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Speaker 1: the sports, stay for the stories. All right, o job,

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal. The Browns that finally named your

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Speaker 1: door their starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: No more week to week bull Jye. Here'sski had to

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Speaker 1: say about it today.

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Speaker 2: I think all along Mary Kay, as you know, with

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Speaker 2: our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure

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Speaker 2: that you're making the right decisions for our guys.

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 2: He's he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each

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Speaker 2: one of these games, and how he's approached this game.

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Speaker 2: He's been working very hard, so I feel good about

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Speaker 2: where his development is heading. He knows there's there are

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Speaker 2: always going to be plays that he can be better

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Speaker 2: and those type of things, but he's very intentional about

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Speaker 2: getting better each and every game he's out there.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, all right, was it a mistake not to start

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Speaker 4: Shooter earlier?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into those type of things, Uh, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's better when you can actually when

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Speaker 1: he can actually get on the field and show you

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Speaker 1: what he can do something on the side, flipping the

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Speaker 4: Look, Oh, Joe, yeah wait, I want to hear what

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Speaker 4: you got to say on this. I mean, I was

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Speaker 4: just gonna say, it's a good thing. There's no there's

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Speaker 4: no more confusion, and you're not looking over your shoulder.

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Speaker 4: You can go out there. You can lock in and

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Speaker 4: do what you need to do. Preparation. You say it

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Speaker 4: all the time. I've said it all the time, and

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Speaker 4: that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life

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Speaker 4: in general. When preparation meets opportunity, and when opportunity meets preparation,

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Speaker 4: this is what you get. You get games like this.

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Speaker 4: So the more the more he gets to to jail

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Speaker 4: and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and

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Speaker 4: his receivers and in his office alignement, the better he's

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Speaker 4: going to look on the field. And just to think

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Speaker 4: about it, if I think about what he would look

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Speaker 4: like if you look like this in his third game,

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Speaker 4: what do you think it would look like if you've

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Speaker 4: been playing all season long. There's nothing we can do

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Speaker 4: about that. All we can do is think about is

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Speaker 4: start from will be all right now the game you

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Speaker 4: had last week? What you want to do is you

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Speaker 4: want to build off of that, build off of that

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Speaker 4: and continue to go forward, finish the season off strong.

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Speaker 4: So they have no choice. So they have no choice

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Speaker 4: even if you might be auditioning for another team. Listen,

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Speaker 4: we can take him. But if he can do what

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Speaker 4: he's doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, a man,

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Speaker 4: if you were able to bring him in here where

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Speaker 4: So I think he's auditioning still. If he's not going

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Speaker 4: to be in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Can Stefans can not say shah is sah words? Is

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Speaker 1: that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't you just

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Speaker 1: say the man? Why can't he say the man's name?

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Speaker 1: Why did say when we deal it with young players?

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Speaker 1: You know what I think? I think your doors regress

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Speaker 1: very very well. I like I like what I've seen,

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Speaker 1: even though when he wasn't playing you can tell a

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Speaker 1: guy that's being very attentive. Uh, the guy that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's a very attention to detail. You see the way

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Speaker 1: he takes copious notes when he's in meetings.

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Speaker 3: You see the way he goes.

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Speaker 1: About his business at practice, although he wasn't getting reps

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Speaker 1: it is okay, tomit we made a mistake. It's okay

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Speaker 1: to say, you know what, yeah, maybe if things look different.

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Speaker 1: We all have the luxury of hindsight. It's a magnificent science.

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Speaker 1: We have the luxury of knowing today what we didn't

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Speaker 1: and all your questions are very very valid.

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Speaker 3: But if I were to.

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Speaker 1: Answer you her question, if I would ask you the

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Speaker 3: I look bad. This organization looked bad. Right.

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Speaker 4: You see what you just did. Did you see how

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Speaker 4: you answered that question so eloquently. Not only do you

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Speaker 4: not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a word

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Speaker 4: that's why I raised them a That's why I raised

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Speaker 4: my finger. I wanted to go back to that because

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Speaker 4: what kind of notes did he take?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Well, and you've been here for sorrus.

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Speaker 1: Is.

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Speaker 3: People have a hard time, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's hard because we don't like to be wrong, and

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Speaker 1: if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit

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Speaker 1: that we're wrong. But I think I think it shows growth.

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Speaker 1: I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and

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Speaker 1: was wrong, that I wish we could have done something differently,

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Speaker 1: whatever the whatever the reasons were, I was wrong, And

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Speaker 1: you have to be man or woman enough to say

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Speaker 1: that I was wrong in order for you to sincerely

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Speaker 1: and in order for you to have growth. Now, if

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to answer, I think we know the answer, chat.

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Speaker 1: I think we know the answer. Why he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to answer. That was it the mistake not to start him?

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Speaker 1: Because I would like to think their record would be

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Speaker 1: better than what it was now it could be checked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now we're we're sitting here saying they could

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Speaker 1: have won probably two more games, given that should do it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have

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Speaker 1: the exact the identical record. We'll never know, but it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get somebody admit when they're wrong and we

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Speaker 1: see in real time what's actually happening, and we seeing

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot of guys think about it, and

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Speaker 1: he's got probably the i think the fifth, the fourth

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Speaker 1: or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So uh, it's it's I'm glad he's getting an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to start the teams that he's up. The Bears are

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Speaker 1: the Bills nine to four, playoff team Steelers at home, uh,

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Speaker 1: the division leader, and then they finished on the road

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Speaker 1: at your for at your Bengals, which could have some

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Speaker 1: playoff implications for the Bengals, not for obviously Cleveland's not

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Speaker 3: O Jue?

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Speaker 1: Did they start like this because they trying to get draft,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to get positioned for the draft?

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Speaker 3: What what? What were what were they what were they hoping?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, Joe Flacco is what Joe Flacco will

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Speaker 1: is you know now, I mean, the guy's forty plus

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know what he is. He's streaky, he'll win

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Speaker 3: your game or two.

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Speaker 1: And but he's always been and always has been, always

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Speaker 1: will be a turnover machine.

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Speaker 3: That's what he is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no idea. Your guess is as good

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Speaker 4: as mine. We've been trying to figure out what the

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Speaker 4: Browns been doing with their organization for a very long time,

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Speaker 4: not just this year, but the past thirty some years,

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Speaker 4: especially at the quarterbackquisition. They haven't got it right in

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Speaker 4: a very long time, and still to this day. Still

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Speaker 4: the one that looks like it might be promising, they

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Speaker 4: still have an issue with that. So it looks like

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Speaker 4: what they're trying to do based on some of the

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Speaker 4: things that that we've seen, some of the things that

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Speaker 4: we've heard come out of that locker room of that

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Speaker 4: organization in general, they still don't think the person that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I really hate to feel this way,

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Speaker 1: but a part of me like, yeah, we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: him start the rest of the season. Oh Bears, Bills

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Speaker 1: Steelers Bengals, you do are like, No, I'm good. I

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Speaker 1: already showed y'all what I can do putting him in there.

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Speaker 4: I want him to play against the Bears. I want

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Speaker 4: him to play against the Beers. I want him to

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Speaker 4: play against the Steelers because I wanted to. I want

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Speaker 4: him to show that I'm a competent quarterback. Yes, to

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Speaker 4: be at the highest level as a rookie if given

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Speaker 4: the right amount of time to prepare.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's what I want.

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Speaker 4: I want him. I wanted to have Oh no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, you oh Joe, but this is not a mistake.

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Speaker 1: They picked these games and they why couldn't you name it?

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Speaker 1: Ask the start of three games ago? Why was it week?

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Speaker 3: The week?

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Speaker 1: Because every you know what, every time he don't want

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Speaker 1: want to get into that, right, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get into that because they ask you, they ask him before,

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Speaker 1: which is you do a go to start? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get into that. Let's look at the

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Speaker 1: film and all that. Brother, you know.

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Speaker 4: Wait, no, no, no, no, that's not true. That's not true.

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Speaker 4: Because after the first game and they asked him, is

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Speaker 4: he going to start? The next game. He wanted to

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Speaker 4: see if he could do it again. What is he

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Speaker 4: gonna look like again? And if you look bad, what's

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Speaker 4: the first thing you think se Fancy was gonna do.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's that's

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Speaker 4: why he has a all right, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: answer that right now. I don't know, but Shador gave

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Speaker 4: you no choice. May could you imagine after he played,

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Speaker 4: after he played this game, after he played this last

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Speaker 4: game in the game before that, if he was the

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Speaker 4: bench you too, bench to about losing your locker room

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Speaker 4: at that hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you

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Speaker 4: one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee

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Speaker 4: you one of the veterans that spoke out.

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Speaker 3: They're probably already speaking out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it ain't get out. It ain't get out

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Speaker 4: in the public yet.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean you know, and I think the

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Speaker 1: thing is, look, the last thing that you want to do,

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Speaker 1: because Dylan is still your teammate, it's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: You can never blame a player for an organization or

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Speaker 1: coach's decision.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't get mad at you because they put

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Speaker 1: his ass in there. I can't get mad at that.

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Speaker 1: I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted

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Speaker 1: him before me. Dad got nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 1: I wish him the best. I'm gonna support him as

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Speaker 1: best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the

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Speaker 1: guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But

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Speaker 1: I tell you, in a couple of years, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: wish you like Damn. I'm glad we took this guy

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Speaker 1: in the seventh round. We probably shouldn't taken it in early. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they got it right.

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Oh you get it. Yeah. Oh. He definitely

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Speaker 3: That's all you want.

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Speaker 4: And that's all that's all you can ask for. Consistency.

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Speaker 1: They've turned over a lot of stones.

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Speaker 3: And uh.

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Speaker 1: You know sometimes, oh show you gotta kiss a lot

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: No more.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have You're gonna have peace and prosperity for

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Speaker 4: I like it. I like it a matter of fact.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, here we go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now he's a solo Cup.

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Speaker 3: I do it with something. I do it with something.

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Coasts are in desperate need of a quarterback, so

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Speaker 3: They peak a Rivers interest.

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Speaker 1: They peaked Rivers interest enough to him to contemplate potentially

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Speaker 3: Hold up, he's like one of the numbinies would hold right? Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 1: If Rivers were to join the Coats after active rosters,

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Speaker 3: It resets, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he would have to wait an additional five years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I like it. I like it for him.

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Speaker 4: I like the opportunity for him, even though he's forty four.

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Speaker 4: You need a quarterback, Huh, Who do I say?

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Speaker 3: Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Oh my bad. The culture in a good position to

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Speaker 1: They wanted they wanted him to come. They wanted him

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Speaker 4: Wanted to go back. Maybe he didn't have interest. Maybe

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Speaker 6: He wanted to come back and play after five years, okay, five,

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Speaker 6: Oh that's him.

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Speaker 4: Hey, he rested up, shoulders, good, throwing motion, everything good.

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Speaker 4: Body's heeled up a little bit. Man, he might come

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Speaker 3: Man, you don't think so, No, I mean, can't he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey he can. He can slinging that rock even

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Speaker 4: Gonna let it, We're gonna let it rip.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you know what sixty thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listens the point that they didn't win more

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Speaker 3: Go figure, damn.

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Speaker 4: I mean Cat was right there. Oh, Cam was right

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Speaker 1: Playing no football. Cavin told y'all didn't want to play

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Speaker 1: no football. Let that sink in. So what that tell you? Athey, Richardson,

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Speaker 3: Yam?

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Speaker 3: Is he? Oh that's right. He had his shoulder his

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Speaker 1: Huh he broke it over the win?

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Speaker 3: Oh that band? Was it? The band? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Damn, the Coats have some terrible ass. Look, they just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he just got back.

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Speaker 4: He heard you got Achilles.

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Speaker 4: Well, you got unc You got to give him a

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Speaker 4: gotta give him a chance. Him at forty four might

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised, o Jo.

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Speaker 1: I fractured my orbital and I was out three weeks

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Speaker 3: They had cleared me to play.

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Speaker 4: How they how?

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Speaker 3: Uh? What's his name? Anthony Richardson? Fraction is orbitally gone

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Speaker 3: for like two months?

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Speaker 4: You know them, pew, don't you know you already know

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Speaker 3: With that Ojo?

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Speaker 1: I would want him, I would actually Ojo I would

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Speaker 1: You need to be practicing, take the months to recover.

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Speaker 1: But I don't like this because I missed three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now the season ended. The season ended. They just told

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not touching a feel regardless.

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Speaker 3: You think it's over for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really, the way Daniel Jones has been playing really okay.

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Speaker 1: I said that'd have been the perfect opportunity for Anthony

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Speaker 4: They gave the opportunities already.

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Speaker 3: So he done.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not me. I'm not part of the organization.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying. I mean the writers on the wall.

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. What is his mentor?

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Speaker 3: So he's been working with him where he worked with

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Speaker 4: Right, and that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Says, right now, he's not ready. I told you, O Choe.

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Speaker 3: Well you the one just said no damn season long injury.

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Speaker 4: You just you just see I just told you that.

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Speaker 4: I just said that.

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Speaker 3: O Joe.

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00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh, when did he get hurt?

444
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: It ain't even about getting hurt. He's saying he's not ready.

445
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he talked about the injury.

446
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: I know he's not.

447
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: He did, oh, Jo, But think about that. Let that

448
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: figure for a SECONDO Joe. You a backup receiver. You

449
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: a backup receiver, You twenty four years old, and the

450
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: call they call lamb fitsh Gerald to come out of retirement.

451
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: You right there on the roster.

452
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: He had two years. He had two years.

453
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Oldo o jo the man that had got hurt on

454
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: October to twelveth so eight basically eight weeks ago. Oh

455
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and you uh sports tracks. You look at

456
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: guys that are uh on the current NFL practice squad

457
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: are Trevor Simeon is Tennessee, who's been a starter, Sam Hartman,

458
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Cole mc kyle McCord. I mean they, I mean, Brett

459
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: Ripping is in there and there he was a starter

460
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: in Denver, C J. Bethart, Sam Ellinger, Will Griers in Dallas,

461
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: Bailey ZAPPI damn, yeah, well you have it. You have

462
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: it over room yeah, hell yeah, yeah. You're mission is

463
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna be timporarily a players.

464
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 3: I had it absolutely. I was seeing triple Yeah.

465
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: But you already know what the play is with that man, Anthy.

466
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they gave him opportunity after the opportunity after opportunity.

467
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything with him, And I think they

468
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 4: just don't see don't see a situation where giving him

469
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: another opportunity to prove himself would work. There's a reason

470
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: why they signed Danny Dimes that one year that we

471
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: understood that, but at that point. You know that ship

472
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 4: is sell.

473
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Doctor.

474
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: Damn.

475
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: He saw his first coach game, so he hadn't been

476
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: at practice. The doctors advised him to stay at home

477
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: and rest. I don't know every Every injury is different,

478
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: so I shouldn't look. I'm just telling you I had

479
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: the injury. Three weeks I was cleared, and they just

480
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: told me and the whole next year. Oh Joe, I

481
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: wore a shield because I could. I can ill afford.

482
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of like after the David's got to wear

483
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: goggles because the doctor says, if you get poked in

484
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: the eye one more time, you might end up losing

485
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: vision in that eye.

486
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: Same thing would create. So I get it. I get it.

487
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: Oh chose earlier. I gave you good news. Now I

488
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: am never bad now.

489
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, huh, let

490
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: me get comfortable. Damn.

491
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead.

492
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: The Bengals will be without defensive end Trey Hendrickson for

493
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. He's expected to undergo core

494
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: muscle surgery. Uh.

495
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: He suffered the injury back in Week six.

496
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Then it hasn't played since Week eight after he sustained

497
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: a hip injury. There was hope he will return at

498
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: some point this season, but that won't be the case.

499
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: Well, what's the bad news he ain't coming back?

500
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: Well, uncle, but hell, he ain't been there the past

501
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 4: few weeks anyway.

502
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, my bad. I thought you was gonna miss him.

503
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, hell, I mean, ma'am. He been

504
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: hurt a.

505
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: Shelf so that core muscle, probably that sports hernia surgery

506
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: from lifting.

507
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: That's probably living too damn heavy. That's why I need see, man,

508
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: That's why I need to be all these injuries.

509
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: Man, It just they oh Joe, that man, that man

510
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: is a defensive lineman. He can't be eating no little vitals.

511
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: He can't be no vegetarian eating that stuff. They Rudy's

512
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: ass up out of there.

513
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 4: Nah, they ain't what I'm talking about, man, Like they Okay,

514
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: if you're not gonna listen to me as a nutritionist,

515
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: at least listen to me as a strength and conditioning coach, hey, y'all,

516
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 4: at least like, come on, man, you still y'all be

517
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: laughing and making fun of me though I played all

518
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 4: the years with no injuries. Man, People like it's not registering. Man. Oh,

519
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: they keep they keep listening to all these damn specialists

520
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: and all these professionals. But for some reason, everybody keep

521
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 4: getting hurt, non contact injuries. Uh, they pulling this, they

522
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: tearing that, Like, come.

523
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: On, man, Yoe, you just fortunate.

524
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: Hey, hey listen, ain't nothing fortunate whenning the lottery is fortunate.

525
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: What I was able to do that ain't number God.

526
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and you didn't get hurt.

527
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: That's what I did. I can't. Man.

528
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: You look at you.

529
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: You you play this game of football. It's hard. You're

530
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: very fortunate. You wanted a few that played this game

531
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: and didn't really have any injuries, and you walked up

532
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: the feeld as healthy as you walked on it.

533
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because because I was the one delivering the punishment.

534
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: I was delivering the punishment. I was the savage. I

535
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: was that boy. I was that boy out there.

536
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Man.

537
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: I know I was key kid had and entertaining, but man,

538
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: I was I was an animal out there.

539
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Man.

540
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: I had them boys scared. Man, Man, I ain't gonna

541
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: say nothing. I ain't gonna say nothing.

542
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Yoe, it doesn't come as a surprise because I

543
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: told you this was gonna happen. To tell you, some

544
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: types of sideline reporter will Bowling has been removed from

545
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: the team's charter flights going forward. Bowling shared something that

546
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: he witnessed on the plane ride of a trip home

547
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: from Cleveland.

548
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: After week fourteen.

549
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: Bowling addressed the situation during his daily radio show and

550
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: apologize for relay in the story and that has now

551
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: understands he should have been considered off the record. Yes,

552
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: everything that you if they're not if they're not speaking

553
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: directly to you, is off the record.

554
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: You don't get to go. You don't get to go

555
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: on the team plane.

556
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Do you know how many reporters have seen things on

557
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: the team fight plane or who's laid or who's Maybe

558
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: they've been a fight, maybe they've been some some some

559
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: things that shouldn't have been going on because back then

560
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: we used to have the little portable DVDs and guys

561
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: be watching things they should be watching. Hey, guys be

562
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: drinking and things of that nature. You keep your mind shut. Yeah,

563
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: he got to learn the hard way. Now you got

564
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to fly find your all way to the city. And

565
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be like, man, we can't trust old boy.

566
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Old boy go It gonna.

567
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: Be like, yeah, hey, listen, they for one you've give

568
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 4: an opportunity to to to to have access, to be around,

569
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: to to be on those charter flights. And you can't

570
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: just take everything you see and try to use it,

571
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: to use it to your advantage. And yes, and you

572
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: and make it a story. Now now you Now you're outside,

573
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, outside the window, looking peeking through the blinds.

574
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

575
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: Now I'm not even sure where he I mean for

576
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: years going forward where they probably where they where they

577
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: probably not.

578
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: He probably won't be allowed on. He probably will not

579
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: be allowed back on the plane.

580
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: Now now you're done messed up. You don't mess up.

581
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: You don't messed up a good opportunity just to have

582
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: a story.

583
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Yes, everything, Oh Joe, I give you prime example. I remember,

584
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: uh Peyton Manning's first year, Yeah, first year in Denver.

585
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

586
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: Uh, we're doing the story. And I watched him practice. Yeah,

587
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: he hadn't had this all year. He's throwing with a glove. Yeah,

588
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: oh it's cold, but remember he had that nerve damage,

589
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: but proud of that. He had been throwing bare handed. Right,

590
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I see him, he's practicing with a glove. I see

591
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: all these gloves in his locker. It would have been

592
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: nothing for me to take a pair he got twenty

593
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: of them in his locker right, put him in my

594
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: bag and says, guys, this is what Peyton mann is

595
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing the football with today. He did have

596
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: been a great story Shannon Brak's News Peyton Manning. And

597
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: sure enough he comes out there throwing like, oh nah, bro,

598
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: everything ain't meant ain't meant to be said? Yeah, yeah

599
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: everything plus that is my team until they trust me.

600
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: I got free raid, oh Joe. I go anywhere I

601
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: want to. I know the cold.

602
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: I pushed the cold. Hey they don't. I punched the cody.

603
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Going in right right right where I want to go.

604
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: I go upstairs, I go to mister Bowling's office, I

605
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: go walking around. I'm in coaching. I mean, I go

606
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: to John Fox and I go to job, I go

607
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: everywhere I see.

608
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: So so we the same with the access you have

609
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: and in Denver is the same way I am down

610
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. And the funny thing about it, you know,

611
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: I think while we have that access the way you do,

612
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: and and and for me it's always arms are always

613
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: open and welcome because I don't take advantage of it.

614
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: I only go there maybe twice a year, maybe twice

615
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: a year.

616
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: You know that that that's it.

617
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: And I think if think, I think, if knowing the

618
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: access that I do have and the love that they

619
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: do show in that stadium where I can go from

620
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: top to bottom and I can go anywhere I want anywhere,

621
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: if I did it all of goddamn time, they'd be like,

622
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: all right, now, come on, let me.

623
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: I used to be able to do that. I don't

624
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: have that access anymore now. Oh no, I don't know.

625
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't go back.

626
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: They they invite me back for alumni things and uh

627
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: uh uh brought you know, the Super Bowl teams and

628
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: stuff like that. When guys get to go to the ring,

629
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: go to the Ring of honor. I haven't been back.

630
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I have a great relationship. I met uh the Waltons,

631
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I met Dependers, I met all of them. They were

632
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: great to me, had a great conversation, but I don't

633
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: know them like I knew mister Bowling them. You know,

634
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: maybe I take some time and I go back and

635
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: and you know, sit down and have a conversation with him.

636
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: But I'm like you oo, I'm never gonna wear out

637
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: my welcome. Even though I had the access that I had,

638
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: I didn't go back and take advantage of it, you know,

639
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and I would go back when they invited me. When

640
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: it came time for the Super Bowl, you best believed.

641
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: He yeah, you were there. Yeah.

642
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: So hey, listen, you know I'm excited on you know,

643
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: I'm excited. So obviously, most of the time I was

644
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: doing one year since since I retired, one game of year.

645
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: I always made it, made it out to one game year.

646
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: This will be the first year since I retired. And

647
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: what was that, I mean, sincely left there, since I

648
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: left yet where I'm going to a second game. I'm

649
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: going to a second game. Obviously, I'm not counting the

650
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: Ravens game. I'm not counting the Ravens game, you know,

651
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: and Thursday night on Thanksgiving. But this Sunday, I'm going back.

652
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm going back for the Ravens game. And I mean,

653
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: it's just just what the warmth and the welcome and

654
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: the grace that they've shown me when I am no

655
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: longer any value to you, I'm no longer any value

656
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: to you, and they still treat me that. Whether it

657
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: be the fans, whether it be ownership Zach Taylor, whether

658
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: it be the players with open arms.

659
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: It's like I'm and.

660
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: The fact that they still treat you like that when

661
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: you're no longer of any value. I'm not on the payroll.

662
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm not on the payroll.

663
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: Play there. I think the fans appreciate that.

664
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Fans fans know who the guys that really cared, that

665
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: played their ass off, that gave everything they possibly had,

666
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: left nothing on the field, and when they left, they're like,

667
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: you know what, we got everything had. We ain't never

668
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: had to worry about eighty four cause we know, go

669
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: get to us. Yes, it became difficult on Shoe because

670
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I worked. I worked at I worked at CBS for

671
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: a decade. I saw how am I gonna get I'm

672
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: in New York, how am I gonna get back? They

673
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I went back when they put me into the Ring

674
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: of Fame in two thousand and nine. I went back

675
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: again in twenty eleven when they put me I got

676
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: my receiving my ring for the Hall of Fame.

677
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: But it was hard for me to get back because

678
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm working.

679
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: I can't.

680
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, you know the Broncos really wanted

681
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: me to come back. Now I can't miswork like that.

682
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: And then I started working at a at Fox for

683
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: n Disputed for seven years and it was hard and

684
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: I went back.

685
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: I think I went back once.

686
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: But it's really hard, oh Joe, to go back when

687
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I got to watch all these games and I'm at

688
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: one game even though you know they got it on it,

689
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: you know. Mr B like, oh, you know, shaying Sharpe,

690
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: what game you want to watch? And I was like,

691
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: don't worry about the mister B. So it's really hard.

692
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: I can't. It's hard for me to talk about something,

693
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: O Joe, if I don't see it right.

694
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: I need to see it so I can tell you

695
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: the intricacy of what actually happened, the design of the

696
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: player to make up the defense, X, Y and Z.

697
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: So that's real.

698
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: That's really the main reason, really A ten events with

699
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: other events are going on because I need to be

700
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: able to.

701
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: Tell you what actually happened.

702
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: Like oh but but and speaking of being able to

703
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: tell you what actually is going to happen, I'm gonna

704
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: tell you your Raven's gonna lose again.

705
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: Ah, there you go.

706
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying every game I'm in attendance

707
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: till you do understand. I went to the Thursday Night game,

708
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow's first game back you see what happened. You

709
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: see what happened right and this, I got another. I

710
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: got your raveis, I got your I got your boy.

711
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: You know your Ravens fan. I got Butter. I'm not

712
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you've seen some of the clips

713
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: when that that Butter makes some time I happen listen

714
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Butter stayed away in Seattle. I didn't got Butter ticket, right, yeah,

715
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: I don't got Butter ticket. I'm talking about he a

716
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: huge Ravens fan. He flying tomorrow, Okay, he flying, Yeah,

717
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: he's flying the Cincinnati tomorrow. I'm I'm gonna meet him

718
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: out there on Friday evening, and I allow him to

719
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: see greatness in person. I want I want him to

720
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: see greatness in person. I want I want him to

721
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: be able to I want him to be because he

722
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: streams and increase content. I want his content to be

723
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: authentic and organic. And I want him right there. I

724
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: want I want him right there front and center, you know,

725
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: watching the Ravens lose, you know, And and I want

726
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: him to cry. I want I want him to cry

727
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: so we can see. I don't you know, you know

728
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: one thing about it. It's very hard for me to

729
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: talk about people. It's very difficult for me. I can

730
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: be I can be critical from critique players, but I

731
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: wanted to see seventy seven person. I want I want

732
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: him to see seventy seven in person and to see

733
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: why Lamar is gonna be frustrated, why he's gonna get sacked,

734
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: why he's gonna be running for his life, and the

735
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: Bengals are coming away with another wind and one step

736
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: closer to winning the AFC North that hasn't gone in

737
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: our favor all season long.

738
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, for this gentleman, o Ko, I don't know, he's

739
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: got to be young, because no veteran reporter would ever

740
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: do something like this.

741
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 4: You think you think he's young.

742
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: He gotta be young.

743
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying he I'm not maybe an

744
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: age wise, but it'd be interesting to know how long

745
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: he's been in this capacity doing this job. That's that's understood.

746
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we got we got women on the plane.

747
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean we used to have women reporters. Lynda Brewin

748
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: rest her soul. Le lev was great.

749
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: She was great. She would always come to me.

750
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: I was like, le do you not have She's like

751
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: Michelle and you're gonna give it to me straight, I know,

752
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: but somebody else might give it to you straight too.

753
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: You don't want to get it from them.

754
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: But she was she was always she was always great,

755
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: and we were always respectful, and I made sure guys

756
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: were respectful of her, especially women, Uh save Steele. Her

757
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: first job was with the Right, you know, as a reporter,

758
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: was with the Right, Right and all that that, you know,

759
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, she's obviously she's attractive. No, boy,

760
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: we're not finna do that. That led her, Finn to

761
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: do her job, and we're gonna allow her to do

762
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: her job, and we're going to be professional.

763
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna do. She'll tell you.

764
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Ask her, she'll tell you. Now, we're gonna be professional.

765
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: That's not the way we do things. But on the plane,

766
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: oh Joe, we like, look we did we gamble, We

767
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: played card for money, and then you know, obviously they

768
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: got to go to the bathroom, one Joe. They couldn't

769
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: go in the first class because that's where the coaches were,

770
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: so they had to come by. We move out the way,

771
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: and Mike just say, eighty four, can we not gamble

772
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: on the plane? You know, hey, y'all get to the room.

773
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Have bad it you play your card, you know, play cards,

774
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: roll your dice.

775
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: But can we not? Okay? Done now?

776
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: The only thing that I really got I don't really

777
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: get mad at mad. Animals get mad, humans get upset.

778
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't really get upset because Mike was like Mike

779
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: was like obviously he let the vets handle the stuff.

780
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: And we did a great job.

781
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I think the committee, the community, the committee that was

782
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: in charge of OJOE, I thought we did a very

783
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: good job of dealing with stuff before it got big

784
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: enough to eat that Mike would have to intervene, right,

785
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: Mike said it was brought to his attention, and I

786
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: know who told him. The flight attendants did. Oh till

787
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: you remember them the portable dv chat. I know, y'all

788
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: remember the portable DVDs.

789
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the bigger they was kind of big a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

790
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 4: what y'all were watching? What y'all were watching?

791
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: They know y'all. First of all, I had one. But man,

792
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: y'all know my personality. I'm gonna be joning on the plane.

793
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I'ma be talking about what you wore, what you wore

794
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: on the play, and that's good and terrible, and I'm

795
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell your answer up once we get on the

796
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: second team bus, so you make sure you get nah nah. Man,

797
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: everybody want to go and Bust one if they got

798
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: on some bull drive. They want to go on bust

799
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: one because that's the bus.

800
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: Mike on.

801
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

802
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know we're not gonna we can't get get

803
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: your ass on Bus two. Man sew what bus you

804
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: don't get no Bus two, Mike asked it. Look, guys,

805
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: it's been brought down, been brought to my attention. Guys

806
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: are watching stuff you shouldn't be watching, Like what what

807
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: they can't watch the man them joke, gonna be watching

808
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: spansion in the hotel.

809
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: We call it spansual vision spanks vision.

810
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, what the hell is that? Chad tell o, Joe,

811
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: what ain't nobody spanks your vision?

812
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: What that that?

813
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: Never heard of that?

814
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: That's where you watching the mono the more dirty movies.

815
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about like Debbie Dunch Dallas. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,

816
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: god phones, oh Joe, no, oh Joe.

817
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: The fire attendants coming giving you food and walking up

818
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and down ask you if you want anything to drink.

819
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: They walk about pushing the cart and they.

820
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: See that oh Okay, okay, okay. See, they got their

821
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: eyes in the wrong place. They need to mind it

822
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: getting back.

823
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: Look here, you know, you walking up and that. It's

824
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: just like you walking up and down. You go to

825
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: the bathroom and somebody somebody feeling out their things.

826
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: You you go see it.

827
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: It's just the way they ain't nobody walking straight ahead.

828
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: You're not looking to your left, you're not looking to

829
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: your right. You're walking Yeah, yeah, Mike, say, look, guys,

830
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't try to tell you guys what to do,

831
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: you grown men, but let's not do this.

832
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're right. You're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah,

833
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 4: that that a them boy watching that thing with that plane.

834
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: I'm coming back home.

835
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: Man.

836
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: I slammed that thing. I slammed somebody. I think I

837
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: broke it. I said to see because here's the thing.

838
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh your way, I look at it.

839
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: You know how coach it is.

840
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Somebody jump off side. We all got to run. I

841
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: ain't even do nothing. As a matter of fact, I

842
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: wasn't even in right. So we gotta run. So if

843
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: that gets out again, what might's gonna do. Might gonna

844
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: punish everybody. Nah, you not fitna mess it. Up because

845
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: you can't control your behavior. Nah, that's not gonna happen.

846
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: So that's where you know, man, Bro, the man told you,

847
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.

848
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: We get what we want.

849
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: We get free, we get free, we get free movies.

850
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Everybody got a free movie. Whatever you want to watch

851
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: I want, I mean me and birds. I watch Player Club.

852
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I bet you I watched Players Club twenty five thirty

853
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: times to your man, fooling he Bro, I just I

854
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: just didn't want guys to mess it up one person

855
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: for two people to mess it up for fifty. So

856
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have to, like, Bro, come on

857
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: now you have to you know. But on the plane, Bro,

858
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: you can't talk about you can't as a reporter.

859
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're right.

860
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: Even me now, knowing what I know, I know. Look,

861
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: I make calls here and there. I just let it go.

862
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: I just let it go on. Yo.

863
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't say nothing. I know a lot of things

864
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: that have transpired, be an NBA, be at NFL.

865
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: That isn't what I do. I just let people think.

866
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: I'll just be talking out.

867
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: My yeah and don't and don't know what you're talking about.

868
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: But guess who know what I'm talking about the people

869
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: that I'm talking about. Yeah, oh Joe.

870
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: Head coach Brian Schottenheimer says he had a talk with

871
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: George Pickens about the effort following the Lions Lions game

872
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and the now deleted i G post about Richard Sherman. Shody,

873
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: that's what they call it, said. Pickings owned it, telling him, hey, Shody,

874
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: I didn't play my best game. He made it clear

875
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: is he's not worried about all that pickets efforts moving forward, saying, unfortunately,

876
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: none of us played our best game. That's real. But

877
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't worry about George and his love for football

878
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: and playing this game. So pick the right thing to do.

879
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: If your coach talked to you about your effort, apologize

880
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: to Richard Sherman.

881
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: All he did. He didn't say you was a bad person.

882
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: He didn't say.

883
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: All he said was that effort ain't good enough, especially

884
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: especially double, especially when CD leaves leaves the game. Your

885
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: coach if it was that, if it wasn't that big

886
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: of a deal, why would your head coach have a

887
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: conversation about your effort. It's okay sometimes, oh Joe. We

888
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: said all the time here. When emotion is high, logic

889
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: is low. Yeah, I man, and look, oh Joe, I

890
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: don't play my best game and you point that out.

891
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: Man, help you. I get it, I get it, I

892
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: get it.

893
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: I totally understand. And I don't want people to think

894
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: I don't understand because I do. And I don't want

895
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: you to think Shannon Sharpe was ever perfect in any

896
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: game because I wasn't.

897
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: I had drops, I.

898
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: Had missed the signmon's, but my job was not my

899
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I always prided myself in Shannon, don't make that mistake again.

900
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 3: You know what you did wrong.

901
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: But if somebody called me out for something that I did,

902
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I can't be wrong. I can't be wrong that the

903
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: coach called me out about a miss block. I missed

904
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the block, right, I didn't get my head across. I

905
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: took terrible I ain't gonna took terrible steps. Why do

906
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I get mad at somebody for pointing out what you.

907
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: Know you did wrong? Hey, all you gotta do? Ain't

908
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: surem man, I I'm sorry, bro.

909
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, he ain't apologizing to sharm But I

910
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: know I can tell you that right now that's not coming.

911
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 4: But on the field, it's gonna change. It's gonna change.

912
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: You Knowles he be even good the past thirteen fourteen

913
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: weeks you had, you know, a little little mental laps,

914
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, a little a little lack of days ago.

915
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 4: But hey, damn.

916
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: No.

917
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: But but see what y'all feel the rison that y'll say, No,

918
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: he's playing for a contract with you show sol yo,

919
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: And so let me ask you a question and you

920
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: can speak to this because you're a receiver. Yeah, that

921
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: kind of with its history based on what happened in Pittsburgh.

922
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: Now he comes here and have a game. So how

923
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: your agent going there? It says Pickings is gonna be

924
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: on time, Pickles is gonna be on time for meeting,

925
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be on prime for practice. He's gonna be

926
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, and he's gonna give you

927
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: your effort.

928
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: How you sell that?

929
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: You say, you say, how you sell it?

930
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

931
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: What week we in?

932
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

933
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: We in week this fourteen?

934
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: Well I use I use the other twelve weeks to

935
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: sell it?

936
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: What about what about the other four years? See you

937
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: see you got thirteen weeks, I got three years in a.

938
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: In a in a game.

939
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 4: If we're gonna we're gonna use what happened in Pittsburgh.

940
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Are we gonna use what we did the first thirt

941
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: tier A, We're gonna use what we did the first

942
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: twelve weeks.

943
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean, when it's time to get paid, they're gonna

944
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: use your what they gonna have you gotta update your resumes.

945
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: So it's basically recently.

946
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: But but what have I seen more of him giving

947
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: me that effort the first twelve weeks or the effort

948
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: that I saw.

949
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: On lasting Okay, you're right, you're right right, And you.

950
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: Know how they're gonna, Oh, Joe, you know how they're

951
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna do it now, all this stuff in his contract,

952
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: all these clauses where they can claw back money.

953
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: You I'm just telling you how they do it.

954
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, you know the game they play,

955
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: you know, but you know, you know what, he gonna

956
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: get his money, But they're gonna have a whole lot

957
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: of clauses in it. Though they're gonna have They're gonna

958
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: have a lot of clauthes.

959
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's and.

960
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: That's and that's all I'm saying. I don't want, Hey,

961
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't want you to try to claw back money now.

962
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: If I'm late for something, if I meet something now,

963
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: I can potentially avoid the contract. I can avoid the

964
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: u uh uh, the guaranteed money or roster bonuses. Hey, no, yeah,

965
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: I can honestly say, oh, Yoe, I don't know about you,

966
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: but I ain't never had nothing like that in my contract.

967
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: I do have a weight clause in my contract. When

968
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: people start putting stuff in their contract, what are they

969
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, we don't trust you?

970
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically basically trying to think the reason.

971
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Why they putting that, the reason why they put that

972
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: clause in college contract? What do they have in Zion

973
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Williams contract, go Joe, why they don't trust They got

974
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: a weight clausing now, yeah, absolutely, huh Yeah, the same

975
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: thing with Eddie Lacy.

976
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: He ain't big Eddie. What Eddie was big? Uh?

977
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: Literally and figured me. But but I'm saying, I don't

978
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: I know put in my car. I get it.

979
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: There's gonna be certain clauses that they it's just standing

980
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: procedure for a contract, and we get that. But you

981
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: ain't finna putting no weight clause. You ain't finna put

982
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: no on time clause because no, I need all my money.

983
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to give you nothing, and I'm not

984
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: trying to If I do something, it voids it.

985
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: Right, that's all saying. Pick you too, good boy, go

986
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: get this money, get it.

987
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah this think I'm talking about thinking about clauses.

988
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 3: Shit.

989
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 4: I ain't had no damn clauses.

990
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: Shit.

991
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: And should I kept getting all my money back?

992
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

993
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: I want. I wasn't tripping.

994
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: Pit.

995
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: I ain't tell her what somebody told me. You're talking

996
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: to a guy that, uh hepped up some money.

997
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, pick gonna get him boys hair next week, but

998
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: give him hair. Shit.

999
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: And despite the post lords, uh he's had o Joe

1000
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: even with all that. He's seventy catchers is a career high.

1001
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: He's eleven hundred and seventy nine yards is a career high.

1002
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: Ain't touchdown is a career high. Nobody has ever ever

1003
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: doubted George Pickens talent. Nobody, It's unquestioned. It's off the charts, yep,

1004
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: off the charts.

1005
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: Bro these last four weeks.

1006
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: And if you guys make the playoffs, let it be

1007
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: the hardest you've ever played, and go get you a

1008
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: contract that if you if this is the last contract

1009
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: you get, you can go shut it down. Go back

1010
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: to Georgia or wherever. You're from and live happily ever after.

1011
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: That's what you do. That's what you do.

1012
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: Pick.

1013
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: Don't mess this opportunity up. Sometimes people get multiple opportunities.

1014
00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't get your honey.

1015
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: Pick yes, sir, huh I was like, why you keep

1016
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: looking at me?

1017
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: Where am i?

1018
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Uh ad put the p pos? Talking about your sh shaved? Yes, no,

1019
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: let it grow, but you shaved?

1020
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 5: What?

1021
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay, I know you can't grow one.

1022
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: I can grow. I grow mine like Rick Ross.

1023
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you're gonna get you'll get what the

1024
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: beutitt No, No, I can get.

1025
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: I can get a real a matter of fact, that's

1026
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: a good idea matter of fact. When we when we

1027
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: do the live show, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a unit,

1028
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: a nice little beer with a lace or a lace

1029
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: front with the with the waves. I'm gonna be clean though.

1030
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. They're talking about to make it look old. What

1031
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: you mean, look I am, I'm fifty seven for another

1032
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: seven months. You don't.

1033
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: You don't look fifty. You you look like you buy

1034
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 4: you look like about thirty nine forty Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1035
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: You look No, no, no, no, no, I don't. I

1036
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: don't think it's puty great like prime.

1037
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: Now.

1038
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's time I've been. I don't think

1039
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: mine gonna be like salt and pepper.

1040
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know black folk. We a's gracefully man.

1041
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah you might.

1042
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah you might be fifty seven, but you look thirty

1043
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: nine forty Yeah yeah, yeah, you good, you good.

1044
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 5: Say.

1045
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 3: I do a lot of things like I'm in my twenties.

1046
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Let me start, let me talk, let me stop. No, uh, but.

1047
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see, I'm gonna go, I'm going to I'm

1048
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: gonna give it a month.

1049
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: So this is a this is a Saturday Sunday. I

1050
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: didn't save. I didn't I didn't shave Saturday Sunday, and

1051
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: I didn't shave today.

1052
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: So this is three days. Yeah, so I'm gonna see where.

1053
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see where it's gonna be out. Uh on

1054
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: the fifth.

1055
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 4: Okay, like listen, if you grow, if you grow yours out,

1056
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: I grow mine out, man. You know, sure we can

1057
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: look like we're from Philly with it, you know, with

1058
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: the beers.

1059
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: Hey, I will put that Beijing in mine. I don't

1060
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: get that. I'm gonna put that up fifty seventeen.

1061
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: Okay, A little ro game and have it and have

1062
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 4: it like a.

1063
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Uh uh have that thing like Big Perk and at

1064
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Rick Ross. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, give me some.

1065
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: Beard beard oil.

1066
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1067
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, I think I'm gonna do it hard.

1068
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1069
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: You grow yours out, man, I'm gonna grow mine out. Man,

1070
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get then. I'm gonna give me a little

1071
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 4: lace front with the waves. Nice little that's you got

1072
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: your uh your your hair gray? Noah head, No, not yet.

1073
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I'm young man, I'm about twenty three. Man,

1074
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: Now I don't get no gray hair yet.

1075
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. We're gonna We're gonna find out.

1076
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 4: But uh uh.

1077
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: Pick, I mean had picked.

1078
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: Pink.

1079
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 6: You got a chance for one hundred catchers, Oh Joe, yeah,

1080
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 6: chance for one hundred catchers. It's four games left, right,

1081
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 6: yeah yeah, even twenty two?

1082
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely yeah.

1083
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: And the way he played, that could be that could

1084
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: be fifteen hundred yards.

1085
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: They ain't gonna be able to deny that.

1086
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 3: So pick, get your money, bro, get your money. You'll

1087
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: be glad you did.

1088
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: The Chiefs could be officially eliminated from the playoff contentions

1089
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: in week fifteen, and Travis Kelcey said the situation is

1090
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: a tough reality for the six and seventeen to be in.

1091
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: Neither Kelsey nor the Chiefs have missed the playoffs since

1092
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. During the latest episode of New Heights, Travis said,

1093
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I've always had answers in the years.

1094
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: Past, and this year I just can't find them.

1095
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I keep thinking, if I show up to work and

1096
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: put in the work and fix the issue through my

1097
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: practice habit, through perfecting the game plan and my fundamentals,

1098
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: is what I've been taught. And to go out there

1099
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: and try to play my ass off for the guys

1100
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: next to me, and it's all come together like it's

1101
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: years past and this year it's just not tough. Yeah, stuff,

1102
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: it happens. It's coming to an end. Yeah yeah, you

1103
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: knows it. Everybody knows it. And the thing is is

1104
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: that is that when you start, it happens a lot.

1105
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you can take the joe. When you start

1106
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: to press, you're not playing like you want to play.

1107
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: It's lay in the ball game and you want to

1108
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: make every play. You want to take every play to

1109
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: the house. And so in order to do that, you

1110
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: got to like sometimes you got to like to do this.

1111
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: You see what I'm you see I ain't on the ball, Joe. Yeah,

1112
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get gone. I'm trying to get

1113
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: gone and ball on the ground. And he had a situation,

1114
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: uh Mahomes put it a little behind it. He dropped

1115
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: that one. He threw another one what we call the

1116
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: sail rock, and that one popped up in there. It

1117
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: was all on his head and taking it off it

1118
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: picked it. So it's frustrating because you know, you closer

1119
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: to the end at the beginning, and this might be

1120
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: the end.

1121
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it sucks. It sucks for Traffords.

1122
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 4: I think he came back, you know, contemplating contemplating retirement

1123
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: last year, but he didn't want to finish his career

1124
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: off that way. He came back this You're hoping things

1125
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: would be different, and just as as a team, it

1126
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: just hasn't gone well at all.

1127
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: And most of the time. One of the things that

1128
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 5: really hurt and really.

1129
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: Bothers bothers you as a competitor, and you put the

1130
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: work in during the week, you put the same hours,

1131
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: doing the same formula what you did in the past,

1132
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 4: and the end result was the Super Bowl.

1133
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: And now you're doing the same thing and things just

1134
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 5: aren't going well.

1135
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 4: The ball is not following your way, the calls you

1136
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: normally get from the refs that're not going your way

1137
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: this time just around.

1138
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the and that's the hardest, that's the

1139
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: hardest part coming to grips with that, because, like I said,

1140
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: my thing was Joe and O Joe. I could go

1141
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: out there, like there will be a game, I go

1142
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: get you one thirty one two touchdowns. Next game will

1143
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: be thirty yards, next game will be forty yards. I

1144
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do it back to back. Yeah, when I was

1145
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: in my like year six, seven, eight, one fifty one,

1146
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: sixty one one thirty ninety ninety two, tubs couldn't do

1147
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: it anymore. I can still have a big game. You

1148
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: go back, I think my last year, my last year,

1149
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: second to the last game, I go sell for one

1150
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: o one three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. But

1151
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: in between that, I just couldn't just and you know,

1152
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: play play who we played. Sad we played the Chargers,

1153
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: always had a good game.

1154
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: We get the Chargers. So a week before the.

1155
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: Bye week, Chargers thirteen one point fifty three three touchdowns,

1156
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: offensive player of the week, come out to bye week,

1157
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: get the Ravens nine for a buck sixty one. You know,

1158
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm cooking like I'm cooking like that. Gay, I'm cooking

1159
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm white hot. You know what I'm saying.

1160
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: You see, Oh I don't touch that. Yeah, I'm like that.

1161
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm killing everybody. Man, And you start to get older,

1162
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: it's tough and you I'm sore. It's taking me longer.

1163
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Whereas before I can, I can, I can play, I

1164
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: can play on a Sunday. And I felt like my

1165
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: first couple of years on Joe like that Sunday, like

1166
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: that Sunday Thursday game.

1167
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 5: Man, that ain't nothing, nothing at all.

1168
00:58:51,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, Joe, what your selment? You're ten? What is

1169
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: the bye week? I'm looking for the bide joke.

1170
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

1171
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. It's hard to back to back that thing

1172
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: like that.

1173
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1174
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's just it's just it's tough on him

1175
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: because we've seen a guy you can make the case

1176
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: and I can, and I do. I think he's do.

1177
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: I think I look, I think it's between him and Gronk.

1178
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: But I think when when you go look at the

1179
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: playoffs and you talk about a guy that has as

1180
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: many as many yards as many touchdowns as Jared Rice.

1181
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: And we know how we all hold Jared Rice in

1182
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: very high regard. You look at his numbers in the

1183
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: playoffs and they're right there. And what he's done in

1184
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: big moments, he's always been, especially in a playoff game.

1185
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: Excuse me, in playoff games, haven't been that. Yeah, And

1186
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: it's hard when you can't beat that anymore.

1187
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 5: Shuck mm hmm.

1188
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 7: Ye.

1189
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how time just slips on the way

1190
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: happened to us, all happened to us all And and

1191
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: like he said, he used to be able to fix

1192
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: that joke. He used to go, hey, oh, this is

1193
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: what I did wrong. You know what, instill instead have

1194
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: tried to rip, I probably should have did arm over

1195
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: instead of harm over.

1196
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: I should have ripped instead. The end of that, I

1197
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: probably should have collided.

1198
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 5: It.

1199
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: Knock you off ballot, break away from it. You know what,

1200
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to drop and helped a little more.

1201
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to sell it a little more. But

1202
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: after I mean, after a while, you see a guy

1203
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: in a movie long enough you already know what type

1204
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: of movie you gonna do.

1205
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 5: That's a good one.

1206
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 7: It's it's it's tough it's tough. It's tough. On came

1207
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 7: with Joe because we I mean as a competitor. I

1208
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 7: mean obviously you know the way the season ended for

1209
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 7: for him last year in the super Bowl. You know,

1210
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 7: he he couldn't retire like that, so he had to

1211
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 7: come back, you know what I mean. So, yes, when

1212
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 7: do you say, when do you feel like or even

1213
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 7: think that, man, I should just probably gonna give it up.

1214
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to do that. It is because.

1215
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: It's harder for a great player to give it up

1216
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: because when you're great, that's all you know. Yeah, and

1217
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: it's hard for you to be anything but great.

1218
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1219
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 5: But one thing about it, Joe and on that film

1220
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: won't lie to you. Let you know.

1221
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 4: You might think you great, but the iron the sky

1222
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 4: does not lie, and you can look like a shell

1223
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: of yourself, and watching and watching yourself, your body language,

1224
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 4: your mannerisms, it'll let you know, Yeah, I just ain't

1225
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: got it no more. It not the blocks, Hey, I'm

1226
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: always one step behind.

1227
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and then you know you looking at gather,

1228
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at guys that starting to they start to

1229
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: letting anybody guard me.

1230
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all don't got no more respect than that

1231
01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: for me. I'm like, who are you come from?

1232
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

1233
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, I'm offit, Joe, I'm offended.

1234
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1235
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I've used to get hold on.

1236
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: I've used to get in your best corner. I get

1237
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: number one on third down. Now they just got some guy.

1238
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh my goodness, I'm used. I'm used to getting

1239
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 7: double and triple team. Yes, I don't even know this

1240
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 7: dude guard me?

1241
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: Who is this? Yes, that's what they got.

1242
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: That's that's all the respect they gotten from me. Now,

1243
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: y'all ain't got no y'all ain't playing no Boxton one y'all. Hey, y'all,

1244
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: y'all ain't playing zone. But got a man trotted me

1245
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: everywhere I go. That's what I used to get on yo. Yeah, yeah,

1246
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: they're playing zone. But I got a guy going meet

1247
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: and I gotta read it like hold on, man, why

1248
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: you stop? I said, that's a zone, But yeah, you

1249
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: gotta got tailing you. Oh my goodness. And now they

1250
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: just got so Joe Smoe out there, hey, Cause that's

1251
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: that's back when you had them batteries in your legs.

1252
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: You ain't got them batteries no more. Man. Look here.

1253
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: That's a start stop. Hey that Hey the zorro rod

1254
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: that heads it that?

1255
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 5: Ah?

1256
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: Hey hey, oh Joe, you are you drive a stick stick?

1257
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: They getting on that clutch?

1258
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: You are?

1259
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: That was me?

1260
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: That's I was starting to stop it. Hey, run through contact?

1261
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Hey I started run through contact. Man, I start gott

1262
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: year thirteen, year fourteen, I hit that blink of blink.

1263
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: Let me get on up out of bound, especially if

1264
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: it's cold.

1265
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: I want to.

1266
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: And you watch guys as they start to get older,

1267
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: Watch how easy they go down.

1268
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 5: Nobody want none.

1269
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: Of that, Joe.

1270
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: You start looking at them, Look at them guys in

1271
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: year twelve, year thirteen, Watch out quick they pull that

1272
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: turf over the head.

1273
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: You think they jumping in the bed with his cold

1274
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: that they get that turf up on them.

1275
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, that's called a business decision.

1276
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1277
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 5: As you get older, you make more and more of

1278
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 5: them