1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, this is media Match, 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: your host new E scrugs media mass. Let's ride a 6 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: whole lot of topics to get too with John A 7 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: Shower of the athletic Patrick Walker, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 8 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: You got Clarence held the Fort Worth Star Telegram. I'm new, 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: he scrugs, and let's die right in two. My favorite 10 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: trade that the Cowboys made for receiver Brandon Cooks. I'm 11 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: not gonna mention the name that a whole lot of 12 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: other people wanted out there, good player, but Cooks was 13 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: a guy that Cowboys had had tried to get out 14 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: of Houston. Didn't do it. They wanted a third now 15 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: you get you know how you get it for five 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: to six and he was just gonna pay six million dollars, 17 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: so twelve million dollar contract for a guy that could 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: take the receiver off the top. John go, yeah, I was. 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a great move, don't get 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: me wrong, especially for what they gave up a fifth 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: and six. I mean, what are you losing there, Bradley 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and I I mean, so that's one thing. The other 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: part of it, as funny as you guys know, being 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: on being on Twitter, how they make the move, they 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: make the Stephan Gilmore move in which I'm sure we'll 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: talk about, and people still find ways to be like, oh, 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: can they still we'll get this guy? Can they still 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: get can they still make with that guy? It's like, 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: have you been following this franchise in this time of year? 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's basically been very neutral, like the car 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: is in neutral this time of year. To be making 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: these moves early on, I don't I don't care if 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: you think Brandon Cooks is the best receiver in the 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: league or you think he's a Pro Bowl or not. 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: What he can bring to this offense is some juice. 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just Brandon Cooks last year on this team, 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: that might have been the difference of them going to 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And so you might not think the 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: other one about Brandon Cooks I love too, is pe like, oh, 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: he's already been traded four times and he's had a 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons with all four different teams. I mean, 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: and here's everything. He's getting traded because he has value. 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: If he was if he was just an Okay receiver's 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Noll receiver, they do this thing called let you go, 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, So I mean the idea that like I 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: don't know, and he went to back to back Super 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Bowls and played at a high level on both of 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: those teams. I will say. The one thing real quick 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to add is it is interesting his size 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: wise doesn't really match up with what maybe Mike McCarthy's 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: had in the past. You know, outside of Randall Cobb, 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: he's generally had the bigger six one, six two and 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: bigger receivers. But obviously he's speedies. So yeah, I was 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: going to say, speed allows coaches and scouts to forgive 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: a couple inches on that hight. And what Brandon Cooks 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: has his speed just pouring out of his cook if 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: first of all, it's finesse by the Cowboys front office, 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: patience is in fact virtue sometimes and there were reports 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: that the Texans back in October were leaning on a 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: third but there they were asking for it as high 61 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: as a second. Cowboys said, you know what, we're good 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: on that we'll take our chances with the public courtship 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: of OBJ. Ultimately, that landed t Y Hilton, who was productive, 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: could have been more productive. But you circle back to 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and you get him for a fifth round 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: pick this year and a sixth round pick next year. 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: That's an absolute steal for a guy who has six 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: one thousand yard receiving seasons and nine But even more 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: impressive than that, it's who he's done it with. We 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: understand he had time with Breeze, he had time with Brady, 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: but more recently he had time with Tyrod Taylor, Davis 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Mills and just that carousel of bad quarterback play in Houston, 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: and he was still able to produce. And he's being 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: dropped into a Cowboys offense that's not asking him to 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: be the number one guy. And if Michael Gallup can 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: get back to health, then maybe not necessarily the number two. 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he's a two A or two B. So point being, 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: you have a proven commodity who's younger than O B J, 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: who is not coming off of a single it torn 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: acl let alone two torn acls, and it didn't cost 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you a premium pick. You still have after they gil 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Moore picking after this cook's pick, you have a pick 83 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: in every single one of the seven rounds still to 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: be made. To jump in, trying to decide my super 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: Bowl ring, trying to see, well, we gotta get your 86 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: gas money first. Yeah, no Superwoman gas bowls. Well, no, 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I like to move. I mean it's the best trade 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: receiver cops vast sins the receiver trade. I mean, good disgraces. 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Cop boys do a trade for rose receivers, don't they. 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: But no, no, laugh, no, no, I mean, I like 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: we knew where you're going with I like giving up 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: a one for Mark Cooper. The people have spoken on 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: your Twitter. The people have spoken, right, they're still man. 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: But no, seriously, this is this, This was a good 95 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: deal and like you said, it's a good fit. You know, 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: it's a good fit for this offense. Is what they need, 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, just talking, you know, the let's just we 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: can talk about this. Let's kill the Odell Beckham stuff. 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: The Cowboys. It was like Jerry Jones was a party 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of one with the Odell Beckham train. Okay, now he 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: got mentioned and mentioned and mentioned, But as he told 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: us that the combine he is, they have not directly 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: spoken Odell Beckham since the end of the season. The 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: only person he talked to with his mama at the 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: end offl Honors. Okay, so that's not like, oh, we're 106 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: trying to because they could have signed him any time. 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: They could have this direct contact. You know, we're trying 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: how are you doing whatever? They were really interested in him. 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: It's like Jerry loves to push that narrative because it 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: keeps the Cowboys on ESPN. On first take on this beauty, 111 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: people are talking to him almost like, yeah, so do 112 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: you think they were? He was talking about that when 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: he said I don't know where there's twenty millions coming from. 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Buy ain't taking four. When he said that, I was like, oh, 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: where that's coming from. I think the problem is that 116 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: they probably even off from four. I don't think they 117 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: made him an offer. You know, it sounds good because 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: it sounds like the Cowboys like surprised they didn't go 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: to the workout. No. I mean I've talked to people, Yes, 120 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: you were because of all the interests supposed about the 121 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys in him, But talking to outside of Jerry talking 122 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: about everybody else was sold it what the Cowboys, the 123 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: front office, they were, they were not on the Odell 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Beckham bandwagon. They were not on the Odell Beckham train. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: That was Jerry Jones pushing the train by himself. Most 126 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: of the people in the building, they kept talking about it, 127 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: and we you know, I talked to length of different people, 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, at the combine and throughout the season. They 129 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: want a guy who can take the top of the defense. 130 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: That's why they were in on Brandon Cooks during the season, 131 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's why they went a guy got like 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: t t Y Hilton. Is why at the end of 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: the season when they talk about the company and what 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: they were looking for, they were looking for that guys 135 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: the same reason why they were never really in on Hopkins. 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, they weren't looking for you know, listening to 137 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: love Hopkins, love the type of player he is. He 138 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: has been for these more possessioned type receiver. You know, 139 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's take the top off the defense. 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: That's what they wanted. That what they got that was 141 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the perfect compliment for what they have on this receiver 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: recording his offense and it's a huge stealth forward for 143 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So go back to last year the trade deadline, 144 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: when Cooks wasn't dealt He remember those tweets he put 145 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: out that he stayed away from the team, and going 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: back to that, it wasn't just a third round pick. 147 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't like the eighteam meellion as well as 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: so so the so the part in this trade and 149 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: how they got in, which was why it was great 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: because the Texas picked up six millions tail facilitate the trade. Okay, 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, the Cowboys won in terms of the trade value, 152 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: but also one in terms of the cause. Absolutely, and 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: the player wanted to be Yeah. Well, I mean, can 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: you imagine going from you go to the Super Bowl 155 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: with the Patriots, Uh, you go to Super Bowl the Rams, 156 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: and then you go to a team that in three 157 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: years you win eleven games. I mean that's gonna be Now. 158 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I understand why you go there, because they're gonna give 159 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: you the most money, and at the end of the day, 160 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: that's what you want. So I get all of that. 161 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: But that had to be really tough for him to 162 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: go winning consistently to then all of a sudden, because 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: even before that, you're with the Saints and they're good 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: every year. So that's not surprised. I mean, it's fantastic 165 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: across the board for the Cowboys. And then, like Louis said, 166 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: you're getting a player who not only wanted to be 167 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: out of his current situation in Houston, but most certainly 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be with the team that just traded to 169 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: have him. So the guys coming in extra exciting. It's 170 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: that much more excitement from his standpoint as far as 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: joining the team. And and I mean, this isn't Davis Mills, 172 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and this isn't Tyrod Taylor. This is Dak Prescott throwing 173 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you the ball. This is Dak Prescott throwing you the ball. 174 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: With Ceedee Lamb taking attention off of you, Michael Gallop 175 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: taking attention off of you. We'll see what happens with shots. 176 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: But even if not Ferguson taking attention off of you, 177 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard when healthy, taking attention off of you, We'll 178 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: see what they do, you know, at the running back 179 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: position between now and the draft and going forward. But 180 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: another part, yeah, another part, and part of this was 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: that you know Taxon has taken six million of that Yeah, 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: because they give him eighteen million. I don't see where 183 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to handle that. But then there 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: were some people on Twitter saying, well, you know, and 185 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: which goes back to your initial initial point, John, Yeah, 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: it never happened. That's whatever happened. Well, ob J would 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: have taken twelve. Okay, Well, first of all, you're not 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Obj's second of all, Um, even if OBJ takes twelve, 189 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: if I'm facing the situation where I give twelve to 190 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks or I give twelve to OBJ, and this 191 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: twelve to Brandon Cooks only costs me an additional fifth 192 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: round pick, well, the fifth round pick this year and 193 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: a flyer next year, I'm going within the direction the 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: Cowboys went, because yes, ob J looks great in this 195 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: workouts and everything, but he's still over thirty with two 196 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: torn acls, and you don't know what the durability is there. 197 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: You know what the durability is on Brandon Cooks. You 198 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: know he's younger, and you know he can still produce 199 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: at a high level. And two things Odell Becka wants 200 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: in most of year deal yep. This is essentially a 201 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: one year deal yep. You know, and both of them, 202 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: the Gilbo think about it, and then what I like 203 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: about I know we're talking about the receiver, but just 204 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: the moves, these moves are about winning now. Ye because 205 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: the guildmore is a one year deal. They're older players. 206 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: This is about what can we do to win that 207 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: when worried about down the line, when word about we 208 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: worried about winning, and that's what goes back and you 209 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: know I'll go back in the picks. Also, don't hurt 210 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: you down the line. You know you're giving up a 211 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: second or a third. That can't I'm just talking about 212 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: the commitment to the players. It's about what are we 213 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: doing to help win now? This a team is ready 214 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: to win now. It's time to win now. That's essentially 215 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: one year deal. It's essentially the one year deal with 216 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: and as we look forward to draft and people talking 217 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: about do you take a running back, you can't. You 218 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: can't take a running back the first round. That gonna 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: be a ten years. It's about winning now. If you 220 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: take if we get back to taking a running back 221 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: b Jean Robinson in the first round, it's about winning now. 222 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: It's just finesse all around. And even with the sixth 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty four, depending on how the 224 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: formula falls and who the Cowboys acquired versus don't acquire 225 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: in free agency, you might turn around and get a 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: comp for connom or government that completely just wipes out 227 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: that six you gave away to Houston anyway. So it's 228 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: just it's finesse all across. So Cooks is here two 229 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: things and go around the table and start here. Where 230 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: do we see Gallop now in this receiving lineup? And 231 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: then it Shultz done? Is that just a guy they 232 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: let go? He's a free internet for two things? I mean, 233 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean Gallup was at best when he was the 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: third receiver in the offense, you know, And I think 235 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: it's a situation where you go back to what Gallup 236 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: is your a third receiver? You know, but you just 237 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: want you know, and it's really not about where he fits. 238 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: It's about getting him healthy. Can we get Galloped back 239 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: to being the healthy and the player he was two 240 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: years ago before all the injuries. Just just worry about Gallup, 241 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: worried about getting healthy and get back on the field. 242 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: It's all gonna work. And as far as a tight 243 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: end position, I mean, it's funny how things work because 244 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: the reason why everybody was said, well he's gone, because 245 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: he thought he's gonna be priced out. You know, the 246 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: tight end market is gonna be this and he's gonna 247 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: get too much out there on the market that he 248 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: can't come back. Well, he's still out there, and the 249 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: tight end market is down here. It's a situation where 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: you could consider bringing him back. You know. You certainly 251 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: like the young guys, but it's also just a situation 252 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: where this draft is loaded with tight ends at the 253 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: top of the first, second, third round, you know, And 254 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys did a lot of homework on the tight 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: ends at the combine, you know, certainly, so it's wide 256 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: open for the Cowboys as far as the tight end position. 257 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: I certainly see them drafting a tight end. Well, there 258 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: are two reasons that I figured Dalton Shokes was out 259 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: in Dallas, one being what Chill said, and you thought 260 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: that the market would snatch him up pretty quickly. But 261 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: now we're in the second wave of free agency. He's 262 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: still out there, prices coming down, it's just how the 263 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: business goes. But so that didn't happen. But what still 264 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: is true is that if I'm the Cowboys, I'm looking 265 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: at it as Okay, Yeah, you could potentially bring Shokes 266 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: back at a lower price, kind of some veteran stability there, 267 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: or you could go with the less expensive but probably 268 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: more explosive Jake Ferguson, or that combination Jake Ferguson Payton 269 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: hinder Shot, and then circle back in the draft and 270 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: really double down on getting a big name guy. It 271 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: might be someone like a Darnell Washington who's more of 272 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: a blocker book can be explosive at times down the field. 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Or you go to Shoemaker Michigan. I mean, there are 274 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: players out there that the Cowboys have formerly met with 275 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: that we talked to. It the combine that says, hey, 276 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: Dallas is interested in me, So for me, I think 277 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: it's time to go young. There. You have your fourth 278 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: round pick, your formal fourth round pick, and Jake Ferguson, 279 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: you saw what you did in developing Dalton Shows has 280 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick into a starter in this league. 281 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I think from the Cowboys standpoint, that price point for 282 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: Dalton Shokes would have to be so low to bring 283 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: him back that you just can't refuse it. We're just like, Okay, well, 284 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: no harm, no file, Sure, come on back. But even then, 285 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: are we talking progress stopper at that point? Yeah. I 286 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: also find it interesting how much we've talked on this 287 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: show about Yeah, it's gonna be tough to bring back Schultz. 288 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to keep dan Quinn, Cooper Rosch 289 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: after it goes and Wine, it's gonna be tough to 290 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: bring him back. Like and that's not obviously just stots, 291 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: but that's you know, that was very well talked about, 292 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: especially early in the season, So it is interesting how 293 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the stutworks out. Tight end class absolutely factors in with 294 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: that's no question about it. With a Gallop thing, I 295 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: just think he's gonna I think he'll be fine. I 296 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: think he had probably put up a lot of pressure 297 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: on himself that he needed to be better than he 298 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: was last year because and I mean we're not seeing 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: all of practice, but you heard that he was doing 300 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: things in practice that made you think that he was 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: starting to look a little bit more and a little 302 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: bit more like the old Michael gall But that doesn't 303 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: mean that that's going to necessarily happen on something. Now, 304 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: there's also some stuff that I've heard happen in practice 305 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: that maybe we're setbacks too, that maybe got him a 306 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: little scared and things like that. So the further he 307 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: gets away from that injury, the other thing is with 308 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: him is like for example, I was looking at because 309 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I think defensive tackle is a need for this. You know, 310 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna be yeah. I was looking at that 311 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Brian Brace from Clemson, and it's like when you look 312 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: at a guy like that, there's like multiple injuries to 313 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: where you're just like, man, you just never know that. 314 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup does not have an injury history like that 315 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: where it's just well, it's this knee and there was 316 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: this ankle, and it's been this like this is the 317 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: first major injuries had. I think he's gonna be fine, 318 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: especially because it's not like he has to produce like 319 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: a number two. And if he does, great. If he doesn't, 320 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: you have Brandon Cooks. Now. Two things. I always cast 321 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: this stuff about what they say in practice because I 322 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: remember how great Being de Nucci looked in practice. He 323 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: was slaying that thing, saying it. I will say this, 324 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I will say this. Let me just let me just 325 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: add one little journalism. Let me add it one little 326 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: journalism tweak on that there is a difference between someone 327 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: telling you something when you don't ask about it, and 328 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: someone telling you something when you go up to him. 329 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: You're go to your locker and go, hey, MARII Denucci's 330 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: starting this week. How do you think he'll do? Like 331 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna be like real nervous. I don't really like it, 332 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: got real wild and practice throws up all the other 333 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: team a lot like you. I mean there's a difference, 334 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: you know. That's what I'm saying. I just I got 335 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: to get that out there. And Darnell Washington, that dude 336 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: is a freak. That Georgia tight intye that that block 337 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: you see it, and the thing that he brings is 338 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: also which the Cowboys having had the position he getting blocked. 339 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: And not only can he block, he's a bulldozer. He's bulldogs. 340 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: He's bulldos if that can at a time or two 341 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that can get down the field and make those thigh 342 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: point catches. There was some of them boys on that 343 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Georgia team. He's like, you're twenty one, twenty you know 344 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: your student. I mean the biggest they had. Dudes are 345 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: bigger than Cowboys. Mean that tight man. When Alabama's been rolling, 346 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: I always think of Ashan Robinson. You see that guy 347 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: walk out of the tunnel. You're just excuse me? Yeah again, 348 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: speaking of Ashan, I'm gonna jump in, oh, I would 349 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: be in on him. Right now. For sure. He visited 350 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: Jazz today the the uh time when Alabama had come 351 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: and played that college football game, college playoff game and 352 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: uh the Cotton Bowl, and I saw Derek Henry up club. 353 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that was it was that he's running. It was ridiculous. 354 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, your boys like that. It was like you 355 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: look really so yes, um, let's take a break here. 356 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: You got a one on one conversation with step On Gilmore. 357 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Let's dive into that. And I talked to a coach 358 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: on the way here today specifically for this show about 359 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: Beijean Robinson. 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I got John showed up the athletic at 402 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Clarence Hill. Oh the Star Telegram here joining us on 403 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: the show. Um, well, dog team, you just ruined my tease. 404 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: You know, just just I mean, right right man, me 405 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: just just nobody know what that is. No, he don't 406 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: as man. He could have just just happy when he 407 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: doesn't get his gas money. He just gets unruly. Am 408 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: I talking about I'm not. I'm gonna let him finish 409 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: the story. Future future Hall of Fame college football coach 410 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: Gary pat We've spent last season as an consultant with 411 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: the Longhorns. On that team they went to the Alamo Bowl, 412 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: and uh also was the head coach of TCU for 413 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: twenty years. I asked him about be Jean Robinson, the 414 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: running back, and he said, he can catch. He said, 415 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: he said, go back to the bail again. Check out 416 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: the post that he caught there. He's like, he can 417 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: really catch. He said, he's a really really good person. 418 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: He's a good person. Is there. Whoever gets him in 419 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: their community is really going to enjoy having Bejean Robinson there. 420 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: And he said, now he can run the ball. He's like, 421 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, he could take he could take what maybe 422 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: a loss and just you know, go ahead and you know, 423 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: make positive yards. And said, give me, give me a 424 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: guy that you either cover that you you know as 425 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: a coach, you coached against or you played with. You know, 426 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: give me a guy, he said, lt He said, may 427 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: not be fair to him, but he said that kind 428 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: of difference making guy. He talked about, you he's a 429 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: difference maker that you bring in a guy like that. 430 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I don't have to have 431 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot of other folks right because he's gonna 432 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and make up things. Now. I hear the 433 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: people out there who say you don't take a running 434 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: back in the first round, But I also think these 435 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: are the same people who moaned and grown when Michael 436 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: Parsons was taking because they're like, oh, you don't take 437 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: a lineback or that high. But then what'd you find out? 438 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Michael is a weapon and weapons make up for a 439 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And from talking to people like Gary 440 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Patterson defensive guy, he says, Bjean Robinson weapon you could 441 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: do a lot of things with. So, John, your thoughts 442 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: on Bijean Robinson and the Cowboys that have the twenty 443 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: six overall pick in the draft. I mean, if he's there, 444 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: he makes a ton of sense. You know. That's the thing. 445 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: Like we were saying before the break, like defensive tackle, 446 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: major need, Like you shouldn't reach for a defensive tackle 447 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: if they're not worthy of that spot because that's your 448 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: biggest need. Go get Bijean Robinson. Then if he can 449 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: make that type of an impact immediately, which he should 450 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: be able to. That's the one thing about running back. 451 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: If you're a really good running back, you usually if 452 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: you're a really good high school running back, you usually 453 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: can play as a true freshman. If you're really good 454 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: college running back usually can make an impact pretty pretty quickly. 455 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: It's not like they're gonna have to sit there and 456 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: like slowly. But bring him along and to add him 457 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: to what this offense is has added this offseason and 458 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: obviously moving on from Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, Bjean Robinson's there, 459 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: I think that would be a great pick. Right before 460 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: get to Patrick, Gary Passon also told me that b 461 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Sean is very good at passpor because he's smart. Well, 462 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: one thing I was gonna say, three years from now, 463 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: if he wants to hold down and go to Cabo, 464 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: let him hold out and go to Cabo, though I 465 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: will say that rules changed, the rules changed. Since rules changed, 466 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: you can't do that. Well, we're not gonna honor it 467 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: even if again. But my mind is short and sweet 468 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: because he's not going to be there at twenty six. Um. 469 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: I have him going into top ten and if he 470 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: falls out of the top fifteen, my jaw will hit 471 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: the floor and roll onto the front porch. Um. But 472 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: if he's there now, now that you have addressed CB 473 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: two in trading for Gilmore, now that you've addressed w 474 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: R two and adding Brandon Cooks, now I'm fine with 475 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: taking Bejan Robinson at twenty six. If he were to 476 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: be there prior to those things, I would. I love 477 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: the subscription of teams. When it comes to BPA balancing 478 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: with NEED. I don't want you to go full NEED 479 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: because I think you're going to handicap yourself. But I 480 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: think that if you go full BPA, you'll have a 481 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: bunch of talent with no real function to it. Right, 482 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: So I feel like there needs to be a balanced there. 483 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: And Will McClay operates that way as well, which pleases 484 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: me greatly. But now that you have addressed those two 485 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: of the bigger needs going into the draft, now you 486 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: don't need necessarily to address them in the draft with 487 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: premium picks. So if Bejan is there twenty six, now 488 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Prior to those two trades though 489 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: I would not have been. But again, he's not making 490 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: out all the top fifteen Longhorn Alum, I mean, it's 491 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: no brighter I mean, if he's there. I mean, and 492 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: that's the thing is I don't think he'll be there. 493 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't think he'll be there. Most people don't. Again, 494 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: you know, most people have him the top five talent. 495 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Some people have the top three talent overall the entire 496 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: draft half. And if you have a top three talent, 497 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: top five talent in the draft, who's at twenty six, 498 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: it should be a no brainer. This kills me. And 499 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about philosophically that these people are out 500 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: there saying, you know, you know, you can't take a 501 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: running back in the first round because of the devaluation 502 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: of the running back position, because he's not gonna be 503 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: a ten year player. As John said, it's not about 504 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, it's about winning. Now. If you 505 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: get that special player, I think he'll be a better 506 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: ProTem wasn't college kind of like Michael because I don't. 507 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: I don't think we saw everything he could do, especially 508 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: in the past the game in college, Like there's this 509 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: pros you don't take off the ball linebacker that high. 510 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: You know, well, if people redraft now, Michael Parks is 511 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be there when the Cowboys pick, you're gonna 512 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: be much higher because people don't two teams in the 513 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about that, you know he's a 514 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: special player, special talent. You don't pass on that. He's 515 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: that type of player, that type of talent. But again, 516 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: whether it's Robertson, they need to address the running back position. 517 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: I think the drafts running back position in the first 518 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: three rounds if not our one. But yeah, there's no 519 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: no brighter on b John Robinson and he's there. Now 520 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: that Ezekiel Eliot's gone, there's a Twitter media debate that, 521 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: you know what, Jalen Ramsey should have been the guy 522 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: the whole time, and there's a whole lot of people 523 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: now who claim they were Jalen Ramsey people. I don't 524 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: think he had an interception his last year at Florida State. 525 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't he wasn't good, but just you know, people weren't 526 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: throwing at him. So I look at Ezekiel Elliot's career. 527 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I think he had a good career here. Very I 528 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: love Jalen Ramsey, but I don't have any issue at 529 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: the pick. I wouldn't have had an issue with Jalen 530 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: Ramsey be in the pick. I get that, But also 531 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: again I'm a huge Jalen Ramsey fan. But also do 532 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you know that he's still here, you know, into a 533 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: second contract. He likes to move around a lot too, 534 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: you know. So well, the bigger thing is this, the 535 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: cop was not thirteen and three in twenty sixteen. If 536 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: Dalen Ramsey is here, No, they're not thirteen and three. 537 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Zeke was so much important to that office, das, all 538 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: of them, rookie quarter, all of those stuff. They're not 539 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: thirteen to three. We're you know, but you do know 540 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: what people what he's talking about, though, Oh I know 541 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: what people are talking about. It It's not it's not, oh, 542 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: we take Jalen Ramsey and it's nothing else. It's because 543 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: the cards have been laid out, so you go, oh, 544 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: we're taking they should have taken Jalen Ramsey there, and 545 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: then with your second pick you take Derek Henry. That's 546 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: what people argue. And so if you're taking Derek Henry, 547 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: there's Bill probably winning thirteen games that year if you 548 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: take Derek Henry. But we don't know what we don't. 549 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: We don't. But I'm saying that he brought up he's 550 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: brought up what they said on Twitter. I'm not saying 551 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: that's what people say. You've seen that right, absolutely, And yeah, 552 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: my receipts are out there pre draft for twenty sixteen. 553 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: I was the big I mean, Jalen Ramsey was my 554 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: pit kit that particularly year. I was standing on the table. 555 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: Go get this guggle, get this guggle, get this guy. 556 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: He get Zeke. Okay, let's see what Zeke can do. 557 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: Here we are seven years later and Zeke is third 558 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: all time Russian in the franchise and probably eventually going 559 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: to be in the Ring of Honor. And to John's point, 560 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: which is an excellent point, you've seen what happens when 561 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey doesn't like how contracting to go shations would go. Well, 562 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: let me tell you something about negotiating contracts with the 563 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Um, they don't always go as as well 564 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: as you would like. You know, there's a lot of 565 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: pulling gives and not a lot of give, a lot 566 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: of pull. Um. So how do you know that Jayla 567 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Ramsey doesn't pull with the Cowboys? That what he pulled 568 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville to get out of Jacksonville to land in 569 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: La in the first place. So do you only have 570 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey for his rookie contract and then he's out, 571 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: and then at that point it's have you done anything 572 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: you know substantive in that rookie contract. I think that 573 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott was much more meaningful for this franchise than 574 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: Jala Ramsey would have been. And this is coming from 575 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: someone who would have wanted Jayla Ramsey on arn the 576 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: contract thing though, I think that if Dylan Ramsey is 577 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: here and he who he was, they would have took 578 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: care of Jared Ramsy'd like took care of Zeke and Dad. 579 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, you know, Jerry gonna take care of his 580 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: premium guys. I'll pro guys. You know that maybe some 581 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: other people that don't get taken here Byron Jones feel 582 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: about that coming. He's done in the same class. He's 583 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: definitely not the same class at the time that Jalen 584 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: ram sees contract with Byron Jones has never been in 585 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: the same Here's what I'm saying, though, positionally speaking at 586 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: the time the contract would have come due or time 587 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: for the second contract to be negotiated. This is pre McCarthy, 588 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: this is pre Dan quinn. Okay, positional value was lacking 589 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: at safety, was laking at cornerback, Okay, positional value was 590 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: high at quarterback, highat running back, so it's easier for 591 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: those two. And I say easy loosely because it still 592 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: took a Cobbo trip for Zeke to get where he got. 593 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: But from a cornerback position pre McCarthy, pre quinn. And 594 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: we'll see how it works out with Tribling Diggs. The 595 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't necessarily been all in on throwing a bag 596 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: at cornerback, not the cornerback. But the thing about Jerry 597 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: is not position, it's the player. It's about a special player. 598 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I picked him fourth overall, he became a pro bowled player. 599 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I love him. I'll say I don't even know I'm 600 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: taking care of him. I even I don't know about 601 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: all that even with now that's a big part of it. 602 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: But if the first part is what's right the special player? 603 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: If he thought Byron Jones was real special, but that 604 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: is like you just put him over on an island. 605 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: He shuts down every single player. But he's the best 606 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: corner in the league. Uh, then yeah they're not. They were. 607 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. Seriously, Now, I'm glad you 608 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: bring this up because I feel the exact same way 609 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: about just not a take away machine. But he was 610 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: shut down. No, he was not shut down. I feel this. 611 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Byron Jones as as 612 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: I feel about Dalton Schultz. They're good players. You'd love 613 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: to keep him on the team, but you're not gonna 614 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: pay big money for them. Team did not not throw 615 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball on Byron Jones. You can put number thought 616 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: you want to know. They didn't. They did throw away 617 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: that now they do it, cheo. They didn't throw away 618 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: from him. They didn't throw it away from him because 619 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: they were scared of because you're scared they're gonna make 620 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: a play on you. You didn't realize there's he was 621 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: not catching nothing. Okay, tell me to big it did? 622 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: I just show me the pig. That's a huge part 623 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: he's making. I'm that literally just he did say that. 624 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: He didn't. I literally just said he doesn't. That's why 625 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: you pass shut down. That's why nobody to find shut 626 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: anybody nobody scared. Wasn't. He wasn't. Abody scared of him. 627 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: He was not an elite corner. But really I don't 628 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: what would have what would have made Byron Jones elite 629 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: is if he would have been able to combine the 630 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: takeaways with his ability to kill. If that's the case, 631 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: then he's still Dallas cop. Well, he has an injury, 632 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. I'm not going to see it 633 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: argue that he didn't take the ball away when I 634 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: just said that he wouldn't take the ball. Nobody's scared 635 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: of him. No, When I think it's shut down Corn, 636 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about somebody who respect to Byron him. It's 637 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: not fact facts. I agree. 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So 689 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: IFU to approval restrictions apply, this is not a commitment 690 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: to lend back to Mediamash Mediamash Where you come to 691 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: get the inside information from Clarence Hill The Star Telegram, 692 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Walker, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. John Chody Athletic. I'm 693 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: merely knew he scrugs just a part of this. Happy 694 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: to go along for the ride, mister Walker, Dallas Cowboys 695 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. We can go and check out your interview 696 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: with Stephon Gilmore and nobody else sat an opportunity yet 697 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: to really sit down one on one the audio call, 698 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: but you got to get base. Yeah, go ahead, break 699 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: it down. Well, what I loved more than anything about 700 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: Stefan get Moore is the fact that he's not only 701 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: ready to mentor some of these younger guys like de 702 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: Ron Bland and Trevon Diggs and and get these guys 703 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: to understand what it takes to get to the next level, 704 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: that super Bowl level, he's also willing to come in 705 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: and be open and learned that. He said he's willing 706 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: to learn from Trevon Diggs because he understands and the 707 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: humility is there. He understands that while he's an accomplished guy, 708 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: he still has more he wants to accomplish, and he 709 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: doesn't know everything, and you have to love a person 710 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: like that. But also the fact that he says he's 711 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: been a Cowboys fan all his life. And I know 712 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: you can take that with a grain of salt because 713 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: a lot of players have been Cowboys fans all their life. 714 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: But to the point where he actually sent his uncle 715 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: a text and his family and Texans, Hey, I got 716 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: a big surprise for you. That goes back to similar 717 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: to what Brandon Cooks was saying. As far as Brandon 718 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: Cooks wanting to be here in Dallas, this is a 719 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: guy in Stefan Gilmore who actually wants to be here 720 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: in Dallas, and now you're dropping him into a defense 721 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: that has resecured Donovan Wilson, which we talked about on 722 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: the previous media match. That was my guy. Knew it. 723 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: I said, that was my guy you had to get 724 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: in free agency. That was my guy. They went and 725 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: got him. So you still got your three headed monster 726 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: at safety. You got Stephane Gilmore, Diggs, Ron Bland, Jourdan Lewis, 727 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: coming back from injury. I mean, Diggs is excited, he 728 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: wants to be here. He's ready to get the work. 729 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: The humility is there, the mentorship is ready to be unleashed. Yeah, Gilmore, 730 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I mean, and I even kind of jokingly asked him 731 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: if there will be a takeaway competition between him and 732 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Diggs and Bland because those are other guys who love 733 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: to take him with the ball. And he was like, yeah, 734 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about, absolutely friendly competition, getting it 735 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: done so for a team that it does so well, 736 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: and takeaways got another guy here to kind of push 737 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: that envelope. There you go, all right, choda um, How 738 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: does you don't know how many times you're gonna do 739 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: shows like this and no one's gonna slip up and 740 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: call him Stefan Diggs. Oh, but having Trey Von Diggs 741 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore, Like there's been multiple times I've been writing it. 742 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm in like, wait a second, hold on, It's already 743 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: bad enough with Tyron Smith and Tyler Smith, Like, well, 744 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: people want to Stefan Diggs. You got it in a 745 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: roundabout way. I meant Digs in the second. That's what 746 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got it und you know, there'sh Let's 747 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: be honest. Now, where does this put the Cowboys? Second, 748 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Let's put their their cornerback crew over Miami? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, 749 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: because I'm thinking of it in this way. No, what 750 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about? Come on, Miami, stop it. And I'm 751 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: swaying and Gilmore still give me already, give me Miamis, 752 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: give me Miamis. Okay, you know, but but I mean, 753 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: but but it puts him up there and and and 754 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: and you in the safety group that they have. And 755 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: let's put the secondary. What is the now? Now, what 756 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: is the secondary? Secondary? Excuse as a whole? You know, 757 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: put these Cowboys and I'd say as good as any 758 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: in the league. And that's a good start. I think 759 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: that's what when you say I'm thinking secondary, So yeah, 760 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: secondary as a whole. With Gilmour and it it's just 761 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: it's nasty and Filly your Dallas right now, secondary Philly. 762 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm not Philly a Dallas because Philly is bleeding. I mean, 763 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: they got they retained Bradberry, they were able to keep slave, 764 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: but you lose Garden. Johnson led the league interceptions that safety, 765 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: and it took a massive step back. Cowboys are taking 766 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: steps forward. Yeah, I still have the draft and still 767 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: that's fair. But as we have this conversation, Philly took 768 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: a huge step back, Cowboys were taking huge steps forward. Child. 769 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about how I'm so pleased that they've 770 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: made these moves selfishly for us smile because of the 771 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: fact that I was tired of governing this team being 772 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: in neutral this time of year, and I was thinking, 773 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: how they really going to run it back with mostly 774 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: this exact same team. How much our fans gonna care 775 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: about this team right? How much of the fan is 776 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: gonna care about this team? Right? And going into training camp, 777 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: going into the season, you had these moves, and like 778 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: you said earlier, it's about winning. Right now, the Eagles 779 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: are losing guys like you thought. They lost their offensive 780 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive coordinator. That is clearly the team. I 781 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: guess it's them in San Francisco, and you put yourself 782 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: right in the mix with them again. And then obviously 783 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you just look at San Francisco's a different story. They 784 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: get better and then but then you also look at 785 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: just the landscape of the most important position at quarterback 786 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: across the NFC, Like I mean, the Cowboys they should 787 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: be right back in the mix again where they've been 788 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: the last two year. And they've been in a mix. 789 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: But but the good news, and I think I was 790 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: saying that on a break before, you know. But unlike 791 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: past years when they set out the first week of 792 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: free agency and we're worse, I can honestly say the 793 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: first time in a long time, the Cowboys got better 794 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: in March. Are you Are you trying to say you're happy. 795 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not a happier. When is the last 796 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: time that you would say