1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: presentation of Dallas Cowboys Breaking News. And just like that, 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: the sixty second camp in Cowboys history, the forty second 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in California in the fifteenth and Oxnard has come and 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: kicked off. How about that here from Oxnard, California. It's 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: good to be back. There's a smile on David Hellman's face. 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: There's smile on Mickey's Bagnolah's face. Same here with Kyle Yeoman's. 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: As we are the first podcast to get things underway 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one season, And just like that, gentleman, 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: we're back in the thick of it. It was about time, right, 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just gonna say, I'll just take 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: a line from from Jerry Jones and we're gonna get 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: into it. But which which is gonna be a clean 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna between uh no, not not 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: planning on dropping any F bombs right now, but just 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about how he you know, are we 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: ever gonna do this again? Are we ever gonna like, Yeah, 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: I have a press conference where you can talk to 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: people and just feel kind of normal about what we're doing. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: And that's what's happening right now, and it's really exciting. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: It's very very exciting. It's as close to normal as 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: we've known it in quite some time. Right we're oh 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: my god, like twenty five people on the on the 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: tennis court out there for the press conference. Uh, the 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: press conference was normal. It went an hour, that's about 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: what usually takes place, and it was pretty darn good. 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: But we got to talk about the cowboys and it 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: wasn't on zoom. Yeah, and we were actually looking at 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: somebody that we were asking questions too, and then they 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: were looking at us and they could see who was 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: listening and who was asking the questions. Uh. Yeah, And 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, the weather's back to normal here, which is 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: seventy five degree and sixty two in the morning when 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: you wake up. And yeah, it was refreshing after what 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: we've been through. Now, there's still a lot of protocols 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: the media has to follow, but I think everybody would 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: rather do that than what we did last summer. I 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: think you just hit it on the word refreshed. I 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: actually wrote that down at the end of the press 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: conference because it kind of had that feel, and where 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: of course talking about the opening press conference the State 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: of the Union that was just here in Oxnard, where 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: all three of the figurehead of the Dallas Cowboys, Stephen Jones, 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, and of course head coach Mike McCarthy talking 46 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: on the podium to the entire media, which, like we 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: just said, is refreshing in its own right that they 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: were on a podium and hey, there were people in 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: person talking to them and able to have a little 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: bit of dialogue. But it was emotional, and I'm sure 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot of that compounds based off of what twenty 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: twenty was, but I think there's a lot of expectations 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: heading into this season as opposed to what we had 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: a year ago. That also adds to a little bit 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: of that emotion as well. Absolutely, I mean last year 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: was a nightmare, like for like for a lot of reasons. Nay, 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the pandemic is the big headliner there, 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: but it was the worst Cowboys season. I mean, I 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: don't want to Mick, I don't know, You've done this 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: a lot longer than Yeah, Okay, how did that? How 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: did last year stack up among like the very worst? Well, 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: it's gotta be top three. It was. It was as 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: bad because of what the expectations were. Yeah, because then 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: eighty nine there were and and that's and and it 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: was a promising season that just got absolutely directed, legs 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: cut out from absolutely and so not just the you know, 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: the record speaks for itself, but you went into that 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: season thinking that it had the chance to be special, 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: even with everything going on with COVID, and that was 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: part of it. And so yeah, it's it's almost like 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: hitting the reset button on your PS five for I 72 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: still have a PS four, but you get my point, 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: uh yeahs at the end of my letters, which you 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: still right. So and you mentioned the emotion, Jerry's emotion, 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: and I think that exhibits how much this all means 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: to him. You know. I think some people think, oh, yeah, 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: he's this great businessman and all he's worried about is 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: making money, But he he loves this. Right. The training camp, 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: the whole deal with the media. You know, I'm gonna guess, 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: and just to let everybody know how everything's set up, 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: they set up the media in a U shape around 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the practice field well before we had you know, the 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: full rain, the whole the whole practice field, and when 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: practice would finish, we would be at the end of 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the practice field where everybody would exit, and Jerry invariably 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: would come over and stop, you know, and invariably it 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: was after you know, the second practice at night, six o'clock, 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: when everybody's ready to get done because it's eight o'clock 89 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: back Central time, and he would hold court right just 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: on a spur of the moment. Well, yeah, I guarantee 91 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: you because we can't be at this end and the 92 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: interviews are going to be at the far end of 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: the field, the other end zone that he's going to 94 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: walk over there one or two times he's gonna find 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: to talk to us, right, Jerry Jones is a showman 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and he loves the show. And that he said that 97 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: he like, that was the last thing he said today, 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: was talking about the show of the NFL is back, 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: and you know, we played a season last year and 100 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Tampa's championship is totally valid. Like, it's amazing what the 101 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: NFL pulled off, but it it sucked. I mean that 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: that was it was not the NFL that we've all 103 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: come to know and love in the pomp and the 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: circumstance and having six weeks of anticipation and storylines. We 105 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: don't really get any of that last year, and I 106 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: promise you very few people are happier about that than 107 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones to kind of bring the fireworks back to 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: all of this. And I think the media is happy 109 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: about this as well, because I know, certainly we are 110 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: as part of a team. The pageant tree is back, 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of a pep in the 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: step I think of everyone here, and of course the 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys returning. Jerry Jones certainly a big time fan of that. 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: But how big of an advantage is this for the 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: team itself? Jerry said it in the press conference. Only 116 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: four or five teams actually went away for camp this year. 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: A lot of them had it in their facilities at 118 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: home or at least near to home. So I don't 119 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: know if that's an exact number. There may be more 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: or less than that regarding teams leaving and going somewhere. 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: But Mickey, is this a bigger advantage for Mike McCarthy 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: heading into camp this year as opposed to compared to 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: last year? Because you know what I'm gonna say, I 124 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: think kind of pertains to what's going on now. Because 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: there were other times we came to camp here and 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: it didn't make a hill of beings a difference. Right, 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: they were bad, and you know they were still bad, 128 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: but here's what happens compared to last year. You have 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: more camaraderie among the players. They're they're all here together. 130 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: They're not some guys are staying at the hotel. Last year, 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: some guys are going home. It was just so disjointed. 132 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: You don't get that team feeling. But when you're here, 133 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: you're messing around at night with everybody you know after 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: all the meetings, and guys are just kind of bonding, 135 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and I think that helps. He didn't have that last year. 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: He didn't have an offseason last year. He didn't have 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a preseason last year. Now I'm not saying that's why 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: they turned out to be six and ten, because there 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: was other first year head coaches, but I think just 140 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the whole combination of it, as I said early, kind 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: of derailed the season. And you know, it was bad 142 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and defense was bad, but there was a lot of 143 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: other factors that went into it. But I just think 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: having everybody here two practice fields outdoors, you don't have 145 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: to practice indoors all the time. You know, you guys 146 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: saw at the Ford Center, I experienced set the Alamo 147 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Dome in San Antonio. That was the most depressing training 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: camp practices day in and day out. And this was 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: two padded practices a day. And the place is so gray. 150 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: It's just gray. There's no sunlight. And it was depressing. 151 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: And so yeah, getting back here, I just get what's 152 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: a little pep in your step? Yeah, I hesitate to 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: call it an advantage because Mick just pointed out, you know, 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: some first year head coaches did some great things in 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: the league last year. Cleveland comes to mind, and the 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been coming to California for a long time 157 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: without a ton to show for. It's true, but again 158 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: compared to last year, and you know, actually even going 159 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: back to like OTAs like we were fortunate enough that 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: we got to be more involved in that this year 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: and kind of be around the team. Mike McCarthy seemed 162 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: so happy to like, just that's why you're on a 163 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: team in the first place, right, It's like the camaraderie 164 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and feeling like you're part of something. They didn't get 165 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: that last year, Like you know, they're on Zoom the 166 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: same way that everybody was doing that and you're not. 167 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get to stop and rip a 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: guy about his college team or what are you know, 169 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the basketball game last night in the hallway, like all 170 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: that little stuff that you take for granted. They didn't 171 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: get it. So no idea if it means that they're 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: going to be a better football team this year. But 173 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's important for Mike McCarthy in terms 174 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: of like establishing his culture and the way that he 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: wants his team to be, and obviously the players themselves 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: getting to know each other. This is a great place 177 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: to do that. I promise you that. Yeah, then let 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: me give you an example. Like I was walking back 179 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: from I think I was walking back from breakfast this morning, 180 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: and I passed Randy Gregory and he's got a big 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: smile on his face. He goes, hey, man, kind of 182 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: gives me a little fist bump, you know, good to 183 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: see you. Yesterday when I was going to see where 184 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: our trailer was or where our digital media's working from 185 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Dak was going up the steps to 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: his place and he yelled, and I looked to see 187 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: who was like on my left, and then he yelled 188 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: again and he goes, no, good to see you, just 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: like that, right, And we didn't get that last year. 190 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: We never ran into people. Last year, I've run into 191 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: coaches that I've never met before. I had to introduce 192 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: myself to Dan Quinn. I introduced myself to Cedric, the 193 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: new assistant strength and conditioning coach, who, by the way, 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the big guy but all the muscles. He was Emmet's 195 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: fullback in high school. There we go. I said, no, 196 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: wonder he had him. Yeah, no wonder he had such 197 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: a great career as Scammia. That guy is huge. I 198 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: thought he was interviewing for a nose tackle position, you know. 199 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: But we didn't see these guys. You know, we didn't 200 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: see anybody last year. Um Davis the assistant head coach, 201 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, we were taping something before the draft and 202 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: he introduced himself. We went through this whole season and 203 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: three quarters of the coaches that were new we didn't. 204 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: We didn't meet him personally. Mike McCarthy in January, didn't 205 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: see him again to November in person. So yeah, it's 206 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: it's just different. And you know, to go back to 207 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: does this make a difference. I used to hear from 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: people that because the Cowboys were playing on Thanksgiving, they 209 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: had as big advantage. And I would point out to 210 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: them they only had a big advantage when they were good. 211 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: When they were bad, it didn't make a difference whatsoever 212 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: that they were playing at home on a short week, right, 213 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's just better. The whole atmosphere is 214 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: just better. The return to Oxnard doesn't mean we can 215 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: reserve a spot for the Lobardi Trophy at the start 216 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: just yet. No, that's not the case. However, and there 217 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of talk about this throughout the press 218 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: conferences as well, But Dak Prescott is back, the offensive 219 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: line seemingly healthy. Heading into training camp, you have your 220 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: weapons returning on offense, and then of course the defensive 221 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: additions that make this thing kind of exciting because of course, 222 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: the last year, last year's defense historically bad. This year, 223 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: hopefully you're less than historically bad. It's not hopefully that 224 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: was the worst case scenario. How do things start off 225 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: on the right track for Mike McCarthy, What does he 226 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: have to do in this coaching staff? He had mentioned 227 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: establishing a winning culture, that's one big thing. But but Dave, 228 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: whenever you look at practice starting tomorrow. What is one 229 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: of the biggest things that Cowboys have to do to 230 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: get off to that hot start to ensure that they 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: don't have a repeat of twenty twenty. Oh well, I mean, 232 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm this is my yearly crusade. Stay healthy, please honestly 233 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: that they gotta practice, they gotta they gotta do all that, 234 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: and a more nuanced ancer is especially on the Like, 235 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't really care about the offense, to be honest 236 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: with you, Like, as long as everybody's healthy, that's they're good. 237 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: They're stay healthy. That's the you're good, They're good, They'll 238 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: be fine. The defense, I think you do need to 239 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: keep a close eye on that and how they compete. 240 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: Are they getting hands on footballs? Are they, you know, 241 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: killing themselves to win every rep? Maybe even you know, 242 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: little stuff as seemingly innocuous, as like talking trash, like 243 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Micah Parsons front and center and wait 244 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to showing up day one to let to let this 245 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, these vets know, like I'm here to compete 246 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and to win and to to fight on every rep. 247 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Like little stuff like that. I think that's what I 248 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: think of when I think of a culture, and you 249 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: can do that out here, and it's important and I 250 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: think people will rally to that. But my baseline answer 251 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: is always just keep keep everybody, keep the important guy's 252 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: healthy for three weeks while we're out here. That's the keys. 253 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: As I wrote on Friday, it's the old Brad Sham thing. 254 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: We go to training camp to see who's going to 255 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: get hurt, right, and look at the Rams right there 256 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: slamming on that and on the wood they they lose 257 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: their running back Cam Akers right torn achilles, And yeah, 258 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: you just can't. There's not enough depth these days to 259 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: get through that many key injuries to key players. I 260 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: think Jerry or Stephen talked about it about their top 261 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: ten players or top ten paid players. You got to 262 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: have those guys. You got to have those guys on 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: the field. And last year half of them weren't on 264 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the field. So um, yeah, I here here's my deal 265 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: with the defense. Can they just be average? I'm not 266 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: asking for top ten. Just you know, they were eleventh 267 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: the year before, by the way, when it came to 268 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: total yards. Uh, can they just be average? Because they 269 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: were pitiful and and and they couldn't they couldn't. The 270 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: offense couldn't compensate for how bad the defense was, you know, 271 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: And somebody said, well, yeah, Wellen Dac was there. They 272 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: only went two in three, and I said, yeah, they 273 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: averaged thirty two points a game while the defense had 274 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: given up thirty six in those first five games. Turnovers 275 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: certainly didn't help with that either. Well yeah, but still 276 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: you scored thirty two, Okay, thirty six. On the other side, 277 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: they didn't stop just because you turned the ball over. 278 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: The defense doesn't have to say, okay, next play, go score, right, 279 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: and that happened. So yeah, dan Quinn's gotta make a difference. 280 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: And it's not just dan Quinn. Think about this from 281 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: a defensive staff standpoint. He's he's now the defensive line 282 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: coach too. By the way, you know they brought in 283 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: the specialty. Yeah, they brought in Adam Dird, but he's 284 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of just gonna be the overseer while he's doing 285 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing. They they they've moved George Edwards to 286 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the linebacker coach. You know, that's it's kind of unspoken, 287 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: but when you watch kind of running things right, all right, 288 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: And then they bring in Joe Witt Junior for the secondary. 289 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: So they're three key guys on that defense for really, 290 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: Uh that it's gonna change. Can they make a difference? Well, 291 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: they better hope they do. Uh. And just listening to 292 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: the players in the offseason, dan Quinn's a hit already 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: and they look organized. You know this time last year defense, 294 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: the linebackers weren't calling out plays right, They weren't telling guys, hey, 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: move there, move here. They were and that in the 296 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: OTAs that didn't happen last year. That was a lost defense, 297 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: meaning guys didn't know what they were supposed to do. 298 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: A lot of the problems they had. Somebody asked me 299 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: about the secondary. You know, can the defensive line help 300 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: out a secondary that struggled? I said, well, they can't 301 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: help him from missing assignments, and they missed assignments last year. 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: It was just get beat physically, okay, but when you 303 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: don't know where you're supposed to be or who you're 304 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: supposed to cover, that's just awful. And that's happened too 305 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: much last year. So defense, can you be average? When 306 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: the question was asked to Mike McCarthy on the podium 307 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: about how much improvement he's already seen from his defense 308 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: and how improved he thinks they could be. That was 309 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: one of the conversations he had as well. I need 310 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: the defensive line to be up to part of what 311 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: we're putting out there. On the offensive line. There needs 312 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: to be competition. Last year, I remember we were talking 313 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: about it, and every time that the offensive line was 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: banged up, the defensive line had success. But whenever the 315 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: offensive line had their top five guys out there, even 316 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: though that was only for pretty much a snap or 317 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: two the defense, the line had no success. And you've 318 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: got to have a little bit of competition. Camp is 319 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: where that thing starts, and I think that we're going 320 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: to see more of that. Maybe that's a dan Quinn effect. 321 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the effect of having Randy Gregory in for 322 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: an entire offseason. He was talked about a lot during 323 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: the press conference. Do you think those guys can have 324 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: that much of an impact to maybe try and even 325 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: the playing surfaces between the trenches. I mean I do. 326 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't say this to sit on the fence, but 327 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: like that's why we're here, right yeah, I mean exactly. 328 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: And I was just about to say, and this is 329 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: this happens all the time, and I get it. It 330 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: goes with the territory. But I'll sit here and say 331 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the building are really excited 332 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: about what Randy Gregory can do having had a full offseason, 333 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: and I am too for that matter. Neville Gallimore is 334 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: another name that you will hear a lot. Obviously came 335 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: on really strong in the second half of his rookie year. 336 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: The coaches are excited about the potential that he could 337 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: make a leap and become this fantastic defensive tackle. And 338 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: again I'm excited about that too. I got really excited 339 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: about Malie Collins every summer. Also, like I've done I've 340 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: done this before and that's all so so we're here 341 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: for I'm here to watch and see if they can 342 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: because like on paper, there's a lot of reasons to 343 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: be excited. But will I be shocked if it's mid 344 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: October and I'm like, they're not a whole lot, They're 345 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: not a whole lot better than they were last year. No, 346 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: that that shouldn't surprise anybody. But that's gonna be the 347 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: fun part about the next five six weeks is finding 348 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: out just where they stand in that on that scale, 349 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be competition because if you look at 350 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: this defense. What's set in stone going the adgdressers and 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: about it, maybe Treyvon Diggs maybe yeah, I mean say yes, 352 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's not as secure as the adgere. 353 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: So that's three spots that there's eight more that I 354 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of competition, and that includes the linebackers. Right, 355 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: nothing's given to Layton Vanderessh and Jalen Smith. They're going 356 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: to have to earn what they get. I bet if 357 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: we pulled, you know, if we pulled all the people 358 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: that we work with, I'm just coming up with content 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: ideas right here on the air, we'd probably come up 360 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: with ten different starting elevens. Maybe only slightly, maybe only slightly, 361 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: but like you know, oh easy. Yeah. So I mean 362 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: that's a really good point, man. It's good. Good for competition, 363 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: that's what you want out here. And the other thing 364 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: I think I pointed out last week was the fact 365 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that with these new defensive coaches, you know when you 366 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: were a kid and you were playing whatever, say it 367 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: was little league, and you got a new coach that year, 368 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: where everybody was jacked up to show the new guy 369 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: what you can do, right because he didn't know. And 370 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: these new guys come in here with no preconceived notions. 371 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: So you better not have a bad day, you know, 372 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: you better, Jordan Lewis, you know, don't have two bad 373 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: days in a row because they get another corner they'll 374 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: put in the slot. So I think that's good for 375 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: this this whole deal. Now the other good thing. And 376 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: you know what, we probably went fifteen minutes in the 377 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the press conference talking about the 378 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys vaccination, right, and you know the way Jerry put it, 379 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: he said, it's only a handful of guys. Now, last 380 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: thing that came out was seventy percent of the ninety 381 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: man roster vaccinate. There's an important designation there, Jerry said, 382 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys that have done nothing, like 383 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: a handful of R five guys are less that have 384 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: not committed, not done anything. And Stephen Jones actually made 385 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: the really good point. You know, getting vaccinated, it's like 386 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: a five week process, like shot, two weeks shot, blah 387 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: blah blah. Exactly. It takes some time. So and we 388 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know the number. I will probably never know the 389 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: full number. And that's that's fine. But so now, but 390 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: so you know, there's a certain number of guys that 391 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: have gotten one shot but not both. There's a certain 392 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: number of guys that have probably gotten two shots but 393 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: aren't through their two week period of waiting. But man 394 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones to say that only five guys on 395 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: a ninety man roster have done nothing, and he kind 396 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: of intimated too that he thinks that number will go 397 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: down as well, Like as we go through this, he 398 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: thinks some of that handful will start to do stuff 399 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: to give back inconvenience. That's what I'm saying. Not being 400 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: vaccinated would be enough incentived. The minute I would run 401 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: to the CVS right now. The minute I read that 402 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: memo about what unvaccinated players have to go through, I 403 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: was like, that would be enough for me, even if 404 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't already done it, that would be enough for me. 405 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: So but that's that's that was a good sign. And 406 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: he said he said he thought by time the preseason game, 407 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game showed up that everybody we 408 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: want to play should be eligible to play. Yeah, he said, 409 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: there should be much eligible to play. You just you 410 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: would have to fly there on your own. Yeah, lots 411 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: of there's a lot of a lot of a lot 412 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: of hoops to jump through for those So but that 413 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: was that was encouraging news, especially after you know, and 414 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't blame Michael Irvin for what he said, yeah, 415 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: because he looks at it is you've got to do 416 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: everything you can do and more to be successful. And 417 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: that was him, right, And and if you're not getting 418 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: the shot, then you're not doing everything you can do 419 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: to help the team be successful. They can't say that 420 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: you got to be politically correct because it's a personal choice, right. 421 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: But you know, Michael, you know, I tell you a 422 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: story on Michael. One day he lived in Carrollton in 423 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: the suburbs where I did. And I'm driving to the 424 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: ranch one day and I see it would look like 425 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: the biggest human being ever on the tallest bicycle coming 426 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: down the middle of the road. Right there was a 427 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: four lane road, and he was coming down the middle. Well, 428 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: he was still rehabbing from his torn acl and he 429 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: was riding the bike from and it would have been 430 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: ten miles for sure, but he was riding to the 431 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: ranch to get ready. And that was Michael that he 432 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: would do anything he could, short of holding out to 433 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: the point he missed the game almost to help this 434 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: team win. Everybody's entitled to an opinion, and Michael has 435 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: earned the point of which is what Jerry said, right, 436 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: if he speaks, I listen, and Michael Irvin has certainly 437 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: earned that. You mentioned how encouraging that is, at least 438 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen talk. But going back to the football field, 439 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott had some encouraging news or at least encouraging 440 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: news around Dak Prescott. He's gonna be a full participant. 441 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: This is something that we pretty much anticipated around the Cowboys. 442 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: But before we wrap things up here, what did you 443 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: think about what was said about Dak and not a 444 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: part of team drills throughout OTA's in the off season. 445 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: No surprise there, but he should be a participant here 446 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: in Oxnar we have to cover it. But I didn't 447 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: bat an eye last Yeah, because I was there through 448 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the off season program watching him do his thing. I stopped. 449 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I stopped having concerns about Dak sometime in early April 450 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: probably for like see him. Well, we're fortunate enough, like 451 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: where we work, you know, you see him working out 452 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: on the fields and the amount of stuff that he 453 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: does when nobody's around, So you feel good about that 454 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: and then he goes to OTAs. I know he's not 455 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: part of team drills, but you know that the scramble 456 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: drill that they put into there, he's running, sprinting to 457 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: the sideline and just torking and throwing off of his 458 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, off of his hurt foot sixty yards down. 459 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: Feel I'm just like, now he's fine. I don't need 460 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: to see anything else. So, you know, I've anticipated he 461 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: was going to be a okay for a long time. 462 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm just excited to see him go, 463 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: you know, and he's human. And I'll guarantee you when 464 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: he first started going out on the field and he 465 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: started doing you know, getting away from his rehab where 466 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: you do premeditated steps right now, you go on the 467 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: field and you're going, okay, can I count on this, 468 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, and you push off, and he's he's over 469 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: that the mental part. And I'll give you a good example. Um, 470 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: two weeks ago to three weeks ago, I played tennis 471 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: for the first time since my achilles was repaired, and 472 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: there were a couple of times when it was time 473 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: to push off and I was like, I don't know, 474 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: I don't do that right. And then the more you 475 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: played the you know, the more you get over that 476 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: mental part, right, And there was one point I was 477 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: running for a ball that was behind me and I 478 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: stopped and I go, I don't need to get that, 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, well, let's just see 480 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: how good it is. And I'm sure these guys go 481 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: through that, especially with torn acls. Absolutely that you got 482 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: to recover mentally too. And I think he's past that. 483 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: And he looks like because they wouldn't have put him out, 484 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: they were not going to say, yeah, he's full participant, 485 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, whatever is going on. If he wasn't ready 486 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: and mentally he's ready, I'll guarantee you because of who 487 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: I am as a person, I'm probably going to hold 488 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: my breath the first time there's a little bit of 489 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: trash around every Cowboys fanchild No, and that's that's human nature. 490 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: But he's not going to He's he's the most confident person. 491 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you. That defensive line or the defensive room, 492 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: it's like you see that red jersey you do not 493 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: get I know, you know, some of some of somebody 494 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: some well I'm just some of you old heads, like 495 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: I know it was it was a you know it. 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: It was a tradition for the Cowboys quarterback to not 497 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: wear a non contact jersey going all the way back 498 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: to Landry. I'm happy Dak's gonna be wearing red. I'm 499 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: happy Mike McCarthy instituted that rule because I don't need 500 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: any stupid reason for why he's getting smacked around during 501 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: training camp practice. You know. One of the one of 502 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: the reasons. In the old days, they used to show 503 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: up for training camp like a week and a half, 504 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: two weeks ahead of everybody, the rookies, and then the 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: guys that hadn't been there to let them get the 506 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: little fire out of them. Yeah, so they didn't like 507 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: ruin somebody you know that year the Cowboys and I'm 508 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: going to forget the guy's name, the g when they 509 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: drafted him at Smith they also had signed a kind 510 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: of veteran type running back and one of the first practice, 511 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: some rookie stand Smagala tears his acl takes a cheap 512 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: shot on the sideline because he's trying to show everybody, hey, 513 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I can play this right, fifth round draft choice or 514 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: something like that, and no, you gotta get that out 515 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: of you. You can't do that. You see four. You 516 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: can't hit four. You can hit I don't know what 517 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: the other guys numbers are, three, ten, seven, whatever, hit 518 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: almost whoever you want, which is just don't hit four four. 519 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: That's a good point. It's a good point, something that 520 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: we'll be looking at throughout training camp, and well, you 521 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be pretty busy throughout training camp as 522 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: well as The podcasts are officially back on Dallas Cowboys 523 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Dave, you'll be on the break tomorrow, Mike 524 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: Shots today, Mike Shots today, but column not not the podcast, 525 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: then joining you on Talking Cowboys on Friday, right for 526 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: the first time. Band back together, back together, Yeah myself, 527 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Rob Mackey on Talking Cowboys. There will be a group 528 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: of hosts back home at the Star as well, and 529 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: then David Hellman, Nick Eatman and Derek Eagleton on the break, 530 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: the normal break, and then they'll be doing the post 531 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: practice thing out on the Yeah we got, we got. 532 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: We're going all over the like. We've heard you all 533 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: whining about their not being as time. We get it. 534 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: It's been a slow six weeks, but we're back and 535 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: we're ready to go. It's officially go time. The green 536 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: flag has dropped we're in. It's time to time to 537 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: get after. It's special. Thanks to all of you at home, though, 538 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: for being patient and excited as much as we are 539 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: for Cowboys training camp, because there is plenty more coverage 540 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: coming up over the next three weeks and then into 541 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. But for now, for Chris 542 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: Beam in the back, for David Hellman, Mickey's back. No, 543 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from Oxnard, California. We'll 544 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: see you next time. I'm talking. Oh, there you go. 545 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 546 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.