1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: DAM Pure Normal podcast Network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sander Champlain. For almost twenty 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved one have 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: survived physical depth and so will we. Welcome to Shades 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife Every Monday since the beginning of May. 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: In you can find me in front of my computer 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: taking an online course between two pm and four pm 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: with the physical and trance medium Scott Milligan. It's a 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: class where we learn how to slow down, how to meditate, 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: how to quiet the mind so that we can break 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: down that veil between this world and the next world. 22 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Now You've heard me talk about Scott Milligan plenty of 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: times on earlier episodes, but I've really witnessed miracles being 24 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: part of sitting with him, both live and online online. 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Every Friday we do a demonstration of trance mediumship, which 26 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: is Scott quieting his mind, closing his eyes, hearing a 27 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: few pieces of music just to let go. He's been 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: working twenty five years with his spirit team in darkness, 29 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: quieting the mind and letting them speak through him. So 30 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: part of this episode, I want to talk about quieting 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the mind and dialing in even further, kind of like 32 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: on our radio dial how we can be in touch 33 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: with our loved ones, to really sense them and feel them. 34 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: The other part is to deal with the skeptical mind, 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: because even yours, truly yes me, Sander Champlain, after all 36 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: these years of discovering and talking about the afterlife, I 37 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: still get nervous sharing about it. Even you guys who 38 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: are listening right now are interested in the show, and 39 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: I worry, what are you going to think? I'm talking 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: about trans mediumship or I could be talking about near 41 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: death experiences or dream visitations. Does your mind say sometimes? Well, 42 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: this sounds good and other times like this is impossible, 43 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: can't possibly be true. We each have a skeptical mind, 44 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: which is healthy because we don't want to believe everything 45 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: people tell us. Also, we have loved ones and friends 46 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: that we would love to talk to about the afterlife, 47 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: about grief, the big questions like what is life for? 48 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: What is my purpose? Do you believe in the afterlife? 49 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Do you believe in heaven? All these things be great 50 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: to share with people in our lives, but if you're 51 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: anything like me, you worry about what other people think. 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: In my personal life, there is a handful of people 53 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: that I can be open and talk to, like I'm 54 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: talking to you right now. Most of the people I 55 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: know that I converse with about this are millions of 56 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: miles away. There are people listening on a podcast. They 57 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: are friends of mine from seminars. And I do have 58 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: a few people in my life that I can talk to, 59 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: but not too many. My dad's sister, my auntie Donna, 60 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: who I own a house with. She's pretty cool. She 61 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: loves to hear all my stories. She's come to my 62 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: life we Don't Die conferences. She has met the players, 63 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: she's met the mediums, she has experienced the miraculous. She 64 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: wants more. Now. My sweet mom, who I adore, is 65 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: a little different. She loves me, she supports me, she 66 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: wants me to be happy. But she has been honest. 67 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: She's grown up in a generation where it was rather 68 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: taboo to talk about this kind of subject. In her mind, 69 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: if she went to a medium demonstration and say one 70 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: of her parents came through, she honestly doesn't know how 71 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: she'd be able to handle it. So we have an 72 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: agreement that I don't push my stuff on her, but 73 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: she's willing to listen. So wouldn't it be great to 74 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: be able to talk about the afterlife and do it 75 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: in a way where people listen. So I'd like to 76 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: use part of this episode to talk about that, because 77 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: we all want to feel comfortable talking about our passions, 78 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: don't we? I think we do. But let's go back 79 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: to what I said in the beginning. In class with 80 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Scott Milligan, he often uses this expression from the great 81 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: spiritual teacher Silver Birch. He says, the silence of your 82 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: world is the activity of ours, and the activity of 83 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: your world is the silence of ours. So I was 84 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: really thinking about this phrase, meaning that the silence of 85 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: our world. That means when we human beings can slow 86 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: down and be quiet in our mind is when the 87 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: spirit world our loved ones can get through and reach 88 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: us through thoughts, through our imagination, through feelings. But the 89 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: second part of that phrases, the activity of your world 90 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: is the silence of ours. So how often are we multitasking? 91 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: We are so busy in our brain about what we 92 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: need to do, what's going on at the present moment. 93 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we're stewing about something that happened in the past. Oh, 94 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: we're checking our phone, we get a text message, we 95 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: may be driving. There could be so many things happening 96 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: all at one time. So this is what I mean 97 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: about the activity of our world. Now, the spirit world 98 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: our loved ones can't get through. They say that we 99 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: are on a different vibrational wavelength, and I believe that 100 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: if you think of a puddle of water that evaporates 101 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: and turns to vapor, turns to a cloud, it's a 102 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: different an kind of energy. Now it's still water, right, 103 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the same basic makeup, but it's different same thing. We're 104 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: human beings. Our body dies, our energy lives on. We 105 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: are vibrating a little differently. Quantum mechanics, and that whole 106 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: science of that has determined to our tiniest little atom 107 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: that we are made up of. Inside of our molecules, 108 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: all we are is invisible vibrating energy. When we go, migrate, die, transition, 109 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, we vibrate a little different. 110 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: It's proven that two or more forms of energy can 111 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: be at the same place at the same time. So personally, 112 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe Heaven is up there out there somewhere 113 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: far away. I really do believe it is the hereafter, 114 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: right here, right now, vibrating, just like our radio signal, 115 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: those our television signals, are GPS signals, all those things 116 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: that are happening invisibly right here around us. I think 117 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: we are part of their world, as opposed to them 118 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: being part of our world. I think with our human 119 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: minds we can't possibly understand the entire realm of existence, 120 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think we're meant to. Today in class, 121 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Scott Milligan talked about this radio dial and if you 122 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: remember back in the day where we actually had dials 123 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: on radios, you would want to dial in a frequency 124 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: you would hear a song kind of a little fuzzy, 125 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: and you turn the dial to see if you can 126 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: get it in any clearer. The same thing holds true 127 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: when we want to tap into our loved ones who 128 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: are in the afterlife, if we want to work with 129 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: our spirit guides, these beautiful beings who have signed up 130 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: to be by our sides throughout our lives to encourage 131 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: us and help us. But it takes that silence of 132 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: our world so that they can be active and we 133 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: can actually listen. So just imagine for a second that 134 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: you are dialing that radio dial and you really want 135 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: to tune it in to this unseen world. That phrase 136 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: that Scott had talked about the silence of your world 137 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: is the activity of ours, and the activity of your 138 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: world is the silence of ours. I wanted to know 139 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: where it came from, so he didn't exactly have it 140 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: correct how it was spoken. But I want to just 141 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: read to you something I found that's very, very fascinating. First, 142 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about silver birch. Back in the day, 143 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: it was very common practice for people to get together 144 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: and sit in what's called home circles. They would sit together, 145 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: they would sing songs, they would enjoy themselves and in 146 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: the quiet a voice would come out of one of 147 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: the people. They would have a mediumistic tendencies or mediumistic qualities, 148 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: so sometimes one of the people would seem to be 149 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: in a trance like state and these words of wisdom 150 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: would come out of their mouth. So it was back 151 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: in the I can't remember if it's the nineteen thirties 152 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: nineteen forties, but there was a newspaper reporter named Maurice Barbannell, 153 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: who I talked about in detail on episode four of 154 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: this show. If you want to go back and listen 155 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: to that, this gentleman went to sit in one of 156 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: those home circles in their community. When he went in, 157 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: his experience was that he fell asleep, not so he 158 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: got put into one of these trance like states and 159 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: the voice of a Native American came through. The name 160 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: of the guide was called Big Jump. And over many, many, 161 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: many years, this newspaper reporter actually became the medium for 162 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: this circle. Thousands of hours of recorded information got stored, 163 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot of it was written into books. You can 164 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: find one audio on YouTube that is the voice of 165 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Silver Birch. I'll see if I can include it in 166 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: this episode, because it's pretty amazing. I know I said, 167 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: big jump. But over time, when they went to publicize this, 168 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: they changed the name to Silver Birch. The name wasn't 169 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: important to the guide, yet the people of that circle 170 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: thought the name Silver Birch had a little bit more 171 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: of a punch. So when we come back from our break, 172 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: what I would like to do is read you a 173 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: clip of where of that expression came from. The Silence 174 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: of your world is the activity of ours. The activity 175 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: of your world is the silence of ours. I want 176 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to read it to you because there's so much more 177 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: about how we can quiet our own minds and the 178 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: importance of that for us to tap into the spirit world. 179 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Each one of us really wants to believe that the 180 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: afterlife is real. I know we do, and then once 181 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: we do, we want to find out how we can 182 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: communicate with our loved ones. So if you want to 183 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: just fasten your seatbelt for this ride. 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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 201 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking about quieting the 202 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: mind to the entire with those in the afterlife. So 203 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: we had talked briefly about Silver Birch a being a 204 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: guide that spoke through Maurice Barbonel, and I was really 205 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: curious about the expression the silence of your world is 206 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: the activity of ours, and the activity of our world 207 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: is the silence of yours. I think I got that backwards, 208 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: but anyways, here's where it came from. And I don't 209 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: know what year this was again, I think it might 210 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: have been in the nineteen forties or so. But a 211 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: member of Parliament will say, MP, who lost his wife 212 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: a few years previously, was seen seeking evidence of her survival, 213 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: and he attended one of the sittings with Maurice Barbonell, 214 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: who Silver Birch spoke through this. MP performed much work 215 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: in connection with preventing suffering to animals. He went away 216 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: with a sense of upliftment after being urged to continue 217 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: his services. So this is what Silverbird says. In your 218 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: world of matter, there is little desire for an understanding 219 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of spiritual truths except among the few of discernment until 220 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: sorrow comes. But how can I have that discernment, asked 221 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: the guest. It's not easy, confessed the guide. You must 222 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: satisfy yourself as you have strived to do that. We 223 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: who speak to you by this and other means, are 224 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: what we claim to be. We can only prove it 225 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: by conforming to the standard of evidence that your world 226 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: of matter demands. You must seek that evidence as you 227 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: have been seeking it, and judge and way with honest criticism. 228 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: What it is has given to you. If you allow 229 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the door to be kept open, and yourself provide no 230 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: unreasoning skepticism, you make the channel easy. What I simply 231 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: crave for, the MP said, is definite knowledge that those 232 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: who have left this sphere are still living and are 233 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: in touch with one, and are endeavoring to influence one. 234 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: What must I do to acquire that knowledge? You must 235 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,479 Speaker 1: use a medium who is better than mine at receiving 236 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: all those vibrations which will bring you the wholehearted evidence 237 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: that you require. It is not your soul that demands 238 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: the knowledge, It is your mind, which is agitating in uncertainty. 239 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Then is there any means whereby I can place my 240 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: mind more in conscious touch with my soul? He asks? 241 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: That is a question of unfoldment. That is a question 242 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: of learning how to tune into the realm of spirit 243 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: so that those finer vibrations can become clearer to you. 244 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: How does one tune in? The visitor wanted to know 245 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the activity of your world is often the silence of ours, 246 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: But the silence of your world is the activity of ours, 247 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: explained silver Birch, retire into the silence and learn to 248 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: be still passive weight and the manifestation of the spirit 249 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: can reveal itself, and then he asks, is there any 250 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: means whereby I can decide whether particular thoughts that enter 251 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: my mind come from my side or yours. It's all 252 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: a matter of learning how to have control over the 253 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: mind so that it can be still and be tuned in, 254 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: so that instead of being a wanderer, it can be 255 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: placed under control by yourself, so that held in perfect silence, 256 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: it may respond to the higher vibrations. That is why 257 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: intuition comes in a flash, because our vibration is quick 258 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: and speedy and subtle. The thoughts from your world of 259 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: matter are slow, They're sluggish, and they are heavy. The 260 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: MP asks does that apply to the most exalted soul 261 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: on this plane at the moment? Yes, it applies to 262 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: every soul. Remember this, you are twofold in nature. There 263 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: is the ancestry of the animal and the portion of 264 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: the Great Spirit constantly at war within your being, and 265 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: then there is yourself, you with the free will to 266 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: accomplish your evolution. You have to subdue the long line 267 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: of animal that is part of your evolution, and you 268 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: have to learn to allow the great Spirit that is 269 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: latent to unfold itself. The Great Spirit is within every 270 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: human being, within every facet of life. For all is 271 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: the Great Spirit, and the Great Spirit is all within 272 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: some beings, the Great Spirit stirs only quietly, like the 273 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: gentle zephyr and others. The Great Spirit is like the 274 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: mighty raging wind. It is all a question of development. 275 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: The Great Spirit has stirred within your soul and touched 276 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: by sorrow. The Great Spirit within you is striving to 277 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: express itself still more. That is why you are on 278 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: your quest. That is why you will continue to search, 279 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: because your feet are now on the road that leads 280 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: to spiritual truths. I absolutely love that passage, and I 281 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: have to be honest with you. I paused the recording 282 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: because I really wanted to know when Maurice Barbanell and 283 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Silver Birch spoke, and I found out that it was 284 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: in the twenties through when Maurice Barbonell passed away. In 285 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: it is said that for over sixty years Silver Birch 286 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: spoke through him. The Spiritual Truth Foundation has all the 287 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: rights to silver Birch's books. You can find them on Amazon. 288 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: You can go to the Spiritual Truth Foundation dot CEO 289 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: dot UK. I remember taking a long drive and I 290 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: went onto YouTube and there are some questions and answers 291 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: that had been compiled from all of the Silver Birch 292 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: transcript So it's somebody else's voice speaking the questions and answers, 293 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: but the answers are so profound. I think it's important 294 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: what is said in the piece that I read to you, 295 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: that you really have to weigh everything with your healthy skepticism. 296 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: I think that's important, but also have some faith. When 297 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Scott Milligan teaches in our Monday course, he always says 298 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: to people, where's the intelligence? Look for the intelligence. There 299 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: are people that claim to be channels and channel the 300 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: Virgin Mary and all kinds of extraterrestrial beings, but again, 301 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: where's the intelligence. When you listen to a trance medium, 302 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: you have to like feel it in your gut that 303 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: this is truth. Every Friday, I'm the moderator for a 304 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: question and answer period through Scott Milligan mediumship, just like 305 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: Maurice Barbonnel with Silver Birch. Scott has some friends call 306 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: him friends in the unseen world that speak through him. 307 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: So every single Friday for the past year and a half, 308 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I have been witness to these incredible conversations and to 309 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: the skeptical mind, you'd think, well, maybe this guy's spot 310 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: is putting these voices on and maybe he's got all 311 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: this rehearsed. Well, my friends, you listen to both people 312 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: long enough and you realize that this really is the 313 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: intelligence of the unseen world. There's not a question that 314 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: won't be answered, there's no hesitation. You get goose bumps, 315 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: just goose bumps filled in your body hearing some of 316 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: these answers. And the same thing holds true with these 317 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: Silver Birch books. So I encourage you to do some 318 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: research on Silver Birch Maurice Barbannell. Go back to episode 319 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: four of Shades of the Afterlife and you can find 320 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: out more just fascinating. Another thing that I really got 321 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: out of reading that piece to you is the fact 322 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: that it is our sorrow that brings us into our 323 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: spiritual journey. Are you like me that had something happened 324 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: that really puts you on this path? So for me, 325 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: what started to crack open the eggshell was having a 326 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: fear of dying, and it got cracked wide open after 327 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: my grandmother died, my father died, and even a precious 328 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: beloved cat Millie's her name that kind of just put 329 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: me right over the edge on all of it. It 330 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: was in my investigation, uh of what's possible, what's really 331 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: out there, evidence of the afterlife? Why we have to 332 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: experience grief that put me on this journey. So I 333 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: have a sneaky suspicion that you, like me, had something happened, 334 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: someone had passed away that has put you on this journey. 335 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you this straight. The afterlife 336 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: is real. Your loved ones go on, you will see 337 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: them again, and there is a way to communicate with them. 338 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: But it takes something, it really does. I wish I 339 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: could say there's going to be a lightning bolt that 340 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: comes down and voila, there'll be a sign from your 341 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: loved one again. Our minds are much too busy. We 342 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: need to train ourselves to slow down, slow down and 343 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: feel that vibration. It might seem like new age lingo. 344 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: It might, and I'm sorry if it does. But in 345 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: that world is direct access to our loved ones. So 346 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break now, and when 347 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: I come back, I'm going to play a few words 348 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: of silver Birch so you can hear just a few 349 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: words from the actual lips of Maurice Barbonnel, but it 350 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: is his guide Silver Birch Big Jump, who is speaking 351 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: through him. 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I'm Sander Champlain, and 375 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: we are talking about silencing our minds so that the 376 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: activity of the spirit world can blend with us, so 377 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: we can feel them with us. It's not an overnight thing, 378 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: but it is something that is so worth it because 379 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: not only can we feel and sense our loved ones, 380 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: but we get divine bits of wisdom. We get in 381 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: touch with our soul, our psychic connection, and our mediumistic ability. 382 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: While we don't have a long time to go through 383 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: the how twos, I want to offer you something. If 384 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: you go to my website home base, We Don't Die 385 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: dot com, click on the store button, scroll down and 386 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: you'll see a couple of things from Scott Milligan. That's 387 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: say sitting in the power, one says unfoldment, one says 388 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: sitting in the power. Use the coupon code free f 389 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: R E, be my guest and listen and understand, and 390 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: you actually will get almost an hour guided meditation of 391 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: being with Scott. Also, there are tons of trance demonstrations 392 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: that we have recorded on the Fridays. So again, if 393 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: you'd like to just listen, be my guest, use coupon 394 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: code free f R E and you can listen to 395 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: every single one. So what I'd like to do now 396 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: is play for you some words from Silver Birch. Close 397 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: your eyes if you can, if you're not driving, and 398 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: just let yourself be inspired by these words that came 399 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: through this beautiful man, Maurice Barbonell for over sixty years. 400 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Let's listen. May the poorer of the Great White Spirit 401 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: bless you all. Put on one side any thought of trouble, difficulty, 402 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: fear or anxiety. Let us try to achieve the closest 403 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: possible harmony with one another, so that we become one 404 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: in our desire to aspire to the highest that we 405 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: can reach. And none and nothing can be higher than 406 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: the Great White Spirit, the infinite poor of divine love 407 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: and wisdom, which is responsible for the boundless universe in 408 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: which we live and in this wondrous scheme, nothing and 409 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: nobody can be overlooked, forgotten, and or neglected. We recognize too, 410 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: that we have behind us all the time the mighty 411 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: hosts of liberated beings m whose one desire is to 412 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: serve us, so that we in turn may serve others 413 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: less fortunate than we are. Let us always resolve that 414 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: we may unfold whatever gifts have been bestowed on us, 415 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: so that we could give solace to the braved, healing 416 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: to the sick, guidance to the perplexed, strength to the weary, 417 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: direction to all those who have lost their way, and 418 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: provide the radiant illumination of truth in the darkness set 419 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: in gulfs m. This is the prayer of the Indian 420 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: servant who seeks always to Sir, I am very happy 421 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: to come amongst you and to bring my love and 422 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: greeting from the world of spirit. I am aware of 423 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: the special purpose of our gathering tonight, and so I 424 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: thought it might be helpful if I would try to 425 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: explain to those who will hear these words the purpose 426 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: behind my mission, and those of my colleagues who are 427 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: animated by the same design. To the uninitiated, I would say, 428 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: I am a human being like yourselves. I have lived 429 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: much longer than any of you who are listening to 430 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: what I say, and as a result of my experiences 431 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: in realms far beyond your I have gained some knowledge 432 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: of the Great Spirit that you call good, and of 433 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: the naturals which have been devised to ensure that the 434 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: will of the Great Spirit will and must ultimately prevail. 435 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: What I have learned as a result of my experiences, 436 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: I am willing to share with those who are ready 437 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: to receive them, because I think they may be of 438 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: helpfulness to them. I am not in any way a deity. 439 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: I am still very human, capable of error, weakness, and imperfection. 440 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: I have, like every one of you, a long, long 441 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: way to go on the road two perfection. It is 442 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: an infinite one. But like others in my world, I 443 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: was asked to retrace my steps so that I could 444 00:35:53,080 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: offer some of the truth, the wisdom, the knowledge that 445 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: we have gained and share it with you. At the 446 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: same time, we would be able, with the aid of 447 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: those who cooperate with us, to make available the supreme 448 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: poor of the Spirit, which is responsible for all life, 449 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: despite its multitudinous forms. So that this book constream through 450 00:36:46,120 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: gifted individuals and serve its benign purpose. M hm m hm. 451 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: In older days, when this poor flowed, it performed certain 452 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: remarkable phenomena which many today regard as miracles. Whatever has happened, however, remarkable, stupefying, extraordinary, 453 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: or wonderful in days gone by, it was due to 454 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: the operation of natural laws. These operate not only in 455 00:37:53,840 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: the physical domain, but also why ceaselessly in the spiritual realms, 456 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: and when conditions hello, the spiritual, psychic and etheric laws 457 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: can be brought into operations to perform what we're regarded 458 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: as miracles yesterday, but today are described as psychic phenomena 459 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: produced through mediumship. That was amazing, wasn't it. If you 460 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: would like access to the full recording, to send me 461 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: an email Sandra Champlaine at gmail dot com and I 462 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: will find a way to get you the full recording. 463 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've enjoyed it. So we're going to take 464 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: a quick break now, and when we come back, we're 465 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: going to talk about talking about the afterlife to our 466 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: friends and loved ones. Do we need to be afraid 467 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: to share? What we better off keeping our mouth shut? 468 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: What should we do. We'll be back in just a moment. 469 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I 470 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Don't 471 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: go anywhere. 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Enjoy your 481 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: search and have some fun at paranormal date dot com. 482 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. 483 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: Raise your hand if you want to be free and 484 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: open with the people in your life and you want 485 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: to be able to talk to them about the afterlife. 486 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: I know you're sitting there by yourself with your hand raised, 487 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: but we all do it's fascinating to believe in the afterlife, 488 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: to look for ways to communicate with our loved ones, 489 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: and it's natural to want to share this with the 490 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: people in your life. The bottom line is we cannot 491 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: and we should not push our beliefs on other people. 492 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: Now that being said, there are some strategic ways to 493 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: be able to get into the conversation with people. So 494 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: starting out with my story, one of the core values 495 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: I have in my life is for people to not 496 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: think I'm crazy. So I've always tried to come across 497 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: as professional, as caring, as loving, as my head is 498 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: on straight. And so when I started my research into 499 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: the afterlife and realized that we go on, I wanted 500 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: to share it with people, but I felt crippled with fear, 501 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: as what would people think about me if I started 502 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: talking about this, Because I don't know if you've found this, 503 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: but I would think of these airy, fairy new Age 504 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: people that believed in angels, fairies, the afterlife, Like I 505 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: put them all in the same category crazy. I would 506 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: go to the New Age section of a bookstore and 507 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: I'd see these people there, and I think there's no 508 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: evidence of the afterlife. I actually felt sorry for people, 509 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: So for me to be on this journey, I did 510 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: not want to be in the class with those other people. 511 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: Come to find out, there is a lot more to 512 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: life than meets the eye, but we all want to 513 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: come across as fairly normal. There was a point where 514 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: I had so much evidence of the afterlife, so much 515 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: evidence about the grieving process. I knew my words had 516 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: helped people, even had prevented some suicides, and I felt 517 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: a moral responsibility to get it out there. At the time, 518 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: I worked as a chef for race car teams, which 519 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: is a business my mom and I had for almost 520 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: thirty five years. One of the race car driver's fathers 521 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: owned a printing company. To prize me, he showed up 522 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: at one of our biggest races with this giant eight 523 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: foot banner that said, is there any proof of the afterlife? 524 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain says yes. I was mortified because I hadn't 525 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: told the people in my community that I believed in 526 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: the afterlife. I was so scared what people would think 527 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: of me. I actually thought I'd lose some of my 528 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: friends and maybe some of our clients, because I would 529 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: be cast out as one of those new age weirdos 530 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. What did happen was one by one 531 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 1: people would come to find me in the kitchen and 532 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: ask me what I believed in and why I believed 533 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: in it. There was a woman who was one of 534 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: the race car drivers wives who was diagnosed with breast cancer. 535 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: There was a man who was a crew member whose 536 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: five year old son had died, and he would love 537 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: to know that his son lived on. One of the 538 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: security guards at the Daytona Speedway had a heart attack, 539 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: had a near death experience, and saw his mother, who 540 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: had long been deceased, as young and healthy and as 541 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: clear as ever. One of the crew members said, when 542 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: he works on race cars, or he's just working around 543 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: the shop, out of the corner of his eye, his 544 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: dad will be there, or a deceased friend, or a 545 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: deceased dog that he had when he was young. Another 546 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: race car driver never believed in the afterlife, but he 547 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: had a random stranger who claimed she was a medium 548 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: and had a message from his father that was desperate 549 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: to go to him. The medium told him, in your fireplace, 550 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: there is a brick that is loose. If you go behind, 551 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: pull out that brick. There's some gold coins. This race 552 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: car driver did that and behind the brick were the 553 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: gold coins. Another race car driver was in a coma, 554 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: saw his mom and dad and brother praying by his bedside. 555 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: At the same time, he's greeted by his grandmother grandfather 556 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: who are dead, and sees them healthy, whole and well. 557 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: He came back to earth. He didn't have a fear 558 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: of dying, so he didn't have a fear of living, 559 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 1: so he started winning bunches of championships in automobile racing. 560 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: So my biggest fear actually turned into something that gave 561 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: me courage to share. I unfortunately now thought I had 562 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: so much power and so much courage I could share 563 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: with anyone. But not true. There are some people who 564 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: are not there in their spiritual progression that they don't 565 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: want to listen. It really is something where people need 566 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: to want to know themselves. It's not just with the afterlife, 567 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: it's really with anything. If people don't care about the subject, 568 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: they're not going to listen to you. They might smile 569 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: and oh, that's good for you, and we're glad you 570 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: enjoy that, but they're not going to take it on 571 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: board themselves, not until they start questioning their own life, 572 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: their own mortality. Perhaps they have a loved one die 573 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: or they get diagnosed with an illness. That's when these 574 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: big questions come in. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't 575 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: be free to share who you are and what you love. 576 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: You need to go on your own journey, have experiences, 577 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: have signs, feel for yourself, even just the teeniest bit 578 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: of hope and evidence that this is real. To have 579 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: a backbone in it. You're probably trained in something in 580 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: your life that you know better than most people, and 581 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: there's not a person on this planet that can tell 582 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: you you don't know what you're talking about, the same 583 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: thing holds true about the afterlife. Me, for example, twenty 584 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: five years of researching this having some of the most 585 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: jaw dropping experiences ever, there's not a single soul that 586 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: can tell me it's a figment of my imagination, or 587 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: these people are con artists. No way, it's real. My 588 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: advice to you would be this, I've heard this great expression. 589 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: The best place to stand in an argument is on 590 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: the other person's side. That was actually on a fortune cookie, 591 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: which means try to see life from the other person's perspective. 592 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: They may not be interested in what you have to say, 593 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: about the afterlife. But you can stand your ground. Never ever, 594 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: ever force the conversation on someone. Could you imagine going 595 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: on an airplane, In fact, you've probably have been, and 596 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: you sit down next to someone and they look nice enough, 597 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: and you strike up a conversation. Wonderful. Well, there's also 598 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: times where you don't want to talk, and that other 599 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: person sitting next to you, that's all they want to 600 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: do is talk. When I wrote my book We Don't Die, 601 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: a skeptics Discovery of Life after Death, I strategically gave 602 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: it that subtitle because I want people that are skeptics 603 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: to feel okay that they can read it and investigate 604 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: the afterlife, believe it or not. Years ago, people used 605 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: to think the Earth was flat, and people were ridiculed 606 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: that said anything else. In fact, Galileo was put under 607 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: house arrest because of his belief. Well, it was true. 608 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: The earth is round. It is true. Life after death 609 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 1: is real. So it takes some patience. It takes having 610 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: a backbone, It takes seeing life from other people's perspective. 611 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: But there are ways to just be yourself, be normal, 612 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: don't hide it. You can ask, like I said about 613 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: my mom in the beginning, I've got something really great 614 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: to share. I just witnessed this unbelievable medium demonstration. Can 615 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,439 Speaker 1: I tell you about it? Well, you know, I don't 616 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: really believe in that, but if you want to share, Okay. 617 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: Another thing you can do, which I learned from somebody 618 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: on an airplane as a matter of fact, is asking 619 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: people about their lives. Ask them what they love in 620 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: their life, ask them what their difficulties are. And in that, 621 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: when people are able to express who they are, their wants, 622 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: their desires, their fears, and you actually listen, they trust you. 623 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: They trust your opinion. I've had the opportunity many times 624 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: and on airplanes to sit next to somebody and they ask, well, 625 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: where are you going? Is it business or pleasure? What 626 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: do you do for work? Well? I used to tell 627 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: them I'm a chef for race car teams, and then 628 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: that little voice inside my head would say tell him 629 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: the rest Sandra, and I would say, and I'm also 630 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: an author. The natural question is what did you right? 631 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: And in my bag on every flight I take, I 632 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: have a copy of my book We Don't Die. I 633 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: pull it out and I say this. At that point 634 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to say, oh, that's nice and 635 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: go back to reading their newspaper, or they can say 636 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: can I have a look at that. I believe a 637 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: bit in divine intervention and synchronicities, and I have sat 638 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: next to people that are just coming from a loved 639 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: one's funeral, have been diagnosed with an illness, are suffering 640 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: deep grief, or have a tremendous fear of dying. All 641 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: I want to say is, have a backbone for your beliefs. 642 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,479 Speaker 1: Meet people where they are, try to see life from 643 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 1: their perspective. There's not a single person that wants to 644 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: be conned or taken advantage of. Each one of us 645 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: has had times that people have done that to us. 646 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: Our loved ones don't want us to fall for something 647 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: that isn't true. Maybe they want to protect us. Stand 648 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: your ground, don't be pushy, keep being you, keep being open. 649 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: Ask them, oh my gosh, can I share something with you? 650 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: And when they say yes, you share. Never be pushy. 651 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: I want to remind you that our home base is 652 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: we Don't Die dot com and from there, between this 653 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: show and my other show, We Don't Die Radio, there 654 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: is over four hundred hours of episodes about the afterlife. 655 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: You can get a free copy of my book if 656 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: you sign up for my email list. It says just 657 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: a few chapters, but it's the whole book and there's 658 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: so much more. Join us for a class on psychic mediumship. 659 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: Join me on our Monday classes with Scott or our 660 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: Friday demonstrations, especially our Sunday gathering, free inspirational and a 661 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: medium demonstration. In each and everyone, I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank 662 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 663 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 664 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: And if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 665 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for 666 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 667 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast Network.