1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: we come. Omar Dorsey is my guest on the show. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: He's a familiar facing television and film Selma when they 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: see Us, Django, Unchanged, Ray Donovan Bones, Jens Rita, Franklin. 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Omar currently stars as a fan favorite Hollywood and Aba 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Duvense l a CP Award winning show, Queen Sugar. Queen 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: Sugar has been lauded for his powerful portrayal of an 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: African American family and the Deep South. He can also 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: be seen portraying and curismatic and ever so style is 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: freed on season two of Stars Our Book three, Raising 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: Kane Early this fall again, Omar will be reprising his 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: role as Sheriff Barker and Halloween Ends The Ladiest installed 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: one in bloom House produced Hollywood franchise the film with 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: premier in theaters on Friday, October fourteen, justin taff for 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: the holidays celebration. You don't have to wait to see him, right, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: I got it right here, y'all. The familiar face at all, 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: please working the money Making Conversations masterclass, the one and 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: only Omar Dorsey, my brother. Thank you so much for that. Well, 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just chasing. You know, the body of 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: work should be recognized because I look at sometimes we 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: were just grinders. You know what I'm saying. You're an entrepreneur, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: You know people he's an actor. No, he's an entrepreneur 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: because he's building a business, building a career. And when 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: in the process of doing that, their peaks in their valids, 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and there sometimes when you just you just cry because 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: you don't know chosen the right path. Can you talk 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: about some of your journey early on, because when I 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: was going through your resume, it was one thing that 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: did that in two thousand and six, all those beautiful 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: credits I've adread about it. God names associated you did 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: an episode of Entourage and it listened to you as 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: a young thug number one. That's that's that's a credit. 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: That's a credit. But that was two thousand six, right, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about when it started turning after two thousand 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: and six. You know what. I came home as I 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: did Entourage and it was pretty good. It was alright, 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: at a good time. I like to show a lot, 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: but I said, I don't want to play thugs anymore. 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I want to play something my kids can be very 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: proud of me. Of right, sir. So um, there have 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: been times in my career where I stepped back when 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, let me figure out 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: exactly what the next phase of my career is gonna be. 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: And if it takes time for me to do whatever 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I need to do, um, take six months or a year, uh, 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: then I will do it and so I can be 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: seen in a different light. I didn't after that. I said, 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to just play these nameless people or 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: and it was a pretty good role, you know it, 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: just it just sucked that it was called that. You 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, dude, you don't know if this 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: guy the young thug or whatever if he goes home 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: to a wife and kids or anything like that. But 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: you know about that time was the time I just 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: stepped back and I think I'm a gonta change agencies 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: and managements because I said, I had a vision for 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: myself that with much ch much further than just you know, 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: playing bit parts. Right, I got with an amazing manager, 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: gut was I'm managing with right now, frankn Zalez who 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: saw the fishing and he's you know, omar yo, I 68 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: see what you're trying to do, and you know, allow 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: me to guide you and take you to that next level. 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: And you know ever since then that we're gonna rocking 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: and rolling. Yeah, that's why that's I wanted to bring 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: that moment up because, like I said, there are many 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: moments we have in your life and so but also 74 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you have to make a decision because people will see 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: you and keep pushing you down in lane where they 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: think you should be at, where they think you should go. 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And then you have to realize that there's an unknown 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: when you push back that's not me, you know, the 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: is I'm working, but I don't want to work like that. 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: What fear unknown? Did you? Did you have to introduce 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: your peer group around you, what support group that you 82 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: have or was it just you? It's definitely my peer group, 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: you know. I have like a lot of friends who 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: are extremely successful. And even in two thousand and six, Uh, 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the guys who I wrote with, uh, they they were 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: getting it. They were getting it, And I was like, 87 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: we all started out together, right, and then no reason 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: why I should be lagging behind and if we all 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: started at the same time. And even though I don't 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: measure my success by anybody else's, but I saw the 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: opportunities that were out there, and I didn't want to 92 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: drop the ball and get into a rat race and 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: just get into like, well, I'm always playing the same thing, 94 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: getting pigeon old. Even now, as much as I do 95 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: love playing Hollywood, I wouldn't go around and play something 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: like Kenneth f Reid or I will go and play 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: along and Harriet. I'll do something different that's so different 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: than what I'm playing, because I don't want anybody to 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: ever pigeonholed me into, uh you know, what they think 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: I should be doing. I'm like active comes from the theater. Man. 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm used to playing Othello or playing y'all go either one. 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm used to doing August Wilson. I'm used 103 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: to doing Tom Stopper, and I'm used bird Off Brick 104 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: and all these different things. So it's like I didn't 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: want to come into the film and television game and 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: just Okay, well he's a big guy, he's dark skinned. 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: Let's go and just make him thug number. No. No, 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: if'm don't be a thug woman Medino Brown, Absolutely, there 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: you go. They should have to kill them at the 110 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: end of that. They had sequel to three or four. 111 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: They have several sequels now. All the money. I didn't 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: mention the credit there, oh Mar that you had, but 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you bring it out anyway. Because I hated you. I 114 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: hated you. I hated you and Harriet I bore everybody 115 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: hated me ya people, would you know what? For sure, 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I've never felt so much better in all of my life, 117 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: like personal like oh my god, you're a sellout, like 118 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: amazing job. People are writing our ends about me. I'll say, yo, 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: I must have been really good and you because me 120 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and Sound both did django and it Sound was like, man, 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: you want up me on this one man. They hated 122 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: me and said they're going because I think you saw 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: early uh viewing of it. He said, they don't hate, 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: they don't despise you. And this one, I said, that's 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: what I want. Man again, you love me again. Oh 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: my goodness. I would tell you something, man, if you 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen this the movie, uh Holly, when you and 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: even and increased the relationship again in the acting scene 129 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: with and Aretha. You know genius series with Cynthia who 130 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: started as was the lead and Harriet and so that's 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: where the great role is about, because we know you, 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: not a in that period. You know you, and you 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: go back there and you accept the role of responsibility. 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: But by the way, ain't nobody gonna hate nobody more 135 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: than Samy Yale and Janet go unchained that that food. 136 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I was telling you something. You know, we were doing 137 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: the movie when he first comes down the stairs right right, 138 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: we're all in the line. We're watching them and Sam 139 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: goes into that character. It's everything inside of me not 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: to laugh because Sam was so on the nose, never 141 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: said anything like it. I was like, man, he is 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: showing up the scenery. He's ball man, this is in 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: the moment he was in the character. Man, that's he's 144 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: my favorite act of all time that that that dude 145 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: right there. He was more white than he was black, 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: but he was more white. He was more of a 147 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: white player holder than the slave owner. They were like, 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: can you pull up, man, don't treat them. You treat 149 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: them like this, you treat them. He forgot who he 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: was and that was that I'm telling you, man, that's 151 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: like when we was shooting out, I was laughing. I 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: wanted to laugh so hard because he was really into 153 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: that character so deep. Yes, but it was so funny, 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: it was so outrageous. But and it was. But yeah, man, 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: So it's a couple of characters like that, Like I 156 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: think Mr. And Color Purple is pretty attrocious, sup. But 157 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: he has a redemption at the end. But you had 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: no regemption. Oh you ain't get no redemption. And Harry, 159 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: you get no redemption now? And Jano No, the Mr 160 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: had redemption and Color yes, yes, but that's a beautiful 161 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: part of you. Like I said, I was reading the 162 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: credit you know, Selma, Ray Donovanto, which I loved you 163 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: and Ray Donovan and things like that. Bones all those 164 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: bodies at work that are available to African American talent. 165 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Now that we did I just I could say, man, 166 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: probably about eight years ago, all we had was reality 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: shows with black people acting in them on scripted shows. 168 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: When did you start noticing the opportunity was opening for 169 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: better scripted series like you on right now in Queen's Sugar, 170 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: which is helmed by Eva douven At, which is a 171 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, award win in double a cp UH series. 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: When you start seeing roles like that come your way, 173 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: you went, wow, we started to turn the corner for 174 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: African American talent. It was a year that it was 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: a year that uh that that that that Jesus Lord, 176 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: it was a year that that that we came out. 177 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: Queen Sugar came out. Come, Queen Sugar came out, Atlanta 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: came out the same year Nothing you might have came 179 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: out the year before. So I saw the turn, and 180 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the next year the shot came out. I said, OK, yeah, 181 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: that's what we look like. This is exactly what we 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: looked like in my regular life. It's not. Everybody's not 183 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: drug there was everybody's our basketball players, everybody's not reality stars. No, no, like, 184 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: these are regular people living a regular live. That's how 185 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of people who I know, not the 186 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: people who are like zillionaires. But the people, even the 187 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: people who are famous actors or whatever. Man, we all 188 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: live the same way that we live on the Shy 189 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: on Queens, Sugar on Atlanta or Insecure. It's the same thing, 190 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: and we finally get to receive the reflection. It was 191 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: those two years, man, it was two thousand fifteen. In 192 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, and I said, it wasn't the renaissance 193 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: of black television, because renaissance means rebirth. It was the 194 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: birth of black television. It's not just sit Coomes. It's 195 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: not just us being silly or just and trust me, 196 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: by my favorite shows in the world, but the rest 197 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: of my my whole life have been safer, the Sun 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: and the Jefferson. Absolutely, it's not all just sit Comes. 199 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm funny, but I ain't that funny. I 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to be on nothing as good 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: as like Red Fox or uh Seman Helmsley, you know. 202 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: But I know that I can act, and I know 203 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: that I could bring what I can bring to you know, 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: to drama or even to to some drama. Y. So 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: it was It's fifth two thousand fifteen, two thousand sixteen, 206 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: and I saw The Tired Turn, and I saw other 207 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: shows coming up behind it. It was great shows, even 208 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: like a show like This Is Us, which is not 209 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: particularly a black show, but when you have Sterling and 210 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: you have Susan, you know, who leads of the show, 211 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: then there you go, boom this you see a black family, 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, so um yeah, that's where it was, man um. 213 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: It was that year. I think This Is Us and 214 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: quin Sula came out the same time after you know me, 215 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Starling and Susan are not each other for over twenty years, 216 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: and and we were all just very excited, like this 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: is a really great opportunity that we really get a 218 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: chance to show our chops and what we can do 219 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: and show that we can you know, bring you can 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: have a fan base. So that those were the years. 221 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: That's when I saw the Tired Turn. And it's never 222 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: looked back. Man. Now you look, you know, you look 223 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: at all the so many it's a plethora shows right 224 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: now that that showed the black life. You look at 225 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: ABD Elementary here. This is not particularly a black show, 226 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: but it is a black show, absolutely creative black woman. 227 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: But it's getting all the love, it's getting all the praise. 228 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: You know even before then, I think two thousand fourteen 229 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: or fifteen, when Blackness came out and I was like, 230 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, this looks like my sam you know what 231 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I appreciate that because of the fact 232 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: that you're talking to Omar Dorsey. If his face looks 233 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: for your var sounds familiar, Selma when they see us 234 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Chain Gonna Chaine where we just laughed about what started 235 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Sammy or Jackson and Jamie foxx Ray Donovan Bones Genius 236 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: sent there. You know she started that movie as well 237 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: as Harriet, which we just talked about. The Reata Franklin. 238 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: What you haven't seen that he plays Jane Cleveland role 239 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: in the in The Genius. Aretha Frankelt was just on 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: that geo. By the way, now you you in this SI, 241 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I think I call this a peach yourself serious queen 242 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Sugar because when you get this opportunity, you know, because 243 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: we all know that how these checks come in Hollywood. 244 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: You you work and then you don't know when you're 245 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna work again. When you kindly get a series, you 246 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: can kind of relax, but you only relax to see 247 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: if they're gonna renew it. Then you can like, oh, 248 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: okayy reknew the tell us about your role in Queen's 249 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: Sugar and the difference it makes in your life, both 250 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: personally and what you're trying to do when you're trying 251 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: to change the narrative on how blacks have changed or 252 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: portrayed in television. Do you know it's a beautiful thing. Man. 253 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: I remember the day that I was doing to move 254 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: into Bahamas and it was Uh calls me, she says, Oh, 255 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: my mother do a show called Queen Sugars me. It's 256 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: gonna be on the own network. And you know, I 257 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: just got fairs working with Oprah on something with Ava 258 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: And she said, she said, I want you to read 259 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the script and you tell what you think about it. 260 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: I read the script, she said, read it. I wrote 261 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: the Hollywood. I read it. I was like, oh, this 262 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: is a beautiful I said, you want me to play 263 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: this role? I just come down. This is me coming 264 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: out for Ray Donovan, right, and like, you know Cookie 265 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Brown playing one of the coldest dudes on television. Yeah, 266 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, oh I want you to play 267 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: this role. Those a matter of fact, when when Ray 268 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Donovan was out, many went out. Uh when out, She's like, 269 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I liked right on them and said you're great. After 270 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: she said, but I see something else for you. She 271 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: told me that, and I see something else. I don't 272 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: want you to always have to play you know this 273 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: that now, I said, Okay, I feel you. I feel you. 274 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: So maybe three or four months later she hits me 275 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: with that script and I will said, why this is amazing, 276 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: this is I love it. So when I issue for it, 277 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: said Bisi, no, no, no, no, no, no, this wow, 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: she said, she said, I'm producing the way ever we will. 279 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm producing wa Oprah, we love you so well, call 280 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: your lawyers and do the deal. And it's already a 281 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: put series, which mean it's already picked up for thirteen episodes. 282 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: So I worked from like job to job to like, wait, 283 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: thirteen episode? Whoa as a series? Right? My whole life 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: changed in that conversation, you know, and it truly did. 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: And and that's just the monetary thing. Playing Hollywood, playing 286 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Hollyan's worth days name Hollywood has changed my life. So 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I just changed my life as a man because I'm 288 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: saying these words to this woman every day, and I'm 289 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: saying At first, I was like, man, it's corny. Nobody 290 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: thinks like this, somebody talks about this, I'll play it. 291 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: But then then the character starts to seep inside of me. 292 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: And I found myself, uh being more like Hollywood on 293 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: a daily basis, because I was like, this is how 294 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: a man you treat this woman. This is how a 295 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: man should be in the community, This is how a 296 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: Manson treat his whole family. So I feel like playing 297 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: that role has changed me that much and a change 298 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: of perception on the type of actor I am I 299 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: see now, man, Like it's crazy, like the roles that 300 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I get now what you know we're talking about, going 301 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: from playing Thug number one to playing the Sheriff and 302 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Halloween franchise, which is you know, also came from my 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: buddies who did that He's Bound to Down series I 304 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: used to be on. But like a lot of the 305 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: stuff I get now, man, a lot most of the 306 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: things that I get now are these upstanding, you know, 307 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: really great men. And I really appreciate that because and 308 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I know that it came from Queen Sugar. I know that. 309 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: But I finished on a movie called water Boys and 310 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: playing with the young the young fellow who's on day 311 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: that makes man um and I played his mentor. He 312 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: knows a lot of streets stuff involved in it. But 313 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I played his mentor, who owns the who owns the 314 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: I T Company and own such a copy shop and 315 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: all of this type of stuff, and I hired him. 316 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: But I'm like the voice of reason throughout the movie. 317 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, these are the roles that weren't really 318 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: offered to me before a Queen Sugar. So even like 319 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: even with that man, it's just such a blessing. And 320 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: even the stuff I get because I don't have audition 321 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot anymore, I just get these offers for these 322 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: amazing roles. Now, congratulations, it all comes from you know, 323 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago when when when Abel calls me 324 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen, you know, Um asked me 325 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: to read the script. So yeah, we'll be right back 326 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, 327 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. 328 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: Im teous. I'm talking to Dorsey, a classically trained and 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: double a CP Award winning actor based in the Atlanta, 330 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Georgia area called the Kata. During this thing down here, 331 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna transition a little bit, because I'm 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: pretty sure you are sports enthusiast. You know. Okay, you 333 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: got the Falcons down here, You've got the Hawks down here, 334 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: you got the braids, braids world champion. Oh, Georgia Bulldog 335 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: got that? Okay? Cool? So so a real bull dog fan? Yes, okay, cool? 336 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: So so they're gonna win it again, sir, Yes, okay, cool. 337 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: Five people dropped into the first round defense last year. Here, 338 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: hey man, the boys right behind them, and ain't no 339 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: pump seven man, the boys was playing a second. We 340 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: got Carter coming in, ringing ring rings rings that he 341 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: already and Carter both and Um and Bowers. They all 342 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: all Americans who not with money. We'll be good over 343 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: here now. You know, well, I bring it up the 344 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: old man playing quarterback right absolutely now. When I when 345 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: I look into your your brand, because I'm about to 346 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: transition to Hollywood, Halloween, you know a series. You know. 347 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: That's why I love about your career, man, because of 348 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: the fact that hard work, consistency. You made a decision 349 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: to say I don't want to do this. A lot 350 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: of people look at you, go, hey man, you don't 351 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: want to work anymore in Hollywood. Just what they're seeing 352 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: you said, that's not what I see in myself. And 353 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: then you working in an iconic horror series called Halloween 354 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: and you play a character that's a dignified character, not 355 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: a thug. You know, you you on the other side 356 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: of the thug the police, you just share and you're 357 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: working with the infamous Jamie Lee Curtis. That's my sister 358 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: Lee Family Curtis talk so much smack uh. You wouldn't 359 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: even understand this woman would talk. She talks so much trash. 360 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: I love her so much, and she is so funny. 361 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: She's so she's just a throwback to those women of 362 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: the seventies. And then you know she's like one of 363 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: those actresses. Man, but she can she's still like she's 364 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: still ripped up in amazing shape. Man. She I love 365 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: Jamie Lee with all my art. Man, I love her. 366 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: Because we didn't have any scenes in the first one, 367 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: so we kind of the second one. She was like, Omar, 368 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk to you, but 369 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: I absolutely love your your acting. I love everything that 370 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: you do. I love what you did in the Holloway. 371 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's crazy that I appreciate it. 372 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: We only had one one or two scenes in the 373 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: first one. So she saw the thing put together, she 374 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: was just so excited. She loves it, man, And you 375 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: know that we have a great time. I love Jamie 376 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: Lee with all my heart. Well you know that that 377 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Bloomhouse resurrected the brain, you know, and I can't wait 378 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: to the areas again this fall October fourteen when his 379 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: theaters again. Now, then you go over to power book 380 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: and like I said, and let's let's talk about that 381 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: a minute, because, like you said, Rishan, now that I'm 382 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: getting a diversity in my roles, I don't mind doing it. 383 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: It's just part of your portfolio or not. It's part 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: of your catchet. Now, so explain everybody what exactly what 385 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: you mean what it is is this like okay, so 386 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: I played I play uh Cardier for ree Car Cardier 387 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: does free Um, and you don't know, he's a very 388 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: mysterious character. Um. You know, we only only episode three 389 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: right now, so he's just just getting a little drops 390 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: of what he's doing. But episode four it's gonna go 391 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: is what it goes on with u? Um. You know, 392 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: you have to start to see a little bit of 393 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: what he is and who he like, like how he 394 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: moves around and he's in the music business, but he's 395 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: also in the art world. He's in some other things too. 396 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: But you don't even know that. You really wouldn't even 397 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: understand all, you know, And it's like he's a a 398 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: serious character, who's um you know, Uh, he's a man 399 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: of mystery. That's all I'll say is the most impeccable suits. 400 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: And I took you the last episode of Just stand 401 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Out yesterday. I was speaking, I was speaking that speech 402 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: I was. I was talking to the lead, the character 403 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Rock played by Petina Miller, was a was spitting game 404 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: out of but I was spitting game using Shakespeare. Why 405 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: so you you know I get a chance to use 406 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: some of that. And I was dropping on him and 407 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: it was like, whoa, this is something different. I've never 408 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: got the chance to say Shakespeare on the camera before. 409 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: I've better gonna on theater. But I was like, Wow, 410 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: this is this is fun. I love it. I love it. 411 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: I was speaking to all my dorsey, uh, just about 412 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: his career, A brilliant career and his only growing But 413 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: currently it's the last season. Sadly, as we say, Queen 414 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Sugar on their own network, a project brought to him 415 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: by Eva duven At has turned into an n double 416 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: a TV award winning show and it's part of your legacy. 417 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: Now as we wrapp for this interview, and you've in 418 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: a part a guy who, like I said, I pointed 419 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: out something in two thousand and six just to let 420 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: you know your body at work high and shifted out 421 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: and how I look at so diverse. So you know 422 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: you could be hated and Harriet and be loved in 423 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Queens Sugar and then mysterious and raising Canaan. So that's 424 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: where you're add in your life, my friend, and then 425 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: you can be right there the shaff Barker in Hollywood. 426 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful resonate, Ma, man, any of important thoughts, man, 427 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just appreciate you, man, um. But yeah, 428 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: this is what it is man Like, Like you said, 429 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: you have to really believe in yourself, you know, um. 430 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: But before any before anybody can believe in you, gotta 431 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: believe that the skills that you have, that the work 432 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: that you put in like that that will translate whenever 433 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: and whatever career path you choose, what however you want 434 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: to do it, if you're into politics or if you're 435 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: into uh, the arts, if you're in the sports, or 436 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: if you're into education, if you have done or due diligence, 437 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: and then one day the light will shine on you 438 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: and you'll be ready to be ready for your clothes up. Cool. 439 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you taking the time 440 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: to come on there and talk about the last season 441 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: of Queen Sugar Again. We'll be watching a game we're 442 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: watching on the small screen, be watching a big thing. 443 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. Money Making Conversation master Class. 444 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate we talked to my friend. Stay sav a brother. 445 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 446 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into the Money 447 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hire Rashan 448 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: McDonald for Money Making Conversation master Class with your daily 449 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: minute of Inspiration. Recently, I spoke with Grammy Award winning 450 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: chart topping gospel singer, actress, songwriter, producer, and businesswoman Tamla Man. 451 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: She explains how important it is to support our communities first, 452 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm learning this thing like you were saying earlier, 453 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: and to just be honest with people, and you know, 454 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, we do it for other genres or other 455 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: people that are not from our community. I just want 456 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: us to learn to support one another and we all 457 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: can grow and we all can be me and Dan 458 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: or whatever we want to be in if we support 459 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: our own as black people. Guys, we don't really need nobody, 460 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: That's true. We could do it all of ourselves, you know, 461 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: just by support me. Now I'm talking to Tamla Man. 462 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: She's appreciating the economics so the black community. If you 463 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: want to listen to this full interview with Tamla Man 464 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: is available on money Making Conversations dot com. Now let's 465 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. My 466 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: next causse is Dr Cedric McFadden is a popular TV 467 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: medical contributor for Black Health is Black Health adket and 468 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: Assistant Professor of Surgery. Dr McFadden graduated with honors something 469 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: that I did from Xavier University of Louisiana and New 470 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Orleans down in that good food country and they and 471 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: learned his medical degree from Temple University School of Medicine 472 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: and Philadelphia another great eating place as well. And man 473 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: loves eat, I think because now he's based in South 474 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: Carolina today we'll be talking to about vaccines, variants, masking, reinfections, antibodies, 475 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: and coping with the loss of the coping with loss 476 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: and isolation. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Master Class, 477 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Doctor Centric McFadden. How are you doing, sir, Thank you 478 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: so much for having me. I'm honored to be one 479 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: of your guests. Well, thank you, because I when I 480 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: look at my medical history, sir, you know, um in 481 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: the eighteen you know, I always thought I was a 482 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: guy who could like um hell himself. You know, if 483 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: I if I got a cold, I just go outside 484 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: and play basketball and just swing it out of me. 485 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then then in the 486 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: eighteen and my lung collapse and I stayed in hospital 487 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: for thirty days. So that was the first, uh touch 488 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: of immortality I couldn't live for tapped into my life 489 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: because I checked out of the hospital about three times, 490 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: and every time they said, we got to bring it back. 491 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: We don't know what's wrong with you. And then in 492 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: mean I I was diagnosed with cancer. And you know yourself, doctor, 493 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: when you tell us about it that they have cancer, 494 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: their life and my life did flash, you know, and 495 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: it was it was a sudden sense of reality. They 496 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: didn't even told me anything anybody was it was curable. 497 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: They just all I heard was cancer, and it was 498 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: tied to me and my body, and uh it was 499 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: turned out to be thyroid cancer. And there was another 500 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: surgical scar that was around my neck and they removed 501 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: that and uh, birth the cancer out of me, you know, 502 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: And I'm still every year I go through checks. And 503 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: then recently I had a sweat gland tumor that we're 504 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: moving the back of my head and so I got 505 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: a scar here, scar here, scar on my back. Now 506 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: these are visual physical scars. The pandemic a lot of 507 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: left a lot of emotional scars tied to isolation. And 508 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: talked to us about that. But you're absolutely right. I 509 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: think one of the scars and the challenges that people 510 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: arents after COVID, even during the pandemic, was sort of 511 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: that feeling of being alone, whether that be you're stuck 512 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: in the house, can't go out to work, or not 513 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: interacting with your normal social circle. That's hard a lot 514 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: of people. And it's it's hard because we're used to 515 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: having time together with our family. We're used to having 516 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: family unions, having dinners at church and we stopped all 517 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: of it, and that creates, you know, a scar you 518 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: talk about, you know what creates the scar. Initially, it's 519 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: it's the trauma. It's the it's the injury to this 520 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: tissue to the cells that then needs to as it healed, 521 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: a residual presence. And often we're seeing even now that 522 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: we're you know, getting to a different phase of the pandemic, 523 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: you might say, uh, there's residual there's residual anxiety, whether 524 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: it be just entering back into normal life there ever, 525 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: it will be such a thing. Um, but often we're 526 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: still finding challenges with you know, how our churches can 527 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: come back together again, that's scar, right, How our students 528 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: can come back together and play football, that's a scar. 529 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: And how we make our lives continue despite the scars 530 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: so still real, you know, a present effect with this 531 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: all that we're gonna have to to continue to work through 532 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: and follow kind of our science and making sure we're 533 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: thinking of ourselves at the same time. You know, when 534 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: you talk about being a black health advocate, you know, 535 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, we know black people when notorious bad eaters, 536 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: fried food is our friend. You know, Uh, the high 537 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: cholesterol is the silent killer in the black community. And uh, 538 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: but now we're talking about mental health too, which falls 539 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: into your genre. We could have to deal with that, 540 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: and black people are starting their mit they have mental 541 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: issues that need to be handled. Why do you think 542 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: that finally, black poor say we have problems and we 543 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: need to discuss them openly. I think we've we've come 544 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: to a place where we recognize that you can't ignore it. 545 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean two thousand and twenty was a tough year 546 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and we it was reminiscent of what we saw, you know, 547 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: from videos from the sixties sort of civil rights, where 548 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: you can't ignore in your face, uh, you know, graphic 549 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: images of what's happening in front of us. And I 550 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: think we got to a collective place, not only blacks, 551 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: but all of them are that you know, we were 552 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: having to do with the trauma of it all. I 553 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: think we also understood more that we've had people who 554 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: look like myself. We've been able to talk with uh 555 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: media and talk with churches and schools and to open 556 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: the door for the conversation about mental health, especially in person, 557 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: to call it black and having you know, celebrities and 558 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: having people come forth talking about their troubles and having pastors, 559 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: we opened about their troubles. We've understood that we all experience, 560 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: all have challenges when it comes down from mental health. 561 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: We all have to find resolution and active process to 562 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: help us move beyond it. Um, it's a welcome sight. Um. 563 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: You can't continue to push towards greatness if you're often 564 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: mentally pushing back years of stress and abuse and challenges. 565 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: And so it's gonna help us become stronger. It's gonna 566 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: help us become better when we do push for it 567 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: and mush beyond that. Dr bad And you know, here's 568 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: the thing, you know, the health contributor and everything tends 569 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: to come back at your dorstam Okay, And we are 570 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: the African American and the Brown community. We are a 571 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: community of denying yours. You know, we deny the gay community. 572 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Guess what we lead in aide infection, We deny our 573 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: health habits, we lead in COVID deaths. You know what 574 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying? We didn't. We know, we deny that we 575 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: need mental health, We lead in stress related illnesses, denied, 576 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: denied that that, how can we stop denying? And then 577 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: which in turn will cause us to live a healthier 578 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: life starting with the gay community. Yeah, I mean it 579 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: starts by first, um acknowledging, acknowledging that there are problems. 580 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Even though you see these problems, if you don't acknowledge 581 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: that exists, you'll never accept and then work towards activating 582 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: a solution for that problem. So we have to first 583 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: acknowledge and then we have to entrusts the two part. 584 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: Then um, you know churches say all the time just 585 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: to acknowledge and then move beyond it. We have to 586 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact it we do have eating half sess 587 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned that mark helpful. We often acknowledge that we 588 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: have certain behaviors, whether it be substance abuse, alcohol to 589 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: back of that are killing this. We have to acknowledge 590 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, we've had challenges in getting 591 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, the healthcare that we need over the years 592 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: because the systemic racism and the burden is not placed 593 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: solely on African Americans. As a medical profession, we have 594 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the years of systemic racism that has helped 595 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: um kind of continue some of those cycles of disparity, right, 596 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: and so we all have our work to do, but 597 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: we also have to take the ownership and move forward 598 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: with our own progress. Well, you know, they thank you 599 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: for the response, and I guess and upset to me 600 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: because of the fact that we are such a proud 601 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: race and when I when I see us leading in 602 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: negative stats, when I see us leading in age debts, 603 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, it just only makes us overall 604 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: as a race, look look look inefficient, look defective. In 605 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: other way, when we used when you know, I don't 606 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: want COVID, when they started listening COVID debts and early 607 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: on it was like we out to tend people who 608 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: are dying with black or some states some cities was 609 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: six out of ten that that was. That's a statue 610 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: you want to lead in. But they all go back 611 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: to that our eating habits and how we live our 612 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: lives daily are also the communities that we also live in. Correct, Well, 613 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a combination of things. It's it's certainly you 614 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: know your your bodies ability to handle an infection like COVID, 615 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: you have to be held right, I mean, so the 616 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: already OBEs you have comobilities as certainly gonna make it 617 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: harder for you to fight something like But as we 618 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: see with it's now COVID and see what cancers procects. 619 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: It's colorrectal cancer, heart disease. We see a pattern that 620 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: exists where there is disparity in outcomes, where blacks are 621 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: more likely to die from many of these illnesses compared 622 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: to the white counterparts. Not all of that is genetics 623 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: and all of that is eating well. Some of it's 624 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: just disparity that's caused from sort of social determinants of 625 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: how well we have access to care, not only care, 626 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: but awten we have access to good medical care. So 627 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: it's a combination of a lot of these other factors. 628 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: It's not exactly that we're just eating poorly. It's not 629 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: exactly that made bad choices. It's the collective of all 630 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: of those things that creates the narrative that you displays 631 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: the disparity and health and outcomes. Now, let's you know 632 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: the thing about media. Media doesn't help you know when 633 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: because now if you think about it, like for instance, 634 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: recently President Biden, he had COVID and I think his 635 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: wife has COVID as well, because he had double positi 636 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: of the tests and now he's out. But now if 637 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: you if you listen to the media, nobody's dying from 638 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: COVID and we know that's not true, but when it was, 639 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: when it was media savvy to lead with that story, 640 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: it was all over the news. How do you think 641 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: the role of how the COVID situation, especially when it 642 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: comes to death, should be communicated and there should just 643 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: stay at the top of the storage and hey or 644 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: or it doesn't matter because it's all about TV raidings. Well, yeah, 645 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: that's a that's a very difficult question to answer because 646 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: there are several ways of that, right. I mean, there's 647 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: the present news of what's happened that day that takes 648 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: presidents often over what's happened two, three or four months ago. 649 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a similar effective when you're celebrating Breast 650 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: Cancer Weariness Month. It doesn't mean that people are dying 651 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: from in a light to it at this point, but 652 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: there's this undercurrent of of a a story that's always 653 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: president um and I think that's where we in the 654 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: community have to do our part. Listen, It's like when 655 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: you go to church, you know say that. It's like 656 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: or if you go to school wherever the lessons have 657 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: been taught, that's not where the real work is done. 658 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: The real work is done on a daily basis. It's 659 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: a minute. I meant, it's what we do in our communities, 660 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: it's what we do in our homes, it's what we 661 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: do in our cases of work. And so we can 662 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: certainly take the lead from what we see in media 663 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: as sort of the highlight of what's happening. But there's 664 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: real work that's happened every day across this country, every hospital, 665 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: every doctor's office, every home where. What we know is 666 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: happening needs to be a dealt with addressed term of 667 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: the doctor, says With McFadden, popular TV medical contributor, Black 668 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: health advocate and Assistant Professor of surgery. Um So I 669 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: can assume based on the response not saying it directly 670 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: from you or how America's hamlet that we know people 671 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: die from the flu. You know it's not being reported, 672 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: So the same thing is happening basically COVID. People are 673 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: out there dying of COVID. It's just not been reported, 674 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: but they I am a person who's double VACS. I'm 675 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: a person who wears his mask, especially on the plane. Sir, 676 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: I will have my mask on, but I go through 677 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: the airport, I'll be I'll be flying to bar. It 678 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: will be people walking around like, WHOA, Okay, I don't 679 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: know none of y'all. People, I don't know where you 680 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: come from. Okay, y'all just breathe that I've got my 681 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: mask on. What are your thoughts when you see that? 682 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: Am I being overly health conscious? Or am I doing 683 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: the right thing based on how I should treat my 684 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: mental health and my body? Well, you know, we all 685 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: have been the right You're you're in the store, You're 686 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: you're wearing a mask. Other folks aren't wearing the mask. Um. 687 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: I do think it's the responsibility of us to take 688 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: care of knowing ourselves for the people that are around us, 689 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: and told folks, folks that that means where the mask 690 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: means wearing a mask, um, even if it's in the airport, 691 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: even if it's in churches or schools. I do think 692 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: that as we have seen more people like yourself getting 693 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: double lacks, getting your boosters and following up on symptoms 694 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: and doing our responsibility, it doesn't make us fell like, Okay, 695 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: we're in the safer spot. Uh. And in some ways 696 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: there's some truth to that, but we still have a 697 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: responsibility in places where we don't know the the health 698 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: of the people that were around. You know, we're in 699 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: these large public settings. It's a different group than if 700 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: we're in sort of the confines of our home or employment, 701 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: where we know the people that were around. So I 702 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: don't think that you're being unreasonable, and I don't think 703 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: you should completely out of place, because again you're doing 704 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: what is right, especially making sure we take care of 705 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: your own health and think here of the people that 706 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: are around you as well. Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. 707 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, um, the medical community is will never be 708 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: the same since COVID because you know, because now you know, 709 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: you zoom my doctor said that we don't have to 710 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: meet we can meet the a zoom. Okay, all right. 711 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: You know before that there have been blasts form me 712 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: that have been you don't do medicals, you don't do 713 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: medical care like that. That's horrific. But now the rules 714 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: have changed, doctor talk to me. Yeah, they have traded 715 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: for even in our own practice. I mean I've always 716 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've we've talked in the past before 717 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: COVID about the availability of doing tellent medicine and as 718 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: a as as a surgeon, I think there's no way 719 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: that a surgeon can do a visit that way, and 720 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: we know that's not the case. Now there's certain visits 721 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: you can't do, but there are definitely some conversations that 722 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: we can't have through this medium. And I think it's 723 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: like using the tools that we have to our advantage 724 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: and then coming back to see how can we continue 725 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: to use these tools to maximize the patient care and 726 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: to maximize and builability of people to come see us 727 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: and to get the care they even if they can't 728 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: physically come see it. So I think it's still gonna 729 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: be a part of what we do. To what degree 730 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna be left to see, But you know, I've 731 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: also welcomed it and I enjoyed having this conversation over 732 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: a virtual care over the virtual platform with my patients. 733 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 734 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 735 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, and I know what 736 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere, but this is where my takeaway 737 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: because you know, as you get older, you get more 738 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: and more care and you care more about living longer 739 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: as you get older. Young people would listening to this 740 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: podcast or this radio show. You'll you'll find that earlier 741 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: life you don't care as you get older, you're trying 742 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: to extend the years because because you can. You know, 743 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: like I said, you know when you when you're eighteen, 744 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 1: you said that we're fifted. Oh that's a long way away. 745 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: But when you're saying and farty, get right around the corner. 746 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: And and so the thing that just tell you to 747 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: share a story with you like when I when I 748 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with thyrod cancer um I I every year 749 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: I was a doctor at Emory, and I saying nothing 750 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: negative about emery, but he missed it, and and and 751 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: and then I when I go to my annual dental 752 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: appointment and they missed it. And the person who found 753 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: it was a person who's doing my blood test. They 754 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: just asked me to to to touch feel around my 755 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: neck and he said, can we do a biopsy? And 756 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: biopsy came back cancerous. And so what I was my 757 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: takeaway from the reason those two other people missed it 758 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: was that I was casual in my conversation. You know, 759 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: you know when you meet people, you know them, they 760 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: ask you questions, you go and you were a stranger 761 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: that's that's who she was, and I didn't know who 762 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: she was. She started to ask me probably the same question. 763 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: I just spoke differently. Wasn't laughing around? Wasn't joking around 764 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: by having a great day? Are thinking about leaving as 765 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: soon as them? And what I've learned in the zoom calls, 766 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: and this is anybody who's talking to a medical professional, 767 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: slow down, don't zoom. Don't do the zoom call because 768 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: you want to get it out of the way. Don't 769 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: do the zoom call because you're in a hurry. Listen 770 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: to what the doctor is saying, because that disconnects can 771 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: be dangerous because you haven't made an effort to make 772 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: that happen. It's just turned on the switch WI Fi. 773 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: You there, am I right, It's it's still a real 774 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: medical because it's still time to hear about the problems 775 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: you're having and also to hear about potential solutions to 776 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: those problems. UM. I think a quick note to make 777 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: sure that you do that is before you get on 778 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: the call, right down the things that are that are 779 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: on your mind. Right down some key questions, because you 780 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: can sometimes forget the things that you want to say 781 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: if you don't have them read, especially in front of 782 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: a doctor or someone that you're gonna be kind of 783 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: going through it really quickly, having a piece of paper 784 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: and have those key concerns that you have. So Kennie 785 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: even shot down notes during that busines as well. Now 786 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: when you had when I had the title of Dr 787 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: McFadden Black health Advocate, you know you've you've heard me. 788 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: I I don't know if I have a health issue 789 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: other than life. You live alone. Life, things are gonna happen. 790 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: You know. I'm not a drinker of alcohol, don't smoke, 791 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: so these are just things that just happened in my 792 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: life part of my metabolism. When you say black health advocate, 793 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: Dr macfadden, what does that mean for me? I immediately 794 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: think about everyone in my family and specifically my my 795 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: grandmother UM that had health problems that would go to 796 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: the doctor UM and often she leaves the doctor. I 797 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: don't really think understanding exactly what was related, and not 798 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: having um immediate person or even her own ability to 799 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: advocate questions. Second guests come back around UH to clarify 800 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: UM information that's been presented. So when I say black 801 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: health advocate, I'm primarily referring to someone who's gonna speak up, 802 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: ask the questions, ask the questions again, ask them in 803 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: a different way, and not necessarily saying we're driving for 804 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: a certain answer, but we're providing clearing what clarities because 805 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: we need decisions to be made in space. That's that's um, 806 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: it's fully comprehended. You know, you don't want to make 807 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: a decision that's uneven, and so you make that decision 808 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: based on fully understanding. And that's what I like for 809 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: people to do, is to understand the health problems that 810 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: they face so they can make better decisions about the 811 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: cure that they need to receive. Cool. Now you would 812 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: just go down in Louisiana school CA. I did come 813 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: on that. I did a great time. Come on that time. 814 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: I would saying I born in Houston, Texas. Okay, I 815 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: t my boys my best man in the way I 816 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: need from New Orleans with the high school SAT. So 817 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,479 Speaker 1: I've been down New Orleans a lot. Tell us about 818 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: your college life, man, because I'm here was a lot 819 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: of fun but also tied to great education and black excellence. 820 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Talk to us. It did, and I'm just honored to 821 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: have that experience of being out of HBCU like Saving University. 822 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, I initially planned to attend at different university 823 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: UM that was not at HBCU, And towards the middle 824 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: of my senior high school imports teachers. I had a 825 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: teacher that reached out and said, you should check out 826 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: the school about called Saving UM. I had never been 827 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: to New Orleans. I knew nothing about it, but the presentation, 828 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: at least from the news report was about their history 829 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: and helping black skin to medical school. Hearing them he 830 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 1: has been a leader for years, for decades and preparing 831 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: African American students into medical school. And I knew then 832 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: I wanted to become a doctor. And so that's kind 833 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: of what let me even get to Save here. And 834 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: I fully took advantage of all the things that Savior 835 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: from the premedi society, the student government, she dealing with, 836 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: different activities in my campus. It was really a great 837 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: time to explore more about, you know, culture in New 838 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: Orleans UM. And I was grateful to have the experience 839 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: of being out of church in the Lower ninth Ward 840 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: and and and had a chance to interact very very 841 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: closely with members of the community and to learn about 842 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: their experiences and people to give back to them. So 843 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: I it was. It was one of the most you know, fabius, 844 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: four years of my life and I wouldn't treat for 845 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: anything in the world. Wow, you know I I look 846 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: at it, I say black excellence. When I talked about HBCUs, 847 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: I didn't attend an HPCU. I'm my advocate of hpc US, 848 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,479 Speaker 1: my company, and my brand and my brand association. In fact, 849 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: one of my nieces she should going down to proving 850 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: your inn them. I'm very proud of her. Uh this 851 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: fall should be enrolling into an HBCU. But when you 852 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: look at the like you just said, people don't know. 853 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: What you don't know can hurt you and the success 854 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: and the academic success, especially of HBCUs. If you had 855 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: somebody listening to this, who's listening to the show, who 856 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: don't know what tiny secret or what secret or brand 857 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: awareness that you'd like to bring to the table that 858 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: people should know about HBCUs, especially the one you attended. Yeah, 859 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: it is a is a hotbed of just excellence, you know, 860 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: from people around the country, around the world who recognized 861 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: that and come together space going through sort of premed 862 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: trying it was. It was nothing uncommon for us to 863 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: always studying together in the library setting, and you have 864 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: people who've been through the classes before who reached back 865 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: out and kind of help you get through with what 866 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: you're getting through. Um, it was just nothing like UM 867 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in the day watching a different world, 868 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: And while we didn't have a Wayne or Willy Gilbert, 869 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: it was very similar that sort of communal, that sort 870 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: of camaraderie. It was. It was phenomenal space. And UM, 871 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: I didn't pledge in in in college, UM because I 872 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: felt like I had so many other brothers around right, 873 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 1: didn't even feel like there was anything lacking to one 874 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: because it was just a commonplace. But Dr said Pratt, 875 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: and uh, I want you to come back. You know, 876 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: I think that what I try to do on my 877 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: show is provide information. Um, you didn't dodge anybody questions. 878 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: Not that the questions you should dodge, but some people. 879 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: But to clear understanding that more and more in our 880 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: community need to have advocates like you need to have 881 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: a place where they can go and get the information. 882 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: There's there's spoon fair to them, not just shoved down 883 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: their throat, and not when it's too late, but early 884 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: in the game. Because pre care is really the precursor 885 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: to good care. And I want to thank you for 886 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: coming on Money Making Conversation master Class and don't make 887 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: this your last visit. Dr Cedric mccleston, happy to be here, 888 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. We talked to Mr HBC 889 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: you Grant Xavier Universe. We talked about Gumbo l at All. 890 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. 891 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 1: Always remember to lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations 892 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: Masterclass is a presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated. You 893 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of 894 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. Hi, I'm ra Sean McDonald for 895 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration. 896 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: This week I sat down with actress Shirley Raff, who 897 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: currently starts on the hit ABC comedy series Abbott Elementary. 898 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: She shares why she networks and make sure she leaves 899 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 1: a good impression on others. Who wants to work with you? 900 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: Who wants to work with you again? A friend of 901 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: mine has a new series, Sean McBride Shy and I 902 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: did him moving together called Distinguished Gentlemen he got his 903 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: new sitcom and he said, I gotta get Shirley right, 904 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: and they were like, Shy has asked me if you 905 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: do this show with him, and you know it's small, 906 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just like, when your friends and people call 907 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: you because they've got to have you, the least you 908 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: can say is okay, yes If you want to listen 909 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: to this four interview with Shirley Rapp is available on 910 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations dot com