WEBVTT - 018 Rich on Tech Radio Show - May 6, 2023 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.360 Everything old is new again. At Airbnb, Apple and Google 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.360 team up to make air tags less stalky. Is that 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.159 a word? I don't know, but we're going with it. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.639 And how to download your entire Netflix history if you 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.880 dare plus your tech questions answered? What's going on? I'm 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.520 Rich Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.640 where I talk about the tech stuff I think you 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.560 should know about. It's also the place where I answer 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:33.080 your questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.920 Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. Show 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.800 number eighteen. Phone lines are open at Triple eight Rich 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.120 one oh one. 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So in case you can't 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.040 remember the phone number right now there it is. So 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.680 this week I got to tell you a story because 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.680 this was kind of funny. This happened to me yesterday. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.119 And I'm a big fan of that show, Curb Your Enthusiasm, 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.440 Like I just watched like every one of those episodes, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.800 and just that sense of humor, and if you've watched it, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.079 it's a it's a very particular sense of humor. That's 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.720 my sense of humor. Larry David always getting into trouble 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.520 and you know, he's the guy behind Seinfeld, and so 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.000 it's a very specific type of humor where it's just 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.120 kind of a observation on life and the little weird, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.280 funny things that happen to you sometimes and a lot 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.760 of times, you know, these things happen and it's kind 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.720 of like just you and you're just you and your 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.880 brain kind of going over them. And so I was 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.520 at the grocery store yesterday, and of course I'm at 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.960 the high tech grocery store. I'm at the Amazon Fresh, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:12.440 which is a grocery store that is fully automated. So 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.960 you walk in and there's a bunch of cameras on 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.320 the ceiling and they all figure out what you take, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.680 and then you just walk right out with the stuff 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.240 that you want and it charges your card. It's all 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.960 pretty high tech. It's pretty amazing. Who knows how long 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.360 it'll be around. I know that Amazon has a history 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.480 of starting things and then just getting rid of them, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.600 but I'm loving it while it's here because it's literally 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.880 the fastest way that you can go into the grocery store, 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.720 grab what you need, and get out. The only thing 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.320 I don't like is you never know how much you're 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.640 spending until you get the receipt about an hour later. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.360 It's not instance. You don't have any sort of like 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.120 running total of what you're getting. That's the only downside. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.120 You know, if you ever at the cashier and you're like, oh, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.200 I just spent a lot, maybe i'll put that back. Yahble, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.120 I'll put that carton of eggs back. I don't know 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.240 if that would save you bunch. But anyway, so I'm 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.240 in the store, and we've used this store a bunch 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.000 of times, so I knew that one time. You always 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.240 have to check to see your receipt, and they send 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.640 you an automated receipt that says, here's all the items 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.960 that you picked up, and here's how much we're charging 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.360 you for them, and ninety nine percent of the time. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.880 I will tell you, I am quite impressed with this technology. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.000 They somehow figure out when you pick up a stick 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.120 of butter, the exact brand and how many you took. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.360 Even if you take this thing off the shelf, look 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.360 at it and put it back, somehow the computers figure 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.680 that out. Now, when I talk to the people at Amazon, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.120 they said that it's obviously there's some secret sauce going 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:38.279 on there, but you are almost like a human cart, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.039 like if you were shopping online adding things to a cart. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.919 You are the car. So when you go into that store, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.599 even if you go in with your two kids, you 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.440 all become the same car. And so if they pick 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.800 something off off the shelves, it will register that to you. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.200 So it's it's pretty impressive what they've done. Anyway, I 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.640 tell you this because if there's ever something that's a mistake, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.400 you can just go in on your phone and say 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.480 I didn't grab that item, and they will just credit you. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.120 They'll give you a refund for that item. Well, one time, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.960 you know, you always go through your receipt. My wife 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.520 went in and I said, hey, did you buy this? 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:08.880 And it was kind of an odd item that we 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.960 don't usually purchase. She goes, no, I actually took that 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.599 off the shelf for someone else, and I said, wait what? 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.560 And so she took it off the shelf that was 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.200 up high and handed it to someone and we got 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.560 charged for it because once it goes in your hand, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.400 it is linked to you the basket, even if you 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.640 hand it to another person. I asked Amazon about that 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.960 and they were like, huh, yeah, I guess that would happen. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:32.920 So I don't know if they fixed this problem. But 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.240 yesterday I'm in the store and this kind old woman says, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.400 excuse me, can you reach up to that shelf and 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.960 grab that salsa down for me? And I feel so 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.719 bad even saying this, but I said, oh, ma'am, I'm sorry, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.000 but I can't because I will get charged for that item. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.880 And she looked at me like I was like I 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.880 was an alien, and she just like was like not 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.159 understanding what I was saying. I was like, I'm so sorry, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.400 but like the way this store works, it's high tech. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.080 If I grab that item and hand it to you, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.840 I will pay for it. And she just didn't get it, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.640 and so I felt so bad and I probably, yes, 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.240 I probably, looking back, could have eat the cost of 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.360 the three dollars saucea that I was going to pull 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.599 down from the shelf for her. But it was the 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.400 principle of the technology. And so I'm sitting there and 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.600 I'm like, this is such a Larry David moment. This 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.799 is such a curb your enthusiasm moment where this woman 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.240 I hope she doesn't recognize me from TV because she 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.040 will have a story to tell forever that this friendly 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.440 TV guy would not grab the thing off the shelf. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.680 So what I did. I actually went over to an 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.560 Amazon associate and I said, excuse me, can you please 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.640 grab this thing off the shelf for her? Because if 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.120 I do it, I know I'm going to get charged. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.160 If you do it, I don't know what's going to happen, 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.719 but it's better you than me. So moral of the 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.400 story is, I hope Amazon fixes this technology, but it 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.120 is the loophole in You know, my wife and I 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.400 were discussing this later as we laughed about it that 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.400 if you ever want something for free, just ask someone 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.080 else to grab it for you that doesn't know. So 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.400 if you're in an Amazon store, Amazon Fresh, that's automated 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.800 and someone asks you, hey, can you grab that off 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.200 the shell for me? Don't fall for the trap because 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.840 I don't know if I was getting scammed or not. No, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.960 I'm just kidding. I wasn't getting scammed. But oh man, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.640 so I'm sorry. This is my formal this is my 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.240 formal apology to you, ma'am that I did not mean 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.320 to not take the thing off the shelf. But you know, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.000 this technology is still evolving. And I love the Amazon Store, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.000 but they need to figure that out because I will 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.440 gladly take things off the shelf for people at any 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.680 other store, just not the Amazon Fresh. Okay, I had 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.840 to get that off my chest. Let's see what else 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:42.200 this week. Couple of things. So, I saw the return 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.640 of the Jedi movie, which is back in theaters. And 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.600 I'm not one of these big like Star Wars folks. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:48.960 Like I know. I've got a lot of friends. I 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.480 live in Los Angeles, I went to USC. There's a 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.400 lot of Star Wars folks among me, right among my 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.560 friend group. I'm not one of them, but I love 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.760 the movies and I've seen them. But after watching this 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.160 movie in the theater, I realize that I know nothing 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.200 about Star Wars like I must have watched these things 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.040 when I was a kid and forgot everything, and I'm 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.800 back in So I saw Return of the Jedi they're 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.520 currently doing like it on the big screen, because it 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.160 was the whole like May the Fourth be with you 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.960 the fortieth anniversary. And I just subscribe to that AMC thing, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.880 that a list where you get to see as many 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.160 movies as you want. So I'm trying to get my 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.520 money's worth for the twenty five bucks a month. I'm 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.000 now paying to see movies that I don't see. And 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.600 so I'm like, all right, fine, I've got a free 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.319 Wednesday afternoon, let me go to the movies. So I go. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.480 I felt guilty it was after work, but you know, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.400 I'm going by myself whatever, and I go to the 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.680 movie theater and it was great. I had such a 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.240 great experience. It was so relaxing. But now that I 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.040 saw this Return of the Jedi, which is out of 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.040 order because that's like the third movie, I want to 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.800 see them. Well, I know the Star Wars folks will 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.800 tell me that was like the sixth movie, but really, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.520 to me, growing up with the original Star Wars, that's 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.320 the third movie. So now I want to see the 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.080 first twobe I'm like, should I wait for them to 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.440 be in the theater? But I got to say number one, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.280 the movie totally held up like it was such a 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.960 fantastic ride from start to finish. It looks so good 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.120 on the big screen. I gotta say it was just fantastic. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.520 Couple other little things. Number one movies by yourself. I 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.000 didn't know what to think of that because it's not 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.320 something I typically do, And so I pulled folks on 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.960 my Instagram and I said, would you go to a 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.319 movie by yourself? And about seventy five percent of you said, absolutely, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.000 no problem. I love going to movies by myself. Or 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.200 I would go to a movie by myself. Twenty five 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.040 percent of you said no, I would not do that, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.520 and a lot of you dm me to say that 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.520 your husbands do it, but you don't. So maybe there's 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.280 sort of like a divide there between men and women 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.600 with the whole going to the movies by yourself. For 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.360 the record, there's only about four of us in the 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.680 movie theater, by the way, which was awesome because it 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.640 felt like a private movie showing. The other thing is 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.040 that AMC now accepts tap to pay, So round of 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:00.640 applause for AMC theaters finally getting with the you know, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.960 the year twenty twenty three or I should say, like, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.400 I don't know when did I cover a tap to pay? 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.760 Probably like five, six, seven years ago. So anyway, I'm 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.120 glad they're finally on board because it just makes life 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.959 a lot easier. So I was able to do that, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.319 So if you haven't been to an AMC, they do that. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.320 And the other thing that people didn't know about because 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.040 I posted this to the Instagram at rich On Tech 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.640 as well, is there's a little secret movie bundle you 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.760 can get with a drink and a soda for five 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:33.319 bucks and it's called like the Cameo Combo, and it's 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.400 only for folks that are part of the AMC like rewards. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.120 You don't have to pay for it, you just like 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.440 maybe you do, I don't know, but if you're part 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.480 of like the A list or the stubs whatever, you 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.000 can ask for this. And it took the guy a 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.320 little bit to like it was almost like a secret 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.840 society thing where I'm like, do you do the cameo combo? 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.800 He's like, what's that? I'm like, oh, you know, like 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.160 the small drink the small popcorn. He's like, yeah, I 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:55.920 think we can do that. And it was like this 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.800 weird thing where it was like a secret thing where 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.120 I don't know. So anyway, if you're going to the movies, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.760 you go solo, cameo, combo. You'll see me there by 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.760 the way, say hi, because I am now going to 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.960 the movies as much as humanly possible. I liken it 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.439 to going to the gym, except for the mind. It's relaxing, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.000 it's therapeutic, it's nice, and I don't care what setup 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.520 you have at home, it does not beat the actual 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.880 movie theater setup and that movie theater experience. So that 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.480 was a lot of fun. All right, what's coming up 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.120 on the show today? Where are my notes for what's 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.880 coming up on the show. We've got so much. Number One, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.800 we've got let's see, I had this all written down 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.120 and now, of course I can't find it. Coming up 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.959 on the show, We've got a couple of great guests. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.360 We're gonna talk to the CEO of Farmers Fridge. So 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.480 Farmers Fridge is in the airports. They do this refrigerator 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.680 that has refrigerated salads that are healthy and fresh. So 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.760 that's gonna be awesome. We're also gonna go to the Actxpo. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.560 This is where all of the future of clean fleet 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.800 transportation is on display. It's so cool. I'm gonna take 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.800 you there. Plus later in the show, so we're gonna 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.440 talk to the founders of one of my favorite gadgets, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.520 the Aura Frame. This is a great gift for Mother's Day. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.320 So if you're thinking of trying to find something for 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.199 that person that's tough to find a gift for, uh, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.400 you'd want to stay tuned for that. And of course, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.559 phone lines are open at Triple eight Rich one O 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.400 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.680 zero one. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Coming up 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.360 your calls. Plus, I'm gonna tell you why AI is 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.720 becoming a problem not only in Hollywood but pretty much everywhere. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:40.920 You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.600 on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.480 technology at Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.319 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.640 me a call if you have a question about technology. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.000 I'm gonna be talking about the topics of the week 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.680 in the tech world that I think you should know 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:03.320 about and uh websites. Rich on tech dot TV, Robert 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.680 kicks off this show in Mira, Mesa, California. Robert, you're 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.320 on with Rich. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:12.560 Hi, Rich, thank you for taking my call. I have 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:18.680 an uncle that I'm researching for. My uncle became blind 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:19.840 in both eyes. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.079 Oh, sorry to hear that, really blind. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:27.120 And so what we were looking for my uncle was 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:35.520 something that would scan a page, okay, and would read 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:41.680 the print text on that page. I've investigated. I don't 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.000 have a computer, so I usually have to go to 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:50.960 the library or use a friend's computer. I've investigate. Actually 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:56.400 ordered OrCam from Israel, but it had a lot of 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.000 flaws and it really didn't work out for my own Plus, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.040 the battery would run low after about ten minutes. And 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:11.080 then National Federation of the Blind developed an application that 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.880 you could load onto an iPad or a smartphone. Sure, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.040 but they no longer support the application. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.160 Okay, So you're wanting an app that can read something 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.920 off of a printed page. Is that what I'm understanding? 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:27.600 Yes? 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.400 Or do you want to throw a document there? 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.000 And I mean he has a huge library of books, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.280 but unfortunately practically all the books they're not available in 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.080 audio books are audio streaming, and he would like to 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.680 be able to read those books understandable. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.760 How's he doing with this change in his life. It's 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.160 a major change, isn't it. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.640 It's a major change. And the thing is is that 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.520 he wants to be able to read again, or have 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.640 a device read for him. Wondering if you've seen anything 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.200 or you know, could suggest anything or perhaps point me 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.760 in a direction to research. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.080 Sure, yeah, okay, So and this is your uncle, you said, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.040 So they have a smartphone, they have iPhone, Android. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.280 We can get him he doesn't have a smartphone, we 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.560 can get him a smartphone or an Android, you know, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.360 or an iPad or you know, tablet whatever, something that 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.880 would take a scan of the page. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.040 And then yeah, sure, okay, Well let me give you 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.240 a couple options. So I think the number one thing 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.520 is I would go with an iPhone because iPhone not 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.680 only has some built in really really good built in 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.240 accessibility features, so does Android, but I think iPhone really 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.760 puts a lot of effort into these features. And yeah, yeah, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.760 so I would go with the iPhone. And I don't 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.160 know if you need an iPad? Is there any level 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.360 of visual can he see anything anymore? 0:15:58.480 --> 0:15:59.960 Or no? 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.760 Okay? So then I don't really see the point of 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.720 an iPad, because yeah, I mean the point of an iPad. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.120 It's like, it's such a big screen. Is there really 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.840 a point to that if you can't see. So I 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.120 wouldn't use that. I would just get a standard iPhone 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.560 just kind of look and see what they've got, maybe 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.280 an older model. You probably don't need one with the 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.320 best camera, but a couple things. So there's a website 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.520 called voice Dream, and so they seem to make a 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.840 very popular app that does exactly what you're talking about. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.720 And it's a scanner app. Now I can tell it's 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.960 a good one because they charge ten bucks right off 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.280 the bat. So there's not even a free version of 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.000 that app. So that's called voice Dream Scanner, and it's 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.080 exactly what you're saying. You scan the page and it 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.240 will read it back to you. Now, they also have 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.120 a free version of that, which is a voice Dream 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.800 app as well. So there's a free version, but that's 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.920 one where you have to feed a page into it. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.160 So that's for something that you've already had that is scanned. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.800 And by the way, the iPhone has a scanner functionality 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.920 on it. If you go into the files app you 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.840 can actually scan documents. So if you want kind of 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.000 a free workaround, you can get the free app from 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.719 voice Stream and then you can just combine that with 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.480 the scanner or the free app and scan the stuff 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:19.439 in the other one is natural Reader Naturalreaders dot Com. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.520 They have a free app that is very very popular, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.440 and that one can read any text that's on that app, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.280 so you can copy and paste, or you can use 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.679 something like a PDF or a document to put that 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.480 in there as well. And then the other thing is 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:38.200 called read Speaker. I don't have much experience with that one, 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.879 but that's a text to speech that's more of a 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.200 voice solution, So I don't think that that's going to 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.639 be exactly what you need, but it's something to investigate. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.919 But those two things, so look up voice Stream and 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.800 also naturalreaders dot com. I think you're going to find 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.280 the solution you need. And thanks for calling in today, Robert, 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:57.359 appreciate it all. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:57.640 Right. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:17:59.880 Coming up next, we're going to go to the ace 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:04.919 etxpo and learn about clean fleet transportation. You're listening to 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:10.480 rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Recently 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.400 I headed to Anaheim for the actxpo, a trade show 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.520 focused on how commercial industries are trying to go green. First, 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.200 I spoke with Eric Neandros, who's in charge of. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:26.280 The Expo ACTXPO is where the commercial transportation industry comes 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.200 together to see and learn about all the latest technologies 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.520 and clean fuels to run their business. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.919 What kind of progress are we seeing in this space. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.280 Well, we've seen pretty amazing progress in the last couple 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.640 of years. The industry has continue to grow. There's three things. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.840 One, the manufacturers are investing billions of dollars to make 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:47.520 this product. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.879 They obviously want to now sell it to return that money. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.240 To regulations, State of California is sort of leading the 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.240 charge and saying everyone must get to zero missions, and 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.359 there are much more strict regulations coming every single day. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.160 And then three of the companies that run these trucks 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.600 these fleets are trying to be more sustainable on it, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.880 and many of the big leaders have set goals they 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.920 want their operations to be zero missions by twenty forty 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.840 or so. So there's an alignment there between the buyers 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.040 and the sellers. They want to buy the product, the 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.040 seller obviously wants to sell it, and they're making it 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.600 and that's what really is making this pretty exciting right now. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.800 There are a few options. Battery electric is definitely one 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.920 of the big ones. There's a big push on hydrogen 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.240 fuel cell vehicles, which we see in both passenger and 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:32.240 the commercial sector. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:34.120 And then we have all kinds of. 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.360 Other biofuels that have pretty low carbon that we. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.439 Can use in combustion engines today. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.880 So it's all in play right now. But we're all 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.399 trying to figure out how do we get to zero. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.119 And what's the biggest challenge you're seeing. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.760 There's a couple of big challenges. One, this stuff costs 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:50.240 a lot of money. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.280 It's expensive, and so as a business goes out to 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.360 make an investment, we have to figure out how does 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.520 this make business sense right, how do we make it 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.680 economically sustainable in addition to environmentally sustainable. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:01.200 And then on the. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.120 Electrification side, infrastructure is a big challenge. It's a lot 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.080 of electricity to charge, particularly these big trucks, and that 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.360 electricity is not necessarily available on every corner, so there's 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:12.480 a lot of work that has to be done on 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.760 the utility side to be able to provide the electricity 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:15.720 to make all this work. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:20.080 Marcy Willard is with lightning emotors. They're partnering with AMR 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.080 to show off an electric ambulance. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.080 So we have our Class three ambulance in partnership with AMR. 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.960 It's one of the first electric ambulances in the entire world. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.280 And this is a Class three size has a range 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.320 of about one hundred and forty to one hundred and 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:34.040 sixty miles. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.000 What's the benefit of an electric ambulance. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.560 Well, firstly at zero emission, so we're talking air pollution, 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.159 we're talking climate change, but we're also talking about the 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.399 health of people in and around the vehicle. And so 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.919 if you can imagine you're already dealing with health issues 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.840 with an ambulance, this gets rid of the diesel and 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.600 the gas emissions and makes it just a much more 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.320 holistic solution to all of those issues. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.520 Are any cities using this so far? 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.400 We do have several operating in California in different districts, 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.080 and we actually featured one at the World Cup and 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.520 Cutter last fall for the soccer so we were really 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.160 excited to be featured there as well. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.600 If you could name the truck, there was a green 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:17.000 version on display school buses, delivery trucks, utility trucks and 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:21.160 even concrete mixing trucks. But these fleets need to be charged, 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.440 which is where enviro charge comes in. Here's Michelle Brown. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.359 We have the ev power pod. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.960 It is an off grid DCFC, so a direct current 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.840 fast charger for fleets, utilities and municipalities. 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.080 Where the grid is. 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.600 Challenged to keep up with the charging infrastructure. For these fleets. 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.880 We have a solution that's powered by renewable propane. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.040 So all these trucks need to be charged, and they're 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:49.160 like heavy duty. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.720 Charging, yes, absolutely, and they need a fast charge, so 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.160 they need a direct current. You can do level two, 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.879 which is kind of charging overnight in the yard, but 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.240 a lot of these trucks, especially going in and out 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.760 of the ports, they need to charge sometime during the 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:05.679 day and they can't sit for hours and wait for 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:06.320 a charge. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.520 And so your solution is what, how's it work. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.399 It's a we're fuel agnostics, so we can use pretty 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.359 much renewal propane, natural gas, any sort of fuel. And 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.160 we're also charge agnostics, so we can use any type 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.680 of charger that the customer prefers for. 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.640 Us to use. And the idea is you can put 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:25.280 this anywhere. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:30.080 Absolutely it's completely grid free mobile and wherever you need 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:34.280 a charge, even if you're waiting for your infrastructure, you 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.600 can use this solution until your infrastructure is in place, 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:39.880 and then we can move it to the next yard, 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:41.560 next customer, next location. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.640 Fermata Energy is working on a way to help ev 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.280 owners make money off of their vehicles by selling back 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:52.880 energy to the grid during peak times. George Miller explains. 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.800 So here we are a bi directional charging company. We 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.080 do vehicle to grid services, and we have a bidirectional 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.760 charger here. We have been charging on the Nissan Leaf 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.240 with for the last three years. On a Nissan Leaf 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:09.200 we can make between twenty five hundred up to about 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.639 eight thousand dollars per year using just the battery when 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.040 you're not using it as a car. So that is 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.200 called vehicle to grid services, capable on this vehicle now 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.680 and capable on many more vehicles coming soon. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.159 Okay, so hold on explain that in layman's terms, what 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.679 does that mean? If my car's parked, it's making money 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:26.280 for who. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.080 It makes money for you. So your car is parked 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.760 and the utility says, hey, we need energy at this 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.480 specific time, this two hour window in the afternoon in 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.000 the summertime, if you can push power out into the 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.600 grid because you're not using your vehicle at that time. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.040 They'll give you a check at the end of the 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.879 summer as a part of a demand response program, and 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.800 then you can recharge your vehicle and it actually runs 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.800 the meter backwards, so you're not even paying for that 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.200 electricity twice. 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:53.919 So do you think we're going to see more people 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.119 making money off of their evs in the future. 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:57.560 Absolutely. Yeah. 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.800 It's been a concept thought about for the last twenty 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.240 years since the original GM EV one. It's taken a 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.560 long time to get automakers, utilities at charger makers, and 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.639 vehicle owners to all come together, and we're now just 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.080 getting chargers that are certified. We should have a residential 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.600 solution here in probably two to three months for chargers. 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.320 So right now it's been commercial, but we should have 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.160 a residential offering later this year. 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:25.879 And how much can I make with my car? 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.199 You can make between two to eight thousand dollars, It's 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.080 entirely dependent upon where you live and what the utility 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.640 has enabled. Actually, in San Diego you can make twelve 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.000 thousand a year. Michael Marsal is president of excel lifts. 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.080 So you've been doing electric forklifts for how many years? 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.639 Five years now, that's when the development started. 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.760 What have you learned in those five years. 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.359 Well, we have learned that the infrastructure has been the 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.879 toughest thing for the ports and shipyards. Getting the energy 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.440 manufacturer and the forkliffs have actually. 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:55.320 Been the easy things to do. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.600 It's getting the ports in state of California to support 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.640 the electric infrastructure for charging the big equipment. 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:03.440 And so how do you solve that. 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.639 We're working with all the local air resource districts to 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.000 help get more funding to help subsidize the cost for 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:10.840 our customers. 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.160 And so what's the benefit of the electric forklift? 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.200 Basically, it helps our climate. 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.359 You know, we get rid of all the toxins that 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.080 you see in all the ports and shipyards in California. 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.240 So we're moving towards the twenty thirty mandate by the 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.840 state of California to have all the ports and shipyards 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:28.080 zero mission. 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.240 And what about other states? 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.720 We're the other states. There's a few of them that 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.680 are starting to go that way. For instance, like Michigan 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.240 is actually starting to go that way. Oregon and Washington 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.320 are starting to lean that way. Because you typically the 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.800 other states follow California's. Whatever California does, it rolls out there. 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.080 Eventually Florida is also looking at doing it, and actually 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.760 Texas is doing it as well. They bought product from 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:53.359 US as well. 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.119 Finally I got inside the Nicola fuel sell EV truck 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.760 with engineer Ash Mackie. Keep in mind driving down the 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.320 road while we recorded this interview, Notice how quiet it is. 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.080 So right now you are in one of our beta 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.560 builds for the fuel cell EV truck, which is of 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.800 course we're coming in production in Q four of twenty 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:15.440 twenty three. 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.280 What's the benefit of hydrogen fuel cell? 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.679 We see hydrogen as the future when it comes to 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.960 the zero emission. There is abundant of hydrogen. 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:26.600 I mean, it's the. 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.800 Most available. 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.080 Source of energy there is, so and then detail pipe 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.679 at the end it comes out of the zero mission 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.960 is really water. It's going to be as close to 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.080 parity to diesel when it comes to range. So with 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.720 our truck here, we're looking at coming off the gate 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:45.879 with five hundred miles. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.600 But does it take a long time to refuel like electric? 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.760 Oh no, absolutely, that's one of the differentiators. So we 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.520 are looking to refuel this truck. We have seventy kilogram 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.600 capacity in our trucks in less than twenty minutes. 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.760 Is there safety concern with hydrogen? Oh, there is not 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:01.200 at all. 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.639 Not when it comes to the commercialization and how we 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.639 put it into the truck. We do crash testing for 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:12.639 the side saddle tanks. We do rollovers, and then the 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.000 tanks themselves. They go through penetration with bullets to see 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.920 exactly how much we could really damage the tanks if 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.919 we can even heat, they have to stand almost one 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:26.520 thousand c for two hours, and then there's venting systems. 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.080 The minute the system. 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:33.280 React to a crash, there's valves that would immediately dissipate 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.800 all the hydrogen, so there's no any change of inflammables 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:37.879 to happen to the truck. 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.800 If you want to see my video from ACT Expo, 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.640 just go to rich on Tech dot tv more rich 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:52.320 on Tech coming up. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:56.080 Rich Tomuro here talking technology with you at Triple A 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.359 rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.960 two for one zero one. By the way, you just 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.359 heard about the Clean Truck Expo. If you want to 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.600 see a little video of just how quiet those trucks 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.120 are in real life. Go to my Instagram at rich 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.680 on Tech. I posted a reels last night and it's 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.680 it's pretty wild just how quiet these trucks are because 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.040 you're so You're so used to these big diesel trucks 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.960 being loud. So if you want to hear what they're 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.320 trying to do for the future, you can see see 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.760 that there and hear it. Colleen writes in I listened 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.080 to you on KFI and watch you on KTLA. Colleen 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:36.560 in Tampa, Thank you. Colleen. Janet writes in, Hey, rich 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.640 someone hacked my account, my Facebook account and used my 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.400 photo and my account to sell tickets. I contacted Facebook online. 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.960 I'm getting blocked from getting into my account. I tried 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.240 a phone number, but the response was not answering calls 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.440 at this time. Do I write a letter to Mark Zuckerberg? 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.840 Thank you, Janet Janet. I don't think Mark is replying 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:59.320 to letters right now due to accounts being hacked. So 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.720 I think the place to go is Facebook dot com 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.880 slash hacked. As far as I know, there is not 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.880 a phone number that you can contact Facebook at to 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.600 get help with that. The best thing that I know 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.640 of is to go to Facebook dot com slash hacked. 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.480 You follow the instructions there. I know it's tedious, it's 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.160 time consuming, it's annoying, but that is the best way 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:25.600 to get a hacked Facebook account back. And by the way, 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.240 if you don't want your Facebook account hacked, set up 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.840 two factor authentication. That is the best way to do it. 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.920 Every single person I talk to that gets their Facebook 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.800 account hacked is in one of several ways. Number one, 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.960 they log in to a phishing email that says, hey, 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.040 log into this page and it's through their Facebook account, 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.360 and they just gave away their account information, or they 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.960 don't have two factor authentication on and they don't get 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.040 that secondary code, and once the hackers get in, it's 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.040 a pain to get your account back. Let's go to 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.760 Jim in Punta Gordo, Florida. Jim, you're on with Rich. 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:06.400 Yeah, Hey, Rich, congratulations, I'm taking over the chair. 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.120 Thank you. It's a different chair, but I did take over. 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.120 So we got from the chair Leo. 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:13.480 Leo keeps his chair. 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:15.800 Yeah, I live on and prosperous. 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:16.640 I say thanks. 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840 I've got a couple of questions. One of a simple questions. 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.920 The other one gets a little more complicated. The simple one. 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.080 It drives me crazy. It's I go into Google and 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:33.520 I search, let's say rich on Tech, and I again 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.360 a woman's voice that says, you know, rich on Tech 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.560 is on the afternoon Saturday, Sunday, and I can't find 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.480 anywhere to shut her off. I've looked and looked. 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.240 And look, is this on a phone or on your 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.560 computer on that iPhone? Okay, on your iPhone? Okay, that 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.800 sounds like that is an accessibility feature. It's reading. Now 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.920 are you well, are you using the app? What are 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:57.760 you using to search? 0:30:58.600 --> 0:30:58.800 Well? 0:30:58.920 --> 0:30:59.720 Just Google? 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.120 So Google app? Yeah, because there's different ways of searching 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.840 on your phone, so on your Google app. It's interesting 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.080 that it's it's okay, So there's a setting on your 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.520 Google app. If you go and tap your profile on 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.040 the upper right hand corner, it says read aloud and 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.920 so turn that off and that should take care of that. 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.600 Well, okay, I've been looking everywhere that I do not 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.880 look for. Okay, the Google app is just going to 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:29.640 settings and. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.080 Okay, yeah, there's two settings. There's a read aloud setting 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.520 and then if you go into your Voice and Assistant settings, 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.920 there's a setting that says spoken results, and mine is 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.520 toggled on. It says results will be read aloud to you, 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:45.160 so you can turn that off as well. So yeah, 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:49.000 well this is what I do, Jim. Okay, all right, 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.959 thanks for the question, and thanks for listening down in Florida. 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.960 There phone lines are open at triple eight rich one 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.920 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.040 four to one zero one. I just wanted to mention 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.840 quickly this whole AI thing. I mean, this entire show 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.240 could be about AI. Well, actually, I don't think I've 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.840 tied to mention AI, so let's not do that. Let's 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.840 come back after the break and talk about AI. In Hollywood. 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.400 We've got a big strike going on here and AI 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.200 is a part of it, so we'll talk about that. 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:26.280 You're listening to rich on tech rich damiro here rich 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.720 on tech Ah a new remake of such a good song. 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:35.320 This is by Rita Aura, such a good song. That gosh, 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.640 when did that original come out? Fat Boy Slam Praise you. 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.560 There's a great music video two thousand and seven. Oh 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.080 my gosh, wow, that was a while ago. Okay, So 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.320 most of the people listening to that song, or many 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.960 will not even know that there was an original but 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.360 I guess that's how it is a lot of stuff 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.240 in this world, right rich damiro here rich on tech 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.880 eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.120 seven four to four to one zero one. You also 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.480 seem to like the email address, So hello at rich 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.040 on tech dot tv is the email address. Let's go 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.960 to Sarah in Ventura. Sarah, you're on with Rich. 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:21.920 Hi, Hi, Hi, I actually have the question one the plot. 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.800 This is not what I had asked originally, But do 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:29.000 you have a suggestion for a portable radio that has 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:35.880 n AA and Internet? And that's the regular radio? Whenever 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.080 I go something, I can't go any place. I have 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:42.480 to stay at home with my non portable radio. Do 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.280 you have a suggestion for a radio that gets Internet? 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.880 And the a radio that gets internet? There used to 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.280 be one that did, but gosh, I'm trying to think 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.440 of I mean, what about a smartphone? Do you want 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.760 something that's powered? I mean, what are you trying to 0:33:58.800 --> 0:33:59.480 do exactly? 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.120 Be able to go out of the house and take 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.960 a walk in a park and not have to worry 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:10.200 about the weather, be able to get internet. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:11.600 Showed? 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.279 What what about a smartphone for that? 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.520 I I don't I would. 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:22.600 Like to just have a radio. 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.000 Oh I don't. I'm trying to think off the top 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:30.799 of my head of a radio that would get the 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.479 Internet without being a smart device, and I really can't 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.160 think of one. There may be something out there, but 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.880 I'm not really I mean, a smartphone has sort of 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.520 taken over that streaming world, so I really don't know 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.480 of a device that would do that. There was a device. 0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.360 I actually kind of forgot about this device, but it 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.960 was like I was it a squeeze box? Yeah? There, 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.359 it was Logitech's Squeezebox radio. This was this was kind 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.279 of like back in the day. I guess they still 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.440 make this, No, but this was a little radio that 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.480 you could put in your house and it would tune 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.560 in the you know, any sort of Internet stream and 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.360 just a wide variety of streams and it was like everything. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.040 But that they haven't made that a long time. That 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.200 was by Logitech, but it says discontinued by manufacturer. That 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.520 was the last thing that I remember. But as far 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.279 as as far as a mobile device, I mean, you're 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.000 better off with just a pocket radio. I mean, just 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.319 get a radio that picks up regular over the air 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.719 radio stations. I don't know if it would get the 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.240 I think you said the NAA like the weather report 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.000 from I think that's what you're talking about there, but 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.799 I'm not sure. I think that. Yeah, like just an 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.400 FM tuner, just a standard walkman or something like that 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.920 would be your best your best bet in that circumstance 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.960 because the streaming is not going to work without the Internet. 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.560 So yeah, I mean a smartphone is really what everyone's using. 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.440 But if you don't want to do that, that's you know, 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.480 that's not going to work. Thanks for the question, appreciate that. Uh, 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.120 let's talk about AI because this is something that I 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.920 know I could make the entire show about AI. It 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:09.160 has really taken such a commanding role in not just 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.279 the tech world, but the entire world, and everyone's trying 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.720 to figure out how this is going to affect them, 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.560 how it's going to affect their company, their bottom line, 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.640 and the world at large. Because if you think that 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.000 this is just going to be used for searching on 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.239 the Internet and coming up with turn papers, well no, 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.880 there's going to be a lot more that AI is 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.719 going to be used for, and a lot of it's 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.520 going to be good, whether it's medical, whether it's productivity, 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.840 whether it's optimization, efficiency, all that stuff. AI is going 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:41.960 to be great for that, but it's also going to 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.759 be used in bad ways as well. And we're talking war, 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.959 we're talking theft, we're talking crime, we're talking cybercrime. There's 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.319 so many ways that this can be optimized. But the 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.759 thing I want to talk about right now is this 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.640 whole Hollywood strike. So I know that this is very 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.600 highly WOULD centric because I'm based in Los Angeles and 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.920 the strike literally, you know, happens outside the front doors 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.640 of you know where I work. But this is something 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.080 that affects you because if you've probably noticed that a 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.480 lot of your TV shows are already in rerun, especially 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.399 the late night shows, it's going to take a little 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.759 longer to trickle down to other things. But some of 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.880 those shows are just stopping, you know, they're they're just 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.120 not making new episodes right now. But one of the 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.600 things that the writers obviously a laundry list of things 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.360 that they want, but one of the things that they're 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.839 concerned about is this idea of AI writing scripts. And 0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.160 it's probably not happening in a huge way just yet, 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.840 but I see the potential, and I see the potential 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.279 in a couple different ways. Number One, the writers don't 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.920 want to be the polisher upper of something that AI writes. 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.400 So let's say you're a writer, this studio comes to 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.000 you and they say, hey, can you polish up this script? Well, 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.719 where did this script come from? Oh, we just got 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.239 it out of our AI machine. It just came up 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.640 with this new action adventure movie or romantic comedy, and 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.279 we need you to kind of, you know, make sure 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.680 everything sounds right and the lines sound good, and the 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.600 characters are all potentially you know, figured out in the 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.640 proper ways. And so, by the way, that polisher upper 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.879 job is a lot less expensive than the person who 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.680 writes the script job. And then this person has to 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.919 go through all this AI and make sure everything's right 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.880 and make sure it looks good and sounds good. So 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.600 they don't want to be playing second fiddle to AI. 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.920 I understand that. But the reality is, at some point 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.680 this is going to be a force in Hollywood because 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.880 think about it. AI can write things like trivia questions 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.719 and think about this idea and this is not my 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.399 idea per se, but this is something that's been kind 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:50.200 of percolating. Is that let's say you're writing a screenplay 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.680 off of a book. Well, in the past, the writer 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.440 would read the book and come up with the screenplay. Well, 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.640 what if you just fed that book into AI and 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.279 it can pop out the screenplay instantly, or you know, 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.640 matter of minutes and now you just need someone to 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.640 go through and make sure everything kind of sounds good 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:09.480 with that. Or what if you have a franchise right 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.960 back to the Future. You feed it all of the 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:13.880 Back to the Future movies and you say, now, right 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.440 back to the Future four and it writes Back to 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.120 the Future four based on one, two, and three, Or hey, 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.320 write me a new Home alone based on all these movies, 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.440 or a new Jurassic Park or a new Marvel movie. 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.480 I mean, these are things that it could do because software, 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.920 it's smart and it's only getting better. So Hollywood, you know, 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:33.920 it's not the only thing that they're picketing about, but 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.319 this is definitely one of those things that they kind 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.640 of want to figure out, like where does AI live 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.120 in Hollywood? Can it write scripts? Can it write stuff? 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.000 Do we have to polish this up? And so I 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.359 think that that's going to be something that they're going 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.200 to talk about. And I'm not sure that Hollywood is 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.759 going to give up all the rights to AI right 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.120 off the bat here because we're so early into AI. 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.759 But it's one of those things that is definitely a 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:04.200 maz consideration. And that's just for Hollywood. That's it's having 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.200 an impact in almost every industry you can think of. 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.600 The White House this week had a big summit to 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.879 talk about AI. So it lasted roughly two hours. They 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.440 had the President there, he stopped by, the Vice President 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.800 stopped by. Then they had leaders from Google, Microsoft, Open AI, 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.279 and also Anthropic, which is another startup. I believe that 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:31.920 they also have Anthropic. I believe they do something similar 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.680 to chat GPT. Yeah, so they all got in the 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.839 room and kind of talked about this stuff. Biden said, 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.200 what you're doing has enormous potential and enormous danger. I 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:46.400 would agree with that. They're looking at ethical, moral, and 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:51.480 legal obligations of this new technology, and nobody knows how 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.759 it's going to be used. I mean, we see how 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.839 it's being used right now for chat GPT, and people 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.920 are doing all kinds of things, but we don't know 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.720 truly how it can be used because we're so early 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.480 into this stuff. Now, how do you regulate something that 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.080 potentially has a mind of its own, and that's the 0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.440 way these AI systems feel. You program them, but then 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.680 they go out into the world and people figure out 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.560 ways of doing things with them that may not be 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.800 what the people who program them intended. And we're seeing 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.759 that with the Bangs of the world and the chat 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:31.440 gbts and the bards. Now they put some guardrails on 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:35.360 these systems that they're building, But again, what if someone 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.200 builds these things on their own. I mean, you could 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.160 regulate a company like Facebook and Twitter and chat GBT 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.080 and Google and Microsoft, and they may follow the rules. 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.160 But about someone who's just writing this stuff in their 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.040 home and they write a program that does something that 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:54.640 is against the rules or against the regulations. So I 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.759 think that this stuff is really really big. And it's 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:04.080 interesting because you had the Federal Trade Commission chairperson Lena Kahan. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:09.000 She they had a guest essay in the Times on Wednesday, 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:14.200 and she talked about how when Google and Facebook were born, 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:19.040 and this is true, everyone celebrated what they did. We 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:22.239 loved what Google did, we loved what Facebook did, and 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.160 I would agree with that. We just kind of let 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.400 them do their thing. And then ten years later we 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.160 all said, wait a second, hold on, what about the 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:33.520 privacy implications of this? What about the security implications of this? 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.640 What about the copyright implications? What about all these things 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.080 that we didn't sort of think of when these first happened. 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.680 And she said, now we have another option here with 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.359 this AI. Let's start from the beginning and let's have 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.200 kind of a critical eye towards this technology right off 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.720 the bat. And I think that that's probably smart, because 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.840 AI is going to be way more impactful than a Google, 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.080 or than a YouTube, than a Twitter, than a Facebook. 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.680 This stuff has far reaching implications that we are just 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.799 beginning to understand now. I'm not saying I have the 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.400 answer to how to make all this stuff work. I don't. 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.000 I don't think anyone does at this point. I think 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.000 we are all figuring this out as we go along. 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:22.160 But the bottom line is that we can't let this 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.359 just sort of happen in the way that we let 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.360 other things happen. We need to all come together and 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.759 figure out what is going to be right and what's 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.360 going to be best. And believe me, what's right and 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.280 best right now may not be what's right and best 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.920 in a year when this stuff is more developed because 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.640 we are just just at the beginning of this stuff. 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.799 Woo and it's wild. I mean, I love watching this 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:47.879 develop and the things people are doing with it. But man, 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.480 I don't know where it's going to go. I don't 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.520 think anyone does. All Right, coming up on the show, 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.600 we're going to talk to the founder and CEO of 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.080 a company called Farmer's Fridge. This is a company that's 0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.000 putting fresh food in more places. I tested it out. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.120 I tried out a solid it was delicious. We're going 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:08.759 to do that. Plus Apple and Google coming together. You 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.160 rarely hear this. They're coming together to make air tags safer. 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.360 We'll talk about that, plus your questions at eight eight 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.040 eight rich one oh one. You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:24.799 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:30.640 out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.399 oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:34.719 to one zero one. 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:35.480 Uh. 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:40.040 Micah has a suggestion for a radio. Uh from our 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.120 last caller, Micah, what's the radio? 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:48.120 Yeah, there's an Ocean Digital radio. It's a WRDSH twenty 0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:53.560 three F that is a battery powered FM and bluetooth 0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.520 has Bluetooth on it and Wi Fi radio. But her 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.120 issue is she's gonna need Wi Fi and that's the problem. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.520 You can't move, you know, you can't get a you know, 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.000 a Wi Fi signal world your Wi Fi radio without 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:07.719 having Wi Fi. 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.560 But this will get the FM signal though, right, the FM. 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:15.440 Signal you can get there's no oh okay, yeah, but 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.440 if she wants a good Wi Fi radio, the one 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:18.920 to get, the one that I'm listening to you on 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.480 now is the Sea Crane Wi Fi radio. 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.960 But it's not portable, it's got to be plugged in. 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:25.520 But it's absolutely amazing. 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.640 Yeah. So we've got a couple of a couple of ways, 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.960 but not exactly what she wants. I mean, I don't 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.480 I don't think what she wants exists as far as 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.760 I know. I mean, you can't pick up a streaming 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:39.040 signal over Wi Fi and then if you've got the 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:42.839 the NOAA signal, I you know, I just don't think 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.719 that that that combo is out there. But I do 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.799 like this, uh, this little ocean digital. This reminds me 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.840 of man, this is bringing it way back. But my 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.880 grandma used to sit at the kitchen table and listen 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.400 to a tiny portable radio like this, and you know, 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.040 didn't have the screen like the color screen, that's for sure, 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.359 but it was just a little tiny and it had 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.280 the antenna on it. And she used to every morning 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.080 when I woke up, she would be there at the 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:08.400 table listening to this radio. 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.400 My grandma too, exactly the same way. In fact, I 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:12.360 still have that radio. 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.040 Oh wow, we'll keep that one. 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.960 It's great and rich. Just so you know, this is 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.840 Mike your main man. We've been in touch about travel, 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.200 so if anything comes up with that, I'm your guy. 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:25.200 Awesome. I figured that, I thought when I saw Micah 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.080 and Main and I thought that, well, thanks for the 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.120 Ocean Digital recommendation. I like that. And the Sea Crane stuff. 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.640 I think that stuff i've heard. Yeah, let's see how 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.960 expensive those are, these little am I mean they've got 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:41.080 pocket radios, emergency radios. Yeah, I mean some of these 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.640 things are a little expensive. But yeah, the pocket radio 0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.120 is seventy bucks, so that's not too bad. And this 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.359 has the weather emergency radio on it as well. So yeah, 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.680 Sea Crane definitely has some stuff. I remember I used 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.399 to listen to a podcast they advertised Seacrane on there 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:59.279 a lot, so that's a good suggestion. Welcome back to 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.000 rich On location here at Crypto dot Com Arena formerly 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.440 Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles. Joining me now is 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:11.320 Luke Saunders. He is the founder and CEO of Farmers 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.600 Fridge and we're here because they've got three Farmers Fridge 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.279 locations here. Thanks for joining me, Yeah, thank you so 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.719 much for having me. All right, so let's talk about 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.880 Farmer's Fridge. I first saw this at LAX Los Angeles Airport, 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.520 and it's a vending machine filled with healthy foods like 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.200 fresh salads. And I was a little skeptical, I'll be honest, 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.359 but I ended up getting one on my way out, 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.279 and then I got one on my way home, so 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.680 it worked and the salads are fresh. You've got locations 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.040 all across the nation. Can you tell me how you 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:40.600 describe what Farmer's Fridge is. 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:45.759 Yeah, So, Farmers Fridge is a fresh food company. We 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:49.600 make fresh food every single day in a centralized kitchen, 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.800 and then we distribute that through a network of automated 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.040 smart fridges and in retail locreations across the country. 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:57.720 And really the idea is very simple. 0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.759 How do you make fresh, healthy food as accessible as 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:00.719 it came Amar. 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.160 How did you come up with the idea for this company? 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.360 Yeah, so I came up with it because I was 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.000 a traveling salesman. I was driving one thousand miles a week. 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.160 I was flying all the time, and one of the 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:11.920 biggest problems I had was trying to figure out what 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.759 I was going to have for lunch every day, and 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.160 how to have something that wasn't just fast food or 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:20.319 some kind of snack from a gas station. And I 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.560 realized you could make fresh food at scale and get 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.160 it to more people. You just had to get it 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.840 to the faster. And really the idea was if I 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.160 built the entire business model around the concept of making 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.560 real fresh food getting into people quickly, I could solve 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.440 the problem. And then I backed into the idea for 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.360 the vending machine because something like one hundred million people 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.680 a day in the United States actually visit a vending 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.760 machine to buy something, so clearly it's a very convenient 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.240 way to get food and get it to more places. 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.880 There's about eight million vending machines in the US, so 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.719 that helped to just make it more convenient, more accessible, 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.080 and lower the cost to serve fresh food. 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.359 And so where was your first location, and how many 0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.480 locations do you have now and in what types of 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.000 places are these smart fridges in? 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.879 Yeah, So when I got started, I thought the best 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.719 part of the idea was we were only going to 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.840 take up twelve square feet and I could go pretty 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.560 much anywhere and in a lot of places restaurants couldn't go. 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.799 But it turns out that a lot of people were 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.640 very skeptical about the idea of installing of any machine 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.759 full of fresh food in their office building or the 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.200 lobby of the hospital or something like that. So we 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.440 ended up in a food court in downtown Chicago. It 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.640 was objectively the worst food court in Chicago, but it 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:34.719 was the only place that would take us, and we 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.560 had one location, and it was really just to get 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.320 people to try the food, get some feedback on the concept, 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.640 and from there we've grown it now to over a 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:48.200 thousand locations across the country. We're in major retail stores 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.560 across the country, and also have about six hundred and 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:56.560 fifty fridges that we operate in hospitals, universities, airports, even 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.240 places like this arenas. 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.960 So tell me about making this food. It's got to 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.000 be fresh. You make it in Chicago, but somehow it 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.640 makes its way to Los Angeles and it still tastes fresh. 0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:07.399 So how do you do that? 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:11.040 Yeah, So when I started, at the very beginning, I 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.960 was making the food, I was delivering the food. I 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.840 was building the fridges, and we still do things pretty 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.759 much the same way. So I would actually drive down 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.920 to the produce terminal in the morning, get the freshest 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.920 product I could get it in, chop it up, put 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.759 it in the jar, and get it to that fridge. 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.280 So we have just continued to do that business model, 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.360 but now we just do it tens of thousands of 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.400 times a day. So we get whole ingredients in, we 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.560 make dressings from scratch. We're literally cutting up whole heads 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:41.400 of lettuce and mixing avocados to make our fresh in 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.520 house squacamole, and so the whole business is designed to 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.880 facilitate having that be our process and then get it 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.719 to people quickly. A huge component that's made it scalable 0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.879 as we built a lot of technology in terms of 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.240 where to send all of the food that we're making, 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.000 but also like how to get fees back from customers 0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.879 if things aren't fresh and improve that, or we can 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.480 lock a fridge if it goes out of temperature remotely, 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.759 so all of that has made it so that it's scalable. 0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.880 But the idea is exactly the same as it was 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.440 at the beginning. You'd get a whole ingredient in make 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.560 a dressing from scratch. It's going to taste good. You 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.360 said to get it to people quickly so they have 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:19.960 enough time to buy it before it goes bad. 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.280 Let's talk about some of the food that's in this fridge. 0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:26.680 So these salads are served in sort of plastic jars. 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.600 Is that what you'd call them, Yeah, it's a plastic jar. 0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.160 So the idea at the beginning, I was actually trying 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.080 to figure out what kind of packaging to use that 0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:38.440 would help reinforce freshness, and my brother in law actually 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.360 recommended these mason jar salads he had seen on Pinterest, 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.640 and so I initially thought it was a crazy idea, 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.040 but once I started testing with them, it just looks 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.000 so beautiful. It actually helps keep the food fresh because 0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.440 you can layer ingredients, so we put like wet and 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.280 acidic ingredients on the bottom, things like lettuce on the top. 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.319 So that allows you to have a higher quality meal 0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:04.040 that lasts long, younger and it really just shows really 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.680 well in the machine because what we found. I tried 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.680 so many different ways to tell customers our food was 0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.520 fresh at the beginning, and over and over again. What 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.560 we heard when we'd actually talk to the potential customers 0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.719 or people that were intimidated by the vending machine is 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.359 I'm looking at your food and I want to see 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.560 that that food looks fresh, and you can tell, like 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.680 the greens are not wilted, they're not brown, things are 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.240 clearly handmade. And we were getting that kind of feedback constantly, 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.040 So that's a big part of why we packaged it 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:31.359 that way. 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:33.440 And so in the machine, I see all types of 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.680 different salads. You've got wraps, you've got hard boiled eggs 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:40.440 in there. Like you said, chips and guac. What's some 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:41.400 of your top sellers. 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.080 So actually the chips and guac is a top seller, 0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.960 which makes a lot of sense for us because we 0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.880 actually are making that Guacamolean house. We're adding pe go 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.759 to the top. There's no preservatives, nothing, and then it's 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.600 only I have a few days shelf life. So you 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:58.600 cannot buy a product like that anywhere else. And I 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:02.120 think the average price is for the Caesar salad is 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.960 one of my personal favorites. It's just a very high 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.719 quality caesar salad with chicken. But the idea is to 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.000 have twenty five skews and have every single one of 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.879 those be something that you're like, Wow, that was great, 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:13.600 I'll buy it again. 0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:15.720 And what type of price point are we talking? 0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.359 So the products range in price from three dollars all 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.879 the way up to about ten dollars on the high end. 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.919 Our average item is about six fifty. You can also 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:27.799 get a discount if you're using our app. There's a 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.520 loyalty program, but then we also offer twenty five percent 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:33.600 off at the airport. So on average, our average ticket 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:35.040 is actually lower than McDonald's. 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:36.920 So tell me about the tech that helps you get 0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:38.200 these salads in these machines. 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.040 Yeah, So the core technology for Farmer's Fridge is really 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.319 about inventory management, so we can see in real time 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.560 what's in every single fridge across the country. And then 0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:52.880 every day we're making tens of thousands of meals, and 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:54.759 so the idea is we don't actually know where they're 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.120 going until the end of the day because that gives 0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.360 us as much time during the day to get the 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.200 sales data from the fridges and then a cost function 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:05.360 algorithm runs. So essentially it's looking at what's the inventory 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.920 in the network, how many products did you produce, and 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:11.759 things like the weather or tsa checkpoint traffic to say 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.000 this is where we think you should send everything to 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:17.680 maximize the profitability and reduce the amount of unsold inventory 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.600 the next day. So imagine like we kind of get 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:23.160 that report and everybody snaps into action. We're picking and 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.560 packing the food, putting it onto trucks and getting it out. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:26.120 To the fridges. 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.400 And over the last year we've even invested in pushing 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:33.000 that prediction downstream. So what that means is we make 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.520 it once at our initial production facility, but then we'll 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.759 make it multiple points along the way. So when a 0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:41.839 driver gets to the airport, let's say a flight got 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.640 in late and a bunch of people were hungry, bought 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:47.800 ten salads. His drivers app he actually carries an iPad 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.400 with him, will tell him here's where you should actually 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.640 take this item from this fridge on your route and 0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:55.799 put it into this fridge on your route, and it's 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.640 giving them all that feedback in real time. So from 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.480 start to finish, the whole technology process is about how 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.759 do you make fresh food scalable? And really that's about 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.640 inventory management. 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.000 The one question I had was when I bought my 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:08.839 salad and I took it on my flight, how long 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.160 do I have to eat this? How long can I 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.640 keep this salad out of the fridge and still consume 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:14.160 it safely? 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.200 Yeah, so, I mean, obviously I recommend eating the salad 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:19.680 when you get out of the fridge for just taste 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.960 and quality, because it's cold and it's crisp. But generally speaking, 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.759 the guidelines for fresh food or you want to keep 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:30.319 it under forty degrees. If it's over forty degrees after 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.120 four hours, you definitely want to throw it away. Us 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.880 For example, the fridge actually if it goes above forty 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:37.959 degrees for more than an hour will shut down. 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:39.120 You cannot buy anything. 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.440 So but in general, if you're a consumer, you're on 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.920 your flight, you have before our flight, you bought that salad, 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.200 you should still eat it. Is my recommendation. 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.000 What's the goal of all this, what's the goal of 0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.960 Farmer's Fridge. The goal is really simple. 0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.400 Farmer's Fridge wants to make fresh, healthy food as accessible 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.799 as a candy bar. And what that means is you 0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.320 should anytime you see a candy bar, have the option 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.520 to also get a salad, not because you shouldn't have 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:04.759 a candy bar, but just because we're going to give 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:06.520 people the option. We don't even want you to think 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.360 about this as healthy food. It's just something that's convenient 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.520 and affordable and tastes good, and so you want to 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.160 buy more of it, and so until we're kind of 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:17.319 everywhere and that's true, we're gonna keep going. 0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:20.279 Luke Sanders from farmers Fridge dot com. Thanks so much 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.440 for joining me today. Thank you so much for having me. 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.200 Appreciating on coming up more of your phone calls at 0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:27.799 triple eight rich one O one you are listening to 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:37.919 rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:42.360 DeMuro here hanging with you talking technology at Triple A 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:45.600 rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to 0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:50.520 two four one zero one. Uh, don't forget. You can 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:53.160 follow me on social media at rich on Tech. I'm 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.560 on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Twitter, and you 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.720 can always go to the website rich on Tech dot TV. 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.600 Let's go to Courtney in Huntington Beach. Courtney, you're on 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:03.440 with Rich Hi. 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:05.799 Rich, I used to have a Nokia thirty three ten 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.719 dumb phone, and I had to get rid of it 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.560 since they did away with three G service. I've had 0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.840 an iPhone for the last year, and I'm ready to 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.520 go back to a dumb phone and was hoping you 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.000 could give me some recommendations. 0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.680 You're going back to a dumb phone after being on 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:19.520 a smartphone? 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:24.480 Why I am getting sucked into the vortex of technology? 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.160 Uh, I hear you. I am. You know what it's 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.520 I am the same way. I mean, I've made a 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.720 living on it. But with that said, I will tell 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:36.280 you when I am done with this show, usually around 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:40.880 two o'clock in the afternoons, I literally go on this. 0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:43.880 I have this like I can't explain it, Like I 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.360 feel like I need to have no phone for like 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:50.480 the next twenty four hours because I've been now doing 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.160 tech stuff for six days in a row. Right, So 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.480 I understand where you're coming from, and I think there 0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:58.160 are some solutions to this, and I was looking at 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:01.880 this for myself actually, So a couple things. Number One, 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.840 you had the Nokia, the very famous thirty three ten 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.840 that was a very very famous, you know, dumb phone. 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.880 Nokia is a good place to start Now I'm not 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.280 going to give you specific models because there's so many, 0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:17.640 but I will tell you you're not going to get five 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.120 G on these phones, but you will get four G 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:25.280 and so these phones will be supported. So the first thing, 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.320 since you said you have an iPhone, what I would 0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:34.440 suggest is consider maybe taking a tiptoe away from the smartphone. 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.000 And maybe that means getting an Apple Watch. And I 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.920 know that may sound like it's going to bring you 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:42.200 more into this world, but hear me out. So you 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:45.320 get the Apple Watch with cellular. You have that on 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.160 your wrist, and when you are fed up with the 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:52.240 endless scrolling and the social media and all of these 0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.800 different things that we are sucked into on our phones, 0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.320 you put the phone away, you turn it off, and 0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:00.360 you put it in a drawer. And now you've got 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.800 your phone on your wrist. So you can still get calls, 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.200 you can still get texts, but you're not going to 0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:09.040 be scrolling Instagram. You're not going to be distracted because 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.440 there's only so much you can do on that tiny 0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:14.480 Apple Watch. Now, it's not as drastic as going with 0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:18.280 a dumb phone, but it's kind of a nice middle ground. 0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:21.200 The thing that you miss in that situation is a camera, 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.600 and that's really what it comes down to for me, 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.120 is that I would like to have a camera with 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.160 me because well, the journalist in me wants that, and 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:33.400 just in general I want that. So if you don't 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.120 want to go the Apple Watch route, and I think 0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.200 that's a nice way to do it if you want to. 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.000 You know, like sometimes when I just want to focus 0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.440 on my kids, let's say I'm at like their basketball 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:43.840 game or something like that, I will just keep the 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:46.040 phone in the car and just have the Apple Watch 0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:49.000 and just try to It doesn't happen very often, believe me, 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.360 but that's kind of one method that I'll use to 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:56.080 focus the other thing. Nokia is a good brand. Alcaatel 0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:01.120 is another brand, alca Tel alcatl and they make a 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:04.920 flip phone that is pretty basic. I have the older 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.600 version of this, it's the Flip three. Now they're up 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.880 to the Flip four, but this will work as well. Now, again, 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:15.320 you can go to all these things, but it's definitely 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.280 going to be a problem after being on the iPhone 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:20.440 for a year. Maybe you'll love it. I don't know, 1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:24.120 but Nokia and Alcatel are the two places to start. 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:27.400 Now there are some other options. There's something called the 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:31.880 light Phone, and I've tested this. It's pretty much a 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:35.640 Kindle screen, so it's got an e ink display. It's 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.360 very small, it's very compact. There's no camera on it 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:41.240 as far as I remember, and it's just a very 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:44.120 simple device. The only problem on this device is really 1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:47.840 going to be texting. It's definitely not the best experience 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:49.840 for texting, but then again, maybe you want to get 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:52.320 away from texting by having one of these. Now, the 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.840 light Phone is not cheap, so the Nokia and the 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:58.400 alcatl options those are going to be. You can find 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:02.240 stuff sub one hundred bucks, no problem. The light Phone, 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:05.560 as far as I remember, is a couple hundred dollars. 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:11.200 So let's see how much is this thing? North American model? Yeah, 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:16.360 three hundred dollars unlocked, So that's considerably more expensive. And 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:19.080 at that price, I think that's why one of these 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:20.840 this has been a little bit tougher of a sell 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.240 for people, because you're looking at this phone and you're like, 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:24.440 why is this so expensive? 1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:24.840 Why is this? 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:28.040 What makes this three hundred dollars? Now, there's another brand 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:32.160 I just found on Amazon called the u. It looks 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:36.480 like it's called Punked p U n KT and this 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:39.960 phone is actually three hundred and ninety nine dollars. But 1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:43.640 this looks like a really nice option. It's got Wi Fi, 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:48.440 it's unlocked. It's a four g minimalist mobile phone. It's 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:51.120 got two gigs a RAM, sixteen gigs storage, and a 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:55.280 pretty large battery. It comes in blue and black, and 1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:58.880 it looks this looks like the phone that I would like. Now, 1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:01.920 the problem with the light phone is that it's all screen, 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.600 so you're dialing the numbers on the screen and all 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:08.160 that stuff. The Punked phone, that's how I'm saying it right, 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:11.240 actually has buttons on it, which I think are better 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:14.520 in that case. And this looks like it was created 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:19.120 just for that minimalist lifestyle. And so oh now look 1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:22.560 at this. Siri was listening on my watch the whole time. See, 1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.080 this is the problem with technology. Siri just kind of 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:27.800 jumps in and gives her two cents on things. But 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:29.800 those are the brands that I would look for. I 1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:32.440 think that all three of those, or all four of 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:34.600 those are going to be good options. But I think 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:36.959 don't discount the Apple Watch. I know that the Apple 1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:39.560 Watch seems like it would make you more enmeshed in 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:42.880 this whole iPhone Apple world. But I actually think it's 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:47.280 it's kind of like a secret way of being disconnected 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:50.560 but still connected. And by the way, all of these devices, 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:53.120 or many of these devices that you get, like the 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:56.320 light phone and the punk phone, you may be able 1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:59.360 to add those as a number share on your account. 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:02.480 So maybe talk to your carrier about a number share device. 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:05.200 Because I was surprised since I was just looking at 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.120 this for my carrier and I didn't realize, but you 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:11.760 could have up to five devices as number sharing. I 1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:14.040 thought it was just the iPhone and the Apple Watch. No, 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:16.760 it turns out if I wanted to, I could numbers 1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:18.920 share with the light phone as well. And that means 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:22.080 that your same phone number will ring all phones. Now, 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:24.840 your mileage may vary depending on your carrier, but those 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:28.160 are you know, something to ask the question, just to 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:30.880 see if that's a possibility, and go into your carrier 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:34.160 store and just tell them what you're thinking and see 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:36.000 what they say. They may say, Oh, we've got this 1:03:36.080 --> 1:03:38.680 alcatl that you can add to your account for you know, 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:41.280 five bucks a month and that will share your phone number. 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:44.880 See what they say, Great, question, Courtney. It's something that 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:48.720 I think about very very often, because, believe me, I 1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:52.880 love being connected, but sometimes I just really enjoy being disconnected. 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:55.440 And I'm telling you it's not easy. It could be 1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:57.680 tricky sometimes to do that because you just feel like 1:03:57.720 --> 1:04:02.880 you're missing out. All Right, Before we go to break here, 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:04.360 I want to tell you about this because I was 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:07.520 just talking about cell phones. Check your cell phone bill. 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:10.560 I tweeted about this last week because I was going 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:13.320 through my bill and sometimes i'll actually download like the 1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:17.000 PDF of my bill, and I noticed that I was 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:20.920 being charged for my wife's Apple Watch that I disconnected 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:24.880 three months ago. So she went from a cellular Apple 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:28.080 Watch to a regular Apple Watch, a non cellular and 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:30.600 I called up the carrier and I said, hey, can 1:04:30.680 --> 1:04:32.760 you cancel this line. I don't know if I called 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:35.280 or I chatted. I couldn't really remember. Actually, I think 1:04:35.320 --> 1:04:37.960 I chatted with them online and they said, okay, we'll 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:40.720 disconnect it. Well, my bill went down somehow, I don't 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:43.520 know how, but sure enough I was still being charged. 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:45.000 Now it wasn't a ton of money, it was only 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.440 like ten bucks a month whatever, but still I was 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.600 paying for something that physically didn't even work, like her 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:53.880 watch had no cellular connectivity. And so I asked the 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:55.680 customer service person, I said, can you tell me the 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:59.640 last time that her watch actually used any data for 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:01.840 this ten dollars a month that I'm paying? And they said, well, 1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:03.400 it was about three months ago. I said, yeah, that's 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:05.960 what I called to cancel this thing. Now, I will 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:09.080 say the carrier was very nice. I remained calm. I 1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:12.680 was not mean. I was not, you know, accusing them 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:14.520 of doing something wrong. I mean, there was just some 1:05:14.600 --> 1:05:17.480 sort of miscommunication. And in fact, I thought I was 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:20.760 pretty pretty uh in the wrong for not noticing that 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:24.920 my bill was, you know, something I was getting. I 1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:27.000 was paying for something I didn't even have, Like how 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:30.160 did I miss that for three months? So what they 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:32.560 did was I said, and I always say, I always 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:34.600 try to be very nice to these customer service folks. 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:36.720 I said, look, can you make a one time exception? 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:38.560 Can you give me a credit? And they said, sure, 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:40.520 you know what, We're going to give you a six 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:42.640 month credit, and we're going to give you extra five 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:44.960 bucks on top of that. So it pays to check 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:48.040 your physical bills. Believe me, you never know when you 1:05:48.120 --> 1:05:50.320 might find a mistake and be nice when you call 1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:53.200 in to ask for a correction. I think these companies 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:54.520 have a lot of money they can they can give 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:57.080 you that sixty dollars credit. 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Phone 1:06:34.880 --> 1:06:37.560 lines are open at Triple eight rich one O one 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:41.880 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:44.840 That's what Dale and Oceanside. Did he dial that number 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:46.040 and now he's on Dale? 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:50.000 Welcome, Hi, good afternoon, Rich Thank you for taking my call. 1:06:50.240 --> 1:06:51.880 Thanks for calling in. What's going on? 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:55.560 I have a question about casting from an Android phone 1:06:55.680 --> 1:07:00.560 to a to new smart TVs. I used to be 1:07:00.640 --> 1:07:03.320 able to go to like my brother or sister's house 1:07:03.840 --> 1:07:06.040 and just put whatever I want on my screen and 1:07:06.360 --> 1:07:09.120 just you know, if it was an app, I would 1:07:09.160 --> 1:07:11.560 hit the little button that indicates to cast to the 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:14.400 TV and it's easy. Or I would go into the 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:17.120 Google Home app and hit the little button that says cast, 1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:19.360 and that way I could do anything on my screen. 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:24.000 But the little in the last month, and I know 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:25.960 because I did this some months ago, the last month, 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:29.320 the little button where it says cast to the TV 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:33.080 is gone from like all my apps except for YouTube. 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:37.240 YouTube casts very easily, and the button that says cast 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:39.439 in the Google Home app is gone. 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:40.680 And I don't know if that's. 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:44.080 Because they're they're redoing the Google Home app right now. 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:49.840 What are your thoughts, HM, Well, my initial thought is 1:07:50.040 --> 1:07:53.880 I actually think that YouTube is I think that none 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:55.920 of the casting is working. I think that YouTube is 1:07:55.960 --> 1:07:59.520 going around and doing something a little bit differently. I 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:03.080 think that it's connecting with the TV kind of on 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:05.400 the back end and not using cast. I think you're 1:08:05.440 --> 1:08:07.840 using it as a controller. I think that's just my theory. 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:12.120 But now when it comes to Google Home, so a 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:13.800 couple things what kind of phone are using? Are you 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:15.919 using a Pixel or a Samsung? What are you using? 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:19.040 It's a Galaxy two plus, okay, So. 1:08:19.160 --> 1:08:21.599 Because there used to be well on the pixel, there's 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:23.600 an option to I don't have my Samsung with me. 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.960 I've got the Pixel here, but you know, there's an 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:29.839 option to just cast the screen right from the quick tiles. 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:31.720 Does the Samsung have that? 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:32.080 You know? 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:34.800 I don't know where would I find it. 1:08:35.120 --> 1:08:37.040 So when you swipe down from the top of the 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:39.600 screen and you swipe down again, you get all the 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:42.920 tiles I say, like Internet, Bluetooth, flashlight, all those kind 1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:46.640 of airplane mode. So if you swipe through those on 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:49.000 the pixel, I see one that says screen cast, and 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:52.599 that's the way to just cast anything on your screen. 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:55.120 That's kind of what you were talking about inside the 1:08:55.439 --> 1:08:58.080 Google Home app. But that's just another way of finding it. 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:00.600 So and you may have to edit your tiles to 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:02.840 see if Samsung offers that one. I'm not sure that 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.800 they do. That may be a pixel thing. But that's 1:09:05.880 --> 1:09:09.439 number one, okay, So that's number one. Number two. Yes, 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:12.360 the Home app has changed every single time I've opened 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.080 it in the past, like three weeks. Every time I 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.519 open it, it's doing something differently, So I'm I don't 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:19.559 know if that feature is still in there or why 1:09:19.640 --> 1:09:22.280 they you know, everything, look, even when I go into 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:24.880 it says settings have moved to the settings to have 1:09:25.360 --> 1:09:27.639 so And this morning it was like, do you want 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:30.800 to update all of your items and do you want 1:09:30.840 --> 1:09:33.240 to choose your favorites? I was like, wait, what, hold on? 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:36.120 Hold on? Now they call these things automations that used 1:09:36.120 --> 1:09:39.280 to be my routines. So I'm I'm still learning that 1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:41.679 app and all the new stuff it's doing, because clearly 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:46.560 it is really really changed. So when it comes to 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:53.280 the actual casting on the apps have I mean usually 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:55.600 if you're on the Wi Fi and the TV's on 1:09:55.680 --> 1:09:58.240 the same Wi Fi, it's the app is the icon 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:00.600 is going to show up, the little cast icon and 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:02.280 you're saying, that's not happening anymore. 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:04.080 I just can't. 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:06.880 I can't seem to find it anymore. Used to be 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:10.000 in the upper right hand corner, and I just don't, 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:12.479 you know, the only one I'm trying to cast is 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.360 ABO max and that's the one that's supposed to be 1:10:14.400 --> 1:10:17.720 easily castable, and I just don't see it. But I 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:19.760 didn't know if that was maybe tied in or if 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:20.320 that's just me. 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:22.760 I don't think so. I think now have have the 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:25.200 the TV that you're trying to do this on, has 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:28.120 the Wi Fi connection changed? Because it all goes it 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:29.840 has to be on the same Wi Fi network for 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:30.880 that button to show up. 1:10:32.000 --> 1:10:33.800 It's on the same wife. 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:35.559 It is one dent on the same Wi Fi. Okay, 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:40.799 so what about now you're using, uh is the cast 1:10:41.160 --> 1:10:44.559 baked into the TV or is it a chrome cast device? 1:10:45.560 --> 1:10:45.760 You know? 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:48.360 I have a Chrome cast and I brought it down 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:51.360 here to use it, but then I realized the TV 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:54.679 would just accept the casting without the chrome cast. Okay, 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:56.479 so I don't need I don't need the chrome. It's 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:57.719 it's a really new TV. 1:10:57.960 --> 1:10:59.800 Okay, it's a really new TV. So a couple things. 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:02.160 Are we sure that the Wi Fi did not get 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:05.519 disconnected on that TV? Because can you access other Wi 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:06.920 Fi enabled things on there? 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:12.800 I'd have to figure out how to test that. I 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:14.880 get that. Okay, that's a thought. I'll investigate that. 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:17.240 So that's that's my initial thought, is that you know, 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:21.519 like I have a TV in the office that I 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:23.640 went to cast something and it wasn't working, and I 1:11:23.720 --> 1:11:25.920 was like, why isn't this working? And I realized I 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:29.439 had turned the Wi Fi off for privacy reasons, because 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:31.640 a lot of these new TVs they send all the 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:34.400 data back to the manufacturer and they scan what you're 1:11:34.439 --> 1:11:37.080 watching and they send it back. So if you don't 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:39.640 want that happening, you know, you just turned the Wi 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:41.559 Fi off. And so I realized that I had turned 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:43.640 that off, and now I turned it back on and 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:46.160 the little cast button showed up. So a couple of 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:48.800 things that I would do to troubleshoot, and I, you know, 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:51.080 I think that the main thing is to make sure 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:53.559 the Wi Fi is on the same networks on both 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:57.280 of these devices. Obviously you said that's happening. If it's 1:11:57.479 --> 1:11:59.880 a device that's connected to the TV, like a Chrome CA, 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:03.160 I just unplug it, plug it back in and maybe 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:06.519 that will force the connection again. Otherwise, if it's the TV, 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:08.640 check to see if the Wi Fi is on. But 1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:12.720 in general, Wi Fi the Wi Fi network has to 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:16.160 be the same if you're casting something, and it's just 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:20.599 one of those things where it shows up natively inside 1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:23.639 the app when it recognizes that it can connect to something. 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:27.800 So if you're not seeing that cast icon inside different apps. 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:30.719 I would also open up Netflix because that's the easiest 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:33.160 to kind of see if the cast icon shows up there. 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:36.680 I would open up that one and see. So you 1:12:36.760 --> 1:12:39.200 said it works on YouTube, which means there's some sort 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:41.679 of life happening and there's some sort of connection happening 1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:46.120 between these two devices. But YouTube is Google. Cast is Google, 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.800 so it's a little bit trickier because Google has some 1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:54.120 ways of making that connection more so than other apps 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:57.200 that may just be using the cast framework there. So 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:00.360 those are my suggestions, Dale, I think you're going to 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:03.479 get this to work, maybe restart both devices as well 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:06.160 and see if they come back up. And also maybe 1:13:06.200 --> 1:13:08.680 on that TV, get rid of any like forget any 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:10.960 Wi Fi networks that it may have been connected to 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:13.840 in the past that could be confusing it as well. 1:13:14.000 --> 1:13:17.120 But Google casts a great thing when it works, and 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:19.880 it's one of those things that you don't realize how 1:13:19.920 --> 1:13:23.880 good it is until, Like we bring a Chrome cast 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:26.760 to hotels, and not every hotel lets you do it, 1:13:26.880 --> 1:13:29.000 but you can just pop the Chrome cast into the 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:31.800 back of the TV and cast anything. It's a little 1:13:31.840 --> 1:13:34.080 tricky because they do have to be on the same 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:36.240 Wi Fi network. And I had some I'm trying to 1:13:36.240 --> 1:13:38.320 think how I got around that last time, but it 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:42.200 was a little tricky because you can't necessarily use the 1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:45.120 Wi Fi that the hotel provides. I think I make 1:13:45.160 --> 1:13:47.439 my phone a hotspot. I think I did that. But 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:49.559 the other thing is that a lot of these TVs. 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:51.479 You go to these hotels now and they just have 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.839 casting built in, like it's just a thing. You connect 1:13:54.880 --> 1:13:57.320 to the hotel Wi Fi, you say what room number 1:13:57.360 --> 1:14:00.240 you're in, and wow. Especially the I think was the 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:04.599 Hyatt hotels that do this and it just has the casting. 1:14:04.680 --> 1:14:07.479 But I've seen it in different brands, so it's a 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:12.120 great thing when it works and it's fun. Oh, speaking 1:14:12.160 --> 1:14:16.040 of Netflix, did you know that you can download your 1:14:16.280 --> 1:14:21.639 entire viewing history. Dwight Silverman in the Houston Chronicle talks 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:23.519 about this. We had him on the show last week. 1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:27.080 This is really interesting. I was not aware of this 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:30.000 until I read his column, and yes, you can download 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:34.080 all of your personal data and he downloaded his. I 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:41.040 downloaded mine over yesterday and you can see everything, everything 1:14:41.160 --> 1:14:45.600 you've watched, everything everyone on your account has watched. You 1:14:45.720 --> 1:14:48.679 can see every single device that is logged into your account. 1:14:48.760 --> 1:14:52.320 When they log in what they're doing when they're doing it, 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:56.320 and it's pretty thorough. I was going through some of 1:14:56.320 --> 1:14:58.559 the files. There's a bunch of files. It's not it's 1:14:58.560 --> 1:15:00.400 not a large file, but it's just a lot of 1:15:00.439 --> 1:15:03.680 little files. So to do this, you can go to 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:08.640 Netflix dot com, slash account, slash get my info. And 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:11.280 there's no reason to do this except just for fun. 1:15:11.800 --> 1:15:13.240 This is not like I'm not telling you this like 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:14.920 you should go snooping on all the people that are 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:16.920 sharing your account. It's just kind of fun to see 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:19.720 all the information that they're collecting because you kind of 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:22.320 forget about this. And the reason why they're doing this 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:26.519 is because, well A, I think they're mandated by you know, 1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:30.519 all these you know, freedom of like the thing where 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:33.479 you can download your Google data all this stuff. But 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:35.720 I think they're also kind of flexing a little bit 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:38.719 because they're saying, yeah, we know every single IP address 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:41.320 that's using your account, we know which device is using it, 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:44.160 we know who's the profile, and yeah, we're going to 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:48.760 use this information once we start cracking down onsload password freeloaders. 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:52.120 So once you request your info, it's not instant, but 1:15:52.160 --> 1:15:55.080 they'll email you when it's ready and you can see 1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:57.799 your full viewing activity. It shows you everything that's happening 1:15:57.840 --> 1:16:00.920 on there, and then you've got the which shows you 1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:04.760 all the hardware. But as Dwight explains, the creepiest file 1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:08.040 on the batch is the one called clickstream. This literally 1:16:08.200 --> 1:16:10.960 shows you all of the actions taken by users on 1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:14.280 your account. You can see when someone looks at episode titles, 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:17.720 read the description of a movie, or clicked playback, and 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:21.080 it's like a it's like a play by play of 1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:24.040 exactly what they do on Netflix. It even says something 1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:27.240 like this trailer for this show auto played on their 1:16:27.280 --> 1:16:27.840 home screen. 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:28.880 So it is. 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:31.519 It is quite thorough. If you want to download your 1:16:31.640 --> 1:16:37.160 Netflix data again, just go to Netflix dot com, slash account, 1:16:37.240 --> 1:16:41.840 slash get my info and uh yeah, it's pretty eye opening, 1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:44.479 kind of fun just to see all the info that 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:47.320 they're collecting on you. All right, coming up, we're going 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:51.280 to talk about Apple and Google teaming up to prevent 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:55.440 unwanted tracking with air tags and other trackers and Airbnb. 1:16:56.560 --> 1:16:59.599 Everything old is new again with Airbnb. So I'm gonna 1:16:59.640 --> 1:17:03.040 tell you the new feature that is coming back that'll 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:06.000 make travel cheaper, plus your calls triple eight rich one 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:08.679 O one eight eight eight seven four to two four 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:13.200 to one zero one. You're listening to Rich on tech. Oh, 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:15.280 I have a show to do. I could listen to 1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:21.439 this song forever. This is definitely on repeat. There's something 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:25.679 about songs when they just have such a unique hook 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:27.840 to them, like there's just you know, the songs are 1:17:27.880 --> 1:17:30.160 a dime a dozen, but there's just some that break 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:35.320 out like this one. It's got such a unique sound 1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:38.640 and feel and energy to it that it's just you 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:40.559 just can't get enough of it. You can just listen 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:45.320 to it forever. Rich Tamiro here talking technology with you 1:17:45.600 --> 1:17:48.360 at eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's eight 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:52.200 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:56.240 Coming up later in the show, we're gonna talk to 1:17:56.479 --> 1:18:01.120 Josh auerback. He is the COO of Aura Free. This 1:18:01.320 --> 1:18:04.040 is one of my favorite gadgets of the past couple 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:07.639 of years. And talking to Josh for a reason, because 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:09.760 Mother's Day is coming up, and if you're looking for 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:13.320 something that would be the perfect gift, not just for mom, 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:15.960 this works for any family member, but it's such a 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:20.320 great way to send your digital pictures to their frame 1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:23.519 in their home. It's really cool. So we'll talk about 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:26.200 that in some of the new features there. Okay, let's 1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:31.120 get to Ryan in La Ryan you're on with Rich Hi. 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:33.280 Rich, Hi, thank you for taking my call. I've been 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:37.720 a long time viewer and now listener. Oh thanks, And 1:18:38.000 --> 1:18:39.200 I had a good question for you. 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:41.040 What is it? 1:18:42.240 --> 1:18:42.280 So? 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.920 I just recently rebuilt my computer and I did a 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:49.439 motherboard change and a TPU change and GPU and everything, 1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:53.680 and I now have the remaining stuffs from like my 1:18:53.880 --> 1:18:57.360 last computer, and I've been recommended by using constantly that 1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:01.360 old computer for maybe sending up with server inside my 1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:02.720 house or like what would be a good use for 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:04.400 a remaining computer like that? 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:08.240 Yeah, I mean I think that the well, I mean, 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:10.280 do you need a server? Because so is this a 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:12.439 full computer, like ready to go, like it still works 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:12.920 and everything. 1:19:13.320 --> 1:19:15.680 I would just need a case. That would be the 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:17.400 main thing I'd be missing, is just a case to 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:17.880 keep it in. 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.720 Okay, And I imagine since you're building these things, this 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:22.599 is still a pretty good computer. 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:26.719 Yeah, it's it's a decent computer. I just it definitely 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:31.000 could do most anything I would recommend it like doing 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.680 like maybe cryptocurrency or but like I wasn't sure what 1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:35.280 would be a great use for something like that. 1:19:35.560 --> 1:19:37.920 I mean, look, so once you have a computer that 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:41.519 is no longer necessary, my thing is that I will 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.479 typically give it to a family member that needs it. 1:19:44.640 --> 1:19:47.679 That's kind of like the number one. Now that's referring 1:19:47.760 --> 1:19:51.400 to laptops usually, so typically I'll replace my laptop every 1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.080 three years or so, and I will give the old 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:56.639 one to, you know, either my kid or my mom 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.559 or my dad or anyone. I've given them to all 1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:02.000 of my FAMI family members at this point, so that's 1:20:02.200 --> 1:20:04.680 that's number one. Now, this is a desktop, This is 1:20:05.000 --> 1:20:08.040 a larger computer, so that may not be something that 1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:10.120 they want per se. I mean unless they have a 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:14.439 desktop setup or whatever. But the other thing you could 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:17.000 do if you you know, you talked about making a server. 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:18.920 I think that the bottom line is do you need 1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:22.320 the server? And I think that in this day and age, 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:25.320 it's good to have that in your home. I would 1:20:25.360 --> 1:20:28.480 be concerned about how much power this computer is consuming 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:30.439 to to just run a server that you may or 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.800 may not need, So that's kind of the consideration there. 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:37.360 But in general, if you were using it as a server, 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:39.639 it'd be good to sort of back up anything that's 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:42.599 in the cloud, So whether it's Google Photos, whether it's uh, 1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:45.200 you know, anything that you're storing online, you can have 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:49.000 it back up to that device. Otherwise, people, you know, 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:50.920 you can run sort of a plex server on it 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:53.040 or something like that to serve up your video and 1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:57.280 audio if you're doing that. But personally, I think that 1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:00.519 it's unless you absolutely one need this thing to be 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:03.680 a server, I would probably find another use for it. 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:05.920 And I know you're proud of this machine because you 1:21:06.000 --> 1:21:09.920 built it, so I would try to place this with 1:21:10.040 --> 1:21:11.840 someone that could really use it. So whether that's a 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:15.599 family member or I would say something like a charity, 1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:18.800 like a school, maybe set this up for them. I 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:21.320 think there's a lot of charities and schools out there 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:25.040 that could use this and do that. Maybe a you know, 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:28.439 a church, religious organization that could use it, So that 1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:32.760 would be probably a great use of it. Otherwise, I mean, 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:35.559 you're not going to recycle this thing because it sounds 1:21:35.600 --> 1:21:38.840 like it's a really good device. So if you don't 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:40.639 want to donate it and you want to make money 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:42.120 off of it, maybe you could just use one of 1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:45.080 these sites like a you know, a Facebook marketplace or 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.880 a let go that or offer up that you could 1:21:48.320 --> 1:21:50.600 sell this thing, but of course you'd want to have 1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:52.920 all your personal information off of there. But since you're 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:55.479 building computers, I'm pretty sure you know how to delete 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:58.599 the information off of this thing. But that those are 1:21:58.680 --> 1:22:01.280 my options for an an old computer. In fact, it's 1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:04.120 funny Ryan that you asked this question because I have 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:07.360 an old laptop. So I just got a new laptop. 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:09.720 I gave my old one to my kid and then 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:12.080 his old one, which is still perfectly fine except for 1:22:12.120 --> 1:22:14.519 the battery. I've been trying to figure out a use 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:16.559 for it, and I've been wondering if I should set 1:22:16.600 --> 1:22:19.160 it up as a server or I'm not sure. 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:20.160 So it's a. 1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:24.040 Laptop, which doesn't necessarily make the best server in my opinion, 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:26.000 but I do need to back up some things, so 1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:29.040 I was thinking that that's what I might use it for. 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:32.880 So but otherwise, the other thing is I mentioned this 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:35.840 on the show, but Chrome os flex turns an older 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:38.680 computer into something that's more like a chromebook, so you 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:41.680 could look into something like that. So there are a 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:45.280 lot of ways to do this, and just depends. Since 1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:47.840 this is a big, powerful computer, you might want to 1:22:47.880 --> 1:22:50.560 place it in the hands of someone that knows the 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.200 power of that computer and can do something good with it. 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:57.000 So great question. Thanks so much for calling in today, Ryan, 1:22:57.040 --> 1:23:01.639 appreciate you watching me on KTLA. Apple and Google teaming 1:23:01.760 --> 1:23:06.920 up to address unwanted tracking with devices like air tags. 1:23:07.439 --> 1:23:11.080 So this is a new proposal that they are putting 1:23:11.120 --> 1:23:15.200 out there to the industry to build into iOS and 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:19.200 Android a set of standards that would be able to 1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:24.679 use and alert users about all of these different trackers 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:26.760 out there. So, whether it's a Samsung, whether it's a 1:23:26.880 --> 1:23:31.680 Tile Chipolo, Ufi Security, Pebbleby haven't even heard of that one, 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:35.160 all of these devices, if they were near you, your 1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:38.400 phone would alert you, and you know, not just instantly, 1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:41.160 but after a while of it tracking you. So the 1:23:41.280 --> 1:23:44.200 problem is with these air tags, they're so popular. If 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:45.800 you have an iPhone, it tells you that there's an 1:23:45.840 --> 1:23:48.360 unwanted one yearby do you have an Android, it doesn't 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:50.599 tell you that. So now these two companies are working 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:53.240 together hopefully by the end of the year, no matter 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:56.200 which air tag is on you by accident or you know, 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:59.240 if someone's using it for stalking, your phone would alert you. 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:02.280 Smart Thanks Apple and Google for working together on this. 1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:05.719 You're listening to Rich on Tech coming up, Aura Frames 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:10.920 up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:13.480 here hanging out with you talking technology. 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:15.080 You know. 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:18.520 In addition to the radio, I am on KTLA Television 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:21.719 in Los Angeles, and of course you can watch live 1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:25.760 in the mornings when I'm on, but if you're not here, 1:24:26.040 --> 1:24:29.560 you can watch my TV segments online. I cover a 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:34.479 variety of consumer tech topics. Just like this show. It's fun, 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:39.400 it's visual, it's interesting. I feel like it's always good information. 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:41.280 I mean, I'm the one making it, so I hope 1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:44.200 it is. Just go to rich on Tech dot tv 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:47.599 and you can click to see all of my TV segments. 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:49.920 We also have them on YouTube as well, so there's 1:24:49.920 --> 1:24:51.960 a YouTube playlist I'll link up on the website so 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:54.680 you can subscribe to that and watch them there. All right, 1:24:54.680 --> 1:24:57.680 I'm excited for my next guest because Aura Frames is 1:24:57.760 --> 1:24:59.960 one of my favorite gadgets, and every time I mention 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:03.680 on TV, people say, Rich this is the best thing 1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:06.200 I've ever purchased. It's so easy. It's a digital frame 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:09.559 that you can display your pictures on. But it's super 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:12.439 easy to get your pictures on the frame because you 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:15.760 can send them right from your phone, via email or 1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:19.680 using the app. So let's bring up Josh hourback here. 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:23.080 Coo of Aura frames. Josh, thanks for joining me. 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:25.639 It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:29.439 Okay. So how do you describe what Aura frames are? 1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:31.920 I described it in my way, but you describe it 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:32.360 your way. 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:36.320 Yeah, and I thought your way was terrific when I 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:41.280 think about it. Aura is a really good Wi Fi 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:45.960 connected digital picture frame, and so you can take each 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:49.880 of those in part. But I think for people who 1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:54.160 have a lot of pictures around their house in you know, 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:57.880 old fashioned printed photos. So the first part is it's 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.160 a digital picture frame. Those have been around for twenty 1:26:01.280 --> 1:26:05.040 something years, right. The second is that it's Wi Fi connected, 1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:07.800 so that it connects to the Internet and you can 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:10.960 add photos to it from anywhere in the world, and 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:13.560 those have been around maybe for ten years. And the 1:26:13.640 --> 1:26:16.760 third is that it's really good, right, And we pay 1:26:16.760 --> 1:26:20.000 a lot attention to the little details, the picture quality 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:23.160 and the quality of the groom itself, and so that's 1:26:23.240 --> 1:26:24.960 what that's what's important to us. 1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:28.759 So if you remember now you said that digital frames 1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:30.320 have been around for I think you said, do you 1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:31.960 say twenty years, but it's been a while. 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:34.600 Yeah, yeah, I think they came out in the in 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:35.559 the nineteen nineties. 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:38.919 So I remember when everyone got one of these, including myself. 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:42.920 We gifted our in laws and my mom one of 1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:46.000 these frames. And here's how it worked. You would load 1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:48.360 up the frame by putting pictures on like a USB 1:26:48.600 --> 1:26:50.519 drive and then pop that into the back of the frame. 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:52.880 And I can guarantee you that I have millions of 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:55.360 these frames that were sold back in the day. They 1:26:55.400 --> 1:26:58.040 were updated exactly once when they were gifted, and you 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:00.040 never had new pictures, and that's where. 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:04.720 Exactly and I think I had won myself. I had 1:27:04.800 --> 1:27:07.839 a standalone I think it was a Kodak digital camera 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:10.600 in the very late nineties, and I had one of 1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:13.639 those frames that used I think it was a compact 1:27:13.760 --> 1:27:18.240 flash card whatever those were called way back. Yeah, and uh, 1:27:18.400 --> 1:27:20.799 And you're exactly right, and they were. They were actually 1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:25.000 a pretty big business for a very brief moment in time, 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:28.519 and then they all got dusty and the pictures got stale, 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:30.800 and they all got thrown out. 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:31.080 Right. 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:33.080 There was a there was a boom and then a 1:27:33.160 --> 1:27:37.439 bus in this sector. And I think what really changed, 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:42.880 obviously the technology got better and the image quality got better, 1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:46.920 but what really mattered was the advent of ubiquitous. 1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:49.439 Wi Fi mm hm. And so these Aura frames, you've 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:52.240 got several different models, you know, they're all digital, they 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:55.439 all have different kind of features, but the main thing 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:58.360 is the ease of which you can get photos to 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:02.120 these frames. And so, for instance, my in laws we 1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:05.720 gifted them one, and I can have the app on 1:28:05.840 --> 1:28:08.280 my phone that displays you know that I can send 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:11.720 photos to their frame. But also my sister in law 1:28:11.800 --> 1:28:13.360 and brother in law can have the app on their 1:28:13.439 --> 1:28:17.040 phone and also send pictures to this frame. And I've 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:19.679 noticed it's almost like a little friendly competition of whenever 1:28:19.760 --> 1:28:22.120 I get a notification that says that they send pictures, 1:28:22.160 --> 1:28:24.720 I'm like, oh, I should send some pictures now. Do 1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:26.120 you find that happens with people? 1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:28.720 Yeah, and that the. 1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:34.800 Business itself. One of the things that I love most 1:28:34.920 --> 1:28:38.320 about it is that you very often find that someone 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:43.160 will buy one for, you know, their parents one year, 1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:47.920 for the holidays or for Mother's Day, and they'll start 1:28:48.000 --> 1:28:54.439 sending pictures and then they realize, you know, the their 1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:56.880 siblings have started to add pictures to it. But then 1:28:56.960 --> 1:28:58.920 they go and buy one for their in laws and 1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:01.960 then the siblings I want for their in laws. Yeah, 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:05.840 it just goes out from you know, from family to family, 1:29:05.880 --> 1:29:08.920 and we have cases, I think the biggest where it 1:29:09.000 --> 1:29:12.360 had gone across a hundred families, going from in lost 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:18.439 and lost and laws. You know, these crazy excitement that 1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:21.800 people have for this product. Again, you know, as you said, 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:24.920 you can add photos to it from anywhere and people 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:26.040 just love that. 1:29:26.880 --> 1:29:28.960 And you don't, you know, if you're thinking like, ah, 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:30.840 that's too complicated, I'm not going to be able to 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.080 use an app to send them. I mean, at the base, 1:29:33.720 --> 1:29:36.360 you can send them through email. So this each frame 1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:39.280 has sort of like a personalized email address that you 1:29:39.400 --> 1:29:41.880 can just send the photo to that email address and 1:29:41.920 --> 1:29:43.160 it will show up on that frame. 1:29:43.360 --> 1:29:45.120 Correct, that's right, that's right. 1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:50.360 And for people who think this is somewhat exotic or different, 1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:54.280 it is very simple to use. And that's part I 1:29:54.360 --> 1:29:57.600 think of why the product has become so popular is 1:29:57.680 --> 1:30:01.200 that whether you're sending a picture to it from your 1:30:01.240 --> 1:30:06.040 phone via email or you use the app, it's extremely 1:30:06.120 --> 1:30:10.400 easy to send pictures to it. And the difference is, 1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:13.479 you know, if you send a photo to someone in 1:30:13.600 --> 1:30:16.400 a text message or I message. They'll see it once, right, 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:19.280 maybe it'll scroll back to it, but it almost immediately 1:30:19.840 --> 1:30:23.120 disappears from the screen. And if you send it to 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:27.000 their Aura, they can see it every day. And that's magic, 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:32.320 particularly with parents' grandparents, those kinds of things where people 1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:35.120 get these pictures and they really would treasure them if 1:30:35.160 --> 1:30:38.679 they could treasure them, and that's what that's what Aura does. 1:30:38.960 --> 1:30:40.759 Yeah, it's kind of fun too. When you're on vacation, 1:30:40.960 --> 1:30:43.240 you can send a photo directly to the frame, like 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:44.680 we did that. We were in Hawaii a couple of 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:47.799 weeks ago and we were sending pictures from our vacation 1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:50.640 right to the frame. Instead of text messaging, we just 1:30:50.720 --> 1:30:52.240 sent them to the frame. And it's kind of fun 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:54.560 because you know that our in laws are sitting in 1:30:54.600 --> 1:30:56.120 their kitchen all of a sudden they see this new 1:30:56.160 --> 1:30:58.559 picture pop up and like, oh, that's cool, that's brand new. 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:02.280 Let's talk about some of the new features. No, sure, 1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:04.800 let's talk about some of the new features. So you've 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:08.120 got this colorizer feature which will take a black and 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:11.800 white or a sepia image and colorize it. 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:15.200 That's right, that's right, and it's very easy to do 1:31:15.439 --> 1:31:18.320 so I was using this actually earlier today. I had 1:31:18.320 --> 1:31:23.000 a picture of one of my aunts and it was 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:25.040 in black and white. It was taken back in the forties, 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:29.439 and I did sort of the most simple thing, which 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:31.920 is that I took a picture of the picture. Right, 1:31:32.040 --> 1:31:33.960 It couldn't be much easier. I take a picture of 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.120 the picture with my phone and then you see three 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:40.160 little circles in the corner and you just tap on 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:43.479 that and say colorized, and it adds just a little 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:46.400 bit of color to the picture. And it's a nice 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:51.320 It makes it seem a little bit more alive. I 1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:52.280 really enjoy it. 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:56.240 What about this feature that restores old photos? So tell 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:57.400 me about that. Is that similar? 1:31:57.760 --> 1:32:01.120 Yeah, yes, same kind of thing. And you'll have a 1:32:01.560 --> 1:32:04.160 picture that has a tear in it or a scratch 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:07.760 something like that, and this just applies the you know 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:10.599 a little bit of retouching to get rid of those 1:32:10.760 --> 1:32:11.640 kinds of scratches. 1:32:11.720 --> 1:32:11.840 You know. 1:32:12.320 --> 1:32:15.639 So much of what we do at AURA, we try 1:32:15.800 --> 1:32:22.640 to use some high technology, some you know, fancy algorithm 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:24.880 behind the scenes, but we want it to be very 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:28.880 easy to use and essentially to make the technology aspect 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:31.479 of it disappear. And this works exactly the same way 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:31.760 about it. 1:32:32.000 --> 1:32:32.840 It's just one tap. 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:35.360 It makes your photo look a little bit better of 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:38.479 the you know, the end goal essentially is to let 1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:42.479 you enjoy your photos a little bit better than you 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:44.240 would have been able to otherwise. 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:46.679 And I love the idea. I never really thought about 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:48.840 scanning the photos from the app because I just think 1:32:48.880 --> 1:32:51.240 about adding them for my camera role. But yeah, there's 1:32:51.240 --> 1:32:53.519 a little scanner icon in the upper right hand corner 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:55.880 when you say add photos. And so if you're at 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:58.920 say your grandma's house or your family member's house, you 1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:01.000 can and you see a that you want that's on 1:33:01.040 --> 1:33:03.040 their wall, that you want on your frame, just take 1:33:03.080 --> 1:33:04.599 a scan of it and add it's your own frame, 1:33:04.640 --> 1:33:05.639 which is kind of cool too. 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:06.840 Yeah. 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:10.080 Yeah, And that's a very very common use case, and 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:12.280 it's a way you don't have to go through a 1:33:12.360 --> 1:33:15.599 lot of effort and the qualities you leave the quality 1:33:15.680 --> 1:33:18.120 is fine. And again what it brings to you is 1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:20.479 is the smile that you get from seeing that picture. 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:20.760 Again. 1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:24.320 So the top selling frame is the Carver Matt and 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:28.519 this is regularly one eighty. Right now it's one fifty 1:33:28.680 --> 1:33:31.200 for a Mother's Day deal. Then you've got the Mason 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:34.240 which is one eighty, which is a nine inch screen. 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:37.080 And then you've got the Mason Lux which is the 1:33:37.280 --> 1:33:39.799 highest photo clarity, so that has a two K display 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:42.880 that's two twenty nine. But I think most people will 1:33:42.880 --> 1:33:45.200 be happy with any of these, obviously, whatever's in their 1:33:45.200 --> 1:33:49.280 price range. I also notice that, and I also. 1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:51.640 Know that you guys are We focus a lot on 1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:55.400 image quality, and so whichever one you buy, you're going 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:56.160 to be happy with the. 1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:57.240 Way the pictures look on it. 1:33:57.560 --> 1:33:59.240 And I noticed last time I was in Costco, I 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:01.200 saw them in there, and I thought that was pretty neat. 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:05.840 Yes, yeah, we've got a great partnership with Costco, and 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:10.679 you know, it's a terrific product for that for that's 1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:11.240 kind of store. 1:34:11.640 --> 1:34:14.160 All right, Josh, anything else you want to add before 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:14.840 we head out here. 1:34:16.040 --> 1:34:19.160 No, I mean, I think this is a terrific gift 1:34:19.320 --> 1:34:22.880 for Mother's Day. People really love it, and I think 1:34:22.960 --> 1:34:24.920 that's what makes my job so rewarding. 1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:28.680 All right, Josh auerback from Aura Frames. I'll put a 1:34:28.760 --> 1:34:33.320 link on my website at richon tech dot TV. Thanks 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:35.000 so much for joining me today, Josh, appreciate it. 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:37.040 Thank you, Rich Bye. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:41.599 Okay, these frames, I mean it's just such a great gift. 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:44.479 So if you're looking for something for Mother's Day, I mean, 1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:46.960 this is one of those things, or any day. I mean, honestly, 1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:49.599 these things. Every time I talk about this thing on TV, 1:34:49.760 --> 1:34:52.479 people just go wild over it because it's something that 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:54.640 you kind of remember from back in the day, like 1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:57.320 we all had this digital frame. But once you get 1:34:57.360 --> 1:35:00.360 that ease of Wi Fi, it is really really nice. 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:02.560 And I think Aura what sets them apart from some 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:04.519 of the other frames that I've tested is really just 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:08.000 the quality of not only the frame, but also the 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:11.760 app and the way that you get your information to 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:14.200 that frame. So again I'll put a link to Aura 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:17.920 Frames on my website. Rich on Tech dot TV. All right, 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:19.920 coming up, I can't believe it. We're gonna close out. 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:20.559 The show. 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:24.040 Eight to eight rich one, oh one, if we can 1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:26.280 sneak in one more question here, but otherwise I'll tell 1:35:26.280 --> 1:35:28.599 you some more things happening in the tech world coming 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:35.240 up after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:40.560 Demiro here talking technology with you. If you can believe it, 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:42.519 it's the end of the show. I can't believe it. 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:45.200 It's three hours and it goes too fast. I don't 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:47.400 know how that happens. There's just so many tech things 1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:49.919 to talk about every week, and of course your questions, 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:51.680 I'm gonna try to get through some of the things 1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:55.960 I wanted to tell you about this week. Airbnb, let's 1:35:56.000 --> 1:35:59.400 talk about them. They are introducing over fifty new features 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:03.320 based on feedback. Airbnb sort of started out as this 1:36:03.760 --> 1:36:07.160 darling and then there's been sort of a backlash because 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:09.600 people complain that it's just as expensive as staying at 1:36:09.640 --> 1:36:12.000 a hotel. The list of things you have to do 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:14.599 when you check out are just too much, and all 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:16.720 the fees and all that kind of stuff has just 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:20.080 gotten kind of out of control. And so Airbnb obviously 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:22.880 knows that travel is ticking up and there's gonna be 1:36:22.920 --> 1:36:24.360 a lot of options out there, so they want to 1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:27.960 compete once again. So they've got these fifty different features 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:32.160 and upgrades that address some of these pain points. But 1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:36.719 the main one is really the new feature called rooms 1:36:36.880 --> 1:36:40.040 Airbnb Rooms, and Airbnb is saying that this is going 1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:42.920 to make travel a lot cheaper, a lot more affordable. 1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:45.200 They say eighty percent of private rooms are under one 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:47.280 hundred dollars a night, with an average rate of sixty 1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:49.800 seven dollars a night, and so they're pitching kind of 1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:52.800 like back to the basics, Like Airbnb started out as 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:55.559 people renting rooms in their homes, and they're saying, look, 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:57.640 this is still a great way to travel and a 1:36:57.760 --> 1:37:00.960 very inexpensive way to travel, and so we get it. 1:37:01.120 --> 1:37:03.400 It's kind of scary to stay with a random person, 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:07.280 but they're trying to make it more approachable, and so 1:37:07.360 --> 1:37:10.479 they have this new thing called the host Passport, and 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:13.280 the host passport lets you get to know the person 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:16.040 that you're staying with, and so they have all kinds 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:18.120 of fun things on there, like what they like to do, 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.960 fun facts, where they went to school, what they do 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.800 for work. There's larger pictures so you can get an 1:37:23.840 --> 1:37:26.080 idea of who this person is before you stay with them. 1:37:26.439 --> 1:37:27.880 And I'm not saying you're staying in their room. I 1:37:27.960 --> 1:37:30.519 mean it's a private room in their home. But they 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:33.679 also have filters that let you see, does this private 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:36.120 room have a bathroom? Does this private room have a 1:37:36.200 --> 1:37:38.960 lock on the door. So again, I mean, look, there's 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:40.479 a time and a place for everything. And I think 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:42.920 that some people will say, no way, I'll never do that, 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:44.880 But there's a lot of people that will say yeah, 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:46.280 it's kind of fun. And I was looking at some 1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:48.400 of the listings and some of these people, you know, 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.400 they like one of the people was like an executive 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:54.320 at uber, you know, and it's like they're they've rented 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:56.719 for like years and it's like, Okay, well, I'd feel 1:37:56.880 --> 1:37:59.439 comfortable staying with them. But again, it depends on your 1:37:59.520 --> 1:38:01.840 level of for with this kind of stuff. Some of 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:04.320 the other improvements total price, you can see what the 1:38:04.400 --> 1:38:08.880 price is with fees before taxes, the checkout, you can 1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:12.200 see the checkout instructions before you book, because sometimes these 1:38:12.280 --> 1:38:15.880 checkout instructions could be I always joke like, you know, 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:19.160 can you please organize my photo collection before you check out? 1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:23.320 It's like that seems a little unreasonable. You can also 1:38:23.360 --> 1:38:26.160 see if people are getting low ratings for unreasonable chores, 1:38:26.400 --> 1:38:29.800 you'll be removed from Airbnb, and then if you stay 1:38:29.840 --> 1:38:33.320 over three months, the service fee will be a lot cheaper. 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:35.760 And then they also have this new dedicated twenty four 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:39.040 to seven support team which can give you priority access 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:40.599 when you're on a trip, so if you need help 1:38:40.640 --> 1:38:43.000 while you're on the trip, you can get someone more easily. 1:38:43.120 --> 1:38:46.839 So Airbnb doing a bunch of stuff there on your iPhone. 1:38:46.880 --> 1:38:51.040 This week, you probably saw this Rapid Security Response update. Yeah, 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.800 this is brand new. So this is if you know 1:38:53.840 --> 1:38:56.479 about the iPhone updates, they can be a chore. They 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.599 can take a really long time to install. So now 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:02.400 they have this thing with iOS sixteen called Rapid Security 1:39:02.439 --> 1:39:07.400 Response Security Response. These are updates that address pressing issues 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:09.760 on the iPhone, like security issues that are pretty major, 1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:12.680 but you can install them very rapidly and quickly and 1:39:12.840 --> 1:39:15.600 without a major restart most of the time. Now, this 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:18.880 week's did require a restart, but in the future they 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:22.160 may not, so these are much more smaller updates. You'll 1:39:22.200 --> 1:39:25.559 know because it'll say Rapid Security Response and it will 1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:29.800 also not have to reboot most of the time, so 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:32.439 you should feel comfortable installing these. You'll know that it's 1:39:32.479 --> 1:39:35.120 a rapid response when it has the letter A at 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.600 the end, so or I'm not sure if it's just 1:39:37.720 --> 1:39:39.920 a letter A or if it's going to be a 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:42.000 letter at the end of it. So you'll know that 1:39:42.080 --> 1:39:43.880 it's a rapid response when it has a letter. But 1:39:43.960 --> 1:39:45.960 go ahead and install it. It's safe. That's what that's 1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:49.800 all about. Meanwhile, in Google, you might start noticing blue 1:39:49.960 --> 1:39:53.800 checks blue check marks next to a sender's name is 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:58.200 This is to signify that the sender is verified, and 1:39:58.320 --> 1:40:00.120 so I think this is pretty smart. With all all 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:02.640 the phishing emails out there. You'll probably notice this if 1:40:02.640 --> 1:40:04.600 you open up an email and it comes from a 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:08.720 big brand like Amazon. I also noticed it for a 1:40:08.800 --> 1:40:11.479 financial website. It will have a blue check mark. You 1:40:11.520 --> 1:40:13.760 can hover over the blue check mark to make sure 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:17.000 that that is a legitimate sender. You're also going to 1:40:17.040 --> 1:40:21.760 have this enabled on personal Google accounts soon, so that's 1:40:21.800 --> 1:40:23.720 a smart thing, So look for that blue check mark. 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:27.960 Let's see here. I'm getting to the feedback section. Now, 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:31.760 let's get to Dave. Dave says, hey, Rich, I love 1:40:31.800 --> 1:40:34.000 the show. You're doing a wonderful job. I'm addicted and 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:37.240 your topics each week are terrific. Well, thank you, Dave. 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:39.920 Last week you had a caller with questions about adding 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:42.800 Android Auto to an older vehicle. This is what I 1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:45.519 used in my twenty twelve Toyota Prius and it works great. 1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:47.920 It's all wireless, except the head unit needs some power. 1:40:48.000 --> 1:40:50.639 It's plugged into the RCA jack to get the sound 1:40:50.720 --> 1:40:53.320 out into the car radio. Hence the two wires on 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:56.080 the left side, and he sent a little picture. The 1:40:56.200 --> 1:40:58.960 mount is the CD slot, which of course I don't use, 1:40:59.000 --> 1:41:02.880 and it's totally stable. The company is car Pride from China. 1:41:03.240 --> 1:41:06.320 The service and shipping were excellent. I highly recommend I've 1:41:06.360 --> 1:41:10.280 had no issues so far. Why replace the entire radio 1:41:10.400 --> 1:41:14.479 if it's not needed? Thanks Dave, Dave, thanks for the feedback. 1:41:14.520 --> 1:41:17.880 That's excellent. It looks like a good installation. I like it, 1:41:18.000 --> 1:41:19.479 and I love how you have it mounted on top 1:41:19.479 --> 1:41:22.479 of the CD player because you don't need that. Let's 1:41:22.520 --> 1:41:25.200 see here. Hey, rich Dan says, I heard your thoughts 1:41:25.200 --> 1:41:27.280 about the ring dash cam. I have one that I 1:41:27.360 --> 1:41:29.320 pre ordered at a discount, but I haven't hooked it up. 1:41:29.320 --> 1:41:31.720 I'm not thrilled about paying six dollars a month. All 1:41:31.800 --> 1:41:34.839 these subscriptions add up. I can't afford a subscription for everything. 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:37.320 Your comment on the battery drain has me thinking I 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:40.280 only drive fifteen minutes to and from work. I'm thinking 1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:43.240 that maybe not enough time to charge my vehicle battery. 1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:46.400 I have an outdoor wireless wisecam that lasts about three 1:41:46.400 --> 1:41:48.360 months on the battery. I've been wishing for that in 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:51.240 a dash cam. Where I parked there is Wi Fi 1:41:51.600 --> 1:41:53.280 so the camera can alert me when I'm home. And 1:41:53.320 --> 1:41:55.559 maybe that's not the perfect solution, but if the camera 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:57.960 would keep recorded events on a memory card until we 1:41:58.040 --> 1:41:59.840 get back to Wi Fi, then that would be a 1:42:00.400 --> 1:42:02.920 I'd love Thanks for the info, Dan. Yeah, I have 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:05.800 a feeling that Wise could really do a good dash 1:42:05.880 --> 1:42:09.320 cam because Wyse is a very smart company, and I 1:42:09.400 --> 1:42:12.000 think that's a great solution. Instead of paying that subscription, 1:42:12.479 --> 1:42:15.080 they would just record continuously on a loop. Then when 1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:18.240 you get to your Wi Fi, the camera would go 1:42:18.360 --> 1:42:22.000 ahead and upload those clips to the cloud. So Wyse 1:42:22.040 --> 1:42:24.320 has done some great things over the years. Very very 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:27.320 good company. I love them. Thanks for the feedback, all right, 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:29.439 if you have feedback for the show, Hello at rich 1:42:29.520 --> 1:42:32.800 on tech dot TV. All right, I'm Rich Demiro. That's 1:42:32.840 --> 1:42:34.880 gonna do it for this episode, can you believe it? 1:42:35.000 --> 1:42:37.920 Next week, I'm headed to Google Io. We're gonna have 1:42:37.960 --> 1:42:41.160 new foldable phones, probably plans for AI and much more. 1:42:41.479 --> 1:42:43.200 So be sure to check out the show next week 1:42:43.240 --> 1:42:46.200 when I give you the whole update from Google Io. 1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:48.840 You can find me on social media. 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