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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The gonna keep on try until

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Speaker 1: I reach my highest ground audition as the Bengals look

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Coming up, I'll talk to NFL Red Zone

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Speaker 1: host Scott Hanson about the demands of hosting seven hours

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Speaker 1: of commercial free football and get his thoughts on this

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Speaker 1: year's Bengals. My one on one player conversation this week

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Speaker 1: is with Evan McPherson, coming off one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: debuts by a kicker in NFL history. Dave Lapham joins

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Speaker 1: me to discuss the latest Bengals news and share some

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Speaker 1: keys to this week's game. And finally, it's our Know

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Speaker 1: the Faux segment as we discussed the Bears with their

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Speaker 1: outstanding radio voice, Jeff Joniac. The Bengals Booth Podcast is

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Speaker 1: presented by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game, and here's

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Speaker 1: pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since the new smoke

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Speaker 1: call them who end day. Now, let's get to my guests.

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Speaker 1: Up first, a former colleague of mine more than twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago at WTVHTV in Syracuse, New York, after we

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Speaker 1: NFL Sundays, the indefatigable host of NFL Red Zone. My

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Speaker 1: you the perfect NFL Red Zone game last Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: our coordinating producer, our our top producer on the entire show.

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Speaker 1: Die hard Bengals fan. Alan Flowers is his name. We

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Speaker 1: line gave up two, and then the running backs and

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Speaker 1: tight ends and the and the pressure packages gave up

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Speaker 1: three more. And that Zimmer and Paul Gunther, they break

431
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Speaker 1: protections down, They're going to try to work their schematic

432
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: and their magic and their schematic until they find the

433
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Speaker 1: right matchups. And they found some of those right matchups.

434
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Speaker 1: And right now, the Cincinnati Bengals are a dead lass

435
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League in sacks per pass attemptum

436
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Speaker 1: five sacks and twenty seven pass attempts to sack every

437
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: five point four dropbacks. So you know, part of it

438
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: is the opponent you played against, and you know you

439
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: got to got to solve that issue. But the good

440
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: news is Riley Reef and Jonah Williams played in an

441
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: dreamly extremely high level. There's no doubt. Only two quarterbacks

442
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: got sacked more than Joe Burrow in Week one, Zach

443
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: Wilson from the Jets, Ryan Tannehill from the Titans. Let's

444
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Speaker 1: move to defense. Guys that got high grades included DJ Hill,

445
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: DJ Reader, Josh Tupo, Larry Yogan Jobie. That seems to

446
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Speaker 1: suggest that the interior of the defensive line played pretty well.

447
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: They built the Great Wall of China man there. They

448
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 1: were good, They really were. They get pushed um and

449
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Speaker 1: I think I was surprised seeing how Ogan Joby the

450
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: Bengals had difficulty blocking him and his first step quickness,

451
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Speaker 1: and how I can tell you as a former lineman

452
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Speaker 1: that when you have a big guy three hundred pounds

453
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Speaker 1: plus that has that suddenness to him and that quick

454
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Speaker 1: first step get off man, that's a that's a that's

455
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Speaker 1: a load to handle. And they really took advantage of

456
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings interior and they did a lot of

457
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Speaker 1: the same things. He's not a very powerful guys or

458
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Speaker 1: the very athletic guy, so they covered guards and put

459
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Speaker 1: a nose tackle over him and got him in some

460
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: one on one matchups and he got he got physically

461
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: pushed around a little bit manhandled. The guards did at

462
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Speaker 1: times as well. The defensive tackles were able to get

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Speaker 1: a quick shoulder, a quick edge and upfield rush on

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Speaker 1: the on the guards, and you know, then they started

465
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Speaker 1: drawing holding penalties left and my DJ reader drew three

466
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Speaker 1: of them. Um so and Trey Hendrickson drew a couple.

467
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Speaker 1: His matchup on Hill on the outside was another factor.

468
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Speaker 1: I thought that he was consistently, you know, Beaten Hill

469
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Speaker 1: up the football field, so you have the defensive ends

470
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Speaker 1: and Harvard getting up the field too, and then you

471
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Speaker 1: push inside. It's it's really kind of I have to

472
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Speaker 1: tip my tap to Kirk, tip my captor Kirk Cousins,

473
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Speaker 1: because he put up some serious numbers, you know, based

474
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Speaker 1: on the pressure that he was he was getting so

475
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: because they shut the running game down and that gives

476
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Speaker 1: you the right to rush the passion, they rushed him well.

477
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Speaker 1: Cousins got the ball out of his hand and found

478
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Speaker 1: some plays, but not when he was throwing to the

479
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Speaker 1: guy that chittabey A Wuje was covering. For the most part,

480
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: he was targeted ten times in coverage, gave up five

481
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Speaker 1: completions for forty nine yards, no touchdowns. He was often

482
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Speaker 1: matched up against Justin Jefferson. We've been blabbering on and

483
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Speaker 1: on throughout training camp about how good this guy looked,

484
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: and for people that don't have access to watch him

485
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Speaker 1: at practice, he backed it up in week one. He did,

486
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Speaker 1: didn't you know? And I thought I thought defensively as

487
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Speaker 1: a whole, they played well, you know, and all training

488
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Speaker 1: camp were like, boy, the defense is winning. More of

489
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Speaker 1: these competitive battles against the Bengals offense. The defense keeps winning.

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Speaker 1: They're winning, you know, well over half of them. They

491
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Speaker 1: won practice yesterday, and oh the offense thought to come

492
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Speaker 1: back today, but they really didn't. The defense did a

493
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Speaker 1: pretty good job. We talked about how good the coverage

494
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Speaker 1: was all through training camp, talked about the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: you know, how much improved they looked. Well, it was

496
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Speaker 1: it was a fact, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: that the Bengals offensive line was struggling to the point

498
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Speaker 1: where you know, we thought they might be struggling, or

499
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was having difficulty. The offense in general was

500
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Speaker 1: having difficulty. Defensive playing damn good. And then when you

501
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Speaker 1: get up against opposition. They didn't play a ton of

502
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Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. When they did, they didn't give

503
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Speaker 1: up anything. And in this football game, Cook, Dalvin Cook

504
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: is legit, and they shut that running game down under

505
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: seventy yards rushing three point one or carry. I mean,

506
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's getting after it. And Minnesota stayed with it.

507
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: They didn't abandon the running game. The Bengals just stopped

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00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: it and controlled it. So I think across the board.

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned, you mentioned more than a handful

510
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: of defensive lineman there. For all of them to play

511
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: at that level is pretty pretty impressive. And you got

512
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Speaker 1: to give a lot of credit to bj Hill in

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Speaker 1: terms of how he grasped in a very short period

514
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Speaker 1: of time. You know what was going on, what's his

515
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: responsibilities were upfront. You know, it's it's not rocket science

516
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. I don't want to, you know,

517
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Speaker 1: make it sound like he's a football linstein, but you know,

518
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: for a defensive lineman, it's not that complicated. Is sophisticated,

519
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: but it can be you know, terminology and all those

520
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of things you have to sort your way through.

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00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: And he performed well. And another guy that has a

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Speaker 1: good first step boy has first step quickness and over

523
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Speaker 1: three hundred pounds himself two sacks. That's a I think

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Speaker 1: I think the Billy Price trade might work out. That's

525
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: a pretty good return for Billy Price. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Eli Apple. He had a stretch of

527
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Speaker 1: four plays where three of them went poorly for him.

528
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Speaker 1: Whipped on that tackle on third and twenty four, got

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Speaker 1: called for pass interference in the end zone, negating his

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Speaker 1: sake by a sack by Larry Ogan Jobi. Then he

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Speaker 1: got beaten on the Adam Feeling touchdown pass. Other than that,

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00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: was he okay? Or might Darius Phillips start to get

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Speaker 1: more time on the outside. I think the coaches feel

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00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: like he was okay when they when they looked at

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00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: the at the overall tape. But that drive obviously was

536
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Speaker 1: an achilles heel for him, and the old axium goes,

537
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: he can't let one bad play turn into two or three,

538
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: and he did and that drive it just you know,

539
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: turned it into It was catastrophic for him. It was

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00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: a nightmare. The only other thing is I remember a

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Speaker 1: play where he turned down contact and that's not what

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Speaker 1: you want to see, and that's not what his defensive

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: teammates want to see. So you can have, you know,

544
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: problems everybody. The other guys are getting beaten, you know,

545
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: getting paid as well. I should say to beat you,

546
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: and they will beat you every once in a while,

547
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: but turning down contact is is not a good thing

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Speaker 1: to do. So hopefully he gets all that out of

549
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Speaker 1: his system and um, you know, it's a he had

550
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a short sample size of of difficulty and because you

551
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: look at him and physically, he passes the eyeball test,

552
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: so you wind up being the tenth pick in the draft,

553
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: No doubt, big long, strong. But I think he has

554
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: laugh you know, I mean his focus or whatever. It's

555
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: the consistency. That's what you know. Every coach talks about.

556
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Got to be consistent. It's like you don't want to

557
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: be a coach on the sideline with the player out

558
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Speaker 1: there where you just keep flinching. Is when's the train

559
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: wreck happening. I know it's going to happen at some point.

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Speaker 1: Oh I hope it doesn't happen on third and twenty four,

561
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Speaker 1: you know those kind of things. All right, we've had

562
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Speaker 1: a few days to think about it. Let's go back

563
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Speaker 1: to fourth and one at their own thirty with three

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Speaker 1: thirty left in the third quarter, up by fourteen points.

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Speaker 1: I was pretty critical in real time on our broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I think the expression I used was I find it

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that they did There's something like that.

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00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I remember exactly what I said. I still think it

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Speaker 1: was a bad decision. I've softened on it a little bit.

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00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: To me, had it been closer to midfield, I would

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Speaker 1: have said, yeah, absolutely, go for it. They've still got

572
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Speaker 1: to get a few first downs, and if you do

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Speaker 1: get the first down, you might be able to end

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Speaker 1: the game right here like that, Zach said afterward, add

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Speaker 1: your own thirty. At that point, I still think it

576
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: was a mistake, agreed. You know, I think the risk

577
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: reward didn't balance the way you wanted to balance to

578
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Speaker 1: take that shot. And the biggest reason is the field position.

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00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Their kicker hit a fifty three yard or as well.

580
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: And these guys in the NFL, you take a chance

581
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Speaker 1: of your own thirty, you're automatically given up three, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then four plays later lou and a Ruma went

583
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Speaker 1: zero coverage and fourth and four and they get a

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Speaker 1: twenty four yard touchdown pass and there's no safeties in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field to help. You know, the

586
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: pattern that was run by theelan who's a very good

587
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: route runner and a touchdown maker, and he gets he gets,

588
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, matched up, you know with Mike Hilton has

589
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: a size advantage and everything that goes along with and

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00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: there's no safeties to help. So that was a very

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00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: aggressive call. You have a very aggressive call on fourth

592
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: and one, and then on the offensive side and then

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00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: the defensive side, a very aggressive call on fourth and four. Man,

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00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: keep him out of the end zone. Don't don't let

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00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: him have seven. If the offense put in that situation,

596
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: like I said right away, they could probably score three.

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00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: Make sure they don't get any more than three. So,

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00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: but how do you how do you criticize each other?

599
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: You know, the offensive quoting to look at the defense coorer?

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Why did you limp? You? You can't talk to me.

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Why'd you go for it on fourth and one at

602
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: the thirty yard line. But the thing that Zach said

603
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: after the game is it's all about an aggressive mindset.

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: We're going to be aggressive with our calls. He supported

605
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: the inter room was call on that play. So you

606
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: know it's I guess that's the way it's that's the

607
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: way it's going to be. And sometimes you get the bear,

608
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes the bear gets you. Speaking of the bear,

609
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Bears. It's off to Chicago this

610
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: week to face the Red Rifle. Andy Dalton, who was

611
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: mediocre in Week one when they lost thirty four to

612
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: fourteen to the Rams, through for two hundred and six yards,

613
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Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick pass a rating of seventy two

614
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: point nine. What did you see as you watched Andy

615
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Speaker 1: Dalton a Bear's uniform the first time. By the way,

616
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Speaker 1: Red Rifle, that was your designated name for Andy Dalton,

617
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: and it's become it's stuck out. It's one of those

618
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: nicknames that's going to be perpetual, stead the test of time. Absolutely, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: just a great call by Dan Horde, one of his

620
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: better calls of all time. But every time I see

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Speaker 1: and hear other people saying red Roads, I cause, come on,

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00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: give my man from credit. If I was, he should

623
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Speaker 1: have patted that bedboy. Yeah. At any rate, Um, what

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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I saw from Andy Dalton is things that we saw

625
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Um, very intelligent sees things quickly, gets the

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00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: ball out of his hand. I mean the ball is

627
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: coming out in two point one two point two seconds.

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Speaker 1: The reason that that feels isn't playing is in the

629
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: preseason against non starters, he had the ball in his

630
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: hand almost four seconds because he's having trouble diagnosing zone

631
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: defenses where he doesn't feel tentative. Dalton's got it, you know,

632
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: He's got the answer to the test and it's out now.

633
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 1: With that said, because of the way the Rams were

634
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: playing defense and Aaron Donald and all the other things,

635
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: We've seen this with Andy Dalton. He stretches the field horizontally,

636
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: but not vertically. I mean, nothing was going down the

637
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: football field. He finds holes and seems to throw into

638
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: But you know, you look at the thing. The thing

639
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: about the Chicago Bears, they averaged five point four yards

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: per pass attempt, thirtieth in the National Football League, and

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: then defensively they got just ripped apart twelve point three

642
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: five per pass attempt, dead last in the NFL. Stafford

643
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: just hit him for multiple gashed him from multiple big plays.

644
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: But it was such a contrast in offensive style. Um,

645
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: but that that's that's Andy. Um. Andy completed over seventy

646
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: percent of his passes, but for less than the first

647
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: half per first down per attempt. Yeah. Just you know

648
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna they are are going to buy formation and

649
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: designer for else. They will stretch you horizontally and you know,

650
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: thinks and dunks. It's like when he makes an intermediate throw,

651
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: it's like, oh he ripped that one down the field.

652
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's it's very different watching him.

653
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to see um naggy, you know,

654
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: scheme this a little bit um and say well, you know,

655
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: I wonder, can we throw the ball down the field?

656
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Bill Laser, former offensive coach here in Cincinnati, And you know,

657
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: he's got some incentive. Andy Dalton has some incentive. I

658
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: wonder if they'll try to stretch the field a little

659
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: bit more. I would think they would have to. But

660
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: at that point, will that interior pass rush, will the

661
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: edge rush affect Andy Dalton? He every every human beings

662
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: affected by the rush. But one thing you better know

663
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: is Andy's gonna get the ball out. He's going to

664
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: get it out right away. So if you can somehow,

665
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, take his first couple of options away from

666
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: him and if he gets to the third one pretty quickly.

667
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's talented in that regard. He's mentally about

668
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: as sharp as any quarterback in the National Football League

669
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: realizing what he sees. So it's going to be an

670
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. So the Bears traded four picks to move

671
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: up in the draft and take Justin Fields. He got

672
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: five snaps in Week one against the Rams. That number

673
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: is going to go up this week, isn't it. I

674
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: would think so. I would think so. And a lot

675
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: of his own read you know, he scored a touchdown

676
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: rush for a touchdown on the zone read concept, and

677
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I think he probably will. They will. I think they

678
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: will increase his package of plays, but I think they're

679
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: gonna make it simple for him. Then they're not gonna

680
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: be real sophisticated and the amount of reads the est

681
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: to make and all that. They're gonna put together a

682
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: package of players that will emphasize his athleticism and tie

683
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: them together. You know, a running game, a quarterback run game,

684
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, like a mini Lamar Jackson type game plan,

685
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback run game, where's plaquestion off of that quarterback

686
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: run game and the zone reason I think that, you know,

687
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he plays fifteen twenty snaps, wouldn't

688
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: shock me at all. So we've got a matchup this

689
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: week between the top two rushers in the NFL after

690
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Week one, Joe Mixon leading the way with one hundred

691
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven yards and Cincinnati native David Montgomery second with

692
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: one o eight. The former Mount Healthy High school quarterback

693
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: played college football at Iowa State. Is that the key

694
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: of the game, whichever one of those two guys has

695
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: the bigger day, I think it is. I think it's

696
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: a big factor in the football game. Both these teams

697
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: in Week one ran the ball well. The Bears rushed

698
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: it for one hundred and thirty four yards, tenth in

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they average five point two yards per

700
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: in so doing second best in the NFL. In Montgomery

701
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: on sixteen carries went for a buck eight second most

702
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: yards six point eight yards per carry, fourth best average

703
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: by a running back. I'm not talking about the running

704
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and receivers went and reverses and all that, just

705
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a peer of running back. He had a forty one

706
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: yard jaunt which is the second longest of the week

707
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: on the opening weekend. So yeah, they both teams ran

708
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: the football as we know Joe Mixon and in the

709
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: running game, the Bengals rushed one hundred and forty nine

710
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: Joe had one hundred and twenty seven of it. Bengals

711
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: were seventh in the NFL rushing after Week one and

712
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Joe leading the NFL and carries and yards so and

713
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: then on the flip side of it, both teams stopped

714
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Speaker 1: the run, which you know in that phase of it

715
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: is interesting to Bengals sixty seven yards allowed, sixth few

716
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: us in the league. Three yards per attempt fourth best

717
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: in the league. And then Chicago seventy four yards allowed

718
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: to the Rams tied for eighth few us in the

719
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: league and three point two yards per rush allowed tied

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00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: for seventh in the league. So both, you know, both

721
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: teams realized going to make the opponent one dimensional. The

722
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: only problem is Stafford's one dimension was pretty can. They

723
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: ended up allowing seven point seven yards of play because

724
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, they're allowing twelve almost twelve point four per

725
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: pass attempt, so there's seven point seven yards per play

726
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: allout is last in the league, and those twelve point

727
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: three five yards allowed per passes last in the league.

728
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: They gassed him in the pass game even though they

729
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: couldn't run it. And the thing is the Rams didn't

730
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: abandon the running game. The Rams were in it twenty

731
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: three times for seventy four yards. You know, they just

732
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to try to be but it was like

733
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: man throwing, it's pretty easy. Let's just let's just dial

734
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: it up and chuck it down the field. Stafford's passer

735
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: rating against the Bears last week one fifty six point one.

736
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: A perfect score is one fifty eight point three, so

737
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: not bad. One thing that scares me are the dudes

738
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Speaker 1: that the Bears have up front on defense, Khalil Mack,

739
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: former NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Robert Quinn, who's

740
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: got eighty two and a half sacks a team. Hicks

741
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: is a good player. I don't know if Eddie Goldman

742
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: is going to play. He did not play last week.

743
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: They're good nose tackle. So this was a playoff team

744
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: last year. I'll be at a five hundred playoff team.

745
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: But the strength of that team, in my mind, would

746
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: be those guys up front on date. Yeah, I mean,

747
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals defensive line was as good as

748
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: any unit on their football team. And the opener and

749
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I think the Bears defensive line is as good as

750
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: any unit on their football team unhealthy. I agree with you, Dan,

751
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I think a Kiem Hicks is he's a beast. I mean,

752
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: he's big, he's long's he's he's physical. Khalil max six

753
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: straight Pro Bowls. You know, over the last last three years,

754
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: he's forced fourteen fumbles. I mean, he's a he's a

755
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: turnover machine. I agree, you have to you have to

756
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: locate him. Uh. Roquan Smith is is a Pro Bowl

757
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: caliber linebacker. I think they have Pro Bowl type players,

758
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson on the back end, Jalen Johnson's a good

759
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: player at corner. They have excellent players, you know, at

760
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: every level of their defense. But I agree with you.

761
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's what's up front. It gets it

762
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: all started. And uh, it'll be interesting. Goldman opted out

763
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: last year and then you know, I wasn't able to

764
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: play in the opener, so I think I agree. I

765
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: think if he does play, it makes it even even

766
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: a tougher dynamic in there. And you know, Trey Hopkins

767
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: goes from Pierce to Goldman Man. That's a life in

768
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: the National Football League. It's going to be interested to

769
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: see which defensive line, which defense takes control of the

770
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: football game and makes life tougher for the opposition offense

771
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Final hard hitting question. Your thoughts on Andy

772
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: Dalton's red beard. I don't think it's a natural. I

773
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of I think there's a lot

774
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: of purchase color that's in that beard because it is

775
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: the richest red I've ever seen. And normally, normally guys

776
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: when they start to lose some of the color, it

777
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: starts in the beard more so than anywhere else. And

778
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: but if if that's the real deal, very impressive, Andy

779
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: Laska Nadley, It's time to take a closer look at

780
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, a team that's gone eight eight in

781
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: each of the last two seasons and lost its open

782
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: or thirty four to fourteen to the Rams. The voice

783
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: of the Bears, Jeff joni Ac, joined Lapping Me this

784
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: week on the Bengals Game Plan Show and says we

785
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't draw too many conclusions from how the Bears looked

786
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: on opening night. I just feel that there's a lot

787
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: of great unknowns early in the season, especially now with

788
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: the seventeenth week, maybe teams feel a little bit comfortable

789
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: in the knowledge that they got that extra game to

790
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: kind of sort things out a little bit. You don't

791
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: know what you're going to get from the opposition. They

792
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: certainly didn't know with you we're going to get against

793
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: the Rams defense being the reigning number one unit, and

794
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: they played to that level, and the Bears game plan

795
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: showed that they went with a short passing game. I

796
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: don't think that is going to be their offense by

797
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: and large, and I don't think yet we've seen what

798
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: the concoction is going to look like with Eddie Dalton

799
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: and a sprinkling of Justin fields and eventually when the

800
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: time comes, Justin fields to take over eventually at some point,

801
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: but defensively uncharacteristic breakdowns in this game, you know, I

802
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: go back to the twenty fifteen maybe one or two

803
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: big plays in the fifty hard range. They give up

804
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: two and a one game, which I have not seen

805
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: from a Bears defense in a while. And have a

806
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator who's never called NFL plays until Sunday

807
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: night in La So a guy who's bet with the

808
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: organization and Sean decide for nine years. But until you're

809
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: actually making those decisions, you just never know what you're

810
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: going to get. But I think there's a lot of

811
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: respect for him and special teams aside from the operation

812
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: that's the kick care of the putter and the long snapper.

813
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: They've been standard for the Bears. There's a lot of

814
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: new faces on special teams, a new kick returner, new

815
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: farm returner, cell still a lot to sort out. A

816
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: long answer, Jeff, do you think that the sprinkling of

817
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Justin fields will increase on a weekly basis? Can the

818
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Bengals expect more Justin fields? Snaps? Than they saw on

819
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: tape against the Rams. Or do you think, okay, Andy

820
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Dalton a lot of incentive playing against this former team,

821
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, M probably a totally different game plan.

822
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Well will it? Will it be Andy Dalton's game with

823
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of Justin Fields or will Justin Fields

824
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: sprinkling more? You know, I don't know how to answer

825
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: that one because I you know, man Naggie's going to

826
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: be very suspicious on that one. He just grins every

827
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: time you bring it up. And you know, the sad

828
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: part for me is, I really do love Andy dalk As.

829
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: You guys know you know him better than I do.

830
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: But I've interviewed him enough times and had time spent

831
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: talcket to him. He's just, uh, you know, the humility

832
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: is just oozing through his pooris He's a nice guy,

833
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: stop spoke and players love him. And you know he's

834
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna walk into Soldier Field on Sunday and you know

835
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: this fan base has been whipped into a frenzy since

836
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Draft night because of Justin Fields, and you know there

837
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: will be booze. There will be you know, the slightest

838
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: vibration of trouble for Andy will result in a lot

839
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: of chance for Justin Fields, and it's it's it's really unfortunate.

840
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: That's the way it is though. That's you know, fans,

841
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: I've ever right to do that. The media is also

842
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: part of this day have whipped most fans into a

843
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: frenzy as well, because every single day they ask about

844
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, and they'll ask Andy every single day about

845
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. And at some point it's like, Okay, let

846
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: the man just have his chance, let him play. Brought

847
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: here to start the sprinkling will be based on I'm

848
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: sure of this, and Dave, you know better than anybody,

849
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: and Dan a football veteran like yourself. On both sides,

850
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: it's about matchups and situational football, and so if there's

851
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: something that might benefit the Bears, you know, maybe Justin's

852
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: gonna get a few more, but I have no way

853
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: of knowing that right now. Sure our guest is the

854
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: voice of the Bears, Jeff Joniak, I'm with you one

855
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent on Andy Dalton. I think the three nicest

856
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: people in the history of the world are mister Rogers,

857
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso, and Andy Dalton. That's the big three. We

858
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: are going to see the top two rushers in the

859
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: NFL after Week one. In this game, Joe Mixon, who's

860
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: currently number one, and the Bear's great running back David

861
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: Montgomery who's currently number two. I think David Montgomery is

862
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: the most underrated player in the NFL, and he's only

863
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: appreciated in two cities, Chicago and Cincinnati, because he's great

864
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: for the Bears and he went to high school here

865
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: at Mount Healthy. But tell us a little bit about

866
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: David and what he means to the Bears offense. Well,

867
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: iOS are some very very great compliments, and you're not

868
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: far off in any way, shape or form. I'm in

869
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Iowa State grad so in addition to Mount Healthy and

870
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: being a Bear, I had my eye on him for

871
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: a long time. I watched every snap of his at

872
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: Iowa States. The content balance of this guy has really

873
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: been outstanding in college and it's transitioning to the pros

874
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: in the same fashion. I love his attitude. He wants

875
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: to be great. He's very serious about it. He goes

876
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: to the end zone and every practice snap, every single day,

877
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's ninety yards or nine yards. He's

878
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: merging leader. He is absolutely a guy that's going to

879
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: fall forward and not you know, lose yards for you.

880
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: He's really improved his hands. So yeah, I mean the

881
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: underrated aspect of it. He knows it, he hears it.

882
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a great chemistry with him and Matt Neggie.

883
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: They have a great relationship and a lot of great

884
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: things have blossomed because of that. And uh, you know,

885
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: he turned the culture at Iowa State, and maybe he's

886
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: the guy to help continue that culture change at the

887
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: NFL level with the Bears. So the Bears defense, obviously,

888
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: it's got some some players that are outstanding Pro Bowl

889
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: calibal players. I really like Hicks. I think he's a beast.

890
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: Mac is obviously six straight Pro Bowls, super beast. I

891
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: like Smith at linebacker. I think I think he's a

892
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, Pro Bowl caliber player at that level. And

893
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson, Jalen Johnson. I mean there's some some players

894
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: on this defense. Obviously, they shut the running game down

895
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: against the Rams. Did a good job in the running game.

896
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: But like you said, Jeff, the passing attack, the big

897
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: plays in the passing attack, I couldn't really tell. Sometimes

898
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: TV doesn't give you a real good sense of it.

899
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Was Chicago crowding the line of scrimmage, were they how

900
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: are they playing defensively? Were they loading the box to

901
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: stop the run and make it one dimensional? How are

902
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: they handling that? I mean, yeah, I mean and they did.

903
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: They may hadn't want to mention it, but Matthew Stafford,

904
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: you know there's all these discussions out there. The game

905
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: may throw for six thousand yards. I mean, you know,

906
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: that's that's the pie in the sky approach to it.

907
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: But you know they have a brand new secondary essentially

908
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: at the at the at the three cornerback positions. When

909
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: you consider that Jayalen Johnson is I did not not

910
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: finish the season last year due to injury. He's done.

911
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: He's the corner one Kindallville door, same draft classes, sixth rounder,

912
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: brand new starter started the playoff game against the Saints

913
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: last year, and Nicol was a competition that a veteran

914
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: Marquis Christian, who was a versatile player, a former safety,

915
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: place all over the field on special teams, beat out

916
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: Duke Shelley at least for this one game against the Rams.

917
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of newness to that secondary. And

918
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: so there were some metal errors and you know, you

919
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: can't have it obviously, and they are fixable though these

920
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: are fixable situations and how they played that game. But

921
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: like you said, they've got stars at every level. You

922
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: got the great pass rusher, you got the great interior defender,

923
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: you got real Kwan Smith. Eddie Jackson has not played

924
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: to the level that I anticipated both last year and

925
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: to start this year, tackling a bit of an issue

926
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: that has to change. And Dan knows how I feel

927
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: about safeties and the importance of them. But then there's

928
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: other players though, that are close to becoming very special.

929
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Bala Nichols, who's mentored by a key mix.

930
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, getting somehow another pass rusher involved.

931
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: There's a young guy, Kevin Gibson excuse me as Gibson

932
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: as a guy from Tulsa that I'm very excited about.

933
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: So they're in Jalen. Jalen has the chance to be

934
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: a very very good corner. So there's a lot of

935
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: great elements to it, and I think in this league

936
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: right now, the Nickel package is so significant. Getting that

937
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: ironed out will be a step in the right direction.

938
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: My final question for the voice of the Bears, Jeff

939
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: joni Ac, what's the biggest question mark in terms of

940
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: a position group in your mind on that roster. I

941
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: think I just you know, outline some of it. But

942
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: you got to go to the left tackle position right

943
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: now too, because you know they drafted Jenkins and he's

944
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: out with a back injury. I don't know when he'll

945
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: be back. Then you bring in Jason Peters. Larry Borm

946
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: did a nice job, but you know he was not

947
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: practicing today a quad injury for Peters. Elijah Wilkinson, a

948
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: career right tackle that twenty one snaps at left tackle

949
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: last week. Borm looked good in his fifteen So you

950
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: know it's hard when they began the season without a

951
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: left taggle with any NFL experience, and you know that

952
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: that is something that has to get shored up in

953
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: the short term for a long term success for sure.

954
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: So another great player that I think this guy doesn't

955
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: get as much credit as he deserves. As well. Alan

956
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: Robinson is as good at contested catch receiver as I've

957
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: ever seen. I think they get the guy I really respect.

958
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. Am I crazy? Oh no, no, why would

959
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: you be crazy? Big day? I don't know none of

960
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: the about underrated? I mean, is he a speed? Didn't

961
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: even know, but this guy gets open and he's always available.

962
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: Last two years, three hundred targets and he may have

963
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: had one or two drop passes, and he cleans up

964
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: your quarterback. He is a prose pro the most I'll

965
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: tell you what's most underrated because receivers come in like

966
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: corners with attitude, right, they come in. They gotta be

967
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: they gotta be cocky, they gotta they gotta own it.

968
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: And how many times have we seen receivers sucked themselves

969
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: right out of a game or a position or a job.

970
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: This guy is pure class. He knows what being a

971
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: professionals and he's had his ups and downs, and he's

972
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: had constant change at quarterback. He's had an acl tare.

973
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: He didn't get the contract he wanted, but you know what,

974
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: he just goes to work every day. And this offseason

975
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: he spent it trying to work on adding speed to

976
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: his routes in terms of his brakes, browed away from

977
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: the ball with yards after the catch, and just maintaining

978
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: that speed on his cut. So, you know, working on

979
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: things every year, and he wanted to you know, his

980
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: own zone. You know, he was not part of the

981
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: off season program. He did his own thing. I have

982
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 1: respect for that, and he's always willing to find tune

983
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: that engine, and I have a lot of respect for

984
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. Here's a quick reminder to join lapping me

985
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: for the Bengals pepper Ally Show this Friday from three

986
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: to six on ESPN fifteen thirty. That's going to do it.

987
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,360
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