1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a good wardrobe change. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here and the Chris Westling podcast studio 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: to talk about the NFC North and preview their off 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: season here in the regular season with Patrick Claybox. 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: Correct. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, good to be back two times in one week. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: That's what we want. We're back. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: You know, the Super Bowl was different for me because 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 4: it was a whole season being in proximity to you guys. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: But now we're back. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: It is great to have you here and to talk 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: about the show. And yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: you can see I'm wearing a hat and that makes 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: it Friday's Show. Great teams in the NFC North Lions, Vikings, obviously, 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Packers, and it's a division that 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: to me, is set up for disappointment because you have 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: records this good from three teams in one year, and 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: you have a Bears team who has kind of underachieved 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: year after year after year, and everything looks so good, 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: like the expectations for all four of these teams are 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: going to be sky high. So the next month and yes, 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: that's what I've been calling the regular season is this 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: build up into into free agency is absolutely vital. So 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: let's put ten minutes on the clock here, and why 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: don't you why don't you get us going with the 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers? 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Oh, we'll go with the Green Bay Packers. Okay, this 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: has been a question that I've been waiting to ask 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: you for a while. Greg, when we initially conceptualized this exercise, 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: and I saw you and Jordan executed flawlessly. The Packers 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: started their season and ended their season with a loss 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: to the eventual Super Bowl champion. They navigated what we 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: both believe is the best division in football and had 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: lost to the Lions as well as the Vikings in 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: their historic seasons. Do the Green Bay Packers need to 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: package picks ooh, and trade for Miles Garrett in order 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: to the gap is not very big? I know that 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: they didn't have the success. 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: Is Miles Garrett that piece that they go get like 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: they went and got Julius Peppers in that stage of 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: his career, like they went and got Reggie White in 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: that stage of his career? Is it Miles Garrett in 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, solving the problems with. 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers and getting them back to the 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're a perfect team to do so, 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: because I think they can make it happen without ruining 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: their president or future prospects. Like you build up all 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: this young capital in terms of good young players, you know, 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: to be able to survive maybe trading a couple picks. 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: You have plenty of cap space. Forty two million dollars 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: in cap space. They have eight picks this year. They 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: basically have all their picks. So both them and the 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Lions to me, are right near the top of the 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: list of teams that make the most sense for Miles 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: care I think the Lions make even maybe a little 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: more sense, But the Packers it would work too. And 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: that that was what I was thinking too, Like, what 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: does Goody get impatient? Because they're so patient in Green Bay? 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: This is kind of year three of the post Aaron 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers era, and year three is kind of when you 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: push some of these players are maturing. I don't know 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: if that would be impatience or just trying to take 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: advantage of a situation. 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think because you have been patient, right, 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: You've been not just fiscally responsible, but you have The 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: Packers have a very structured set of parameters for the 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: players that they draft. You know, you're not going to 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: find a whole lot of small cornerbacks, right, You're not 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: going to find small defensive linemen. They they have their 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: metrics that they need to hit and they've done that 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: and they've built a very, very solid roster. But there 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: needs to be times where you take swings right where 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: you get because there's all that conversation about the offense 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: and who's the number one Matt Leffleuer doesn't want to 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: say who the number one receiver is. You know, all 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: these guys have their varied skill sets. You don't have 80 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: to lose any of that. But you you make a 81 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: pitch not just to the Cleveland Browns, but to the player. 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: You bring back those historical comparisons and you say you 83 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: can be it for us, And I just think it 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: makes too much sense not to. And you mentioned the 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. Do you want to play against him? Do 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: you want to play against him a couple more times? 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: Do you want to see the teams that were very 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: good that we're in the division that you couldn't compete with? 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: You know, when when everything came to a head at 90 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: the end of the season. Do you want to see 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: those guys get Miles Garrett. I just think it makes 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: it makes too much sense. And we saw it with 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs as well as with Xavier McKinney last year, 94 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: that this is not this is not our the Green 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: Bay Packers of old. They're willing to go out and 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: get very good players. Okay, so so do it? You 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: have the team make the move. 98 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do have as I mentioned, the cap space. 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: It makes sense because when I look at their needs 100 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: not huge. I think the roster is in better shape 101 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: than twenty five teams in the league. Just to throw 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: out a number like there's not screaming needs, but probably 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: number one is like an edge rusher Rashan Gary, little 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: disappointing last year. Still gonna be on the team, but 105 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: a little disappointing. Don't really have a second edge guy 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: that you feel good about. Lucas van Ness has not 107 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: really hit DeVante Wyatt's gotten better, but I wouldn't say. 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: It's been a hit. 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: He's an interior rusher, and in general, their pass rush 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: was absolutely lacking last year. So I think that's an 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: area that even if they don't go after Miles Garrett, 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, there's other guys available for trades, 113 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: Max Crosby or Trey Hendrickson that would be intriguing just 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: as intriguing, just about as well. Or are they a 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: team that invests a little bit upfront in free agency? 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Connected to that, I was looking at ways of like 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: if they want to open up a little more space, 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: is Kenny Clark safe on this team? Been a really 119 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: good veteran for them for a while close the season okay, 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: I believe he made it to week ten without a 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: quarterback hit or a sac That's rough. That's tough for 122 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: like one of your highest paid players. So that's one 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: that could be a post June first they would save 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. Maybe they don't feel like they need 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: to do that though, because they have so much cap space. 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: See how he. 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Looks in training camp, and it's more a player that 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: they really appreciate. And then also likely not on this 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: team next year is JayR Alexander, who is under contract, 130 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: but it would be surprising if they brought him back. 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be more of a cut 132 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: than a trade. So those are two guys really associated 133 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: with the Packers for. 134 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: A long time. 135 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: JayR Alexander and Kenny Clark with the futures that are 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: a little up in the air for a defense that 137 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: needs some work. Frankly, like they were okay, but they 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: need some work. 139 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: And that would be my question is specifically with JayR, 140 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: why give yourself more work? 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: There? They have they have this there, It's. 142 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Just it seemed bad personally. There's something going on there. 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I always reference it, but we got we got 144 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: statues outside of Staples right of. 145 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: Guys who didn't have things going on personally. 146 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: I think there were notable personal issues allegedly between Jalen 147 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: Hurts and A J. Brown over the course of the season. 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: Winning solves all those things, it makes it makes everything work. 149 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: And so if Shaquille O'Neal is one of the people 150 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: you are, you were talking to, Yeah, Shaq and Kobe 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: an important guy. 152 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't necessarily have the best relationship during all times 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: of their run, but but when it worked out, it 154 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: worked out to it to a very good extent. And 155 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: I just think if you're if you're letting JayR Alexander 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: go elsewhere, then now you've given yourself an actual problem 157 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: on a roster that that doesn't have that many like problem. 158 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Okay, my counterpoint is he never plays, that's my counterpoint. 159 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big deal. 160 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: He's getting older and he's been hurt, and there's been 161 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: some back and forth, and you hate when this happens 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: between a team and a player, of like, could he 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: be pushing to play more? 164 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Could he not? 165 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: It's just been sort of a little bit of a 166 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: drama between them for a while, and I think they've 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: actually kept him longer than most teams would have. But 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he is on the team. So 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: that those are a couple holes, very few free agents, 170 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: so that's good for them. They do have one guy, 171 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Josh Myers, who, depending on who you ask, was either 172 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: the weak link there at center for a while or 173 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: a really improving player. I look at a guy who 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: has played a ton of football and will get a 175 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: good contract because anyone that can start as many games 176 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: as him and is young and the Packers say improved 177 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: quite a bit all last season is going to do 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: well somewhere. So I don't know if it'll be there 179 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: or not, but they I really trust them to figure 180 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: out their offensive line. The thing that strikes me looking 181 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: at their roster Patrick, tell me where you would want 182 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: to improve It is their offense, Like everyone else is 183 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: returning and like there aren't there aren't holes. 184 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: You could add. 185 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Another receiver, you could bring back to Vante Adams. Maybe 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: I don't think that's that crazy. You could add one 187 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: more receiver, but you kind of don't have to, and 188 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: you could add at almost any level. Yeah, you could 189 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: add a guy that in theory is a one, but 190 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you could just add another rotation piece. Christian Watson will 191 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: be coming off of a serious injury. Dantavian Wicks didn't 192 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: really work out last year. Maybe he'll improve in his 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: third year. So you kind of have Dobbs In, Jane 194 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Reid and Tucker Craft as the three receivers that you 195 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: are kind of building this offense around, and Craft was 196 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: really good as a second year. 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: It's tight end, and they also had some of the 198 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: most cohesive in terms of games started among the offensive 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: line in the entire league. They were able to keep 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: those guys healthy and together as a group of five 201 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: for the majority of the season. You know, we'll see 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: what the market is for AJ Dillon. You could find 203 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: his way back. I don't know that that necessarily matters 204 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: that much. I wouldn't change a thing about the off 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: You get some guys healthy, I think, another year together 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: playing in the system, another year knowing what Josh brings 207 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: to this team. Really, this is just the improvements needed. 208 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: If they have an offseason like they did a year ago, 209 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: they are going to be a super Bowl contender. Because 210 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: just look at who was brought in a year ago. 211 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Great pick, Edrin Cooper got some defensive Rookie of the 212 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: Year votes. Evan Williams was a really good rookie player 213 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: for them. Javon Bullard played a lot for them and 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't embarrass himself. He was a rookie nickelback. So they 215 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: added some young talent on that side of the ball. 216 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, added Josh Jacobs and one 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: of the best backup quarterbacks in football. I think it's 218 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: safe to say now, Malik Willis so I mean, I'm serious, No, 219 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: that's true. It's obviously true. So they had a great offseason. 220 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: Goody's done great overall, and if they can just keep 221 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: adding more pieces, a little more juice on the defensive 222 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: side I think was missing. All right, let's go to 223 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: the Lions. Since we talked about them as a potential 224 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett team. They are missing their third round pick, 225 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: but they do have a compensatory pick late in the 226 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: third coming back, so they basically are good on picks. 227 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: They have forty four million dollars in cap space, right 228 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: about the same as the Packers, That is tenth in 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: the league. They do have a number of good free agents. 230 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Levi on Wizourique, who improved quite a bit as a 231 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: fourth year player, well timed, stayed healthy. 232 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: I know they like him. 233 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler, who played well for them as a free 234 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: agent pickup at guard, and then Carlton Davis, who when 235 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: he played was very valuable for them. So that's three 236 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: top fifty free agents for them. 237 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 238 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: My question, my question for them is like, with these 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: new two coordinators, where are they really prioritizing to improve 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: this team? Because it's hard. It's hard to like see 241 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: huge areas that they need to improve, but like what 242 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: types of players are do they go after? 243 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: They're different? 244 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: Now with these two coordinators, do you see an area 245 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: that is the biggest problem for them? 246 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's depth on the defensive line and then 247 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 4: the secondary, specifically at corner. I think they had two 248 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: of the best safeties in the league in Kirby and 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: Brian Branch. Spectacular on the middle of the field as 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: the season went on, But just when the Carlton Davis injury, 251 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: the Terry on Arnold injury late, you get Alexanzeloni back. 252 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: But injuries were more of the story for the Lions. 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: And again this is this is the NFL, Like, You're 254 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: going to have players injured every single year, regardless of age, 255 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: how they came in, what kind of shape they're in. 256 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: It's going to be a consistent thing regardless. 257 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 4: But in terms of the injuries affecting the outcomes, it's 258 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: tough for me to say that anybody had their outcomes 259 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: affected by the injuries more than Detroit Lions, especially on 260 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 4: the defensive side of the. 261 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: Ball, right. 262 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been great to see a 263 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: full strength Lions team, hypothetically or closer to it, play 264 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: that Eagles team. I'm not gonna say they're just gonna 265 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: beat him, but they certainly were right there at the 266 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: top for me in terms of favorites to win the 267 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, along with the Chiefs and the Bills and 268 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and so just getting healthier is going to 269 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: be massive for them. Marcus Davenport, by the way, was 270 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be on this team. He is a free agent. 271 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Other than that, and the guys I mentioned, Derek Barnes 272 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: was a guy who basically didn't play at all for 273 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: them last year. That could be an easy win if 274 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: you can get him back for cheap. They do have 275 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Zadarias Smith under contract again for next year, so that's good. 276 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. 277 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I think it's pass rush that it just they just 278 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: didn't have enough. And I know Alie McNeil got hurt. 279 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: A lot of it was injuries, and you get Aiden 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: Hutchinson back. But this is a team that I think 281 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: been similar to Philadelphia and that they want to be 282 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: really good on the lines. I think they need to 283 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: keep refreshing their pass rush and start refreshing their offensive line. 284 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Their offensive line actually is getting a little older, a 285 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: little creaky, weren't as good and the interior a year ago, 286 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: as I think their reputation would indicate. Then you look 287 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: at some of those numbers of the guys that you know, 288 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: when did they get drafted about Graham Glasgow drafted in sixteen, 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: rag Noow in eighteen, Decker in sixteen, Kevin Zeitler's thirty 290 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: five years old and a free agent, so that might 291 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: just be more of a draft focus, but they kind 292 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: of are due to start refreshing there. But these are 293 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: the types of things that great organizations are talking about 294 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: in the offseason, like let's improve our depth, let's get 295 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: younger at a position we're already good. They don't have 296 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: major screaming needs, especially on offense. They're kind of bringing 297 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: everyone back, which is awesome for the Lions and for 298 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: John Morton, their new offensive coordinator. 299 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: Especially when you consider that these guys have years remaining, 300 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: like you got years before you have to think of 301 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: about an a'm On Ross Saint Brown or a Jared 302 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: Golf Right, it's just in terms of the talent there 303 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: where Pinae sewel Is you mentioned the age of everybody else. 304 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: Pene's got five more years before you. 305 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Got to keep paying them a long way. But they've 306 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: done a great job paying them early. And that also 307 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: means if they want to restructure some contracts, like they're 308 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to open up money. They sort 309 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: of have all the money and all the picks that 310 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: they really need to be as aggressive as they want. 311 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: And that's why to me, they actually make the most 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: sense because I just feel like they're at this point 313 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: not it's definitely not desperation, but just opportunity and where 314 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: they are, I think they're going to feel like they 315 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: need to add something big and new to the mix 316 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: to make this season feel fresh. And it's not going 317 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: to hurt them because they are a young enough team 318 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: overall that I think it can make it happen. 319 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: And it also because the mindset of this team, you know, 320 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 4: was playing their starters in a meaningless game against the 321 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: forty nine ers right where I wonder if if you 322 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: have let's say, if it's Max, if it's Miles, like whatever, 323 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: big name that they would be able to trade for. 324 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: Looking at the video of Aiden Hutchinson running this week, 325 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: it's like, well, maybe you give him more time to 326 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: not feel like he has to be out there. 327 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: Week one, week two, week three. 328 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: You could slowly work him back to the way that 329 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: you could have this team be at its peak at 330 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: the end of the season, which is you know what 331 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: we wanted last year is if we can have this 332 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: this core healthy and not so beat up where they 333 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: can play to the level that we see them through 334 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: the middle of the season. 335 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: Because they're so good. 336 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: Yes, And I think Carlton Davis is a sneaky, huge 337 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: free agent. I think they kind of either need him 338 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: back or they need to invest at the position highly 339 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: in someone else. DJ Reid is an interesting name that's 340 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: out there at cornerback, a debo Polsit, a debo like 341 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: could fit kind of what they do in terms of 342 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: a physical style. Denzel Ward, if we're looking at Browns, 343 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: might be available potentially in a trade. He's trying to 344 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: get packaged. Let's just bring them both to Detroit. That 345 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: would be pretty exciting. But I think that he of 346 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: all their free agents, like own Wzourique, I think they'd 347 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: love to keep. They developed him, but if he goes 348 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: somewhere else, they'll they'll deal with that. But Carlton Davis 349 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: and then maybe Derek Barnes actually because I think they 350 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: really like him, are our two guys. 351 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: I could see them absolutely keeping. 352 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: All Right, We've done two teams in the NFC North, 353 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: probably the best division in football. We are going to 354 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we're going to be back 355 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: to talk about the Vikings the Pas back on NFL Daily. 356 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Wrapping up a great week here. 357 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: I love this time of year. 358 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: It's a good reset and I'm being real, like doing 359 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: an NFL daily doing a daily show at this time 360 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: of year is different, but it's it's been so different. 361 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: I've had so many similar off seasons that it's got me. 362 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: Kind of fired up. 363 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: To attack this part of the year with an energy 364 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: unknown to mankind and this exercise. 365 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just being selfish. Let us know what you 366 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: think of the. 367 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Off season previews, because we're going to do it for 368 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: the AFC coming up to anything that you would change, 369 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: because selfishly, I find it to be just a great exercise. 370 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, where are these teams out? It just 371 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: helps me feel like I know what is going on. 372 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially before you know because as the top one 373 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: oh one comes into it, its. 374 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: Final Monday, that's coming, It's coming in Monday. 375 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: And then you know everybody's into their mock drafts. Like 376 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: this is an integral part of that of considering where 377 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: the teams are where they want to be, and it's 378 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: all a part of the picture where you know, it's. 379 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: Are you where you want to be? 380 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: Though? 381 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing this weekend? Are you like 382 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: are you are you fulfilled? Are you taking a step 383 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: back and becoming the best Patrick you can be before 384 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: you're back on air all the time. 385 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: I would like to this weekend, we have our first 386 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: first basketball game of the season for Malcolm. Yeah, going 387 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 4: to celebrate my ninth wedding anniversary. 388 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: Congrats. 389 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 4: And you know, I've got a lot of dental stuff 390 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: coming up, and that always whenever it's like, oh yeah, 391 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: it's time to refine and improve and get ready for 392 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: quality of life, and my mouth is like, no Ah, 393 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: this hurts. 394 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's my biggest takeaway as getting older, Like 395 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the NFL off season is mostly for dental work. Yeah, 396 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: hopefully these next two teams won't feel like dental work 397 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: to talk about. I want to talk about the Bears. 398 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 399 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: Put ten minutes on the clock. 400 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: This is the team that I have faded on the 401 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: over under win lost draft three straight years. Successfully. Doesn't 402 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: mean I don't like your team. I just think they've 403 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: been overrated. You have the opening question here. Yes, I 404 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: think they have a real opportunity to not be overrated 405 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: going into this season if they play their cards right. 406 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: So Ben Johnson comes over and he's tasked with getting 407 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams to be the quarterback that we. 408 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: Believe that he can be. 409 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: Can Ben Johnson purely as a play caller and as 410 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: administrator of offense solve Caleb Williams' sack taking issue. Oh, 411 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: without making changes to the offensive line. Great, No, not entirely, 412 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: because it's a two part process. 413 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 414 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he can help improve the process in him get 415 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: rid of the ball faster. I think that's coaching. That's 416 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: a long term process. But the line's bad too, and 417 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: they don't have anyone right now on the interior, and 418 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the interior that they had last year obviously. 419 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: Didn't play well. 420 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: Matt Pryor Coleman Shelton, who is their center, Pryor was 421 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: a guard. Tevin Jenkins, who is probably the was their 422 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: best interior player, is also a free agent, so they 423 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: don't have anyone coming back. So I would say, no, 424 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: it's like impossible. They have to make moves now. It 425 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: could be through the draft. I think it is probably 426 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: the best way to improve your interior line and develop 427 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: these types of guys. But it can't just be coaching 428 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: points because two things can be true. It was on 429 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Caleb and it was on the offensive line, right. But 430 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: if I had to like grade which one, it was 431 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: more on I mean, I don't know, it's probably the 432 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: line was even a bigger factor than Caleb. 433 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: They were both pretty big, though. 434 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it took a village right to build the disaster 435 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: that we saw in twenty twenty four for the Bears 436 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: offense specifically, other than like late game moments where they're 437 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: in desperation mode and they're making their way down the field, 438 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: it was kind of chaotic. I thought it was interesting 439 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: when I looked at the roster that you have to 440 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: go down to like Darnell right as the biggest cap 441 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: hit for the offensive line, like number twelve on the team. 442 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: In these other contenders, you know, you see what you 443 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: pay for here, you see investment in linemen leading to results. Well, 444 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: the Bears really haven't been able to do it, and 445 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: and those are the results. And I just wonder because 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: we think of Ben Johnson with that veteran plus talented 447 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: offensive line in Detroit putting up a billion points and 448 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: to now, I think people might need to reset their 449 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: expectations a little bit, not just for Caleb but for 450 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson while they kind of navigate the talent issue 451 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: that they have up front in. 452 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: Chicago, the free agency list speak so much to what 453 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: teams value, Because what if I told you that the 454 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: best free agent guard that might actually become available is 455 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins of the Bears. 456 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: Like, there's no great ones. 457 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Available, So like Bears fans are gonna be like, hey, 458 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: who can we get in free agency? 459 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Actually? 460 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: Like, no, Tevin Jenkins, after a really rough start to 461 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: his career, became a solid player for them, and they 462 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: should look to bring him back. 463 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: They know them if they want to. 464 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: But there's there aren't great Like, there's no panacea in 465 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: free agency. It needs to be some values, some good 466 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: coaching ultimately improves your offensive line, and more than anything, 467 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: it's usually investing in the draft. And they've tried to 468 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Darnel Wright, like we'll see if he becomes a plus player. 469 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: He hasn't really been for them at right tackle, and 470 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: then at left tackle you have Braxton Jones, who's been 471 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: serviceable enough. Was a fifth round pick. But certainly they 472 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: could go over the top and try to improve. All right, 473 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: let's just do a little step back. They have the 474 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: number ten pick, They have their picks in general, they 475 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: have an extra two from Carolina still getting those picks, 476 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: So that's cool. That's a very valuable pick. That's a 477 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: top ten in the second round pick. So they have 478 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: three what in the top forty five, which is that's great, 479 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: and they have sixty two million dollars in cap space. 480 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: So in terms of picks plus space, there are very 481 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: few teams in the NFL that have as much flexibility 482 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: and value as the Bears right now. And that I 483 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: guess was a case for keeping Ryan Poles, for having 484 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: some continuity when when he's had some you know, pretty 485 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: bad moves and some great moves too. That's a good 486 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: one because you would hope like he can have some 487 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: cohesion with Ben Johnson and how he's gonna build this thing. 488 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's Ben Johnson had years to try to 489 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 4: find a landing spot to to evaluate those spots, and 490 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: I think like when we consider, right whether it's Peyton 491 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: going to the Broncos or Tom going to Tampa Bay, 492 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: right when you're picking your spot, like generally there's a 493 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: reason that you make these decisions, and so like Ben 494 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: Johnson has done the evaluation, and so I think that 495 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 4: is a place where we can be positive and maybe 496 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: Greg will be bullish on his on his Bears total 497 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: this year instead of fading them. 498 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be clear, three and oh, fading them, and 499 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they were. Were they close in any 500 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: of those years of it? It was I think it 501 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: was seven last year, yeah, no, it was like eight 502 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: and a half and they didn't even get closed. I 503 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: think it was nine and a half by the end. 504 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: People were all in on the Bears. That was why. 505 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: That was why I led with with fading them. 506 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: Nine and a half by the start of last years. 507 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: There is reason to be excited about them other than 508 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: they're in this division. They return literally every single defensive starter. 509 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: That's awesome, and most of them are guys that you 510 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: want back. It's not superstars. I do think they could 511 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: use more defensive line help. It's like you can say 512 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: this with so many teams and it's a good draft 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: for it. They need some younger edge players. You know, 514 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: you have Montes Sweat, DeMarcus Walker is your other starter there, 515 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: or defensive tackle, really any defensive line you could add. 516 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: And so it's similar to a lot of teams. I 517 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: think you need offensive line, defensive line, you might need 518 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: a running back, and it's a good draft class for 519 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: that as well. Unless Ben Jonson is into the DeAndre 520 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Swift reunion. 521 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: Haven't heard a lot of that, Like, I. 522 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: Mean, would that would that be the deciding factor if 523 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: they're sitting there at ten and Jenti's on the board 524 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: and it's like, well do we like DeAndre Swift? Like 525 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: hopefully now that probably is more we'll playing, uh to 526 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: that particular decision. 527 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: They could save some money if they cut Swift, like 528 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: six million dollars something like that, if they wanted and 529 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: replace them with a second or third round pick, even 530 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: if they didn't want gent Gerald Everett, you could you 531 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: could save some money. 532 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 533 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: And then yeah, they should start to look to extend 534 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: some of their guys that they can. There's not a 535 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: ton of them. Kyler Gordon though, stands out to me 536 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: as a young ascending player that would make a lot 537 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: of sense to extend this season. Now that the extension 538 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: when I when I keep bringing these up is they're 539 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: usually going to happen in the summer. They're not going 540 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: to happen before free agency. But Kyler Gordon is one 541 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: that you could watch there like they're in a nice, 542 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: a nice little spot without like a ton of crazy needs. 543 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: They got their wide receivers, they got their quarter back, but. 544 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: Like you said, the issue is right, the market has 545 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: decided where the value is on the interior offensive line, 546 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 4: and they have those they have those needs where people 547 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: aren't letting that talent go. 548 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you also could use that extra second 549 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: in a trade to move up for a veteran, But no, 550 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: I think I think taking an offensive lineman there. There's 551 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of former player connections with this team. So 552 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler was with Ben Johnson with the Lions last year. 553 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: That could be a guard you just bring in to 554 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: plug a hole there, Tim Patrick, if that does anything 555 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: for you, just as like a fourth receiver type, Paulson, 556 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Adebo Cam Jordan, Marcus Davenport, any of the old Dennis 557 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Allen favorites. 558 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: All of all of Dennis's big fans. 559 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, coming back to most of them, I can't say 560 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: they're all big fans necessarily. Dennis Allen always does well 561 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: with the secondary. I was wondering, like, how does Dennis 562 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Allen fit? They were built holding this whole defense for 563 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus, how does he fit? I think if Dennis 564 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Allen does one thing well in general, he's coordinated. 565 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: Defense as well. When he's not been the head coach. 566 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: But I think he's really good with secondary play, and 567 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: he's got a really good secondary to work with. So 568 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be like a drop 569 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: off for these guys who are really talented and they 570 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: could make it very difficult to play against the Spars defense. 571 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: It's a good squad, I think, right, Because you had 572 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: the injury concerns because I know Jakwan Brisker missed a 573 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 4: significant portion of the season with a very scary concussion, right, 574 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: But I say it all the time, every single player 575 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 576 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: Has a brain. 577 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: I don't think that we you know, of course we're concerned, right, 578 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: But I don't think it's a particular Oh. 579 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 5: I do he missed months, Yeah, it's like three months. No, 580 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: it was a devastating injury. But what I'm saying is 581 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: coming back. I don't necessarily have the long term concerns there. 582 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 5: I still think, right, because he'll be up in twenty 583 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: twenty six. I'm for if a player. 584 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: Is is good, Yeah, it slot them offers all the time, 585 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: make offers on like random Tuesdays, see if you can 586 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: keep him around, because like it's the risk reward is 587 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: always always take risk on good guys. 588 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brisker adds a physical element to that. Teven 589 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Tyreek stevenson of hail Mary face Well. Still sticking around 590 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: one player I didn't mention here, Keenan Allen is a 591 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: free agent. Definitely seemed like he was slowing down last year. 592 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't get the sense that that's something that will continue. 593 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: He says he wants to be like the Bears were 594 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: one of his teams that he would want. 595 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: To come back from. 596 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so that's it's an option. 597 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: They have the money. 598 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: That feels like more of a of a pick spot 599 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: or a lower tier veteran next to Rome and DJ Moore, 600 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: who are really the. 601 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: One and the two. 602 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: All Right, let's wrap up our NFC teams with the 603 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Ten minutes on the clock. Fifty six million 604 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. 605 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: That's a lot. It's a lot. 606 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: That's the good news. The bad news is they've only 607 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: got one pick in the top ninety. 608 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 609 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, why did that happen? And 610 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: then I forgot Uh. They gave up a second ultimately 611 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: in a in a series of moves, they ultimately gave 612 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: up a second, a third, and a fourth for Dallas Turner. Uh, 613 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: if you remember, was was the the pass rusher wasn't 614 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: even the first pass us A lot too went in 615 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: front of him. But they really believed in him. He 616 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: had a He had quite a quiet rookie year. Doesn't 617 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's not gonna have a good career, but 618 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: that's a lot of draft capital. So they better be 619 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: right on Dallas Turner. And either way, their draft this 620 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: season is a little quiet. They did get a third 621 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: round compensatory pick back though for Kirk Cousins that was 622 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: that was nice. 623 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: There we go, that's late late third. 624 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 625 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: My question for them is, you know, how do you 626 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: if you redo your secondary? As I was doing my 627 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: top one oh one, so many of the players were 628 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: from the Viking secondary Byren Murphy Top forty in my 629 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: one oh one really good season Pro Bowl games MVP 630 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, did you. 631 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Know that I did flag football? He got it done. 632 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: I think he picked off Burrow or something happened. Cam 633 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: Binham nice versatile player. It's been really important for Flores's 634 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: top forty player Stefan Gilmore. One of the best, like 635 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: one year at a time cornerbacks we've ever seen. And 636 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: then not on the free agent list, but says he's 637 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: strongly considering retiring Harrison Smith. So that's four guys in 638 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: one secondary. Secondary very important to Brian Flores. So that, 639 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: to me, is going to be a focus. How do 640 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: they kind of fix that secondary without a lot of 641 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: draft capital in one offseason? 642 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: I think, right, you start by bringing everybody back and 643 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: stuff on. Gilmore is not killing you, sure, it's it's 644 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: you have the cap space, bring him back three million dollars, 645 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: got fifty sixty one million dollars in cap space. I 646 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: don't see a need to necessarily be cute with trying 647 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 4: to save and pick between these guys on a good defense. Right, 648 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: there was a continuing defense throughout the year. They know 649 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: the system, they know why mess with it? 650 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I think Murphy is looking for a 651 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: big payday. I get the sense he's not as high 652 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: on the pecking order, but buying him, yeah, he has 653 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: more value to the Vikings than anyone else. Okay, you 654 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: bring buying him and Gilmore back. That's two out of 655 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: the four. I just talked about. Harrison Smith. You just 656 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: have to wait and see if he wants to play 657 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, I guess make it worth as whole. 658 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: He was still playing at a high level. I thought 659 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: he had a really good year last year. I was like, man, 660 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith never ages it'll. 661 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: It'll, the age will eventually show up. 662 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: But but why like Hall of Fame candidate, although it's 663 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: hard to get into the Hall of Fame these days apparently, 664 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: But yes, sneaky Hall of Fame caredate Smith. 665 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: They go on a run, he has a key interception. 666 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: You can to your your doubting it. Another question is 667 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out questions. Do you think about pairing 668 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: someone else with JJ and looking at the trade market 669 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: for Jordan Addison. I'm stealing this idea from Purple Daily, 670 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: which is a good podcast about the Vikings. They if 671 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: they can do daily on just the Vikings, we can 672 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: do daily on the entire NFL. And they threw out, 673 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, would this be a off season that they 674 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: trade Jordan Addison been a couple off field things and 675 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: his value would be really high. If you're looking at 676 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: him that a guy that's not going to get that 677 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: long term contract, his value will never be higher. Maybe 678 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: you get some of your picks back that way, or 679 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: you get a veteran, just a thought, just throwing that 680 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: out there. That's their thought, it's not mine, but I 681 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. 682 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: No, it is an interesting thought. I do tend to 683 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: feel like sunk costs is a logical fallacy. If you 684 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: feel like you gave up too much for Dallas Turner. 685 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: Then right, that shouldn't be why you did it. 686 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so then why would you kind of hamstring And 687 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: Hope is like, well, you know what's in the mystery box? 688 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: It could it could, It could be Jordan Addison. Well, 689 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 4: Jordan Madison is currently there and despite you know, those 690 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: off field issues still played at a high level. 691 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, there's it's. 692 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 4: Whoever whoever gets going to be too regardless, right, the 693 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: one is the one is always going to be the one. 694 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: And and I don't think taking away from the roster 695 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: solves anything. 696 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's funny. I actually misread my own notes 697 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: and I misinterpreted. I did have a note crazy idea 698 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: trade Addison question mark at the bottom. But when I 699 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: was saying who do you pair with JJ? I forgot 700 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I was talking about the quarterback. The quarterback is JJ McCarthy. 701 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: What's the other quarterback that's on this roster because right 702 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: now we don't know. That's a pretty big question Sam Donald. 703 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: We're just assuming he's gone. I'm not I think there's 704 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: like a small chance Sam Donald is still on this team. 705 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: What do you get back for Sam Donald? Do you 706 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: get anything back for Sam Donald, like in a tag 707 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: and trade? Are you able to work that out or 708 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: does he just walk away and you get a compensate 709 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Tory pick? And then what type of quarterback do you 710 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: pair with JJ McCarthy. Is it Daniel Jones who was 711 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: on the roster but is a free agent. Is it 712 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: more of a Jacoby Brissette Jamis Winston type. Like it's 713 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: important because JJ McCarthy is a young player coming off 714 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: a serious injury. So you need to have someone that 715 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: you can really believe in. If it's not seem. 716 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 4: Dark and I don't think the like based on the 717 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 4: way that we saw the twenty twenty four season play out, 718 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: where they would bring somebody in with concerns that all 719 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 4: this guy is too good and it's going to create 720 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: a conversation, you're gonna have issues. I think JJ McCarthy's 721 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 4: gonna be fine regardless. 722 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm the likely starter, regardless. But they also have to 723 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: see it and make sure he's healthy. 724 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: And all that. 725 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: But the guys that you mentioned, Jacoby Wes said, I 726 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 4: think could be successful in this offense. I think Jamis 727 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: could be successful with Kevin McCarthy's excuse me, Kevin O'Connell's offense, 728 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: where it's the things that you're asking the veteran to 729 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 4: do in the system wouldn't necessarily be what you're asking 730 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy to be, So I do think it would 731 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: be kind of a difference there. 732 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: Do you think Donald, What do you think get Donald? 733 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: I think Donald walks. 734 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 4: I think Sam played very good last year, and the 735 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: way that they feel about he gets an opportunity to 736 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 4: go somewhere, I think I think somebody's gonna have a 737 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 4: nice offer for Sam Donald when you're considering right that 738 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 4: teams are looking at Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr, like 739 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 4: the way that we talked about earlier this week, where 740 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: it's like, well, like who are these guys? Who do 741 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 4: we want? And then you see what Sam was able 742 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 4: to accomplish last year. I think there's a market for 743 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: Sam Donald that these other quarterbacks. Strictly when people are 744 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 4: looking at who's a veteran who could come in and 745 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 4: start for us this year. Sam Donald is going to 746 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: be number one for the majority of teo. 747 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: I think Stafford is going to be one, assuming he's available. 748 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: Well that's it. 749 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an if for some teams. 750 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: I actually think Donald might be higher for other teams 751 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: because of youth and maybe you're not gonna have give 752 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: up as much. It's one thing to keep an eye on. 753 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: It's a very tricky game of chicken trying to trade 754 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: Sam Donald under the franchise tag when you have no 755 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: real intention of keeping him. That is not how this 756 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: franchise tag is supposed to be used. Teams get around it. 757 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: But why I say that is you have to carve 758 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: out forty million dollars in cap space for Sam Donald 759 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: while he's still tagged. The deadline to do so is 760 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: March fourth. If another team just you know, wants to 761 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: wait it out or thinks you're gonna cut him or whatever, 762 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: you got that forty million dollars sitting there, it takes 763 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: a while for that those trades to process. Actually there 764 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: there could be like days of free agency that you 765 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: lose along the way, and so there's at least a 766 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: chance they just let him walk, and that annoys the 767 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: Vikings fans, but that would be some of the reasoning 768 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: for it. Now, if they're picking up word at the 769 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: combine next week that they have a good trade market 770 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: for Sam Donald and they feel they'll be able to 771 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: get a deal done sooner than later, then then they'll 772 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: do so and they'll get something for Donald. 773 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: Either way, I'd be shocked. 774 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 4: Well, I think if you're going the trade route, you 775 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 4: have to be okay with having Sam on your team 776 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. Like, it's not like a scenario 777 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 4: where you go in thinking like we're well tag him 778 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 4: and then we're looking for a trade. You have to 779 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 4: be okay with either outcome. And if they are, I 780 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: think that puts them in a good position where it's 781 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 4: not just smoke at the combine. It's Hey, if you 782 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: guys would like a quarterback that's very viable. You could 783 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: trade for him. But you're not gonna hold us hostage 784 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: and wait for us to cut him because he could 785 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: be starting for it. 786 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: Like if a team was willing to tell the VI 787 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: and it's early next week's really the week or we 788 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: find this out. If a team was willing to give 789 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: up a second round pick for Sam Darnald, like they 790 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: might have already even done. So we've seen quarterback trades 791 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: happen before this time. It happened with Stafford, happened with Cousins, 792 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: And if it's just a third round pick, then you 793 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: just let them walk because a third round pick's not 794 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: worth it. You're getting a compensed story third back, and 795 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: then you're losing a lot of. 796 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: Time, a lot of drama, a lot of. 797 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: Mess, and teams might now want to give a monster 798 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: contract to Sam Darnold and like a high pick. 799 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: That's a lot for a. 800 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: Guy who is freely available the last two off seasons 801 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: for pretty little, right, right, I mean Stafford's one thing. 802 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: That guy's won a Super Bowl and he might be 803 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: headed to the Hall of Fame. We have one minute left. 804 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: I will mention Aaron Jones is a free agent pretty 805 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: high among my running backs. Who would you rank first, 806 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones or Naj Harris as free agent running backs? 807 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: JK. Dobbins is an option, but I don't have it. 808 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: I would give the age and burst bonus, even though 809 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: like the burst is variable with Naji. I would give 810 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: it to Naji Harris, but you know, I'm a known 811 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 4: Naji Harris support. 812 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 2: I'm torn. 813 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is such a good player, but like by 814 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: the end of last year he faded just a little bit. 815 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: He'd be a really good one. B So I guess 816 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: in that role for a little less money than the 817 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Vikings played him this year, I would love to have. 818 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: I guess I would trik Baron Jones. 819 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: Hight. 820 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: That's it. We did it all in the time allotted. 821 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: Eric's got such a big smile on his face. Look 822 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: up and I see forty minutes on the clock. Guys, 823 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: this is historic where we're sending you out, you know, 824 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: into the Inglewood Knights, head into the valley to see 825 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: your your beautiful son and your wife earlier than expected. 826 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: I love it. Yes, that is the week. 827 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: And as Patrick you mentioned the top one O one, 828 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: it is coming out. 829 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: I think it's coming out on Monday. It's due. Like 830 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: I got to send in that copy. 831 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the studio to start working on the copy. 832 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 4: Give it, give it to him, give it to him 833 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: ten at a time. Okay, we'll do like a slow 834 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: extended release for the most anticipated article on NFL dot 835 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 4: com every single year. 836 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I'll tease it for 837 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: our audience right here, right at the top. I mean 838 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: that the names aren't as good as they usually are, 839 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: but I mean, at the very top, T Higgins. T 840 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: Higgins has won, Trey Smith of the Chiefs two, Ronnie Stanley, 841 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: Milton Williams, Zach Bond, Sam Darnold, Osa Diggi, Zua Joshuat, 842 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. We'll see if all these guys actually become 843 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: free agents. And then I'm debating Amari Cooper, Carlton Davis, 844 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: Tarvarius Ward in the next group, DJ Reid. 845 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: Though those are pretty good names, take it back. 846 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 6: What you need to do, Greg, is how some of 847 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 6: these like blog sites really kitchens. These lists they're listed reverse, 848 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 6: so you put one at the bottom of the page 849 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 6: and really force people to get through. 850 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: You know, I will try. I have been debating who 851 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: every year. People want to know who is going to 852 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: be my one oh one. It's a guy that just 853 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: stays at one oh one, no matter who is cut 854 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: and added. We have some options, and maybe if you're 855 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: listening to this, you could you could tell me who 856 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: you think. Daniel Jones is kind of my leader in 857 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: the clubhouse because He just feels like a one on one. 858 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: But he might be better than that. Maybe he's better 859 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: than that. Deontay Johnson would be a funny one. I 860 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: think that would be good Deontay Johnson. 861 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: It feels high for. 862 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy G. I know, I didn't know. Jimmy G. Feels 863 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: like a potential one on one. 864 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's kind of the backup quarterbacks, 865 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: and then there's there's less big name like zach Ertz 866 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: could be could be in that mix. 867 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel fun though. I like zach Ertz, Jacoby. 868 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: The whole thing is fun. Get we got to do like, 869 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 4: you know, like the top one hundred players. We got 870 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 4: to sit everybody down and do like interviews at all. 871 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: I do. 872 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: I do want to hear Daniel Jones. I feel like 873 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones or Deontay Johnson. It just feels like a 874 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: one oh one. Tomorrow Hamlin crossed my mind. He's sort 875 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: of in that range where he could be one on one, 876 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: because it's an honor to be one on one. 877 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 3: Nice. 878 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: I think I want to put Tomorrow even a little higher. 879 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 3: Given. 880 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 6: There we go, Pops, somebody gives them an honor he 881 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 6: deserves great. 882 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: There you go, let's play the music. It's been a 883 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: great week. Like I said, Top one on one coming 884 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: out on Monday. We will talk about that next week 885 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: on the show. We're headed to Indianapolis. Uh, We're gonna 886 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: get some great interviews there. I will be at the 887 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: Combine doing shows Monday through Wednesday. 888 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, like when 889 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: We're getting on a plane leaving sunny Los Angeles to 890 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: go to cold Indianapolis, you know it's the regular season