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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Shut Down Day fifteen, I think,

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Speaker 1: and things are actually heating up a little bit on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill and with the Schumer shut down, Democrats trying

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Speaker 1: to play a bit of hardball. You had Speaker Johnson

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Speaker 1: holding a press conference this morning. I watched it as

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Speaker 1: I was drinking my delicious crack at coffee, as one does.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you're watching these press conferences, so

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Speaker 2: others do not be hab to watch these press conferences,

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Speaker 2: because that sounds miserable.

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Speaker 1: We still haven't figured out what like nice you know,

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Speaker 1: wine and cheese basket you're gonna send me for being

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Speaker 1: the one of this duo to read Kamalas one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seven days, Clay, that.

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Speaker 3: Was towards you finished day. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I read it on the on the Taiwan plane.

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Speaker 1: I read it, and my lord, you know it's every

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Speaker 1: day is a chapter. Think about that, think about the

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Speaker 1: mentality or rather every chapter? Yeah, every chapter. And so

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Speaker 1: you're like, wait, I have Once you get deep enough in,

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Speaker 1: you're like, I have seventy more chapters of this.

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Speaker 2: Organized. I guess it's very simple to organize in that respect.

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Speaker 2: But so it's just a minute analysis of the entire campaign.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm just saying, you're leaving some of us behind

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Speaker 1: taking slings and arrows. While you're out there at the

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Speaker 1: beach at the new house. Some of us are reading

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Speaker 1: Kamala's memoir because you know team player and all that,

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Speaker 1: you know it was. It was actually more brutal than

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Speaker 1: I thought. Let's get into the realities of this shutdown

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Speaker 1: and what is at stake. Also China, China saying that

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Speaker 1: they are going to play hardball with Trump on trade,

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Speaker 1: gearing up for what they think will be another stock

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Speaker 1: market plunge. They're going to try to make the market

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Speaker 1: plunge in this country. So we'll discuss that and then

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Speaker 1: something else, just a story in the background for us

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Speaker 1: to dive into as we can. The percentage of students

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Speaker 1: a cliff. Isn't that so interesting? And we will get

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Speaker 1: into why that is and what, of course the left

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Speaker 1: will be saying about this. We've also got Ryan Gerdusky

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Speaker 1: joining us later on the program, but talk about the

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Speaker 1: big elections coming up in a few weeks and then

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Speaker 1: we'll also be talking a bit of California, my friend,

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Speaker 1: we'll be having a California discussion with Steve Hilton, who

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Speaker 1: is running for Governor's there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: Also, as we are talking to all of you, there's

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Speaker 2: actually a very potentially transformative Supreme Court case that is

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Speaker 2: being argued basically about majority black districts and how you

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Speaker 2: reconcile that with the equal Protection Clause. And there is

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Speaker 2: a possibility, and it is not an insignificant one, that

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Speaker 2: we could see all racial Jerrymanderin declared unconstitutional as a

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Speaker 2: part of this court case, and so there's questioning going

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Speaker 2: on about that right now, and it could be incredibly

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Speaker 2: incredibly impactful for what, for instance, the House is going

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Speaker 2: to look like in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Because right now, and this is.

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Speaker 2: Legal nerding a little bit, there is a balancing act

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Speaker 2: between how you apply the Civil Rights Act, which has

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Speaker 2: been applied to basically permit these majority black districts, even

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Speaker 2: require them, while also analyzing it in the context of

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Speaker 2: the of the sort of equal protection clause which would

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Speaker 2: not allow race to be factored in, and then how

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Speaker 2: is it implicated with for instance, affirmative action in race

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Speaker 2: So it's a big case, and I think there is

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Speaker 2: a possibility the Supreme Court finally says, once and for all,

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Speaker 2: racial gerrymanagering is unconstitutional. It's certainly not necessary compared to

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Speaker 2: that could be profoundly transformative.

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Speaker 1: I think that our guiding light is it load star?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that?

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Speaker 3: How you say?

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Speaker 1: Is that the load star?

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Speaker 2: I know there's the loan there star state, but isn't

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Speaker 2: loads There's a load star. There's also the North Star

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Speaker 2: as the light upon which you should follow. So there's

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Speaker 2: multiple different stars that are guiding lights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look at Clay with the astronomy over here, he's

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Speaker 1: a man of many talents. Where's many hats. But yes,

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Speaker 1: our load star on this, on all these issues, should

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Speaker 1: be the best way to stop discriminating by race is

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Speaker 1: to stop discriminating by race, which I'm pretty sure is Alito?

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Speaker 1: Was that Alito?

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Speaker 2: Or was that I think it was John Roberts. I

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Speaker 2: think it was the majority opinion of John Roberts, if

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Speaker 2: I remember correctly, if you guys can go back and

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Speaker 2: at that majority opinion, and that's his line.

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Speaker 1: You know, balls and strikes. Sometimes even Morning Joe gets

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Speaker 1: it right, you know what I mean? So there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's dive into this shutdown brinksmanship here

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Speaker 1: for a second, because what's happened Klayce. So we're in

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Speaker 1: day fifteen. You've got military members, and you've got people

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Speaker 1: who are working for the government in things we actually

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Speaker 1: need and want the government to do, who at this

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Speaker 1: point have missed a paycheck. Right, most people are paid

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Speaker 1: bi weekly, So now if you are paycheck to paycheck,

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Speaker 1: there's no money. So now you're running up credit card bills,

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Speaker 1: and now the family stress is increasing. And it's very

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Speaker 1: important that the American people understand Republicans were ready to

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Speaker 1: do the same funding that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats

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Speaker 1: voted for what was the last March. I think they're

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Speaker 1: willing to just keep funding the government. Democrats are holding

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Speaker 1: hostages here. Democrats are the ones that won't go forward

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Speaker 1: and do this in a reasonable rational way. And the

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Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Scott Vessen is saying this is just going

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Speaker 1: to start lighting our money as a country on fire

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Speaker 1: if we don't get this thing at all. This is

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Speaker 1: cut to Secretary Besant play it.

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Speaker 4: We call on the moderate Democrats in the Senate to

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Speaker 4: be heroes, be heroes, break away from the hive of radicalism,

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Speaker 4: and do something for the American people, because we are

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Speaker 4: starting to cut into muscle here. We believe that the

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Speaker 4: shutdown may start costing the US economy up to fifteen billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollars a day.

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Speaker 4: And this is a decision that Democrats are making. And

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons that they are not being held

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Speaker 4: to task is because the mainstream media is not coming

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Speaker 4: at them the way they would have if the Republicans

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. Now they don't have play. I think

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Speaker 1: we could agree the same power that they once did

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Speaker 1: to completely shape and dominate the narrative on this. But

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Speaker 1: we do know that if this was a different circumstance,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats would be pounding the damage of the shutdown

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Speaker 1: all that I'm sorry, the media would be pounding the

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Speaker 1: shutdown damage all day long and making sure that it

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Speaker 1: was front and center in every newscast, in every news cycle.

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Speaker 1: But it's on the Republicans, I'm sorry. On the Democrats, yes,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, and I just I understand there's starting

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Speaker 1: to be some impact. I have the sneaking suspicion they're

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Speaker 1: doing another one of these stupid no Kings rallies this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I believe buck for all of the people who are

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Speaker 1: complete losers and can't find a better way to fit

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Speaker 1: to spend a spectacular fall weekend than walking around screaming

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Speaker 1: want to try to strip its momentum to actually preach

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Speaker 1: in agreement. That's my conspiracy theory here, because if you

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Speaker 1: No King's rally, then everybody's like, do have kings?

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Speaker 3: Oh by?

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Speaker 2: And all of this is about Chuck Schumer and Hakeem

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Speaker 2: Jack Freeze trying to maintain their limited House and Senate

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Speaker 2: I think that's really what this is based on more

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Speaker 2: the knee sometime next week, that's my guess. I also

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Speaker 2: think Trump stole so much of the thunder with the

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Speaker 2: Middle East Peace agreement. I just don't even hear that

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Speaker 2: many people asking about this. Does anybody come up to you?

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Speaker 2: People come up and ask all sorts of questions. When

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Speaker 2: I'm out and about, nobody's asking about the shutdown. And

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Speaker 2: I understand people out there who have government jobs, and

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Speaker 2: some of you are listening to us. You're gonna get paid,

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Speaker 2: and so there isn't any suggestion that eventually you're not

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Speaker 2: gonna get paid. Now, maybe you don't have savings, and

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Speaker 2: I get that's frustrating you have to pull out the

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Speaker 2: credit cards and things like that. But this is all

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Speaker 2: Democrat driven, and I think it's much connected to this

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Speaker 2: No King's rally on the a teenth, where they're trying

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Speaker 2: the rally. I really think there's a big part of

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Speaker 2: it that's just predicated on this.

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Speaker 1: That's definitely. I think the analysis you put forward on

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Speaker 1: next week sounds very reasonable, very likely to me. And

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Speaker 1: as we're seeing where this goes, remember Republicans have voted

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Speaker 1: nine times to reopen the government. So the Republicans have said,

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Speaker 1: let's go. They're not the ones that are the sand

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Speaker 1: It is the Democrats who have sabotaged the reopen and

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Speaker 1: it is because now they say they want another one

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Speaker 1: point five trillion dollars in spending. They're in the minority.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't be in a position to make these kinds

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Speaker 1: of right now, good sense and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who anxiety is rising. Look, you know, Clay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: People are going to get paid. But having been a

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Speaker 1: And it's it's just an anxiety if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm showing up. And remember this is now we're talking

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Speaker 1: not about people who there's a lot of what I

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Speaker 1: the Beltway, where you show up, you don't show up,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. We're talking about military service members.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about people that we have as a society,

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Speaker 1: as a country, asked to do these jobs because they

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Speaker 1: need to be done, and I know we're gonna end

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Speaker 1: up paying them. But the Schumer shutdown is just complete theatrics.

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Speaker 1: It's unnecessary, and it's to your point about the No

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Speaker 1: Kings rally, it's just so they can say we stand

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Speaker 1: and fight, we stand and fight Trump, and that Chuck

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: This is not based on what's best for the country.

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Speaker 2: It's based on what's best for the Democrat Party. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's lost that. Essentially, you have two

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Speaker 2: who is I think a middling at best leader for

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. Whatever you think of Nancy Pelosi, she

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Speaker 2: strategically she had some sort of vision. Chuck Schumer, I

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Speaker 2: think also very middling level leader in the Senate, and

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Speaker 2: they recognize that they are being challenged Look, there's talk

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Speaker 2: out there that one of Mamdani's top political aids is

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Speaker 2: going to challenge Hakeem Jeffries in the midterm and may

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Speaker 2: of being in Congress at all, which is a sign

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Speaker 1: concessions because we thought it would make things better. Now

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Speaker 1: we've reached a point where everybody should understand that that

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Speaker 1: was a effectively temporary emergency measure and should no longer

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Speaker 1: be the case. We should not have racial entitlements masquerading

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Speaker 1: as civil rights protections, and that is what this is.

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Speaker 1: If a state is allowed if the people in a

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Speaker 1: state are allowed to redistrict however they see fit. Really,

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Speaker 1: because it's left to the states. But here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like drawing the borders of a country. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what justifies the borders of a country? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a complicated thing, but really it's lines on a map.

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Speaker 1: Then they fight over it and whatever. But there's not

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Speaker 1: some more like the border between the US and Canada

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Speaker 1: is not a moral question, it's a political question. That's

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Speaker 1: one that we have solved with our northern neighbors. The

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Speaker 1: borders of congressional districts in various states are left through

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Speaker 1: the processes and the legislatures in those states, and everybody

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Speaker 1: should just be playing by the same rules within that state.

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Speaker 1: There shouldn't be a oh, we don't have enough black

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Speaker 1: majority districts in this state, so therefore this map is

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Speaker 1: unfair because it is an equal protection clause violation. Because

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Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans sit there and say, hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, my vote has been nullified effectively by the

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Speaker 1: state legislature, So why isn't it and why is that okay?

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Speaker 1: But overwhelmingly Democrat black voters in a lot of these

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Speaker 1: states get to have a special protection. No, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: We either all live if by the same rules, or

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Speaker 1: we don't. The complex distilled down to the simple, I

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Speaker 1: rest my case, counselor.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, and I think that's where we're headed.

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Speaker 2: Let me add on a couple of layers here that

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Speaker 2: are hopefully not super legal nerd esque. The problem here

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Speaker 2: was one that should and needed to be ridressed, right.

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Speaker 2: The problem is the problem is fixed. It no longer exists,

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Speaker 2: and so the precedent that made sense in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: five doesn't make sense in twenty twenty five. I would

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Speaker 2: also point this out. It is predicated on the idea

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Speaker 2: that black voters are monolithic in the way that they vote.

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Speaker 2: That is increasingly not the case. This is why I

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Speaker 2: think it's significant that Donald Trump got twenty one percent

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Speaker 2: of black men of their vote in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: One in five black guys said Trump's my guy. A

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Speaker 2: lot of black guys are listening to us right now

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Speaker 2: that are a part of that team, and it's growing,

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Speaker 2: and there are more some of you guys out there.

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Speaker 2: You used to never be able to find another Black Republican.

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Speaker 2: Now one in five. I mean, I bet you're finding

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Speaker 2: a lot more people that are open to your arguments.

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Speaker 2: Black women too. This has been applied Buck, for Hispanic voters.

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Speaker 2: Hispanic voters are basically now fifty to fifty. They're much

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Speaker 2: more similar to white voters or Asian voters, where you

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Speaker 2: don't have a strong sense of how somebody's going to

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Speaker 2: vote based on their race and gender. If you see

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Speaker 2: a white guy, now somebody see a white chick where

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Speaker 2: in the Rachel Maddow specs, you probably got a pretty

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Speaker 2: good chance.

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Speaker 3: Hey that's a lib.

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Speaker 2: But by and large, you see a white person, they

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Speaker 2: could be conservative, they could be liberal, they could be

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Speaker 2: who they don't care about politics at all. Same thing

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Speaker 2: as increasingly becoming true of Hispanic voters. As you know

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Speaker 2: because you live in Miami, Buck, there's also a huge

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Speaker 2: difference between a Cuban voter and a recent immigrant from

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Speaker 2: Mexico or Venezuela or The Hispanic voting block is actually

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Speaker 2: very diverse depending on where that Hispanic voter is from.

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Speaker 2: The mono thick nature of Black support for the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party is crumbling. In times like these, they trot out

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Speaker 2: someone like Katanji Brown Jackson to argue not based on

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Speaker 2: the law. But oh my goodness, based on the result

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Speaker 2: of this case, it would be harmful politically to Democrats,

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Speaker 2: and that is why she is a political actor more

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Speaker 2: than she is a judge, and that is unfortunate. One

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Speaker 2: of the arguments we make here, and this goes to

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Speaker 2: disparate impact, which is I think a inherently incorrect legal

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Speaker 2: philosophy of Well, if the end result isn't the same

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Speaker 2: among arbitrary distinctions that we're going to make between people,

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Speaker 2: then there's something wrong with that law. If the law

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Speaker 2: is universally applicable and everybody has to live under it,

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Speaker 2: the outcome of that law does, and then the law

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Speaker 2: is ethical and moral. The outcome of that law does

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Speaker 2: not matter to me a meaning, And this is where

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Speaker 2: we get into there is a disparate impact.

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Speaker 1: I know you love this argument, but saying this for

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Speaker 1: a long time, Clay, there's a disparate impact between men

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Speaker 1: and women in homicides. That doesn't mean that homicide laws

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Speaker 1: are bad. It just means that more men kill people,

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean they're sexist in particular.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that men are being targeted by homicide

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Speaker 2: laws because men happen to be impacted by them more so.

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Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is, if we're going to

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Speaker 2: have a society where we don't have racial entitlements, we

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Speaker 2: have to remove racial entitlements, including holdovers from the Civil

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Speaker 2: Rights era, like Section two of the Voting Rights Act.

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Speaker 2: And Clay, you were correct. It was John Roberts for

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Speaker 2: the win on to stop discriminating by race. Stop discriminating

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Speaker 2: by race. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Alito is my favorite, so I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be an Alito move, but it was actually Roberts.

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Speaker 3: So good on.

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Speaker 2: You probably the best sentence of John Roberts's career. The

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Speaker 2: way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is

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Speaker 2: to stop discriminating on the basis of race. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand how that same LODG does not govern when it

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Speaker 2: comes to analyzing racial jerrymandering. And I hope John Roberts

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Speaker 2: will apply the same principle in this case as he

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Speaker 2: did in the decision having to do basically with whether

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Speaker 2: or not there can be affirmative action in schools. So

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Speaker 2: that is going to be a huge decision. Maybe some

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Speaker 2: of you are trying to face a huge decision. What

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Speaker 2: do you do for the holiday season? I know I

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Speaker 2: just said the holiday season, and some of you are

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Speaker 2: having alarm bells go off, and you know it's basically

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Speaker 2: two months till Christmas, two months until Christmas? What are

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Speaker 7: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could.

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Speaker 5: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show appreciates all of you,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of reactions pouring in. Pamela just said,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ihop in Pensacola, having breakfast. Almost spit out

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Speaker 2: my coffee with your remark about the danger women may

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Speaker 2: be in. Thank goodness, I was only drinking coffee, not

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Speaker 2: eating the sausage. You have only yourself to blame, Buckster,

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Speaker 2: so appreciate Pamela. I'm glad that she is still alive.

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Speaker 2: And there are there are a lot of reactions rolling

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Speaker 2: in and we are having a great deal of Fuschia.

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Speaker 1: Tell everybody, take your time, cheer your food. It's very straightforward.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 4: The View.

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Speaker 3: This is fun. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So those of you who follow us on social media,

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Speaker 2: as you all should be doing, you can find us

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Speaker 2: at YouTube. You can find us at Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a social media platform we're not on.

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Speaker 2: Know that we have had a lot of fun with

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Speaker 2: the View over the years, and we just shared from

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Speaker 2: producer Ali and producer Ali you can come up if

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Speaker 2: you want and tell the full story here. But a

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Speaker 2: while back, Ali said, hey, we'll invite you. We'll tell

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Speaker 2: the View people, Hey, Clay and Buck are happy to

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Speaker 2: come on the show. So in July and I just

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Speaker 2: shared this email from Ali to the View and I

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Speaker 2: will read it for all of you. This is a

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Speaker 2: producer at the View. Hi lour conservative radio host Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck would like to pitch themselves as guests on

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Speaker 2: the View. They often play clips from the program on

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Speaker 2: their nationally syndicated radio show Granted as a means to

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Speaker 2: refute them, and thought a sit down would be productive

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Speaker 2: for both audiences since they come from two completely different perspectives.

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Speaker 2: Buck lives in Miami and Clay lives in Nashville, but

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Speaker 2: they'd be willing to travel to New York. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the consideration. This went out in July. Now I'm

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Speaker 2: going to pull Ali up in a sec. But first,

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Speaker 2: here is Joy Behar saying, you know, the truth of

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Speaker 2: the matter is Republicans won't come on the show.

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Speaker 3: They're afraid to listen.

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Speaker 8: I think that we should have more Republicans on the show,

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Speaker 8: but they don't want to come on.

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Speaker 9: They're scan of us.

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Speaker 8: It's like like Marjorie's Hyla Green says that she finds

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Speaker 8: the Republican men afraid of powerful women. Well, that's maybe

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Speaker 8: true of all of political persuasions. But if they would

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Speaker 8: come on this show and they can explain to us

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Speaker 8: what they're trying to do to this can.

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Speaker 2: We Okay, well, I don't think Bucket Eye are afraid

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Speaker 2: of powerful women.

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Speaker 1: Challenge accepted, Chile accepted.

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Speaker 2: All right, Producer, Ali, you have now written another email

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Speaker 2: to the View reiterating.

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Speaker 3: You can come up.

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Speaker 2: But the email that I read you sent in July

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Speaker 2: was their response to that email from the View.

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Speaker 10: Yes, actually there was a quick response, very quick, saying

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Speaker 10: they only had two more episodes to shoot, so their

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Speaker 10: schedule was full and they wouldn't be back until the fall,

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Speaker 10: at which point I said, Okay, I'll follow up in

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Speaker 10: the fall. And I followed up today and I have

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Speaker 10: I'm waiting to hear back.

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Speaker 2: And you said, I tell you this is important. We're

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Speaker 2: happy to do it.

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Speaker 3: This is important.

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Speaker 1: The View, according to groc, has frequently had two guests

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Speaker 1: on simultaneously, two guests including politicians, authors, actors, and even

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Speaker 1: musical guests who are there as a duo. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to be clear, there is no reason why

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Speaker 1: they could not have a Clay and buckethon on the

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Speaker 1: View based on the established parameters they have for guests

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Speaker 1: in the past, because I don't I don't want them

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Speaker 1: throwing that at us either. We can because if what

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Speaker 1: they'll try to do. If it's just one of us,

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to overtalk and just have too

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Speaker 1: many voices shouting at you at the same time.

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Speaker 10: Just make sure you bring that third hat. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I would bring a hat for Alyssa Farr Griffin and

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Speaker 2: I would hand it to her and I would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: since Trump's brought back to hostages, here is a red

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Speaker 2: Maga hat. You can put that on for this entire

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Speaker 2: segment to honor President Trump's great job in bringing back

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Speaker 2: the hostages.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I think that she actually

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Speaker 1: would be willing to wear the hat. I think that

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Speaker 1: she worries that if she wore that hat it would

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Speaker 1: trigger other members of the table too much, like they

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Speaker 1: would even though she said this was the marker that

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Speaker 1: she laid out there, I think she realizes that the

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Speaker 1: rest of the table would throw a fit about it.

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Speaker 3: Would they have?

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Speaker 1: They have no sense of humor about it at all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Joy Behar has a writing team. They

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Speaker 1: write all of her jokes. She's actually not that funny.

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Speaker 1: She's not coming up with this stuff on the fly

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Speaker 1: if you watch her closely. Now I'm throwing down the

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Speaker 1: gomble a little bit you watch her closely, she's trying

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Speaker 1: to find ways to get in lines that have been

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Speaker 1: written by her writers.

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Speaker 3: I will give this doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 1: She does look great for her age, though, to be fair, Joy,

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Speaker 1: you look great. I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Also, she is probably not aware of most of the guests,

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Speaker 2: so she may think to herself when she says Republicans

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Speaker 2: are afraid to go on the show, because, to be fair,

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Speaker 2: people pitch themselves.

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Speaker 3: On this show all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, producer Ali, you can say, like if people

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Speaker 2: out there like, is this a common thing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: we get pitches, hundreds of pitches a year, maybe thousands,

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Speaker 2: dozens a day of people who are saying, hey, we'd

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Speaker 2: like to come on as a guest. So and most

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Speaker 2: of them we never Bucket, neither Buck nor I are

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Speaker 2: going and saying we can't have this person on. So

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know that Joy is aware of the

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Speaker 2: number of people who are reaching out that would be

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Speaker 2: willing to come on. So when she's saying that, she

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Speaker 2: may actually believe Buck that she's being truthful. She is not, however,

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Speaker 2: and we just you know, we shared the so called

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Speaker 2: receipts of the invitation that we put out there. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're happy to come on. And by the way, you know,

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Speaker 2: we would have Alyssa on this show, you know, if

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Speaker 2: they wanted to put a view member on this show

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Speaker 2: to promote their show. I mean, we're not running and

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Speaker 2: hiding from any of that. Speaking of running and hiding, though, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you were talking about this a little bit earlier. And

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Speaker 2: we've got a couple of guests, by the way, coming

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Speaker 2: in the third hour, our buddy Ryan Gardusky. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the absolute latest on Virginia, New York City,

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Speaker 2: and New Jersey as those elections get closer. Steve Hilton

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Speaker 2: out in California to talk about the Katie Porter insanity

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Speaker 2: and the potential run there. I wanted to play this

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Speaker 2: because this is one of the people that is running

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Speaker 2: to be a Democrat nominee for California when Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: is forced to turn limit himself out and she went

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Speaker 2: on Piers Morgan and the LA is going to have

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Speaker 2: the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. The Summer Olympics are

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Speaker 2: taking place in Los Angeles. Should be awesome, It be

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun to watch. But Piers Morgan asked

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Speaker 2: this Democrat California governor's candidate, Hey, what do you think

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Speaker 2: about the idea of trans women, that is, men pretending

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Speaker 2: to be women being able to compete in the Olympics?

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Speaker 2: And he followed up, and I just want to play

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Speaker 2: a cut from this because these people have lost their

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Speaker 2: minds and they're totally trapped on this trans argument.

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Speaker 9: Listen, this seems to me like you would like to

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Speaker 9: remove any any sexual differentation between the Olympic sports. I

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Speaker 9: let them all compete, it would be gender neutral with

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Speaker 9: it if you were governor.

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Speaker 11: Well, again, I want to be sure that everyone has

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Speaker 11: the ability to compete.

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Speaker 9: Would you have a gender neutral Olympics where you would

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Speaker 9: have not you wouldn't have male and female sport, then

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Speaker 9: you just have one one that everyone could join in.

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Speaker 11: Well, I don't think we're going to get that tomorrow,

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Speaker 11: but I think it's a conversation worth having.

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Speaker 9: You think it's a conversation worth having where you have

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Speaker 9: gender neutral Olympics.

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Speaker 11: Because we need to understand what the attributes are of

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Speaker 11: athletes across the spectrum.

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Speaker 9: You've already said that you understand the reason they separate

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Speaker 9: the sexes is that men have a physical advantage over women.

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Speaker 2: He also did, maybe we can grab this because I

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Speaker 2: think it really kind of brings it home. He says, wait,

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Speaker 2: you think that a woman should run against Usain Bolt

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Speaker 2: in the one hundred meters, the fastest man in the

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Speaker 2: history of the world, and you think that's going to

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Speaker 2: be a fair competition, And basically she says yes, she

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Speaker 2: doesn't know, maybe them and would win. These people are crazy, buck,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know how they get off of this

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Speaker 2: crazy train without.

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Speaker 1: Having the Supreme Court. I think your argument that you've

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Speaker 1: already hit.

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Speaker 3: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's well, by the way, there is there are a

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Speaker 1: few things that are making their way toward the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court right now. In fact, there is litigation out of

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Speaker 1: I think it's in Colorado. The case is little the Hetcocks,

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Speaker 1: maybe heacocks, but it's a transgender student who wanted to

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Speaker 1: be on the girls cross country team and this and

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Speaker 1: brought suit back in twenty twenty. Really at the peak

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Speaker 1: of this, Yeah, I wanted to join. Oh yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is no it's Idaho that I said Colorado, sorry, Idaho, Idaho,

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Speaker 1: Boise State. So it's college, it's college level and wanted

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Speaker 1: to be on the women's college cross country team sued, sued,

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Speaker 1: and a Ninth Circuit judge ended up getting involved in

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Speaker 1: this and now it's law. Without getting too deep into

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Speaker 1: the weeds on this, the situation is that the original

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Speaker 1: plaintiff is trying to try to withdraw his case as

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Speaker 1: a her try to withdraw the case Clay because they

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Speaker 1: don't want the Supreme Court to actually take this up.

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Speaker 1: And a federal judge just today, Judge Nie who is

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Speaker 1: a Trump appointee, said, oh, no, you're not doing this,

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Speaker 1: you know, hide the football situation here. You wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring a federal lawsuit about you know, discrimination, saying that

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Speaker 1: you're actually to be treated as a woman. We're taking

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Speaker 1: We're taking this thing on, like let's go. And now

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Speaker 1: it looks like the Supreme Court is eventually going to

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Speaker 1: be taking this up, and I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: have to weigh in on no men or men and

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Speaker 1: women are women and we're allowed to make different decisions

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Speaker 1: about the two in law as a matter of law.

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Speaker 2: There is a going to give them credit here, great

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Speaker 2: long form piece in the New York Times recently looking

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Speaker 2: at the Scurmetti case. Jonathan Scrimetti is the Attorney General

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Speaker 2: of the state of Tennessee. The Supreme Court came out

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Speaker 2: and said that the state can restrict this so called

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Speaker 2: gender affirming care for miners, that there is a state interest,

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Speaker 2: and the trans community is in a panic because they

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Speaker 2: thought that they were going to be able to win

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Speaker 2: these cases, basically that the trans treatments and all this

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Speaker 2: stuff on miners is actually okay, and instead they're losing.

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Speaker 2: And what you just pointed out as an important point,

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Speaker 2: they're now trying to avoid giving the Supreme Court an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to strike down a lot of the state laws.

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Speaker 2: And so they're trying to pull back now because they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, the same logic of Scurmetti is certainly going

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Speaker 2: to apply in sports.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The transactivists don't want their day in court all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, Yes, isn't that so interesting to see? They

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Speaker 1: want to rely and this goes into the Weeds book.

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Speaker 1: They want to rely on like the Ninth Circuit and

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Speaker 1: some of the liberal circuit courts without having to get

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Speaker 1: a nationwide ruling, so that in California and Oregon and Washington,

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Speaker 1: the crazy arguments can prevail instead of the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: slapping it down. So I'm very familiar with this tactic,

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Speaker 1: Clay because as a longtime New York City and New

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Speaker 1: York State resident, particularly on the New York City side,

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Speaker 1: this is the game they used to play all the time.

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Speaker 1: They would they did flatly unconstitutional things when it came

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Speaker 1: to firearms, and then the moment somebody brought legislation, they

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Speaker 1: would change it. And then they would do something else

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Speaker 1: flatly on conf you know, five hundred dollars fee to

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Speaker 1: system in bad faith to do things that they knew

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Speaker 1: were unconstitutional, and instead of actually find and allowing the

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Speaker 1: system to then say no, you're disrespecting the rights, the

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Speaker 1: two way rights of people in New York City, they

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Speaker 1: would pull and then it's moot. And they would argue

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Speaker 1: it's moot. That's what this transathlete in Idaho is trying

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Speaker 1: to do. And this uh, thank Heavens's Trump appoint has

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Speaker 1: said no, no, no, you brought it. Now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: finish it. We're gonna do We're gonna see where this

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Speaker 1: actually goes. Yeah, and it's not going to go a

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Speaker 1: good place for all these people. But I mean, this

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Speaker 1: woman is trying to become the Democrat nominee for California,

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Speaker 1: and her argument is, we don't really know whether men

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Speaker 1: are faster than women or not. To put this into

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Speaker 1: context for you, buck, every single state high school champion

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Speaker 1: in Texas last year for track and field, every single

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Speaker 1: boy these are you know, eighteen and younger boys, fifteen

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Speaker 1: to eighteen year old boys. Every single Texas state champion

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Speaker 1: ran faster speeds than the fastest women in the history

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Speaker 1: of the Olympics. So we're not even talking about I

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Speaker 1: think Florence Griffith's Joiner Flow Joe is still the fastest

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Speaker 1: woman of all time. Every Texas high school state champion

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Speaker 1: at all district levels smoked flow Joe. So we're not

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Speaker 1: even talking about men versus women on the best men

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Speaker 1: in the world. We're talking about the state of Texas

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Speaker 1: by itself. Every boy state champion is faster than the

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. We will be chatting, I believe, shortly

880
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: with Steve Hilton about California. You know what, Actually I

881
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: want to pull this from yesterday, guys, grab yesterday because

882
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: I feel.

883
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 13: Like Gavin Newsom is out there working on his stump speech.

884
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 13: He's getting a little breathier, he's button in that shirt

885
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 13: a little lower, just slicking back that hair just a little tighter,

886
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 13: and he's ready to look at all the folks of

887
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 13: America and just tell them that.

888
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: Damn, he's so handsome.

889
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 10: You know.

890
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I really think that Gavin Newsom is thinking

891
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: that it's it's his nomination to lose at this point

892
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: of the Democrat side. I don't think that he is

893
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: silly or foolish in that assessment. I think we've both

894
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: said that we think it'll be Gavin Newsom with AOC

895
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: as the VP.

896
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: If we nail that.

897
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: One so far in advance, that'd be a pretty impressive call.

898
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: But we're riding on the same train on that one.

899
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: I think that's probably what It's always tough to pick

900
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: these things so far and out, so far in advance.

901
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: Whoever would have thought, for example, that Joe Biden would

902
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: even be the nominee in twenty I truly clay. I

903
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: went on a whole rant on radio when the Democrat

904
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: primary was happening, and I just said, we know it

905
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: can't be Biden. The guy's got dementia. Well, it turns

906
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: out people didn't care that much.

907
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: Not only that, you hit on something that I think

908
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: is one reason it's hard to predict the outcome, and

909
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: it didn't get a lot of attention because he ended

910
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: up not being challenged in a significant way for the nomination.

911
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Biden flipped the order of the states when it came

912
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: to the Democrat primary contest so that South Carolina was

913
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: first because he knew James Clyburn and black voters were

914
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 2: going to have his back. And that would forestall any

915
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: significant challenge against him. Because Biden never did well in

916
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: Iowa or New Hampshire. What is going to be the

917
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: first state going forward. I think that is a real

918
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: part of trying to horse race and handicap the likelihood

919
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: of what is going on. And I think it's one

920
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: reason why it's challenging to have a exact reason here.

921
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: We've got Steve Hilton, by the way, I think now, Steve,

922
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the clip yet of

923
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: the crazy Democrat nominee, one of the people running for it,

924
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: saying that she doesn't know whether a woman could beat

925
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Usain Bolt in one hundred meters. But I thought it

926
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: was a perfect distillation of where the California Democrat primary is.

927
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Speaker 3: They're just bonkers.

928
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Speaker 7: I'm so excited to talk to you about this today

929
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 7: because I was actually on that interview with Piers Morgan

930
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 7: was following her up, and originally I think they set

931
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 7: it up as a debate, and she didn't want to

932
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 7: do a debate, so I was just patiently waiting and

933
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 7: as she was speaking, I saw myself on the little

934
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 7: video green room. Wait. My jaw was dropping, and I

935
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 7: kept thinking she's not going to say that, like, surely

936
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 7: she No way, she's going to say gender neutral Olympics.

937
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 7: No way, she's going to say track and field. When

938
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 7: peers asked her, what's sports biological men could compete with,

939
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 7: and every time you thought, no way, she's not going

940
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 7: to say something so crazy, she said it. It's just incredible.

941
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 7: But exactly as you say, this is where they're at.

942
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 7: These California Democrats insane, the far left still in control.

943
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 7: People are sick of it here and that's why I'm

944
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 7: running for governor because we've got to have chage. We

945
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 7: can't go on like this with these lunatics in charge

946
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 7: of our beautiful state.

947
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Speaker 1: What do you say, Steve, that's buck thanks for being

948
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: here with us. To whether it's Gavinussum or other Democrats

949
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: out there, they really seem to have taken this point

950
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: of view that California is actually doing great and that

951
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: it's awesome, and that they're kicking ass and their governance

952
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: is amazing. Like they're not trying to excuse or explain

953
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: any of the shortcomings. They just say that it's been fabulous.

954
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Gavin Newsom instead of even feeling like he

955
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: has to defend anything he just is basically saying California

956
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: is number one in all these different things and leaves

957
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: it at that.

958
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, listen, this is what ties together the Betty

959
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 7: Ye interview, the other car crash interview we saw with

960
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 7: Katie Porter and Gavin Newsom, all of them. This is

961
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 7: what you get. This is the attitude you get after

962
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 7: fifteen years of one party rule. This total arrogance, entitlement,

963
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: contempt for the truth, for the reality of people's lives.

964
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 7: And they just think they can get away with it

965
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 7: because for so long they've had appliant media in California.

966
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 7: They're not used to being asked these kinds of questions,

967
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 7: and they're not used to being held accountable by a

968
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 7: strong opposition party. And that's why I'm really confident when

969
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 7: they face a candidate like me who's just not going

970
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 7: to let them get away with it, it's going to

971
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 7: be a very different story next year in the election.

972
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 7: Just specifically on the Gavin Newsome bs that he spews

973
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 7: about all of this, I mean, his favorite statistic, he's

974
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 7: got to have to slightly adjust it a little bit.

975
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 7: He's been saying for a while. Oh, it's everything's great,

976
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 7: because we have the fourth largest economy in the world.

977
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 7: That was true, by the way, until yesterday we dropped

978
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 7: down to fifth. But still that's good. But beneath that,

979
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 7: you've got a story of California as a state now

980
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 7: where the rich get richer and the people who own

981
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 7: these giant AI and tech companies are doing well. That's

982
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 7: the reason we have such a big economy. But at

983
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 7: the same time, we have the highest unemployment rate in

984
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 7: all of America, the worst in all fifty six. Same

985
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 7: with poverty. We have the highest poverty rate. And if

986
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 7: you look carefully at what he says, he's always talking

987
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 7: about the size of things. You know, we're the biggest

988
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 7: for this, and we're the largest for that. But actually

989
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 7: that's going to be true for almost anything because we're

990
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 7: the biggest state with the largest population. But if you

991
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 7: talk about the actual performance on any metric, we are

992
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 7: not just doing badly. We're doing the worst of all

993
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 7: fifty states, the worst reading scores for kids in public schools,

994
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 7: the worst, the highest taxes, the highest cost for housing, gas, electricity,

995
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 7: water ensure, everything, the worst business climate ten years in

996
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 7: a row. There's literally nothing they can point to is

997
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 7: a success. And so they've got to do these kind

998
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 7: of ridiculous, statistical nonsense. But everyone can see, everyone can

999
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 7: steal it. That's why you've got a large majority now

1000
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 7: in California. You say it's time for change, and that's

1001
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 7: why I'm confident I'm going to win next year.

1002
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: We're talking to Steve Hilton. I want to go to

1003
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: the arson that we found out actually cause the LA fires.

1004
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: We hear from a lot of people out there. Adam

1005
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: Carolla was on with us recently. He has a house

1006
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: in one of the communities that was drastically impacted. I

1007
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: see these stories and I hear from people they still

1008
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: can't get rebuilt. What are you seeing and hearing from

1009
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: the people of Los Angeles responding to that wildfire crisis.

1010
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: A lot of the media, the drive by media, as

1011
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Rush called them, have left and they're not covering the

1012
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: failure of LA to be rebuilt. What do you see

1013
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 2: and hear on the ground there in the aftermath of those.

1014
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 7: Fires, Well, it's a total disaster. That is a completely

1015
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 7: perfect illustration of how they're running the state. So you

1016
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 7: look at the just on the numbers. I looked them

1017
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 7: up the other.

1018
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 3: Day just to get the latest.

1019
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 7: The Malibu is the most egregious in Malibu, six hundred

1020
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 7: homes destroyed. The total number of permits issued for rebuilding

1021
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 7: two literally two. If you look across the various burned

1022
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 7: neighborhood after Dina Pacific Palisades, it's under ten percent. And

1023
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 7: the reason is that they are. It's this terrible combination

1024
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 7: which is what's destroying California, of far left ideology and

1025
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: incompetent governance and both of those two things working together.

1026
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 7: So the ideology comes in when they are now pushing

1027
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 7: this idea that the single family home, that the foundation

1028
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 7: of the California dream is some evil thing that needs

1029
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 7: to be fought back and everyone needs to be living

1030
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 7: in apartments with no parking and taking transit in the

1031
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 7: name of climate change. I mean, do they live like that?

1032
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 7: The people who push this newsom Does he live in

1033
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 7: an apartment? Does Nancy Pelosi get her Francisco on transit?

1034
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 7: Of course not. It's total elitism, and that's the ideology.

1035
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 7: So they want people to move out so they can

1036
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 7: build apartments in line with their ideology of what they

1037
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 7: call density. But the second point is just the sharing competence,

1038
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 7: where months ago said she is streamlining permitting and whatever.

1039
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 7: None of that's happened. And I talk to people who

1040
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 7: literally they go to the building department every day. There's

1041
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 7: a different person, there's a different rule. Nothing's been streamlined,

1042
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 7: nothing's been simplified. They can't get insurance. The insurance people say, well,

1043
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 7: we can't give you insurance. Do you get a permit.

1044
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 7: The permit people say, you can't get a permit until

1045
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 7: you get the insurance. It's just a nightmare for people.

1046
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 7: No one's gripping it. No one's in charge, whether that's

1047
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 7: Newsome or Carabath locally or Newsom at.

1048
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 3: The state level.

1049
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 7: And it's just a perfect illustration of everything that's gone

1050
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 7: wrong in California.

1051
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, I have to tell you, Steve, there's somebody out

1052
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: there with windswept hair and a shirt button down to

1053
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: his navel who disagrees with you. We want to let

1054
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: you react. Here is Gavin Newsom, his version of California.

1055
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: You play thirty three.

1056
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 14: I think there's a California arrangement syndrome, and he's part

1057
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 14: of it. I mean, I think people are obsessed with

1058
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 14: focusing on what's wrong with the state and not what's

1059
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 14: right with the state. I mean, you have more scientists engineers,

1060
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 14: more researchers, more Nobel laureates in the state than any

1061
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 14: other state in the nation. We're the fourth largest economy

1062
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 14: in the world four point one trillion dollars, with the

1063
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 14: finest system of higher education that addresses the issue of

1064
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 14: equity better than any other public education system in the world.

1065
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 14: We dominate in every category, name it with the biggest

1066
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 14: manufacturing state, the biggest farming state, in every key category.

1067
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 14: The quality of life here consistently, and you look at

1068
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 14: the top ten cities in the United States of America,

1069
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 14: consistently the top five are identified in the state of California.

1070
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: All Right, so obviously preparing I know, I'm going to

1071
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: give you the floor. He's preparing his stuff speech there.

1072
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: And I also feel like a lot of this is well,

1073
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: you're also by far the biggest state, Gavin, But go ahead, Steve.

1074
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 7: Oh. I wish I was able to have a debate

1075
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 7: with him. I wish he was running again so I

1076
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 7: could just go for it. First of all, it's exactly

1077
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 7: what I said. He just says, were the biggest, the largest. Yes,

1078
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 7: we have the largest egg industry, but it's being crushed

1079
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 7: by their policies. By Gavin Newsom's policies. We should be

1080
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 7: expanding our farming industry. Instead, it's being destroyed because he

1081
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 7: refuses to give them water because of their climate agenda,

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Speaker 7: their labor regulations makes it more and more expensive. Look

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Speaker 7: at manufacturing, Yes, which is the largest because we're the

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Speaker 7: largest pretty much in everything, because we're the biggest state

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Speaker 7: with the largest population. What's actually happening with manufacturing. You

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Speaker 7: take Nvidia, the world's most valuable company, just announced with

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Speaker 7: President Trump a few months ago a half trillion dollars

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Speaker 7: of investment in America. None of it in California. It's

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Speaker 7: in Texas, it's in Arizona, because those are places where

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Speaker 7: you can actually build things without years of bureaucratic delay

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Speaker 7: in massive taxes. Everything he says is a lie because

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Speaker 7: it doesn't reflect the truth about what it's like here,

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Speaker 7: which is that we are, on every metric that matters,

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Speaker 7: the worst performing state in America, and that's the direct

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Speaker 7: result of his policies and his incompetence.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Katie Porter. We played the audio it went Megavirals.

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Speaker 2: She was at the time the favorite to be the

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Speaker 2: nominee for California Democrats next year. What was your thought

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Speaker 2: when you saw it, did it surprise you? What does

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Speaker 2: it say about Katie Porter and California Democrats?

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Speaker 7: It did a little bit, because I've met her a

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Speaker 7: few times. Most of the polls show that, I mean,

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Speaker 7: we have this top two system in California where you

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Speaker 7: don't have a Republican and a Democrat primary. Everyone's on

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Speaker 7: the same ballot and the top two go through to

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Speaker 7: the general election. And the last few months, I mean

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Speaker 7: the polls, it's pretty early. There's a large number of

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Speaker 7: don't know, so I'm not too kind of focused on

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Speaker 7: on this, but they've pretty consistently showed that the top

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Speaker 7: two is Katie Porter and me and so in once

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Speaker 7: I've been paying attention to her. We see each other

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Speaker 7: every now and again at these standardate forums, not a

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Speaker 7: real debate, but you know, she's the ineptness on display there.

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Speaker 7: The fact that you just couldn't answer a basic question

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Speaker 7: and completely lost it was really surprising to me. But again,

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Speaker 7: what's interesting is that the machine doesn't care. The Democrat machine,

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Speaker 7: this arrogant, entitled a bunch of people who think that

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Speaker 7: they've got they've got the right to rule forever in California.

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Speaker 7: How dare you ask me questions, how dare anyone think

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Speaker 7: that they're going to interrupt our control of this state?

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Speaker 7: Right back in behind her, you had unions coming out

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Speaker 7: with statements saying, yes, we're we're for Katie Porter. Still

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Speaker 7: we need we don't want someone polite, we need someone

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Speaker 7: who's going to fight all this nonsense. The real interesting question, though,

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Speaker 7: is that the Democrat machine in California overall, it's still

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Speaker 7: run by Nancy Pelosi, who can't stand Katie Porter. And

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Speaker 7: so even before this meltdown, the rumor mill here was

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Speaker 7: saying that they are looking for another candidate because they

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Speaker 7: don't want Katie Porter, because they don't control her actually,

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Speaker 7: and so right now the speculation is that they are

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Speaker 7: trying to recruit Alex Padia. He's the US senator who

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Speaker 7: made a fool of himself barging into Christine Nomes press conference.

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Speaker 7: He's the guy that they want, and I'd say bring

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Speaker 7: it on, because he's just another completely a complete mediocrity,

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Speaker 7: another machine politician who'll just spout the party line controlled

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Speaker 7: by the unions and cannot possibly represent the change that

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Speaker 7: we need in California.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, If people like what they're hearing here, how

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Speaker 2: can they find out, how can they get involved?

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Speaker 7: Thank you, man, I appreciate that. Steve hiltonfogovernor dot com

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Speaker 7: f R. Look, we got to it's not just a

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Speaker 7: California wherever you're listening in the country. Right back to

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Speaker 7: where we started with the trans athletes and biological men

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Speaker 7: and girl sports that all started here in California. They

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Speaker 7: passed that law on twenty thirteen. As governor, I would

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Speaker 7: overturn it. But it's a good example of how so

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Speaker 7: many of the crazy far left insanity that's been inflicted

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Speaker 7: on the rest of the country, it starts in California.

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Speaker 7: So help me beat it here. Steve hiltonfogovernor dot com.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Steve, we'll talk to you again. Keep up

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Speaker 2: the good fights. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: Fantastic see thing cheers.

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