Speaker 1: Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team?
Speaker 1: We're we're a little biased here, and we got six
Speaker 1: you know, that's it. That's the record.
Speaker 2: It's not four touchdowns in sixty six. But on today's
Speaker 2: episode legendary actors starring in two of the greatest sitcoms
Speaker 2: of all time, Ed O'Neil pulled that thought. We're covering
Speaker 2: super Bowl nine Pittsburgh still is for some Minnesota vikings.
Speaker 1: This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was still following things pretty closely. How mean
Speaker 1: was mean? Joe Green? Mean as hell? My whole idea
Speaker 1: was knock the shit out of you and I'll progress.
Speaker 1: Instead of tackling, I would hit him with a forearm.
Speaker 1: It was like Kamakazi football.
Speaker 2: You would have been a great special teamer.
Speaker 1: Probably they good doggy back Doggy thraining. Who's the coolest
Speaker 1: cameo you guys ever had? Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible.
Speaker 1: We had Lawrence Taylor, Kenny Stabler, Bubba Smith. We had
Speaker 1: a thing where we come up against each other. It
Speaker 1: was a goal line stand and when we rehearsed it,
Speaker 1: he couldn't go back. It was like getting in with
Speaker 1: an actual Grizzly Bear. And finally I went to the
Speaker 1: guys and said, Hey, this ain't gonna work at Chris Farley.
Speaker 1: I knew Chris can't remember that seedy Farley stories. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the greatest Farley story you'll ever hear in
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Speaker 2: On today's episode, we're covering Super Bowl nine. The Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: still is for some Minnesota purple people. Eater Vikings defensive
Speaker 2: line with former Steeler and legendary actor star of FX's
Speaker 2: clipped Ed O'Neil. On this episode, we get into talking
Speaker 2: old Polkai football.
Speaker 3: You guys know, touchdowns nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2: In one game, one game, in one game, City Championship,
Speaker 2: City Championship. What it was like starring in two of
Speaker 2: the greatest sitcoms, sitcoms of all time, we get into
Speaker 2: talking Steelers, you get an inside perspective. I mean he
Speaker 2: was on Chuck Noles first yep Steelers team and training camp.
Speaker 1: Mean Joe Greens first year or two? Mean Joe Green?
Speaker 1: We asked him, is me and Joe Green? That mean
Speaker 1: you get the insune in and you'll know.
Speaker 2: And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline.
Speaker 2: Great episode. Look forward to having you guys. Listen, Let's go.
Speaker 1: January fifteenth, nineteen seventy five, two Lane Stadium, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Still Curtain versus the Purple People, leaders for all the Marbles.
Speaker 1: On a cold, wet afternoon in the Big Easy, A
Speaker 1: dynasty is born before our eyes. This is super Bowl Nice.
Speaker 1: That was great. Welcome to games with Names.
Speaker 2: We have a very special guest, an idol of not
Speaker 2: just me, my father, anyone who's over thirty. Their parents
Speaker 2: all grew up with him in our household. And then
Speaker 2: he went on to go on and do another crazy
Speaker 2: sitcom that took over and it was like the best
Speaker 2: sitcom modern day. Marywood Children. We have Ed O'Neil, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining.
Speaker 1: Us, Thank you, my pleasure, Jewel. We got Kyler over here.
Speaker 1: We got Leah and Jackson. I didn't meet you actually,
Speaker 1: and today we are looking at Super Bowl nine, the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers versus the Minnesota Vikings Classic game. Now, why
Speaker 1: why do you like this game? I like all the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Yeah, you know, and this was not too
Speaker 1: long after I got cut. Yeah, so I was still
Speaker 1: following things pretty closely. And you know, I knew all
Speaker 1: about frank O Harris and those guys because they came
Speaker 1: a year after I got cut. And I'm when I
Speaker 1: got cut, I said, I got cut. I had a
Speaker 1: cup of coffee with them. Basically, That's about it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was still, you know, sitting in the bar
Speaker 1: with my buddies watching these games. Yeah, and glad I
Speaker 1: wasn't playing at that point. Yeah. Well you had to
Speaker 1: be vested because you got drafted with me and Joe Green.
Speaker 1: You got drafted with a lot of these Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of famers, and so you got to enjoy. And
Speaker 1: it was Chuck noles first year, right, it was noles
Speaker 1: first year, and so you got.
Speaker 2: To you had his first training camp and you got
Speaker 2: to know these people. So you get vested because you
Speaker 2: have relationships with these guys.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, I mean it was you know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was very intense. You know you've been to those camps.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't make a whole lot of friends.
Speaker 1: It was a job, yes, but it was it was fun.
Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, as opposed to college. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why you would think it
Speaker 1: would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed the training
Speaker 1: down there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what people don't realize because I was a
Speaker 2: very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent,
Speaker 2: so they signed you exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the
Speaker 2: last round of our draft, which some would argue it's
Speaker 2: better to be a free agent because you get two
Speaker 2: years contract instead of locking you.
Speaker 1: In for a third.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback. But
Speaker 2: the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's
Speaker 2: ninety guys, they got to cut it down to fifty
Speaker 2: three and you're sitting where you did you used to
Speaker 2: play the numbers game, You're sitting in training camp. Well,
Speaker 2: they're going to keep this guy, They're going to keep
Speaker 2: that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had I had a situation where, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if yours was the same as ours,
Speaker 1: but ours the Steelers they would put a board up
Speaker 1: and if your name wasn't on it, you were cut.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a nice way to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't see your name as this guy
Speaker 1: got cut. You know, people don't know you. They don't
Speaker 1: even know you got cut.
Speaker 2: And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in
Speaker 2: the locker room and they have this guy with everyone
Speaker 2: calls the Turk. It's probably like he's like an offensive
Speaker 2: assistant of assistant of another assistant. And he comes up
Speaker 2: to your locker and he taps on your shoulder and
Speaker 2: he says, hey, head coach wants to see you. Bring
Speaker 2: your playbook.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I had that. See they went to they
Speaker 1: went through when it started out, okay, they had so
Speaker 1: many guys they cut the way I just mentioned. But
Speaker 1: then if you got along some then it turned into uh, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, coach snow would like to see you
Speaker 1: in his office in your playbook. That's what happened to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so but then there, you know how nice they are
Speaker 1: to you when you're going there.
Speaker 2: You know we're going a different route.
Speaker 1: You know, you're just not well with me, it was, well,
Speaker 1: you never played outside linebacker and you're trying to make
Speaker 1: the team and learn the position at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's hard to do. I said, yeah. He said, well
Speaker 1: I think they I think I think I remember it
Speaker 1: as well. You can go to the Eagles if you
Speaker 1: want to and have don't give you a good look.
Speaker 1: We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down
Speaker 1: the PA Pike. But I need to know right now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened to my thinking. It
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna what I want to drive a
Speaker 1: car the Philadelphia No, I said, I've done. I'm finished.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. Well that was it, but I was
Speaker 1: getting sick of it, to be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: played for two colleges. I had some knee problems, and
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what it was. I didn't
Speaker 1: even like coach as much, you know, I got I
Speaker 1: don't I like Noel. He was when I didn't get
Speaker 1: to know him much, but he was a real gentleman,
Speaker 1: and I thought he was a nice guy. He was,
Speaker 1: but I had coaches in college I didn't like at
Speaker 1: all in high school too. I had to start thinking
Speaker 1: maybe it was my fault. It was to that point. Gee,
Speaker 1: I was finished. I said. He said, well, what are
Speaker 1: you going to do? I said, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: not this. And then I remember when I went to
Speaker 1: my back to the dorm room I had, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver San
Speaker 1: Diego State. He made the team as a defensive back
Speaker 1: and he only played one year. I think he broke
Speaker 1: his back, but he made it. But I went in
Speaker 1: and he was like, what happened? What do you think?
Speaker 1: So I was backing up and the guy came in,
Speaker 1: you know, they said, well, the car's out there. Where
Speaker 1: do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm
Speaker 1: not from Pittsburgh, and I but I knew a guy.
Speaker 1: I knew a friend in Pittsburgh. So I said, now
Speaker 1: I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, okay, we'll drive
Speaker 1: you to Pittsburgh. You know it's not too it's Latrobe.
Speaker 1: So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the
Speaker 1: way out because your cleats are there in the locker,
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of swag for you. We
Speaker 1: got great jerseys and T shirts and hats and shorts.
Speaker 1: And I said, I don't want any of that shit.
Speaker 1: He said, you don't want the it's good stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't want it. I'm gonna wear it. I'm not wearing it.
Speaker 1: I don't want the cleats either, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and
Speaker 1: I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived.
Speaker 1: So I was trying. I didn't want to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was what it was. So I didn't you want
Speaker 1: to go home? You know, I mean, that was all
Speaker 1: screwed up. I thought, I don't want to go home
Speaker 1: and have to explain this. So I said, uh, it
Speaker 1: was still in the summertime. So I directed them up
Speaker 1: a street and I saw a bar. It was a
Speaker 1: local bar with the door open the summertime, the doors
Speaker 1: no air, you know, the door were open. I said,
Speaker 1: right here, my friend lives right around that bar. Just
Speaker 1: drop me off here, you sure, you know? They kind
Speaker 1: of said, yeah, give me the bag audios. So I
Speaker 1: went in the bar and it was like two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and they were like a couple of
Speaker 1: you know, locals. It was a local joint. Ye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I walk in. I'm twenty three years old. They
Speaker 1: don't know me. I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and
Speaker 1: they're looking was this good? I order a beer and
Speaker 1: they got the TV up high, you know, on the wall,
Speaker 1: and we're watching it and the the news comes on
Speaker 1: and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, if somebody
Speaker 1: had a good day, he had the golf club, right yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm watching it and then they went to the
Speaker 1: sports and of course it's Pittsburgh, so they go linebacker
Speaker 1: Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers, and there's my
Speaker 1: picture and these guys are in the in the bar
Speaker 1: and they look. They go, you're at O'Neill. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they said, your money's good here. Now they're all
Speaker 1: buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning and some some car with some girl with
Speaker 1: a state hoopie pulling me over. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know my name at this point. And the guy
Speaker 1: looks in and I think I had my shirt off
Speaker 1: and you know, that was almost naked. And I'm driving though,
Speaker 1: and he says, you know, I had my drivers. He said,
Speaker 1: did you get cut today from Pittsburgh. I said, yep.
Speaker 1: He said, miss can you drive? She said, yeah, he
Speaker 1: just he's just driving around. And he said, can you
Speaker 1: drive this guy home? And she said, I'll take him.
Speaker 1: Says he knows somebody, and he said, letting him go
Speaker 1: because it was you know, it.
Speaker 2: Was Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers. They love them Steelers.
Speaker 1: Even if you got cut, it doesn't make any You're
Speaker 1: still part of the team. You're still part of the
Speaker 1: team anyway. That's my I don't think i've told that
Speaker 1: story ever.
Speaker 3: That So you were a defensive wineman in college.
Speaker 1: I played mansome joker middle guard, middle guard on defense, okay,
Speaker 1: and I played defensive end and I played tight end
Speaker 1: in college. Okay. You know I just went around like that.
Speaker 3: So what was the you said that You mentioned you
Speaker 3: were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp?
Speaker 1: What was That's all you got? That's all they had
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I couldn't be a cornerback. I
Speaker 1: wasn't quick enough. I mean I ran a four seven
Speaker 1: forty in sixty eight. That's that's my number though, But
Speaker 1: you know that's fast. I was about two thirty.
Speaker 2: Four seven for seven, then two thirty that's like a
Speaker 2: two sixty guy running four six.
Speaker 1: And then I did. But you guys didn't train.
Speaker 2: For it like that. That was athlete, that was that
Speaker 2: was fast. Then I don't know, you only had a
Speaker 2: couple of four four guys in the team.
Speaker 1: Well, you know when I did, I did it. I
Speaker 1: narrated the thing on uh Peyton Manning, you know that
Speaker 1: timeline and when I and it was so nicely written.
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with it. And this was not
Speaker 1: long ago. And I was struck by the fact that
Speaker 1: he was coached. And you were too right. Your dad
Speaker 1: was a coach. My dad was a coach. And I
Speaker 1: mean I was never coached. Not I don't think I
Speaker 1: was really ever coached. We just played pickup ball. And
Speaker 1: when we went to high school there was coaches there.
Speaker 1: But it's a long story. They didn't really coach me.
Speaker 1: It was just my whole idea was knock the shit
Speaker 1: out of you and I'll progress. So it wasn't the
Speaker 1: best way to learn football. The game has changed now.
Speaker 2: Well now, that used to be the old that used
Speaker 2: to be the ultimate equalizer of the guy who will.
Speaker 1: Even then it didn't work right. Even then, it didn't
Speaker 1: work right. Because you could hit a guy like on
Speaker 1: a reverse. Say they run around and you're in and
Speaker 1: you've got a clean shot, and instead of tackling him,
Speaker 1: I would hit him with a forearm and sometimes they
Speaker 1: wouldn't go down, you know, they'd spin and keep going.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like that, you know, it was this.
Speaker 1: He was like Kamakazi football that you would have been
Speaker 1: a great special teamer. Probably. I used to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back when I first got in the league, they
Speaker 2: used to have wedges. Oh yeah on the kickoffs. Now
Speaker 2: the whole new thing kickoff rules. Yeah, practice kickoff, but
Speaker 2: it'll be electric. There'll be a lot of touchdowns. But
Speaker 2: the old days, you'd have three or four guys and
Speaker 2: your job was to run sixty yards and you hit
Speaker 2: the three hundred and twenty pound guard that's in the
Speaker 2: wedge full speed. It's like there's this guy, Bubba Vantrone.
Speaker 2: He's as a special team coordinator. I think for Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: That dude used to run down. He was two hundred
Speaker 2: and five pounds, He could run fast. He was probably
Speaker 2: a four to three guy. And I swear he knocked
Speaker 2: himself out at least every game at once. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he did his job. Yeah, he was a badass at
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were the guys when I was playing that,
Speaker 1: you know, there were hitters today. I mean the game
Speaker 1: has really gotten so much more sophisticated. I mean really,
Speaker 1: I mean athletically, size wise, speed wise, and even when
Speaker 1: I played, it was a lot faster than college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like if they're like I'd getten a scrimmage
Speaker 1: and some plays I never even got touched because I
Speaker 1: wasn't where I should be. They'll leave you alone. If
Speaker 1: you got in the action, that's where you got hit.
Speaker 2: There's rules, yeah, and it through any I mean it's
Speaker 2: like with anything over time. The evolution, the technology, the information,
Speaker 2: the studying of the older habits, the studying of the
Speaker 2: newer athlete, the new penalties, the new rules, everything dictates
Speaker 2: the type of game. Let's jump into how how did
Speaker 2: it go down when you sign as a priority free agent.
Speaker 2: You went to Youngstown after going to Ohio University, which
Speaker 2: I was a mac daddy. I went to Kent State
Speaker 2: used to play against Ohio. Actually went to a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Kent State. I went up there.
Speaker 1: I'd watched games and I watched, Oh you play Kent State.
Speaker 1: Somebody won in a field goal. I forget. I think,
Speaker 1: oh you won a field goal, like fifty one yard
Speaker 1: field goal or something. It was unbelievable and that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was happy, but I couldn't show it because I
Speaker 1: was with my sisters at Kent State. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: can't stay. It was a nice school. It was. It
Speaker 1: was cool. I mean, I was your coach. It's a
Speaker 1: strange coach. I had, Doug Martin. No, I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: a different guy.
Speaker 2: Well, the cool thing is so you probably you're sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Saban went to Kent State. I think he was out
Speaker 2: there seventy he was seventy two was his last year.
Speaker 2: He was on the MAC championship team, the last MAC
Speaker 2: championship team before I got there. But uh Ohio was
Speaker 2: always like the did they have cool halloweens at Ohio
Speaker 2: University back then?
Speaker 1: Because that was like the thing. And Saint Patti's Day
Speaker 1: was a big day. Yeah, they died the Hawking River
Speaker 1: Green Yeah, oh man, it was. It was, oh you suicide.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a fun school it was, and a.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful Hawking River Valley and all the buildings, I
Speaker 1: mean it looked like it was made in eighteen hundred.
Speaker 1: It was really nice. I even got in trouble, I
Speaker 1: mean trouble with the coaches playing there, because when I
Speaker 1: came from Youngstown, our manner of playing in Youngstown was
Speaker 1: what we talked about, and it wasn't that way at OU.
Speaker 1: For example, I did very well at middle guard at
Speaker 1: high school because I was only about one point eighty,
Speaker 1: but I was fast. It was very quick, and I'd
Speaker 1: play over the center and i'd bang them and you know,
Speaker 1: depending on the field, i'd go, you know, or i'd
Speaker 1: shoot a gap, blow a gap. When I got to Ohiou,
Speaker 1: they had a really good middle guard that had graduated.
Speaker 1: His name was Lance Tigger. It's a great name, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he was not a big guy, but he was
Speaker 1: very good player. And his method was he would sit
Speaker 1: back on his haunches at the snap like a baseball catcher,
Speaker 1: and he would kind of use his forums as his
Speaker 1: hands to gep yeah, as a shiver, and then he
Speaker 1: could go when I was long, and I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: You know, I was on all four and I had
Speaker 1: to be going forward. And they kept making me like
Speaker 1: play like they wanted me to play like him. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not him. I'm not built like him, so that
Speaker 1: was my right off the bat. It was like I
Speaker 1: was starting as a freshman. Yeah, I mean, but it
Speaker 1: was illegal, so I couldn't actually get in the game.
Speaker 1: But they were in spring ball. I was first team.
Speaker 2: And then didn't you because you played freshman ball, you
Speaker 2: couldn't start, didn't you used to play against Roger stall Back?
Speaker 1: Well, I played against Staubach in an actual game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: explained When was that he was Let's see, that would
Speaker 1: have been sixty seven. It was a military game, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was at Pensacola Naval Station. He was doing his
Speaker 1: bit his time after Annapolis, and they had like two
Speaker 1: or three all American receivers. I think one was from
Speaker 1: usc and one was somewhere else. So he just for
Speaker 1: him to throw to, you know. Yeah, And that was
Speaker 1: the longest goddamn game I ever played in my life.
Speaker 1: He threw every play and if you did, if he
Speaker 1: didn't throw, he just ran around back there, chased them,
Speaker 1: chase him, and I finally hit him out of bounds
Speaker 1: illegally because I chased them, chased them, chased him, and
Speaker 1: he stepped out and I just kept coming and it
Speaker 1: was right on his sidelines, and there was a guy
Speaker 1: named Lynch who was the heavyweight boxing champ of Annapolis. Oh,
Speaker 1: he wanted to kill me, you know, because he was
Speaker 1: on the sidelink. And I said, hey man, you know
Speaker 1: I chased the son of a bitch. You know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hit him. I'm good friends with Roger.
Speaker 2: Now Oh yeah, yeah, he's a studied came and talked
Speaker 2: to our team a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we'd always.
Speaker 2: Have someone influential that has had a lot of success
Speaker 2: in sport or something to come talk to the team.
Speaker 2: And he he was an interesting guy that just you
Speaker 2: could tell he Dudley do right crosses his t's do
Speaker 2: You could just that, And he was you could tell
Speaker 2: he's a leader.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd said, gosh, darn it, he whizz come out there.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, my out Youngstown, Ohio baby Youngstown.
Speaker 1: But he's a wonderful guy. And that guy was such
Speaker 1: a great great He's the best I ever played over
Speaker 1: or played against Himyah, there's no doubt he was the best.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: So how did you who who was your team growing
Speaker 2: up in Youngstown? If if you was that because the
Speaker 2: Browns were really good then Giants were because because that's
Speaker 2: what you saw on TV.
Speaker 1: Probably I saw The Violent World of Sam Huff. Yeah
Speaker 1: you remember that. No, Oh my god, I'm so old.
Speaker 1: It was one of the first things out in this
Speaker 1: in this format. And they had a linebacker from West
Speaker 1: Virginia who went to the Giants, Sam Huff, and uh,
Speaker 1: they we all know Sam Huff, I don't I do do, okay,
Speaker 1: So it was called The Violent World of Sam Huff
Speaker 1: and they miked him. No one had ever been miked
Speaker 1: before and it was it was like an hour long
Speaker 1: special of him middle linebacker, and that got us all gone. Man,
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was great. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: talking bullshit and everything, you know, talking ship. It was great.
Speaker 1: So that's so. But even before that, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I must have been my dad. Somebody liked the Giants
Speaker 1: and uh and we didn't like the Browns. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And I went up to training camp. I
Speaker 1: had my dad take me up because it was Hiram College,
Speaker 1: well you know, he was from Kent to watch the
Speaker 1: summer workouts and Jim Brown was playing. So I in
Speaker 1: my life, I've never asked for an autograph in my life,
Speaker 1: not before or since. And I was I think twelve,
Speaker 1: and he came out, you know, he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was one of those dog day afternoons, right, and
Speaker 1: he's sitting there and he's got his pads here, and
Speaker 1: he's just and he had that mohawk. The guy looked
Speaker 1: like he was great. You know. The guy was amazing looking.
Speaker 1: So my dad said, go again, no, I've got so
Speaker 1: I went over to him and he looked up a
Speaker 1: him and he saw me coming, you know, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a happy look. And I said autograph. He said
Speaker 1: not now walked away. I never asked for another a
Speaker 1: graph in my life. And later I met Jim and
Speaker 1: got to be kind of friendly with them. Much later,
Speaker 1: you know. I think when one of the elections, I
Speaker 1: ran into him and I told him that and he said,
Speaker 1: oh god, damn, I'm so sorry. You know, I used
Speaker 1: to do that shit.
Speaker 2: In Jim's defense though, like you said, it was the
Speaker 2: second the second.
Speaker 1: Practice was it was the second practice.
Speaker 2: Guy's been running. They're running those guys like dogs. Back
Speaker 2: in those day. That's when training camp. You look at
Speaker 2: a training camp nowaday, you laugh. I had double days
Speaker 2: early in my career for three years, and we jumped
Speaker 2: over to the new rule where you can't have one
Speaker 2: every five days, and it's changed. That's when like training camp,
Speaker 2: these guys. They used to get these guys in crazy shape.
Speaker 2: They'd work them to death. There was no analytics on
Speaker 2: loadage or anything. It was more like when the coach
Speaker 2: got tired of yelling, that's when practice was over.
Speaker 1: That was about it. In fact, that day they scrimmaged
Speaker 1: and Brown. You know, of course everyone's watching Jim Brown
Speaker 1: and Frank Ryan was the quarterback. Remember Frank Ryan, And uh,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Jim Brown, and he wasn't doing anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: he'd come out of the huddle, he'd be in the huddle,
Speaker 1: the huddle would break, he'd hardly move, take one or
Speaker 1: two steps, and then he just like he wouldn't even
Speaker 1: get in a three point maybe very slowly. Ball would
Speaker 1: be snapped and he'd walk off to one side or
Speaker 1: the other and they'd either hand it to a running
Speaker 1: back or Ryan would throw a pass. He didn't move,
Speaker 1: and I thought, he's not even practicing, you know. So
Speaker 1: one play he walked off to the side, Ryan went
Speaker 1: back to throw, and then he drifted out and he
Speaker 1: got a little screen out to the left right by us,
Speaker 1: and he turned. He's coming hard like running towards us.
Speaker 1: And then he's cutting it up and there's two guys
Speaker 1: coming to hit him with the sidelines. One went low,
Speaker 1: he hit the guy with his knee, and the other
Speaker 1: guy came high and he punched the guy in the neck,
Speaker 1: I mean hard, and dropped both of them and took
Speaker 1: two more steps and stepped out of bounds and then
Speaker 1: he walked back. That was Jim Brown's thing. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was something to say. Man. Was he was bigger
Speaker 1: than those guys. He was to twenty five to thirty,
Speaker 1: and he was faster than every waist. Was this big?
Speaker 2: Was he the best football player you ever saw.
Speaker 1: That I ever saw. Yeah, there's no no question.
Speaker 2: Belichick talks about how good Jim Brown was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I knew Lawrence Taylor pretty well. You know,
Speaker 1: Lawrence did our show and he was with us for
Speaker 1: a week. That's the best way to play football. Have
Speaker 1: a show where you're you're in that ridiculous uniform there
Speaker 1: and you never get hit. Pokai pocai jack. Oh you
Speaker 1: got that? My god, that's great. What are you talking about.
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
Speaker 2: My dad is the Al Bundy of pop twelve year
Speaker 2: old Pop Warner football coaches. He never played football, but
Speaker 2: he thinks he's Al Bundy of the coaches of Pop
Speaker 2: Warner of twelve year olds.
Speaker 3: So for the audio listeners, Jewels just put on a
Speaker 3: Polkai varsity jacket.
Speaker 1: No, that THEI jacketing. I didn't see that over there.
Speaker 2: What memories do you think about when you first see
Speaker 2: this jacket?
Speaker 1: Well, we had so much fun on that show. I
Speaker 1: mean that show. It was a crazy show. The writers
Speaker 1: creators of that show was a Jewish guy from from
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and a black guy from North Carolina, and together
Speaker 1: they were like they look like gas station attendants, but
Speaker 1: they were brilliantly funny guys and just completely out to
Speaker 1: lunch the whole thing, you know. But we were laughed
Speaker 1: so hard. I mean it was it was really hysterical.
Speaker 1: And you know, every year we thought we were going
Speaker 1: to go you know, like every season I thought, two
Speaker 1: three shows, they're going to tell us to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it just kept going.
Speaker 2: Now it was an eleven year run, you guys had,
Speaker 2: which spanned a lot of my childhood. But getting in
Speaker 2: that routine, that that day to day life when you know,
Speaker 2: because I remember being with Grown for ten years, you know,
Speaker 2: when you come to work, he knows when I'm in
Speaker 2: a bad mood. You know, when they're in a bad mood.
Speaker 2: You're in the locker room. Then you got to go
Speaker 2: out to practice and perform. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: did you have any of those moments where you kind
Speaker 2: of just knew what was going on?
Speaker 1: Well, how was the day to day life? Well, when
Speaker 1: you're very similar to playing ball, I mean without the contact, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you know, you know, and of course it's it's
Speaker 1: guys and gals. Yeah, so that's that's obviously different, but
Speaker 1: you're still performing. You know, you've got a live audience,
Speaker 1: and so you kind of it's a teamwork thing. You
Speaker 1: really do have to have that kind of sense of
Speaker 1: a team and uh, you know, when one's down, you
Speaker 1: try to pick them up, and you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's very similar actually. And also the discipline that you
Speaker 1: that you do develop, you know, somehow playing football help me,
Speaker 1: you know, because I you know, like even now this
Speaker 1: thing I just did FX promotes like you can't believe,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I do it so.
Speaker 2: Ed is talking about the news show that premiered I
Speaker 2: think this week. Yesterday I watched the first episode Clipped.
Speaker 2: First two episodes came out on Hulu. Awesome story about
Speaker 2: the whole ending of the empire of the Sterling family, Clippers,
Speaker 2: the Clippers owner. We all remember that in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: you know it's I watched that. I only watched one episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's ours kind of that's the table. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that first episode, I mean.
Speaker 1: It's l A, you know, it's l A and all
Speaker 1: the and all the underbelly of LA and oh it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really cool, like you got me
Speaker 2: to forget that you were Albundy modern family dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad, you know. And good acting. That's called,
Speaker 1: you know, good acting. Well, you know, believe, just sit
Speaker 1: down and they give you the piece and then they
Speaker 1: make you. They did something to your skin. Apparently this
Speaker 1: guy had sort of bumpy something and then tan like
Speaker 1: he liked the sun, and then the glasses and all that.
Speaker 1: And then I listened to his voice, which is kind
Speaker 1: of I wasn't really trying to imitate, how you couldn't
Speaker 1: but sort of a pedantic way of speaking. You know,
Speaker 1: like I n g endings were pronounced and a little whiny,
Speaker 1: you know, and I but that's all I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everything was in the script. The script was really good.
Speaker 2: Now, how do you remember your lines when you had
Speaker 2: go through the script?
Speaker 1: Is it hard?
Speaker 2: Because I had some cameos and I get so nervous
Speaker 2: hard when I'm learning the script.
Speaker 1: But here's what you do. You do you just learned
Speaker 1: scene by scene. So in other words, if you're doing
Speaker 1: two scenes in a day or whatever your whatever your
Speaker 1: job is, you just learned that scene and you just
Speaker 1: do that scene. And then the next day, you know,
Speaker 1: you have another scene, so you take it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just design to create a story. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day. You don't have to worry about down
Speaker 1: the road. You know, that's someone else's job.
Speaker 2: So like on Wednesday, install it's just first and second down,
Speaker 2: On Thursday's third down, and then Friday it's red area exactly,
Speaker 2: and then we just put it all together at the.
Speaker 1: End of the day. That you're a genius, you know, Well,
Speaker 1: this is a.
Speaker 3: Big trend in Hollywood with a lot of sports scripted
Speaker 3: content happening in the world.
Speaker 1: Well, are you talking about my experience. I did a
Speaker 1: movie called Little Giants My Favorite, which is great. That's
Speaker 1: where I met John Madden because John's in it. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you funny this is. I mean, I'm just all
Speaker 1: over the place. But when I met John, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just high high and oh god, this is hilarious. Actually,
Speaker 1: the first time I met John was in New York
Speaker 1: City and I'm walking up the street by Central Park
Speaker 1: with a friend of mine named J. J. Johnston, who's
Speaker 1: a legendary passed on now legendary guy had been in prison,
Speaker 1: came out, became an actor, one of David Mammott's guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of my greatest characters in the world that I knew.
Speaker 1: And we're walking up and he's got to buy suitcases
Speaker 1: because he's going with Al Pacino to London to do
Speaker 1: American Buffalo in London. And he didn't have any luggage
Speaker 1: because he's from Chicago, but he just took a bag,
Speaker 1: so he got this cheap suitcases. I'm lugging one, he's
Speaker 1: lugging the other. We're going back to where he's staying
Speaker 1: and I hear him go John John Jesus Christ. It's
Speaker 1: John John and Madden's caddy corner. He goes, hey, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Come here, you motherfucker. It comes over.
Speaker 1: He says, how you doing? You know he's a big guy,
Speaker 1: John Big, how you doing? Goodness? See, yes, it's good
Speaker 1: to see your kid. You're looking great. Where you're headed.
Speaker 1: I'm just going down here. I got to meet a
Speaker 1: guy for I got a little meeting with some guys here.
Speaker 1: But some uh you know Ed O'Neil. He said, no,
Speaker 1: I know who you are. I haven't had the pleasure,
Speaker 1: he said, ed, John the great John Madden gave me
Speaker 1: he loves say hello. I said, okay, but he's looking
Speaker 1: at me like he looks scared. And I thought, what
Speaker 1: the hell, because we look like muggers. You know, we
Speaker 1: look like this guy if you saw him. So now
Speaker 1: John says, hey man, I gotta go, and he said,
Speaker 1: go ahead, John, lovely to see you. Go ahead, kid,
Speaker 1: a great guy. He goes down the street and I said,
Speaker 1: how do you know John Man? He said, I don't,
Speaker 1: John l He was terrified. I thought we were gonna
Speaker 1: mug him. So now much later I'm working with him,
Speaker 1: you know, in Little Giants. And then I did that
Speaker 1: timeline thing years after that, so by this time, I
Speaker 1: know his son Mike, who's well, the greatest guy. You know,
Speaker 1: Mike's a great guy. So Mike called John and said,
Speaker 1: I saw this thing timeline and on Peyton's comeback with
Speaker 1: Wes Walker Walker and the neck injury. So he sent
Speaker 1: it to John. So John sent it to Mike, and
Speaker 1: then Mike called me. He said he thinks it's one
Speaker 1: of the best things he ever saw on pro football. Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean the way it was written. I narrated it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to check it out. So it's only an
Speaker 1: hour long. So anyway, I was interviewed about it and
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I was never emotional about quitting football. Never.
Speaker 1: I didn't miss it. I didn't give a shit about it.
Speaker 1: And I'm narrating this thing and I'm almost finished with
Speaker 1: the narration. We almost went all the way through. And
Speaker 1: it's like not quite twilight in the in the show,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the sun is set, but it's
Speaker 1: still light. Yeah, And they're in this abandoned stadium, I
Speaker 1: think Tennessee or somewhere, and he's doing a mock drive
Speaker 1: down the field with his receivers Welker and so and
Speaker 1: so in the running back and he's making up linebackers.
Speaker 1: You know, watch the mic line. I never heard that term,
Speaker 1: by the way, Mike linebacker, but they're saying that, and
Speaker 1: the he's doing the omaha thing, you know, and they're
Speaker 1: driving down the field and it's it's kind of relaxed,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it, and the dialogue is there's
Speaker 1: no place in the world he'd rather be than here
Speaker 1: right now doing this something like that, And I actually
Speaker 1: got emotional. I mean, the the memories of playing football
Speaker 1: with my friends as a kid and everything. It was
Speaker 1: like almost overwhelming. I can hardly talk. And I thought,
Speaker 1: where did this come from? You know? Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was great. You don't lose that, you know, you
Speaker 1: think you get away from it, but you really don't now,
Speaker 1: and that's what you miss the most. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you miss the most, you know, is your friends and
Speaker 1: your camaraderie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the locker room time. I mean, I miss competing
Speaker 2: at a high level. I miss Oh well, yeah you
Speaker 2: did it at the highest level. You missed that. But
Speaker 2: you can find that in other ways. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: real you know, getting yelled at with your boys, winning
Speaker 2: a game with the boys, the flight home after a
Speaker 2: road victory with the boys, you know, in the team.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. You know. I met Brady when he
Speaker 1: was at Michigan. Yeah, and he was gonna They were
Speaker 1: playing the Rose Bowl. They were out in Pasadena, and
Speaker 1: I got a call from my ex high school coach
Speaker 1: named Jerry Hanlon he was now the defensive backfield coach
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Yeah, and he said, hey, you know I
Speaker 1: was doing married. He said, would you come out to
Speaker 1: meet the guys. It's like two or three days before
Speaker 1: the game. I forget how they were playing, but oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: So I drive out and I meet the team, and
Speaker 1: I meet Brady and you know, he was he was.
Speaker 1: He was just handing off. Yeah, in Michigan. You can't imagine.
Speaker 2: He had to come back in in the Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: the next year.
Speaker 1: I think was that it Yeah, okay, he would come
Speaker 1: back kid, Yeah, but I mean he was. And then
Speaker 1: I did a pilot with him with oh god, what
Speaker 1: was her name? A beautiful girl from Texas? Anyway, it
Speaker 1: was Jessica. No, Uh, I was playing her father and
Speaker 1: uh and it was her story was and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was along for the series if it went,
Speaker 1: which I prayed to god it wouldn't go after we
Speaker 1: shot it. But they had Brady there and they had
Speaker 1: the linebacker Errington, and they had the kid, a kid
Speaker 1: from Dallas and uh and they were like so happy.
Speaker 1: It was like, I think Tom had won one super
Speaker 1: Bowl and uh that's when you know, I said, I
Speaker 1: met you at Pasadena. He didn't, you know, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you no, he knew, he knew, but it was he
Speaker 1: was just beginning really, you know, although he won that
Speaker 1: one super Bowl, yeah, I may never win another, you know,
Speaker 1: but he did six more. Amazing, crazy, just amazing.
Speaker 3: You're you're John Madden's story reminds me a lot of
Speaker 3: We had Eric stone Street on the show and he
Speaker 3: had almost the exact same story as you meeting John Madden,
Speaker 3: but meeting Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: It was him and Brent.
Speaker 3: Veach, who was the GM of the Kansas City Cheeess
Speaker 3: Brett used Eric as a means to talk to Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: They called him two inch or something. Yeah, Erict two
Speaker 2: inches just to say hi, and then went back two inch.
Speaker 2: Stone Street's funny.
Speaker 1: He's amazingly funny, and he's he's a very creative guy.
Speaker 1: Very creative, I mean amazingly so.
Speaker 2: And he's got a knowledge of everything about the chiefs.
Speaker 1: He can he can pick the Royals, of which he's
Speaker 1: a part owner.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, is he a part owner?
Speaker 1: He got bought a little share. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much. He didn't tell me. Geez. He's a great guy.
Speaker 1: He is a really great guy. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: You know who you should play? I just thought about it.
Speaker 2: He played Sterling. You gotta you gotta play Chuck Nole.
Speaker 2: I mean, all these little could you play Chuck?
Speaker 1: No I could play Chuck Nole because I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't look like Chuck. Oh, I didn't look
Speaker 1: like Sterling. But you know, Noel was a wine connoisseur too.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a red wine guy, A very
Speaker 1: very sophisticated guy, not like your normal coach quiet, but
Speaker 1: you know, almost like he reminded me of like some
Speaker 1: kind of bird of prey. I mean, in his look,
Speaker 1: had the eyes like like a ha hawk that pointed
Speaker 1: nose thing. Yeah. Him at Bradshaw. You know, they didn't
Speaker 1: they didn't get along at all. Yeah, I think they.
Speaker 1: I think they cleared it up at the end though,
Speaker 1: And he didn't like Handriddy for some reason. Terry Terry
Speaker 1: was the coolest guy you ever would meet, you know,
Speaker 1: remember him, Yeah, he was a notre dame guy.
Speaker 3: But he played this year a little bit Terry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in this two thousands, nine seventy four season.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a sidearm thing, but it was
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Man, little giants. What about Wayne's World? I used to
Speaker 2: love I loved jun Waynesbrood, I love d Waynesborod.
Speaker 1: I I did that. I just did that as a
Speaker 1: favor to my manager's company, Rosting Gray. They produced that
Speaker 1: movie and it was all about you know, uh Dana
Speaker 1: Carvey and uh Mike Mike Myers and and then the
Speaker 1: back when I did it, they weren't getting along and
Speaker 1: they you know, it was almost like Laverne and Shirley.
Speaker 1: One would come out, then the other would come out.
Speaker 1: They do the scene, then they go back. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like I knew both of them. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: we were we had the same managers. That's awesome though,
Speaker 1: that because I've had that.
Speaker 2: I've had teammates where they don't get along, we don't
Speaker 2: get along, yeah, but to come together to make us
Speaker 2: something good, and that's hard that's hard, that's real.
Speaker 1: He wrote. Mike wrote that thing for you know, I
Speaker 1: was that whack job that ran stem mckita's donut shop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I remember I had that one speech in the
Speaker 1: dead of winter. When you stab them, man, you can
Speaker 1: see the steam rising from the wounds. Mike was seriously
Speaker 1: it was funny. You know. You know what was Mike
Speaker 1: Mike because he wrote that. He wrote that, you know,
Speaker 1: he wrote all my he wrote my part. And uh
Speaker 1: at Chris Farley, I knew Chris. How is any Farley stories?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the greatest Farley story over here in
Speaker 1: your life. John Lovett's had a Super Bowl party and
Speaker 1: he lived in Brentwood and we all a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1: Everybody went and uh, Chris came in late, just before
Speaker 1: the kickoff. He came bursting in the door. You know,
Speaker 1: he made those entrances where he's out of gas. Where's
Speaker 1: going on? You know, he came flying in and he
Speaker 1: was coming from rehab in Venice, like his fifteenth trip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we had they had a big spread. It was
Speaker 1: like a Mexican motif, you know, with the food and
Speaker 1: everybody had eaten and had or had a plate and
Speaker 1: everybody was going into the screening room for the kickoff.
Speaker 1: So Farley runs over to the table and he's piling
Speaker 1: up food, you know, and his plate. He's in a
Speaker 1: hurry and it says, leave a little something for the
Speaker 1: rest of us, Chris. That we all went in and
Speaker 1: shut the door. But Chris was out there kick off.
Speaker 1: It's the first series. We're watching whatever, guy, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what game. And the door opens and Chris comes
Speaker 1: walking in and he had taken a loaf of Italian
Speaker 1: bread and he had cut it lengthwise and then he
Speaker 1: put every condiment that was on the table on the sandwich,
Speaker 1: you know, Pepperccini onions to make everything. And in between
Speaker 1: he had sandwiched John Love It's beloved kitty cat, live
Speaker 1: cat in the sandwich and he was holding it. And
Speaker 1: he walked in and said, oh, any fucking thing I
Speaker 1: want to on Super Bowl Sunday, love it scream, you
Speaker 1: know the cat. The cat was like this, you know,
Speaker 1: in the sandwich. Is everyone dying? Oh my god? Can
Speaker 1: you imagine? Oh my god, I can't imagine. But he
Speaker 1: he was the sweetest guy. He was, you know, he
Speaker 1: he was you know a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: that his father was five hundred pounds. I'm not making
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds up. Yeah, he was five hundred pounds
Speaker 1: and a very successful businessman. But Chris had that fat
Speaker 1: Jean couldn't be thin. Yeah, that's tough, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I have a picture. I must have left my phone
Speaker 1: in the car. That's okay. We had him recreate it
Speaker 1: the sandwich with the cat without the condiments, but he did,
Speaker 1: and I've got the photo. You know, with the cat.
Speaker 1: You have to get it. Yeah, now we'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this quick break. We gotta jump, we gotta
Speaker 1: we should probably jump into the segment where we get
Speaker 1: into nineteen seventy five. But oh fuck nineteen Well, we
Speaker 1: liked always we always do it back, I'm kidding you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with where the game took place.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to around January twelfth, nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 2: number one movie, Towering Inferno. I believe they made a remake.
Speaker 2: You don't like remakes.
Speaker 1: I've heard no, and I don't like that one either.
Speaker 1: I mean that it was those movies, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Eve McQueen, Paul Newman, Fredis Stare Fey down Away when.
Speaker 1: It was Newman and Steve McQueen, right, they hated each
Speaker 1: other when they shot that. McQueen used to count lines.
Speaker 1: He's got more lines than me. Newman didn't give a shit. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they'd say, well, okay, well give them two more. They'd write,
Speaker 1: you know, so okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: Geez divas. I mean, I guess you had some diva.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, they're they're there. If Tom didn't
Speaker 1: throw me the ball at least five times in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, I was pitted.
Speaker 2: Number onood song Mandy by Mary Manilo. That was a
Speaker 2: fun That was a fun song. It still has still
Speaker 2: holds its own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he was, He was good around this time.
Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune debuts The Jefferson. Jefferson's premiers are you
Speaker 2: Will a Fortune Guy or Jeopardy Guy?
Speaker 1: Neither, but the Jeffersons was written co written by Michael Moyer,
Speaker 1: who had married with children. He wrote I Forgot What
Speaker 1: He wrote a couple of the parts on that. He
Speaker 1: also wrote for Laverna Shirley.
Speaker 2: Geez and I heard Modern Family, the Modern Family people.
Speaker 1: Did Frazer Fraser, Golden Girls, Just Shoot Me.
Speaker 3: A number of others Reboot Too, which I thought was
Speaker 3: really good but just didn't catch on the reboot oh
Speaker 3: a Fraser, No, the reboot the show reboot on whom.
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought that was good to Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: had that kid from the Partner Pool and yeah, kid's funny.
Speaker 3: And Johnny Knoxville was in it and he was actually
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that Ike was shocked when they canceled that.
Speaker 2: Paul Allen and Bill Gates founded Microsoft out in Mountain View.
Speaker 2: Kel it was in Mountain View, California.
Speaker 1: Look, think it was yeah, up by Seattle, wasn't.
Speaker 2: No, It's I'm from this here.
Speaker 1: I'm from Chilicon Valley Valley. Right.
Speaker 2: They all went out to Stanford. Yah, I think that's
Speaker 2: where their headquarters is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it on the lake. You had that house,
Speaker 1: some beautiful This is saying Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Maybe Albuquerque. We were completely off. We were completely off.
Speaker 2: Godfather to Godfather to Young Frankensign Jaws Jaws.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That movie is scared.
Speaker 2: It scared everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it like, yeah, all great movies.
Speaker 2: All those that's what movies were movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Godfather too was great with the narrow Brando, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the third one lost me a little bit in the Godfather.
Speaker 1: Do you like it. The third one wasn't as good. No,
Speaker 1: I liked, it's just what didn't. Yeah, two was awesome.
Speaker 1: You got de Niro, you got to see the had
Speaker 1: some good performances in there. Yeah, but it wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't as good. It wasn't as good.
Speaker 2: What about in the sports world seventy five, seventy four
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions where the Pittsburgh Steelers NFL MVP was
Speaker 2: Kenny Stabler, the Snake, the snake.
Speaker 1: I met Kenny. Kenny did married with children. He was
Speaker 1: a really cool guy. Oh, I bet he came on
Speaker 1: the state we had. That's when I met Lawrence Taylor,
Speaker 1: Kenny Stabler. Who's Bob Smith? Bubba Smith? What is it?
Speaker 1: Who the name? No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the name Bubbat Smith.
Speaker 1: No, Bubba Smith. Bubba Smith. Remember Bubba? I don't Bubba Smith?
Speaker 1: The defensive end for the Colts six seven, three point fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got him right here play for Michigan State. Okay,
Speaker 1: what year? Uh, I don't know, I forget around my time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michigan State sixty four to sixty six. Was drafted
Speaker 3: first overall one one oh man. He was eighteen sixty
Speaker 3: seven draft to the Rims.
Speaker 1: He did the show he did Married with Children. He
Speaker 1: played the U spare attire Dixon. He's the one that
Speaker 1: stole my trophy out of the trophy case. And we
Speaker 1: had the one on one. Oh, I had to make no,
Speaker 1: I had to change it to slow motion. I did this.
Speaker 1: We had a thing where we come up against each other.
Speaker 1: It was a goal line stand. It was a It
Speaker 1: had been a contested call in the championship game where
Speaker 1: I crossed the line. They called it a touchdown and
Speaker 1: he swore I never got over. So now all these
Speaker 1: years later, we're going to do it again. And the
Speaker 1: imaginary goal line, just the two of us. Oh, it
Speaker 1: was so funny. You got to google that. You gotta
Speaker 1: watch that show. It's one of the great ones. He
Speaker 1: and he couldn't. He hadn't done anything, I don't think.
Speaker 1: And when we rehearsed it, he couldn't pull back. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like getting in with an actual
Speaker 1: grizzly bear, that's how strong he was. And finally I
Speaker 1: went to the guys and I said, Hey, this ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work. I said, you know, I got to work
Speaker 1: next week. Going well, let's just go slow motion. He
Speaker 1: and we'll film it like its slow motion, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be slow motion. It turned out hilarious. Then he's
Speaker 1: a sweet guy too. I bet he is.
Speaker 3: The nineteen sixty six City Championship Polkai Panthers versus the
Speaker 3: Andrew Johnson High School against Bubba Sparetire Dixon.
Speaker 2: Four touchdowns in one game, nineteen sixty six. Baby, we
Speaker 2: should have done that game. Who's the coolest cameo you
Speaker 2: guys ever had? You've ever had in any of your shows,
Speaker 2: any of anything?
Speaker 1: The coolest cameo on any show I ever did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible. We had so many
Speaker 1: over on Modern Family. We had so many alone. I
Speaker 1: mean I just couldn't say. I really couldn't say. Have
Speaker 1: you ever met Bill Walton, Joe, I never met Bill
Speaker 1: rip I love that I watched that wonderful, luckiest guy
Speaker 1: in the world, Doc. Yeah, I used to. So I
Speaker 1: like to pack ten.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the Bay Area, so you know,
Speaker 2: I'd be in Boston and when I was playing, and
Speaker 2: it'd be eleven o'clock a night or something, and the
Speaker 2: Pac twelve team would be playing, and Bill Wallat would
Speaker 2: be man going on a'd be talking about like a
Speaker 2: forest in northern California had nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 1: No, I used to when I was I don't even
Speaker 1: know when this wasn't. I don't even know if this
Speaker 1: actually occurred or my brain just made this happen. I
Speaker 1: remember seeing a photo on the cover of Sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: of Walton going up. It was either the block a shot,
Speaker 1: or it was a rebound. I'm not sure what it was,
Speaker 1: but he was he was up and his hand was
Speaker 1: this far above the top of the backboard. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he was seven foot yeah. And then and then
Speaker 1: he could still jump. Oh my god, I said, this
Speaker 1: is you know, he would if he didn't have those
Speaker 1: back problems and feet. Yeah, but when you get those
Speaker 1: big guys on that shoes back, then we're in converts, right,
Speaker 1: there's no support with might as well played barefoot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that that hardwood is hard. He was such
Speaker 1: a great player. He was amamable. He could do everything.
Speaker 2: He's kind of like Joker.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Jack is texting me, He's saying, your memory is correct.
Speaker 3: That was March twenty fifth, nineteen seventy four issue.
Speaker 1: You're kidding me, Yeah, your issue? Oh my god, can
Speaker 1: you bring it up? I mean bring it up. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it since then. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I'd
Speaker 1: like to see it.
Speaker 3: And well, Lea brings us up the Rams linebacker.
Speaker 1: Hacks Reynolds and the Snake. He played with the Niners too,
Speaker 1: didn't you? And Jack because we used to Jack young Blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: played with a broken back in the Super Bowl, played
Speaker 1: with a broken bone. All right, where is it? There
Speaker 1: it is? Oh? There it is? Is that it? Well
Speaker 1: it's not above okay, all right, it was that one.
Speaker 1: Well I exact Bill Walton, alright, p but you see, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean that's talk about playing above the rim. Oh man.
Speaker 2: When the A's were good, they won their third straight
Speaker 2: World Series Oakland A's.
Speaker 1: I remember whether they had the mustaches. Yeah, they looked
Speaker 1: like the old nineteen twenty players. That was so cool.
Speaker 1: Who was the picture that was the eighties? Something of
Speaker 1: the eighty guy with the mustache? Oh god, from the
Speaker 1: Battle of the Bay is it Dennis? Yeah, Boston guy
Speaker 1: to Boston.
Speaker 2: Remember we met him at a Strega one night with
Speaker 2: Nicki Verano. Tony Tony Lesura or Tony Tony Tommy Tommy Lesura.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommylesorta, who was mentioned in the pilot or the
Speaker 3: first episode of clipped of Clips.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually wanted to go to the goddamn game. You
Speaker 1: want to have dinner with Tommy? All right?
Speaker 2: Can we set the stage for this Super Bowl nine
Speaker 2: starting with the Minnesota Vikings Gui, Yes, I can in
Speaker 2: tar This was like.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills before the Buffalo Bills. Yep. He was
Speaker 1: sort of a mini not a mini, but he was
Speaker 1: of Stoba. Sure, quarterback scrambled. I remember Foreman to Chuck Foreman.
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful running.
Speaker 3: Back to this nineteen seventy four Vikings team Pro Bowlers
Speaker 3: Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, John Gilliam, Ron Yarry, Carl Eller,
Speaker 3: Alan Page, Paul Krauss.
Speaker 1: Alan Page was from Canton, Canton, Ohio. He had page one.
Speaker 1: In page two, his brother was page two. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: wasn't he smart enough to go to college? He worked
Speaker 1: at Canton Timkin Roller Bearing after he graduated. Isn't Warren
Speaker 1: right really cool? Yeah? Warren is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We used I used to go to act one of
Speaker 2: my teammates house and Warren. We used to this place
Speaker 2: called the hot Dog Shop or something. I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't hang around Warren. Yeah, probably I was pretty much
Speaker 2: in young Kngstown. Yeah, the middle spot.
Speaker 1: Where you could die at any given moment in Youngstown.
Speaker 1: And he never realized. I never thought it was dangerous,
Speaker 1: Eddie di Botless.
Speaker 2: From there, it's the midpoint from chicag I go to
Speaker 2: New York for a reason.
Speaker 3: So this team was coached by Bud Grant. They went
Speaker 3: ten and four. They were coming off of twelve and
Speaker 3: two season and a Super Bowl appearance where they losted
Speaker 3: Super eight to.
Speaker 1: The Miami Leaders.
Speaker 3: This was their third Super Bowl appearance in as many
Speaker 3: years and lost. They lost two of them. They also,
Speaker 3: notably have never won one. This was the team of
Speaker 3: the Purple People Eaters, the defensive line, Alan Page Call,
Speaker 3: Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Gary Larson, Doug Sutherland, the Purple
Speaker 3: People Eaters. They referred to themselves as the Purple Gang.
Speaker 3: But because of the song by Sheev Woodley one a
Speaker 3: one off, one hit.
Speaker 1: One hit Wonder, and their motto was meet at the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on the city of Minneapolis or the people of
Speaker 2: Minnesota ed this, I mean, this is this is prime
Speaker 2: Minnesota football, if you think about it. They hadn't had
Speaker 2: this kind of success since then. And then they really
Speaker 2: do have a crazy fan fan base like those people
Speaker 2: love Minnesota football, and it's because of this generation of football.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, do you what do you remember the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Vikings this time?
Speaker 1: Oh? I love the Vikings, you know, I mean they
Speaker 1: were they. I like the uniforms. I liked the players.
Speaker 1: They were rough, you know, rough bunch rough, very rough Vikings,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I used to follow the Vikings. I
Speaker 1: liked Tarkenton. He was crafty. He was very crafty, slippery. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My dad used to say I looked like him when
Speaker 2: I was. I used to play quarterback.
Speaker 1: I know, were you You were a right hander. I
Speaker 1: was a right hander.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was a smaller guy that would run
Speaker 2: around and make these crazy plays. And my dad get
Speaker 2: yell little Tarkenton in Yeah, yeah, yellow tark He.
Speaker 1: Was a bit of a modern quarterback too in this era.
Speaker 1: Early he would have lit it up. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably would have played eight more years. Can't
Speaker 2: hit him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, here's the Steelers.
Speaker 3: It just picked up these Steelers nineteen seventy four Steelers
Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers, Ray Gariela, my pounce is bad me and
Speaker 3: Joe Green, Elsie Greenwood, Jack Ham, Frank o'harris, Andy Russell,
Speaker 3: a lot of Hall of famers on his team, fourteen
Speaker 3: Hall of famers.
Speaker 1: After them, right, Yeah, he was back up Joe Gilliam.
Speaker 1: There's a kid who could have been a great, great,
Speaker 1: great player. What happened? Drugs, alcohol, and and I think
Speaker 1: he didn't get He beat up Bradshaw. Yeah, he beat
Speaker 1: up Bradshaw. Bradshaw second year, Gilliam was starting.
Speaker 3: So this season was riddled with quarterback controversy. Three starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Joe Gilliam threw Week six, they were four to one
Speaker 3: and one, then Terry Bradshaw, then Terry you pronounced him
Speaker 3: hand ready, Kerry Henriddy, and then back to Teddy Bradshaw,
Speaker 3: who then started this game. Yes, kind of had to clutch.
Speaker 1: Knowle was just trying to teach him a lesson, like,
Speaker 1: you know, get with it. You're he wasn't happy up there.
Speaker 1: You know he was a Southern kid. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: thought it. Well, Ham was great. Lambert Ham came right
Speaker 1: after I did. Was there Jack Lambert Kent State and
Speaker 1: Lambert Lambert can stay in state. So this year a
Speaker 1: little bit of a psych go right, a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, The big takeaway on this team is They had
Speaker 3: an incredible draft and incredible rookie class, so Lynn Swan,
Speaker 3: Jack Lambert, John Star with Mike Webster and then they
Speaker 3: signed Donnie Schell.
Speaker 1: All five are in the Hall.
Speaker 3: Of Fame now came into that team this year kicked
Speaker 3: off the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Dynas No. Blunt was great, Mel Blunt, Hall.
Speaker 3: Of famers on this team are just incredible, Mel Blunt,
Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw, Joe Green, Jack Caam Franco, Harris, Jack Lambert,
Speaker 3: Chuck Noll, Bull nun Art, Rudy Dan, Rudy, Donnischell, John
Speaker 3: star Worth, Lind Swan, and Mike Webster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were loaded. Mike Webster was a monster. Ernie
Speaker 1: Holmes had a problem.
Speaker 2: With the now ed when you got there in sixty nine, right,
Speaker 2: sixty eight, sixty nine, sixty nine, Chuck Nole's first year.
Speaker 2: Could you feel something special was bruin to where they
Speaker 2: got five years later?
Speaker 1: No, because I was just like in shock that I
Speaker 1: was even there. Yeah, walking around. I remember my dad
Speaker 1: dropped me off and it was, you know, same since
Speaker 1: college and I got there and the Vets weren't really
Speaker 1: there yet. There were some that were there for special reasons,
Speaker 1: you know, they had injuries working on things, and so
Speaker 1: I was there with all the rookies. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we were getting the rooms and everything, and my father
Speaker 1: was and my father was a tough guy, and he
Speaker 1: was very quiet. He was always quiet, but he was
Speaker 1: very quiet that day. And so he said, well, you
Speaker 1: better get going dad, you know. He said, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: And I walked him out to the car and he
Speaker 1: opened the door and he looked around and he said,
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to do this? And I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought maybe not. I said, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, you said, because if you don't, we'll grab
Speaker 1: your bag getting let's get that all out of here.
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, go go. Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: he was worried just watching these guys walking around. You know.
Speaker 2: That's what dads do. Yeah, they worry.
Speaker 3: Well, when we had Terry on he he talked a
Speaker 3: little bit about how Chuck Noll was really early in
Speaker 3: trying to get plays or some different pockets of the
Speaker 3: country to try to get the best athletes to really
Speaker 3: kind of create a little bit more of a integrated locker.
Speaker 1: Rooms round too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at that time I think even said Chuck, no
Speaker 3: guns like Patot's license, we could fly to these like
Speaker 3: small colleges all.
Speaker 1: Across the country. He was a sophisticated guy. And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean look at the look at that, Look at
Speaker 1: that those guys. There were so many great players on
Speaker 1: those how mean was mean? Jeal Green? Mean as hell?
Speaker 1: You know that's the other thing they go, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: just a nickname. It's it's because he's not mean. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a gun. He was great off the field.
Speaker 1: He was a sweet guy in a real life. On
Speaker 1: the field, he was brutal. I mean, you know he
Speaker 1: used to punch guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah did you know that? Oh yeah, I seen the highlights.
Speaker 1: No, he'd hit guys in the stomach with a fist.
Speaker 1: He had a great uppercut to the solar plexus. Boom.
Speaker 1: He nailed these guys. They drop like a sack. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was brutal. He didn't lift weights, you know, he
Speaker 1: was what we used to call cock strong. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: a normal naturally that was a term. Yeah. Uh. Never
Speaker 1: never touched the weight, but fast. He was a great player.
Speaker 2: One of the all time.
Speaker 1: Anybody this guy could.
Speaker 3: In this game foreshadowing. He had a fumble recovery and
Speaker 3: an interception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a tremendous player. He was me, Me
Speaker 1: and Joe. The best commercial ever made, right, that coke
Speaker 1: commercial we just ever made.
Speaker 3: We just found out because one of Jules's old coaches,
Speaker 3: Dante Scarnacio, was acted in a like made for TV
Speaker 3: movie based off of that commercial.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, yeah, yeah remember that.
Speaker 2: That's right, Dante's Scarnakio. Now Terry did uh all.
Speaker 1: Kinds of cameos, right, Harry did a married with children,
Speaker 1: and he did a Modern Family. You know, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a funny thing. We had lunch when he was
Speaker 1: doing the Modern Family. Now we knew each other, and uh,
Speaker 1: we were having lunch and it was a it was
Speaker 1: a courtroom scene where he had courtroom duty and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get out until I saw it
Speaker 1: was him. It was my idol, you know, Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: So we're having lunch and he's looking at me. He says,
Speaker 1: when did you play? And I told him when I
Speaker 1: was trying out, you know, and he said yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, well I played twelve years. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look you're younger. You're older than me, ain't you.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm a year older than you. You
Speaker 1: look better than I do. I said, I didn't play
Speaker 1: twelve years in the NFL when they didn't protect quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: He had some bad injuries. He said, Man, you're right,
Speaker 1: he said should I said, how many concussions you have?
Speaker 1: He said, shit, I couldn't count. I couldn't count them all.
Speaker 1: I said, well that's why you and he had detached bicep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a bad back to everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't listen. A series of injuries and
Speaker 1: he's but he's he's happy, he's got a good life.
Speaker 1: Terry helped build Fox Sports started with the Yeah he
Speaker 1: was doing the pregame him Howie a lot like Walton,
Speaker 1: you know that that just that free spirit kind of
Speaker 1: say whatever. Terry's the best man. He's authentically him, he
Speaker 1: really is. So I sang in the grand Old Opry,
Speaker 1: I said, oh I heard that. He said, I wan't
Speaker 1: any good? But what I sang? And that?
Speaker 2: Did he tell you that they rolled all his fans
Speaker 2: there or something? He always yeah, he tells me, I've
Speaker 2: heard these stories.
Speaker 1: Now I know. I know he's a piece of word.
Speaker 1: Oh he's so funny. He lives in Oklahoma. Now you know,
Speaker 1: he's got horses. Yeah, he big horse guy. He said
Speaker 1: he finally found the right woman. You know, he's probably
Speaker 1: on his third or fourth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now who's on your Steelers Mount Rushmore though?
Speaker 1: Well, any one of any number of these guys got
Speaker 1: four h Green Joe Green Well Otey, who's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite, but he's not on here. He must have
Speaker 1: come later. Is that that Samoan kid? You know that?
Speaker 1: That kid? My god, he was one of my favorite players.
Speaker 1: I mean, just the way he played defense, That kid
Speaker 1: was right. I mean, did you play against him, did
Speaker 1: you feel that he was that good? Or was he
Speaker 1: fading by then or no? He was, he was still
Speaker 1: that good.
Speaker 2: What made him so good was he didn't necessarily hold
Speaker 2: the responsibility he was supposed to hold. So, like if
Speaker 2: you're doing a pre snap read on something and safety
Speaker 2: comes here, and then you do a post snap and
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be going this way, Troy would be
Speaker 2: in a completely different area kicking a ball where you're
Speaker 2: not accounting for that guy to go there because he's
Speaker 2: not supposed to be there right right, So he had
Speaker 2: an instinct that was second to none. Come right over
Speaker 2: the line, some right over and he would do that uncalled,
Speaker 2: like that wasn't the call play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't teach that stuff. You can't.
Speaker 2: And a lot of guys try to do that, but
Speaker 2: they when you do that, you leave yourself your team.
Speaker 1: Vulnerable getting dashed.
Speaker 2: Yea, you know what I mean A lot yeah those
Speaker 2: but he never really I mean, he'd have his times,
Speaker 2: but he made a lot more plays.
Speaker 3: He got away with it a lot away with it
Speaker 3: a lot more. My favorite thing about Troy is that
Speaker 3: while he played during the two thousands with the Steelers,
Speaker 3: he had the embodiment of this seventy Steelers defense, Like
Speaker 3: he could have played on those teams and fit right in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He was also a very gentleman.
Speaker 2: When you compete against him, he'd say a prayer before
Speaker 2: every play.
Speaker 1: He'd like, you, all, those Hawaiians are very religious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, those missionaries did a job on those. But look, Lambert,
Speaker 1: very smart player. He was only about two ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was small, and he was six four or sixty
Speaker 1: three years tall, and he had them very big shoulder
Speaker 1: pads on right. He looked like fierce and no teeth.
Speaker 1: But he was basically just a real smart player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he'd just bring you down. Not a Budkuss
Speaker 1: Budcus would kill you. Yeah, and uh we.
Speaker 2: Got me and Joe Troy in Lambert.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I wouldn't put Lambert in the Okay, So,
Speaker 1: uh Andy Russell. I loved Andy Russell.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Andy Russell was one of the smartest linebackers I ever
Speaker 1: saw play the game. A lot like Joe Schmidt. Remember
Speaker 1: Schmid for the Lions. You don't remember Schmid. Smidt was
Speaker 1: one of the all time great middle linebackers. And not
Speaker 1: that big, but Russell when he played the weak side.
Speaker 1: He played on the weak side, you know, opposite the
Speaker 1: tight end, and he would he'd stand straight up in
Speaker 1: the air before the snap. He'd be looking around. He'd say,
Speaker 1: you know, why out watch him. He's coming over there.
Speaker 1: And he'd be talking and he would be like, not
Speaker 1: in a football you think he's not ready to play football.
Speaker 1: Like he looked like a ref and that ball be
Speaker 1: snap man and he was on it. You know. He
Speaker 1: was great for me. Again, not that big. He was
Speaker 1: a full back at Missouri. Yeah he was. He was
Speaker 1: like you he was basically a running back and uh
Speaker 1: he was. He was a great player. Played a lot
Speaker 1: of years. Didn't he He was the captain, wasn't he?
Speaker 1: He look Andy Russell.
Speaker 3: I have a quote from Andy Russell which is he
Speaker 3: would tell Yeah, he would tell Terry Bratch on the offense,
Speaker 3: just hold him.
Speaker 1: We'll get the points else. Greenwood, Now he was a
Speaker 1: rookie when I was a rookie Greenwood, and I would
Speaker 1: have bet my life that they would have cut him
Speaker 1: because he played like he was on roller skates. He
Speaker 1: was six seven and he was long and thin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my god, he looks like a
Speaker 1: basketball player. You know, I didn't think. But you know,
Speaker 1: you know you're wrong so much. I mean, they they
Speaker 1: worked with him. He had a he had potential.
Speaker 2: When you get those long arms, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he finally became a well, as you know,
Speaker 1: he became a great player.
Speaker 2: Well, you get long arms, you get leverage, strength, and
Speaker 2: you keep the guy away from you. Yeah, then you
Speaker 2: can two get like the Stork.
Speaker 1: Yes, remember the stork from the Raiders, the outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: the mad Stork. What was his name? I don't know
Speaker 1: his name, but I remember yet, Oh my god, just
Speaker 1: go mad Stork. He's the probably Hendrix. Hendrix, I will
Speaker 1: say now with no problem one of the greatest linebackers
Speaker 1: ever ever. They could never run on him. They could never.
Speaker 1: And there was another guy too that played for the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, number sixty four, and I don't remember
Speaker 1: his name. He played for years outside linebacker two forty
Speaker 1: sixty three, six y four brutal, Yeah and great. What
Speaker 1: was his same number? Sixty four, San Francis.
Speaker 3: Wayne Wilcox, Yes, Willcox, Wilcox Man, Dave Wilcox, Dave Wilcox.
Speaker 3: That guy could play draft in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 1: Sixty four probably played to seventy five seventy four stand
Speaker 1: two teams first with his hands on his hips and
Speaker 1: his legs crossed standing. You know that. You know that
Speaker 1: when you're tired. Yeah, he just stand like this. That's
Speaker 1: a tired look.
Speaker 3: Well, let me wrap up the Steelers team. So they
Speaker 3: went ten to three and one. Was the first tie
Speaker 3: ever or overtime.
Speaker 1: To ten record. Yeah, yeah, that was the record.
Speaker 3: And also notably, just got to say it, this was
Speaker 3: the steel Curtain defense. Notably me and Joe green Elsie
Speaker 3: Greenwood the Torch Game. Dwight White and Dwight White in
Speaker 3: this game got food poisoning, lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 1: It was going to be whether he was going to
Speaker 1: play or not. He ended up playing in this game.
Speaker 1: Remind me to tell you a funny story about frank
Speaker 1: O Harris and me. When Sophia Viagara got married, the
Speaker 1: wedding was at the It's Florida. Yeah, what's that hotel.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful down in West Palm Beach. It's I don't
Speaker 1: know West Palm Beach here. I don't either, So I
Speaker 1: was there when most of the cast went down, of course.
Speaker 1: So uh so anyway, I'm at the reception and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm standing with some of the cast and this guy
Speaker 1: comes up to me and he says, uh, mister o Neil.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bother you, but you know, I
Speaker 1: work for a man who's your biggest fan. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: tell him. I said hi. He said, well, he's he's here.
Speaker 1: I said, well, if he's here, bring him over. Where
Speaker 1: is it. He said, he's over there by the fountain.
Speaker 1: I looked and I said that's frank O Harris. He
Speaker 1: said yes. I looked, and I went so literally like this,
Speaker 1: you know, came over. I said, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: Almost I'm so happy. I can't I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say. I said, wait a minute, you came the
Speaker 1: year after me, when you were when you were at
Speaker 1: Penn State. Yeah, I said, you know, I was a
Speaker 1: rookie with the Steelers. He said, I know all about it.
Speaker 1: I said, you do you know I got cut He
Speaker 1: said yeah. I said, and uh, you won four Super Bowls? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maculate reception. Yes, and I'm your idol. What's wrong with this?
Speaker 3: Well that's a great segue because in this game, Franco
Speaker 3: Harris was the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Rush.
Speaker 3: This game thirty four attempts, eight yards, one touchdown, also
Speaker 3: two fumbles one lost, but everyone was fumbling this game.
Speaker 2: It's freezing. This is the coldest game on record at
Speaker 2: the time, so it's to be in the super Dome.
Speaker 2: They didn't finish it and go to Tulane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The lead up of this game is the Steelers beat
Speaker 3: Buffalo and Oakland to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The Vikings beat Saint.
Speaker 3: Louis aided by three turners in a missfield goal, then
Speaker 3: they beat Los Angeles on a goal line stand to
Speaker 3: win at the end of the game. This was billed
Speaker 3: as like two great defenses, Steel Curtain versus the Purple People, eatersly, oh,
Speaker 3: in terms of the defensive line in the fens fencing,
Speaker 3: and I mean.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Vikings wanted to do what the Steelers did.
Speaker 3: And the Vikings were just coming off they were searching
Speaker 3: for their first super Bowl title. They had just lost
Speaker 3: super Bowl four, and they had just lost the previous
Speaker 3: year super Bowl eight against the Dolphins. And you mentioned, yes,
Speaker 3: this is the second coldest super Bowl ever with forty
Speaker 3: six degrees. And the reason that is is because it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be at the super Dome, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't finished yet, so they moved the game to nearby
Speaker 3: Tulane where there was all kinds of weather and rain,
Speaker 3: and so they moved it on the slick turf, and
Speaker 3: so this game was very sloppy.
Speaker 1: Franco was a great running back. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a load. Oh he was huge, he was big.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, when he turned up, you know, train.
Speaker 2: You gotta get him, You gotta get him running side.
Speaker 1: They started, Oh yeah, yeah, you got to get him legs. Man.
Speaker 1: It was like this guy can he can? He can
Speaker 1: bring it. Now.
Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were when you watched this game?
Speaker 1: No? No, I mean I watched it for sure. What
Speaker 1: I was probably in some bar Youngstown, Youngstown. You're fresh
Speaker 1: out here, you're about five years out you you haven't
Speaker 1: yeah Hollywood yet. I was like twenty eight. I was
Speaker 1: in Youngstown. Yeah. I didn't go to New York till
Speaker 1: thirty one. I was thirty one, thirty one. I mean,
Speaker 1: the odds of me making it when I got to
Speaker 1: New York were astronomical. Yeah, I still can't even believe it.
Speaker 1: What were they? You couldn't even make odds that high?
Speaker 1: Oh you got It's like winning lotto, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: So this was this was a sloppy game, sloppy weather specialties.
Speaker 1: It looks like an ego. You could do it. We're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna write a movie for you to
Speaker 1: be Chuck Jeels, who played Terry.
Speaker 2: I'll be Terry Bradshaw Terry.
Speaker 1: No, I can't play, I'll get Terry. You played Chuck
Speaker 1: blond To You know Chuck was a I was a
Speaker 1: messenger guard for the Browns. Yeah, did you know that?
Speaker 1: I didn't played for Paul Brown. He was an underside guard.
Speaker 1: He was probably maybe he was two twenty, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe not, but he used to run the plays in
Speaker 1: and out for Paul Brown Cleveland.
Speaker 2: So this is a defensive battle. Now do you when
Speaker 2: you watch these games back in those days where you
Speaker 2: entertained to see defenses do well like this.
Speaker 1: I love the defensive games, which they don't want to
Speaker 1: see anymore. They don't want to see that. And to
Speaker 1: me it was well because I was a defensive player.
Speaker 1: I love the defense. I love the defensive guys.
Speaker 2: And it gets a bad rap because we will get
Speaker 2: into scoring the game and a lot of people associate
Speaker 2: a bad game with a good defensive game.
Speaker 1: That's a bad game. To that bad game, it is
Speaker 1: a bad game. But it's like it's like the UFC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dana White, he wants nothing but knockouts. If you go
Speaker 1: on the ground, you don't get the bonus. Yea, even
Speaker 1: if you if you tap the guy out from the ground.
Speaker 1: Dana White's mad. He sometimes he'll walk out of a
Speaker 1: fight and the guy on the ground, you know, ready
Speaker 1: to I mean, it's just how it's gone because you know,
Speaker 1: he knows what puts asses in seats, and it's blood
Speaker 1: and guys getting knocked out, Yeah, kicked to the face
Speaker 1: what I call stupid fighting. Yeah, it's become stupid fighting.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, you know, I went to
Speaker 1: the Gracis for thirty years. You know, the jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1: I got a black belt from the old man. But
Speaker 1: if you if you take a fight, a lot of
Speaker 1: times you'll see two wrestlers who really can't box, but
Speaker 1: they like to box because they just learned it. So
Speaker 1: they get in there against each other and they think, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little better than this one at boxing,
Speaker 1: and they box. Well, who wants to see that fight?
Speaker 1: Two guys that really don't know how But they won't
Speaker 1: put those guys on the ground and start from there.
Speaker 1: But if you're on the ground too long, they stand
Speaker 1: you up. Yeah, so when they stand a ground fighter up,
Speaker 1: you're at the disadvantage right away. And that's what that's
Speaker 1: all about.
Speaker 2: Now, Well, I mean, you've got to pick your battles
Speaker 2: and you got to use your strengths and try to yea.
Speaker 2: That's why it's an awesome sport to watch right now,
Speaker 2: because you can be a shitty boxer but still go
Speaker 2: out and get down.
Speaker 1: Now. The thing, now, are those calf kicks.
Speaker 2: They're breaking legs.
Speaker 3: How did you get into mixed martial arts? How did
Speaker 3: you get into doing the mixed martial arts?
Speaker 1: I got in there with well, it's not martial arts.
Speaker 1: I got in with the jiu jitsu with from John Millius.
Speaker 1: Do you remember a guy named John Millius? Nobody he wrote?
Speaker 1: He wrote Apocalypse Now, okay, he wrote Big Wednesday, which
Speaker 1: is a classic surfing film. Yeah, you'll see. Anyway he was.
Speaker 1: He was taking jiu jitsu in Torrents with the Gracie family.
Speaker 1: They're Brazilians and I knew him from the lot and
Speaker 1: he and we used to get the fights and we'd
Speaker 1: all go and watch the fights and stuff, pay per
Speaker 1: view stuff. He was telling me about these Gracy guys
Speaker 1: and the main the head Gracie was a guy named
Speaker 1: Hickson Hicks. On Gracie, you wouldn't want to fight, it'sen Gracie.
Speaker 1: And I think his record was somebody like four hundred
Speaker 1: and oh buddy, and that's exaggeration. But anyway, he was
Speaker 1: trying to get me to go down there and take
Speaker 1: this jiu jitsu and I said that the guys that
Speaker 1: wear the pajamas and yeah. He said, yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is a whole other thing. And I said that, John,
Speaker 1: You know, so two years of this. He's badgering me.
Speaker 1: And so one day I went down. I said, I'll
Speaker 1: meet you there. He said, no, I want to drive
Speaker 1: you down. I said no, no, I'll meet you there
Speaker 1: because I wanted to, you know, exit. So I go
Speaker 1: in and he's in there with Horry and Gracie, who
Speaker 1: was the oldest brother, and they were rolling around, you know,
Speaker 1: on a mat. I'm looking in the window and I'm
Speaker 1: bringing what are they doing? You know? So afterwards they
Speaker 1: come out and I meet Horry and Gracie. He's the
Speaker 1: oldest brother. He runs the show, and all, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. It's good to see you. I love love things.
Speaker 1: John says, good things. And I said, well, the place
Speaker 1: is very clean, clean you could eat off the floor literally,
Speaker 1: And he said, okay, now you get to have a
Speaker 1: free lesson with me. I want to show you. I
Speaker 1: said no, no, no, no, no, I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: got to get back and I'm in Torrance right. I said,
Speaker 1: it's the rush hour. I don't have to get a
Speaker 1: motel out here. You know. He come on, please your
Speaker 1: air you only hear one time to fifteen minutes, so
Speaker 1: get it a ghee. So you know, the thing the
Speaker 1: pajamas so I go in, I put it on, I
Speaker 1: come back out. He says, Okay, this is going to
Speaker 1: be quick. I know you're in a hurry. Lay down
Speaker 1: on your back, please, And we were in the mat.
Speaker 1: I lay down. He said, I'm going to kneel on
Speaker 1: top of you, and then we tell you this is
Speaker 1: the two part tests, very quick. I mean, pretend you
Speaker 1: come out of your bedroom at night and you hear
Speaker 1: a noise and your wife is afraid, and there's a
Speaker 1: guy in there right he maybe open the door and
Speaker 1: knocks you down and jump on top of you. Your
Speaker 1: children in the other room. You think you can get
Speaker 1: me off of you if your life depends on it. Now,
Speaker 1: this guy is Buck seventy. Yeah, I'm at that time,
Speaker 1: like two forty. You know, this is thirty some years ago.
Speaker 1: I said, Man, if my life depends on I think
Speaker 1: I could get you off. I don't know after that,
Speaker 1: because I knew these guys, said you know these reputations.
Speaker 1: But so that's it, that's all you have to do.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm laying like this, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: we'll win. He said, anytime you want. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: feel his weight on me. He's kneeling, but his the
Speaker 1: weights on his knees, and I said, all right, anytime.
Speaker 1: He says, anytime you want to just go, just get
Speaker 1: me off. So I think I like bucked up, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, pushed it. Twenty seconds later, you know,
Speaker 1: he's still on top of me. I can't get him off.
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, says, okay, sit up, breathe, breathe, breathe. It's okay, okay,
Speaker 1: now this is the last part. I lay down, you
Speaker 1: sit on top of me. It's okay now. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I can't. He said, can you hold me down? Four seconds?
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, four seconds? I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: four seconds. What am I look like to you? You know?
Speaker 1: He said, that's all you have to do, John, you
Speaker 1: count one, two, three, four like that. I said, that's
Speaker 1: fast for said's not even four seconds. Okay. When I
Speaker 1: said get it hold of me, so I grab him,
Speaker 1: he said, come on like a man, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's cell of their fish. So I hold him. I'm
Speaker 1: squeezing him. He goes you ready, I said, yeah, boom,
Speaker 1: he's on top of me. I'm looking up at him.
Speaker 1: I said, how did you do that? He said, this
Speaker 1: is what we do. I said, I got to lend this.
Speaker 1: He said, no, he come on, that's not the point.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to show you what we do. We
Speaker 1: have some actors come, they do this and that, they
Speaker 1: go home, they do movies. You know, they don't come back.
Speaker 1: I said, when can I come back? Come back to more?
Speaker 1: You want to? I said, the time. Give me the time, Torrance,
Speaker 1: I'll be here. Sixteen years later, I got the black belt.
Speaker 1: Cheez wow, I took it was a lot of humble pie, man,
Speaker 1: Believe me.
Speaker 2: I recently got into combat. I've been boxing a bunch.
Speaker 1: You're boxing. Yeah, I used to box as a kid
Speaker 1: in Youngstown. Yeah, I bet it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a whole other deal. It's a whole other deal.
Speaker 2: But it's a great way in outlet for you to
Speaker 2: compete with yourself.
Speaker 1: Are you smarring not smar far. Don't spark got too
Speaker 1: many head things. Yeah, no, don't spark at all.
Speaker 2: But I'm doing all the movement, the bag work, and
Speaker 2: it's been fun. It is hurts my body though, I
Speaker 2: see all my deficiencies and from my injuries, and because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of unnecessary there's
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy torque on the body when you're
Speaker 2: doing these things.
Speaker 1: Well, boxing is the in my opinion. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm opinion about this because I grew up with boxing
Speaker 1: in Youngstown and you know Raymond's. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of the great fighters that came out of Youngstown,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a whole history of that. But
Speaker 1: boxing is the only sport that's gone backwards. I mean
Speaker 1: it's gone backwards. In the thirties and forties, the fighters
Speaker 1: were the best, and even even further back. And people
Speaker 1: will say, no, no, you're wrong. You know, look how
Speaker 1: big they are, the heavyweights. I said, they can't fight
Speaker 1: for shit. They don't know anything about fighting. They don't know.
Speaker 1: And those old time guys, look, you're taking it. I'll
Speaker 1: give you one example. I don't want to go on
Speaker 1: to We're going to talk about boxing. Sugar Ray Robinson
Speaker 1: in his prime. Say he's twenty six years old, in
Speaker 1: his prime, fights Bernard Hopkins, the executioner. He's going in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Bernard Bernard. When he was
Speaker 1: twenty six, his record would have been like twenty nine
Speaker 1: and one or two with eighteen nineteen knockouts. Robinson's record
Speaker 1: same age would have been ninety one and one with
Speaker 1: seventy four knockouts. Yeah, fighting the best fighters that ever
Speaker 1: pore clubs on. Now, who's gonna win that fight? Like
Speaker 1: fighting a girl?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so that's such a crazy sport though,
Speaker 2: because the politics in it now.
Speaker 1: Well it was always oh you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you're never getting like you never see the best
Speaker 2: fighters fight the best fighters in prime.
Speaker 1: But in those days you saw it a lot more often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they almost had to fight each other. And those
Speaker 1: guys way back they were better trainers, there were I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just a whole other deal. Everybody was fighting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and today nobody's fighting. Ad they fight once a year, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're making the money, but any money. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no no comparison between the old guys. All you have
Speaker 1: to do is google some of those fights and watch them.
Speaker 3: Now, well, this year, before I wrap up this game,
Speaker 3: this year was the year of the thriller in Manila
Speaker 3: was in nineteen seventy four, nine seventy five round this
Speaker 3: game Fraser Ali three. But to wrap up this game,
Speaker 3: or to kind of like put a point to it, scoreless.
Speaker 3: First quarter, Pittsburgh mister field goal.
Speaker 1: There was a botch snap on another field goal.
Speaker 3: At halftime yep, there was a that was the first
Speaker 3: safety in Super Bowl history, interception on like the inside
Speaker 3: the five, and then back and forth, so two oh
Speaker 3: and halftime. The third quarter, Pittsburgh extended their lead with
Speaker 3: a touchdown from Franco Harris. Minnesota fumbled the halftime the
Speaker 3: kickoff at halftime, which was actually a Steelers He slipped
Speaker 3: the kicker on the kickoff at the halftime and then
Speaker 3: kind of squibbed it and then bounced off the Vikings
Speaker 3: guy and then the Steelers recovery. That's kind of the
Speaker 3: representative of this game. And then fourth quarter there was
Speaker 3: a block punt uh and then returned for a touchdown
Speaker 3: or recovered in the end zone for a touchdown, and then.
Speaker 1: The Vikings right, yes, the Vikings got it was a drive.
Speaker 1: The last minute.
Speaker 3: There was a six minute drive eleven play ending with
Speaker 3: a Larry Brown touchdown that really kind of in many
Speaker 3: ways is a summation of Terry Bradshaw's career. Art's a
Speaker 3: little bit sloppy back and forth, you don't know, but
Speaker 3: when push comes to SUV, when it's crunch time. Who
Speaker 3: do you want the ball in the hand A little
Speaker 3: bit the original? Yeah, and then so the Steelers won
Speaker 3: the game sixteen to six. One thing I need to
Speaker 3: mention is that this steel Curtain team defense during this
Speaker 3: game allowed less than one yard per carry and allowed
Speaker 3: no offensive scores.
Speaker 1: Less than one yard per carry. That's a joke. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. And with fran running around back there right.
Speaker 2: With what he only had one hundred two yards passes? Yeah,
Speaker 2: three three interceptions.
Speaker 3: Interceptions by mel Blunt, me and Joe Green and then
Speaker 3: that other cornerback who got called late man.
Speaker 1: What's the aftermath of this?
Speaker 2: Franco Harris was MVP.
Speaker 1: Awesome little story you had there. First super Bowl? Ye,
Speaker 1: Steelers first super Bowl. This is the kickoff. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: They would go on to win next year nineteen seventy
Speaker 3: five Super Bowl back to back, and then in seventy
Speaker 3: eight and seventy nine. Yeah, Chuck Noll became the youngest
Speaker 3: head coach to win a Super Bowl at the time,
Speaker 3: forty two.
Speaker 2: That was what was uh wow, FAA was thirty four, yeah, thirty.
Speaker 1: Six, So Nole was only forty two then, So when
Speaker 1: I was a rookie. He was like thirty six or seven. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Mcvade was thirty six when he won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Became the youngest ever thirty six. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then so this would be the third Viking Super
Speaker 3: Bowl loss. They would then lose again in Super Bowl eleven.
Speaker 3: So they went to four out of the first eleven
Speaker 3: super Bowls and didn't win a single one.
Speaker 2: Hopefully Kevin O'Connell get him going.
Speaker 1: J McCarthy. That it's Jenny McCarthy, right, yeah, yeah, see
Speaker 1: nol see that. See how he looked, and he looked
Speaker 1: like kind of like a twenty nose. Yeah, twenty nos
Speaker 1: Was that a movie they were doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the That was the Ryan Reynolds one.
Speaker 1: I just met her like at the last SAG Awards,
Speaker 1: the first time I never met her.
Speaker 2: I used to like her movie Fright Green Tomatoes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kathy Beats. She's good. She's good.
Speaker 2: She had a couple of scary movies too.
Speaker 1: You're a Kid, Oh my god, the one where she
Speaker 1: was chopping up. Yeah, conn, I was like a little
Speaker 1: kid when that came out. I was like terrified of her.
Speaker 2: It's failure to launch, Yeah, failure to lunch Now What
Speaker 2: are this? What are these Steelers of rank in the
Speaker 2: greatest dynasties in history? They got to be top three.
Speaker 2: They're the first of four, they're the first of six.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was the first team.
Speaker 1: To win these Hall of Famers. It's gotta be. They've
Speaker 1: got to be up there, right, I mean, I can't.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team?
Speaker 3: We're a little biased here and we probably.
Speaker 1: You know, that's it. That's the record.
Speaker 2: It's not four touchdowns in sixty six, but you.
Speaker 1: Know six got to be, you guys, it has no
Speaker 1: I mean, these Chiefs are looking damn good. They gotta
Speaker 1: slow him down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if they went again, they go three p.
Speaker 1: You see where McCaffrey just signed for two for nineteen
Speaker 1: a little extension. Hey, that kid is some athlete, doesn't
Speaker 1: he he is? I mean, he's not much bigger than you,
Speaker 1: is he? Probably when we were playing, we're very similar.
Speaker 1: I was probably about five pounds heavier. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a little lighter right now, but he'd run the forty.
Speaker 2: I was like a four to four eight guy fast,
Speaker 2: But my fat I was the quickest five to ten
Speaker 2: five shuttle.
Speaker 1: Well that means that's more.
Speaker 2: Change the direction. Well, depends. Everyone's got a strength. There's
Speaker 2: long speed, there's short speed. Yeah, everyone's got a superpower.
Speaker 2: Yeah at that level.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no. But Caffrey, I mean his versatility is insane.
Speaker 1: Oh man, his well, his dad was a great receiver.
Speaker 2: And McCaffrey used to cut out the toes. Yeah, remember
Speaker 2: because he liked he liked smaller, cleap. But I found
Speaker 2: out he told I hung out with them at a
Speaker 2: training camp. He said he did it because they was
Speaker 2: like the first to cut out your You had to
Speaker 2: x out when you have pressure points.
Speaker 1: So he was the first to do that. Well, you
Speaker 1: know when I used to say when I was when
Speaker 1: I was playing football, I used to say, what are
Speaker 1: we doing with these giant shoulder pads? What are we
Speaker 1: doing with these goddamn hip hip girdles? Why are we
Speaker 1: wearing this shit? It's slowing us down. You can't run
Speaker 1: us fast, and you know you didn't need it. Now
Speaker 1: they're not doing that. I used to wear the smallest pads.
Speaker 1: I could less surface area. You guess, especially as defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You get skinny on a guy, Yeah, go through the crack,
Speaker 1: go through the scene, split the whole, split it so
Speaker 1: a little on the legacy of this game.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned before there's twenty one total Hall of Famers,
Speaker 3: forty from the Steelers which I listed earlier, seven from
Speaker 3: the Vikings, Carl Eller, Bud Grant, Paul Krause, Alan Page,
Speaker 3: Fran Tarkenton, Mick Tinglehoff, and ron Yerry. After the game,
Speaker 3: Bud Grant quoted was saying, there were three bad teams
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: US Pittsburgh and the officials we talked about because it
Speaker 1: was a sloppy game. Sloppy yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So due to this game, NFL put in a rule
Speaker 3: where stadiums can't get the Super Bowl on their first year.
Speaker 1: So what was that?
Speaker 3: Because this game was moved from the super Dome, which
Speaker 3: wasn't finished, to Tulane Stadium, the NFL put in a
Speaker 3: rule that stadiums cannot get the Super Bowl on.
Speaker 1: Their very first year. They have to exist for a year.
Speaker 3: And something I would like to ask is, because this
Speaker 3: is the Purple People Eaters versus the Steel Curtain, a
Speaker 3: couple of all time unit nicknames. What are some of
Speaker 3: your favorite unit nicknames in NFL history. I've got a
Speaker 3: few here, but I'd love to hear what you guys think.
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom, Legion of Boom, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: If I don't even know.
Speaker 3: Greatest show on turf.
Speaker 1: Rams with Kurt Warner. Well, they were in The Fearsome
Speaker 1: Foursome fears Ye. Yeah, that was the Rams. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was back in the Jones. Yep, that was my dad
Speaker 1: liked those Rams. Yeah, those Rams were good.
Speaker 3: Monsters of the Midway. That's the Bears yep, New York
Speaker 3: Sack Exchange. Yes, the no Names, the seventy two Dolphins,
Speaker 3: Defense Dolphins, and.
Speaker 1: What was the Redskins? The Hogs? The Hogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Pony Express even though it's college.
Speaker 1: That was SMU. Well, my favorite college thing was the
Speaker 1: Chinese Bandits. Who's that The Chinese Bandits was google it?
Speaker 1: I forget it was Lsu No Texas A and m oh.
Speaker 1: The Chinese Bandits were a defensive They were Lsu Tigers.
Speaker 3: Most notably from fifty eight to fifty nine they were
Speaker 3: used briefly for the Army cadets.
Speaker 1: Wow. The Chinese Bandits, Wow, they don't have They don't
Speaker 1: really do that anymore because teams aren't they're not sticking
Speaker 1: around as long, so you're not getting the same guys
Speaker 1: playing for like Steele Curtain, they played ten, eight, six,
Speaker 1: seven years together.
Speaker 2: Guys are going after four making going to another team.
Speaker 2: It's a free agency world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in the college thing now with that
Speaker 1: portal thing that everyone's a free agent every year. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it'll work out. Yeah, it's pro pro sports.
Speaker 1: It's great to see the kids get paid. But they
Speaker 1: got to put some It's tough. It's Tod married with us.
Speaker 1: What we had so many people, but Bo Jackson was on.
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson was not that tall, No, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was built his thighs, he was built, dude. He
Speaker 1: had legs and he was so unbelievably fast.
Speaker 2: He was a fast guy in the field, like five pounds.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was incredible. Let's score the game.
Speaker 1: We got to score the game, and he left for me.
Speaker 1: I've got one leftover question what it would happen?
Speaker 3: So we hear a lot about there's chief celebrity fans
Speaker 3: John Hamm and Eric stone Street and Rob Wriggle and
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is there a little
Speaker 3: bit of a Steelers celebrity fan group in Holly?
Speaker 1: Would you got a group chat. I think there is.
Speaker 1: I heard there was a bar, okay where they all
Speaker 1: go and watch the game. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I failed to find out where it was. But there
Speaker 1: is one. There is one, Okay, do you watch who
Speaker 1: do you watch football with? By myself? It's like my dad.
Speaker 1: I never watched it with anyboney, talk to anyone. No,
Speaker 1: I just watch it. Yeah, my dad's like that. He
Speaker 1: never wanted to go to the game. No. Never. I
Speaker 1: don't go to the games either. They got a park. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's too much. I just watched it
Speaker 1: on TV.
Speaker 2: The coverage is so damn good too.
Speaker 1: Now it's better that you, you know, you miss everything
Speaker 1: you go to the game.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Let's name the game.
Speaker 3: Let me do this quick stat correction. Earlier on in
Speaker 3: the episode, you said modern Day. The show is Modern Family.
Speaker 1: That's okay, I said Modern Day. Yeah.
Speaker 2: More Day is the high school down the street that
Speaker 2: Matt Liner went to. Well, okay.
Speaker 3: And then the pilot that you were on with Tom
Speaker 3: Brady is called In the Game two thousand and four
Speaker 3: with Jennifer Love Hewittt. She played a single mother who
Speaker 3: was thrust into the spotlight and becomes an ESPN sideline reporter.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 2: Let's name the game this Uh, these are some names
Speaker 2: we came with with that we could potentially call this game.
Speaker 2: Usually the games we do have a historical name. This
Speaker 2: could be the Sloppy Bowl, the first one because it
Speaker 2: was the first of the dynasty for the Steelers, the
Speaker 2: Steel Curtain starter, the Franco Bull still made at two Lane,
Speaker 2: or the Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. What
Speaker 2: would you like to name this game? Or do you
Speaker 2: have something else?
Speaker 1: No, I don't have anything I would say. I would say, uh, look,
Speaker 1: women steal curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look women you say you said, look, lady, you
Speaker 2: gotta seven.
Speaker 1: You got a nine.
Speaker 2: You're trying to get me with the seven. All right,
Speaker 2: let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of
Speaker 2: all time? Let's score it steaks one to ten? What
Speaker 2: do you score this game?
Speaker 1: One to ten? Super Bowl stakes? Super Bowl game? What
Speaker 1: do you mean the stakes of the game.
Speaker 3: It's like a regular season game, low stakes preseason almost
Speaker 3: nothing playoff game has higher stake.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl We generally super Bowls generally.
Speaker 3: Are hitting in the high eights the mid nineties, depending
Speaker 3: on all Right, well.
Speaker 1: It's the first win, so stakes were high.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Dolphin the Vikings just lost a couple,
Speaker 3: so the stakes are higher for them too, because it's
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of the losers to score. I'd say ten for the
Speaker 1: Steaks star Power. What do you score the star Power fam? Ten?
Speaker 3: Also, Bruce Springsteen was asked to play the halftime show
Speaker 3: to climb it down. Turned it down, turned it down.
Speaker 3: It was the attribute to Duke Ellington by the Grand
Speaker 3: Leaks State Band. Ye, not the same star.
Speaker 1: Gameplay the gameplay? Are you talking that? That's talking about
Speaker 1: the music. No, the game, the game, the game, the game,
Speaker 1: like how how the game was? Oh so it was
Speaker 1: a sloppy game, right, sloppy.
Speaker 2: But if your defense guy could be a good game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of mistakes too, like fumble that
Speaker 3: are dropped and missed.
Speaker 1: This game, I'd say give it. I don't know, eight seven,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, go seven seven the game of the game. Steel
Speaker 2: Curtain versus Purple People Leaders probably two of the best
Speaker 2: nicknames for defenses of all time. Yeah, so one of ten?
Speaker 2: What are you scoring this, bad boy?
Speaker 1: Uh? I'd give it ten ten, ten because it's the
Speaker 1: two greatest names. It's got it for defense. What's the total?
Speaker 1: Nine two?
Speaker 2: The defense game? It was a defensive game. The average
Speaker 2: comes out to seven six y five along with Jack
Speaker 2: Kyler and my scores.
Speaker 1: Where does this lead on? We've done all these games?
Speaker 1: My god, you guys done a lot. We've got baseball, boxing, soccer. Wow,
Speaker 1: you got box right.
Speaker 3: In between Super Bowl seventeen Cowboys versus Bills and Super
Speaker 3: Bowl with the Rams versus Bengals. That feels that feels
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 2: The Double Donk game, the almost tie game.
Speaker 1: Just behind the can't wait game.
Speaker 3: That game is too high, that's way too high. And
Speaker 3: double Donk. Yeah, this is this feels right. We've got
Speaker 3: a new scoring system because shit got wonkey. This feels
Speaker 3: right good scoring.
Speaker 1: It's a good score. Yeah good. You should do some
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. I should?
Speaker 2: Huh, I just get I get terrified with my knees.
Speaker 1: I bet no. You know what, you do a lot
Speaker 1: of rolling on you start out. You can start out
Speaker 1: on your knees, so you know. I never hurt my
Speaker 1: knees doing jiu jitsu. Yeah, and I have niece three
Speaker 1: operations that shit. Try it because box is starting to
Speaker 1: hurt my shoulder. Yeah, it's shoulders jack. If I've foreseen it,
Speaker 1: you can't you know boxing. If two guys know boxing,
Speaker 1: the big guy is gonna win nine times out of ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hit you gotta.
Speaker 2: Hit him, come on four and sixty six.
Speaker 1: Maybe one game. But they do have weight divisions, and
Speaker 1: they do have weight divisions. You know, did we miss
Speaker 1: anything about this game or any of this? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. We got it all. I think so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are trying to remember where I was when I
Speaker 1: saw it. I know I saw it. There was a
Speaker 1: bar used to go to call the lamp post. That
Speaker 1: was probably there. We gotta get to the lamp post.
Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a games and names go to the
Speaker 2: lamp post and do another game.
Speaker 1: Well, the lamp post is not the same now, probably isn't.
Speaker 2: But we'll find it strip joint or something.
Speaker 1: But before that was was it was owned by a
Speaker 1: mob guy. You can make a lot of bets in there,
Speaker 1: Old Youngstown. I never heard of a place in Youngstown
Speaker 1: with a mob guys. Well, if you google Youngstown, google
Speaker 1: Youngstown Murdertown, USA, Murdertown, USA or Bombtown USA. When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, there were one hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: unsolved bombings of automobiles with people in them from called
Speaker 1: the Youngstown Tune Up.
Speaker 3: Sixty years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimetown USA.
Speaker 1: Why they got it the bomb on a crime Google
Speaker 1: the Youngstown.
Speaker 3: Youngstown had seventy five bombings eleven killings in a decade
Speaker 3: and no one seems to care, you know, after years
Speaker 3: of being called bombtown and murder town already by other publications,
Speaker 3: this one was Crimetown, USA, and it really stuck. As
Speaker 3: Johnny chitsielly, it was.
Speaker 1: A producer of mob Talk, I know, Youngs Time Mob Talk.
Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by the Youngstown Traveled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on that today, Young's Time up. You might
Speaker 2: get tuned up. And if and everyone might get tuned
Speaker 2: up right now, if you don't go on FX and
Speaker 2: watch clip that airs on Tuesday exclusively on Hulu, you're
Speaker 2: gonna get tuned up.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's where that tuned up probably comes from.
Speaker 1: Maybe I remember you just say you can get tuned
Speaker 1: up kid. No, that was for a car. No, but
Speaker 1: that also make you're tuned up about to get Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right right.
Speaker 2: You got toned. He got tuned up.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's that was he got tuned up ed. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for con.
Speaker 1: On this so much. This is awesome, man, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: He's so cool. He's a legend, legend and like.
Speaker 3: Athlete in his heart right he might have had his
Speaker 3: career as an actor and all these hit shows and
Speaker 3: all this stuff. But like the way he was talking,
Speaker 3: like and he was talking about football from the sixties.
Speaker 2: Like it was yesterday, like it was yesterday, and then
Speaker 2: he proceeded to put me in a Brasilian jiu jitsu move.
Speaker 2: After the show, I got footage of that. I feel
Speaker 2: you actually feeling like the when he breathed, did the breathing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, didn't want to hurt Al Bundy.
Speaker 2: I mean four touchdowns in nineteen sixty six in one game,
Speaker 2: no shot.
Speaker 1: Let's hit the old hot line.
Speaker 2: Remember that number is four two four two nine one
Speaker 2: two two nine zero.
Speaker 5: So boys love the Pods. My name is Ryan from
Speaker 5: Somerville Matts just want the jewels. He made my life
Speaker 5: growing up super easy and it was awesome growing up.
Speaker 5: The question I had is who was the smelliest guy
Speaker 5: in the locker room after practice games meeting?
Speaker 4: Who was that guy?
Speaker 5: Always just smells like man, that guy works hard, Thank
Speaker 5: you boys love the pods.
Speaker 2: That guy worked hard, so he smelled. Usually it was
Speaker 2: a big fat guys they smell. But the one who
Speaker 2: always I used to have a fuck problem with Amndola.
Speaker 2: He would because Danny never wore socks, and he'd wear
Speaker 2: new shoes all the time. But sometimes he'd wear a
Speaker 2: pair of shoes, like three or four times, would be
Speaker 2: in a meat and he have his feet on. My Yeo, bro,
Speaker 2: you don't have fucking socks on. I could smell your
Speaker 2: feet from here. You take those guys, well, you put
Speaker 2: some socks on. You're not that cool.
Speaker 1: What was the candle budget at the wide receiver room?
Speaker 2: We didn't even have. You couldn't have anything burning in.
Speaker 2: I think there's no burning of anything.
Speaker 3: So you think anola is your answer to this?
Speaker 2: He had some smelly little feet.
Speaker 3: Because I've I've heard in Granted, I was never in
Speaker 3: the building. I was never in the room. It's only
Speaker 3: secondary sources, but I have some sources.
Speaker 1: That say it was you.
Speaker 2: I don't smell. I don't smell I may had a
Speaker 2: messy locker room here and.
Speaker 3: There Kent State jersey shirts that you wear every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I took that right off and I was
Speaker 2: in the shower immediately. Okay, okay, I didn't smell and
Speaker 2: I had good fragrances. I used to steal Tom's perfume.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to call and what is your favorite story.
Speaker 1: Of a vacation with some of your teammates on the
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 2: Patriots favorite story of vacation? Remember when me, Danny and
Speaker 2: Tom went to Montana for a fourth of July to train.
Speaker 2: We had like three days of hard training. Tom left
Speaker 2: to me and Danny state extra day and like there's
Speaker 2: so many activities with Tom, Like everything is scheduled out.
Speaker 1: You got two hours.
Speaker 2: For this, an hour for that, you know, or we
Speaker 2: have we have dinner at this time, we have to
Speaker 2: go do this at that time he left. We literally
Speaker 2: just took two quads and just went up the mountain
Speaker 2: and uh, we were doing like donuts and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I rolled one of the quads fully broken,
Speaker 2: left at the person's house we're staying at.
Speaker 1: I didn't say a word, just got in the car
Speaker 1: and left. How does.
Speaker 3: How does the invite for that go? Is that a
Speaker 3: text or is that like a tap on the shoulder
Speaker 3: from someone else? That's what Tom would text me, Tom
Speaker 3: text Tom text yeah two.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's funny that you mentioned that story because we did
Speaker 3: it years ago. We did a trip to Israel and
Speaker 3: you left a day early and after you were gone,
Speaker 3: it was the best day.
Speaker 1: All right, last one.
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I'll get go on. My question is for Julian. Julian,
Speaker 4: I know that when you were playing football you have
Speaker 4: a pretty strict diet about what you would eat. Your
Speaker 4: very health conscious and all that. I am curious if
Speaker 4: there was anything that you ate during that time that
Speaker 4: you hated so much the you have no interest in
Speaker 4: taking a vie.
Speaker 2: I used to eat alligator because it has like these
Speaker 2: rich omegas and it's also got like more protein than
Speaker 2: a fish. I remember eating that and I was like, first,
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to like trick myself the first time
Speaker 2: I eat it, like, oh, it kind of tastes like chicken.
Speaker 2: It's good. Then after eating it for like eight weeks
Speaker 2: straight on every Tuesday, I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can eat this somewhere it doesn't taste like chicken.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fishy. So alligator or alligator alligator cut that.
Speaker 1: That's a great answer. What a game.
Speaker 2: Thanks aged to Ed. Make sure you watch FX is Clipped.
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