1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Missing a Rock War veteran, Chase Masner of Turkey County, 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: disappeared on Wednesday. His wife told us she dropped him 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: off at a quick trip in Cobb County, where he works. 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Masner was honorably discharged in two thousand eleven. His family 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: says he was diagnosed as bipolar and treated for post 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder. This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Time has not healed the pain of the family and 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: friends of Chase Masner, young Iraqi War veteran who disappeared 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: without a trace. Despite some intense searching, few clues have 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: been found. We have a missing veteran, We have a friend, 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: a son, a father, and our main goal has always 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: been to bring him home, and that emotion will never 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: end until he's brought back home. I don't know if you, 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: like me, have a child, in my case, his son 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: and a daughter that you love more than anything in 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: the world. Do you have a brother, a sister, a son, 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: a daughter, a grandchild that is the world to you. 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine, but right now I am 19 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: imagining what it would be like if one of my children, 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: my son, just disappeared and nobody can tell me where 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: he was, or what happened to him, or the circumstances 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: surrounding his disappearance, or where I might find him, or 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: where I should even start looking, because that is the 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: position that a wonderful lady is in right now, and 25 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: we want to help her, and I believe you want 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: to help her too. Thank you for being with us. 27 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: This is Nancy Grace and crime stories, and with me 28 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: now is a very special gift. Best It is the 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: mother of Chase Masner, Stephanie Cadina, Stephanie, thank you for 30 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: being with us. Thank you. We all know that your son, 31 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty six year old then twenty six year old Chase, 32 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: a proud veteran of the Iraqi War, married with two 33 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: children girls, I believe just vanishes. I can't help but believe, 34 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Miss Cadina, that we're missing part of this story because 35 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the story doesn't make sense to me. And I have found, 36 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: over years and years of prosecuting felonies in court and 37 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: covering cases, that when the story doesn't make sense, you're 38 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: missing a piece of the puzzle. You can't put the 39 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: puzzle together because you're missing important pieces of it. Let's 40 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: start at the beginning. Can you tell us as best 41 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: you can what happened did day Chase went missing? Chase 42 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: had come to my home to stay. He had stayed 43 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: with me for three days, UM, and on Wednesday, March, 44 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: his wife Amanda had picked him up, UM, with the 45 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: attentions of going home and spending a few days at 46 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: home on his days off work. He had to the 47 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: next two days off work. Why was he staying at 48 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: your home? Um? Amanda had called me and told me 49 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: they were having a little bit of difficulty and they 50 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: needed some space and asked, UM if it would be 51 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: okay if Chase came and stayed here with with me 52 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and my husband where he grew up. And absolutely, but 53 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean I was um thrilled to have him here. 54 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: Of course you were. I was unaware that there was 55 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: any problems or tension until that that moment. How long 56 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: had he been home from Iraq at that point, I'm 57 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: thinking I am not very good with dates at all, 58 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: but at least a year and a half, probably closer 59 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: to two years. Yeah, I imagine that trouble started brewing 60 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: as soon as he tried to reassimilate into civilian life 61 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: after being in Iraq. Both my son, both my son 62 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: and Amanda are extremely private and proud people. Um. And 63 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: what if you know if they were having difficulties. Um, 64 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: definitely they kept them to the to themselves. UM. As 65 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a mom and a mother in law, I was not aware, um, 66 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: of any any in depth difficulties that that that we're having. 67 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: How old were the girls at that time? Three and 68 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: six months? Six seven months? Okay, So he Chase had 69 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: been at your place for two or three days and 70 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Amanda comes to bring him home so they can reconcile 71 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and get back on track. Yes, then what happened? There 72 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: was um a lot of tension. There was argument argument 73 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: between the two of them, um in front of you. Yes, 74 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: and here here when she was picking Chase up. Um, 75 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Well what were they arguing about? I'm really I'm really 76 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: not sure. There was just a lot of a lot 77 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: of tension. Um. I don't I don't know the content 78 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: of their their conversation. I actually went out and sat 79 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: in the car with the girls. Well, Amanda and Chase 80 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: got his stuff together. They were they would just were 81 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: very very um frustrated. I think I sensed frustration in 82 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: both of them. And um, once he had his stuff 83 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: ready to go, did they have money problems? Stephanie, because 84 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: I'm thinking he comes home from Iraq, he has to 85 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: find a job. He looks, and he looks, and he looks, 86 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and finally gets a job as a cashier at a 87 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Quick Trip. Now, on that salary alone, it's gonna be 88 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: hard to support two little girls, especially a knee born, 89 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: with all it takes to take care of a child. 90 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: So that the money tension, which you know what that 91 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: is nothing to be ashamed of. Most of America is 92 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: one paycheck away from eviction. Okay, I mean, and I've 93 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: been there many times, um, where you're you're counting on 94 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: your next paycheck to get you through till the end 95 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: of the month to pay your rent, in your car 96 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: payment and everything else. And I've been there, I know it. 97 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: So he's trying to support them. He's not a lay 98 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: about when he can't get the jobs he really wants. 99 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't sit there in wine and sulk and sit 100 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: on the sofa watching TV. He gets out and gets 101 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: a job where he can get a job at Quick Trip, 102 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: working all kinds of hours to try to support his family. Okay, 103 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: so they leave, they leave, right, Yes, they leave. Then 104 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: what happens and um, that's that's where everything goes completely 105 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: um blank for me. UM. I didn't speak with either 106 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: one of them that evening and the following day, March 107 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: I received a message from Amanda letting me know that 108 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta tell you something. I gotta tell 109 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: you something, Stephanie. I so proud of you not butting in. 110 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: You know they're having a problem. You know that he 111 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to get it back together, get the car 112 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, and the last thing 113 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: they probably need is the mother in law calling to say, hey, 114 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: is everything okay. I don't know if I would have 115 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: that restraint, you know, I don't know, I'd be so 116 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: up in it. But you managed to do the right 117 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: thing and just leave them alone to work it out. 118 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: So you didn't hear from them that night. What happened next? 119 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I received a message from I believe it was a 120 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: text message from Amanda the following day, later in the afternoon, 121 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: letting me know that Chase did not go home with her. UM. 122 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: At that moment is when my alarms went off and 123 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I begin to panic because why you thought, Well, if 124 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: he didn't go with her, he would have come back here, 125 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: So where is it? That was my assumption. That was 126 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: That was my assumption. So I tried to make a 127 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: few phone calls, text messages. I gotta tell you something, 128 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: you're making my stomach. My stomach is just hurting right now, 129 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: imagining you've gone overnight. You have no idea where he is. Okay, 130 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: what happened after after that message and after I was 131 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: aware of the fact that he did not go home 132 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: with Amanda, Then I began to panic and wonder, well, 133 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: where did he go? Um? Where is he now? He? Um? 134 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: If I ever called him or text him, I always 135 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: always got a response, And throughout Thursday afternoon and evening, UM, 136 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I did not get a response at all to any 137 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: of my voicemails. Okay, hold on right there, right there. 138 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:58,239 Speaker 1: That's very very important because I've had to establish timelines 139 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: in a criminal case, starting with when a dog marked 140 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: or some other incident that may mean nothing to other people, 141 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: but it means something in this particular case. Now, when 142 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: exactly as you recall, did you first start trying to 143 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: reach him. It was late in the afternoon on Thursday, 144 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: probably after four Okay, So so let's start the timeline there. 145 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: And I'm starting it there because while a lot of 146 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: people may not immediately return a text or call. I 147 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: have to tell you the minute I see my mom's 148 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: number pop up or my husband's number pop up, I 149 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: pick it up immediately because it could be anything. Uh 150 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: so you're saying that was his practice. So if he 151 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: was not picking up or returning a text at four o'clock, 152 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: that was out of character. So let's start the timeline 153 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: right there. He is missing in my opinion. Unless I 154 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: hear differently at four a clot on Thursday, he's gone. Okay, 155 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: then what happens? I continue throughout the evening and night 156 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: to try to reach him, and by Friday morning, um M, 157 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I said to my husband, what what do I do? 158 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to be crazy and overreact. And 159 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: my husband is a very stable, um the middle of 160 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: the line kind of person. He keeps me grounded, and 161 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: he said, we need to report that he's missing. So 162 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: I did. I called sheriff and making him to our house. 163 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: And that was Friday, Um, a little before it was 164 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: mid morning. I think, m h, you know, just hearing 165 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: your voice, it just I just went completely lost in 166 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: thought because if I talked about or start reliving my 167 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: fiances murder, it's always like it just happened yesterday. It's 168 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: it never that never changes. So we are now the 169 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: last time you've seen him was Wednesday night? Correct? Correct? 170 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: So it's now Thursday at four o'clock. You increase the 171 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: cause and the texts and when do you report it missing? 172 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Friday mid morning when I when I didn't hear anything 173 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: back throughout the evening and night on Thursday night, I 174 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: was absolutely positive um that he was not able to 175 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: reach me. I'm not able to respond. Why can I 176 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: just ask a question that's neither here nor there? But 177 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: why didn't he go home with with his wife? Why 178 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: did she not want him to come home? Or is 179 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: that what happened? Um? From what I understand, they got 180 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: into more heated argument as as they left, and and 181 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: just said to hey with it. Chase requested UM that 182 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Amanda drop him off, and I was told that she 183 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: dropped him off at Quick Trip, and then I was 184 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: told that she dropped him off at Brad's house. So 185 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: it's very I have no facts from the moment that 186 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: they left my driveway. I have nothing. Okay, I don't 187 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: understand this. You can't get her to tell you where 188 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: she dropped him. She said both both places, and she 189 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: came in in the house in the middle of the 190 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: sheriff being here, and she was flustered, and I was clustered, 191 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: and UM, I'm I'm still unclear where or she dropped 192 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: him off at Okay, see that right there spells trouble 193 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: to me. What did she tell the police? Did she 194 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: tell them she dropped a quick trip or at Brad's 195 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the friend, I'm not quite certain. Well since that time 196 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: if he tried to pin her down. I love Amanda, 197 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: my daughter in law, very much, my granddaughters, and we 198 00:14:52,600 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: are we deal we're dealing with our loss very differently. Um. 199 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: She's she's moved away, protecting her her daughter's keeping, being 200 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: the best mother that she can be, and I praise 201 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: her for that. And me as a mother, UM is 202 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: absolutely my responsibility and my mission. And I will breathe 203 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: my last breath finding out what happened to my son. 204 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: When you say Amanda has moved away, are you saying 205 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: emotionally or does she physically move? Um? Not. I wouldn't 206 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: say emotionally. She physically has moved. UM. I do have 207 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: contact with her. I went in and spent Thanksgiving with um, 208 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: with her and the girls. My husband and I we 209 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: had a wonderful time. Um we we really we don't 210 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of conversation about this, about this because 211 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: we have chosen to handle it drastically different. Well, you 212 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: know that's not that uncommon, Stephanie, because when I still 213 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: speak to Keith, my fiance's family, we don't relive his 214 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: murder and what happened that day, and what happened at 215 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the trial, and and that his killer is now out 216 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,119 Speaker 1: on parole. We don't talk about that. It's so painful 217 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it would achieve. So people 218 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: may think that's odd. It's not odd, It's not odd 219 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: at all. But you know, this may be irrelevant, it 220 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: may be moot because the friend Brad says that Chase 221 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: came to his home that night, correct Wednesday night. After 222 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: he leaves your spot, your home, he comes there. Is 223 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: that right? Yes, So regardless of whether Amanda the wife 224 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: says I dropped in a quick trip or I dropped 225 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: him at Brad's. For all I know, both things could 226 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: be true. It could be that she dropped in a 227 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: quick trip and he went to Brad's. You know it, 228 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: It's just that's Frankly, if he says that Chase came there. 229 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: It's irrelevant of what Amanda says. Okay, so we can 230 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: now trace him Wednesday night to Brad's. Now, do you 231 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: believe that he was at Brad's. Okay, we've got him 232 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: at Brad's on Wednesday night. What happens at Brad's? Brad, 233 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: he stays overnight and the next morning, I think Brad. 234 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: The next day Brad sees him go to quick trip 235 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: to work. Right, that's not my understanding. Chase did not 236 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: work the next day. Okay. My understanding is that Brad 237 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: left his house with Chase's cell phone, which I don't 238 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: quite understand, but left his house to go deliver a 239 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: computer do some sort of work, and when he returned, 240 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Chase was gone. Let me understand something. What kind of 241 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: job did Brad have that he had to leave? Um, 242 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: my understanding he was some sort of self employed computer technician. 243 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he worked on computers, but he didn't work for 244 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: our company. He worked for himself. And we know for 245 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: a fact that he did make that delivery. I'm sure 246 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: police have investigated that. I'm not certain that that has 247 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: been confirmed. Now, what was the explanation given to you 248 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: as to why the friend Brad took Chase says cell 249 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: phone with him. There has been no explanation given to me. 250 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I want to thank our sponsor today who is helping 251 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: us make the story of Chase Masner re ignite in 252 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: the hopes of finding him and bringing him home, or 253 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: bringing closure to his mother, bringing answers to his two 254 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: little girls that do not have their father. That sponsor 255 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: is Simply Safe and award winning seven three home protection 256 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: named best in the industry. Simply safe dot com slash 257 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: nancy allows you teen percent off on a home security system. 258 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: So many people think they cannot afford it. This is 259 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: a month plus the discount. Your safety matters to me. 260 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: My children's safety matters to me, and that is why 261 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm proud to have Simply Safe as our sponsor with 262 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: us is investigative reporter Alan Duke. Alan. It was my 263 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: understanding that the friend Brad says, look, I don't want 264 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: you to leave. I don't want you to leave here, 265 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: that he took the cell phone and said, I'm taking 266 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: your cell phone, so you have to stay, so you'll 267 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: be here when I get back. That's my understanding, yes, 268 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: that he wanted to ensure that his friend was still 269 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: there when he got back from what he had to do. Okay, 270 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: he couldn't have been gone over two or three hours. 271 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: He gets back and in that amount of time, Chase 272 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: is gone. Now another fact that may seem insignificant, but 273 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: I disagree. Isn't it true, Alan that at the time 274 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: the friend Brad was having roofing work done on his home. 275 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: And the reason I find that significant is none of 276 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the roofers see Chase leave. Yes, there was a roofer 277 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: who was working on a contract on the roof at 278 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: the house in the middle of the day who says 279 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: he did not see Ace leave. And in fact, this 280 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: roofer posted on social media a few days later when 281 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: this thing, this this case started to hit the media, 282 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: posted on it. You know, this was the guy. He 283 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: was at the house I was working on that day 284 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: and I didn't see him. He actually posted that. I 285 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: think it was on Facebook. Well, let me ask, let 286 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: me go a little bit further. Did the roofer ever 287 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: see Chase there? I don't believe he did. And also 288 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: what I would like to ask Ms Kadina is this 289 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: was there any indication that Brad tried to wake up 290 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: your son that morning before he went off to work 291 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: or what was was Chase asleep? From what I've understood, 292 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: I've not spoken with Brad directly myself. From what I've 293 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: understood from the detectives, he did try to wake Chase, 294 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: and at some point I believe Brad communicated with Amanda 295 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: saying Chase is not waking up, does he have to 296 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: work today? Which I find odd because Brad knows Chase's 297 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: schedule and Chase works third shift, so and he also 298 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: knew that he had the next two days off work. 299 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Third shift would be what five to twelve? Third shift 300 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: is like eleven to seven, eleven PM to seven a m. Why, Um, 301 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: is it may? I asked that you have not talked 302 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: to Brad about what happened in the beginning. Well, first 303 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: of all, I don't know Brad. This This is not 304 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a friend of Chases that he grew up with. It 305 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: was at our house all the time. Um, I had 306 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: never heard Brad's name before, and I've I've never met him. 307 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: You know, if he was at one of his friend's 308 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: house that basically grew up in in our house, I 309 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: would have been pounding on the door. Of course, I 310 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: didn't know where Brad lived. I didn't know his last name. 311 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know anything about him at all, 312 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and and frankly I still don't. My understanding is that um, 313 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: he did try to wake him up. He told him 314 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: that he had to deliver a computer and that he 315 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: would be back later and they would have a cookout. 316 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: And and this is information um from Detective Twigs. So 317 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: he was going to come back to the home that 318 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: night and have a cookout with Chase that afternoon. Yes, okay, 319 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: So what do we know from that point? What? What 320 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: do you know of the police theory? What is their theory, Stephanie, 321 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated that I don't know what their theory is. 322 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: I have a very good working relationship with Detective Twigs. 323 00:23:52,960 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: We meet quite often. I follow up um weekly, bi 324 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: weekly with emails. I've had many many appointments with him 325 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: at my home, at my office, at his office. What 326 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I walk away with every single time is there hasn't 327 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: been a crime, so we can't h we can't. Basically, 328 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: their hands are tied. There's They breaks my heart to 329 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: say this, but there's nobody and they say it's not 330 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: a crime to walk away and without evidence of any 331 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: foul play, They're basically at a stand still in the investigation. 332 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: So being gone for this period of time would not 333 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: suggest to them that there was foul play. It streams 334 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: to me that there's foul play. Um, but I am 335 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: not getting my my point across or I don't understand 336 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: the legal system. I met with Detective Twigs just just 337 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: last week, um, and it's it's he's very patient with me, 338 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: but it is the same conversation pretty much every single 339 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: every single time. And Alan, I've been reviewing the facts 340 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: as we know them. And a few days after Chase 341 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: went missing, Stephanie asked police to search a dumpster in 342 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: front of Brad's home and they agreed to do so. 343 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: They then went to landfill where the dumpster had been empty. 344 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Place eventually visited. Excuse me, they searched the wrong dumpster, right, 345 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: they Yes, they they searched the wrong dumpster, and they 346 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: my request, my request was to please search the landfill 347 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: because they did not. They did not search the dumpster 348 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: that was there for the roofers and it was hauled 349 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: away and Major Bowl and Ball assured me that they 350 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: would do their very best to search the landfill and 351 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I was later contact did buy Detective twigs, that too 352 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: much time had passed and the landfill was not searched, 353 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: so they searched the wrong dumpster and then say it 354 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: costs too much to search the landfield. Is that what happened? 355 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: He didn't say that it costs too much. He said 356 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: that too much time has passed. In reports I've read, 357 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: it says the debris is buried, was buried so deep 358 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: in the landfill officer's sake, cost close to one million 359 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: dollars to search, and that with nothing suggesting a body 360 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: had ever been in the dumpster, police say they cannot 361 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: justify spending the money. Okay, do you know Alan whether 362 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: the friend Brad has ever taken a polygraph test? I'm 363 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: not aware of one. Maybe maybe Ms Kanana would know that, 364 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: but I am not aware of that. Passie Stephanie, I 365 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: don't have that knowledge either. I've asked, and um, the 366 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: answer is I can't answer that question. Well, that doesn't 367 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: make sense because typically police will say someone volunteers or 368 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: they were asked to take a polygraph, and they won't 369 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: reveal the results of the polygraph. But to flat out 370 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: not even tell you whether they've asked him to take 371 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: a polygraph, I find that very unusual. I mean, Alan, 372 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: isn't just me. I agree with you, especially Cobb County. 373 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: They're pretty aggressive, has been my experience. The detective is 374 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: lead Detective Chris Twigs at seven seven oh four nine 375 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: nine three nine three one, and I'd be very curious 376 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: to find out if they had asked the friend Brad 377 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to take a polygraph, or if they have taken a 378 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: polygraph and he's passed it so we can move on 379 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: from that point. And very often people are asked to 380 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: take a polygraph to rule themselves out. I always think 381 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: of Mark Class, my friend Mark Class, whose daughter Polly 382 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: was abducted and she was murdered. The first thing cops 383 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: did was come to his house and he said, look, 384 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: you know what, take my DNA, take my fingerprint, I'll 385 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: do a polygraph whatever you want, so you can get 386 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: off me and move on to find out who took Polly. 387 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: So very often people take a polygraph in order to 388 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: allow police to go on to the next phase. But 389 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: if Brad is to be believed, Chase just left for 390 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: no reason, with none of his stuff, without a cell phone, 391 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: nothing and has never been seen again. And nobody saw 392 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: him leave, neither the roofers nor the people in the neighborhood, 393 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: and he has never been spotted. Since that's where we're left. 394 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly where we're at now. According to Sergeant Dane 395 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Appears with Cobb County p D. They told us that 396 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: time online that this case is very much active. What 397 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: does that mean when you speak to them, you spoke 398 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: to them last week? What are they doing to help 399 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: find Chase? What active thing are they doing? I asked 400 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: that exact question to Detective Twigs because I met with 401 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: him after that quote from Dana Pierce, and I was 402 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: receiving phone calls asking what the new leads or what 403 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: they were working on. So I asked Detective Twigs that 404 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: exact question, and they, UM, it was it was nothing 405 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: new than I'd heard for the past year and a half, 406 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: two years, maybe UM trying to locate a a person 407 00:30:52,920 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: UM who could verify that Brad did in fact do 408 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: some type of computer work, and wanting to contact a 409 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: friend of Chase's via phone. I just had some questions, 410 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: UM for that individual. Nothing new, And I asked him 411 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: why why. David Pierce said that there was well, I 412 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what his exact words were. That that 413 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: that there were new leads in the in the case. 414 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Is that what was reported? Just that Pier states that 415 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the case is quote very much active and are working 416 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: behind the scenes with new information. But Pierce declined to 417 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: divolve those details. Okay if that, if that is a 418 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: factual statement, then they're declining to divulge the details to 419 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: me as well. Okay, that's interesting. Um, did Chase have 420 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: an a t M or credit cards or a gas 421 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: card that he used? He had a debit card, yest 422 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: has it been used at all since he disappeared? No? 423 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Was there money in the account for him to get 424 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: to My understanding is that his pay day was at 425 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: midnight on Wednesday, which which is the day he left here. 426 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: Was there a direct deposit? Did he did he have 427 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: to go pick up his check? Oh, he did not 428 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: have to pick up a check. It was direct deposited. Correct. 429 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: Is that money still in his account? I have no 430 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: knowledge of of his and Amanda's banking account. Well, what 431 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at is did he take that 432 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: money out of his account? From what I understand from 433 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: Detective Twigs, there was no activity on his debit card. 434 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I believe since Wednesday evening. I believe he bought something 435 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: very small purchase at Walgreen's, which is across the across 436 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the street from Quick Trip. That was a last transaction. 437 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: The reason I ask is if he had withdrawn his 438 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: money his paycheck, that would suggest to me that he 439 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: was just leaving. But if you get a paycheck and 440 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: it's sitting there in your account and you decide to 441 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: skip down, you take your money with you. But he didn't. Yeah, 442 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: if you were voluntarily missing, you you would you would 443 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: wait until that morning and it's posted and then you 444 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: go and hit up the A t M or the bank. 445 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Why would you walk away without without that money? And 446 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: if money was taken, there should be a photo of 447 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: the A t M withdrawal. So there's been no activity 448 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: on his debit card when he left it. He had 449 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: his driver's license with him and his wallet. He did 450 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: not carry a wallet. He had recently gotten a new 451 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: cell phone and a new cell phone case, and he 452 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: right actually Wednesday afternoon, he was showing me um that 453 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: he was getting organized, and he has his cell phone case, 454 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: his cell phone, his debit card, and driver's license in 455 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: the pockets of the case. And it was just very 456 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: simple and easy for him to keep track of those 457 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: three things. Everything was all in one Wait a minute, 458 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: So when the friend Brad kept his cell phone, did 459 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: he keep his driver's license a debit card too? I 460 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that question. Um, If he did, 461 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: I believe it's it's been given back to Amanda. My 462 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: my recollect recollection is UM, Amanda had his driver's license, 463 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: So that would mean that he left out a driver's 464 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: license or a debit card. Why would you do that? 465 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe that he would. Once again, I want 466 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: to thank our sponsor for making today's podcast on Chase 467 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: Masner possible. That sponsor, Simply Safe. 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I just want the truth. 477 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm prepared whatever the truth is. M I want 478 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: to find the answers. I want to find out what 479 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: happened to Chase, and I wanted I want to know 480 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: where he is. Stephanie, do you think he's alive? I 481 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: do not why. I know my son and I know 482 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: his heart, and there's it's just not possible for him 483 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: to be off living below the grid. As I've heard 484 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: different comments. Yes, he couldn't. He he could not pull 485 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: that off. He's got a very very sensitive heart. He 486 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: loves his wife, he loves his daughters. I know he 487 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: loves me. He just would not do that. I agree 488 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: with you. I don't think you would do that either. 489 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: For anyone listening that has any information on the disappearance 490 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: of Chase Master, please help us. The tipline is seven 491 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: seven zero four one, or you can go on crime 492 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: online dot com and remain anonymous and send an email 493 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: or call our toll free number. Stephanie, thank you for 494 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: being with us. The search for Chase goes on. Thank 495 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: you for helping me. Nancy Grace with Crime Stories, signing 496 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: off