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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: We're back with another episode discussing the end of.
Speaker 3: The NBA Finals. Number one.
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to all of our subscribers and
Speaker 1: fans who were here a couple of nights ago when
Speaker 1: the Celtics closed out the finals. I am currently out
Speaker 1: of the country and so I was kind of having
Speaker 1: some technical difficulties. I was five am, where I was
Speaker 1: where I am at the time that the game finished,
Speaker 1: and we were going live, And I must tell you
Speaker 1: I am probably equally as pissed off as you were
Speaker 1: because I stayed up till five am to watch a
Speaker 1: blowout and not do a podcast. And quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: probably could have went to bed in the first quarter
Speaker 1: because the writing was on the wall towards the end
Speaker 1: of the first quarter, second quarter, you kind of knew
Speaker 1: the writing was on the wall that the Celtics would
Speaker 1: be we'll get their eighteenth manner that they tried to
Speaker 1: get against the Dubs and didn't work. However, yes, I
Speaker 1: do apologize, and like I said, I was equally as
Speaker 1: upset because then I had to get up at eight
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I tried kind of making this
Speaker 1: thing work till about six o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 1: so it kind of set up the rest of my day. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: I pushed through, and I thank you for your support
Speaker 1: to our lawyer subscribers, thank you. And I do apologize.
Speaker 1: But we're back today and let's get into it. Also,
Speaker 1: we have an interview dropping tomorrow. It'll be a fun interview.
Speaker 1: I'll let you you know who the interview is if
Speaker 1: you stay to the end of this podcast, I'll let
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: The Celtics beat the mass to win the NBA for
Speaker 1: all time NBA leading eighteenth NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP number one.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Boston Celtics. Congratulations to JB on the
Speaker 1: finals MVP. Congratulations to JT on his first NBA championship.
Speaker 3: Of what I do not think is his last.
Speaker 1: Congrass to Drew Holliday on his second NBA championship. Congrats
Speaker 1: to my young Spartan doll who got in and played
Speaker 1: big minutes.
Speaker 3: By the way, hit a.
Speaker 1: Big big three in Game four three, Game three, hit
Speaker 1: a big three. Shout out to my young spark dog
Speaker 1: x Xavier Tillman. Uh you know that's like I said,
Speaker 1: that's my spartan dog is Michigan State. And I received
Speaker 1: a text from Michigan State approving a picture today of
Speaker 1: me with a trophy because we got another champion, and
Speaker 1: the Murals got to come down for the Sparks champions
Speaker 1: they're making new ones.
Speaker 3: And so to see.
Speaker 1: One of my young fellas win a championship, a couple
Speaker 1: of my young fellas win championships, it's absolutely amazing, you know,
Speaker 1: to winness JT after all that he's been going through.
Speaker 1: Like I told you all, I think there's this imaginary clock.
Speaker 1: I know that there's this imaginary clock. I don't think
Speaker 1: that there's imaginary clock. I know that there is the
Speaker 1: way you see it manifest itself with JT is no
Speaker 1: MVP votes average thirty points.
Speaker 3: People won't even mention him in the MVP come station
Speaker 3: won the.
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference by thirty games, no recognition for it, as if,
Speaker 1: like I said, as if he wasn't averaging thirty or
Speaker 1: twenty eight or whatever you average, zero recognition for.
Speaker 3: Why because they start your clock.
Speaker 1: And so for JT, who went to the conference finals
Speaker 1: as a rookie and five conference finals, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: in his first seven years, which this is being here
Speaker 1: just completed year.
Speaker 3: Seven, they started the clock.
Speaker 1: And so then you start to get to year three,
Speaker 1: four and they're looking and they're like, well, you already
Speaker 1: been to the conference finals, so that's not enough.
Speaker 3: They start your clock.
Speaker 1: You see it happen kind of with Treyon where they
Speaker 1: go to the Eastern Conference finals sooner than expected, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, next couple of years they haven't,
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, they need to trade them, they
Speaker 1: need to move on. That's because they start your clock.
Speaker 1: And so for JT to see them start his clock,
Speaker 1: not get the MVP recognition that he deserves and all
Speaker 1: these things, to see him persevere through that and actually
Speaker 1: finish the job going, by the way, with JT, not
Speaker 1: only the conference finals, then in year five you actually
Speaker 1: do the thing right, like you actually get there and
Speaker 1: you lose to a team that obviously we've had the
Speaker 1: success that we've had, but to a team that most
Speaker 1: people said y'all should beat, and in turn they hold.
Speaker 3: It against you.
Speaker 1: So the last two years for him has been just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he make our NBA because he's that good, and like,
Speaker 1: how can you leave him off?
Speaker 3: Like make.
Speaker 1: An all start because he's that good? But like, come on,
Speaker 1: like if you're watching him, like you know, like so
Speaker 1: when I said, like you know, like not the same
Speaker 1: lust love that was there for him before, and so
Speaker 1: like I said, to see a guy persevere through that,
Speaker 1: not make it all about himself to where he sabotages
Speaker 1: the game and try to chase the finals MVP, because
Speaker 1: then we all know what everybody's gonna say that like
Speaker 1: oh yeah you want, but you don't get the finals MVP,
Speaker 1: so you still have something more to prove. Like well,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, US as athletes, we are our biggest critics.
Speaker 1: US as athletes, we are our biggest motivators, and US
Speaker 1: as athletes we do the work so and the standards
Speaker 1: that we have for ourselves it's way higher than what
Speaker 1: people have for us. And so regardless of that. Of course,
Speaker 1: he still has something to prove, you know why, because
Speaker 1: he's a competitor, because he's a champion, and he's in
Speaker 1: year seven. And by the way, the feeling that he's
Speaker 1: going through right now and experiencing.
Speaker 3: Like that high, that cloud that he's rolling through on
Speaker 3: in life.
Speaker 1: In a few weeks he'll go through this space of
Speaker 1: almost a depression.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because.
Speaker 1: For three weeks you kind of ride this wave like
Speaker 1: you ride this wave of like man, every room you
Speaker 1: walk into for the rest of the summer, people going
Speaker 1: to say, what's up, chap, hey, chimp, and you feel
Speaker 1: so great about it because you know the journey that
Speaker 1: you went through to accomplish it.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: You get free meals everywhere you go. You get all
Speaker 1: the perks, all of the perks. You go to the hotel, hotel,
Speaker 1: you usually go to a hotel, you check in for
Speaker 1: the first time, they got your initials on the pillows,
Speaker 1: the sheets, like the stuff that starts happening after you
Speaker 1: win to it's incredible, and then you kind of go
Speaker 1: through this depression.
Speaker 3: Maybe in like three to four weeks.
Speaker 1: JT will be in the Olympics, so it could extend
Speaker 1: for him, but you end up going through this like
Speaker 1: small depression. And no I'm not talking a serious depression
Speaker 1: like people may deal with and I take mental health
Speaker 1: very seriously. But you go through this small depression, and
Speaker 1: what that depression is driven by is, man, that feeling
Speaker 1: felt so good. My biggest fear is now to never
Speaker 1: feel that feeling again. And guess what, in that moment,
Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. You know why,
Speaker 1: because you can't go play the game. So you have
Speaker 1: to like wait like at minimum an entire year. At
Speaker 1: maximum it's infinity. It could go on and on. However,
Speaker 1: that's what you kind of go through. So with JT
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for him because when people go through
Speaker 1: that what he's been going through, they start acting for trades.
Speaker 1: They start acting for guys to be traded. They start saying, man,
Speaker 1: me and jab can't work. And I'm I'm gonna believe
Speaker 1: the narrative that everyone else is pushing and because I
Speaker 1: am Jason Tatum, I'm gonna go try to push him
Speaker 1: out because then that takes what they're saying about me.
Speaker 3: All. He didn't do that. He's still pat right there
Speaker 3: with his.
Speaker 1: Brother and they went and did it, and they got
Speaker 1: the utmost respect for me. I'm happy to see them,
Speaker 1: them brothers win a championship. They got my utmost respect
Speaker 1: because anybody that win it, when you win it, when
Speaker 1: you once you become a champion, I'm like, you got
Speaker 1: my respect.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: There is no more this thing or that thing or
Speaker 1: no you got on my respect, quite frankly, which is
Speaker 1: why I didn't want something to see some teams winning championship,
Speaker 1: because everybody don't deserve my respect. But if you become
Speaker 1: a champion, it's not up to me whether you get
Speaker 1: my respect or not. You took it like you took
Speaker 1: the respect. And so happy to see some guys win
Speaker 1: a championship that AI already respected, but be that like
Speaker 1: you want to respect, because like they should be respected
Speaker 1: to Congratulations to Al Horford, a guy who I've had
Speaker 1: a few battles with and you bump up in the game.
Speaker 1: Never like an issue much respect for him anyway, just
Speaker 1: as a player as a person, but Al has talked
Speaker 1: to his shit at times. His sister get on there
Speaker 1: and talk hers at times, and uh, it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: It gets fun, nonetheless to see how go all these
Speaker 1: years as a two time NCAA champion and then never
Speaker 1: get the experience that high at this level. Keep pushing,
Speaker 1: keep pushing and get through it. Leave Boston, come back
Speaker 1: and do it. Nothing but respect. Congratulations coach Joe Missoula.
Speaker 1: Youngest ever if I'm not mistaken, if not the youngest ever,
Speaker 1: the youngest since Bill Russell since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Congrats coach well deserved. Put the work in.
Speaker 1: Came off of email, getting to a World Championship, getting
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. Sorry, get into the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: losing and then come in and like lose. Oh, lose
Speaker 1: to the Miami Heat after going down three to zh,
Speaker 1: battling back, getting in three to three and then losing
Speaker 1: in seven. Everybody wants your head. Oh, we just went
Speaker 1: to the finals. Everybody start calling for emay back, We
Speaker 1: need e may like. This guy comes and losing the
Speaker 1: first round. Stuck with it, stuck with it. Congrats to them.
Speaker 1: Brian Stevens made the moves that needed to be made.
Speaker 1: Congrats to him. So it's fun to see. I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with JT yesterday, which was a fun conversation
Speaker 1: for me. When you have a relationship with someone, for me,
Speaker 1: like I only want to see.
Speaker 3: Them do well.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I remember going back to the NBA
Speaker 1: Finals in twenty twenty two and I didn't say a
Speaker 1: word to JT. And I think I might have told
Speaker 1: you all this story before. I didn't say a word
Speaker 1: to him, and I didn't say a word because we're
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, like I don't need anything that
Speaker 1: can take me off my square, and like the love
Speaker 1: that I have for that young man right there can
Speaker 1: take me off my square.
Speaker 3: And so I didn't say hi, I didn't say bye.
Speaker 1: I did see Deuce in the hallway a couple of
Speaker 1: times and Moms in the hallway a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and I definitely said hi to them, but I do nothing,
Speaker 1: and to be quite honest with you, because of the relationship,
Speaker 1: because of love that I do have for him.
Speaker 3: It actually was bothering me.
Speaker 1: And it was bothering me because I could actually see
Speaker 1: he didn't know what the hell to think, like first
Speaker 1: time planning in the NBA Finals, so he didn't know
Speaker 1: what to make of it. And it was actually bothering
Speaker 1: me that I could see that, like and the moment
Speaker 1: the game, the moment it finished, and I saw the picture.
Speaker 1: Actually recently I went straight to him and hugged him
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, it's been bothering me
Speaker 1: so much to not talk to you, but now you
Speaker 1: get it, I said, But now you get it. Now
Speaker 1: you now understand what the mindset has to be.
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 1: In order to actually do this, many people get close,
Speaker 1: go to a finals and lose and never go back.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Now you see, I said. And it
Speaker 1: bothered me going through it, but I know I had
Speaker 1: done it three times. I know what it but now
Speaker 1: you can see. And so to see him do that.
Speaker 1: I called him the other day yesterday and he had
Speaker 1: the trophy, smiling ear to ear and he just holds
Speaker 1: the trophy and he said to me, he said, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought this was gonna feel like,
Speaker 1: but whatever I thought, it's way better. Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: even come close to what I actually thought it would
Speaker 1: feel like. And like the thoughts that you have at
Speaker 1: winning the championship are pretty like, it didn't come close
Speaker 1: to what I even thought it feel like like it's
Speaker 1: way more And I just called them number one to
Speaker 1: say congratulations, But number two, I said to him, I
Speaker 1: just need to feel this energy because I know what
Speaker 1: it's like like when you're around someone that just want
Speaker 1: a championship, the vibrations that you catch from them, like
Speaker 1: they are at an all their frequency level is at
Speaker 1: an all time high, like it's just radiating.
Speaker 3: And I called him. I said, I'm just calling to
Speaker 3: tell you congratulations.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, and I also need to feel
Speaker 1: some of that energy, like I just need to feel it,
Speaker 1: like I want to feel that energy right now. And
Speaker 1: he like, man, and we laugh talking on the phone.
Speaker 1: I start yelling like like let's go like and I
Speaker 1: told him, like for when a little brother of mine
Speaker 1: win a championship, I feel like I want a championship
Speaker 1: because to see them experience that, you know, the feeling.
Speaker 1: And I got I got a chance to feel that energy.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like all right bye, like go hire
Speaker 1: your fun. I'm out your hair. I wanted to see
Speaker 1: your face and say congratulations. I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 3: Have fun.
Speaker 1: Like we was on FaceTime. The energy that I felt
Speaker 1: coming through a FaceTime was absolutely amazing, absolutely incredible. So
Speaker 1: I know I just wanted a whole loop. But congrats
Speaker 1: to JT. Congrats to the Boston Celtics. Congrats to JB. Well,
Speaker 1: deserved fun to watch. Now let's get into this podcast
Speaker 1: sight anyway. So when you look at the Boston Celtic seasons, uh,
Speaker 1: this is a team that has their top eight or
Speaker 1: nine guys and their rotation coming back, all under contract,
Speaker 1: and so you start to ask yourself, can this team
Speaker 1: do it again?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Sometimes that can get dicey when you got so many
Speaker 1: guys under contract, because sometimes you can come back when
Speaker 1: you don't get new blood, Like sometimes you win a
Speaker 1: championship and then you get new blood in.
Speaker 3: And when you get the new blood.
Speaker 1: In, they want to feel that feeling, you know, they
Speaker 1: see you get your rings on ring night, like they
Speaker 1: see the banner go up when y'all walking around.
Speaker 3: Every arena you go to, or or.
Speaker 1: Maybe not every arena you go to, but definitely every game,
Speaker 1: your whole arena, you're defending champions like you hear that.
Speaker 1: And so when you get new blood and they want
Speaker 1: to feel that too, they want to experience that. And
Speaker 1: sometimes that can drive you because then, like once you
Speaker 1: win your first one, it becomes like the through these
Speaker 1: championships what you appreciate most of the but once you
Speaker 1: get your first one, the best part about getting the
Speaker 1: next one is seeing the guys that get it for
Speaker 1: the first time and how they react, because then what
Speaker 1: it does for you is it takes you back mentally
Speaker 1: to your first time and how you reacted, and it's
Speaker 1: very interesting to watch. I've enjoyed that part of the process.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they're bringing their.
Speaker 3: Top eight back.
Speaker 1: And like I said, which sometimes can get a little tricky,
Speaker 1: because I'll just be completely and honest with you, they
Speaker 1: won't be as hungry for They won't be as hungry
Speaker 1: for another for the next championship as they was for
Speaker 1: the first championship. It's just not a realistic thing now,
Speaker 1: not saying to you they won't be hungry and their
Speaker 1: goal coming into next season won't be to win the
Speaker 1: championship again.
Speaker 3: Of course that's going to be their goal.
Speaker 1: But to think that you we're gonna have the same
Speaker 1: hunger for your first million dollars as opposed to your
Speaker 1: second million dollars, it's not the same now. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you're not hungry, but it's not driven from the same place, right,
Speaker 1: It doesn't come from the same place what it is
Speaker 1: for the competitors, for those that are seeking greatness and
Speaker 1: want to be great.
Speaker 3: You find different things to continue to push you.
Speaker 1: But nobody ever said, oh man, I got my first
Speaker 1: million dollars, I gotta get the next two doing it
Speaker 1: the same way.
Speaker 3: No, it don't.
Speaker 1: You feel a little better after the first one. You
Speaker 1: feel a little more accomplished after the first one.
Speaker 3: And so they're bringing all eight.
Speaker 1: Guys back in their top eight of their rotation, which
Speaker 1: I think is great because it does put you in
Speaker 1: the space.
Speaker 3: So can we compete for multiple championships? Now? Can we
Speaker 3: be the first team in seven years to go back
Speaker 3: to back? And we do that?
Speaker 1: I think in the history there's like eleven teams that's
Speaker 1: went back to back or something like that. Can we
Speaker 1: be that next one? You know, when you look at
Speaker 1: this Boston Celsis team, they had like blank banners up
Speaker 1: in their practice facility and like their whole talk for
Speaker 1: the last X amount of years has been getting bannered
Speaker 1: eighteen number one.
Speaker 3: You all know, I don't like the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: Y'all fans are rude, and I dislike y'all because y'all
Speaker 1: are assholes to me when I was there for the finals,
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget it, And so I don't like y'all. However,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night. For a franchise
Speaker 1: in the NBA, to like publicize how much they're going
Speaker 1: after Banner eighteen is crazy, Like that's not standard practicing
Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's just not They actually did it.
Speaker 1: I got nothing but respect for that. A lot of
Speaker 1: people will tell you gotta go. Don't tell nobody because
Speaker 1: they try to tear it down. They kept telling us
Speaker 1: our goal, we gotta get better eighteen and number eighteen,
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen, and they actually went and did it. And
Speaker 1: if you can't respect that, I can't respect that. So
Speaker 1: if you can't respect that, I'm sorry, but I can't
Speaker 1: respect you because that is the definition of standing on
Speaker 1: what you speak on, standing on business. However you want
Speaker 1: to break it down, that is it. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what I want. I'm telling you I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, I'm gonna get it. I
Speaker 1: went and look, I did it. I got it. I
Speaker 1: got nothing but respect for that. So I think he
Speaker 1: could get a little dicey. I think one thing that
Speaker 1: you could see is like this team is really good,
Speaker 1: but like in the regular season, it may not be
Speaker 1: as great. You know, they ran through the regular season
Speaker 1: this year. Sometimes you see a team like this come
Speaker 1: back and they fall to the three or something like that.
Speaker 1: For seed, doesn't mean they can't win a championship. By
Speaker 1: the way, I said all of that to say, I
Speaker 1: do think this team is set up to compete for
Speaker 1: multiple titles. When you talk about a potential dynasty, I
Speaker 1: don't quite see that happening because I think we got
Speaker 1: new rules, and we got a second apron and all
Speaker 1: of those things, and like JT contract ain't kicked in yet,
Speaker 1: his new big deal that he gonna get by the way,
Speaker 1: that man gonna get four hundred million dollars or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Very close to it.
Speaker 1: Those things haven't kicked in yet, and so when those
Speaker 1: deals start to kick in, you start.
Speaker 3: To hit that second apron, it just changes things.
Speaker 1: And I think, quite frankly, with those rules being in,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll ever see another dynasty, but.
Speaker 3: Right now they have a chance quickly to build it.
Speaker 1: I think people start calling us a dynasty when we
Speaker 1: won three, and so they got a chance to do
Speaker 1: it quickly. Though quickly doesn't get done, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think these new rules makes it a lot
Speaker 1: lot tougher to do. However, just like when we was
Speaker 1: able to and hance our team on what has started
Speaker 1: off great and we were doing great and doing big things,
Speaker 1: we were able to hance our team and add Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant because there was a salary cap spike. Well, guess
Speaker 1: what's coming up next year, guys a new TV deal
Speaker 1: just like twenty sixteen, and so who knows how it
Speaker 1: plays out, but they definitely have a chance to do it.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. On the Dallas side, they are also
Speaker 1: bringing back most of their guys that's under contract that
Speaker 1: were key contributors, but they lost. And so when you lost,
Speaker 1: you didn't go in to the summer like, ah, what's
Speaker 1: that one piece that we needed to get over that hunt?
Speaker 1: And the mindset is just totally different, by the way,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the get that one piece that you think
Speaker 1: you need, you have to give up a piece of two.
Speaker 3: And it just doesn't look the same. You know it could,
Speaker 3: but sometimes.
Speaker 1: It doesn't, you know, And so that's kind of the situation,
Speaker 1: you know, the space that where Dallas sits or you
Speaker 1: could say, you know what, we were right there, only
Speaker 1: played together five months, give it another year together and
Speaker 1: like this team can really do it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I've you know, I've become very
Speaker 1: friendly with Mark Cuban.
Speaker 3: I actually fucking love Mark.
Speaker 1: He's a great person and we talked about it on
Speaker 1: the podcast. But Mark really pissed me off when he
Speaker 1: tests me, when he when he said out in no
Speaker 1: business and told me I need to go to Kelly
Speaker 1: Business School.
Speaker 3: However, getting like speaking.
Speaker 1: With him, and you know it came on the pod
Speaker 1: and I actually like Mark a lot and Nico, Uh, Nico,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I know though I know Nico
Speaker 1: and Mark like those guys go after it like and
Speaker 1: so they're never going to be satisfied with making it
Speaker 1: to the NBA finals. Like Marcus, Mark Cuban has become
Speaker 1: who he's become because he just presses, presses pressed.
Speaker 3: It's like that's who he is.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he's not about to double
Speaker 1: down like whatever he feels needs to be that next
Speaker 1: move him and Nico, he'll make it.
Speaker 4: And so a lot of Paul George rumers already.
Speaker 1: Paul George rumors. I'm sure other rumors will start popping up.
Speaker 1: I has saw Clay rumors like you know, you start
Speaker 1: to see different rumors for sure. But one thing we
Speaker 1: know for certain, though Jackson is Mark Cuban is not
Speaker 1: one that's afraid to swing.
Speaker 3: He will take this one. I mean, he swung Kyrie Irvan.
Speaker 1: You know, Nico loud, Nico to trust his instinct, trust
Speaker 1: what he know, and they Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3: It was huge for the Dallas matters.
Speaker 1: They're not in the NBA Finals and Kyrie isn't there,
Speaker 1: you know, so we know they'll swing. So you know,
Speaker 1: it makes for an interesting time, makes for a good
Speaker 1: rematch on Christmas Day because I think our Christmas Day
Speaker 1: game would definitely be a rematch with Luca and j
Speaker 1: T and JB and Kyrie, and I think you know.
Speaker 3: In Boston, uh, you know so so we can see that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, nonetheless, that's kind of my take or how
Speaker 1: where I sit on the thoughts of both teams after
Speaker 1: the championship. You know, I asked you all the questions,
Speaker 1: can they do it again? Quite frankly, I don't think
Speaker 1: they can do it again next year. So I think
Speaker 1: the Dove's gonna do it again next year. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I stand on that. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on in the NBA since that though.
Speaker 1: Number one, I saw something that come across my screen
Speaker 1: that said, Pascal Siakam got one hundred and ninety million
Speaker 1: dollars eighty nine and a half or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: one eight nine and a half.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to a guy.
Speaker 1: I remember playing Pascal his rookie year and he was
Speaker 1: just kind of long or first or second year long,
Speaker 1: and like springy, you know, but he wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: And then like the next year he just got way better,
Speaker 1: and then the following year got way better.
Speaker 3: And he just continued to get better.
Speaker 1: So to see guys put that work in on where
Speaker 1: they started at, I always loved that. Didn't come in
Speaker 1: everybody thinking he's going to be what he's been and
Speaker 1: yet getting another MAX contract. So congratulations to Pascal, well deserved,
Speaker 1: my brother. More news in the NBA, Mini Williams got
Speaker 1: fired by the Detroit Pistons after one season. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: Minnie Williams on getting fired by the Detroit Pistons after
Speaker 1: season one.
Speaker 3: He get to go home and be with his family
Speaker 3: and pulling sixty.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he got five years sixty five left,
Speaker 1: so he had to pull in sixty five million dollars
Speaker 1: over the next five years while not coaching the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 1: How crazy is that to hire somebody for an all
Speaker 1: time contract in NBA history and fired him the next year.
Speaker 1: You didn't even get a guy a chance to like
Speaker 1: actually build what what you thought he could build when
Speaker 1: you hired him for six years. You signed him to
Speaker 1: six years. You signed someone in six years. You can't
Speaker 1: possibly think year one. That's like, oh, it's everything shaded,
Speaker 1: Like you need time to instill culture.
Speaker 3: Culture isn't built overnight. And so I would love to
Speaker 3: say I was shocked.
Speaker 1: I was the least bit shocked, actually, because you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up in the state of Michigan, and you
Speaker 1: know Joe Dumars isn't with the Pistons anymore, and so
Speaker 1: it's just been interesting ever since. So as shocked as
Speaker 1: I am, not shocked at all. But congratulations to Minnie Williams.
Speaker 1: Sixty five million coming your way to sit at the
Speaker 1: crib and not have to coach, I mean, not coach
Speaker 1: the Detroit Pissons. Minnie Williams is now on the free
Speaker 1: agent market, and I know that the Los Angeles Lakers
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what's going on?
Speaker 1: But I know something's gonna happen fast, because you got
Speaker 1: the draft coming up, you got free agency coming up.
Speaker 1: Like it's been quite a while, and like I don't
Speaker 1: know what exactly is going on, but like something's going on.
Speaker 1: And I know Anthony Davis loved Money Williams when he
Speaker 1: played for him at New Orleans. So you ask yourself
Speaker 1: and should So you ask yourself, should the Lakers consider
Speaker 1: Minnie Williams? And I said, of course, you gotta consider him,
Speaker 1: especially with that tie, you definitely gotta consider him. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: congratulations to Minnie Williams. Also in NBA news, Sir Charles
Speaker 1: the Great Charles Barkley says he's retiring from broadcasting that
Speaker 1: next season. Absolutely love Charles Barkley. You all know where
Speaker 1: our journey started. Our journey did not start in a
Speaker 1: great place. Chuck used to sit on TV and say
Speaker 1: he's gonna punch me in my face. He called me
Speaker 1: mister tripple single. He's had his fresh share of jabs
Speaker 1: and I've had my fresh air at jabs as well.
Speaker 1: And nonetheless, I absolutely loved that brother. And he is incredible.
Speaker 1: He is amazing. And if he retires, what a sad
Speaker 1: day from NBA basketball. Like, I mean, we've all got
Speaker 1: a custom grown a customer hearing that voice from the
Speaker 1: last twenty seven years talk NBA basketball, So what a
Speaker 1: sad day for NBA basketball. Whenever Chuck decides to retire, However,
Speaker 1: I just think Chuck's being very emotional.
Speaker 3: I don't think Chuck's about to retire.
Speaker 1: I think Chuck's just in a very emotional state right now,
Speaker 1: and he's processing those emotions. And you know, one day
Speaker 1: you may wake up and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm out of here. While you're processing those.
Speaker 1: Emotions, and then you go a couple of days, maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, maybe even a couple of months,
Speaker 1: because this decision doesn't have to be made today, tomorrow
Speaker 1: or the next day, and then you probably come to
Speaker 1: your sistance and be like, I'm not retiring. What was
Speaker 1: I thinking about? But you never really come back and
Speaker 1: tell people I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
Speaker 1: You kind of just go along with and then you
Speaker 1: move on to the next thing. And that is what
Speaker 1: I expect from Chuck. I expect Chuck to never come
Speaker 1: back and tell us I was tripping. I'm not retiring.
Speaker 1: I'm moving on to the next thing. But we will
Speaker 1: all watch him gracefully move on to the next thing,
Speaker 1: by the way, whether that is another year at Turnham
Speaker 1: because Turner kept the rights, or you know, we don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen with that thing. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna even sit here and speak hypotheticals. The point
Speaker 1: I'm making is I think Chuck was just in his feelings,
Speaker 1: and as great as he is at times, we all
Speaker 1: can get a little bit of our feelings and get
Speaker 1: those starts twisted and not quite processed them in the
Speaker 1: way we thought that we would process them. And that
Speaker 1: is quite frankly, what I think Chuck is going through
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think Chuck is retiring. I hope
Speaker 1: Chuck don't retire. Chuck is absolutely incredible. We all love Chuck,
Speaker 1: even the ones that tend to hate or think they
Speaker 1: hate him.
Speaker 3: You go listen because we all love to hear what
Speaker 3: he has to say.
Speaker 1: And even when he would say that team is a
Speaker 1: jump shooting team and they never gonna win a championship.
Speaker 1: Jump shooting teams don't win a championships, and all of
Speaker 1: those things when Chuck used to say. We made Chuck
Speaker 1: look like he didn't know what the hell he was
Speaker 1: talking about. I still will watch and you still wanted
Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say. So what a
Speaker 1: sad day that would be. And I hope that that's
Speaker 1: not the case. If that is the case, we will
Speaker 1: do it properly. But it's been a job well done, sir.
Speaker 1: It's been an absolutely incredible pleasure to turn on TNT
Speaker 1: and here, Sir Chius make fun of people, talk great
Speaker 1: about people, but more importantly, entertain us like we had
Speaker 1: never been entertained during the basketball show in the history
Speaker 1: of this game that we love, this league that we
Speaker 1: love known.
Speaker 3: As the NBA.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think Chuck's going anywhere, but if
Speaker 1: he is, much love to Chuck, he's been absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: That's a rap from this episode of the Draymond Greenshaw.
Speaker 1: I told you if you stayed until this point, I
Speaker 1: will let you you know who we have tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, we have a guy.
Speaker 1: That another guy that beat me in the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: which I'm not too happy about. This guy actually made
Speaker 1: one of the calls in which we will talk about
Speaker 1: on the episode so please check it out. But he
Speaker 1: made a call defensively that was like adolescents played this defense.
Speaker 1: No one in the NBA at the time plays this
Speaker 1: defense like you play this defense in like seventh grade
Speaker 1: when a kid is like really good, or maybe even
Speaker 1: tenth grade, when a kid is really good and you
Speaker 1: can't stop them, and you're like, we're going to this thing,
Speaker 1: And like this guy, fucking Nick Nurse, who's our guest
Speaker 1: on the next show, decides to go to this defense
Speaker 1: in the NBA finals.
Speaker 3: And it actually crushed us. It worked.
Speaker 1: A defense that you use in childhood games worked, and
Speaker 1: he made that call. He had it in him to
Speaker 1: make that call, and in turn, he became a first
Speaker 1: time NBA champion. We got Nick Nurse on the show.
Speaker 1: Make sure you all tuned in. That will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Please don't miss it. It was a great interview. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Speaker 1: But until then, well excuse me until next time. That's
Speaker 1: a rap from this episode of the Draymond Green show.
Speaker 3: Peace the Volume