Douglas Kaufman and Greg Cordon for the West End game

986
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 8: Star Wars RPG companion called Crisis on Cloud City, and

987
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 8: the book came with a deck of punch out Sabac

988
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 8: cards so you could play within your role Star Wars

989
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 8: role playing game. That book was released in nineteen eighty

990
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 8: nine and is discontinued. In the original Sabak game, there

991
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 8: were seventy six cards with four suits, the suits being coins, flash, sabers,

992
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 8: and staves number one to eleven. There were also face

993
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 8: cards of the Commander, the Mistress, the Master, and the

994
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 8: Ace which are valued twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen respectively.

995
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 8: Then there are special cards the Queen of Aaron Darkness,

996
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 8: which has a value of negative two, Endurance which has

997
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 8: negative eight balance, which has negative thirteen, Demise which had

998
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 8: negative thirteen, Moderation negative fourteen, the Evil one negative fifteen,

999
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 8: the Star negative seventeen, and to coincide with the title

1000
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 8: of this episode, Idiot's Array zero, which was the idiot

1001
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 8: many believes to Baka is based off of a tarot card.

1002
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: Deck and it sounds like tarot cards.

1003
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1004
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 8: The face values correspond to the writer weight tarot card deck.

1005
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 8: The first time the card types were named was in

1006
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 8: el Ni L. Neil Smith's Lando novels from eight nineteen

1007
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 8: eighty three, which was the mind sharp of Sharu, and

1008
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 8: they are used to tell someone's fortune in that book.

1009
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 8: Lando is name dropped Sharu in the solo movie, not

1010
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 8: Billy D Williams, but Donald Glover's Lando. The goal in

1011
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 8: the game of Sebak for all of you who want

1012
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 8: to play at home, are sabakh.

1013
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: Now I'm going to get tripped.

1014
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: Up on that.

1015
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 8: The goal of the game is to God yeah, close

1016
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 8: to twenty three or negative twenty three as possible. Also

1017
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 8: for the people at home who are doing exactly what

1018
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 8: Vanessa's doing right now. The rules that I quoted were

1019
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 8: from the West End Games Sebak when Disney bought it,

1020
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 8: and it became part of lead theme parks and you

1021
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 8: could buy decks and everything.

1022
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: All the rules changed, so I'm giving you the old

1023
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 6: school rules.

1024
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 8: The goal is to get as close to twenty three

1025
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 8: or negative twenty three as possible. The positive score is

1026
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 8: better than the negative, and at some point in the

1027
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 8: rules of Sebak, the score of forty six was put

1028
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 8: in there also, but it was then taken out, so

1029
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 8: if you're playing at home, you're not trying to get

1030
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 8: forty six anymore. You pull cards into your hand, they

1031
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 8: randomly shift in your hand. They're like electronic cards. You

1032
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 8: can put the cards into an interdictor field, which will

1033
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 8: keep them from shifting. But when you do that, the

1034
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 8: cards go face up, so people know what's in your hand,

1035
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 8: so then they can play.

1036
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 6: Like in a poker game.

1037
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 8: It's like showing some of your cards in order so

1038
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 8: that they don't shift in your hand. There's four phases

1039
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 8: in a game of Sebak, just like poker, bet, call, shift,

1040
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 8: and draw, and the best hand that you can get,

1041
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 8: which is why this episode is called Idiot's Array is

1042
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 8: the idiot's array, which is if you have negative twenty three,

1043
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 8: I have positive twenty three. But Vanessa has the cards

1044
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 8: in her hand, the zero card which is the idiot card,

1045
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 8: the card two, and the card three.

1046
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 6: It is a literal twenty three.

1047
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 8: Called the idiot's array, which is the top deck that

1048
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 8: or the top hand that you can get in some

1049
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 8: back that trump's all others. I think that's everything I have.

1050
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: On so oh oh god, I've got the rules here,

1051
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: and I'm I can't even I think you've got the

1052
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: rules already.

1053
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 8: The rules that I gave are the old West End

1054
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 8: Games rules. For the current rules, you can, good luck

1055
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 8: look up. You can look up the Disney rules. That

1056
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 8: was for old school people like me.

1057
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: Wow.

1058
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 8: I actually had pulled some info on Jane or of Bith,

1059
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 8: but it was not as good as Taylor's juicy in

1060
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 8: Universe stuff. Janer of Bit was first mentioned in the

1061
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 8: holow net News special report in twenty fourteen, which was

1062
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 8: a website that put out Star Wars in Universe news.

1063
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 8: So this episode tied into a fake news story that

1064
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 8: was published on star wars dot com. And then he

1065
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 8: was mentioned again in Pablo Hidalgo's book about Galactic Propaganda,

1066
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 8: which is obviously Taylor's memorized that book, which.

1067
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: Is where read when I was back in college.

1068
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: Actually, yes, when you were at university.

1069
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm glad that we could cross reference.

1070
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 6: As Morgan was on a ship called the Merchant One.

1071
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 8: It is a light cruiser, the type of which first

1072
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 8: appeared in Spark of the Spark of Rebellion. It is

1073
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 8: the same ship class as Visago's ship called the Broken Horn,

1074
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 8: and this ship class also appeared in the Solo Live

1075
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 8: action movie. At some point, you guys talked about some

1076
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 8: of your favorite lines. This is you know, that was

1077
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 8: a useful tray. At some point, somebody mentions boz Pity

1078
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 8: in the episode if You're Got Eagle Ears Like Me.

1079
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 8: Boz Pity is also mentioned in episod Sewed three by

1080
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 8: Obi Wan Kenobi with reference to Master Quinlan Voss, who

1081
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 8: shows up in other animated forms but we never see

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Speaker 8: him on screen. Bozz Pitty was originally mentioned in the

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Speaker 8: Star Wars Obsession comic about Assage Ventris, who shows up

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Speaker 8: again throughout multiple Star Wars animated things. That comic was

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Speaker 8: written by Hayden Blackman, who was in charge of Star

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Speaker 8: Wars The Force and Leash video game by Lucas Arts.

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Speaker 8: And we've mentioned Sam whitwre several times. Sam Whitwaer was

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Speaker 8: the title character Galen Merrick or Darth Vader's apprentice in

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Speaker 8: that video game. So it all comes together to the

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Speaker 8: will of the force. Here's my controversial question. Lando at

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Speaker 8: the end of this episode says, well, we'll see those

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Speaker 8: guys again. He never sees the Ghost Crew again. We

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Speaker 8: never have that on screen reunification with the Ghost Crew. However,

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Speaker 8: Ko has chosen to be the general that leads the

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Speaker 8: attack on the Second Death Star, right, he's goal leader.

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Speaker 8: Now we know for a fact that Hara is part

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Speaker 8: of the rebellion. During that time. Haara fought on the

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Speaker 8: Battle of Scaiff. You hear General Sindula said over the

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Speaker 8: PA system when they're prepping.

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Speaker 6: For that battle.

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Speaker 8: We know that she fought in all of these If

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Speaker 8: as Harra Sindula Vanessa as the person who knows that

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Speaker 8: character better than anybody, how does Harah feel about this

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Speaker 8: two timing guy who sold her out as Morgan getting

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Speaker 8: the opportunity to lead the attack on the Second Death

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Speaker 8: Star when Hara was sitting right there.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, much the same way Canaan is specter one. If

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Speaker 1: I can quote Laotsu he who knows doesn't talk, and

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Speaker 1: he who talks doesn't know. Haarah is happy to have

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Speaker 1: a clown do whatever, as long as a the job

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Speaker 1: gets done. I don't mean to refer to my Lord

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Speaker 1: and Savior as a clown, because I love me some Lando.

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Speaker 1: But she has the humility to know when to strike

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Speaker 1: and when to remain silent, and when to look like

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Speaker 1: number two in order to get the job done. So

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Speaker 1: as long as the job's done. As long as the

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Speaker 1: job's done, I don't think she cares Amen's sister.

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Speaker 8: That is a so much better answer than I could

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Speaker 8: have ever imagined, and that's why they paired the Big Books.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, that's kind of what Freddie and

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Speaker 1: I were thinking. I mean, yes, Cloud City, initially he

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Speaker 1: didn't have to help the rebels at that juncture, but

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Speaker 1: we thought, oh, maybe he owed them one. But also

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Speaker 1: when I heard at the end of this episode, oh,

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Speaker 1: I give him my fuel and blah blah blah, of

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Speaker 1: course I didn't pay them. They all see him again,

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Speaker 1: and I don't. We didn't see them again in the cartoons,

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Speaker 1: so I thought we we Actually he didn't really owe

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Speaker 1: us anything, but Freddy and I wanted to tell ourselves

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Speaker 1: that everything that followed from this episode in the films

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Speaker 1: later on, we're hinged upon this scenario of this trade

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Speaker 1: gone kind of sideways and whatever else.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know, no, I mean at the end

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Speaker 7: of the day, but I'd liked I'd like to believe

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Speaker 7: I like your answer. I'm inserting that cannon you know, cloud,

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Speaker 7: but I say that's canon.

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Speaker 6: Whoever fought today's Wookipedia put it in there.

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Speaker 4: Well, Taylor, since we come to find out you're the

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Speaker 4: creative Wikipedia give me that I.

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Speaker 3: Currently have this thing on my phone called clear space.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't let me go on social media right away.

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Speaker 4: Okay, unofficial ad read is that we got? Is that

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Speaker 4: what we got today?

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Speaker 2: Jac, I appreciate time.

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Speaker 4: Also, jac On behalf of us and now on behalf

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Speaker 4: of our listeners. We do pre record these, so this

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Speaker 4: isn't going to come out for a couple of months.

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Speaker 4: But jac at this moment that we are recording this episode,

1149
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: just had a new baby. We want congratulate you. We

1150
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Speaker 4: send a lot of love your way to Jen and

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Speaker 4: Jocelyn and your newborn daughter. You're you're the ultimate girl

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Speaker 4: dad right now, but we want to want to share

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Speaker 4: the love with you and also all of our listeners

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Speaker 4: who we also think for sticking with us. So we

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Speaker 4: wanted to express that to you, Jac because we are,

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Speaker 4: you know, like a we are a family here, so

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Speaker 4: we want to make sure those familial vibes shine through.

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Speaker 4: All right, and I guess I made it officially awkward,

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to seg thank you everybody once again

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Speaker 4: for listening. We will be back next week with the

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Speaker 4: season one episode twelve, Vision of Hope. It's that's a

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Speaker 4: great episode and we're getting to the tail end of

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Speaker 4: season one, so remember to rate subscribe to all your friends.

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Speaker 4: You can write to us at Potter Rebellion Podcast at

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Speaker 4: gmail dot com. Let us know your basketball player equivalents

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Speaker 4: with the Star Wars Rebels characters. I mean, I'm my

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Speaker 4: wheels ready turning. I can see wheels turning and everybody

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Speaker 4: else too, and I can't wait to hear some of

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Speaker 4: your answers. But until then, I think there's only one

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