WEBVTT - Almost Famous OG: Preparing for Special Forces with Nathan Adrian 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.560 This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.400 Okay, so joining us today. This is Bob and Trista 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:13.920 for Almost Famous Ogs and in preparation for the big 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:19.840 premiere on Wednesday, and with the show starting, I'm trying 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.040 to get all of my fellow castmates on Special Forces 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.560 World's Toughest Test to come on and chat about the experience. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.920 And Nathan, you're our number our second guest, and I'm 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:37.440 I'm so oh was for Stephen. Stephen Baldwin came on 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:43.000 and she added with us and I'm so excited to 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.879 have you, I mean, hello, talk about a career and 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.880 the perfect kind of preparation for this season of Special Forces. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.200 I mean in a way, in a little. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.560 Bit at least from the previous I'm seeing. Yeah, you've 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:03.320 got a definitive, a definitive upswing for your the first 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.200 things that they're showing on the previews. Man, it's such 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.080 a pleasure to meet you. And can you say thanks 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.440 for your service to an Olympian? I think you can, right. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.200 I don't know, I mean they're probably not super well 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:18.240 deserved compared to those in the courses. Yeah, I mean 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.440 it was the privilege was truly online. I mean like 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.959 I still kind of pinch myself, like what, like I 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.240 got to live this life and like just chase my 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.399 dreams and then like live it as like. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.240 A professional for a while. It was insane. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.440 Yeah, well, my wife was very excited that I'd be 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.880 in I'm Bob by the way, so nice to meet you. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.200 So my wife was very excited that I'd be interviewing 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.720 you today because she's also a cal Berkeley grad. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.640 Gore's excellent years. 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.520 Yes, she's much younger than me. So she just turned forty. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:51.840 I don't know if I'm even allowed to say that, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.160 but so she would have. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.680 Been I don't even know what years that would have been, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.680 to be honest, early two thousands. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:57.520 I think. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.080 And we may we definitely we probably know people who 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.800 know we have mutual connections, but I probably missed each 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:06.559 other a little bit. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:06.720 I think. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.720 So, Yeah, she was a skiing snowboard team person and 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.359 I did not know that. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.079 Oh yeah, that's so crazy. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.120 Yeah, she was in there. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.120 The ski snow team they are like they are incredible, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.880 Like the fact that they can somehow pass their classes 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.800 with the schedule that they run through in the winter, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.680 it's just like, give me a break. They drive up there, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.640 they ski and snowboard, then they don't sleep, and then 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.200 they ski and snowboard again, and they drive it back 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:31.680 and I'm like. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:33.359 It's insane. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.160 Yeah, they it's I mean, she loved it, like I 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.560 absolutely loved it. You know, her memories of being there 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.560 are pretty spectacular. So we always whenever we're you know, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.520 in northern California, we got to swing by campus and 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.959 then we go to that that little downtown area which 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.600 is right near you guys. It has like the pizza 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.440 place where they just tell you what the pizza is 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.000 today and that's what you're eating. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.640 Ye sliver. Yeah, Oh my god, I love that place. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.400 There's like a line around the corner every day and 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:57.799 you know you got to get there at like nine 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.920 am to get pizza by noon, and it's crazy. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:00.519 Yeah. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.000 Oh yeah, it's a great place. It's a great, great place. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:04.799 Awesome. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.119 Well, thank you for joining us. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.240 So we want to talk to you, obviously about special 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:14.600 Forces and all that in entails. Even though we can't 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.960 talk about what specifically happens and how long people stay 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.600 and those kind of things, but we can talk about 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.600 the details and so much that people saw in the trailers. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.840 Holy cow, Yes, first. I mean I was like, oh 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.160 my gosh, they're showing that. So so I would love 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.560 to know how you got asked And did you know 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.360 anyone going on the show before you got there? 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.320 Yeah, yeah, good question. It just came through my agent. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.080 I'm gonna I'm going to go out on a limb 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.120 here and say it probably wanted Michael to join, but 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.160 my agency is the agency that represents me as the 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.040 same agency that actually the same agency that represents him 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:58.800 represents me. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.880 I don't know which way I knew. I need a 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.920 phrasey yeah, I just I just taggle on for the ride. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.560 I'm sure he had something else exciting going on. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.600 And they're like, but hey, we had this other guy that's, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.800 you know, pretty good at swimming too, So how we 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:11.400 take a look. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.520 And that's kind of how it came through. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.240 And you know, at first, like we had we still 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.520 have two young kids, and we're like, wait, how many 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.400 days on the road, Like that's like kind of a 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.359 logistic like pretty pretty difficult. My wife's like she also 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.080 is like has a full time job, So like we 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.080 weren't really quite sure if it was gonna, you know, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:40.640 fit our family, and then it just like we kind 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.680 of pieced it together, figured out we had a lot 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.680 of wonderful help and grandparents and things to you know, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.920 give me the chance to go and have that awesome experience. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.839 So yeah, that's that's how I kind of came through. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.159 And I think I'm really interested to hear how everybody 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.000 kind of did this because everybody's timeline. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.720 I think we're pretty different. I had. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.080 I had a pretty good amount of time, plenty of 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.680 time to prepare obviously, Like you know, I'm used to 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.560 these four year cycles, So if I had four years 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.239 to prepare, I would, but you know, I had something 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.640 like two months or something like that, So it was it. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.560 Was still goodat for me. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:23.800 Yeah, I mean that it is. It is something the preparation, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.599 and I wish I would have done more of it because, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.159 as you know, for me, the really the hardest part 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.600 of this whole experience was the in between the tasks 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.719 running with our burken our rocks, whatever you want to 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.560 call them, running with those giant things on our backs. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.920 And for you it's I mean, you're what six three six. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.880 Four six sixty six. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.119 Okay six three dwarfs when you're when you're that tall, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.560 I'm five to two so you know, it's six three 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.559 sixty six whatever it is. Well, when you're six six 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.520 and you're carrying a thirty five pound pack, it's probably 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:11.320 not as traumatizing to your body as it is for 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:16.760 a five to two, you know, smaller person. But gosh, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.560 that was the hard part for me. And you know 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.880 that because you helped me. Oh my gosh, he's one 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.400 of my angels, Bob, he helped me. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:24.039 I love it. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.480 I mean he was literally holding my hand or my own. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.640 I'm so drying. No, it's so kind. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.200 I know, man, I'm glad you were there for her, sir, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:33.160 thank you. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.160 It really is like they're not pulling me punch us, you. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.760 Know, like people like people are thinking like, hey, maybe 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.800 they'll like adjust it for me or you know, well 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.360 we'll try to try to make it a little bit different, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.600 but it's just like no, and like. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.440 They it's just it is what it is. Yeah. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:54.960 I mean, I weigh two hundred and thirty pounds walking 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.479 around normally, so like a forty pound rucksack is really 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.600 a pretty not It's not like by any means, but 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.880 it's a pretty insignificant, like percentage of my body weight 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.960 compared to someone who's smaller than me. Like, if you 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.640 really were to scale that up, I mean, I'd be 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.200 carrying over one hundred pounds or something. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.360 So it's not. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.600 I mean I felt for some of the smaller competitors, 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.320 just competitors, I don't know, I don't know, participants everybody, right, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.120 just a competition is like as cheesy as it sounds, like, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.720 this is definitely like a competition against yourself. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.000 Like there's just no way to remove the cheesiness from that. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:35.680 But it's like so. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.960 True, totally so true. It is so true, and I 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.480 like that it's you know, like within yourself because you 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:48.280 really have to push yourself for yourself. That's kind of 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.840 one of the things that I was drawn to the 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.840 show about because if it was a competition against each other, 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.800 I knew I would be like, Okay, well I'm going 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.320 to be the slim Pickens, I'm going to be the 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.520 last one. Show isn't at the playground, you know, Like, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.600 but the fact that we can do this for ourselves 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.880 and have this opportunity. You're so right, you you worded 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.520 it perfectly. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:11.440 I'm just curious. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.080 You know, you said something earlier that I thought was 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.800 really interesting when you said you had like two months 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.239 to prepare and and I don't know, I don't actually 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.760 know Trista what your timeline was. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.320 But how do you prepare? 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.200 Like are you just is it one of those things 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.160 where you know, especially for you as an olympian, are 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.960 you focusing on the things that you don't do every day? 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.400 Because I mean, obviously you you know, a swimming situation 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:34.839 is not gonna you know, You're not gonna be a 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.920 struggle for you. So are you just thinking about like 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.559 every like movie you've ever watched, like Platoon, and you're like, Okay, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:40.880 I'm gonna hike hills. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:42.720 I'm kind of you know, like what do you do? 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:43.880 I don't even know how to prepare? 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.760 Yeah, I wish I would have been more thoughtful about it, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.320 to be honest, I really I personally was most concerned 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.360 about the running part because I am a horizontal athlete, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.880 Like I am so used to being in the pool 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.760 in like a weird, like kind of like role buoyancy 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.360 situation that might like joints are not really made for 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.920 being vertical and carrying that load that rock would have 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.160 definitely if I didn't prepare for those two months, my 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.200 knees and hips would have been really messed up even 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.000 after a couple of days. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.000 So I did. I did that, and I kind of 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.600 like I progressively overloaded it. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.160 You know, I only started with you know, rocking around 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.160 for a mile and took a day off, and then 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.120 I went another mile and then like increased that load 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.000 until it just wasn't that big of a deal anymore. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.120 But then the other training, I mean, I just stayed 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.680 in shape, knowing that like you know, I have, I 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:40.559 have a pretty robust like cardiovascular and pulmonary system that 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.400 I built up over thirty years of swimming that would hopefully. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:49.319 Carry me through. And yeah, I do, I do wish 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:49.839 I would have. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.560 Like looking back and trying not to you know, give 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.120 give anything away, but like probably should talk to some 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:02.520 more people and like designed like different scenarios based off 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.119 of their experience, or like found a coach. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.400 That was like prepared. It's really like, you know, I 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.760 found someone who was maybe. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.640 Training people or like special horses or Navy seal like 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.160 X Navy sealers preparing the next generation of that, and 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:18.800 be like kind of get a little bit of that 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:27.719 because it really is so different than sports, right, the experience, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.680 and I think that there was no way of me 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.560 knowing that without experiencing it, So yeah, I should have 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:36.920 done a better job of asking for help. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.160 I was asked. I think it was in February and 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:57.760 we left in May, and but I don't know if 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.840 we talked about this, bob. But medically they were not 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:05.720 going to clear me because yeah, so like a month in, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.800 maybe a couple of weeks in, I went through like 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:14.119 the medical clearance and I've had lower back surgery affusion, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.640 and they kept saying, well, we just don't know if 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.000 you're going to be able to how would you be 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.920 getting pushed off a boat? Is what they were telling me. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.960 And I was like, what do you mean like a 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.520 moving boat? I don't know if anyone's going to be 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.720 well okay with that? So basically I had to fight, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:39.400 Like I got doctors who did my surgery involved saying 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.880 like like telling them the medical guys over in the 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.560 UK because the production company is over in the UK, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:52.000 telling them, you know, she's fine, she's great, she had 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.839 this surgery and now she's amazing, she was better than 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.360 she was before kind of thing. And so during that 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:03.600 time when I was it was questionable, I actually stopped training, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:09.040 which I shouldn't have. I am so superstitious, and I 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.120 was like, I'm not going to train because then they're 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.679 not going to prove me to go on the show. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:19.320 So I totally screwed myself and those moments that I 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.600 just mentioned, like Nathan was one of my angels, the 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.680 running part, because I've never been a runner. I was 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.760 fifty one when we filmed. Like, I haven't been working 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.440 out consistently. You know, I'm not an olympian, I'm not 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.920 an ex NFL guy. I'm not a pro serf for like, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.600 all of these people that were on the show have 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.000 like some kind of athletic background. Even Ali was crushing 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.319 it in the gym before, like she was working out 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:47.360 three times a day. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:48.800 Wow. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.600 And anyway, so I share that sentiment Nathan in that 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.680 I should have. Obviously I should have still been training 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.920 when they were when we were going through the stuff 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:07.000 to get me approved but are cleared. But yeah, I 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.880 just wish I would. And I actually talked to a 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.640 few people, actually two people who had been on the show, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.240 Hannah Brown, who was also a bachelorette, and then Body 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.760 Miller is friends of friends of friends of mine, and 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.840 he was at an event and so I got to 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:28.360 talk to him in person, and he thought that they 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:35.320 were going to change the relativity of the weight of 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.720 the of the rocks for people. He was like, they've 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.760 talked about changing the weight, so maybe they would make it, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.880 you know, less of an issue for the smaller people. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:57.360 But obviously that did not change. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:53.520 You know. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.839 But you know, part of me is like, yeah, I, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.160 in all fairness, yes, but I have two friends who 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.640 are Navy Seals. They were on Seal Team six, like 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.960 they're legit, and one of them is still kind of 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.640 involved with Navy Seals. And he said that a lot 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:17.160 of women don't make it through Special Forces just for biology, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.800 like the way that our bodies are shaped, and we're 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:25.760 usually smaller, and you know anyway that women don't necessarily 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.920 do well in the Special Forces because of just the 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.280 like how our bodies are made. So I feel like, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.840 if we truly were going to Special Forces training, they're 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.680 not going to freaking change anything for women, So why 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.280 should we get any special treatment? 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:41.720 You know? 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.080 Yeah, Yeah, that's two sides of that coin. I mean 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:51.800 it just like it just would have been I think 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:52.800 it would have been nice to. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.240 Special Forces is hard in so many different ways, right, Yeah, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.000 so many different ways, but you would have experienced something 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.000 that was extraordinarily difficult if that rock was only twenty 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.840 five pounds for you instead of forty, Like, yeah, I 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.120 definitely believe that. So for the sake of, like, you know, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.360 the narrative and the storyline, maybe, But but then again 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.320 there is another aspect where it's like when people ask me, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.680 are like how do people ask you all the time? 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.640 Like is it real? Is it? Like? Are they how 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:24.640 serious is it? 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.280 And I'm like they like made it feel and like 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.800 the second that you exited the show, did it feel 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:31.960 like you came out of the matrix? 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.000 Like what's going on? 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:36.760 No? 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.000 Honestly, like when you are. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.040 In there, you are like we are the only freaking 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.640 people around. There are only cows. When you're in there, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.840 you just feel like you are in the middle of nowhere. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.120 It is only you and like the DS and and 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.600 you're like fellow people on special horses. And then like 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.320 the second you're done, it's like, oh, there's a car 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.560 like a Mercellan. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.320 Are you tips and stuff? 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.960 Like there's like hundreds of us all over here in 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.960 this tent that's just completely hidden and we're just making 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:17.040 absolutely zero noise somehow from everybody that's in the show. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.200 It is. It is a trip, man, it is a trip. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.800 You're right. But it's very similar to like all reality. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.040 Like I literally just did an interview for a girl 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.000 yesterday whose friends were actually friends and friends. I don't 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.480 need to get into it, but she's doing something a 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.960 thesis project, and so she was asking all these questions 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.440 of reality television and how real is it? And you know, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.800 all the same questions that everyone asks. And it's the same, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.840 like there are producers who are walking around on Bachelor, Bachelorette. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.240 You might be on a helicopter in a fancy date 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.400 and not a helicopter that you're jumping onto from a 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:57.760 moving boat. But but it is. It is very much unscripted, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.600 like you have certain as like dates on Bachelor, like 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.439 that you're going, you know, you're going to these tasks 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.000 and the cameras are just following you. The drones, I'm 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.200 sure there were drones. Were there drones? Do you remember 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.000 if there were drones? 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.480 Oh, there had to be some of the camera angles 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.280 that even the previous drones. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:20.879 Yeah yeah, yeah, so oh actually I think I do remember. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.840 Do you remember the drones? The for I'm not giving 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.800 anything away. The very first day on the boat before 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.119 the ship went down, I remember drones coming over the 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.920 boat and we were like, oh, shit's about to get real, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.440 Like we got cameras. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.199 That's funny. I do remember that. I do remember that. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:42.840 Yeah, yeah, crazy, So that's insane. That was what was 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.760 the hardest part for you, because obviously it's not just physical. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.880 There's there's the whole mental part, emotional. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:55.080 I feel like, yeah, man, without trying to give anything away, 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:56.560 I feel like I was just starting to hit my 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.520 groove because I was just so nervous and trying to 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.200 figure out feel everything going on, like right at the beginning, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.159 and like there's just this like weird thing because I 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:11.200 just have not experienced that much, like adrenaline just constantly coursing. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.640 To my veins and like a long time, really long time, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.680 and it was just so like. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.280 It was like in the Olympic world. It's so acute 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.080 and you learn to manage it. Like you are four 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.200 hours out from your Olympic final race. It's like you're 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.520 letting it come up. You're letting it. You're letting this 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.000 excitement enter your body, experience it, experience it, let it 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:38.120 hour you essentially, and then the moments after that race, 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.040 like everything you do is to shut it off, Like 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.000 it's kind of like a dimmer switch. You're gonna like 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.080 you're gonna go warm down, You're gonna do like some 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.200 breath work, you're gonna do like all. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.679 These different things to get your body in like the 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:48.480 recovery mode. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.280 But like this whole thing, Like for me, I was 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.400 just freaked out the whole time. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.280 I was worried about them yelling at us. I was 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.640 worried about like getting. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.159 Like getting like caught out in the middle of the 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:01.280 night doing this, doing that, Like I I didn't learn how. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.199 I didn't like practice that skill of like kind of 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.160 calming down after like the craziness. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:07.600 And then like. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.240 Towards like the end of my time there is like 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.880 when I started realizing, oh, like you know, the car 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.080 rides are you know, relatively calm, Like as long as 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.040 I'm semi ready and like my rough is packed, like 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.200 I can close my eyes, I can kind of relax 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.840 just a little bit do what I can. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.640 Did you ever feel like you could, Were you ever 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.560 packed and ready and you felt like you could close 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.320 your eyes? Because I could never fee I never felt that. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:33.000 I don't. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.720 I was closed. Honestly. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.480 At one point, I was like, I am not sure 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:42.280 that the perfection that they like can come to expect 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:48.119 is even possible. Was like maybe just maybe they really 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.879 just choose to like punish us when they want to 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:51.840 there it's too easy. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.159 Right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna find something, and like 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.160 it's not possible. Time my shoes right over left and 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.720 like someone else tied their left over right like okay, 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.320 punish ups like we deserve it. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.840 I'm sorry, Like I kind of I I eventually kind 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:10.680 of came to that conclusion. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.320 Maybe I'm wrong, but that's that's where it came for me. Yeah, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.200 And to your point, I mean I definitely did not. 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.840 I did not, like I would call any of the 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.920 times that like my eyes were closed at. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.760 Night, like just like meditation, not so much actual sleep. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.199 It was just like not even close to real real sleep. 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:33.160 I yeah, not, I didn't. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.560 Was it because you were just like thinking they're going 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.320 to wake you up, so you didn't even want Like 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.200 I'm like that when I have an early morning flight. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.919 You know, I truly didn't know what to expect. I mean, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.160 there was just so many emotions going through your head. Man, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:45.919 this is such a cool experience. I wonder what's going 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.280 to happen next. Oh my god, are they going to 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:47.840 crush us? 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:48.000 Like? 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.359 Wait, is that like someone's snorting right now? Oh, is 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.120 somebody getting up to the feet Like, Oh, the cameras 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:53.920 haven't moved. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.879 But are they still on? You know, all the all. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.000 The different things that like that just go through your 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.000 head that you just there's just it's a lot. We're 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.640 also in this big side there's like rat I'm sure 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.879 there were mice and rats and spiders everything. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:13.760 Oh everywhere everywhere. But I have to point out, so 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.960 Nathan six ' six and we're laying on standard cots. 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.040 Did you didn't have like an extended cot, did you? 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.080 I think cam and I I can't remember, but I 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.480 think they might have put like an extra like egg 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.120 crate or something apple crate at the end of it. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.840 Maybe, yes, yes, the crates at the end of the bed. 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.919 And weren't you guys like you guys were across from each. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.520 Other each other? Yeah, we were across. 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.840 Oh my gosh, like because because I'm tiny and I 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.480 can just crawl up in a ball pretty much anywhere, 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:50.399 but for someone who's six ' six and being able 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.560 to sleep on those cots is hard regardless. So if 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.800 you're larger than the cot, can't be that fun, you know. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:21:59.880 And you guys are all on the same like bear 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.320 type situation. You're on that same little room. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.399 Yeah yeah, and you couldn't leave unless you had a buddy. 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.520 That's right, that's right again. One of those things that 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.720 I mean I meant to ask. I meant to ask 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.520 at the reunion, like did that loosen up or not? 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.600 Because like officially you were not you were not supposed 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.480 to leave without a buddy, But at least those first 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:20.040 couple days you. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.600 Could kind of get away with it a little bit. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.080 People started getting a little bit looser with it. They 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.720 kind of like scurry and do their thing. 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.920 I know, I know. I was always like, oh crap, 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.520 because I am such a rule follower, and I was like, no, 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.720 don't get us in trouble by leaving on your own. 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:39.280 Don't go pee by yourself. You always had to have 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.720 a buddy. So we were in this one room was 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.280 our barracks or what they call it accommodations, and then 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.199 there was like a kind of like a like a 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.760 workout area if you will in the middle. But it 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.800 wasn't a workout area. It's like torture chamber, you know, Yeah, 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.240 the mud pit. And then there's a warming room because 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.320 we were in way hills and we were constantly wet, 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.320 and so you had to like you had two sets 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.520 of clothes and you had to keep one of them 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.480 dry at all times, so you had to keep those 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.120 in the warming room. And to get like prime real 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.840 estate is like worth a lot in the warming room 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.240 because there's like three little what do you call them, 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:25.000 like little fire pit stove, Yeah, and they to get 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:28.200 a place by those was like, you know, you're fighting 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.320 for your life just to get your clothes. 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.959 Dry, and you're like you're balancing this thing where like 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:35.720 you want to get it really close to the stove, 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.159 but you don't want to lay on fire. 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.480 Socks, especially putting the socks over the like the stove 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.920 door on the door. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:59.080 I mean, everybody, that just sounds brutal to me. 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.159 What did your kids think? Did you tell your kids 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.920 before you left or did you wait when you got back? 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.520 And how how do they feel do they know about it? 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:10.840 How do they feel about it now? 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.359 But too young? I mean, my yes was just a 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.639 little over three at the time, so yeah, yeah, it 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.000 was just kind of like Dade was gone for a 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:20.680 little bit. The youngest probably didn't. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.840 The youngest definitely, like I'm kind of the default parent 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:29.040 to the youngest one, so she missed me a lot. 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.639 But yeah, and I talk too, because even Wednesday, like 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.600 when this like when the premiere comes out, I'm we're 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.880 gonna they're not really old enough to watch it either, 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:42.399 go do some of these things. 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:45.960 So I think it's really just going to kind of 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:47.440 be in the back pocket. 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.520 You know, when the time is right, maybe we'll sit 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.760 down and we'll we'll watch it and uh and see 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.680 what they think then how about you. 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.800 I so all my my whole I mean, my kids 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:05.480 are older, obviously, they're fifteen and seventeen. So I talked 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.720 to them about it before because when I was trying 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:13.240 to figure out whether or not to do it, I 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.040 wanted to know what my kids thought. And my son 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.440 especially was like, cool, like you know, go do that, 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.960 that'd be cool. He actually is interested in going into 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.920 the military possibly after high school, so and Navy Seals, 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.760 And I honestly wonder because that is like a recent 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.920 discovery about him that he wants to go into the 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:40.520 Navy seals, and it was one of his hockey buddies. 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.680 His dad was a Navy seal, and that's where I 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.600 think it started. But I wonder if doing this show 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.359 maybe inspired him. I'd love to, you know, it'd be interesting. 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.520 I certainly think at least a little bit, and maybe 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.040 some of the research that he did. 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:57.639 Watching the other I mean, the other. 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.560 Season still give me goosebumps, Like if I ever like 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.639 if I'm ever like hurting, like walking on like one 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.560 of those days that you don't want to wake up 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.040 and go to the gym, like on the way there, 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.600 you just throw it on. It's ten minutes of it. 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:14.040 It's just a little bit little little goose Yeah, I 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.560 know this, I mean, this is going to be I 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.280 didn't realize that the episode is gonna be two hours. 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.760 Two hours, yes, so each episode is two hours and 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.960 they're only doing five episodes. So I think that's why 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:30.120 they did a two hour show. But if you think 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.160 about it, so Bob and I being from the world 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.560 of reality television, it's you know, part of our normal 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:40.000 uh vernacular. If you're will, if you will. But but 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.800 they they put so much on the cutting room floor, 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.720 Like two hours is really is so minimal compared to 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.280 what we experienced, Like, I really wonder what will make 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:51.840 the show Jesus past. 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:52.960 How many episodes did they do? 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.320 Was it always two hours? Five? I do think it's 0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:01.160 usually one hour per day? Is that right? Yeah? 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.600 Okay, I think so. I think they usually have one 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:08.080 hour episodes and it's ten episodes. Okay, so this time 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.840 they just it's the same amount of time. It's just 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.399 a longer episode in one yeah, yeah. 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.880 Just I think to your point, like I am, I'm 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.320 so curious because like the way that everything happened, like 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:25.359 it wasn't a linear timeline though, like people dropping out, it. 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:26.520 Was like insanity. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.200 And then I think they're the slowed down a little 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.160 bit so they might be able to dilate that time 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.600 that everyone was there just a little bit to kind of. 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.760 Tell the stories because there were so many, so many 0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.239 interesting ones. But how they do it, I'm not I 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.040 don't know. You got you all know if it's possible 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:41.840 a lot better than I do. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.919 I would think, Like the biggest fear that people have 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.600 a lot of times when they see themselves on TV 0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.760 is you know what they're doing in that moment right 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.479 like oh my god, Like you know, if you're if 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.320 you're like look at the camera and you got you know, 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:05.760 like stuff running out of your notes or. 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:06.880 Something, you got something in your teeth. 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:07.480 Yeah. 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.719 So like when you saw yourself and you saw when 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.880 you saw the package they put together for you, were 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.399 you you know, were you like happy about it or 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:15.720 did you look at it and you're just like, oh 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.320 my god, it looks so bad, or you know, cause 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.600 you're used to seeing yourself on the on the podium 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:20.840 getting a gold medal. 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:20.840 You know. 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:26.000 Man, I actually just add of necessity, I stopped watching 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.840 my own interviews, stopped watching myself on the podium. I 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.359 just experienced it through myself because I really I dialed 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:36.760 in how to compete, how to train, how to how 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.920 to do my swimming thing, Yeah. 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:40.640 As perfectly as I could. 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.840 And there were a couple of experiences where I was 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.120 paying attention to what was going on the outside, I 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.360 was being perceived et cetera that affected me and I'm like, 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.920 what what what Like that's completely out of my control. 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:56.360 So I stopped paying attention and and for this, honestly, 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.520 I I was going to ask you all, like how 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.000 how to do it like for me or do just 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.560 everybody have their own different way that they that they 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.560 watch because like I am going to do like a 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.719 little viewing party with some close friends and I was like, no, 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.920 I don't want to do this massive thing, Like I 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.720 don't want like every person from preschool there at the 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.800 same time, like like maybe just some of my closest 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.120 friends who see me in like vulnerable situations and been 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.719 there through through those tough times, just because like you know, 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.520 for me, it's it's it's like there's a personal aspect 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.840 of it there, like and on top of that, like 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:35.200 they had footage from US twenty four to seven. They 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.400 can make us look whatever they want, so it is 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.160 for me, I don't know. I'm just kind of walking 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.080 through it with like an open heart and open mind, 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.840 kind of kind of putting my trust in like the 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.000 producers and just. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.040 Saying it is, it is going to be what it is. 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.160 And then even if it's a perception that I don't 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.400 necessarily agree with or love, like I'm going to be 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.400 with those who know me the best, who know that 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:08.080 well they love me for some reason, and it's it's 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.400 not because there are lots. 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.880 Of reasons yeah, I think that's a great perspective to have. 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.360 I can share the same thing. But I think that's 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.400 how you get through it is you know deep down 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.480 who are your people and who love you, and they're 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.400 always going to love you no matter how you look 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.080 on this show. You know, the show will be temporary, 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.800 It'll come and go. People get hyped about it, and 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.200 then you know, twenty years later they might still be 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.840 talking about it. But as when it comes to my wedding. 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.040 But and you know all that. But but I think 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.640 as long as you stay grounded in your truth and 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.320 why you did it, and and I don't think you 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.000 can look bad on this show. I'm just going to 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.560 say that I don't think you can look bad. 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.320 Yeah, I'll tell you as someone who's not been on 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.200 it or not gone through what you guys have gone through. 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.240 But I definitely have seen the previews, and I've seen 0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:58.480 elements of the show in the past. 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.640 I will definitely be watching this one, by the way. 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.080 But I think you have to write that's the right 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.840 recipe for sure, Like whenever you put yourself out there, 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:07.800 you know you're going to have the people who would 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.719 never be in that situation in a million years who 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.480 are going to have opinions about it. So, like you said, 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.320 you put your blinders on and stay focused and you know, 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.600 on your family, your friends, the people that you love. 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:18.440 And don't worry about the rest of the noise. Right. 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.239 But at the end of the day, it's like, I 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.200 think it's a different world today than when Trista and 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.560 I were both you know, on the Bacherette and then 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.800 The Bachelor. It's like, you know, nowadays, it's like everything 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.840 is out there, you know, it's like and it's all, 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.040 like you said, twenty four hours of footage and you're 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.880 gonna have something in your teeth, You're gonna have something 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.720 on your face. I mean, you guys are in the 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.520 middle of it all, you know, going through the most 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.880 brutal training and everything that anyone's ever done. So I 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.880 think from that perspective, it's going to be amazing viewing, 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.719 like from a from a viewership perspective. And I just 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.200 I have nothing but admiration for everyone that signed up 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.560 to do this show because I'm looking at it from 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.320 the standpoint of, man, could I put myself out there 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.080 and do that? And I mean I've known Tristan for 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.160 twenty years and It's like when she told me she 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.680 did it, I'm. 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.960 Like, oh my god, how could you do this? Like 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:04.040 this is insane? 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.360 D you know because in my mind I'm like, would 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:08.880 I do it if they asked me? I want to 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.720 believe I would, but part of me is like, I 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.680 don't think I could get through it, man, I mean, 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:14.960 you know, I just don't think I could. 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:16.160 So I can only. 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.920 Imagine what you guys are going to be experiencing emotionally 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:19.680 watching it too. 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.280 So it's gonna be awesome for y'all. 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.960 I think I think it will be. 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.920 I don't know, like, did you like did you have 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:31.320 you been to a place emotionally in your like real 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.120 life in the last ten years where you were there? 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.040 Wow? 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.560 I was not. I have never been challenged emotionally like 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.800 that in my entire life. The only thing that comes 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:47.440 close is it took me a really long time to 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.600 get pregnant. That was hard. I had a really difficult 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:55.040 delivery with my first and then I had a seizure 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.720 about seven years ago on vacation. It's we don't even 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.920 need to get into it, but that that the seizure 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.360 was probably like because it was like I and I 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.400 could have died in my delivery too, but I faced 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:13.440 it like I actually have a whole thing where I 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.400 think it was a near death experience because I went 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:21.200 to this place of white euphoria and it. Yeah, so 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.520 I feel like I was very close to death in 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:28.959 that moment. And that is the only comparison, because I 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:33.160 feel like you are pushed so freaking hard on the show, 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:37.120 and not just like in trying to keep up in 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.400 like the guy's yelling at you. You know, you see 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.240 in the trailer where Q is like right next to me, 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.160 like and I've told people about this, how I'm trying 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.160 to get out of the beach. I'm trying to leave 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.160 and he is literally right there being like you shouldn't 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.480 be here, hurry up. Everyone's waiting for you, like all 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.600 you know, all the things and all the things that 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.200 I'm already telling myself in my head like I shouldn't 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.600 be here. I'm a burden, like all you know, all 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.960 of these things. But I think that's why they do it. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:13.160 Tell me if you feel the same way, because so 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.520 in the trailer, you hear me say, you know, I'm 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.920 talking to my devil and my angel on my shoulder, 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:23.240 right and so human nature. It's human nature. I feel 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:28.560 like to doubt yourself. You're gonna have these doubts, like 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:33.200 the devil is constantly saying, you can't keep up with everybody, 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.280 You should not be here. Why are you doing this show? 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.760 This is stupid, you know, And so you're telling yourself 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.040 all of these things already. I think that they tell 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.920 you those things as not inside your body. They're telling 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:52.480 you so that you can say, Hugh, I'm gonna I'm 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.839 gonna prove you wrong, and so you can find an 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.839 inner strength to fight against somebody else, because it's really 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.239 hard to fight against your self sometimes. But if you 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.759 can put that like onus, on somebody else and be like, 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.120 screw off, I'm gonna I'm gonna prove you wrong and 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.000 I'm going to do this. How what's your What are 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.200 your thoughts on that? 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.440 That's I love that. I think we probably we have 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:16.479 really similar thoughts. 0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.319 Ex that mine just come from this place of like 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.920 physical performance, because that's like my entire life and like 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.000 the lens of that through which I see everything. 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.440 And honestly I'm trying I'm. 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.120 Trying to kind of shift that perspective into maybe like 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:35.680 more like real life things parenting and running business and 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.880 all those sorts of things. But like for me, I 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.480 mean there was just like I really had I after retiring, 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.080 I didn't really realize. 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.719 Like how much I missed having a coach. 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.120 And like and I like journaled for like a day 0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:56.480 or two afterwards, and just like because I whatever whatever 0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:01.200 after I was, I can't because it kind of gives away. 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.080 When I when I understood, but. 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.920 I really realized that, Hey, like I along with other people, 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:09.400 and I don't know if it's if it's to a 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.359 greater degree than anybody, but a told people pleaser and 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.080 then like once you find a safe place to be 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:16.960 that because like in real life you're kind of like 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.919 people pleaser. But like am I like is this too much? 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.880 Is this like not enough? Like is this weird balance? 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.160 Like you're driving and you're like should I have like 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.360 let that person go in front of me or not? 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.960 Like wait a minute, you know, and like but in 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:36.120 this situation, it's just like I, I mean, I trusted 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.919 the DS with my life, and I believed them when 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.240 they said that they could bring you to a place 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:43.600 that you've never been before. 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.880 And I think those two things like really brought me 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.560 to a place where I was like, holy crap either right, 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:50.600 like it. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.200 Was it was crazy. I mean in one of the. 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.600 One of the moments, like I was carrying a log 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.040 by myself and. 0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.719 Like Billy was screaming at me to like brody, and 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.680 I was like like turn it on the turbo. 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.279 And then I was like wait, hold up, like yet, 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.360 like that's crazy because for me, I thought I was 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.759 running as fast as I could Billy told me to 0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.239 turn on the turbo. But then there was it was 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.000 a little devil in my head that was like yo, 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.359 like you turn on the turbo too much, like. 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:17.440 You know what can happen? 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.799 And I think, like you talking about body a little bit, 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.960 Like that's that's where my mind went because like a 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.360 lot of the athletes do have this ability to like 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.960 to go turbo a little bit to the point where 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.040 they're going to hurt themselves. 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.239 So I like I turned it on. I started catching him, and. 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.200 Then I was like wait, hold on, Like that was 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.560 a really cool thing, but like we're we're not done 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.680 here yet. We might have like an hour or two 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.480 longer of this, like let's just get this log too 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.640 over there. But like that moment actually really sticks with me. 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.600 As I like reflect on my time, then I'm like, 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.719 in a way, I'm like, yeah, like I still got it, 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.120 like that that little like extra gear is still there 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.960 and it is so hard to reach when you're in 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.040 a gym and where I work out. 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.359 Isn't necessarily a lot of young people. 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.080 That I go or something like I just don't have that, 0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:14.279 and like having that like oh that's right, like let's 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:21.640 fucking go kind of spirit mentality was just so refreshing 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:28.600 because the grind and absolute marathon of parenting two young children, 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.320 you don't have a lot of the LFG moments except 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:35.760 for like LFG exercise your patience more tonight. 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.200 I mean like last night, I think bedtime. 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.680 Took like over two hours and I slept on a 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.880 twin bed speaking of a cot just because we're having 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.080 some issues with climbing out of cribs and things. 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.400 Yeah, I have like LFG moments all the time for 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.080 like bluey marathons and things like that, so I get it. 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.480 At least it is blue. Oh my gosh, we had 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.840 to make the transition to blue. Like gosh, that's a 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.239 whole other topic that we could talk about forever of 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.719 the programming. That just automatically pops up now is absurd. 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:09.080 It's just like it's drugs and is drugs for my kids, 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.279 and like I we try not to do. We just 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.160 finished the holidays, Like forgive me sorry, I let them 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.759 have some screen time, but like we've got to re 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.399 let back in. Holy crap some of that. Yeah, it's 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:21.280 just wild. 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:26.839 That's hard to do too, Okay. I love your perspective, 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:31.120 and I feel like that is so true that had 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.880 like thinking about that moment where Q is just yelling 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.240 his head off at me, and I'm going, I'm crying 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:42.320 the whole time, but I'm going, had it been real life, 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.719 totally would have stopped and been like Ryan, can you 0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:46.680 carry my backpack? 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:47.200 You know? 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.160 And and I'll. 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.239 Get there when I get there, and I'm not going 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.680 to cry about it, you know. But you're so right 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.760 that I think that is one of my learning lessons 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.040 looking back, and I love that. That's kind of what 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.600 you've taken away too, is that you do have the 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:07.000 capability to push yourself harder than you ever thought you could, right. 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.319 Yes, yes, and like figuring out how to get there 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:11.440 because you can't go there every. 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.160 Day, you know. 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.399 That's that is how burnout happens, but like figuring out 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.239 for yourself how you get yourself there and then what 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.839 you need to do to recover it. When I talked 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.640 to kids, all so I do. I still do canceling 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.759 clanks for for swimmers all the time. And when I 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.360 talked to I was like, it's the turbo button. 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:26.920 It really is. 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:28.839 It's like and and like I don't even know if 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.040 that's still a thing on like PIFA, Like I'm talking 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.400 about NBA JAM like two thousand and two. At this point, 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:37.680 you got to figure out when you can press the 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.480 turbo button, and then you got to figure out what 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:40.520 fills your turbo. 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.440 Button back up again, you know. And and I think. 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.239 That was you know, that that was a we were 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.919 we were in full on turbo mode there. 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.880 But yeah, yeah, but I feel like the turbo button 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.280 was being pushed by somebody else and it was all 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:54.520 on all the time. 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.480 Yeah, yeah, there was something like it was like those 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.160 the time that we were spent just like you were 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.839 learning so much about yourself and how to get there 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.279 and how to experience it and. 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:10.720 How to harness the power of it. But like then yeah, 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:17.560 when it's over, I'm like I'm good I'm good. 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.280 No more turbo button needed for I'm good. 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.319 I don't need a turbo button, no more, No more 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:27.439 turbo button for me. Yeah, And I feel like that's 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.640 just how you get as you get older, too. And 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.160 so since I'm fifty one, I don't know I think 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.920 Stephen is the oldest. Denise might. I think she's around 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.439 my same age, but and I don't know how old 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.920 Mary it is. Anyway, my point was maybe I'm the oldest. No, 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.719 I don't think I'm the oldest, but I feel like 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.560 you have that kind of perspective, like I've lived my life, 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.600 you know, I'm good, I'm setting my ways, like I 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.319 know what I like, I know what I don't like, 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.200 and running is something I don't like, and I'm doing 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:54.839 a lot of it. 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:59.360 And I was going to ask too, like especially for you, Nathan, 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.960 on this will because I think this might be and 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.440 I hope this doesn't come off sexist, but it might 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.120 be a guy thing. But like I always think like 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.880 the Navy Seal team stuff as like the ultimate badassery 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.480 out there, you know what I mean. So it's like 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.640 in my mind, I mean, I watch every one of 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.040 those shows, right, I watch you know, Jack Ryan, and 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.879 I watch you know, every everything that comes out. 0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:22.799 Any movie that's got anything to do with it, I'm 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:23.040 on it. 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.880 And so when I like get curious about this stuff 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.359 is because part of me thinks, like I always watch 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:29.799 the show. My wife laughs at me all the time, 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:31.959 she go, Okay, so now you think you're a spy. 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.279 I'm like, yes, I think I could be a fantastic spy. 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.719 And so I'm gonna watch this show and I'm gonna 0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.840 be like, oh my god, I could I want to 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.200 do this, like I want to see if I can 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.200 do Was there any of that going into it where 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.680 you were just so fired up to see, you know, 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.560 especially having been an Olympic decorated Olympian thing like I 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.360 got this, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna print that I 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:51.839 can do this. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.319 All day every day. Man, Yes, all of it, all 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.319 of it. Yes, of course, of course, no doubt. 0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.600 And that was like just waiting for the next challenge 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.440 and like experiencing it and going through it and like 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.719 oh man, like it's just like it's kind of like 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.719 a little puzzle, like oh I mess up on this. 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.279 But next time I'm going to do this, I'm gonna 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.319 be better. Okay, next, next up, I'm a little bit better. 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:14.960 I'm a little bit better. I'm a little bit like the. 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.879 Same little thing in my head that just like made 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.960 me tick for swimming and doing it so long. It 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.040 was the same thing that kept me going in this too. 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.799 It was just like I do I want to figure 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.400 out how to get better, get better, get. 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.719 Better, like learn from learn from others around me. 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:32.759 I think that was like, you know, for me in 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.520 like two thousand and eight, my experience at the Olympics 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:36.200 was so interesting. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:36.680 I was young. 0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.319 I think I was the youngest male on the team. 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.440 I was nineteen years old. I swam a pre LNS 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.640 relay for the for one of the events, so I 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.759 wasn't I'm not going to say it wasn't important. But 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.399 without me there, the metal count wouldn't have changed at all. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.040 But like, I got to see so many people do 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.600 extraordinary things and do it in so many different ways, 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.040 and I actually like think that I had a lot 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.440 of that same kind of those same kind of feelings 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.720 here where we just came from so many different aspects 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.480 of life, but every single person there was so extraordinary and. 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.600 Like I think, like I don't know just what would 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:18.520 you say, Like was the. 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.480 Like when you're like, what what do these people have 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:22.560 in common? 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.840 Like what is it? And I think I have an answer, 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.440 but I kind of want to hear yours first. 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:32.319 That's really interesting. I feel like I always felt like 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.279 going through the interview process that the reason that they 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.759 chose me, because clearly they're not choosing me to be 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:43.359 that badass Navy seals person, but I feel like they 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.239 were picking me at least. And I think this goes 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.399 for everybody, that people out there can relate to each 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.600 one of us in different ways. So for me, I'm 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.279 the like, you know, the mom of teenagers about to leave, 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.120 figuring out what I want to do with my life 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:05.320 when they're gone, and you know, everyone has their story, 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.479 so I feel like it's we're all relatable in some way, 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.360 shape or form, and we're just relatable in different ways. 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:14.279 I like that. 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.880 I think that's that's I think that's definitely true. And 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.239 I think for me, I was I really am so 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:27.960 taken maybe not taken back, but like I'm just inspired 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.439 by everybody's agency in their life with everybody there, I think, 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.040 and it's like I think it really is for me, 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.359 and like, you know, there's I forgot who who wrote 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.239 the book, but is his thesis and his parentise was like, 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:41.480 it's luck. 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:42.560 It's it's luck. 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:48.319 You know, successful people is lucky. It's like, look, there 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.520 certainly plays a. 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.720 Part in this. You know, I wouldn't have, you know, Olympic. 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.960 Gold medals in my closet if I didn't hit some 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.000 you know, genetic like luckiness in my in my life. 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.160 But there was an aspect of like taking advantage of 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.800 that luck. And I think each and every one of 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.480 us were able to do that in our lives. And 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:10.840 I thought that's seeing the different like the different ways 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.080 that it happened was just so so cool and being 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:14.680 able to like. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:19.239 Be around it, like, you know, I wish I was 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:20.600 just told spend more time together. 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:25.680 I totally agree. I have been pushing for them, like 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.839 I'll talk to publicity. So I'm leaving today to go 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.719 to LA to do a like a little bit of 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.960 press also, and and I'm like, I just want to 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.839 get people together, Like I keep asking if we can 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.400 get people together, could we do like a a reunion 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.719 for the for the finale, And maybe if they don't 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.880 put it together, maybe we should just do it on 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.120 our own, Like wherever we do it, maybe we should 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:50.520 just do it on our own, because like on our 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:54.120 text thread, you know, Christy was like, I'm having a viewing, 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.680 you know, screening, and I'm having one too, actually here 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:01.240 on Wednesday. Mine's a little bigger than like just close friends. 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.319 It'll probably be like one hundred people or something. And 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:08.440 I think the Fox affiliate is coming from Denver. So 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.120 if this was Ryan on the show, my husband, it 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.359 would be totally different. But like you said, we're all 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.239 different and I just want to celebrate it. 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.360 Right Ryan would be watching it with the kids. 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.880 Yeah, totally, he would just be watching. Sorry, we have 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.360 to wrap, but I feel like, you know, I would 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.480 love to get together as well. I learned so much 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:32.720 from people. I was so inspired. I I really feel 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.000 like I bonded with with everyone in different ways. But 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.120 I am just I know, I know that you share 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.399 the sentiment. Just so grateful to have been part of it. 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.719 Oh my gosh, like truly truly. 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.799 It's again it sounds the cheesy line in your life, 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.960 but like just forever grateful and and just like what, 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:52.279 I don't know. 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:56.959 What I do to deserve this, you know, right? A lot? 0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.520 Well, I can say what you did. You were a 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.600 freaking celebrated Olympic athlete and you're a rock star and 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.879 a really kind human being. So thank you for being 0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:09.800 one of my angels. Thank you for coming on the 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.240 Almost Famous OG podcast and chatting with us about Special 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:15.840 Forces World's toughest test. Watch it on Wednesday. 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:16.560 Yeah. 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.960 Thanks, Nathan, with such a pleasure meeting you man. Looking 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:19.919 forward to watching the show. 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.160 A pleasure was mine. Thanks for having me. Guys. 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.640 Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.920 iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.