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Speaker 2: No, but Hawk cares about this stuff. Taylor is laughing

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Speaker 1: But no, that didn't. It didn't surprise me at all.

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00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: It's not it's it's similar to Pat McAfee, where you're

435
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: doing something different and it capture an audience that maybe

436
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: hadn't been captured before by a certain medium or market.

437
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: And so no, I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't surprised

438
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: by it at all.

439
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: Okay, Hawk is serious, like Hawk respects what producers have

440
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 2: to do. And so now that I'm thinking back to

441
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: the notion of you just putting your name on a

442
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: show without asking, Dan, But you take this stuff so seriously.

443
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: You know, you just put your producer's name on your show.

444
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: During the oral history I did. I did. Yes. Solana's

445
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: the producer of my radio show with Crowder, and he

446
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: had been doing it for six years and.

447
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: He's so talk Crowder and Solana. He never case with

448
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: a consideration. He never he never came to me and

449
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: said I want that. But I did notice and learn.

450
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: This is part of being an adult though, you learn

451
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: from past experience and the truth of the matter is,

452
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: and I told it to him, But I'm probably hastening

453
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: my own demise in radio because now that his name

454
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: is on the show, it's gonna make it much easier

455
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: for Odyssey one day to take my name off it

456
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: because you're not losing one host out of two. You

457
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: would be losing one out of three. But Solana he

458
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: earned it like he earned it, and it's that's a

459
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: worthy reward. It's something you wanted to do. He's very

460
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: similar to what I was doing, which is he is

461
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: the third voice on the show and he's really good

462
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: and when he's not there, it's super noticeable to me. Yes,

463
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: and so he earned that. So yeah, I put his

464
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: name on the show. What was I saying though I

465
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: was gonna say something, Man, what did you just bring up?

466
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: Fifty five?

467
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: Man?

468
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know. Well, let's think about it

469
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: for a second. I had a really salient point.

470
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: This is this is not like this. Listen, we're not

471
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: doing live radio here. This can all be edited out. Yeah,

472
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: there's no Corehl springs on the all spot coming coming

473
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: up here. What were we talking about? What was the

474
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: thing that I said? I don't know that it means

475
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: a lot to you, Solana producer putting your name on

476
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: the show.

477
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not going to join you. No, No, I

478
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't recall.

479
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna call me at eleven o'clock tonight. I remember

480
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: speaking of eleven o'clock.

481
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: You you were telling.

482
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: You were telling me you had a late night on Monday,

483
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: which a late night for you is a state dinner

484
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: and some black jaess, So.

485
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: This is legitimately a late night. So I went to

486
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: u Nyy Steak place. Yeah, I'd never been there before,

487
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: and I went with several people, and I ate you know,

488
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm a big avocado toast guy, so I like my

489
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: avocado toast and my coffee in the morning. I'm a

490
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: big snacker though at night that's my that's my week one,

491
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I can sit and eat cheese, it's all night long,

492
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: and I'm the happiest guy on the planet, like you.

493
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: But we go to Nyy Steak and I had We

494
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: had this bacon appetizer and it's just like big thick

495
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: cuts of bacon hanging off the slab, and the bacon

496
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: grease is dripping into a corn bread on the bottom

497
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: of it, which is there to absorb the bacon grease

498
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: and make the corn bread taste even better, as if

499
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: corn bread needs help, but it makes it even better.

500
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: And then had caesar salad. Then we had a filet

501
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: and we had all the sides, mac and cheese and cream,

502
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: corn cream, spin it, garlic, mashed potatoes. Then they bring

503
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: out this dessert. They have a you Who float Well,

504
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: I fucking love you Who. No one loves you Who

505
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: the way that I do. I love you Who You Who.

506
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: You can put People think it's a dairy drink and

507
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: it's not. It is chocolate water. I'm not kidding it.

508
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: You can put you Who in a cabinet, a pantry

509
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: and let it sit there for three years. Shake it

510
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. It will taste as good as any

511
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: you who you've ever had. Tried doing that with a

512
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: chocolate milk. It's not gonna work out. There's no dairy

513
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: in you. I happen to love you, and so they

514
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: bring out this you who float. But in the meantime,

515
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm already busting at the seams. So we have that.

516
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Then I have a cup of coffee. Well, if you're

517
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: fifty five and you have a cup of coffee after

518
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: eleven PM, all asleep Because I take an ambient every night,

519
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: I haven't missed ambient. You're still taking an ambient. Huh,

520
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: twelve years, I have not missed one night with ambien.

521
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: You used to tell me how much you hated ambient, though,

522
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you need it, you need to sleep,

523
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: I knowing I hated it. You know you make things up.

524
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: When did I ever tell you? I mean, I got

525
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: to tell you. This guy's dream was to be a

526
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: stand up comic.

527
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: He said. The way that he says it is so emphatic. Yeah,

528
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: it's like.

529
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: That you start questioning yourself like I'm responding to well,

530
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: I probably and I'm thinking I've never fucking said that

531
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: in my life like but he says it.

532
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: With such confidence that you begin to.

533
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Think, now that I think about it, you never said

534
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: it to me once, my ambient. But anyway, Yes, I

535
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: ended up. I ended up coffee at eleven, just massive heartburn.

536
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: I had never had heart I never had heartburned till

537
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: about two three years ago when I went to University

538
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: of Miami. You know my roommate when I was a freshman,

539
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: was I call him the ticket Wizzard on our show.

540
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call Barry on your show?

541
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Fake fake Howard, Fake Howard. Yes, fake Howard was my

542
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: college roommate. And he was fifty five when he was eighteen.

543
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: And so we're in our dorm room. This is no joke.

544
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: This is my first week away from home. I grew

545
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: up in Chicago and I'm at the University of Miami.

546
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the Pearson dorms and Barry's in one bed,

547
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm in another. One looks like a like a cell block.

548
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's just like cinderblock walls. And I'm hearing

549
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: this at night as I'm trying to go sleep, and

550
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: so finally I go, hey, what are you doing. He's like, oh,

551
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: I have heartburn, and so that kind of clears it up. Well,

552
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm like this eighteen year old naive kid, and I'm

553
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: like heartburn.

554
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: Like I thought heartburn was on commercials, Like I didn't

555
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: think people really got heartburn.

556
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: And this guy was supposedly my peer. I'm like heartburn.

557
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: Fast forward, you know, thirty five years or forty years.

558
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm in bed the other night, and so I'm up

559
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: all night because Stugts was like, oh, coming in early

560
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: because I still got to do my radio show today.

561
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, come in early, and I'm like, man,

562
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep at all, but I literally was up heartburns.

563
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I had the you who Float reverse, so that it

564
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: was you know, you who float coming in, so you

565
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: who Float going out? It was it was rough, just

566
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: because I don't normally eat that way. The food there

567
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: was fantastic. So you were in bed by eleven? I

568
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: was no, but we went we gambled afterwards. Oh okay.

569
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: So when they have a nice little smoke free pavilion

570
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: at the UH at the Cypress Creek Casino, what time

571
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: did you get home? Uh?

572
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Probably about one. That's about one. That's that is that's

573
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: a late Pridia hug.

574
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: My wife's out of town, so I figured I should

575
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: be doing something, which I got. I got wacky, and

576
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: I paid for it. Man, he's Billy Taylor. I paid

577
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: for it. Oh my god.

578
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: But you swore off food because you were so full

579
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: from the night before. So you told me, and you've

580
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: done this to me before. Now this I am saying

581
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: with convictions, Yes you are. I am never eating again.

582
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: And you said that to me after your steak dinner

584
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: that night and then last night. All right, so I'm

585
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: going back two nights ago. That's when HAWK had the

586
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: steak dinner. Last night, you sent me a video after

587
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: swearing yourself off of food forever, you send me a

588
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: picture of you and your son having a Pepperoni pizza.

589
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's here's what happened. So I holy shit,

590
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: your son is good. Look at these.

591
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: These are the moments that I had looking. Kid tailor

592
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: I go through is great looking. Kid got his mom

593
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: and I only wish he had my sense of humor.

594
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't have your hair, Thank god. I don't have

595
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: my hair.

596
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: You haven't had your hair since I met you. It's

597
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: my hair? Wait? Is it hot? In here?

598
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: On?

599
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: Listen? We have been here for a month.

600
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Brand Star Studios, the nicest studios I've ever been in

601
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: my entire life. Every day max ac But I am

602
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: sweating through my shirt.

603
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm sweating like I.

604
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: Had a you who float three hours ago at the casino.

605
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there. I've gone through this before. I've

606
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: gone through this before, Like I struggle with my health

607
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: and my weight at times. I obviously, like anyone, I

608
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: feel much healthier when I'm eating better, and I feel

609
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: less healthy when i'm not, and when I'm fat and

610
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: I have man boobs, I you know. So I go

611
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: through my phases where I lose weight and I feel great,

612
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and then I get into these bad phases. And I

613
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: had been really good for the last like year and

614
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: a half, and since my son's been home from college,

615
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I've started to stray a little bit. But that was

616
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: the moment the other night, standing at the toilet, sweating,

617
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: taking and you know, tombs ant acids, you know it

618
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: just like looking like are you making this motion like

619
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: you were just talking.

620
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm just tossing them in my rep I am because

621
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: every time I lay down, everything that's in my stomach

622
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: is somehow ending up in my mouth. My wife used

623
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: to be a pharmaceutical rep and that was like nexium

624
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: in prilo sect. Those were her drugs, right, and and

625
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't tolerate them well, so I just do these

626
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: chewable ant acids, which really in the middle of the

627
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: nights like having a gummy bearer too, like it's delicious.

628
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: It's like a jelly bean, Like I gotta take a

629
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: jelly bean. Have you thought of your selling point? Not?

630
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: So I'm standing there and I'm thinking to myself, that's it.

631
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: You just hit the moment again where you know, you

632
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: hit the crescendo, and now you bring it back to earth.

633
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm done eating. I'm swearing off food because I don't

634
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: like feeling this way. And then the next day, my

635
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: son's home from college. And I don't know if you

636
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: have this with your daughters, but when he wants to

637
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: spend time, I'm with me. It's the greatest thing in

638
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: the world. Anytime you can get it, anytime I can

639
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: get it. And I had said to him, my wife's

640
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: out of town. I had said to him, Becau, there's

641
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: a new pizza place that opened right where we live

642
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: called Patsi's, which is a New York pizza place. It's

643
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: their first one outside of New York and it's fantastic pizza.

644
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: And he said, Hey, in the morning, He's like, hey,

645
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: we still going to Patsi's tonight because I had mentioned

646
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: it a couple days prior. And I was like, fuck, yeah,

647
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: We're going to Patsy's tonight after telling me you're never

648
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna eat again.

649
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I felt awful. But if you notice, the

650
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: pizza was half cheese, half pepperoni, and I love pepperoni, right,

651
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: but that's where I made my stay.

652
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: I was like, and they have a pizza which I

653
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: love there with vodka sauce which has a little cream

654
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: in it so too much. You know what, We'll just

655
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: get the original sauce and I'm going no pepperoni on

656
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: my side. It's practically like having a fucking salad. It's

657
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: not though it's pizza. Taylor's like, I can see how

658
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: this guy gets abrasive at times, because he was for

659
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. He's like, now I'm getting it. How

660
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: do you feel about the New York style?

661
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: It's a scam okay, Like every city has a place

662
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: where they say, hey, New York style pizza, but it's

663
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: not New York style pizza. That's what gets you into

664
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: the doors, that's what gets you, well, not me.

665
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: I love Chicago style pizza. That's why this Patsy's is

666
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: so remarkable.

667
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: And you're telling me it tastes like New York style pizza.

668
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: This Patsy does. But I don't want to run on

669
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: the side. I don't want to ruin a good deal.

670
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: You have got on telling you it just you have

671
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 2: a pizza name.

672
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: I do not.

673
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: But they it says like they started in Harlem in

674
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty three, and the pizza is fantastic.

675
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: It really is.

676
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: This segment has been sponsored by Patsy.

677
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Well done.

678
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: He wants to believe me. Nobody wants a pizza name.

679
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: They have to re more than Marcos Rusty. You cannot

680
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: speak on my behalf.

681
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Ever again, you cannot speak on my behalf, and you

682
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: cannot say what I've done it.

683
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: No one loves having food named. They have to read

684
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: more than mar Cox.

685
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: Actually that is true. That's true. That is true.

686
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: Hack the thing you were great at. I'm interested just

687
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: philosophically from a radio standpoint. You knew when you came

688
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: on board with us, and you've carried it forward. Into

689
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: what you're doing with Channing, with Channing on w q

690
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: A M and Selearra. I'm sorry, Solana, Solana, sorry, but

691
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: I know you love the show. I rate it what

692
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: I do.

693
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Listen, he's new, he's new to the title.

694
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: It's usually it was it was I gotta be honest,

695
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: hawkman and crowded was easier.

696
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: To other side.

697
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: He just got voted Miami New Times Sports Radio person.

698
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 2: Remember that used to mean everything does it still does?

699
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: What? Well?

700
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: The only way that I and there's no way it's

701
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: still meets Oh my god.

702
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: This the only reason fifty five, The only reason this

703
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: could have happened is voter fatigue. I am Nicola Jokic.

704
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: They were tired of voting the m v P every year.

705
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: This is my award. There's no way I didn't have

706
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: a better year of radio than Solana. But they gave

707
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: a little SGA thing and uh God bless him, he's

708
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: my teammate. I'm all for it, but that's a that's

709
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: definitely a result of voter fatigue.

710
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: The Hawk I know would say, listen, they offered me

711
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: the award. I told them to get it, and.

712
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: They would never give up an award.

713
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: You would never do you remember when those things meant

714
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: everything to us.

715
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I love that stuff, I really do love that. You

716
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: love local radio. I love local radio, and you'll I

717
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: love the medium, the medium get and again it's changed.

718
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend, you know, radio that it's

719
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: what it was in its heyday, But when I missed

720
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, radio personalities to me were celebrities. Yes,

721
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I listened to Steve Dahl and Kevin Matthews in Chicago,

722
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: and when I came to University of Miami, Phil Hendry

723
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: was a local radio host and and so these guys

724
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: to me were celebrities. They were They were as big

725
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: as any actor or entertainer in the entertainment industry. It's

726
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: changed a lot, but I happen to love radio. Radio

727
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: I always maintain is the only medium where people come

728
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: up to you and they go, can I get a T? Shirt?

729
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Like?

730
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Nobody goes up to Mike

731
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Kuno and says, can I get a Channel four T shirt?

732
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's like radio is

733
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: your friend, and you know, my wife always is amazing people.

734
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: Someone will come up to me in publics and go,

735
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: wait a second, you said, you don't buy double stuff Oreos,

736
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, they spend more time with me than

737
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: they do anyone, because you don't spend four hours talking

738
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: to your your friends or families. It's funny. I love

739
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: what radio can do. Same.

740
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: We had Bomani on a couple of weeks ago and

741
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: he he loves talk radio and local radio the way

742
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: you and I do, and he was saying, that's what

743
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: he misses. He misses the interaction. Some of those callers

744
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: became his friends and he no longer talks to them,

745
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: and it makes them sad, you know.

746
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: I find out I get that need fulfilled on social media.

747
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: And then when someone comes up to me at an

748
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: event and they're like, hey, I'm scam likely, I'm like

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: scam likely, and they're like, as big as celebrity intimacy

750
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: of this? Yeah, I love it. I mean they share,

751
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, whether whether it's there their betting ticket or

752
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you know what they did that week, And I love

753
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

754
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: But I like people right well, because you love it

755
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: and because you're a student of it and all those shows.

756
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: So it's Howard, it's I'mus, it's Neil Rogers, it's Phil Hendry,

757
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: you knew it was important, and you still know it's

758
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: important to build a community around the show. It's never

759
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: been more important to have a community around your show,

760
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: around around you know what it is you're doing. You

761
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: knew that early on, man, and so I'm what, like

762
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: for people out there, how did you go about building

763
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: that community? Well, because we didn't have a community until

764
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: you got The.

765
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: Funny thing is, I didn't really know that.

766
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: I thought radio really the hosts were supposed to be

767
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 2: on a pedestal and everyone else.

768
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: It was really Dan. I hate to give him credit,

769
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: but it was Dan who changed my entire line of

770
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: thinking on that. I did not notice that, right. That

771
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: was revelatory to me. And I've told this story before.

772
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: When we did an interview, I don't know who it

773
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: was with, but this was the birthplace of the SUI. Yeah,

774
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: he didn't interview. It was Luther Campbell. No, no, well,

775
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Luther Campbell was the guy who told us. Yeah, but

776
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: we did an interview that was terrible and it was

777
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: on you know, seven ninety the Ticket and it was

778
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: in the first couple of months of the show. And

779
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: Dan came on the air for the next segment and

780
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: he's like, well that was terrible. And I'm standing in

781
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: the back behind the glass and I'm going like, no, no, no, no,

782
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: you don't say that, and you know, and I wasn't.

783
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: I didn't speak on the mic back then or whatever.

784
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: We get to the next commercial break, he's like, why

785
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: are you waving me off? And I'm like, you don't

786
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: say that the interview was terrible, right, And he's like, well,

787
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: did you think it was good? And I said no,

788
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, I didn't think it was good, right.

789
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: He's like, so do you think the listeners, Like if

790
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: you don't think it was good and I don't think

791
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: it was good, you think the listeners are fooled by it,

792
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: like why don't we agnow it to them? And I'm like, well,

793
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: you don't acknowledge it. And he's like but.

794
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Why, And You're like, you're breaking radio rules exactly what

795
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: I did.

796
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: But I didn't know why I was following those rules,

797
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I also didn't have the cachet he had,

798
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: So if you didn't follow those rules, you'd lose your

799
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: radio job. And I'd studied that in college. I did

800
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: college radio, like I didn't want to lose my job,

801
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: and so It was revelatory to work with someone who

802
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: had more power than management and someone who was willing

803
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: to break the rules which now seemed common sense, like yeah,

804
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you acknowledge if something was terrible, if everyone

805
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: were trying to lie? And so then we would do

806
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: a great segment and he would say we should replay

807
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: that segment and I go, well, no, you can't do that,

808
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, what do you mean. So we

809
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: did something really good, it just disappears into the ether

810
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, and he's like, well, let's replay.

811
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: If we know it was really good, let's replay.

812
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 2: I used to tell Dan, when you have good, it's good,

813
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 2: and it's hard to create good and play it back.

814
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: No one had ever taken top was No one had

815
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: ever taken Top forty radio sensibilities and translated them to

816
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: talk radio Top forty radio. Because one of my internships

817
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: was at B ninety six in Chicago. I was a

818
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: music DJ, like that was my thing, that was the dream,

819
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: but we that was the dream, That was the dream.

820
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: Top forty radio is built on playing the same song

821
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: every forty to fifty minutes. I remember when MC hammer

822
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: you can't touch this came out I was I was

823
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: interning at B ninety six in Chicago. They had it

824
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: in rotation every forty minutes. And it's a pretty simple

825
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: mantra when it comes to hit radio, play the hits. Yeah,

826
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's but it's like super sensible play the hits,

827
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: So why not do it with us? So why not

828
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: do it with any content if you like? And and

829
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: so that was kind.

830
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: Of the listener habits are people are listening for twenty

831
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: minutes of a time. I might have missed it at

832
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: three o'clock, so we play it back at five.

833
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is if I go

834
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: see a concert, if I'm going, I have tickets to

835
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: see David Lee Roth because it's going to be a

836
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: train wreck. But I've never seen him with Van Halen

837
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: and so, but.

838
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: God forbid they play one of those songs that you're

839
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: not interested in.

840
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, god forbid he doesn't play Jump. If he

841
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: doesn't play Jump or Running with the Devil, like, I'm

842
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed. And so why wouldn't you translate that

843
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: to talk radio as well? Which is interesting the idea

844
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: of a benchmark obviously, but sometimes you can replay an

845
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: actual thing that happened, and sometimes you can replay it

846
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, even when people have

847
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: access to listen to it themselves, because now you can

848
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: have anything you want downloaded. So that was revelatory to me.

849
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: But I didn't know about building a community because I

850
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: didn't know radio could do that.

851
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: So it's interesting, actually, Dan, because you and I were

852
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: students of radio, wanted to be in radio.

853
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Dan did not. He was a journalist.

854
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: So actually his lack of knowledge of the radio industry

855
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: really helped us at our show.

856
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

857
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he broke to break all the roles, every norm.

858
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: He didn't know the rule correct.

859
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't bound by these mythical rules that I felt

860
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: bound by because I was a student of radio and

861
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: so that but that was that was hard. That was

862
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: really hard for me. When someone tells you everything you

863
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: believed to be true is not true, it takes a

864
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: while before that takes.

865
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: Howard was kind of doing that though, right, I mean, yes,

866
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: he was playing and Neil was certainly doing that.

867
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Howard Stern was playing eighteen minute stop sets when people

868
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: were told if you're if you're going an hour without

869
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: taking a commercial break and then playing all your commercials

870
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: at once. Everyone's gonna flee the radio station. They're gonna

871
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: start tuning out. And Howard was like, watch my ratings.

872
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: And Howard had Howard Stern had this thing where if

873
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: you tuned in, you were not flipping the dial, you

874
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: were not tuning out. Flipping the dial for you youngsters

875
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: was a big thing back then. You did.

876
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: We used to run promos on music stations that would

877
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: be ninety six point five, tune it in and rip

878
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: off the dial.

879
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: But that was the big thing. You needed fifteen minutes

880
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: in an hour or five minutes in a quarter hour

881
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: to get credit. And a lot of times ratings were

882
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: derived by diaries, people actually writing down the station. That's

883
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: why we're constantly saying the station. Now everything's digitally measured

884
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: in most major markets or whatever. But it's just it's

885
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: a different beast. But I was.

886
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: I was raised in all these mythical radio rules, and

887
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: to break them all felt, you know, you felt like

888
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: you were going against everything that you were raised.

889
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: It didn't feel good. It was the opposite for me

890
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: until I started to realize.

891
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Until you started to see, like the rewards breaking people are.

892
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: Coming out to meet us at places because we've become

893
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: such a big part of their rock stars.

894
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: Were you surprised by that? Like we would go out

895
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: to places because you've been to local radio hits. There's

896
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: five people out there in a prize wheel, how and

897
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: there'd be five hundred people.

898
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: Can't tell you the number of times that I would

899
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: stand with a wheel at a car dealer. I'd miss

900
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: a wheel, I mean, and where four people would show up,

901
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: none of them to see you, Just to get some Marlin.

902
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: I used to do when I was a music DJ

903
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: at Star ninety five point five, which is the Westbound

904
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Beach radio station, And I used to do a weekly

905
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: or monthly appearance at Port Saint Lucy Properties. So Port

906
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Saint Lucy was barely built up and they had built

907
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: all these new prefab homes and it would be come

908
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: meet Mark Cochman or Mark Elliott. I forget what I

909
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: was using at the time. Come meet Mark Elliott at

910
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: Port Saint Lucy Properties. It's a great Nascar name from

911
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: like it's my middle name. So it was like, uh,

912
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: do you remember our Nascar guy though? No, Greg Biffle,

913
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: that's our guy. That's our guy. Man. How didn't he

914
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: become our guy again. I'm sorry you and I ended up.

915
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: I think Dan had to leave, probably had to cover

916
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: something for the Harald whatever. I don't know what happened,

917
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: but somehow we had Greg Biffle.

918
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 2: We had we had Greg Biffle booked as a guest, right,

919
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know if we ever took

920
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: him on.

921
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what happened, but I know

922
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: you and I couldn't contain ourselves just Greg biff But

923
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: that's my guy, that's my favorite NASCAR driver of all time.

924
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: But it would be it would be come up to

925
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Port Saint Lucy Properties and meet Mark Elliott. This is

926
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: what radio was for ninety eight percent.

927
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: Of the people. There were people that obviously broke the mold,

928
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: but for ninety eight percent of the people, radio was

929
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: this me, Mark Elliott, the guy who kept you company

930
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: all night long on Star ninety five point five all

931
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: night long, and people would call in and they'd make

932
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: their request and I love the station, which you would

933
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: translate into your young head as I.

934
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Love you, you know, oh my god, this song is great.

935
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I love you guys, And it would be like they

936
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: love me, and it had nothing to do with me,

937
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: and then I would go stand out at Port Saint

938
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: Lucy properties to welcome people in because they were all

939
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: there to see me and maybe buy a new home

940
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: because they loved me so much. Yes, and this lady

941
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: comes up to me and she goes, you're the guy

942
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: from the radio, and I go yeah, she goes, you know,

943
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: look like I thought.

944
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: And that that was radio. That's radio. That was that

945
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: was radio. That's what I thought radio would be forever.

946
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Right, And then we showed up at the quarterdeck one night.

947
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, and I found it was something totally different,

948
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: but that that was radio. It's like, oh, well, that's

949
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: not what I expected.

950
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor, you have some questions here about the two days,

951
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: about mornings, about by the way hot Before we get

952
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: to these questions, just to get some sports in here.

953
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: If I told you.

954
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: Way back way that the Panthers would be back to

955
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: back Stanley Cup champions, make three consecutive Stanley Cups, there

956
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: was a time when we were mocking the Panthers on

957
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: our show. We spent no time discussing the Florida pants.

958
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: People don't remember the reason. They don't remember how bad

959
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: they were, the reason the Randy Mohler goal calls became

960
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: so popular. Yes, was we were contractually obligated because we

961
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: were the Panthers flagship station to do some Panthers talk.

962
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: And I believe we were contractually obligated because you negotiated

963
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: that because you got the Panthers right. And Dan was like, well,

964
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to do Panthers talk, and You're like, oh,

965
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: have Randy Molarn. He's a you know, former player, And

966
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: Dan's like, I don't want to have Randy Molarn.

967
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: And then this is going back to these are the

968
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: things you have to do.

969
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: In radio correct and like promoting the Don Struck Show.

970
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: So so we play some highlights of the game from

971
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: the night before. Randy Muller used to do the radio

972
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: play by play, and it was I'm trying to think

973
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: of who was somebody had a big pair, is like

974
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: David Booth had a big pair, Steven Wise has a

975
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: big pair, and we play one and then there was

976
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: one you know up high where Missus Mohler keeps the

977
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: peanut butter. And Dan was intrigued by those calls, and

978
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: so we started bringing on Moler and fed him movie

979
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: lines and show lines to do, which is I mean

980
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I do that now with Don Bailey Junior for the

981
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: Hurricanes podcasts. But that the reason that was birthed was

982
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: because you kept saying to Dan, we've got to do

983
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Panthers talk, and the Panthers pregame was coming after our show. Correct,

984
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: our show would end at seven, Panthers pregame would start.

985
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: But when you talk about the Panthers being back to

986
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: back Stanley Cup champions. So there was a time where

987
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: I would call Randy Mohler, he did everything for the

988
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: organization back then. I would say, hey, do you have

989
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: any tickets that we can give away for tonight. I'll

990
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: take the van out and uh, you know I'm going

991
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: to the game. I'll take the van and I would

992
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: park the van in the parking lot. It was free

993
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: to park at Panthers games.

994
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: By the way, it was still who had a huge

995
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: pair of Cory was Billy Pelton, and you did a

996
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: great job filling time there as I was looking that out.

997
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: So Moeler would give me a brick of tickets. I'm

998
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: talking several hundred tickets, and it was hey, if you

999
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: come out, park in the I don't know if it

1000
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: was the BB and T Center back then or Bank Atlantic.

1001
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but just park. There

1002
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: was no cost to park. Park. Come see the van.

1003
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: It's as you walk and I'll give you tickets. And

1004
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: when I tell you hundreds of tickets and fast forward

1005
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: to you know, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, when

1006
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: things really start to turn around. That's the most remarkable

1007
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: part of the run is remembering sitting there on a

1008
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday night with them playing Winnipeg and maybe they're being

1009
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred fans there like maybe, and if you

1010
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: dared to talk about the Panthers on the radio, you'd

1011
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: be laughed at, of course, So it's it's one the

1012
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: most remarkable, but it is such a testament to if

1013
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: you're a sports franchise. If you build a franchise that

1014
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: has sustained winning, where people believe, fans believe that you're

1015
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: invested in it for the long haul, they will gravitate

1016
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: towards it. And again it doesn't.

1017
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 2: Always you stop winning. They will leave, but they'll come back.

1018
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: And that happens any major market. It's okay, it's it's

1019
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 2: absolutely okay. But if you show the fan base we're

1020
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: invested in it and we're trying and then you actually

1021
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: build a sustained winner, they will be there.

1022
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: You can't get Panthers tickets now.

1023
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: It's a tough ticket, right, and you're spending a good

1024
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: deal of time talking about the pants.

1025
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so are we by? Yeah? I mean,

1026
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: and I love it. I love it.

1027
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if Dan does. And he's forced

1028
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: to do it now he's doing the things.

1029
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's heading a big conglomerate. Hey,

1030
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys aren't talking enough. Panthers. Is this your Dan?

1031
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I gotta work out it.

1032
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: Stew's asked me a couple of times, like what do

1033
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: I want to do or where do I want to

1034
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: go in this field? And I always tell him I

1035
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: want to be an EP because of the creativity and

1036
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: listening to you, listening to somebody like Mike Ryan and

1037
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: just having the confidence to push out segments. What's it

1038
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: like for you where you know people still in the

1039
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 3: year twenty twenty five are going and listening to the compilation.

1040
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: That's wild, isn't it? Yeah, that's wild. I don't think.

1041
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: I hope you realize the imprint you have on this show,

1042
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 2: Like people still ask about you all the time.

1043
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: So I wasn't upset that I wanted my name on

1044
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: the show. Oh, you were so surprised by it. The

1045
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: Oral History. I can't believe he did that. And now

1046
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm here and it's like you hit a huge imprint

1047
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: on the show. Are I just fucking know?

1048
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: I just I just wanted a fucking end.

1049
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: No. That is remarkable to me that people go back

1050
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: and listen to I have people that you know will

1051
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: DM me or whatever like crazy. I just listened to

1052
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: three hours of I Gotta Tell and uh or or

1053
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I Got You or or any of that stuff. All

1054
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: that stuff lives on, which is cool. We did something

1055
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: super cool. I'm so proud of it. I love it.

1056
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: It's I'm not lying to you. It's why I'm sitting

1057
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: here with you, because for me, it's getting the band

1058
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: back together. You owe it for the fans. It's one

1059
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: of the reasons. Oh, I know what I was going

1060
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: to tell you when I started talking about the Oral History.

1061
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 4: Selling point here it is my question brought it back.

1062
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: I I tried to quit the Oral History because I

1063
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: thought it was such an ambush history.

1064
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was such an ambush by you

1065
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: and Dan on my character that after a couple of

1066
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: episodes because I didn't get to hear the oral history.

1067
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: All I would get was Mike Ryan sending me questions

1068
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: to answer. Well. I would look at the questions and

1069
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I would go, well, I know what they fucking said

1070
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: about me, because I could tell from the questions. And

1071
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: it became a defense of myself in something that I

1072
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: thought we were all three equal partners of That's what

1073
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: bugged me the most. All of a sudden, the oral

1074
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: history became me defending myself and my personality to two

1075
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: guys who I thought we all acknowledged made some really

1076
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: good hits together and didn't end great, and that's fine.

1077
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean people are adults and whatever. It had made

1078
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: history together and you were disappointed. I was like, wait

1079
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: a second, Like why are they talking about me as

1080
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: if I was a problem child when I wasn't a

1081
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: problem to I didn't perceive myself as a problem child.

1082
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I thought we were all making really good radio. But

1083
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons that I was sitting near

1084
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: with you today was like I said, I wanted a

1085
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: jam with a band that I had made some hits with.

1086
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I look back on it, I mean

1087
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: there's stuff like I still have a hard drive filled

1088
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: with stuff that we did where you wouldn't think of it,

1089
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: or even on the Oral History when Mike would do

1090
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: the super cuts at the end, right like I was

1091
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: crying on some of those, laughing so hard. I mean

1092
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: even the fake Howard stuff like stuff that I hadn't

1093
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: thought about in years. And so I participated my original

1094
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: idea to participate in the Oral History because I was

1095
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: happy that everything was, like like I didn't have to

1096
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: worry about the show anymore, and I didn't want to

1097
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: reopen old wounds and stuff.

1098
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: And I thought you should have been in studio, Well.

1099
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: I should have been. And I didn't know that it

1100
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: was going to be laid out the way that it was.

1101
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I was gonna have an opportunity

1102
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: to defend myself to two guys who weren't going to

1103
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: hear my defense of myself. You guys, you guys recording it. Now,

1104
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: you guys recorded your portion.

1105
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: I got to rebut it, but it didn't get heard

1106
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: by you or Dan. So everything that you believed was

1107
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: true when you came into the Oral History, you still

1108
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: believe is true because you never heard my side of it,

1109
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: and so I thought it was flawed from that aspect.

1110
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: But regardless, the reason that I still believe stand up

1111
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: comedy was the dream.

1112
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: The reason the reason I just decided to do the

1113
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: oral history was because so many people still tell me

1114
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: they love the I Gotta Tell You's and all that stuff.

1115
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Was I always use Van Halen as the as the

1116
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: example because I was David Lee Roth and then Mike

1117
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: was Sammy Hagar, and obviously they're the marquee guy. So

1118
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: it's not a fair comparison because I'm not really like,

1119
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm more like Michael Anthony in the band, but just

1120
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: for the sake for the sake of comparison. But the

1121
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: reason that I want to do the oral history, yeah,

1122
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: the reason I want to do the oral history was

1123
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: for the fans. I'm like, you know, if there's going

1124
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: to be an oral history of this show, if I'm

1125
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: watching a rockumentary on Van Halen, well, i want to

1126
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: see David Lee Roth in it, and I want to

1127
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: see Sammy Hagar in it like that that would and

1128
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: Garrit Sharone very briefly was the third lead singer. So

1129
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do that for the

1130
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: old listeners who like deserve a fair oral history instead

1131
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: of me just disappearing into the ether because I was

1132
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: a big part of it for eight years. And then

1133
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: about halfway through it when I realized this was just

1134
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: an attack on my character, which was bizarre to me

1135
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: because I thought it was gonna be a celebration of

1136
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: the show and insteads instead it became like this. Well,

1137
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: and then Hawk was out of control and put his

1138
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: name on the show, and then he attacked me at

1139
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: a comedy show, and I was like, what I thought

1140
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: we were celebrating the history of the show. So I

1141
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: was kind of caught off guard. So I called Mike

1142
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: a few episodes in and I said, I'm not going

1143
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: to do it anymore. I'm already painted as the bad guy,

1144
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: so just make it sound like I'm really the bad

1145
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: guy that I fucking bailed because I'm not winning over

1146
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: Dan or Stu Gotts on their notion of what transpired

1147
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: because they're not listening to me. So the whole notion

1148
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: that hey, maybe I can redefine what some people think

1149
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: about my tenure on the show. It was just it

1150
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: was kind of going into the ether, and so I said, Mike,

1151
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: just say I bailed and continue to paint me as

1152
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: the bad guy, because what's the fucking difference of this point.

1153
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: And he was a very good executive producer, and he's like,

1154
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Gave me you know, I know,

1155
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: Mike is good that way, very good care. I didn't believe, well,

1156
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe he really cared. I didn't believe a

1157
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: word that he said.

1158
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: But he was very good at delivered, very good at

1159
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: making you think he cares. Yes, I taught, which I'm

1160
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: all about that, like TSA, give me the illusion of security,

1161
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: give me the illusion that you care.

1162
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: Mike delivered on that illusion, and so I agreed to

1163
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: participate in the In the end of it, I'm sorry, Huck,

1164
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1165
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: There's no it doesn't there's no sorries like now, because

1166
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: I viewed it the same way as you.

1167
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: A celebration the three of us.

1168
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: We created something, really the four of us Mike and

1169
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: then Billy came in and he was a big part

1170
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 2: of me, and then Chris came in and we all

1171
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: created something. I've been waiting for that celebration for four

1172
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: and a half fucking years.

1173
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Well again, and that's why, well, that's why we left ESPN.

1174
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: That's why I did that oral history. I was like, Oh,

1175
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: we're going to finally celebrate what we did, and I

1176
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't feel I felt like you guys were celebrating that

1177
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: you did and like showing the rest of the world

1178
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: what you had to put up with me, and I

1179
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: just thought it was an unfair characterization. Maybe it's true,

1180
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. I felt it was an unfair characterization.

1181
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: We both had a decision to make.

1182
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: We were doing mornings together, we were doing two days together,

1183
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: and the show was very successful. I think it was

1184
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: the highest rated morning show for the two months we

1185
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: did it in the history of the market for sports.

1186
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's one of the reasons that I'm.

1187
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: Just trying to lend like this was not an easy

1188
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: decision for you.

1189
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, it was for me because Dan had already made

1190
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: it clear to me that he doesn't want me around

1191
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: the show. There was no choice for me. Like he

1192
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: had said to me, I don't trust you, I don't

1193
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: like you. I'm not going to see that. I'm not

1194
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: going to be going to you on the show like

1195
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: I used to. And he didn't have to tell me that.

1196
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: It was very apparent, like you could feel it, so

1197
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: he he would cringe when I would walk towards the mic.

1198
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: For me, it was no decision. It was I can't

1199
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: exist in that fashion. Like this guy hates me. I

1200
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: don't know why, but he hates me because I made

1201
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: jokes at a stand up comedy show. Imagine that. But yeah,

1202
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: so for me, it was really no decision. For me,

1203
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: it was a tough decision.

1204
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember you try and like we talked

1205
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: a lot about it, about that decision, and.

1206
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Uh, I just it was hard.

1207
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: It was a weird thing because I knew what we

1208
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: were doing, what me, you and Dan were doing with.

1209
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: Mike, with Billy, with Roy, with everyone. It was so

1210
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: fucking good, howk oh? Yeah, and I wasn't ready to

1211
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: leave it. No, I don't.

1212
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't blame you for it, but I also you

1213
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: and also knew what you and I were doing.

1214
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Was so you and I would have been Paul and Ron.

1215
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: You and I would have been Paul and Ron. We

1216
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: would have owned the market. It would have been Paul

1217
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: and Paul has a sandwich named after him at Marcato

1218
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: Italiana downtown. But yeah, we would have been Paul and Ron.

1219
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: But that's not I mean, listen, if it'd still be

1220
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: doing it if I was still.

1221
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: A functioning part of the Lebatar Show. I'm not necessarily

1222
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: certain I would have left, Like if things were good,

1223
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: why why would I have left? So you didn't like

1224
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: your choice was really easy and mine was easy as well. Yeah,

1225
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: we struggled with that choice. I'm telling you.

1226
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it well because I knew I was

1227
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: going back to Dan without you, and I was leaving

1228
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: something that you and I had created over two months

1229
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: that was really really good and making Dan crazy.

1230
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: But I feel like what happens is like it gets

1231
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: overblown in this, you know, And it's just like such

1232
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: the natural progression of any job, any life. People have

1233
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: great teams together. You may see Sam Bennett leave the

1234
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: Florida Panthers. I don't think you will, But you can

1235
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: have championship teams and then people go elsewhere because an

1236
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: opportunity is different, like such a natural progression in anything, and.

1237
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: I feel like it gets a little like over over

1238
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: done by our part, Like you know what I mean,

1239
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: Like like why wouldn't an executive producer? Why would the

1240
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: next step not be I want to be a host?

1241
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: Right? Well? And it obviously was, but I didn't know

1242
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: that I had those chops and it took me a

1243
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: while to get there too. But like, why wouldn't the

1244
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: natural progression first be is that your name on the show? Yes,

1245
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: and then maybe hosting your own show and and like

1246
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: it it. But that seems like, you know, you're a

1247
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: big three somewhere, and then somebody starts having a breakout

1248
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: season and there's a team that says you're you'd be

1249
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: ar one. Yes, like you're the three there and you're

1250
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: a great team, but you'd be our one, and that's

1251
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: appealing to a lot of people. So I didn't think

1252
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: anything was like out of the ordinary with the way

1253
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: that the the show ended, and and I don't I

1254
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it just gets so overt loan.

1255
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: I think if people looking, you know, looking inside outside,

1256
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: looking in, they yeah, what they heard was something they.

1257
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: Never heard before.

1258
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: That's how good the radio was, and they couldn't fathom

1259
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: any of us wanting to leave.

1260
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: Sure, I get it, I get it right, that's part

1261
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: of it. So, uh, what show is this? By the way,

1262
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: what what am I on? It's on? H We're on stupidity?

1263
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: Is this stupody?

1264
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know I was gonna say, speaking of things

1265
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: that it's a good question you've never heard of before.

1266
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was on God Bless Football, and I

1267
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: thought there was a real lack of football question. What

1268
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: had bless?

1269
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: When you guys would do the Two A Days, I

1270
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: was not retired. I was not allowed to listen to

1271
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: the beginning of the Two A Days, the start of it,

1272
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: because I was just told of sounds that you guys

1273
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: would make in the beginning, and I would have to

1274
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: kind of tune in, like ten to fifteen minutes in.

1275
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: The beginning of the Morning show yourself that was a

1276
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: snorting cocaine.

1277
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: That show was so absurd. I don't have many memories

1278
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: of because I really was overtired. Do you remember I

1279
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: was trying to Yes, yep, I remember, But I remember

1280
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I remember buzz Off. Do you remember buzz Off?

1281
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: I remember say something nasty about your wife.

1282
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: I remember that there was a segment called Hawk talks

1283
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: game to your girl, and it would be guys calling up,

1284
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: put your girl on the phone, and I'm gonna run game. Yeah,

1285
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: run game. This is in the middle of the Big Three,

1286
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: Like the old thing is so absurd. But we used

1287
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: to do a thing called buzz Off and there was

1288
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: there's a class and you come back next week and

1289
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: were classical song Flight of the Bumblebee, and people would

1290
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: call up and they would tell you why they're buzzed

1291
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: off about something, which became honked off like a goose

1292
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: for me, like it did, like but yeah, but I

1293
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: remember doing buzz off. What else do you remember about that?

1294
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: I remember.

1295
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: I just remember being so exhausted by the time we

1296
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: got to three o'clock. Oh, and I'm thinking to myself,

1297
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: poor daddy, he's getting the leftovers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

1298
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: That was really rough. That was rough fun though there

1299
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: are people who do that. There are people in the

1300
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: radio industry who do mornings and afternoons. Was that the

1301
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: was that the point where you realized, hey, I could

1302
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: do this on my own.

1303
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: I have the child. I didn't know I could do

1304
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: it on my own. I knew I could do it

1305
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: with you. You were driving the show. I had never

1306
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: driven a show, you know, So that that was again,

1307
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: I was just I was exercising muscles that I had

1308
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: never exercised before. Because even when there were radic times

1309
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: where Dan would have to leave early or do something

1310
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: or show up late, you would sit in the studio

1311
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: at seven ninety the ticket. I never sat in the studio.

1312
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: I never was the co host, and I would always

1313
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: stand where the producer would stand and I would interject

1314
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: more if it was just you. But I never I

1315
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: was a co host. Did you want to sit in

1316
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: that seat? Yeah? I didn't know Mike's way about the way.

1317
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know what I could do

1318
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: or couldn't do on radio. I was a music DJ

1319
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: like that. That was my wheelhouse. It's still what I know. Like,

1320
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't consider myself a sports expert at all. I

1321
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: happen to be on a sports station, but I'm a

1322
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: radio guy. But the first time I ever sat in

1323
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: a co host chair was when we started two days.

1324
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: I had never done that, so I was exercising new muscles,

1325
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: but I still didn't know that I could do it

1326
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: or couldn't do it. And really, for the first year

1327
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: it was very good with Aslow. When I transitioned to

1328
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: mornings with ASO was really good, but he brought an

1329
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: expertise about because everything was heat back then, he brought

1330
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: an expertise about basketball that I didn't have, and so

1331
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: it was such a great safety valve that yes, that

1332
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: show worked really well. When I started at QAM on

1333
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: my own first six months, like I would go home

1334
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: in a hot tub in the backyard. I would go

1335
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: home and I would sit in the hot tub and go,

1336
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: what am I doing? What am I doing? I don't

1337
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: feel good about what I'm doing? Really? Yeah?

1338
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: And then when did you start to feel it? Was

1339
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: it Channing, Like, when did you when did you start

1340
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: to feel comfortable?

1341
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: I started to get into a groove maybe a year

1342
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: in there were some changes at the radio station or whatever.

1343
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: And then when Channing Channing excellent, Crowder joined me and Zach.

1344
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: It added an element that we needed. And then Zach

1345
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: went back to do mornings, and when it was me

1346
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: and Crowder, we just sometimes you just vibe with someone,

1347
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: like I say it, this as great a time as

1348
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: we had doing the Levatar Show. This is my best

1349
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: radio time ever in my life. Really, I cannot interesting

1350
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: wait to get on the air every day. And I

1351
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: love Crowder and I love Solana and Jimmy, our associate producer,

1352
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: Like it's just fun the show. I mean, yeah, Jimmy's

1353
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: upset he didn't get his name on the show. And

1354
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: then Solana won personality of the year because you gave

1355
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: it to him. Voter fatigue fatigue. You know, I once

1356
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: tried to buy wambos from Chris Cody. So he invented

1357
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: the wambo he did and I was like, wow, that's brilliant.

1358
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: This is after I was gone from the show, and

1359
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: I texted him. You remember on Seinfeld when j Peterman

1360
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: bought all of Kramer's memories. Yes, Kramer had a more

1361
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: colorful life, and so Peterman wrote him a check and said,

1362
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: I now own all your memories. You can't ever say

1363
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: that that happened to you. It happened to me. So

1364
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: I texted Chris Cody and I said, I love this

1365
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: wombo thing. It's such my wheelhouse. I want to buy

1366
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: it from you, but you can't have it anymore. And

1367
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: I thought, like four or five hundred bucks and I'd

1368
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: have wombos. And he came back and he was like

1369
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. I was like, a boy, what this is?

1370
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, but now I just I just do

1371
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: it as if it's my own.

1372
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: I've been doing that for twenty years. I gotta tell you, Taylor,

1373
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: any other questions here. I think Taylor had a question

1374
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: about Wannie mcstashes.

1375
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask what what was Jannie mcstash is,

1376
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: because I'm not I'm not a Miami sports fan.

1377
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: So Wannie mcstashes, Dave Wanstead obviously had the mustache, and

1378
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: Dan and the show went through a fascination with mustaches

1379
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: for a time, right, we were for a long time,

1380
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean just wet always faccinated by mustache, especially his.

1381
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: And then Wannie became more and more disliked by Dolphins

1382
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: fans as things started to end, as they went from

1383
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: ten to six to eight and eight every year. And

1384
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember how it actually came about, but we

1385
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: decided to name a sports bar Wanni Mustaches. But even

1386
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: before that, because one of Mike super cuts at the

1387
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: end of the oral History has me doing a fake

1388
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: call in from Wanni mukstashes before we ever decided to

1389
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: actually do it as an event, And I don't know,

1390
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: it was.

1391
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Like what we were doing, like what a call in

1392
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: would sound like.

1393
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: And so I remember Dan being like, Hak, go out

1394
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: in the parking lot, but you're calling in from Wanni

1395
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: mcstashes and we're like, you know how you do call

1396
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: ins on radio? Be like, Hey, I'm at whatever Ford

1397
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,879
Speaker 1: you know. So I was calling in from Janni mcstashes

1398
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: and we were just trying to spitball, you know, Oh,

1399
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: the chicken mustaches are delicious or whatever. And then we decided, well,

1400
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,480
Speaker 1: let's do this at Quarterdeck. Frank Zaffrey was running Quarterdeck

1401
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: and was a friend of ours.

1402
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: And was a big partner, And.

1403
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: So they bought molds that you could actually put a

1404
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: chicken tender into that looked like a mustache, and so

1405
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: we had his mustage. We had actual chicken mustaches on

1406
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: the menu. They came on a skewer, and we had

1407
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: a menu that was everything on the menu was renamed

1408
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: Dave wanstet or dolphins related. I wish I still had it.

1409
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: I don't have it.

1410
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: I tell you can probably pull up the menu. It's

1411
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: laugh out laugh funny. I think we had a dessert

1412
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: called the Vanilla Sunday with no nuts right.

1413
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: Because his Yeah, and we had a night end up.

1414
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: Place was mob crazy. When I say mob.

1415
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: Crazy, like rock stars. Everyone wanted to be at Wanta Mukstash's.

1416
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: I know everyone wanted to be around us.

1417
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it was.

1418
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: Uh so it's not the norm. I always tell people like,

1419
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: we're not the uh it's the outlier in radio, not

1420
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: the majority. It happens, but it's the outlier. It happens

1421
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: certainly not on AM radio. Oh.

1422
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: Never that that was the part that was really mind boggling. Man.

1423
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: It's interesting, man, because I miss it. I miss I

1424
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: miss you Hawk. I didn't realize it until I saw you,

1425
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: but I miss you. This was fun and now I

1426
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: feeling terrible that I have viserted you during the It's

1427
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: Mike's faul. It's creative evidence, your fault because you sat

1428
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: there and I don't remember anything. You just parroted whatever

1429
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: Dan said, because that's the path of least resistance is

1430
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: to parrot what he says. I thought the Oral History

1431
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 2: Show was looking for you to have a vanilla offense

1432
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: with nuts.

1433
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: I know that's fine, though.

1434
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: What if I told you Hawk, okay, would you be

1435
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 2: up for this? You're gonna give me my share of

1436
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: the DraftKings money right now? This is unbelievable. I knew

1437
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: this moment was coming.

1438
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you when I get mine go.

1439
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna, uh, well, I haven't.

1440
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: I haven't run this through Dan yet, but I think

1441
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 2: it would be a good idea if we did whatever

1442
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: your last year is going to be whatever. My last

1443
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: year is going to be whatever. Dan's last year. If

1444
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: we actually brought the band back together.

1445
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: And we did a year of radio, Wow, I don't

1446
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: know if I'd have to think about that. You wouldn't.

1447
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: I can tell you someone else who would have to

1448
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: think about it.

1449
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: I think he'd have a quicker no than I would.

1450
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: How about me and you? I'll I'll stop in sporadically here.

1451
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: This is very close to my house.

1452
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: Everyone stops in sporadically everywhere. By the way, You're like, hey,

1453
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: ten to one. I'm like, we're not doing a midday show,

1454
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: Like I don't when coming eleven?

1455
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: Does this air today? Yeah?

1456
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: It's good air today. Yeah, it's good air today. Maybe Dan,

1457
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: we'll we'll text you a back.

1458
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: So what what shows? Do you have? Stupidity?

1459
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: And so I do you know? I was down in football.

1460
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: I was down yesterday doing the show with Dan. But

1461
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: I have Stupidity, which we're going to rebrand into something

1462
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: called Stuatts and Company.

1463
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: And I have God bless football as well that I

1464
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: do with Billy.

1465
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna start a god bless college football that we're

1466
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: excited about.

1467
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: But Billy I think is super talented. So I love Billy.

1468
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Billy should be a host, can be

1469
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: a host, and so we're trying to get Billy to

1470
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: that spot. So that's what we're doing. We have these

1471
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: two shows that we own now and you were welcome

1472
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: here anytime.

1473
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. The third show, I can't. I can't

1474
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: say you're welcome there any time, just show up. I

1475
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: don't think I was welcome on that show. For the

1476
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: last two years I was on the show, we were

1477
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: actively trying to annoy him. Oh yeah, that was my

1478
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: only outlet. That was my only way to fight back.

1479
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: And then you left, and all I had left was Billy.

1480
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: It was my only way to fight back. One of

1481
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: my favorite radio devices I was talking about this was

1482
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: someone the other day. One of my favorite radio devices

1483
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: was I Gotta tell you, and then I would record

1484
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: what the robot said, and then I would act surprised

1485
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: by what the robot said. Was one of my favorite

1486
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: radio deviship of all time. Wow, I did not see

1487
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: that coming, robot. You always surprised me. I just thought

1488
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: it was such a great radio device. You put it together.

1489
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: What do you think annoyed Dan the most in terms

1490
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: of oh, I'm sorry, there's more me. Me is a

1491
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: good answer. I'm a close seconds. I think it was

1492
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: me first.

1493
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: I was who goes first? Me first?

1494
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: All right, I love you man, I love you too.

1495
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: I will am I forgiving.

1496
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: Or h yeah again, it's what transpired. If there's plenty

1497
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: of things that have transpired, there's plenty of things that

1498
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: have annoyed me about people I work with currently or whatever, like, Yeah,

1499
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: that's the part that's confounding to me, is like, isn't

1500
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: that all part of being a human, Like you have

1501
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: interactions sometimes they go south, and then you kind of

1502
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: bounce back and go, well, that was a weak moment

1503
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. Let's go get a beer. And so yeah,

1504
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: that's where I am with everybody. I'm in a very comfidation.

1505
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: You should be good.

1506
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: Uh, just you know, in the spirit, let's just close

1507
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: this out the correct way. When you left the show.

1508
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: When you left the show, be honest with me. Okay,

1509
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: you were rooting for us to fail, right, not at all,

1510
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: not at all, But I do believe you guys were

1511
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: rooting for me to fail.

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Speaker 4: Just