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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Oh what a big day? This is?

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Speaker 1: How big of a day is it? Mickey Spagnola, Baseball's

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Speaker 1: opening tiger teed off this morning and and he parked

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Speaker 1: the first hole he did. He did it that And

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Speaker 1: we are now how many weeks away? Three? Three weeks

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Speaker 1: away from day one of the twenty twenty two National

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Speaker 1: Football League Draft. This is Mick Shots. Bill Jones on

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Speaker 1: the line, you take it too long? Bill? Whose voice is, hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're not here, you're you're your third out of mind?

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Speaker 1: That's right? Who is that? Bill Jones? Mickey Spagnola inside

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Speaker 1: phone line is Everson Walls. Hello, you know you mis me?

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Speaker 1: You know you missed me. I miss you guys too.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it, man, I'm man enough to say that.

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Speaker 1: You know I had stuff for you, but now I

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Speaker 1: got to keep it for another week. Oh cool. Cool.

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Speaker 1: You can stew on that, you can grant when I

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Speaker 1: get back. No, you're gonna stew on it because I'm

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Speaker 1: not telling you what I had for you. It's but

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Speaker 1: I have something for Bill. By the way, we have

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Speaker 1: our Dallas Cowboys Official twenty twenty two Draft Guide. You

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Speaker 1: think there's more information inside than the Green Green, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're about to find out. You don't have any pictures

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's why the Big Green Notebook cannot

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Speaker 1: handwriting inside it. So some type of a William hieroglyphics.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. So it's the

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Speaker 1: official twenty twenty two Dallas Cowboys Draft Guide right here.

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Speaker 1: And where can we find these drafts? Well, you would ask, ye,

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Speaker 1: got that information somewhere here in all my notes. Uh

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Speaker 1: So if you would like one, Uh, you can find

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Speaker 1: the direct link for the digital issue. Uh boy, it's

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Speaker 1: a long deal. You can go to twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: So you can get it on email, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram

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Speaker 1: I told you it was involved. Okay, all right, so

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Speaker 1: do that? All right? So our visit Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: com slash star. Okay, Mickey's had his time ever since.

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Speaker 1: How are things going with you? Everything is great, guys.

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Speaker 1: I have been extremely busy, and I think also I

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Speaker 1: almost thought I had, as the young people say, the VID,

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Speaker 1: the vid. Yes, that's what they called. You got the VID? No,

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Speaker 1: I do not. But now I actually took the test

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Speaker 1: and everything. I was kind of nervous though I had

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Speaker 1: been down for the cow far about a week strong.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Mickey? I'm good, rare to go, rare

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Speaker 1: to go, twenty one days away from that. Excited about

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Speaker 1: all these moves that are happening here behind the scenes. Yeah. Absolutely. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the visits started this week, that's right. Uh. They did

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Speaker 1: their thirty National Visits. Guys been coming in daily, so

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Speaker 1: Uh no, whatever they're doing, it's inside the Ford Center

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Speaker 1: Mickey's walking around the Star with this week with this

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Speaker 1: Stefan was already in there. Yes, okay, twenty six million

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Speaker 1: I just called it up. He's at thirty nine million

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Speaker 1: So the top five quarterbacks their average their contracts Rogers

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. The only news of this week. Keyan O'Neil. Yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Yes, yes, yes, so, meaning that

424
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: his price tag was going to even though he didn't

425
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: have the same stats here as jay Ron did. Jay

426
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: Ron obviously had a better season stats wise, Keanu Neil's

427
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: price tag was still where he wanted it to be

428
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah and absolutely so. Yeah, it was so the market

429
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: was not there for Keyoni. Yeah, that was another one

430
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: they lost that they weren't going to bring back. You know,

431
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I keep reading the Cowboys loss Connor Williams and Lale Collins.

432
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: They weren't bringing Connor Williams back, right, And it was

433
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: their choice to get rid of Lale Collins. I would

434
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: say they weren't bringing Lale Collins back either, right exactly

435
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: because they would have been. I mean, they couldn't trade there.

436
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: They're taking a bigger hit on Lale Collins as far

437
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: as their money situation goes. But it was there. It's

438
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: their choice, their choice. Yeah, that's why I said where

439
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I started with this with Amari, those are two more

440
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: they better be right, like you better be able to

441
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: replace them with somebody that could at least play as well.

442
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: So they made the decision on Lele Collins that for

443
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: what he was going to cost, they were better off

444
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: with Terrence Steele starting at right tackle. Okay, so by

445
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: by them getting rid of Lyle Colin and Connor william

446
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: So what do what do the tea leaves say about that?

447
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: People somewhere in the first two rounds they need an

448
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I think I wasn't. I wasn't that far off.

449
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm tipped around off then in regard so

450
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: salary cap guru, how are they sitting at the cap

451
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: right now? Um, they're fine, And they don't get Lele

452
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: Collins based salary until June one, right, so, but they

453
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: do have dead money for him this year and next year.

454
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I think it's five this year, eight next year. So

455
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves I expect a veteran interior offensive

456
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: lineman to be signed yes free agency at some point,

457
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and it might it might be before the draft, it

458
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: might be after the draft. I was going to say,

459
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: at one point, you do you think that's going to happen.

460
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: I think I think like tight end, it might look

461
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: at it and say, okay, let's see what we get

462
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: and then what we can do after the draft. But

463
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I think to not cause yourself to reach at the

464
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: guard position, you bring in a veteran beforehand, somebody on

465
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: a one year deal, no more than two years, that

466
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: is capable of starting, but doesn't have to start. If

467
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: you get somebody that beats them out, and you don't

468
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: have to follow the money and say well, we paid

469
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: them all this, he's got to start. See. I think

470
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: that there there are probably two three veteran offensive line

471
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: interior offensive linemen out there in free agency that Joe

472
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: Philbin likes, and there may be at different price rangers

473
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: right now. And it may be if one of those

474
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: guys has an offer from another team before the draft

475
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: and they and they say, Okay, we like him this much.

476
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: It's not going to cost us that much. We'll go

477
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: ahead and make this signing before the draft. They could,

478
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: they would do it. But if they're good, okay, go

479
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: sign with Green Bay or wherever you know. Right, we'll

480
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: wait and there may be somebody at a higher price

481
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: range that they see what they're doing at the draft,

482
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: what they're able to get at the draft. If they're

483
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: not able to fill that position in the draft, then

484
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: they go get that guy after the draft. So look

485
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: at what they did at defensive end. They brought in

486
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler on a one year deal, not costing him

487
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: much at all. So you that doesn't preclude you from

488
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: drafting a defensive end. So to me, when they get

489
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: to twenty four and if they're not moving around wide receiver,

490
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: defensive end, offensive lineman. I think those three positions at

491
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: this point have to be their priority. Depending on the

492
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: talent is what is their bigger need on the offensive

493
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: line in the draft, which I'm talking if I have

494
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: my druthers. My druthers are an offensive tackle who can

495
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: play guard and eventually move to tackle in a year

496
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: or two if I need it. And again that's why

497
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I did the little thing on following the money. You know,

498
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: the difference between what guards get played and what offensive

499
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: tackles get paid is significantly different, five million dollars different

500
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: in the average. So that tells you where the value is.

501
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: So to me and I keep seeing the center thing.

502
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. If the guy is a can he

503
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: play guard or center? Most of them can, or I

504
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: mean most of them. You if you're not playing, I

505
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: mean you're you're you're not the same player, but you

506
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: can fill in and you know, and they can live with.

507
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: He's under size, I would say he's a center. I

508
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: mean he's under three hundred pounds, right, and so that's

509
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: very small what I read about, it's small for a

510
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: center with that he had trouble with big defensive tackles. Well,

511
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: are you going to bring him you're already got that.

512
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: You got that at at center already, right, So don't

513
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: bring in another guy that's going to have the same thing.

514
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: You know everybody's talking about. Way he was the Rimmington

515
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Award winner, well so was Beadih by the way, and

516
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: he's only played two seasons and he started full time one.

517
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: So to me, I'm willing to give him some leeway

518
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: as another year as the starter. But I gotta find in.

519
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: If somebody's better than Connor McGovern, then I got to

520
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: find somebody that can play guard. But I just don't

521
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: want a guard guard. I want a tackle who can

522
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: play guard because I need him. Sort of the way

523
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Lele Collins did at the beginning of his career, the

524
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: way Flozell Adams did the beginning of his career, the

525
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: way Solomon Page did at the beginning of his career.

526
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: These guys went inside before they went outside, and they

527
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: were extremely inexperienced as well. If you look at it right,

528
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: you're exactly at the end of the season, big time

529
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: we're getting You know I was fussing about it, isn't it.

530
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: We know, poor man Rush giving us credit a pressure,

531
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: consistent pressure, especially towards the lady. Part of the season

532
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: where we really needed them to come through and give

533
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: us some time and give us that luxury of even

534
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: mclock and I advantage. We just never could do that.

535
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: And seeing the other thing that stuck out to me,

536
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: and I'm probably going to write about it tomorrow in

537
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: my column is Stephen Jones. When he was talking about

538
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: drafting offensive linemen, and I can't remember if I mentioned

539
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: this last week or not, so stop me if I did.

540
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: He pointed out that it's very difficult these days to

541
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: project college offensive linemen into the NFL because of the

542
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: way college offenses are run. And so to me, that

543
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: would give you pause because they're not running the football

544
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: in college. They're basically throwing almost every down. And when

545
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: I start reading about some of this stuff, these guys

546
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: are good pass blockers, but they're weak against in run blocking.

547
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: So when he said that, to me, that almost seems

548
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: to give him pause on taking a first round offensive

549
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: lineman and maybe waiting to the second round. So if

550
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, your loss is not as big

551
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: as failing. I mean, think about all the offensive tackles

552
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: that have failed lately in the first round. Right, there's

553
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that they drafted and they haven't

554
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: done anything. And it's because the game is so different

555
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, even a few experienced offensive lineman

556
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: themselves tackles. I was I was disappointed with the signing

557
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: of when Kansas City picked up the guy with the

558
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: brown and they that's the left tackle. Remember after the

559
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when Tample just really rough shot over the

560
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: whole offensive line. Yeah, because it was all backups, right, Yeah, Well,

561
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he did much better. Uh, I think

562
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: they signed Uh, I can't. I just can't remember that.

563
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: It was that they signed a Brown and they brought

564
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: him in at the free the signing the next year,

565
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: um to help protect my homes backside. It didn't. I

566
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: don't think it wasn't much Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown, good piece.

567
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Sooner which, by the way, speaking of the Sooner, I

568
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: see that on this list I found online of people

569
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: visiting here. Yeah, Perry on Winfree. Oh really, yes, I

570
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: would love him on this team. That tells you a lot.

571
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Talk to him about who that was the guy we

572
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: saw last week this highlight filed when he made that tackle?

573
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Was it last week here? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? It was

574
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: with us? Yeah, right, that was on the Blitz. It

575
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: was on the Blitz. Yeah. Perry On Winfrey, defensive lineman

576
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. He was a Senior Bowl MVP. He he

577
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: just ate everybody up at the Senior Bowl. I mean

578
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: in workouts, drills, one on ones, in the game everything.

579
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I think he had a couple of sacks in the game.

580
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: And it's a testament to why I'm elated that there's

581
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff at Oklahoma because they didn't they

582
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: didn't even use this guy like they making a tackle.

583
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: First round talent and go ahead, I was gonna say.

584
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: They showed him making a tackle when we were taping

585
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: and he comes out of nowhere and just it was

586
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: like a mack truck ran into this guy. And I'm

587
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: going that had to And I asked Bill, I go

588
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: where did he played linebacker? And he goes, no, he's

589
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. I think I saw that, guys, I

590
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: think I saw and I think he had a really

591
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: good Pro Day workout. Also, by the way, well he's

592
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: one of those guys that you know if he if

593
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: he actually hits you, actually like flight you and half

594
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: if he goes he is he's a decleaner. He is

595
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: there you go there. He's six or two hundred ninety

596
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: pounds with thirty five thirty five inch arms. Ran at

597
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: two hundred ninety pounds, ran a four eight nine forty

598
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: with a one sixty eight ten yards split. Last year

599
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and eleven games, he had eleven tackles for

600
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: loss in five and a half sacks twenty twenty nine games,

601
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: only half a sack, which is to my point. That

602
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: to my point, okay, why aren't they using this guy?

603
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: He was a juco transfer from Iowa Western Community College

604
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: his first two years of college, but he was anyway,

605
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: so he's kind of a late bloomer type there, but

606
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: only twenty one years old. He didn't turn twenty two

607
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: until August. And this guy, he will not only light

608
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: up a running back or a quarterback, he will light

609
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: up a room too. He's got that kind of a

610
00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: personality where he is really fun. I mean, his enthusiast

611
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: climbed up. You know, Daniel Jeremiah has him as his

612
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: forty fifth ranked player in the draft, So that's middle

613
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: of the second round. Hold it right there, Y gil

614
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Brandt just came out with his top one hundred and

615
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: he had him forty eight Okay, so middle of the

616
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: second round is what they're saying. And so we'll see

617
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: Gil's description of him was another big defensive lineman with

618
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: good speed. Mentioned the four point eight ninety Winfrey finished

619
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: second among sooners and tackles for a losses eleven, and

620
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: third in sacks with five and a half. So anyway,

621
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: when I saw his name come up on that list,

622
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: I've gone, yeah, bring that guy on. All right, So defensive, Okay,

623
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have drafted the last couple of years. Well,

624
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma two years ago in the

625
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: third round, last year in the third round, OsO Digga Zua.

626
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: And they are three technique types. Okay, So where does

627
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Winfrey fit in then? Well, I bet he could play

628
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: at that size, he'd be a nice one technique and

629
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: they kind of played both of them kind of the same.

630
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got I think he's got enough athleticism

631
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: he could actually play a strong side defensive end kind

632
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: in a run situation whatever, in slide inside as well.

633
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I think he's I think there's probably from five technique

634
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: to zero technique. He could play all along the defensive

635
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: line myself at that size and the way he ran

636
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you the same answer I did when I

637
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: was promoting Parsons and somebody asked me where does he play?

638
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: And I said, on the field. Just put him out there,

639
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: let's go. You know, when we were at our best,

640
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: though we have looked like a bunch of hybrids out there.

641
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, we were at our bet Uh that worked

642
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: for so a certain situations. It's good for you. So

643
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: I want to start running the ball. You know, obviously

644
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: we started getting isolatedn't that's where you you know, your

645
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: your words reigned true spec Nola. You know, yeah, but

646
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: then you got a three hundred pounds out that. Yeah,

647
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, all right, and you're basically you were right

648
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: in the end. You were right because all of those

649
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: guys that we had on that line, they never could

650
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: stand up to the pounding that the eventual you know,

651
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: kings late in the season. So we've we've mentioned the

652
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: importance of a wide receiver. We've mentioned the importance of

653
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: an offensive lightman by the way, for sure bringing in uh.

654
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: They brought in uh Trey Line Burke of Arkansas the

655
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and also Chris is an alive UH. He

656
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: came in also for a visit and with offensive guards

657
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green and Zion Johnson Boston College. I believe it is.

658
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: And they did bring in Jordan Davis, the defensive tackle

659
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: from Georgia who basically disrupted that game. Right, Oh wellie,

660
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: he ran forty eight two six six three. I got

661
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: him down with a four seven eight at the combine.

662
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, Okay, four seven eight was his best. Yeah,

663
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: all right, all right, get this, Everson, This guy, Jordan Davis,

664
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: number ninety nine for Georgia, first team All American and

665
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: by the way, Daniel Jeremiah has him as the number

666
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: one defensive tackle and number seventeen overall. All right, six six,

667
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: three hundred forty one pounds and ran a four seven

668
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: eight forty three hundred and forty one pounds. I ran

669
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: a four seven eight with a thirty two vertical and

670
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: a ten three broad. Jem, I thought I should somebody

671
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: somebody wrote it by him. Yeah, at three forty one.

672
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: But you know what he's played at three to sixty. Okay,

673
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You look at that

674
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Georgia defense and Kirby Smarts defense was so good. Hey,

675
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: that was that was lunch back, all right. They not

676
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: only have Jordan Davis as an interior guy. But Devonte Wyatt,

677
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: right is another guy who I love, and he's gotten

678
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: this Gil Brandt list too. Right, and Devonte Wyatt Jordan

679
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Davis number ninety nine, Davonte Wyatt number ninety five, and

680
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: Jeremiah's got him listed as the number two defensive tackle,

681
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: number twenty nine overall. He ran a four to seven

682
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: seven at three hundred four pounds, and he had twenty

683
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: seven quarterback hits, thirty nine tackles, seven tackles for loss

684
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: in fourteen games at Georgia this year. All right. Then

685
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: they've also got Treyvon Walker, who number forty four, who's

686
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: probably going to be the second pick in the draft

687
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: as an edge. He's sixty five, two hundred and seventy

688
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: pounds and he they reused him at Georgia all along

689
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: the defensive line. He played on the edge. There are

690
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: times where he ran. He played as a nose as well. Um,

691
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: all right, And then it gotten to Kobe Dean, the

692
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: linebacker who if if if teams valued line inside linebackers more,

693
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: he would be up there in the top half of

694
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, he may be the best

695
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: player on the team all right. But you look at

696
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: the Georgia defense and I go back to the Cowboys

697
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: teams of the nineties. What was the strength of the

698
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys defenses in the nineties, Mickey, The defensive lineman, position,

699
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: what positions? What what position group? Was the best on

700
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: that defense? Tea line? Because they can rotate exactly. So

701
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: why is that? Why is that, George? Why was that

702
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: Georgia defense so good? It's what they had up front

703
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. Does that translate anymore with the

704
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: NFL out? I believe it. I believe it does, especially

705
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: when you can get big guys to move like that

706
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: and they don't have to be just two down lineman,

707
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: they don't have to come out on nickel. You leave

708
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: them on the field and you don't get pushed around,

709
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and you know, we can go back and and remember that,

710
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: you know this defense was not solidified last year. I mean,

711
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: they got room to grow. So you'd be fine with

712
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: drafting number ninety nine, Jordan Davis, number twenty four overall

713
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: or number ninety five. Devanty I no. Number eight. Perry

714
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: On Winfrey, Yes, number eight. He ever said he wore eight.

715
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: That's why I thought it was. I just thought I

716
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: just thought he looks you know, it makes them look small.

717
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: It's really weird. Just bring me a player, you know,

718
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: and don't get carried away with this position. I'm yeah,

719
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: you're talking my language. Right. There's enough knee on this team.

720
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Get the best player there that you can use exactly,

721
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
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760
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Speaker 1: phone lines work outside of Eversin's lot, if weally you

761
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,680
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762
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: ever since on the phone and a tester, and we

763
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Speaker 1: have Jasmine Jasmine sitting in for Chris Beam this week.

764
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: And what's that phone number again at eight eight eight

765
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven. For those of us

766
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: who are slow, say it again eight eight eight five

767
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: five two two nine seven eight five five still works

768
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: with Troy Aikman and Star like Leroy Jorde, We'll go,

769
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Leroy Jordan King, We'll go. So twenty two ninety seven,

770
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: what do you want to go with? You want to?

771
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's there's a couple of twenty two.

772
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: Bob he's a Rimmett. Yeah, okay, And then are you

773
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: going with ninety seven? Uh, come on Jones, right, Jimmy Jones.

774
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jones, Jimmy Jones, or Leroy Glover, Jason Hatcher, Jason Hatcher. There, Oh,

775
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. So so everything's going

776
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: with Jason Hatcher. So um by the way, Uh, I

777
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: looked at some of the top signings the Cowboys had

778
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence being not in this group. Okay, that was

779
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: one they had to get done, right. Uh. Jerry Jones

780
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: said that was a pri already bringing back to Marcus Lawrence.

781
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: And they did so and save money against the cap.

782
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: They saved thirteen million dollars against the cap. The way

783
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: they structured his contract and the reason he did it,

784
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: everybody says he took a pay cut. Basically, they guaranteed

785
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: him thirty million dollars more than he had guaranteed on

786
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: his original previous contract, and the thing was worth thirty million,

787
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: so they basically guaranteed he was out of guarantees on

788
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: his other contract. So that's what enticed him to sign

789
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: the deal that he did. But I looked at they

790
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: ended up bringing back eight guys and in no particular order.

791
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz counts in there, okay, and his cap pit

792
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: for the franchise tag, which still can be adjusted, was

793
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: ten point nine million. Then they also brought back Layton

794
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: vandrus Dorrence Armstrong. They signed h James Washing to the

795
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: veteran exception deal, brought back Jay Ron Curse, They signed

796
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Brian Anger, and brought back Carlos Watkins on

797
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: the veteran exception. So if you add up those eight

798
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: cap hits, they ended up with eight guys for a

799
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: total of twenty six point three million dollars. So that's

800
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: people said, what did they do in free agency? Well,

801
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: that's what they did in free agency. Now did you

802
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: include Watkins on that? Carlos Watkins? Noah Brown? I didn't.

803
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: I um and so nine guys and you just add

804
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: another million dollars to it? Yeah, I did, say Jay run.

805
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: So here we're Chip McQuaid. You have to have a

806
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: long snip. I know I didn't include I took the

807
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: eight guys that I thought were important that they brought you.

808
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: You don't think LP was important for seventeen years here

809
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, I didn't throw that one in there,

810
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Jake McQuay. Uh Ever, and if I had put him

811
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: in there. Everybody goes, well, it makes it would make

812
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: it a nice even ten ten. Why why you stop

813
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: at eight? Right? Okay? And ten? And it would add

814
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: another two million, okay, right, okay, So the most expensive

815
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: one obviously Sprinkle cap hit. No, he doesn't make my list.

816
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why not? Because he's on the team. It's

817
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: another veteran. I mean, you got you need a third

818
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: tight end, right, He ain't gonna be the third tight end?

819
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: Third tight ends in the draft? You don't think so?

820
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: I think there would be a third tight end. Yeah, okay,

821
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: So anyone's between Sprinkle and McEwen for the third tight end.

822
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: The most defensive cap hit of all those guys they

823
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: signed other than Schultz was jay Ron Curse at three

824
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: point seven two million, and then Armstrong at three point

825
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: three eight million, and the rest of it. They just

826
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of nibbled against the cap, bringing guys in in

827
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: necessary spots. Where does Michael Gallup fit into this equation?

828
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: He he was a necessity. They don't fit the narrative.

829
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to show what they did with some of

830
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: these guys and how they spent their money, like basically

831
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: eight guys, you know, and everybody's like, well, why didn't

832
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: they signed Bobby Wagner. Well he was five years fifty

833
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: million with a five year, five million dollars signing bonus

834
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars gart Well, okay, so there it

835
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: is there, it is right there. Do you want Bobby

836
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: Wagner at five years fifty million or do you want

837
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop at five years fifty seven million? Right? And

838
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, So there there's yeah, and

839
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Michael Gallops what twenty six? This guy's going to be

840
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: thirty two the end of June. And basically, if you

841
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: look at his contract the way it's structured, they can

842
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: get they can turn it into a three year, twenty

843
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: eight and a half million dollar deal and get out

844
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: of it after three years with two million of dead money.

845
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: And you're right, Bobby Wagner's a Hall of Famer. And

846
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: if Bobby Wagner were twenty six or even twenty eight,

847
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: then yet you would take Bobby Wagner. But you wouldn't

848
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: have been able to get him at twenty eight because

849
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: Seattle would have kept him. Yeah, so he's averaging nine

850
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: and a half million a year plus plus he's got

851
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: incentives that he can make and and earn another million

852
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: a year each year in incentives. So just to show

853
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: you when see why didn't they signed Bobby Wagner, Well,

854
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: they basically signed eight guys and it didn't cost him

855
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: that much. All right, Before we go, I want to

856
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: ask Everson, Hey, what do you Everson? What do you

857
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: think you know? Tyron Matthew visited the Saints this past week? Okay,

858
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: what do you think of Tyron Matthew as a cowboy?

859
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: If he fits salary wise, if he came here on

860
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: a you know, economical deal one year, seven million something

861
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: like that, I would I would like that because he's

862
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: that guy that can make those he could decipher those

863
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: plays that in that key situation you say, you know what,

864
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: this is why we bought him here for that moment

865
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: right there. You see. I think he would be one

866
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: of those vestans that could play solid all year long

867
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: and if he had, if he had to, he would

868
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: know exactly what the what the opposition is gonna run

869
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: before they run. It's a lot like U ty Law.

870
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Did you know when he went to the Patriots US

871
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: A lot like I did when I went to the

872
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Giant is nothing can substitute someone who's still capable and

873
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: yet has that experience hell varn Miller and for the round.

874
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, when it was time, he stepped up and

875
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: did what he was supposed to do it and did

876
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: what he was brought there for. Okay, and be great.

877
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: Everson didn't get seven million when he went to the Giants.

878
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: It was it was more like seventy thousand. You know,

879
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: everybody asked me that question. I go, yeah, just how

880
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: much does he want? You know, how how much does

881
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: it take to get him? And he's getting up in

882
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: age now, isn't he? And now, like Bill was saying,

883
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: one of you guys just said, doesn't one year so

884
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: much something millions offer? But look at uh barn Miller

885
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: end up getting like six years and Bobby Wagon. I'm sorry,

886
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: I did not see that coming for guys who's still

887
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: are still good. But dang, that is a lot of money.

888
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: That is a good luck with that, you know they

889
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: ain't good luck. Okay. So then as far as what Matthew,

890
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: where Matthew fits into this defense? You've got you've got

891
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: at Safety, You've got Curse, and you've got Malie Cooker,

892
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: and you've got Donovan Wilson, Demante Kazy has not signed anywhere,

893
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: and so that there's a vacancy there at your in

894
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: your safety room. Kean O'Neill has left. Obviously he was

895
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: a linebacker slash safety here. Uh, and then yet as

896
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: a slot corner to be your slot corners. Jordan lewis, So, so,

897
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: how does how does Matthews? You know, I gotta look

898
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: it up here? You keep talking because he how can

899
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: I put it? A guy that has put it all

900
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: on the line, like to have a bit on the side.

901
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes he has taken out to hit and you could

902
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of see, uh. You know, he turns thirty in May.

903
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: He's an old he's an old thirty. Yeah, he's been

904
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: through a lot. He's been through to his credit, but

905
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: that's when you really have to draw on more of

906
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: your U was the word guile? Wow? No, I like

907
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: that word gu I l e that. You know? Hey,

908
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: do y'all play wordle? No? You know what I'm talking about? Word?

909
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: That would be a great good word. It's a five

910
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: it's their five letter words. Guile would be a great one.

911
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: G U I l E this morning? What was the word?

912
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the word was. I got it

913
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: on the first try, well, he's bragging out himself in fact. No, no,

914
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: here's what No, No, here's what I do. Here's what

915
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: I do. I do it with my daughters and my

916
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: wife and so my youngest daughter Jordan, you know, because

917
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: what you do is you you you figure it out

918
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: and then it says how many trice it took for

919
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: you to to get the word right? Okay, and so

920
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Jordan's uh text first and it shows what her guesses were,

921
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: basically how many you get right in her first guest

922
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: And then my second oldest daughter, Jessica, she did hers well.

923
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: They we went on a family trip to Broken Bow, Oklahoma,

924
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: and they revealed what were what their first word is

925
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: that they use every time, Like, um, I can't say

926
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: what Jessica what her first word is, but uh, Jordan's

927
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: first word is ghost, and so I could go off

928
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: of I can go off of what by studying there

929
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: what happened on their guesses that there's a couple of

930
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: times now I've been able to get it on the

931
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: first guess just based on what they missed whatever. So

932
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: this is like talking about fantasy footthall. It's actually pretty fun.

933
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: It's a great family thing to do. Okay, all right,

934
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: what do you think Tiger is doing right now? Is

935
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: he still even part? Oh yeah, let me see what

936
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: the heck is going on, Tiger? That would be another

937
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: five letter words. Great, it would be very timely for tomorrow.

938
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: Let me suggest that to the New York Times for

939
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: your next work. Going back to going back to wait, wait,

940
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: what about walls? Come on? Yeah, that's I've noticed. Yeah,

941
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: I noticed they don't do plural like like Rhodes with

942
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: an S on the end of it. There, Apparently they

943
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: don't do they don't do plurals. So and some walls

944
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: walls would not qualify then. And I haven't seen a

945
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: proper name yet either. Yeah, what about Jonas Jones? I

946
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: have not. I was talking about the commercial. I got

947
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: one that went right over your head. All right, let's see,

948
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh whoa wow, tight, right, before you go on, before

949
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: you go on, before you go h called some people

950
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: at Grambling to get some information, and a lot of

951
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: people down there listen to our podcast. All right, black

952
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: people are into that's why we need you in studio.

953
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: That's right. Ever, since that's why that's why you're we

954
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: can't have you on the phone. We got to be

955
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: able to see you in studio. So wherever you found

956
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: that out, make sure they know eight eight eight eight

957
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: to two night seven. Okay, So so look I brought,

958
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: I brought all of was it was it? What was

959
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: that Bakla Baklava? Remember I was in baklover, New Jersey?

960
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Or uh about Buffalo? That was about bad chast I

961
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: told you about that place. Yeah, yeah, and people that's

962
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: right there, that's right. So yeah, man, that's that's only

963
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: because of me. Guy, Let's get that straight. It was

964
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: the dry Fish you were talking about Italian restaurants, Baca

965
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: of all. Yeah, and yes, who guess who is tied

966
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: for third at the Master's right now? Wow, let me

967
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: look at this. Through seven holes Tiger Woods is one

968
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: under par and he's tied for third at the Masters.

969
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, what do we do? We dare speculate?

970
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I heard the guys on the

971
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: radio and I was driving in. He hit his first

972
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: shot and he wasn't happy with it, and I think

973
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: he kind of sliced it and it wasn't on the

974
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: fairway and they were all going, oh god, look at this.

975
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: Well he ended up paring the hole. Right, he was

976
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: in trouble and he parted. He was even par after three,

977
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: I think I saw do we dare? Yeah? No, come

978
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: on now, it's a matter of this can't be real.

979
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: This can't be He birdied six. He birt like, this

980
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: is like Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. It was this

981
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: is this is fake? Come on, the accident was fake.

982
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: Which Gronkowski had a funny line last night on Jimmy Kimmel. Uh.

983
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: Kimmel said something about, yeah, what's your personality? You could

984
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: you could host the Oscars, and he goes, yeah, and

985
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: he goes, I want to see somebody come up and

986
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: slap me. He goes, they ain't getting away with it.

987
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: He'll meet them. He'll meet them halfway, meet them halfway.

988
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: But it's pretty funny, all right, So that doesn't for

989
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: the special two hour version one under Now the question

990
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: is can he walk eighteen holes two days? And that's

991
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking fu on these practice

992
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: rounds as well. Yeah, he's been really trying to yep.

993
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: All right, So that's what you're doing for the next

994
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: couple hours there, Everson, keep an eye on. No, no,

995
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: you know I don't want Okay, that's you guys, you

996
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: can have it. You had to do something. You had

997
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: to do something I couldn't do. Hey, if I was

998
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: the PGA and he was playing in my tournament and

999
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: I knew all the eyeballs were going to be on it,

1000
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: it's like, if he makes the cut, I give him

1001
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: a golf cart. Just keep keep keep playing, just keep playing.

1002
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: All right. That does it for this edition of mix

1003
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: Shots and more of our draft preview, and Everson is

1004
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: going to do his research over the course of the

1005
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: next week and we'll get his take on some of

1006
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: these draft prospects next Thursday at eleven thirty here on

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Speaker 1: mix Shots. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.