WEBVTT - I Really Thought I Had Healed From This w/ Johnny Sibilly

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<v Speaker 1>Where sometimes I think we're in a space where we're

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<v Speaker 1>chasing the relationship to fill our cut.

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<v Speaker 2>People can feel when you are putting on them this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of expectation or this yearning, this wanting for something

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<v Speaker 2>rather than you know, two people just being around each

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<v Speaker 2>other and be like you know I was, I told

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist, I was like, I don't know that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever have someone here that I don't want to leave,

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<v Speaker 2>like my house, Like I want people to leave my house.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You know what we do here destroy shame

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<v Speaker 1>around sex by talking about sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let me tell you something messy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, wait, okay, before we really get into the show show,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say one, I'm just so grateful that

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<v Speaker 1>you're here and every week new people show up and

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<v Speaker 1>it just means the world to me that you are

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<v Speaker 1>vibing what we're doing here. And so I just need

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<v Speaker 1>your help because we want to continue to grow our community.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can do me a favorite and rate

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<v Speaker 1>review and subscribe to the podcast, it really helps us

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<v Speaker 1>beat the motherfucking algorithm ogay and get the show to

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<v Speaker 1>more people.

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<v Speaker 3>Get into their ears and your reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to be like a long essay you

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<v Speaker 1>could just write like, oh, I love the show, Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>is the best sexist fun whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it really really does help.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also, you know, y'all, y'all have been sending

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<v Speaker 1>me messages telling me that you've been sharing the pod

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends. Somebody said they shared the Caramo episode

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<v Speaker 1>one of their straight guy friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's motherfucking right period.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because they will try and make you think this

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<v Speaker 1>show is just for the queers and the ladies, but honey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's for everybody. And we know, we know some of

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<v Speaker 1>these straight men can use these conversations. Okay, then they

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<v Speaker 1>can stand to learn a little bit about the mess.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so that really helps rate, review, subscribe, and

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<v Speaker 1>share this podcast with anyone you think good vibe. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's really get into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a gym crush, well, I have a new

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<v Speaker 1>gym crush. I mean I always have a Jim crush.

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<v Speaker 1>My roster y I have. I have a roster of

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<v Speaker 1>Jim crushes.

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<v Speaker 3>It is ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>For some of the reason I go to the gym

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<v Speaker 1>is to see my crushes, to check up on them,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, make sure that our relationship is intact. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. But the last time I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>you all about a Jim crush was a while. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I talked.

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<v Speaker 1>About it on here, but definitely on Instagram, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like this past summer where my Jim crush, who

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<v Speaker 1>we had been you know, together for a.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, in my in my head, we've been together for

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<v Speaker 3>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, because I famously don't talk to my Jim crushes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a punk guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't. I don't talk to them at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just be. I just be creeping.

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<v Speaker 1>I just be looking and seeing them, spotting them or

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<v Speaker 1>watching them. So he asked me to spot him in

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<v Speaker 1>and a bench press, and then afterwards he confidently said

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<v Speaker 1>thanks TJ. And I said, oh, my name is Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like brand He started to short circuit, his

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<v Speaker 1>face started to like like spiral, and he was just

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, my name is Brandy.

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<v Speaker 1>He had swore that we met and that my name

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<v Speaker 1>was TJ. And so really ruined the fantasy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, up up to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, we were madly in love, you know, our families

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<v Speaker 1>loved each other, our friends got along. We were planning

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Paris to bench breast under the Eiffel Tower.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you call me another man's name, that is

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<v Speaker 1>just the fantasy was over. So I was in need

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<v Speaker 1>of some new gym crushes. But that's that's that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>life hack. You always have a roster of drim crushes,

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<v Speaker 1>so when one of them disappoints you, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other list to go back to. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Because men will disappoint you.

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<v Speaker 3>Honey, that's tea. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, So I have a new gym crush, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>We've been together for maybe six or seven months now.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him when he was taking a tour of

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, and he caught my eye because well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's six shut up, shut up, shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how I feel. Listen, it's my toxic trade.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I always say, when they're that tall, I

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<v Speaker 1>look up the blood rushes to my head and not

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<v Speaker 1>at goofy And this is no exception.

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<v Speaker 3>He's six four.

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<v Speaker 1>He gives very like East Village vibe, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>what I like because you know, I'm from New York.

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<v Speaker 3>But I live in Los Angeles, and Los Angeles has.

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<v Speaker 1>A particular breed of man here and it's fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I love a New Yorker because a New Yorker

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<v Speaker 1>really comes with the style, with the swag, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>they're in the village. So he has like an East

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<v Speaker 1>village alphabet city vibe, a dance survibe, but like modern dance.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what I mean, but that right, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The ballerinas of them all, they're a little more conservative, respectfully,

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<v Speaker 1>but y'all are whereas the modern dancers, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>experimental downtown dance. You know what, like a vegan he

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<v Speaker 1>gets very vegan. And I also mean that fabulously respectfully. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's like he hit the funky pants and he

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<v Speaker 1>wears the beads around the wrists and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he wears.

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<v Speaker 3>Like natural deodorant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, you know, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I said it, and you know what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when I say it, Okay, and you know I say

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<v Speaker 1>it with all the love in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fine as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been together for like I said, like seven

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<v Speaker 1>months or so, and I've never talked to him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll be on the squat machine, he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>bench pressing. I'll be on the treadmills, He'll be doing abs.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I will say about him, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call him. What should you call him? We'll call

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<v Speaker 1>him mister Vegan. We're doing mister Vegan. He never looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me, to the point where I was like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you gay? But he's he's gay, but he never looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me, and it's part of the appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>He don't pay me no mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He treats me terribly, and I kind that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my kink because in my real life, you listen, in

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<v Speaker 1>my real life, I don't play that shit. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to acknowledge all this good good or you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in my life. But in my fantasy, if you

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<v Speaker 1>ignore me, that's kind of hot. It's a little subdom situation,

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<v Speaker 1>a little disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to earn you. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>There's it's sick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sick, but that's why it's a fantasy, so it's safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he never pays attention to me, never looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me. You know, you know, I'll look over because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do with your Jim crush. When you

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<v Speaker 1>see a Jim crush, you look at them, You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to catch their eyes, and a lot of times you might.

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<v Speaker 1>But this particular gym crush, mister Vegan, he really play

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<v Speaker 1>a hard get.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Vegan.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't paying me no mine anyways. The other day,

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<v Speaker 1>was it yesterday or no? It was last week. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week we were in the locker room together. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the as as you may or may not know, famously,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a whole skincare routine. And the people that

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<v Speaker 1>go in my locker room, the man you know, are

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<v Speaker 1>you lucky if they wash their ass? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I'm in the mirror doing my skincare

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<v Speaker 1>of chine. And the funny thing is like when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing my like whole thing, I just see just

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<v Speaker 1>the droves of men who have taken a shower and

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<v Speaker 1>they've left, to have come in, who've worked out shower

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<v Speaker 1>and left, and I am still applying I cream. So

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<v Speaker 1>mister Vegan comes out of the comes back from the shower, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's in his towel uh. And he walks by me.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do I say this? Mister Vegan smelled like

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<v Speaker 1>like which was like b oh like he like it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was be o the house down in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that was frightening because he wasn't even that close

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like there was like there was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of feet between us when he walked by, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was literally just me and him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a me girl like, Listen, I smell

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<v Speaker 1>like amber and lavender, so and coconut oil and shade butter.

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<v Speaker 3>I listen, I know how I smell.

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<v Speaker 1>And he walked by me, which was introducing a new smell, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I caught it. I caught it, and my face

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<v Speaker 1>twitched up in a way I said, oh, Lord and mercy,

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<v Speaker 1>not not my man, not my man. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>strange to me because he also had just come back

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<v Speaker 1>from the shower. Now listen, there are you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have like medical conditions or things where it might

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<v Speaker 1>affect your boh. But the reason I know that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case for mister Vegan is because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after he dropped his towel and proceeded to put on

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<v Speaker 1>his clothes, he put back on the clothes he had

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<v Speaker 1>worked out in. Yeah, yeah, I'm confused too. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you confused, So I'm confused too. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all who will work out and get sweaty. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>do your squats, you'll do your lifts, you'll do your pilates,

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<v Speaker 1>your yoga, You'll get sweaty and your cardio in them clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll shower and then you'll put the same

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<v Speaker 1>sweaty ass clothes back on, which tells me that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a choice that mister Vegan. Mister Vegan, the bo

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<v Speaker 1>is is some kind of rebellion.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some kind of statement of resistance, resistance, resisting aluminum.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, girl. I was hoping for at least

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<v Speaker 1>even like a natural deodoran. But my man didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>put on My man didn't even put nothing on. Like

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'm in the I'm in the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>doing my skincare so I could see what other people

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<v Speaker 1>are or not. And he literally took that towel off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he went to the lotion pump that they provide,

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<v Speaker 1>and they provide the worst lotion.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I have a sidebar here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a gym don't have no black people working

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<v Speaker 1>on their beauty team if they provide lotion, like whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the big gyms or your little class gyms,

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<v Speaker 1>when they provide lotion and the lotion is trash, when

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<v Speaker 1>the lotion don't be rubbing in. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about? There are a couple of brands. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't name them, but they're the lotion is. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>wet it don't do nothing, and nobody says nothing. But

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<v Speaker 1>the black folk are like, what the fuck is this?

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<v Speaker 1>But the white folk are like, yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. That's how you know they don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>about us. Anyways, they put he put on that wet,

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<v Speaker 1>slippery ass lotion.

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<v Speaker 3>I bring my own lotion.

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<v Speaker 1>I bring my veno, I bring my shade butter, I

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<v Speaker 1>bring my almond oil because I cannot play games when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the moisturizer. So he puts on the

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<v Speaker 1>wet lotion that they provide, and then he puts on

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<v Speaker 1>his sweaty clothes and then he walks by me again.

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<v Speaker 3>My face.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the nosehairs, which I don't really have because I

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<v Speaker 1>shaved them periodically, but if.

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<v Speaker 3>I did, they would have fallen out. They would have

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<v Speaker 3>fallen out. And he left, and it really won.

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<v Speaker 1>We've broken up, we're no longer we're no longer together.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just made me feel like I need to

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<v Speaker 1>say to y'all, please walk please one please, How do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this? Please use soap when you wash. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say this. Please use soap and warm water when

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<v Speaker 1>you wash. Please wash under your armpits, wash in your

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<v Speaker 1>crotch area, wash between.

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<v Speaker 3>Your toes, and wash your ass.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't And also, like, because we talked about straight

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<v Speaker 1>man earlier, straight man, you have to wash your ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight ladies, please not eat no straight man's ass who

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<v Speaker 1>has not washed the ass.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to watch them wash they ass. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I had a straight girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, my man wants me to eat his ass,

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<v Speaker 1>but it smells. Girl, You got to tell him to

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<v Speaker 1>wash his ass. I don't understand why he's asking you

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<v Speaker 1>to eat that ass if he's not washing it, But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta tell him to wash it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're soap and water.

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<v Speaker 1>And then please don't be afraid of a little deodorant

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<v Speaker 1>and you could use that. There are good natural deodorants

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<v Speaker 1>out there if that's your vibe. If you but also

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<v Speaker 1>if you know that that don't work for you, then

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<v Speaker 1>you might have to bite the bullet and get a

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<v Speaker 1>little old spice. Okay, once a day in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>real fast. Just hit it, just hit it. But I I,

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<v Speaker 1>you are ruining our relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>You are ruining our relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>We we could, we could, we could be married in

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<v Speaker 1>our fantasy right now. But but you fucking playing in

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<v Speaker 1>my face with these smells.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fucking up the fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all this to say, because this really is

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<v Speaker 1>about me, I feel like he owes me an apology

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<v Speaker 1>for smell us so bad. Okay, this is it, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, welcome to the show. This is telling me

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<v Speaker 1>something messy. My name is Brandon cok goodness. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>call me messy mom, but you can call me a

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<v Speaker 1>scratch and sniff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, because I scratch that itch.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, make that doorbell.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't made that doorbell? Heaven?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, baby, you know what that means. It is time

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<v Speaker 1>for a guess. And while they get situated, I have

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<v Speaker 1>some fabulous news to tell you. Our podcast told me

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<v Speaker 1>something MESSI has been nominated for a Queerity Award.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't know what that is, it is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what you think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an award that celebrates all things queer, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are alongside some incredible and incredible, incredible queer podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can vote every day from now until February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, and I hope you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do so that we can win our little award period.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll put the link in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so again, you can go every day from now

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<v Speaker 1>until February twenty fifth to help tell me something messy

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<v Speaker 1>when its first award.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now let us do our hoe manifest stow repeat

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<v Speaker 1>after me aloud or in your head. Grant me the

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<v Speaker 1>serenity to unpack my shame, the courage to heal, the

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom to that sex is not just about penetration, The

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<v Speaker 1>audacity to advocate for my pleasure and boundaries.

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<v Speaker 3>The strength to not call my.

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<v Speaker 1>Ex that fuck boy, fuck girl, or fuck bay, for

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<v Speaker 1>it is better to masturbate by myself in peace than

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<v Speaker 1>to let someone play in my motherfucking face. Let the

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<v Speaker 1>community say, oh helujah, Ugh, I'm very excited. Johnny simply

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<v Speaker 1>is here. Actor and producer Johnny Sibley is known for

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<v Speaker 1>his charisma, versatility, and championing of the LGBTQ plus community

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<v Speaker 1>both on and off the screen. He was most recently

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<v Speaker 1>seen as series regular on Peacock's Queer as Folk and

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<v Speaker 1>as Wilson the water Cup in the Emmy Award winning

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<v Speaker 1>comedy series Hacks on HBO Max. Johnny has also graced

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<v Speaker 1>the small screen as costas Perez in the groundbreaking drama Pose,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as an appearance in season two of Eliza

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<v Speaker 1>on Demand. In addition to his work in television, Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>is a fervent advocate for LGBTQ plus and LATINX rites,

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<v Speaker 1>growing a considerable social following as a result of his

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<v Speaker 1>progressive and comedic voice that includes his popular online character Julisa. Y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>please make some noise for Johnny Sibley, hibb, you look stunting.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the skincare retine?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, uh stress, no ime kidding. Actually, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>taking these Ashwaganda gummies that I heard are really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Stressanda's teacher. I couldn't. Honestly, I think it's did you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, I don't know? We're starting great love it?

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<v Speaker 2>That is so that's so la for somebody like you

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<v Speaker 2>should be taking oshragonda gum. He's no questions asked, just like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I got it, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Somebody was like, you need some sea moths

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, bet Amazon, I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get that.

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<v Speaker 3>Moss from, but I will take it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that modo baby.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let me give you before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into our messy key key, let me give you our

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<v Speaker 1>messy mandates, which is, things get to be unprocessed. Any

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts or opinions shared have the right to evolve, shift,

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<v Speaker 1>or change today, tomorrow or ten years from now. And

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<v Speaker 1>if during the kiki something feels too personal or unintentionally offends,

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<v Speaker 1>we use to say word foosball, which gives us a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to.

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<v Speaker 3>Pivot and address or accordingly. Does that make that fun?

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<v Speaker 1>You got?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you played football foosball?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Oh my god? Are you kidding? I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>going to the Boys and Girls Club. That is where

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<v Speaker 2>we stayed, That's where the foozall was at. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I learned what was on this show. Yeah, I made

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<v Speaker 2>the safe word. And then somebody was like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I do not. Just like that. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know everything but we like the words. We like the words.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's start with the lube breaker, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like an icebreaker.

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<v Speaker 3>But are you down for a fun round of fuck

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<v Speaker 3>Mary Block. Oh yeah, yeah, we don't kill people here.

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<v Speaker 3>We just block them. We just we just a block.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so fuck Mary Block. Ass eating So sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>your face all fours or on their back, and this

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<v Speaker 1>could be you eating them or them eating you, but

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on your somebody sitting on your face all fours.

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<v Speaker 2>That can be a whole different uh, you know, lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll just go with if I'm the the one

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<v Speaker 2>sitting for dinner, I would say I would fuck the

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<v Speaker 2>face ride. Yes, I would marry the all fours and

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<v Speaker 2>I lock the on your back legs up. Oh but

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<v Speaker 2>that's so oh gosh. They're also wonderful. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think if I had to get rid of one, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's just nothing like that little arch back with those two.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see it, like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I do, I do. Yeah, and the and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the and the ride is is really very it

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<v Speaker 2>gives very much coming attractions, Like I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, it's like, are you gonna kill me? You

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<v Speaker 2>could kill me?

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<v Speaker 3>You could right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You can kill me right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of hot, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you, you know, or like, yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>life is in my hands right now, like your life

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<v Speaker 1>is in my hole right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I definitely on all fours.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not like it's assume the position like that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to marry that because that because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like I get like it's such a perfect the arch.

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<v Speaker 2>That she Depending on what the lighting is, it could be

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<v Speaker 2>really just like you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and the mirrors. Besides, both of us can

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror and see delicious. Absolutely, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say I will fuck the face ride because I

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like a good coming attraction. I like roller, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'll block.

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<v Speaker 1>The The only reason I'll block the on the back

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<v Speaker 1>is because I feel like you need to add like

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<v Speaker 1>a pillow to.

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<v Speaker 3>It, you know what I'm saying, so like we can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, sometimes I got to hold the langes back if

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<v Speaker 2>they're not you know, helpful in the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if they're not as FLEXI too, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it requires did you stretch before? So blocked that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last what you saying? Baby, let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this right now. He needs to hear this stretch

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<v Speaker 1>the way my hips and knees used to crack.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, no, this is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody like blow your back out and then you hear

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<v Speaker 1>popular It's fine, that's just my undergrad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just dandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, last one, fu Mary block kinks, blindfold, hand restraints,

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<v Speaker 1>paddle or whips.

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<v Speaker 2>Block the hand restraintsn't like that. I have not. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen too many movies.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the movie you've seen in the movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's not You're right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>To say fifty shades of gray. And then you said,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, never mind.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. Like like the same way I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to have my back to the door at the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting you tie up these hands. Blindfold is

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<v Speaker 2>fine because my other senses will be much stronger when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blindfolded. So I'm out. Fuck with that one. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the marry, I'll do the little paddles and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the things like the little whips and chains excite me, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Yeah, Oh you are so right. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>trust you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want them hand restraints because I don't mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, you're right, I have to trust you, have

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<v Speaker 1>to know you like going to like a first hook

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<v Speaker 1>up and then being like, let me girl, let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, thank you so much. Let me period.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hard fast for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I so let me say, I'll fuck the hand restraints,

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<v Speaker 1>I will marry. I'm gonna marry the spanking, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>block the blindfold. The blindfold isn't like I no, it

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<v Speaker 1>does do something because it heightens those senses. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like to see what's going on. I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I like to like, I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>what you what's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on a little bit, So I'll block the blindfold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, baby, guess what.

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<v Speaker 3>What you want? You want? You won the game. Congratulations,

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<v Speaker 3>you win my unconditional love. So lucky you.

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<v Speaker 1>Season two, there might be money, but right now, right

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<v Speaker 1>now we're just giving our.

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<v Speaker 2>Love is worth a million.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. That's right, y'all For everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have prompts, you can feel free to email

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<v Speaker 1>me at tell Me Something Messy at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, Johnny, will you tell me something messy

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<v Speaker 1>something messy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh. Oh you know what, I had a really big

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy of like uber drivers, lyft drivers, and yeah, finally

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<v Speaker 2>my fantasy came to reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait tell me the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I was, you know, because you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you always get a look at that picture and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like oh, or you're like oh, one day, one day

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<v Speaker 2>I was running errand's. I was so frustrated. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like I was in another world. I get in

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<v Speaker 2>the lift. I didn't even look at the picture at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, and then I'm just like in there on

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<v Speaker 2>my phone and I like look up and I see

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes looking at me in the rear view. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like oh. And then I like look at the

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<v Speaker 2>profile and I was like oh, like like the side profile.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh what, I'm over here in my own world.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally missed this beautiful And then we were just

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<v Speaker 2>exchange exchanging glands of exchanging glances, and then you know,

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the touching started to happen of oneself. There was no

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like reaching over. Oh you know, there was like there's

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<v Speaker 2>like levels to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So cause are you like, are you direct? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>behind the passenger seat?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct? So it's like you get that diagonical. You can

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 2>see what they're doing with their hands and whatnot, and

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 2>they can see what you're doing with yours. And so

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 2>we like pulled up to my place and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so should I come in? I was like no. I

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, but you can pull up over here. And

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 2>he pulled up behind Hamburger Mary's and he got up

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.880
<v Speaker 2>into the back seat and he's like, oh, I want

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to fuck you. I was like, no, I don't think

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what we should do now, but we could do

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the other stuff. So we we did, and then we

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, we both finished and he dropped me back

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 2>off and people was like and I was like, I

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I forgot. I really forgot.

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 3>You forgot to leave the tip.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I got to leave the tip, but he got a

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 2>different tip. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that's right exactly, you know, like that's obviously the easy

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, but it really was true. And I was

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>just shook. I like texted all my friends. I was like,

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I just with my lip driver.

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 3>That is my dream still either one.

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I accomplished that, like I you know, that

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>bucket list item and I was like, also, why don't

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I see enough porn about this. I mean, it's probably

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like it's frown upon, but sure, you know, everyone's got

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a job situate like a fantasy.

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love an uber fantasy because I love the

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean because you know, as somebody who likes to

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>be taking care of it's like you're already driving me,

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>which is such a such a loving gesture.

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 3>And then if it, you know.

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And late at night, when you're probably already corny leaving

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the party, you're like.

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm going home.

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I have my pizza and cookies. But then like your

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>uber drivers.

0:23:58.119 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Hot, you're like, okay, like I don't have to do

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 3>it work, it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, it is, it's right there. Yeah, that's the universe

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>being good to you.

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the universe loves almost I needed it. Ready for

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>messy mail mm hmm, okay, it is time for messy Mail,

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>where we read out messy patron stories and submissions.

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>As always, your submissions remain anonymous. One of your submissions

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>will be my messy pick for a messy key key,

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>which is a more in depth.

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Convote with Johnny. So.

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>The first one says, Bay lives with his parents. We

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>watched a movie while they were home and came seven times.

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you, how many times have you

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>come in a session?

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>In one session?

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 3>In one session, well, I think.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>The session lasted. I would say twenty four hours because

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>we leave the hotel room, and I think it was nine. Yeah,

0:24:58.440 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it's giving chafed.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your aftercare for your dick and your.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>More? I don't know, I honestly more well, I think

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>also when you're doing it that much, there is a

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>level of care that's being taken that's being taken throughout. Yes, so,

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>but there was definitely like two days where it was

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>it was giving uh you know, church.

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Chriss to speed.

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>It was like and not even like I don't know,

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>it just felt raw, like it felt like tender. It

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like there was any stabbing or anything like that.

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I just felt like, oh, I don't want to.

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, Like I've used this, I used

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and a little rest. Let the dick rest Sunday and

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday we rest. I think the most I've come

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in one session, which would have been a couple hours,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was like three times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 3>The thing is when I'm.

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Bottoming, you got one come out of me like that's

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of it. Like you go one time and then

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you get the fuck out of me here you ain't like,

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>what's that co Please get out of me, like you

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>got like five pumps. But I'll get out of me.

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And then when I'm topping though, I can, you know,

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I can, I can.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I can get you A couple I get I can

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 3>feel you up. Baby called me daddy.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>This one says, deep throated, the biggest penis ever this weekend.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>My throat hurts, but MESSI mom didn't worse a punk

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>shout out, what's the what's the biggest dick? You've thrown it?

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't know if I throwd it. Well, I guess, gosh,

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 2>it's been there's been a couple. I mean, okay, you

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>know what's funny, I think because there's been a couple.

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the biggest one. But I do remember

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>at one point being like, I'm bad at this because

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't you know what I'm saying. And I realized

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I was victim blaming myself, like I was you shot right.

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like they were just too there is too big

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 2>in my opinions. You know, I slapped it around. I slept,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Oh my.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>God, Sorry, I just pictured your like a cat like pause,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>just like that.

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, one of those things that you like punch

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and it comes back. I do those little like things

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 2>that with the have the sand in the bottom that

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 2>are like the swinger.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you punch it down and then it comes

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 3>back up.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I love that. See I love that. But I like

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to put it inside of any part of me, you know.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you like to play with that, right right, like

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. You like to hold it a little

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>bit talking like this, so big tap tap?

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to oh little podcast on that deck?

0:27:59.440 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I get that.

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>In another lie season two, our mics will be shaped

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>like dicks and no one will stop me.

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest dick that I.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Have sucked, which again was like maybe like a twelve

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>inchro but I will say it doesn't you know, the

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>throat has its limitations when you get to a certain

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like after a certain size, it's like I'm not getting

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to the ball. I meanan some of y'all can, but

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like, I'm not getting to the balls. Yeah

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>on this dick. So I'm gonna have to use my

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>hands and and and also like I will say this

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>if it's length that has a better chance of getting further.

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 3>But once you add that girth.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>To right, Yeah, my job is just.

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just not no, it hurts.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But do you even need tips for second me? Yeah,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>tips for a sucking big dick?

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Well I did. I did learn when you're taking it back,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you you you breathe in because when I breathe in,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you allow more space in your throat. Yawn, yes you yes,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like oh you just But I also I'm like never

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>trying to prove that I'm you know that girl, like listen,

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I you know I can try that in other ways.

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to be you know, the gawkak three

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand that you tell all your friends about.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I just need you to say it's good, like it

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>was fine, like I had a good time, you know.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But there's some liberating like they're fucking going to the Olympics, bitch, like.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Decinate, I'm trying to get that gold medal. I really

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>am trying to get gold and I'm gonna take.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 3>You out of the news if I need to come on.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I just like I so like I do agree.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the yawn. I always talk about the yawn, like

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like if you yawn. It lists your soft palette. You

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>get the dig further back, so when you're on that dick, yawn,

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you can get it further back. But also

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you at a certain point, you're like, listen,

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there are other things that I don't have to be

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>great at everything. You know what I'm saying, Like, maybe

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe you get a blow job here, maybe over there,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask eat, you know, like I don't feel

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>like I gotta you know, know your skills. You don't

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be a master, be a master of something

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>instead of a master of not you know.

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like there's also there was these I

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>went to a sex shop once and they had these

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like little mints that were like watering mints.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they make your mouth. Yes, god, those are great.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>If you've been out and you haven't had a sip

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>of water in a moment, it's good to just pop

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>one of those in if you're you know, at the

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>at the hookups house or your friend's house. I don't

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 2>know what you do, but yeah, it really makes your life.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>But but the mints they do, I've heard they're really

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>good for this. You know, if you smoke a little

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>weed your mouth is dry. Having the mints because you

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>need that, you need that water.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Is part of part of it.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, part of the success is that needs to be

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a slip and slide.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, exactly, exactly. Okay, we don't want no dry ass mouth.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 3>You don't want that, all right.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>This one says, Oh, just started a new job and

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy I was talking to one grinder and then

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:12.479
<v Speaker 1>ghosted is my new coworker. I have no no thoughts here.

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Rather than be kind to everyone, because you never know

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be your coworker.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>What I mean? Yeah, well that's also the thing. It's

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>like I would see I would play coy like I

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, like.

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember you.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember you, Hi, Robert, how are you nice

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to meet you?

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Thankful name? Hi Robert.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember you, right, And you know he'll he'll remember,

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Of course, because you got that. You know what I'm saying.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like, see of course, my my fucking toxic

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>guys is like, oh, an opportunity to try again.

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>She said, I'm I'm gonna give it a second whirl

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>in real life.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Who this? You can't go to no more.

0:31:54.320 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>No baby now report is I PM girl just sing back.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I just want to loop you with.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Wait have you ever have you ever run into somebody

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that you've ghosted?

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Wait? Hold on, have you ever ghosted anyone?

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Probably?

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we all have a problem.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I don't. I don't ghost people unless

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>they don't get a hint, like if they continue, if

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they're like messaging messaging, messaging messaging, and I like one,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't get back to all of the messages, and

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's just I can't. I really don't even

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>think I want to know this person because it's getting

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>cuckoo mago. But no, I don't. I don't think I

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 2>have watched someone be like, uh remember me.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Put it in the comments? Anybody?

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think so. I think I've definitely

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 2>run into people that I no longer fus with. But

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's very how you do you know? A

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 2>lightless yeah, or like the let me get it, oh,

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>let me get out of your way, hold on.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Obsessed? Yeah, I ran into somebody. So I had the the.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Most prominent ghost of situation is that where like there

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>were so many messages. Yeah, And I've already responded, and

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like, this isn't a thing. But

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>then they like kept messaging and then I ran into

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>them at a party and I wasn't expecting it, and

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>it was luckily I was my best friend because I

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like it was like I was walking to the bathroom,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they were coming out of the bathroom.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>We ran into each other.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Was like, h.

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's that's hard when you're like in close proximity,

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>like when you see them from across the room, it's easier.

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Actually, In fact, the I got ghosted once and that

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>guy I saw at Agbar and he was across the way,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and that was a fine way to see the ghost.

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I looked better, So I felt good

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>about it, Like, Okay, well.

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Great if I see someone that's ghosted me, rarely have

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I ever felt bad. I'm always like hi, how are you?

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>And I'm thriving? How are you?

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>You see me? You see me there up here? You

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>see that little rope, that little velvet rope. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>you fucked up.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>You fumbled this, didn't you. Okay?

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you could have been sharing his bottle.

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 3>You could be sharing his bottles.

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Cool sparklers.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Suddenly I'm having the best time.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this one says, A chef slid into my d

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>MS and I let him make me dinner, then eat

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>my ass and pussy for hours, which congratulations.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any fantasies because the chef is I mean,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.439
<v Speaker 1>everyone has the chef fantasy right now with the bear

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and all that, But fantasies.

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Of like who like, yeah, minds are minor, like toxic.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course I love it. Let's go a football player.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, like.

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I hate that. I hate that about myself. You're safe, listen,

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I yeah, I there's there was one time

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I was at my friend's wedding and there was like

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>a straight football player there, and that man gave me

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>so much attention. I don't think he was gay. He

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 2>was just attentive, and I was like, God.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>The night might be that night a football player.

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, wow, I really thought I had

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>had healed from this.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I like an athlete, a wrestler, you know,

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 4>like the single it's always I do think like as

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 4>queer folks or gay malebody men.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>There's something about being bullied, like your bullies, like being

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>bullied by the jocks and then having that. Like, also,

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of porn is like the two wrestlers or

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the football player and the basketball player, and so I feel.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, it's just it's it's clearly just born out

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of like they wear the tightest ship, so they're showing

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 2>off the male physique. It just so happens that they

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>are sometimes the bully. So if I'm really giving myself

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>an out here, I would say it's it's only toxic

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 2>because that's how society has made it. For me. I'm

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>just really enjoying the physique of I love those those

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 2>shoulder pads and the tight shorts and the hitting the

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>butts and things like that. So yeah, I mean if

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>it was a gay football player would be the same thing.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>That's funny to me that you're like the slapping of

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the butts was really about the football playing, not the

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>football itself.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Just like I'm not. I don't want to play football.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I just want to get my ass smacked, like.

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, snacked, you know, whatever it is, whatever it.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Is, it's absolutely yeah.

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think wrestlers jocks. Somebody had mentioned Barbers as

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy, which there is something about like the tenderness

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of a barber your head and also you know the

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>top of your head and your head on you when

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>they do your beer, it's very intimate.

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 2>And when they're looking at you and you're like what

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 2>do I look? What do I look?

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, like hey, yeah, absolutely.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And also I feel like, just like from the neighborhood

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in, I have like a fantasy about

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>those boys, like like like give me a New Yorker

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>down like Queen's Harlem, like you know New Yorker.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Just like that's a toxic thing, all right.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>This one is my messy pick, which says I want

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, I think, but I haven't had the best

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>luck with them. I'm feeling like it's me and I'm

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>picking the wrong guys. How do I know if I'm

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>really ready for a relationship or how do I become ready?

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>From you said you're not ready?

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Tell me what we'll tell me what you mean?

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Tell me that, because there's a lot of self doubt

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 2>in that, and I think you know it's it's it's less.

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I sometimes I feel like you have to pick you

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>first and foremost. You have to know what you want

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>out of your life before you start letting it in.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean, Because if you don't

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>know what you want, if you don't know, if you're

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>not there ready to be like, I'm ready for love

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>because I know that I have enough love that I'm

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 2>ready to give some more. My cup runs over, you

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So I feel like those are

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 2>oftentimes the best times to find a partner. But when

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I don't know if I'm doing this right,

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, at the at the end

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of the day, I don't feel like we're any of

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>us really know if we're doing everything right. But when

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't have enough self confidence in your choices, that

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think breeds a lot of great results when

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it comes to seeking out partnership with others.

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do you get ready?

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, it's so it It is so

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 2>cliche to be like, work on yourself, but it is.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 2>It is of the utmost importance in order to have friendship,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>have connection with literally anyone. It doesn't even have to

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>be a romantic connection. But I think the only way

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>you get ready is if you know that you're preparing yourself.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean that asking that question is a

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>step in the right direction, right you know what I

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>mean being saying I think I might be the issue.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I might be, but like know that that

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>that there's healing that can come from that that will

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>prepare you and will allow you. You might not be

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>fully healed. None of us are really ever there, but

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I hope we are. But you know there's Yeah,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 2>it's not about waiting till the right time. It's more

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 2>about like having enough trust in yourself that like you

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 2>got this.

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that you've like poured enough into your cup right right,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>because if we're not looking for perfection, like you'll never

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be perfectly ready. But it's like you've poured enough into yourself, no,

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>enough about yourself that you can make a decision about

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>a partner, a partnership, which I also think is that

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we think about boyfriend's girlfriends, husbands, wives,

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there's so much focus on the title and

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>no focus on the quality of the relationship, no focus

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on That's why I love the term partner because it's like, well,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to do this thing, like it's not

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just to be like this is my boyfriend, Like it's

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>where we're building something together which requires both of us

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to be doing work on ourselves, work on this thing,

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>just the way that you would have a business partner

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're building a business with. I think it's the

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>same thing that you have this romantic partner. And yeah,

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not about being perfectly ready, yea, but it is

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>about getting clarity around I think your intention too, you know,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like what is my intention of being in this relationship?

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>And what do I want? I don't know, like what

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I want.

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Out of the relationship because I think, like sometimes you

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>get and tell me what you think. Because how long

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>have you been with your partner?

0:40:58.440 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh, since December? So little over six nine months?

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, you're almost almost I mean by the time,

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you probably a year by the time this, yeah is

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>out right right October. Now, how did you get yourself

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 1>ready for that?

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Because I think, you know, it's funny the opposite.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I was ready to never have a partner ever again.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I was ready, I told my therapist, I said, I

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know that i'll ever I mean I wanted it.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I wanted it, and I thought I was ready. I

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>just thought, I don't think I'll ever have that again.

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm okay, like I kind of laid it to rest.

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>In a way, I said, if I if I'm eighty

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 2>years old, God willing one day and I can look

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>back at my life and say, ooh, that was the

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>summer of Jonathan, that was the summer of you know,

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 2>this was the I had many lovers in my life

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 2>that peppered my life with joy and love and passion.

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll have lived a good life.

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm okay if I don't find someone that person

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to spend my life with or whatever you want to

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>whatever society has taught us we have to have. I'm

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>okay with not having that so long as I have

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>given myself a lot of love throughout with people. You know.

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that really like letting go of that, like

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>letting go of that idea of what I needed and

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>what I've always wanted, allowed me space to really get

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to because my boyfriend, like I was like, no, he's

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>so much younger than me, like that, there were so

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>many like this probably won't work, and he just kept

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 2>showing me like, bitch, shut up, you don't know what

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about, you know, And that I feel like

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I was only able to really receive that because I

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 2>was able to let go of expectation and and what

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought I needed and wanted out of my life.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that that's so I've been talking

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>about this, and so my husband and I have been together,

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>We've been married for five years but together for nine,

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and we sometimes talk about like, well, how did this happen?

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>And I remember and here for both of us, we

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>were not looking for relationships, like I had actually sworn

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>off relationships. I was going on dates for material because

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>at the time I was doing I was trying to

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>do stand up. I was like I was just going

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>on dates with everybody, and so my energy was showing

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>up like I have nothing to prove to you.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like I'm just here.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>To be And that is when somehow I met Matthew

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and like it worked out. And I've been talking to

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple other folks who've been in longer term relationships,

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and there is this theme that, like when I asked

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 1>about the beginning of the relationship and where they were individually,

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>there's this theme that they're like, oh, I wasn't looking

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for anything. I was like I had, I was happy

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with me. Like they were satisfied with themselves and they

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>loved who they were and they were enjoying their lives

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and investing in the dalliances, the lovers, the friends, but

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like they were filling out their plate, and so when

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that person arrived, there weren't stakes.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 3>And there was also like.

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>About what you're bringing to this table, right, because I

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>love what's going on. So you're not going to come

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and interrupt the love that I have for the life

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm living. You have to be additive to it. Where

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think we're in a space where we're chasing

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the relationship to fill our cup, to fill our plate.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's like a desperation almost, but people can feel that.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 2>People can feel when yeah, putting on them this sort

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of expectation or this this yearning, this wanting for something

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>rather than you know, two people just being around each

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 2>other and be like you know I was. I told

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>my therapist. I was like, I don't know that I'll

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.959
<v Speaker 2>ever have someone here that I don't want to leave,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Like my house, Like I want people to leave my house.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Say maybe I like them being there, but I want

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 2>them to go. I like my space. But with Philip,

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend, now, like I was just like, oh, this

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>is a this is a sign when I don't want

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>him to leave my space. Yeah, I really enjoy him, Like,

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll be sad if he decides that he doesn't want

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 2>to be here anymore. And I was like, oh, that's

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>a turning point because I have not felt that, you know,

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. That's no shade to anyone else,

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, sometimes people bring out stuff in you,

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know, there was not There was not a

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of we were kind of just like doing it,

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, And a lot of my successful relationships

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>have been born out of like long term, like long

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 2>distance situations, and everyone's like, oh, I don't know how

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>you do that. I'm like, it's kind of not that

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>hard if you have the means to visit each other.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>But it kind of takes out the pressure of les, oh,

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>well what are we now? Like are you going to

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 2>meet my friends? Like it's kind of like when we're together,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 2>we are with each other, and when we're apart, we're

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>communicating in ways that we might not if we were

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>sitting right in front of each other.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I kind of think that this is controversial hot take,

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 1>but I wish that every relationship started long distance. Matthew

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and I our first year was long distance. And the

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>way the reason I said that is to say that

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>is because it forced us to learn how to communicate.

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>So by the time we were in the same city,

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we knew how to communicate through those hard moments, Whereas

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think when you are with the person, you

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>haven't worked that muscle sometimes and you let certain things slide,

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>whereas if you're long distance, we learn very quickly you

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>cannot let anything slide. Like also if you're long distance,

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like don't go more than like three or four weeks

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>without seeing each other, because you start fighting with each other.

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Like there are these things that you start learning that

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't learn if the person was you know, the

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of the love bomb of it all right, Like

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you meet somebody, it's really super intense, and

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>then when you hit the We were just talking to

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor Vanessa Marin and she was saying that physiologically, falling

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>in love is it looks like doing cocaine. But if

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it can only last for that first like twelve to

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.399
<v Speaker 1>fourteen months, and so after that, what is there?

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 3>So like when you're.

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Past that twelve to fourteen months, now you're like, get

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>out of my house. But you also haven't like built

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the muscles for communication, not to say you can't do

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that without long distance, but I think that it forced

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>us to figure that piece out, which made it very

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>clear if we were to be each other's partner shor not.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, look at us now, which you know I think.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I also, I don't know how you feel about this.

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I think in my before Matthew, like when I got

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>really clear that I was very happy with being with myself,

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>which was also born out of before Matthew, I was

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>in an emotionally abusive relationship for a couple of years,

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and so there was years in between that and Matthew

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of like healing and dating and like trying to find

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 1>a new partner and wanting to be in a relationship

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and kind of and then I don't know what I'm

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, like what exactly happened where I

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm done, Like I don't want to chase

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I read Rene Brown's Gifts of Imperfection,

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and I understood that I'm a perfectionist and I was

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 1>tired of hating myself. I was tired of like criticizing

0:47:55.880 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and critiquing, and I was tired of trying to shape

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>shift myself for a partner or for somebody else to

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 1>like me. It was just getting so heavy and burdensome

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>to wake up and be like, oh, I don't like

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>this about me, and if I do the change, syste

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>this will.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Make me get attend.

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a full time job to self criticize like that.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I think when you get tired enough, you stop,

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>or you find a way to interrupt it, or you

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>find the resources. You get into therapy, you read more books,

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you watch more videos, you talk to more people. But

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, if something needs to shift. And in

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that shift came a happiness with self. Not complete, but

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh, I found ways to fall in

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 1>love with me, which then now means that when I

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>am dating or seeking dates, I'm not seeking it as

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a way for validation. You are affirming what I already

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>know about myself, which is that I am lovable and

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that I'm a catch. And if I'm not a catch

0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>for you, it's not because I'm not a catch, it's.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Just money for you, you know.

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And like that's such a that's such a different mind space.

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think so many of us, especially queer folks,

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>especially women are trained to shape shift correct. But if

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I might encourage you listeners to check out Lauren Hill's

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>unplugged MTV Unplugged album from however, like from how many

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>decades ago, which it was it was a period when

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>people were calling her crazy, but if you listen to

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it now, all the things we're talking about self care,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>mental health, Like she was talking about it on this

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:36.800
<v Speaker 1>special and people called her crazy.

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.919
<v Speaker 3>But one of the things she said is she.

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Talks about the story about meeting a partner, one of

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>her partners, and how he had commented that she was

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>eating like a man, quote unquote, and she and she

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was just like, yeah, I'm eating, Like I'm not going

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>to hide how I eat to impress you, Like I'm

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to like take small bites to try and

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 1>woo the main because that's what we do in the dating.

0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 3>We we do.

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>These things and then we wake up next to each

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>other ten years later and we're like, who the fuck

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are you right? Because we've been hiding ourselves. And I

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>think there's a value in in just being and figuring.

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Out how to just be yourself, right. I think there's there.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's like I talk to friends all the

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>time that you know, because we're both very similar. I

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>think we're the friend that a lot of our friends

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>come to that are like, so, here's what's happening, and

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, yes, and I mean listen, I get so

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 2>much I get so much energy from that. But there's

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times a similar vibe when it comes

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of friends that is like I just

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm scared they're gonna see this. I'm scared that

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna come out. But it's like it will

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>come out no matter what, whether you try, whether you

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 2>put your best foot forward on the first day and

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't wear the clothes that you usually wear at home, Like,

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 2>eventually they're gonna see the sweater with the stain on it, baby, Like,

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 2>it's just gonna happen.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Because you are good.

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>There's only so much of a veneer that you can

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 2>put up before it starts to chip away, and they're

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 2>going to see the real you. Yeah, that's why I say, like,

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously, don't show up like whatever, this is

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>me bitch like. But but I would say, like, the

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>person that is going to love you is going to

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 2>love you, and they're going to see you and they're

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>going to appreciate you. Now. Not everything is going to

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>be you know, perfect, but there's you know, there's certain

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 2>things about me that like, I like, I eat like

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 2>a man. Like I eat, I don't My food doesn't

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>get very far, you know what I mean. My boyfriend's

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 2>always like he what did he say? Oh, we went

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to the movie theater. First time we went to the

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>movie theater together. I got popcorn and I was like, oh,

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you're about to You're about to see me eat like

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a crazy person on this popcorn. And he's like, so,

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 2>you mean like everything else? And I was like, I

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh. I was like, oh my god, he

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>sees me, he sees he clawed me, and like I

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>could have been like, oh my god, this is like

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 2>a slobby things I eat too much, but I was

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, you better you ate that, like because

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.439
<v Speaker 2>ultimately I felt more connected to him in that moment

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.399
<v Speaker 2>because we were you know, I knew it wasn't born

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 2>out of like you're a slob. It was more like

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I see it say.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 3>Like you like food, you like it food.

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like, oh I saw the way he ate

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't call him back like you know, which

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 2>is fine. If you didn't call me back then we

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't be together, you know. And I think people again,

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like you said, knowing that you are a catch and

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 2>you're lovable, that is that is the work right there?

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean that, I think you have

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to know at bottom line that you are worthy of love,

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:45.399
<v Speaker 2>especially loving yourself. Yeah, and we're we're taught like if

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you just fix this, if you just change this. We

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 2>live in a world of change and perfection. And if

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you just have a little more money or if you just

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 2>have a little more status, you're a little more body

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, less body fat, like whatever it is,

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you'll be more lovable. But at baseline, we are all lovable,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like truly, And if you know that, without a shadow

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 2>of a fucking doubt, sure you might want to change

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the little things here and there, that's normal. But if

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you have to just have to know baseline that you

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:16.760
<v Speaker 2>are fucking lovable, Yeah, that makes it so much less

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 2>scary to be yourself in front of other people. You know.

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>You saying that makes me go, like thinking about the

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:28.399
<v Speaker 1>words that we use, like change, growth, Like growth makes

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.359
<v Speaker 1>sense to me, change might even make sense, but it's

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the fix it right, Yeah, it's what we go, I

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta fix this about me. It's like, no, like that

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that is when we start to get into that self

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>critical it's like, oh, I got to fix that or

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>changed that about me to get whatever.

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like you can grow.

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>You might decide to do something differently, and that's growth

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>because you've got new information. But that still is you

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>pouring into yourself, whereas the fixing thing is like trying

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to take shit out right, It's like I'm taking like

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm pouring this all this good water, all this good

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>stuff out and I think never ends well because at

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>some point that it's like, you're gonna have to pay this.

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Bill at some point totally.

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So we can pay this bill at the beginning on

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>date one, two and three, or we can pay this

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>bill once we're now married.

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 3>There's got there's no prenup.

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.439
<v Speaker 1>At some point, the bill is gonna get paid because

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if we haven't shown who we are, it's gonna it's

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna run out at some point. If we're not talking

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to each other, if we're not communicating, that's gonna it's

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna reach it's gonna reach.

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Its limit at some point.

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 1>And then I think you know, I find it not

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>devastating because I think also we're all on our own journey,

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.280
<v Speaker 1>so it's nothing to say, oh, I did this wrong.

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 3>But I do get sad.

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>When I hear about people who are in long term

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>relationships and had just never questioned anything and then suddenly

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 1>felt blindsided because the relationship ended or kind of woke

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 1>up and was like, oh, I'm not myself here, right

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't. I've been drowning out who I am

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to kind of fit the mold of this relationship or

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>what people think about our relationship or to be married

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>or to have a wife or a husband. Like there's

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>society really gets us with that.

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also but we also get ourselves by not

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 2>asking questions and seeking answers, Like you know, when we

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 2>say like, oh I need to fix this, well why why?

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Why do you? And why do you think you need

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to fix it? Because usually the through line of that

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 2>is either it's it's baked in with some sort of

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like trauma or society or like someone's told you at

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 2>some point that you needed to fix this part of it. Ye,

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 2>your parent might have told you, well fix you you

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 2>stand like that, Oh sorry, I'm such a sloudge because

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I really got to fix that. It's like if we're

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<v Speaker 2>so worried about the fixing instead of really getting down

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to the nitty gritty in the bottom of things, you know,

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Like even in relationships, it's like why why haven't we

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 2>communicated about this? Like I was telling Philip recently, I

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.839
<v Speaker 2>was like, I just have to communicate. We have to

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to communicate in the moment, but we

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 2>have to talk about things because I've been in relationships

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 2>where things went unsaid and those things build up, build up,

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>build up, and then it gets so overwhelming. They're like,

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>now there's just there's just too much to talk about. Yeah, there,

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 2>you don't know where to start. So yeah, I feel

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like people just have to ask themselves much more questions

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like why do I feel like I should show up

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>on the state like this instead of the way I am?

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Like why why am I, you know, doing this? Why

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>do I feel like I need to lose five pounds

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 2>before I go on vacation?

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, I ask why is a really it's

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful three letter word that really will free you up.

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I always say, over communicate state the obvious. There are

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>no dumb questions like that is tea about community, Like

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>just over communicate, state the fucking obvious. There are no

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>dumb questions like that. To me is how you keep

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the relationship safe. It is like I'm not gonna assume anything.

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna assume your intentions. I'm gonna just ask

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the question, are you okay? Are we okay? This thing happened?

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to be like, don't let it fester? Is

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so important. My other question, my question for you though,

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:07.399
<v Speaker 1>is how did you Because you know there's a lot

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 1>of self care language around You gotta love yourself, you

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta feel worthy.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 3>How did you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's not a linear process, but what

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>are some things that you did to to learn how

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to love yourself? Like, what are some tangible things that

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you did?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's sometimes having evidence like evidence, and I mean,

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, even like when I was a kid, there's

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 2>certain ways I felt about myself until people started telling

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>me the opposite. And one of those things was my creativity.

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I was so creative and I knew I was so creative.

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And I loved art and I loved what I you know, acting,

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and I loved like making up stories and doing things

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 2>like it was true. Nobody gave me those permission to

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 2>do that. It was something that was born out of

0:57:56.160 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 2>my my curiosity, my why. So when I became older

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and I and those things started to happen for me,

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I started to like get a job or like not

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 2>even the job, but like I started to do to

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>do plays that really meant something to me that when

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I finished, I felt, Wow, I really like that really

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 2>felt so good in my body. And like you know,

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you have friends come and see you in

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 2>the show or whatnot, and you're like, yeah, I was,

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's It's not like I was seeking validation.

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 2>It was just like, oh, these people see what I've seen.

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes when you see a mirror of who you

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 2>were then and now there's like sometimes you know, some

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 2>people are good at certain things or you know, and

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 2>it's not only born out of like what you can provide,

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 2>but just knowing that you're like your your your inner

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 2>child has something that they know about that your adult

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 2>also is in touch with, you know. And so I

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like sometimes in my in my in my joy,

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I look for where where in my life I felt

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the most joy, and a lot of those those places

0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 2>are with self. A lot of those where oh, when

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I was a kid and I was running around the

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 2>trees were really really big, Like going back to those

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 2>parts of what I love about the world and about myself,

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I think really gave me a sort of a permission

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to be like, I really like this about me, you know,

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes it is you know, there are things that

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>are tangible, like you know, your creativity, or you know

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the way that you show up for people, or you're

0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 2>good at sports. Like just being just being in your joy,

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like gives you the permission to really understand

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 2>yourself a little better, and so then gives you the

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to be able to deal with the negative a

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 2>little better because you know the good parts that you have,

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, or the parts that make you happy. So

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 2>when things make you sad or make you upset, you're like, Okay,

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>how do I like conquer that the way I conquer

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 2>my joy? The way I know how to get back there?

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>And I I think like, yeah, I had a job

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<v Speaker 2>fall through, and I really sat back and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>why am I so obsessed with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Who Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Who am I if I don't have this? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I started to think all the way back,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, the reason I love this

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<v Speaker 2>is because I love me doing this. It's not yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just not this by itself. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>joy I get out of creating and doing that. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's life changing, honestly. I mean like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say that like with any hyperbole, like finding

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<v Speaker 1>your joy and like trying to remember where you've had joy,

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<v Speaker 1>and because if you think about it, and I'm this

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<v Speaker 1>inner child piece too, I always say like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know there was anything wrong with me. People told me

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<v Speaker 1>there was something wrong with me. Correct, Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you really think about like your two four vibe, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're just doing you and then people.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, don't walk like that, don't talk like that? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like your nose is this? I think about my

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<v Speaker 1>nose all the time. I used to hate my nose,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I asked the why question, it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody told me that my nose was too exactly, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that my nose is too big. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like people are projecting their bullshit on you or their

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<v Speaker 1>fears on you. Right, you see a boy being feminine

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's fears get triggered about that masculinity, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you tell that boy don't do that, don't walk

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and then that boy grows up feeling oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, I shouldn't do this, And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to. One of our mentors said, after I got that

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally abusive relationship, she said to me, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>your own parent, what advice would you give yourself? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out of this emotionally abusive relationship and I had

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<v Speaker 1>become a strange from my mother, so there was a

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<v Speaker 1>real like I'm on my own, And she said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now you have to parent yourself. If you were your

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<v Speaker 1>own parent, what advice would you give yourself? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's how we have to start. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is a path forward to loving yourself. Is

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<v Speaker 1>how do you protect your inner child? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>let your inner child who was the one who told

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<v Speaker 1>they're do this, they're do that they shouldn't do how

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<v Speaker 1>do you go back and rewrite that and say, hey, no, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the way you walk is beautiful, right, I laugh, perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>that creativity is gorgeous, Like how do you find that

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<v Speaker 1>joy again and be a parent to yourself who encourages

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<v Speaker 1>it as opposed to what you might have experienced at

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<v Speaker 1>home or at school, which was to bash it or

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<v Speaker 1>suppress it. We I mean is It's what's so insiduous

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this is that like the world or

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<v Speaker 1>somebody projects something on us, and then we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>do the work of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But it's also what we choose to pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because the same way somebody told us that

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<v Speaker 2>we were too talkative or we walk like a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>there were also people in our lives that were like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a great science project, Johnny, Oh, they should

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<v Speaker 2>be very proud of yourself. Why is it that we

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<v Speaker 2>give so much to the bullies but we don't give

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<v Speaker 2>enough to the people that have championed us. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sometimes it's when we get an award, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to thank the people that were riding

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<v Speaker 2>with me. But but ultimately, like I will even I

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<v Speaker 2>will look on a post on Instagram and there will

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<v Speaker 2>be hundreds of sweet comments, and then there's that one

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<v Speaker 2>one that's like, you have your teeth are weird, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, my god, I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I always knew my teeth were weird, but everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>is like beautiful, stunning, da da da, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>what I've chosen. And people will say, how come you

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<v Speaker 2>responded to this comment and not to ours that are

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<v Speaker 2>showing you love. Yeah, it's because that is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm used to picking that up because sometimes self harm is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just the easier thing. It's like, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you think you're bad, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see the bad part in that person. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're good, you're gonna be like, yes, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, you know, and I know that. I

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for affirming what, like you said earlier, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for affirming what I already know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, we really do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you can get one hundred comments that say

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<v Speaker 1>you're fabulous and that one says bitch, you suck, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, and I feel like there's I forget what

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<v Speaker 1>the quote is, but there's somebody basically saying if you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>like essentially like you can't accept the good comments without

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<v Speaker 1>accept like, if you're putting weight on the good comments,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to put weight on the bad comments.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Why it really actually is to start with you to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with, right that like you, you get to observe

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<v Speaker 1>what people are saying and when it supports, absorb it,

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<v Speaker 1>but if it doesn't, you also have to have that

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<v Speaker 1>cognizance like this is just another person who also might

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<v Speaker 1>be hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Who might be doing most.

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<v Speaker 3>Likely it's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Because also to fix your fingers to come on my

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<v Speaker 1>good sister's page and say some.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb shit you hurt, maybe you mad? You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh, if I can remember that, oh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that person is mad or hurt, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to take that on. That's also I think freeing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's how you again protecting your inner child, because because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's the thirteen year old who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to write back, right, It's like it's the younger verse

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself who got bullied for X, Y and Z,

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<v Speaker 1>who gets that commedy go.

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<v Speaker 2>And you did and might have not had your voice

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<v Speaker 2>back then. But basically I've got the voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the voice now, So I'm ready to go, but

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of have to go. Maybe I don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it's more loving for myself to not actually

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<v Speaker 1>engage with that and to remind myself that that is false,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it's so important to know what you

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<v Speaker 1>know about yourself and to do that work, to fill

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<v Speaker 1>your cup, to love yourself, to do take whatever steps

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<v Speaker 1>so that when you are ready for that partnership or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it's it's affirming even a partner, friends, like whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you're bringing into your life, that it's affirming what you

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<v Speaker 1>know about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and to know also, like I always say this

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<v Speaker 2>about friends, because there were times where I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just hanging out with too many people. I'm like and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not and I get home sometimes and I feel drained,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, Okay, I need to remember, yes, who

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with and how I feel after I'm with them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know if I feel like I could, I could

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<v Speaker 2>have really spent two more hours with those people, I

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<v Speaker 2>really could. I just love who I am when I

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<v Speaker 2>leave that environment. If you if that is how you feel,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like what I was saying. Remember how

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<v Speaker 2>you felt when you were a kid and you the

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<v Speaker 2>happiest moments that you experience. You can still do that

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<v Speaker 2>in your day to day like how did this person?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I feel better from this exchange or do I

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<v Speaker 2>feel worse? And I think that's really I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>also just you know, growing into yourself of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>understanding what you will and will not put up with

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<v Speaker 2>or want to be around. Yeah, not to say everybody

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<v Speaker 2>you know isn't great in their own way, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not feeling energized by instraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't mean the person is bad, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>judging it. But I've done that. I've really literally in

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<v Speaker 1>the last year, have cut out social engagements where I

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<v Speaker 1>don't where I know that I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>poured into correct because I'm also somebody and you're this person.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we show up, we excited energy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>to give all that energy and not feel like it's reciprocated.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean the people are bad or the place

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. Somebody said it, like, it's just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>my space but not my people. Sometimes right, like we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I like I like this party or I like

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<v Speaker 1>this viber, I like I like dinner, but like that

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<v Speaker 1>not with that person, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also like and the same thing with dating,

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<v Speaker 2>Like people are like, oh, I just hope that he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks this or they you know, I hope that they

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<v Speaker 2>What about? What about? What if you don't like them?

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<v Speaker 2>What if you is? What if the way they eat

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<v Speaker 2>is not what you're into? Like? Why is it that

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<v Speaker 2>we're always placating?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope this person thinks this? What about? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Always the chase? Can you flip that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like as actors too, right, Like I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>cast me. It's like, well, let me ask a question

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<v Speaker 1>to you, like how do y'all work? How do y'all operate?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this where I want to be take back that ownership?

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<v Speaker 3>And can I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>That is actually love? Like love is I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy. I want you to get the win,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's not with me, because because I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also gonna win and I'm also wins.

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<v Speaker 2>My win is my win, like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But like if this, if it's you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>not the wind together, I still want to see you

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<v Speaker 1>happy and I'm not gonna waste your time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna hold you. Maybe I'm not gonna hold you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't mind your thing? You know what I'm saying? I

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<v Speaker 3>love that?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here, the loveliest conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and please come back to La soon.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to to hold you.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a key, key and off mike, key key.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being here, baby, love you baby. You

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<v Speaker 1>know we're hose here, but hose with heart. So before

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<v Speaker 1>I get out of here, I would like to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to yours. You know, Johnny said so many things that

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<v Speaker 1>had me. I'm sure you heard me, just like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do a praise step. But you know some

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<v Speaker 1>of my big takeaways because you know, self love it's

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<v Speaker 1>talked about all the time, and it's to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where it can feel diluted and saturated, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that actually mean?

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<v Speaker 3>If I tell you to love yourself? What does that

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<v Speaker 3>actually mean to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I really appreciate just having some tangible moves.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your why? You know, the asking why a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why does it.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to be that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't it be that way? There is a quote

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<v Speaker 1>by Walt Whitman that I am going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful second to look up so that I can read

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<v Speaker 1>it to you, and it goes re examine all you

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<v Speaker 1>have been told in school or church and in any

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<v Speaker 1>book and dismiss whatever insults your own soul. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important that we question everything and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not. It shouldn't be in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a way of shame or or to fix right right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about growth, it's about evolution, It's about healing and

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<v Speaker 1>so being able to ask the why why do I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I need to lose weight or gain weight?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I think my nose is too big? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I think I need to do X, Y and

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<v Speaker 1>Z in order to be lovable?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? Why? Why? And again?

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<v Speaker 1>Gently you know, and see what answers come up as

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<v Speaker 1>you start to shift. I also really love finding your joy,

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<v Speaker 1>remembering what made you happy as a kid. What were

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you loved before somebody told you it

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid, before somebody told you that you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was that's gay, or that's this, or girls don't do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what did you love? What did you gravitate to?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it arts and crafts? Was it doing stand up

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<v Speaker 1>or doing stage work? Was it you know, climbing trees?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it hiking? Like? What are the things that used

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you joy? How can you come back to self?

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<v Speaker 1>How can you come back to that inner child. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, reparent, you know, we whether whatever your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship to your parent is beautiful, but like now in

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<v Speaker 1>your adulthood, you're inner child still needs that parent and

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<v Speaker 1>it's you they right, like, give up whatever fantasies you

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<v Speaker 1>have if you don't have a great really with your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>give up whatever fantasies you have about them, fixing that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't need to like, let them be who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You are now responsible for you. So if you are

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<v Speaker 1>the one that is self criticizing and tearing yourself down

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<v Speaker 1>and telling yourself that you're not lovable, you're not worthy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your responsibility to change that, to nurture yourself back

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<v Speaker 1>to health. And finally, I really, really, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been working. I'm a perfectionist. I'm a recovering perfectionist, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I say. And so sometimes I slide back like

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I consider perfectionism my addiction. That is something

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<v Speaker 1>that I am with no with no jokes, with no smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is my addiction. I'm very much addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have been working on how do I allow

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<v Speaker 1>myself to be messy, which is why this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>Messy Mondays has been, so I always say it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It means so much to me because as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I also love talking to you, it reminds me and

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<v Speaker 1>encourag is me to remember that it is okay to

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<v Speaker 1>be messy. And so Johnny framing it like, enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>mess enjoy it, don't You don't have to. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to just like sit in there and be like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the content of what I'm sitting in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you enjoy it? Can you find some joy

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<v Speaker 1>inside of being messy? Can you, you know, remind yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your first time on the planet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have some other beliefs, this might be your

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<v Speaker 1>second or third time, but in this consciousness, it is

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<v Speaker 1>your first time here. You are not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>it right. There is no such thing as right. You

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<v Speaker 1>won't fuck some shit up. You're not gonna be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be okay with that? And can you let

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<v Speaker 1>the journey be the goal? Can you let the journey

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<v Speaker 1>and the messiness be what keeps you alive your humanity?

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually beautiful how imperfect it is. Yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in what resonated with you, So feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to email me it tell Me Something Messy at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, or there's that phone line which you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a three six nine, six sixty nine messy girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to give you my real phone number. No,

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<v Speaker 1>don't call my real phone, bitch, call the phone line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got enough emails and phone calls coming in already.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay these texts, honey, But six nine, six sixty nine messy.

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<v Speaker 3>I pay my taxes. Don't don't, don't don't come for

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<v Speaker 3>me please?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get out of here, just another reminder

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, ask about the politics of that dick

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<v Speaker 1>before you make it spit, make sure they eat the kitty,

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