WEBVTT - Super Bowl IX with Ed O'Neill | Steelers vs. Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team?

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're a little biased here, and we got six

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's it. That's the record.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not four touchdowns in sixty six. But on today's

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<v Speaker 2>episode legendary actors starring in two of the greatest sitcoms

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<v Speaker 2>of all time, Ed O'Neil pulled that thought. We're covering

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl nine Pittsburgh still is for some Minnesota vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was still following things pretty closely. How mean

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<v Speaker 1>was mean? Joe Green? Mean as hell? My whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>was knock the shit out of you and I'll progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of tackling, I would hit him with a forearm.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Kamakazi football.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have been a great special teamer.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably they good doggy back Doggy thraining. Who's the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>cameo you guys ever had? Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Lawrence Taylor, Kenny Stabler, Bubba Smith. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a thing where we come up against each other. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a goal line stand and when we rehearsed it,

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't go back. It was like getting in with

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<v Speaker 1>an actual Grizzly Bear. And finally I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>guys and said, Hey, this ain't gonna work at Chris Farley.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Chris can't remember that seedy Farley stories. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the greatest Farley story you'll ever hear in

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Games with Names.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Julian Edelman, that's Kyler, and we are on the

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<v Speaker 2>search to find the greatest game of all time. Jack's

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<v Speaker 2>back in North Carolina today. He's still stat correcting, though, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>He's blown up mine. He's blown off the phone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's with us.

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<v Speaker 1>He blown it up. He blown it up.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode, we're covering Super Bowl nine. The Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>still is for some Minnesota purple people. Eater Vikings defensive

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<v Speaker 2>line with former Steeler and legendary actor star of FX's

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<v Speaker 2>clipped Ed O'Neil. On this episode, we get into talking

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<v Speaker 2>old Polkai football.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys know, touchdowns nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 2>In one game, one game, in one game, City Championship,

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<v Speaker 2>City Championship. What it was like starring in two of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest sitcoms, sitcoms of all time, we get into

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<v Speaker 2>talking Steelers, you get an inside perspective. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>was on Chuck Noles first yep Steelers team and training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean Joe Greens first year or two? Mean Joe Green?

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<v Speaker 1>We asked him, is me and Joe Green? That mean

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<v Speaker 1>you get the insune in and you'll know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline.

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<v Speaker 2>Great episode. Look forward to having you guys. Listen, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>January fifteenth, nineteen seventy five, two Lane Stadium, New Orleans, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Still Curtain versus the Purple People, leaders for all the Marbles.

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<v Speaker 1>On a cold, wet afternoon in the Big Easy, A

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty is born before our eyes. This is super Bowl Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great. Welcome to games with Names.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a very special guest, an idol of not

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<v Speaker 2>just me, my father, anyone who's over thirty. Their parents

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<v Speaker 2>all grew up with him in our household. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he went on to go on and do another crazy

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<v Speaker 2>sitcom that took over and it was like the best

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<v Speaker 2>sitcom modern day. Marywood Children. We have Ed O'Neil, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, Thank you, my pleasure, Jewel. We got Kyler over here.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Leah and Jackson. I didn't meet you actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we are looking at Super Bowl nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers versus the Minnesota Vikings Classic game. Now, why

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<v Speaker 1>why do you like this game? I like all the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls? Yeah, you know, and this was not too

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<v Speaker 1>long after I got cut. Yeah, so I was still

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<v Speaker 1>following things pretty closely. And you know, I knew all

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<v Speaker 1>about frank O Harris and those guys because they came

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<v Speaker 1>a year after I got cut. And I'm when I

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<v Speaker 1>got cut, I said, I got cut. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of coffee with them. Basically, That's about it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was still, you know, sitting in the bar

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<v Speaker 1>with my buddies watching these games. Yeah, and glad I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't playing at that point. Yeah. Well you had to

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<v Speaker 1>be vested because you got drafted with me and Joe Green.

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<v Speaker 1>You got drafted with a lot of these Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of famers, and so you got to enjoy. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was Chuck noles first year, right, it was noles

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<v Speaker 1>first year, and so you got.

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<v Speaker 2>To you had his first training camp and you got

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<v Speaker 2>to know these people. So you get vested because you

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<v Speaker 2>have relationships with these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. Yeah, I mean it was you know, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very intense. You know you've been to those camps.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't make a whole lot of friends.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a job, yes, but it was it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, as opposed to college. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know why you would think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed the training

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<v Speaker 1>down there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what people don't realize because I was a

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<v Speaker 2>very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent,

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<v Speaker 2>so they signed you exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>last round of our draft, which some would argue it's

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<v Speaker 2>better to be a free agent because you get two

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<v Speaker 2>years contract instead of locking you.

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<v Speaker 1>In for a third.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback. But

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<v Speaker 2>the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's

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<v Speaker 2>ninety guys, they got to cut it down to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three and you're sitting where you did you used to

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<v Speaker 2>play the numbers game, You're sitting in training camp. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to keep this guy, They're going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had I had a situation where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if yours was the same as ours,

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<v Speaker 1>but ours the Steelers they would put a board up

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<v Speaker 1>and if your name wasn't on it, you were cut.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of a nice way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't see your name as this guy

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<v Speaker 1>got cut. You know, people don't know you. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know you got cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room and they have this guy with everyone

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<v Speaker 2>calls the Turk. It's probably like he's like an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>assistant of assistant of another assistant. And he comes up

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<v Speaker 2>to your locker and he taps on your shoulder and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, hey, head coach wants to see you. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>your playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I had that. See they went to they

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<v Speaker 1>went through when it started out, okay, they had so

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<v Speaker 1>many guys they cut the way I just mentioned. But

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<v Speaker 1>then if you got along some then it turned into uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, coach snow would like to see you

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<v Speaker 1>in his office in your playbook. That's what happened to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so but then there, you know how nice they are

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<v Speaker 1>to you when you're going there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're going a different route.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're just not well with me, it was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you never played outside linebacker and you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>the team and learn the position at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard to do. I said, yeah. He said, well

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<v Speaker 1>I think they I think I think I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You can go to the Eagles if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to and have don't give you a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down

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<v Speaker 1>the PA Pike. But I need to know right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what happened to my thinking. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you're gonna what I want to drive a

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<v Speaker 1>car the Philadelphia No, I said, I've done. I'm finished.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot. Well that was it, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting sick of it, to be honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>played for two colleges. I had some knee problems, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know what it was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even like coach as much, you know, I got I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I like Noel. He was when I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to know him much, but he was a real gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought he was a nice guy. He was,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had coaches in college I didn't like at

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<v Speaker 1>all in high school too. I had to start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was my fault. It was to that point. Gee,

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<v Speaker 1>I was finished. I said. He said, well, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do? I said, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>not this. And then I remember when I went to

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<v Speaker 1>my back to the dorm room I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego State. He made the team as a defensive back

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<v Speaker 1>and he only played one year. I think he broke

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<v Speaker 1>his back, but he made it. But I went in

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, what happened? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was backing up and the guy came in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they said, well, the car's out there. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not from Pittsburgh, and I but I knew a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a friend in Pittsburgh. So I said, now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, okay, we'll drive

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<v Speaker 1>you to Pittsburgh. You know it's not too it's Latrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out because your cleats are there in the locker,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got a lot of swag for you. We

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<v Speaker 1>got great jerseys and T shirts and hats and shorts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I don't want any of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you don't want the it's good stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it. I'm gonna wear it. I'm not wearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the cleats either, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and

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<v Speaker 1>I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was trying. I didn't want to go home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was what it was. So I didn't you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go home? You know, I mean, that was all

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up. I thought, I don't want to go home

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<v Speaker 1>and have to explain this. So I said, uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was still in the summertime. So I directed them up

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<v Speaker 1>a street and I saw a bar. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>local bar with the door open the summertime, the doors

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<v Speaker 1>no air, you know, the door were open. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>right here, my friend lives right around that bar. Just

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<v Speaker 1>drop me off here, you sure, you know? They kind

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<v Speaker 1>of said, yeah, give me the bag audios. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went in the bar and it was like two o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon, and they were like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, locals. It was a local joint. Ye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I walk in. I'm twenty three years old. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't know me. I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking was this good? I order a beer and

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<v Speaker 1>they got the TV up high, you know, on the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're watching it and the the news comes on

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<v Speaker 1>and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had a good day, he had the golf club, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm watching it and then they went to the

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<v Speaker 1>sports and of course it's Pittsburgh, so they go linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers, and there's my

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<v Speaker 1>picture and these guys are in the in the bar

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<v Speaker 1>and they look. They go, you're at O'Neill. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, your money's good here. Now they're all

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<v Speaker 1>buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and some some car with some girl with

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<v Speaker 1>a state hoopie pulling me over. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know my name at this point. And the guy

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<v Speaker 1>looks in and I think I had my shirt off

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, that was almost naked. And I'm driving though,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, you know, I had my drivers. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>did you get cut today from Pittsburgh. I said, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, miss can you drive? She said, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he's just driving around. And he said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>drive this guy home? And she said, I'll take him.

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<v Speaker 1>Says he knows somebody, and he said, letting him go

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<v Speaker 1>because it was you know, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers. They love them Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you got cut, it doesn't make any You're

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<v Speaker 1>still part of the team. You're still part of the

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<v Speaker 1>team anyway. That's my I don't think i've told that

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<v Speaker 1>story ever.

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<v Speaker 3>That So you were a defensive wineman in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I played mansome joker middle guard, middle guard on defense, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I played defensive end and I played tight end

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<v Speaker 1>in college. Okay. You know I just went around like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was the you said that You mentioned you

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<v Speaker 3>were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp?

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<v Speaker 1>What was That's all you got? That's all they had

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, I couldn't be a cornerback. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't quick enough. I mean I ran a four seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty in sixty eight. That's that's my number though, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's fast. I was about two thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four seven for seven, then two thirty that's like a

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<v Speaker 2>two sixty guy running four six.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I did. But you guys didn't train.

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<v Speaker 2>For it like that. That was athlete, that was that

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<v Speaker 2>was fast. Then I don't know, you only had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of four four guys in the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know when I did, I did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>narrated the thing on uh Peyton Manning, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>timeline and when I and it was so nicely written.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very impressed with it. And this was not

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. And I was struck by the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he was coached. And you were too right. Your dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a coach. My dad was a coach. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was never coached. Not I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>was really ever coached. We just played pickup ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we went to high school there was coaches there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a long story. They didn't really coach me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just my whole idea was knock the shit

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<v Speaker 1>out of you and I'll progress. So it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to learn football. The game has changed now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now, that used to be the old that used

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<v Speaker 2>to be the ultimate equalizer of the guy who will.

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<v Speaker 1>Even then it didn't work right. Even then, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work right. Because you could hit a guy like on

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<v Speaker 1>a reverse. Say they run around and you're in and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a clean shot, and instead of tackling him,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hit him with a forearm and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go down, you know, they'd spin and keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like that, you know, it was this.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like Kamakazi football that you would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a great special teamer. Probably. I used to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, back when I first got in the league, they

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<v Speaker 2>used to have wedges. Oh yeah on the kickoffs. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the whole new thing kickoff rules. Yeah, practice kickoff, but

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be electric. There'll be a lot of touchdowns. But

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<v Speaker 2>the old days, you'd have three or four guys and

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<v Speaker 2>your job was to run sixty yards and you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the three hundred and twenty pound guard that's in the

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<v Speaker 2>wedge full speed. It's like there's this guy, Bubba Vantrone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's as a special team coordinator. I think for Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>That dude used to run down. He was two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and five pounds, He could run fast. He was probably

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<v Speaker 2>a four to three guy. And I swear he knocked

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<v Speaker 2>himself out at least every game at once. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>he did his job. Yeah, he was a badass at

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<v Speaker 2>doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were the guys when I was playing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there were hitters today. I mean the game

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<v Speaker 1>has really gotten so much more sophisticated. I mean really,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean athletically, size wise, speed wise, and even when

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<v Speaker 1>I played, it was a lot faster than college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like if they're like I'd getten a scrimmage

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<v Speaker 1>and some plays I never even got touched because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't where I should be. They'll leave you alone. If

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<v Speaker 1>you got in the action, that's where you got hit.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rules, yeah, and it through any I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>like with anything over time. The evolution, the technology, the information,

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<v Speaker 2>the studying of the older habits, the studying of the

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<v Speaker 2>newer athlete, the new penalties, the new rules, everything dictates

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<v Speaker 2>the type of game. Let's jump into how how did

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<v Speaker 2>it go down when you sign as a priority free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>You went to Youngstown after going to Ohio University, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was a mac daddy. I went to Kent State

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<v Speaker 2>used to play against Ohio. Actually went to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went to Kent State. I went up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd watched games and I watched, Oh you play Kent State.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody won in a field goal. I forget. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you won a field goal, like fifty one yard

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<v Speaker 1>field goal or something. It was unbelievable and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy, but I couldn't show it because I

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<v Speaker 1>was with my sisters at Kent State. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stay. It was a nice school. It was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. I mean, I was your coach. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>strange coach. I had, Doug Martin. No, I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>a different guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the cool thing is so you probably you're sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Saban went to Kent State. I think he was out

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<v Speaker 2>there seventy he was seventy two was his last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the MAC championship team, the last MAC

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<v Speaker 2>championship team before I got there. But uh Ohio was

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<v Speaker 2>always like the did they have cool halloweens at Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>University back then?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was like the thing. And Saint Patti's Day

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<v Speaker 1>was a big day. Yeah, they died the Hawking River

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<v Speaker 1>Green Yeah, oh man, it was. It was, oh you suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fun school it was, and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, beautiful Hawking River Valley and all the buildings, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it looked like it was made in eighteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really nice. I even got in trouble, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean trouble with the coaches playing there, because when I

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<v Speaker 1>came from Youngstown, our manner of playing in Youngstown was

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<v Speaker 1>what we talked about, and it wasn't that way at OU.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I did very well at middle guard at

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<v Speaker 1>high school because I was only about one point eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was fast. It was very quick, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>play over the center and i'd bang them and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the field, i'd go, you know, or i'd

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<v Speaker 1>shoot a gap, blow a gap. When I got to Ohiou,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a really good middle guard that had graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Lance Tigger. It's a great name, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And he was not a big guy, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>very good player. And his method was he would sit

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<v Speaker 1>back on his haunches at the snap like a baseball catcher,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would kind of use his forums as his

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<v Speaker 1>hands to gep yeah, as a shiver, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>could go when I was long, and I couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was on all four and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be going forward. And they kept making me like

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<v Speaker 1>play like they wanted me to play like him. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not him. I'm not built like him, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was my right off the bat. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>was starting as a freshman. Yeah, I mean, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was illegal, so I couldn't actually get in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were in spring ball. I was first team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then didn't you because you played freshman ball, you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't start, didn't you used to play against Roger stall Back?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I played against Staubach in an actual game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>explained When was that he was Let's see, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been sixty seven. It was a military game, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was at Pensacola Naval Station. He was doing his

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<v Speaker 1>bit his time after Annapolis, and they had like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three all American receivers. I think one was from

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<v Speaker 1>usc and one was somewhere else. So he just for

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<v Speaker 1>him to throw to, you know. Yeah, And that was

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<v Speaker 1>the longest goddamn game I ever played in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw every play and if you did, if he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't throw, he just ran around back there, chased them,

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<v Speaker 1>chase him, and I finally hit him out of bounds

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<v Speaker 1>illegally because I chased them, chased them, chased him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped out and I just kept coming and it

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<v Speaker 1>was right on his sidelines, and there was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Lynch who was the heavyweight boxing champ of Annapolis. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to kill me, you know, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelink. And I said, hey man, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I chased the son of a bitch. You know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit him. I'm good friends with Roger.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Oh yeah, yeah, he's a studied came and talked

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<v Speaker 2>to our team a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, we'd always.

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<v Speaker 2>Have someone influential that has had a lot of success

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<v Speaker 2>in sport or something to come talk to the team.

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<v Speaker 2>And he he was an interesting guy that just you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell he Dudley do right crosses his t's do

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<v Speaker 2>You could just that, And he was you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>he's a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he'd said, gosh, darn it, he whizz come out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm you know, my out Youngstown, Ohio baby Youngstown.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a wonderful guy. And that guy was such

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<v Speaker 1>a great great He's the best I ever played over

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<v Speaker 1>or played against Himyah, there's no doubt he was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you who who was your team growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in Youngstown? If if you was that because the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns were really good then Giants were because because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you saw on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I saw The Violent World of Sam Huff. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that. No, Oh my god, I'm so old.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the first things out in this

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<v Speaker 1>in this format. And they had a linebacker from West

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Virginia who went to the Giants, Sam Huff, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they we all know Sam Huff, I don't I do do, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was called The Violent World of Sam Huff

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<v Speaker 1>and they miked him. No one had ever been miked

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>before and it was it was like an hour long

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>special of him middle linebacker, and that got us all gone. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know, it was great. Yeah yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>talking bullshit and everything, you know, talking ship. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so. But even before that, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I must have been my dad. Somebody liked the Giants

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh and we didn't like the Browns. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And I went up to training camp. I

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<v Speaker 1>had my dad take me up because it was Hiram College,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know, he was from Kent to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>summer workouts and Jim Brown was playing. So I in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, I've never asked for an autograph in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>not before or since. And I was I think twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came out, you know, he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those dog day afternoons, right, and

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he's sitting there and he's got his pads here, and

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 1>he's just and he had that mohawk. The guy looked

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like he was great. You know. The guy was amazing looking.

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad said, go again, no, I've got so

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<v Speaker 1>I went over to him and he looked up a

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<v Speaker 1>him and he saw me coming, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a happy look. And I said autograph. He said

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<v Speaker 1>not now walked away. I never asked for another a

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<v Speaker 1>graph in my life. And later I met Jim and

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<v Speaker 1>got to be kind of friendly with them. Much later,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think when one of the elections, I

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>ran into him and I told him that and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, damn, I'm so sorry. You know, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to do that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>In Jim's defense though, like you said, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>second the second.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice was it was the second practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy's been running. They're running those guys like dogs. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in those day. That's when training camp. You look at

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<v Speaker 2>a training camp nowaday, you laugh. I had double days

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 2>early in my career for three years, and we jumped

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<v Speaker 2>over to the new rule where you can't have one

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<v Speaker 2>every five days, and it's changed. That's when like training camp,

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.199
<v Speaker 2>these guys. They used to get these guys in crazy shape.

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 2>They'd work them to death. There was no analytics on

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<v Speaker 2>loadage or anything. It was more like when the coach

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 2>got tired of yelling, that's when practice was over.

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>That was about it. In fact, that day they scrimmaged

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and Brown. You know, of course everyone's watching Jim Brown

0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.679
<v Speaker 1>and Frank Ryan was the quarterback. Remember Frank Ryan, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching Jim Brown, and he wasn't doing anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd come out of the huddle, he'd be in the huddle,

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the huddle would break, he'd hardly move, take one or

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<v Speaker 1>two steps, and then he just like he wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get in a three point maybe very slowly. Ball would

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<v Speaker 1>be snapped and he'd walk off to one side or

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<v Speaker 1>the other and they'd either hand it to a running

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<v Speaker 1>back or Ryan would throw a pass. He didn't move,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, he's not even practicing, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>one play he walked off to the side, Ryan went

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw, and then he drifted out and he

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<v Speaker 1>got a little screen out to the left right by us,

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and he turned. He's coming hard like running towards us.

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 1>And then he's cutting it up and there's two guys

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>coming to hit him with the sidelines. One went low,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>he hit the guy with his knee, and the other

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>guy came high and he punched the guy in the neck,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hard, and dropped both of them and took

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<v Speaker 1>two more steps and stepped out of bounds and then

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<v Speaker 1>he walked back. That was Jim Brown's thing. Oh my god,

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it was something to say. Man. Was he was bigger

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>than those guys. He was to twenty five to thirty,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and he was faster than every waist. Was this big?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he the best football player you ever saw.

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>That I ever saw. Yeah, there's no no question.

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Belichick talks about how good Jim Brown was.

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I knew Lawrence Taylor pretty well. You know,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence did our show and he was with us for

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a week. That's the best way to play football. Have

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a show where you're you're in that ridiculous uniform there

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and you never get hit. Pokai pocai jack. Oh you

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>got that? My god, that's great. What are you talking about.

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 2>My dad is the Al Bundy of pop twelve year

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>old Pop Warner football coaches. He never played football, but

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>he thinks he's Al Bundy of the coaches of Pop

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Warner of twelve year olds.

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.239
<v Speaker 3>So for the audio listeners, Jewels just put on a

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 3>Polkai varsity jacket.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>No, that THEI jacketing. I didn't see that over there.

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>What memories do you think about when you first see

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>this jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had so much fun on that show. I

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>mean that show. It was a crazy show. The writers

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>creators of that show was a Jewish guy from from

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn and a black guy from North Carolina, and together

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>they were like they look like gas station attendants, but

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>they were brilliantly funny guys and just completely out to

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>lunch the whole thing, you know. But we were laughed

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>so hard. I mean it was it was really hysterical.

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 1>And you know, every year we thought we were going

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to go you know, like every season I thought, two

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>three shows, they're going to tell us to go home. Yeah,

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>and it just kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was an eleven year run, you guys had,

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 2>which spanned a lot of my childhood. But getting in

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 2>that routine, that that day to day life when you know,

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 2>because I remember being with Grown for ten years, you know,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 2>when you come to work, he knows when I'm in

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a bad mood. You know, when they're in a bad mood.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You're in the locker room. Then you got to go

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>out to practice and perform. And you know what I mean,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>did you have any of those moments where you kind

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 2>of just knew what was going on?

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, how was the day to day life? Well, when

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you're very similar to playing ball, I mean without the contact, yeah,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, you know, and of course it's it's

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:35.919
<v Speaker 1>guys and gals. Yeah, so that's that's obviously different, but

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're still performing. You know, you've got a live audience,

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and so you kind of it's a teamwork thing. You

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>really do have to have that kind of sense of

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>a team and uh, you know, when one's down, you

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>try to pick them up, and you know, yeah, it's

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>it's very similar actually. And also the discipline that you

0:26:55.119 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 1>that you do develop, you know, somehow playing football help me,

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I you know, like even now this

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>thing I just did FX promotes like you can't believe,

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and I do it so.

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Ed is talking about the news show that premiered I

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>think this week. Yesterday I watched the first episode Clipped.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>First two episodes came out on Hulu. Awesome story about

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the whole ending of the empire of the Sterling family, Clippers,

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the Clippers owner. We all remember that in twenty thirteen,

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you know it's I watched that. I only watched one episode.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's ours kind of that's the table. Yeah.

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But that first episode, I mean.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>It's l A, you know, it's l A and all

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the and all the underbelly of LA and oh it is.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was really cool, like you got me

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 2>to forget that you were Albundy modern family dad.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad, you know. And good acting. That's called,

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, good acting. Well, you know, believe, just sit

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>down and they give you the piece and then they

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>make you. They did something to your skin. Apparently this

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>guy had sort of bumpy something and then tan like

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>he liked the sun, and then the glasses and all that.

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>And then I listened to his voice, which is kind

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of I wasn't really trying to imitate, how you couldn't

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>but sort of a pedantic way of speaking. You know,

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>like I n g endings were pronounced and a little whiny,

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I but that's all I did. Yeah,

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and everything was in the script. The script was really good.

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, how do you remember your lines when you had

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 2>go through the script?

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Is it hard?

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I had some cameos and I get so nervous

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>hard when I'm learning the script.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>But here's what you do. You do you just learned

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>scene by scene. So in other words, if you're doing

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 1>two scenes in a day or whatever your whatever your

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>job is, you just learned that scene and you just

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>do that scene. And then the next day, you know,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you have another scene, so you take it. You know,

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just design to create a story. At the end

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of the day. You don't have to worry about down

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the road. You know, that's someone else's job.

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>So like on Wednesday, install it's just first and second down,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>On Thursday's third down, and then Friday it's red area exactly,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and then we just put it all together at the.

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<v Speaker 1>End of the day. That you're a genius, you know, Well,

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a.

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Big trend in Hollywood with a lot of sports scripted

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 3>content happening in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, are you talking about my experience. I did a

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>movie called Little Giants My Favorite, which is great. That's

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>where I met John Madden because John's in it. I'll

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you funny this is. I mean, I'm just all

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>over the place. But when I met John, you know,

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I was just high high and oh god, this is hilarious. Actually,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the first time I met John was in New York

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>City and I'm walking up the street by Central Park

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>with a friend of mine named J. J. Johnston, who's

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a legendary passed on now legendary guy had been in prison,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>came out, became an actor, one of David Mammott's guys. Yeah,

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>one of my greatest characters in the world that I knew.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And we're walking up and he's got to buy suitcases

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>because he's going with Al Pacino to London to do

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>American Buffalo in London. And he didn't have any luggage

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>because he's from Chicago, but he just took a bag,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>so he got this cheap suitcases. I'm lugging one, he's

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>lugging the other. We're going back to where he's staying

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and I hear him go John John Jesus Christ. It's

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>John John and Madden's caddy corner. He goes, hey, what

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Come here, you motherfucker. It comes over.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>He says, how you doing? You know he's a big guy,

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>John Big, how you doing? Goodness? See, yes, it's good

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to see your kid. You're looking great. Where you're headed.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going down here. I got to meet a

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>guy for I got a little meeting with some guys here.

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But some uh you know Ed O'Neil. He said, no,

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I know who you are. I haven't had the pleasure,

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, ed, John the great John Madden gave me

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he loves say hello. I said, okay, but he's looking

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>at me like he looks scared. And I thought, what

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the hell, because we look like muggers. You know, we

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>look like this guy if you saw him. So now

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>John says, hey man, I gotta go, and he said,

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, John, lovely to see you. Go ahead, kid,

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a great guy. He goes down the street and I said,

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>how do you know John Man? He said, I don't,

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>John l He was terrified. I thought we were gonna

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.959
<v Speaker 1>mug him. So now much later I'm working with him,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, in Little Giants. And then I did that

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>timeline thing years after that, so by this time, I

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>know his son Mike, who's well, the greatest guy. You know,

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Mike's a great guy. So Mike called John and said,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw this thing timeline and on Peyton's comeback with

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Wes Walker Walker and the neck injury. So he sent

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it to John. So John sent it to Mike, and

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>then Mike called me. He said he thinks it's one

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of the best things he ever saw on pro football. Wow,

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean the way it was written. I narrated it. Yeah,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you got to check it out. So it's only an

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>hour long. So anyway, I was interviewed about it and

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, I was never emotional about quitting football. Never.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't miss it. I didn't give a shit about it.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And I'm narrating this thing and I'm almost finished with

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the narration. We almost went all the way through. And

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like not quite twilight in the in the show,

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's the sun is set, but it's

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>still light. Yeah, And they're in this abandoned stadium, I

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>think Tennessee or somewhere, and he's doing a mock drive

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.719
<v Speaker 1>down the field with his receivers Welker and so and

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>so in the running back and he's making up linebackers.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, watch the mic line. I never heard that term,

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Mike linebacker, but they're saying that, and

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the he's doing the omaha thing, you know, and they're

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>driving down the field and it's it's kind of relaxed,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about it, and the dialogue is there's

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>no place in the world he'd rather be than here

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>right now doing this something like that, And I actually

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>got emotional. I mean, the the memories of playing football

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>with my friends as a kid and everything. It was

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like almost overwhelming. I can hardly talk. And I thought,

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>where did this come from? You know? Yeah, I loved it.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It was great. You don't lose that, you know, you

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>think you get away from it, but you really don't now,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's what you miss the most. Yeah, that's what

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you miss the most, you know, is your friends and

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>your camaraderie.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the locker room time. I mean, I miss competing

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>at a high level. I miss Oh well, yeah you

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>did it at the highest level. You missed that. But

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you can find that in other ways. Yeah, it's the

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>real you know, getting yelled at with your boys, winning

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>a game with the boys, the flight home after a

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>road victory with the boys, you know, in the team.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. You know. I met Brady when he

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>was at Michigan. Yeah, and he was gonna They were

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>playing the Rose Bowl. They were out in Pasadena, and

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I got a call from my ex high school coach

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>named Jerry Hanlon he was now the defensive backfield coach

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. Yeah, and he said, hey, you know I

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>was doing married. He said, would you come out to

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>meet the guys. It's like two or three days before

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the game. I forget how they were playing, but oh yeah, sure.

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So I drive out and I meet the team, and

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I meet Brady and you know, he was he was.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He was just handing off. Yeah, in Michigan. You can't imagine.

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He had to come back in in the Orange Bowl

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the next year.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I think was that it Yeah, okay, he would come

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>back kid, Yeah, but I mean he was. And then

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I did a pilot with him with oh god, what

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>was her name? A beautiful girl from Texas? Anyway, it

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>was Jessica. No, Uh, I was playing her father and

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>uh and it was her story was and I was,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was along for the series if it went,

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>which I prayed to god it wouldn't go after we

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>shot it. But they had Brady there and they had

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker Errington, and they had the kid, a kid

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>from Dallas and uh and they were like so happy.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I think Tom had won one super

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Bowl and uh that's when you know, I said, I

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>met you at Pasadena. He didn't, you know, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you no, he knew, he knew, but it was he

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>was just beginning really, you know, although he won that

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>one super Bowl, yeah, I may never win another, you know,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but he did six more. Amazing, crazy, just amazing.

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 3>You're you're John Madden's story reminds me a lot of

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 3>We had Eric stone Street on the show and he

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>had almost the exact same story as you meeting John Madden,

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 3>but meeting Tom Brady.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It was him and Brent.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Veach, who was the GM of the Kansas City Cheeess

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Brett used Eric as a means to talk to Tom Brady.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so funny.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 2>They called him two inch or something. Yeah, Erict two

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 2>inches just to say hi, and then went back two inch.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Stone Street's funny.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>He's amazingly funny, and he's he's a very creative guy.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Very creative, I mean amazingly so.

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 2>And he's got a knowledge of everything about the chiefs.

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He can he can pick the Royals, of which he's

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a part owner.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Now yeah, is he a part owner?

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>He got bought a little share. Yeah, I don't know

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>how much. He didn't tell me. Geez. He's a great guy.

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>He is a really great guy. He's a great guy.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>You know who you should play? I just thought about it.

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>He played Sterling. You gotta you gotta play Chuck Nole.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all these little could you play Chuck?

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>No I could play Chuck Nole because I mean, I

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>mean I don't look like Chuck. Oh, I didn't look

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>like Sterling. But you know, Noel was a wine connoisseur too.

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was a red wine guy, A very

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>very sophisticated guy, not like your normal coach quiet, but

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, almost like he reminded me of like some

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of bird of prey. I mean, in his look,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>had the eyes like like a ha hawk that pointed

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>nose thing. Yeah. Him at Bradshaw. You know, they didn't

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>they didn't get along at all. Yeah, I think they.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I think they cleared it up at the end though,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't like Handriddy for some reason. Terry Terry

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was the coolest guy you ever would meet, you know,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 1>remember him, Yeah, he was a notre dame guy.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 3>But he played this year a little bit Terry. Yeah,

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 3>in this two thousands, nine seventy four season.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a sidearm thing, but it was

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>this year.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Man, little giants. What about Wayne's World? I used to

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>love I loved jun Waynesbrood, I love d Waynesborod.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I I did that. I just did that as a

0:37:55.719 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>favor to my manager's company, Rosting Gray. They produced that

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>movie and it was all about you know, uh Dana

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Carvey and uh Mike Mike Myers and and then the

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>back when I did it, they weren't getting along and

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they you know, it was almost like Laverne and Shirley.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>One would come out, then the other would come out.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>They do the scene, then they go back. You know.

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 1>It was like I knew both of them. Yeah, because

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we were we had the same managers. That's awesome though,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that because I've had that.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I've had teammates where they don't get along, we don't

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>get along, yeah, but to come together to make us

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>something good, and that's hard that's hard, that's real.

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>He wrote. Mike wrote that thing for you know, I

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was that whack job that ran stem mckita's donut shop. Yeah,

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and I remember I had that one speech in the

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>dead of winter. When you stab them, man, you can

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>see the steam rising from the wounds. Mike was seriously

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it was funny. You know. You know what was Mike

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike because he wrote that. He wrote that, you know,

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>he wrote all my he wrote my part. And uh

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>at Chris Farley, I knew Chris. How is any Farley stories?

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the greatest Farley story over here in

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>your life. John Lovett's had a Super Bowl party and

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>he lived in Brentwood and we all a bunch of guys.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Everybody went and uh, Chris came in late, just before

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the kickoff. He came bursting in the door. You know,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 1>he made those entrances where he's out of gas. Where's

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>going on? You know, he came flying in and he

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>was coming from rehab in Venice, like his fifteenth trip. Yeah,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and we had they had a big spread. It was

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>like a Mexican motif, you know, with the food and

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody had eaten and had or had a plate and

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody was going into the screening room for the kickoff.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>So Farley runs over to the table and he's piling

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>up food, you know, and his plate. He's in a

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>hurry and it says, leave a little something for the

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>rest of us, Chris. That we all went in and

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>shut the door. But Chris was out there kick off.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>It's the first series. We're watching whatever, guy, I can't

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>remember what game. And the door opens and Chris comes

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>walking in and he had taken a loaf of Italian

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>bread and he had cut it lengthwise and then he

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>put every condiment that was on the table on the sandwich,

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Pepperccini onions to make everything. And in between

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>he had sandwiched John Love It's beloved kitty cat, live

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>cat in the sandwich and he was holding it. And

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he walked in and said, oh, any fucking thing I

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>want to on Super Bowl Sunday, love it scream, you

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>know the cat. The cat was like this, you know,

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>in the sandwich. Is everyone dying? Oh my god? Can

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you imagine? Oh my god, I can't imagine. But he

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>he was the sweetest guy. He was, you know, he

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>he was you know a lot of people don't know

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that his father was five hundred pounds. I'm not making

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>five hundred pounds up. Yeah, he was five hundred pounds

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.959
<v Speaker 1>and a very successful businessman. But Chris had that fat

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Jean couldn't be thin. Yeah, that's tough, Yeah it is.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a picture. I must have left my phone

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in the car. That's okay. We had him recreate it

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the sandwich with the cat without the condiments, but he did,

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and I've got the photo. You know, with the cat.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 1>You have to get it. Yeah, now we'll be right

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>back after this quick break. We gotta jump, we gotta

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>we should probably jump into the segment where we get

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>into nineteen seventy five. But oh fuck nineteen Well, we

0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>liked always we always do it back, I'm kidding you. Yeah,

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>with where the game took place.

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to around January twelfth, nineteen seventy five,

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 2>number one movie, Towering Inferno. I believe they made a remake.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't like remakes.

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I've heard no, and I don't like that one either.

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean that it was those movies, you.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Know, Eve McQueen, Paul Newman, Fredis Stare Fey down Away when.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>It was Newman and Steve McQueen, right, they hated each

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>other when they shot that. McQueen used to count lines.

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>He's got more lines than me. Newman didn't give a shit. Yeah, well,

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>they'd say, well, okay, well give them two more. They'd write,

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, so okay, let's go.

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Geez divas. I mean, I guess you had some diva.

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh yeah, they're they're there. If Tom didn't

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>throw me the ball at least five times in the

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>first quarter, I was pitted.

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Number onood song Mandy by Mary Manilo. That was a

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.959
<v Speaker 2>fun That was a fun song. It still has still

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 2>holds its own.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, he was, He was good around this time.

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Wheel of Fortune debuts The Jefferson. Jefferson's premiers are you

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Will a Fortune Guy or Jeopardy Guy?

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Neither, but the Jeffersons was written co written by Michael Moyer,

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 1>who had married with children. He wrote I Forgot What

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>He wrote a couple of the parts on that. He

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>also wrote for Laverna Shirley.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Geez and I heard Modern Family, the Modern Family people.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Did Frazer Fraser, Golden Girls, Just Shoot Me.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 3>A number of others Reboot Too, which I thought was

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 3>really good but just didn't catch on the reboot oh

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>a Fraser, No, the reboot the show reboot on whom.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I thought that was good to Yeah, I just

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>had that kid from the Partner Pool and yeah, kid's funny.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 3>And Johnny Knoxville was in it and he was actually

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 3>really good.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, that Ike was shocked when they canceled that.

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Paul Allen and Bill Gates founded Microsoft out in Mountain View.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Kel it was in Mountain View, California.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Look, think it was yeah, up by Seattle, wasn't.

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 2>No, It's I'm from this here.

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm from Chilicon Valley Valley. Right.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>They all went out to Stanford. Yah, I think that's

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 2>where their headquarters is.

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it on the lake. You had that house,

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>some beautiful This is saying Albuquerque, New Mexico.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Albuquerque. We were completely off. We were completely off.

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Godfather to Godfather to Young Frankensign Jaws Jaws.

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. That movie is scared.

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>It scared everyone.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it like, yeah, all great movies.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>All those that's what movies were movies.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Godfather too was great with the narrow Brando, right, Yeah,

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the third one lost me a little bit in the Godfather.

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you like it. The third one wasn't as good. No,

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I liked, it's just what didn't. Yeah, two was awesome.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You got de Niro, you got to see the had

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.839
<v Speaker 1>some good performances in there. Yeah, but it wasn't It

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as good. It wasn't as good.

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 2>What about in the sports world seventy five, seventy four

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champions where the Pittsburgh Steelers NFL MVP was

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Stabler, the Snake, the snake.

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I met Kenny. Kenny did married with children. He was

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a really cool guy. Oh, I bet he came on

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the state we had. That's when I met Lawrence Taylor,

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Stabler. Who's Bob Smith? Bubba Smith? What is it?

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Who the name? No?

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the name Bubbat Smith.

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>No, Bubba Smith. Bubba Smith. Remember Bubba? I don't Bubba Smith?

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>The defensive end for the Colts six seven, three point fifteen. Yeah,

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I got him right here play for Michigan State. Okay,

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>what year? Uh, I don't know, I forget around my time.

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Michigan State sixty four to sixty six. Was drafted

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 3>first overall one one oh man. He was eighteen sixty

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 3>seven draft to the Rims.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 1>He did the show he did Married with Children. He

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>played the U spare attire Dixon. He's the one that

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>stole my trophy out of the trophy case. And we

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>had the one on one. Oh, I had to make no,

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I had to change it to slow motion. I did this.

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>We had a thing where we come up against each other.

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It was a goal line stand. It was a It

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>had been a contested call in the championship game where

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I crossed the line. They called it a touchdown and

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he swore I never got over. So now all these

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>years later, we're going to do it again. And the

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>imaginary goal line, just the two of us. Oh, it

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was so funny. You got to google that. You gotta

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>watch that show. It's one of the great ones. He

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:39.919
<v Speaker 1>and he couldn't. He hadn't done anything, I don't think.

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>And when we rehearsed it, he couldn't pull back. It

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was like it was like getting in with an actual

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>grizzly bear, that's how strong he was. And finally I

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>went to the guys and I said, Hey, this ain't

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna work. I said, you know, I got to work

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>next week. Going well, let's just go slow motion. He

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and we'll film it like its slow motion, but it's

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be slow motion. It turned out hilarious. Then he's

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a sweet guy too. I bet he is.

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 3>The nineteen sixty six City Championship Polkai Panthers versus the

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Johnson High School against Bubba Sparetire Dixon.

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Four touchdowns in one game, nineteen sixty six. Baby, we

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>should have done that game. Who's the coolest cameo you

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 2>guys ever had? You've ever had in any of your shows,

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>any of anything?

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>The coolest cameo on any show I ever did? Yeah,

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible. We had so many

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>over on Modern Family. We had so many alone. I

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>mean I just couldn't say. I really couldn't say. Have

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you ever met Bill Walton, Joe, I never met Bill

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 1>rip I love that I watched that wonderful, luckiest guy

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>in the world, Doc. Yeah, I used to. So I

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like to pack ten.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the Bay Area, so you know,

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd be in Boston and when I was playing, and

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it'd be eleven o'clock a night or something, and the

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve team would be playing, and Bill Wallat would

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 2>be man going on a'd be talking about like a

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>forest in northern California had nothing to do with basketball.

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I used to when I was I don't even

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>know when this wasn't. I don't even know if this

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>actually occurred or my brain just made this happen. I

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>remember seeing a photo on the cover of Sports Illustrated

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of Walton going up. It was either the block a shot,

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or it was a rebound. I'm not sure what it was,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but he was he was up and his hand was

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>this far above the top of the backboard. Yeah, I

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 1>mean he was seven foot yeah. And then and then

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>he could still jump. Oh my god, I said, this

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 1>is you know, he would if he didn't have those

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>back problems and feet. Yeah, but when you get those

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>big guys on that shoes back, then we're in converts, right,

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no support with might as well played barefoot. Yeah,

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:10.959
<v Speaker 1>and that that that hardwood is hard. He was such

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a great player. He was amamable. He could do everything.

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of like Joker.

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 3>So Jack is texting me, He's saying, your memory is correct.

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>That was March twenty fifth, nineteen seventy four issue.

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>You're kidding me, Yeah, your issue? Oh my god, can

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you bring it up? I mean bring it up. I

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:35.399
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it since then. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I'd

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>like to see it.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 3>And well, Lea brings us up the Rams linebacker.

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Hacks Reynolds and the Snake. He played with the Niners too,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't you? And Jack because we used to Jack young Blood. Yeah,

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>played with a broken back in the Super Bowl, played

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>with a broken bone. All right, where is it? There

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>it is? Oh? There it is? Is that it? Well

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not above okay, all right, it was that one.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Well I exact Bill Walton, alright, p but you see, yes,

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's talk about playing above the rim. Oh man.

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 2>When the A's were good, they won their third straight

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 2>World Series Oakland A's.

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember whether they had the mustaches. Yeah, they looked

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 1>like the old nineteen twenty players. That was so cool.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Who was the picture that was the eighties? Something of

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the eighty guy with the mustache? Oh god, from the

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Bay is it Dennis? Yeah, Boston guy

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to Boston.

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Remember we met him at a Strega one night with

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Nicki Verano. Tony Tony Lesura or Tony Tony Tommy Tommy Lesura.

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tommylesorta, who was mentioned in the pilot or the

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 3>first episode of clipped of Clips.

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually wanted to go to the goddamn game. You

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>want to have dinner with Tommy? All right?

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Can we set the stage for this Super Bowl nine

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 2>starting with the Minnesota Vikings Gui, Yes, I can in

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 2>tar This was like.

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>The Buffalo Bills before the Buffalo Bills. Yep. He was

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of a mini not a mini, but he was

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of Stoba. Sure, quarterback scrambled. I remember Foreman to Chuck Foreman.

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>It was a wonderful running.

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Back to this nineteen seventy four Vikings team Pro Bowlers

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, John Gilliam, Ron Yarry, Carl Eller,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Alan Page, Paul Krauss.

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Alan Page was from Canton, Canton, Ohio. He had page one.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 1>In page two, his brother was page two. Oh wow,

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he smart enough to go to college? He worked

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at Canton Timkin Roller Bearing after he graduated. Isn't Warren

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>right really cool? Yeah? Warren is. Yeah.

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>We used I used to go to act one of

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 2>my teammates house and Warren. We used to this place

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 2>called the hot Dog Shop or something. I didn't I

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't hang around Warren. Yeah, probably I was pretty much

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 2>in young Kngstown. Yeah, the middle spot.

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Where you could die at any given moment in Youngstown.

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And he never realized. I never thought it was dangerous,

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Eddie di Botless.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 2>From there, it's the midpoint from chicag I go to

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 2>New York for a reason.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 3>So this team was coached by Bud Grant. They went

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 3>ten and four. They were coming off of twelve and

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 3>two season and a Super Bowl appearance where they losted

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Super eight to.

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>The Miami Leaders.

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 3>This was their third Super Bowl appearance in as many

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 3>years and lost. They lost two of them. They also,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 3>notably have never won one. This was the team of

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 3>the Purple People Eaters, the defensive line, Alan Page Call,

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Gary Larson, Doug Sutherland, the Purple

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 3>People Eaters. They referred to themselves as the Purple Gang.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 3>But because of the song by Sheev Woodley one a

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 3>one off, one hit.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>One hit Wonder, and their motto was meet at the quarterback.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Thoughts on the city of Minneapolis or the people of

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota ed this, I mean, this is this is prime

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota football, if you think about it. They hadn't had

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 2>this kind of success since then. And then they really

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>do have a crazy fan fan base like those people

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 2>love Minnesota football, and it's because of this generation of football.

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, do you what do you remember the Minnesota

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:07.919
<v Speaker 2>Vikings this time?

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I love the Vikings, you know, I mean they

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>were they. I like the uniforms. I liked the players.

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 1>They were rough, you know, rough bunch rough, very rough Vikings,

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, I used to follow the Vikings. I

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>liked Tarkenton. He was crafty. He was very crafty, slippery. Yeah.

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>My dad used to say I looked like him when

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I was. I used to play quarterback.

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, were you You were a right hander. I

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:32.720
<v Speaker 1>was a right hander.

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I was a smaller guy that would run

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 2>around and make these crazy plays. And my dad get

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>yell little Tarkenton in Yeah, yeah, yellow tark He.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Was a bit of a modern quarterback too in this era.

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Early he would have lit it up. Now.

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he probably would have played eight more years. Can't

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>hit him.

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, here's the Steelers.

0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 3>It just picked up these Steelers nineteen seventy four Steelers

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Pro Bowlers, Ray Gariela, my pounce is bad me and

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Joe Green, Elsie Greenwood, Jack Ham, Frank o'harris, Andy Russell,

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of Hall of famers on his team, fourteen

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Hall of famers.

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>After them, right, Yeah, he was back up Joe Gilliam.

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a kid who could have been a great, great,

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:16.759
<v Speaker 1>great player. What happened? Drugs, alcohol, and and I think

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get He beat up Bradshaw. Yeah, he beat

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>up Bradshaw. Bradshaw second year, Gilliam was starting.

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 3>So this season was riddled with quarterback controversy. Three starting quarterbacks.

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Joe Gilliam threw Week six, they were four to one

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 3>and one, then Terry Bradshaw, then Terry you pronounced him

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:38.920
<v Speaker 3>hand ready, Kerry Henriddy, and then back to Teddy Bradshaw,

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>who then started this game. Yes, kind of had to clutch.

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Knowle was just trying to teach him a lesson, like,

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, get with it. You're he wasn't happy up there.

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>You know he was a Southern kid. Yeah, I just

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>thought it. Well, Ham was great. Lambert Ham came right

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.919
<v Speaker 1>after I did. Was there Jack Lambert Kent State and

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Lambert Lambert can stay in state. So this year a

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a psych go right, a little bit.

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, The big takeaway on this team is They had

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 3>an incredible draft and incredible rookie class, so Lynn Swan,

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Jack Lambert, John Star with Mike Webster and then they

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>signed Donnie Schell.

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>All five are in the Hall.

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.959
<v Speaker 3>Of Fame now came into that team this year kicked

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:17.720
<v Speaker 3>off the Steelers.

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Dynas No. Blunt was great, Mel Blunt, Hall.

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Of famers on this team are just incredible, Mel Blunt,

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Terry Bradshaw, Joe Green, Jack Caam Franco, Harris, Jack Lambert,

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.919
<v Speaker 3>Chuck Noll, Bull nun Art, Rudy Dan, Rudy, Donnischell, John

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 3>star Worth, Lind Swan, and Mike Webster.

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were loaded. Mike Webster was a monster. Ernie

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Holmes had a problem.

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 2>With the now ed when you got there in sixty nine, right,

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight, sixty nine, sixty nine, Chuck Nole's first year.

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Could you feel something special was bruin to where they

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>got five years later?

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 1>No, because I was just like in shock that I

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was even there. Yeah, walking around. I remember my dad

0:55:56.680 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 1>dropped me off and it was, you know, same since

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.879
<v Speaker 1>college and I got there and the Vets weren't really

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>there yet. There were some that were there for special reasons,

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, they had injuries working on things, and so

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I was there with all the rookies. But uh, you know,

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>we were getting the rooms and everything, and my father

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was and my father was a tough guy, and he

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 1>was very quiet. He was always quiet, but he was

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>very quiet that day. And so he said, well, you

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>better get going dad, you know. He said, yeah, let's go.

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And I walked him out to the car and he

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>opened the door and he looked around and he said,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>are you sure you want to do this? And I wasn't.

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought maybe not. I said, oh yeah,

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, you said, because if you don't, we'll grab

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 1>your bag getting let's get that all out of here.

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, no, go go. Yeah, you know, but

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>he was worried just watching these guys walking around. You know.

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what dads do. Yeah, they worry.

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, when we had Terry on he he talked a

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 3>little bit about how Chuck Noll was really early in

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 3>trying to get plays or some different pockets of the

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 3>country to try to get the best athletes to really

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of create a little bit more of a integrated locker.

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Rooms round too.

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at that time I think even said Chuck, no

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 3>guns like Patot's license, we could fly to these like

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 3>small colleges all.

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Across the country. He was a sophisticated guy. And uh,

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean look at the look at that, Look at

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that those guys. There were so many great players on

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 1>those how mean was mean? Jeal Green? Mean as hell?

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.959
<v Speaker 1>You know that's the other thing they go, Oh, that's

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>just a nickname. It's it's because he's not mean. Oh no,

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a gun. He was great off the field.

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>He was a sweet guy in a real life. On

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the field, he was brutal. I mean, you know he

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>used to punch guys.

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah did you know that? Oh yeah, I seen the highlights.

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>No, he'd hit guys in the stomach with a fist.

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>He had a great uppercut to the solar plexus. Boom.

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>He nailed these guys. They drop like a sack. I mean,

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 1>he was brutal. He didn't lift weights, you know, he

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>was what we used to call cock strong. Yeah, just

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a normal naturally that was a term. Yeah. Uh. Never

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 1>never touched the weight, but fast. He was a great player.

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 2>One of the all time.

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Anybody this guy could.

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 3>In this game foreshadowing. He had a fumble recovery and

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 3>an interception.

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a tremendous player. He was me, Me

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and Joe. The best commercial ever made, right, that coke

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>commercial we just ever made.

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 3>We just found out because one of Jules's old coaches,

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Dante Scarnacio, was acted in a like made for TV

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 3>movie based off of that commercial.

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, yeah, yeah remember that.

0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Dante's Scarnakio. Now Terry did uh all.

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Kinds of cameos, right, Harry did a married with children,

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and he did a Modern Family. You know, I'll tell

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you a funny thing. We had lunch when he was

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>doing the Modern Family. Now we knew each other, and uh,

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>we were having lunch and it was a it was

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a courtroom scene where he had courtroom duty and I didn't.

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get out until I saw it

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>was him. It was my idol, you know, Terry Bradshaw.

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 1>So we're having lunch and he's looking at me. He says,

0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>when did you play? And I told him when I

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:22.919
<v Speaker 1>was trying out, you know, and he said yeah, oh yeah,

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he said, well I played twelve years. He said, yeah,

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you look you're younger. You're older than me, ain't you.

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, I'm a year older than you. You

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>look better than I do. I said, I didn't play

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>twelve years in the NFL when they didn't protect quarterbacks.

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 1>He had some bad injuries. He said, Man, you're right,

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>he said should I said, how many concussions you have?

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>He said, shit, I couldn't count. I couldn't count them all.

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I said, well that's why you and he had detached bicep.

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get a bad back to everything.

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't listen. A series of injuries and

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he's but he's he's happy, he's got a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry helped build Fox Sports started with the Yeah he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the pregame him Howie a lot like Walton,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that just that free spirit kind of

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<v Speaker 1>say whatever. Terry's the best man. He's authentically him, he

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<v Speaker 1>really is. So I sang in the grand Old Opry,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh I heard that. He said, I wan't

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<v Speaker 1>any good? But what I sang? And that?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he tell you that they rolled all his fans

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<v Speaker 2>there or something? He always yeah, he tells me, I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know. I know he's a piece of word.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's so funny. He lives in Oklahoma. Now you know,

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got horses. Yeah, he big horse guy. He said

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.360
<v Speaker 1>he finally found the right woman. You know, he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>on his third or fourth. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now who's on your Steelers Mount Rushmore though?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, any one of any number of these guys got

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<v Speaker 1>four h Green Joe Green Well Otey, who's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite, but he's not on here. He must have

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<v Speaker 1>come later. Is that that Samoan kid? You know that?

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<v Speaker 1>That kid? My god, he was one of my favorite players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just the way he played defense, That kid

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<v Speaker 1>was right. I mean, did you play against him, did

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that he was that good? Or was he

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<v Speaker 1>fading by then or no? He was, he was still

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<v Speaker 1>that good.

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<v Speaker 2>What made him so good was he didn't necessarily hold

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibility he was supposed to hold. So, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a pre snap read on something and safety

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<v Speaker 2>comes here, and then you do a post snap and

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<v Speaker 2>he's supposed to be going this way, Troy would be

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<v Speaker 2>in a completely different area kicking a ball where you're

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<v Speaker 2>not accounting for that guy to go there because he's

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be there right right, So he had

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<v Speaker 2>an instinct that was second to none. Come right over

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<v Speaker 2>the line, some right over and he would do that uncalled,

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<v Speaker 2>like that wasn't the call play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't teach that stuff. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of guys try to do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>they when you do that, you leave yourself your team.

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<v Speaker 1>Vulnerable getting dashed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, you know what I mean A lot yeah those

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<v Speaker 2>but he never really I mean, he'd have his times,

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<v Speaker 2>but he made a lot more plays.

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<v Speaker 3>He got away with it a lot away with it

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more. My favorite thing about Troy is that

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<v Speaker 3>while he played during the two thousands with the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>he had the embodiment of this seventy Steelers defense, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he could have played on those teams and fit right in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He was also a very gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>When you compete against him, he'd say a prayer before

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<v Speaker 2>every play.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd like, you, all, those Hawaiians are very religious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those missionaries did a job on those. But look, Lambert,

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<v Speaker 1>very smart player. He was only about two ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was small, and he was six four or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three years tall, and he had them very big shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>pads on right. He looked like fierce and no teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was basically just a real smart player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he'd just bring you down. Not a Budkuss

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<v Speaker 1>Budcus would kill you. Yeah, and uh we.

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<v Speaker 2>Got me and Joe Troy in Lambert.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't I wouldn't put Lambert in the Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Andy Russell. I loved Andy Russell.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Russell was one of the smartest linebackers I ever

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<v Speaker 1>saw play the game. A lot like Joe Schmidt. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Schmid for the Lions. You don't remember Schmid. Smidt was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the all time great middle linebackers. And not

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<v Speaker 1>that big, but Russell when he played the weak side.

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<v Speaker 1>He played on the weak side, you know, opposite the

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<v Speaker 1>tight end, and he would he'd stand straight up in

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<v Speaker 1>the air before the snap. He'd be looking around. He'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why out watch him. He's coming over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And he'd be talking and he would be like, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a football you think he's not ready to play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he looked like a ref and that ball be

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<v Speaker 1>snap man and he was on it. You know. He

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<v Speaker 1>was great for me. Again, not that big. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a full back at Missouri. Yeah he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like you he was basically a running back and uh

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He was a great player. Played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of years. Didn't he He was the captain, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>He look Andy Russell.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a quote from Andy Russell which is he

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<v Speaker 3>would tell Yeah, he would tell Terry Bratch on the offense,

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<v Speaker 3>just hold him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the points else. Greenwood, Now he was a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie when I was a rookie Greenwood, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have bet my life that they would have cut him

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<v Speaker 1>because he played like he was on roller skates. He

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<v Speaker 1>was six seven and he was long and thin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh my god, he looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player. You know, I didn't think. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're wrong so much. I mean, they they

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<v Speaker 1>worked with him. He had a he had potential.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get those long arms, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he finally became a well, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he became a great player.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you get long arms, you get leverage, strength, and

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<v Speaker 2>you keep the guy away from you. Yeah, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can two get like the Stork.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, remember the stork from the Raiders, the outside linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>the mad Stork. What was his name? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>his name, but I remember yet, Oh my god, just

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<v Speaker 1>go mad Stork. He's the probably Hendrix. Hendrix, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say now with no problem one of the greatest linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever. They could never run on him. They could never.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was another guy too that played for the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers, number sixty four, and I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>his name. He played for years outside linebacker two forty

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three, six y four brutal, Yeah and great. What

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<v Speaker 1>was his same number? Sixty four, San Francis.

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<v Speaker 3>Wayne Wilcox, Yes, Willcox, Wilcox Man, Dave Wilcox, Dave Wilcox.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy could play draft in nineteen sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty four probably played to seventy five seventy four stand

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<v Speaker 1>two teams first with his hands on his hips and

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<v Speaker 1>his legs crossed standing. You know that. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>when you're tired. Yeah, he just stand like this. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a tired look.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me wrap up the Steelers team. So they

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<v Speaker 3>went ten to three and one. Was the first tie

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<v Speaker 3>ever or overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>To ten record. Yeah, yeah, that was the record.

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<v Speaker 3>And also notably, just got to say it, this was

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<v Speaker 3>the steel Curtain defense. Notably me and Joe green Elsie

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<v Speaker 3>Greenwood the Torch Game. Dwight White and Dwight White in

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<v Speaker 3>this game got food poisoning, lost twenty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It was going to be whether he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>play or not. He ended up playing in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Remind me to tell you a funny story about frank

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<v Speaker 1>O Harris and me. When Sophia Viagara got married, the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding was at the It's Florida. Yeah, what's that hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful down in West Palm Beach. It's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know West Palm Beach here. I don't either, So I

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<v Speaker 1>was there when most of the cast went down, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh so anyway, I'm at the reception and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm standing with some of the cast and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>comes up to me and he says, uh, mister o Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to bother you, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>work for a man who's your biggest fan. And I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>tell him. I said hi. He said, well, he's he's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, if he's here, bring him over. Where

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<v Speaker 1>is it. He said, he's over there by the fountain.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked and I said that's frank O Harris. He

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<v Speaker 1>said yes. I looked, and I went so literally like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, came over. I said, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Almost I'm so happy. I can't I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I said, wait a minute, you came the

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<v Speaker 1>year after me, when you were when you were at

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State. Yeah, I said, you know, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie with the Steelers. He said, I know all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you do you know I got cut He

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<v Speaker 1>said yeah. I said, and uh, you won four Super Bowls? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maculate reception. Yes, and I'm your idol. What's wrong with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's a great segue because in this game, Franco

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<v Speaker 3>Harris was the Super Bowl MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl Rush.

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<v Speaker 3>This game thirty four attempts, eight yards, one touchdown, also

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<v Speaker 3>two fumbles one lost, but everyone was fumbling this game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's freezing. This is the coldest game on record at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, so it's to be in the super Dome.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't finish it and go to Tulane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The lead up of this game is the Steelers beat

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo and Oakland to get to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings beat Saint.

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<v Speaker 3>Louis aided by three turners in a missfield goal, then

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<v Speaker 3>they beat Los Angeles on a goal line stand to

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<v Speaker 3>win at the end of the game. This was billed

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<v Speaker 3>as like two great defenses, Steel Curtain versus the Purple People, eatersly, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the defensive line in the fens fencing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the Vikings wanted to do what the Steelers did.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Vikings were just coming off they were searching

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<v Speaker 3>for their first super Bowl title. They had just lost

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl four, and they had just lost the previous

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<v Speaker 3>year super Bowl eight against the Dolphins. And you mentioned, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the second coldest super Bowl ever with forty

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<v Speaker 3>six degrees. And the reason that is is because it

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be at the super Dome, but it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't finished yet, so they moved the game to nearby

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<v Speaker 3>Tulane where there was all kinds of weather and rain,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they moved it on the slick turf, and

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<v Speaker 3>so this game was very sloppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Franco was a great running back. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a load. Oh he was huge, he was big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, when he turned up, you know, train.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta get him, You gotta get him running side.

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<v Speaker 1>They started, Oh yeah, yeah, you got to get him legs. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like this guy can he can? He can

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<v Speaker 1>bring it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember where you were when you watched this game?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, I mean I watched it for sure. What

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably in some bar Youngstown, Youngstown. You're fresh

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<v Speaker 1>out here, you're about five years out you you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>yeah Hollywood yet. I was like twenty eight. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Youngstown. Yeah. I didn't go to New York till

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. I was thirty one, thirty one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the odds of me making it when I got to

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<v Speaker 1>New York were astronomical. Yeah, I still can't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>What were they? You couldn't even make odds that high?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you got It's like winning lotto, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So this was this was a sloppy game, sloppy weather specialties.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like an ego. You could do it. We're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna, We're gonna write a movie for you to

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<v Speaker 1>be Chuck Jeels, who played Terry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be Terry Bradshaw Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can't play, I'll get Terry. You played Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>blond To You know Chuck was a I was a

1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:53.880
<v Speaker 1>messenger guard for the Browns. Yeah, did you know that?

1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I didn't played for Paul Brown. He was an underside guard.

1:10:57.800 --> 1:10:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He was probably maybe he was two twenty, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not, but he used to run the plays in

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<v Speaker 1>and out for Paul Brown Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a defensive battle. Now do you when

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<v Speaker 2>you watch these games back in those days where you

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<v Speaker 2>entertained to see defenses do well like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the defensive games, which they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see anymore. They don't want to see that. And to

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<v Speaker 1>me it was well because I was a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the defense. I love the defensive guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And it gets a bad rap because we will get

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<v Speaker 2>into scoring the game and a lot of people associate

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<v Speaker 2>a bad game with a good defensive game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bad game. To that bad game, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad game. But it's like it's like the UFC. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dana White, he wants nothing but knockouts. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you don't get the bonus. Yea, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you tap the guy out from the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana White's mad. He sometimes he'll walk out of a

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<v Speaker 1>fight and the guy on the ground, you know, ready

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<v Speaker 1>to I mean, it's just how it's gone because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what puts asses in seats, and it's blood

1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and guys getting knocked out, Yeah, kicked to the face

1:12:10.000 --> 1:12:15.400
<v Speaker 1>what I call stupid fighting. Yeah, it's become stupid fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm you know, you know, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Gracis for thirty years. You know, the jiu jitsu.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a black belt from the old man. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you take a fight, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times you'll see two wrestlers who really can't box, but

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<v Speaker 1>they like to box because they just learned it. So

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<v Speaker 1>they get in there against each other and they think, oh,

1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm a little better than this one at boxing,

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<v Speaker 1>and they box. Well, who wants to see that fight?

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<v Speaker 1>Two guys that really don't know how But they won't

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<v Speaker 1>put those guys on the ground and start from there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're on the ground too long, they stand

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<v Speaker 1>you up. Yeah, so when they stand a ground fighter up,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at the disadvantage right away. And that's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Well, I mean, you've got to pick your battles

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<v Speaker 2>and you got to use your strengths and try to yea.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's an awesome sport to watch right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can be a shitty boxer but still go

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<v Speaker 2>out and get down.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. The thing, now, are those calf kicks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're breaking legs.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get into mixed martial arts? How did

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<v Speaker 3>you get into doing the mixed martial arts?

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<v Speaker 1>I got in there with well, it's not martial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>I got in with the jiu jitsu with from John Millius.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember a guy named John Millius? Nobody he wrote?

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote Apocalypse Now, okay, he wrote Big Wednesday, which

1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is a classic surfing film. Yeah, you'll see. Anyway he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was taking jiu jitsu in Torrents with the Gracie family.

1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:47.800
<v Speaker 1>They're Brazilians and I knew him from the lot and

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<v Speaker 1>he and we used to get the fights and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>all go and watch the fights and stuff, pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view stuff. He was telling me about these Gracy guys

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<v Speaker 1>and the main the head Gracie was a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Hickson Hicks. On Gracie, you wouldn't want to fight, it'sen Gracie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think his record was somebody like four hundred

1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and oh buddy, and that's exaggeration. But anyway, he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get me to go down there and take

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<v Speaker 1>this jiu jitsu and I said that the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>wear the pajamas and yeah. He said, yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole other thing. And I said that, John,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so two years of this. He's badgering me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one day I went down. I said, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>meet you there. He said, no, I want to drive

1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:30.479
<v Speaker 1>you down. I said no, no, I'll meet you there

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to, you know, exit. So I go

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<v Speaker 1>in and he's in there with Horry and Gracie, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the oldest brother, and they were rolling around, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a mat. I'm looking in the window and I'm

1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.559
<v Speaker 1>bringing what are they doing? You know? So afterwards they

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<v Speaker 1>come out and I meet Horry and Gracie. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest brother. He runs the show, and all, nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. It's good to see you. I love love things.

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<v Speaker 1>John says, good things. And I said, well, the place

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<v Speaker 1>is very clean, clean you could eat off the floor literally,

1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And he said, okay, now you get to have a

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<v Speaker 1>free lesson with me. I want to show you. I

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<v Speaker 1>said no, no, no, no, no, I said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get back and I'm in Torrance right. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the rush hour. I don't have to get a

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<v Speaker 1>motel out here. You know. He come on, please your

1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:20.240
<v Speaker 1>air you only hear one time to fifteen minutes, so

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<v Speaker 1>get it a ghee. So you know, the thing the

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas so I go in, I put it on, I

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<v Speaker 1>come back out. He says, Okay, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be quick. I know you're in a hurry. Lay down

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<v Speaker 1>on your back, please, And we were in the mat.

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<v Speaker 1>I lay down. He said, I'm going to kneel on

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<v Speaker 1>top of you, and then we tell you this is

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<v Speaker 1>the two part tests, very quick. I mean, pretend you

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<v Speaker 1>come out of your bedroom at night and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>a noise and your wife is afraid, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in there right he maybe open the door and

1:15:56.479 --> 1:15:59.000
<v Speaker 1>knocks you down and jump on top of you. Your

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<v Speaker 1>children in the other room. You think you can get

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<v Speaker 1>me off of you if your life depends on it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is Buck seventy. Yeah, I'm at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>like two forty. You know, this is thirty some years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Man, if my life depends on I think

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<v Speaker 1>I could get you off. I don't know after that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew these guys, said you know these reputations.

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<v Speaker 1>But so that's it, that's all you have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm laying like this, you know, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll win. He said, anytime you want. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel his weight on me. He's kneeling, but his the

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<v Speaker 1>weights on his knees, and I said, all right, anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, anytime you want to just go, just get

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<v Speaker 1>me off. So I think I like bucked up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, pushed it. Twenty seconds later, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still on top of me. I can't get him off.

1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted, says, okay, sit up, breathe, breathe, breathe. It's okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now this is the last part. I lay down, you

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<v Speaker 1>sit on top of me. It's okay now. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. He said, can you hold me down? Four seconds?

1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh my god, four seconds? I said, yeah,

1:17:12.520 --> 1:17:15.880
<v Speaker 1>four seconds. What am I look like to you? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, that's all you have to do, John, you

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<v Speaker 1>count one, two, three, four like that. I said, that's

1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:27.080
<v Speaker 1>fast for said's not even four seconds. Okay. When I

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<v Speaker 1>said get it hold of me, so I grab him,

1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, come on like a man, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's cell of their fish. So I hold him. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>squeezing him. He goes you ready, I said, yeah, boom,

1:17:38.320 --> 1:17:40.400
<v Speaker 1>he's on top of me. I'm looking up at him.

1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, how did you do that? He said, this

1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is what we do. I said, I got to lend this.

1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:46.479
<v Speaker 1>He said, no, he come on, that's not the point.

1:17:46.520 --> 1:17:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to show you what we do. We

1:17:49.320 --> 1:17:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have some actors come, they do this and that, they

1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:53.080
<v Speaker 1>go home, they do movies. You know, they don't come back.

1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, when can I come back? Come back to more?

1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You want to? I said, the time. Give me the time, Torrance,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be here. Sixteen years later, I got the black belt.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheez wow, I took it was a lot of humble pie, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>I recently got into combat. I've been boxing a bunch.

1:18:17.360 --> 1:18:19.800
<v Speaker 1>You're boxing. Yeah, I used to box as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in Youngstown. Yeah, I bet it's it's it's it's a

1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole other deal. It's a whole other deal.

1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:29.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's a great way in outlet for you to

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<v Speaker 2>compete with yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you smarring not smar far. Don't spark got too

1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:36.519
<v Speaker 1>many head things. Yeah, no, don't spark at all.

1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:39.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm doing all the movement, the bag work, and

1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>it's been fun. It is hurts my body though, I

1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:46.200
<v Speaker 2>see all my deficiencies and from my injuries, and because

1:18:46.200 --> 1:18:48.439
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of there's a lot of unnecessary there's

1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of crazy torque on the body when you're

1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:52.280
<v Speaker 2>doing these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, boxing is the in my opinion. Now, you know,

1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm opinion about this because I grew up with boxing

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<v Speaker 1>in Youngstown and you know Raymond's. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the great fighters that came out of Youngstown,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's a whole history of that. But

1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:11.240
<v Speaker 1>boxing is the only sport that's gone backwards. I mean

1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gone backwards. In the thirties and forties, the fighters

1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>were the best, and even even further back. And people

1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:21.639
<v Speaker 1>will say, no, no, you're wrong. You know, look how

1:19:21.680 --> 1:19:24.200
<v Speaker 1>big they are, the heavyweights. I said, they can't fight

1:19:24.240 --> 1:19:27.519
<v Speaker 1>for shit. They don't know anything about fighting. They don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And those old time guys, look, you're taking it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you one example. I don't want to go on

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<v Speaker 1>to We're going to talk about boxing. Sugar Ray Robinson

1:19:36.479 --> 1:19:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in his prime. Say he's twenty six years old, in

1:19:39.680 --> 1:19:44.400
<v Speaker 1>his prime, fights Bernard Hopkins, the executioner. He's going in

1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Bernard Bernard. When he was

1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:50.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, his record would have been like twenty nine

1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and one or two with eighteen nineteen knockouts. Robinson's record

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<v Speaker 1>same age would have been ninety one and one with

1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:04.120
<v Speaker 1>seventy four knockouts. Yeah, fighting the best fighters that ever

1:20:04.120 --> 1:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>pore clubs on. Now, who's gonna win that fight? Like

1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>fighting a girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's so that's such a crazy sport though,

1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:16.919
<v Speaker 2>because the politics in it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was always oh you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're never getting like you never see the best

1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:23.719
<v Speaker 2>fighters fight the best fighters in prime.

1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>But in those days you saw it a lot more often. Yeah,

1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:29.840
<v Speaker 1>because they almost had to fight each other. And those

1:20:29.880 --> 1:20:34.040
<v Speaker 1>guys way back they were better trainers, there were I mean,

1:20:34.080 --> 1:20:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just a whole other deal. Everybody was fighting. Yeah,

1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:40.879
<v Speaker 1>and today nobody's fighting. Ad they fight once a year, yeah,

1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:43.840
<v Speaker 1>because they're making the money, but any money. Yeah, there's

1:20:43.880 --> 1:20:46.439
<v Speaker 1>no no comparison between the old guys. All you have

1:20:46.520 --> 1:20:49.799
<v Speaker 1>to do is google some of those fights and watch them.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, well, this year, before I wrap up this game,

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<v Speaker 3>this year was the year of the thriller in Manila

1:20:54.320 --> 1:20:56.200
<v Speaker 3>was in nineteen seventy four, nine seventy five round this

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<v Speaker 3>game Fraser Ali three. But to wrap up this game,

1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:03.320
<v Speaker 3>or to kind of like put a point to it, scoreless.

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<v Speaker 3>First quarter, Pittsburgh mister field goal.

1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>There was a botch snap on another field goal.

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<v Speaker 3>At halftime yep, there was a that was the first

1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:13.120
<v Speaker 3>safety in Super Bowl history, interception on like the inside

1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:16.479
<v Speaker 3>the five, and then back and forth, so two oh

1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and halftime. The third quarter, Pittsburgh extended their lead with

1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:22.640
<v Speaker 3>a touchdown from Franco Harris. Minnesota fumbled the halftime the

1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:27.479
<v Speaker 3>kickoff at halftime, which was actually a Steelers He slipped

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<v Speaker 3>the kicker on the kickoff at the halftime and then

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<v Speaker 3>kind of squibbed it and then bounced off the Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>guy and then the Steelers recovery. That's kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>representative of this game. And then fourth quarter there was

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<v Speaker 3>a block punt uh and then returned for a touchdown

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<v Speaker 3>or recovered in the end zone for a touchdown, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings right, yes, the Vikings got it was a drive.

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<v Speaker 1>The last minute.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a six minute drive eleven play ending with

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<v Speaker 3>a Larry Brown touchdown that really kind of in many

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<v Speaker 3>ways is a summation of Terry Bradshaw's career. Art's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit sloppy back and forth, you don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>when push comes to SUV, when it's crunch time. Who

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<v Speaker 3>do you want the ball in the hand A little

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<v Speaker 3>bit the original? Yeah, and then so the Steelers won

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<v Speaker 3>the game sixteen to six. One thing I need to

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<v Speaker 3>mention is that this steel Curtain team defense during this

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<v Speaker 3>game allowed less than one yard per carry and allowed

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<v Speaker 3>no offensive scores.

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<v Speaker 1>Less than one yard per carry. That's a joke. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. And with fran running around back there right.

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<v Speaker 2>With what he only had one hundred two yards passes? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>three three interceptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Interceptions by mel Blunt, me and Joe Green and then

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<v Speaker 3>that other cornerback who got called late man.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the aftermath of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Franco Harris was MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome little story you had there. First super Bowl? Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers first super Bowl. This is the kickoff. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>They would go on to win next year nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five Super Bowl back to back, and then in seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight and seventy nine. Yeah, Chuck Noll became the youngest

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<v Speaker 3>head coach to win a Super Bowl at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>That was what was uh wow, FAA was thirty four, yeah, thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Six, So Nole was only forty two then, So when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a rookie. He was like thirty six or seven. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Mcvade was thirty six when he won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Became the youngest ever thirty six. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so this would be the third Viking Super

1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Bowl loss. They would then lose again in Super Bowl eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>So they went to four out of the first eleven

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowls and didn't win a single one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully Kevin O'Connell get him going.

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<v Speaker 1>J McCarthy. That it's Jenny McCarthy, right, yeah, yeah, see

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<v Speaker 1>nol see that. See how he looked, and he looked

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like a twenty nose. Yeah, twenty nos

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a movie they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the That was the Ryan Reynolds one.

1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I just met her like at the last SAG Awards,

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I never met her.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to like her movie Fright Green Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Kathy Beats. She's good. She's good.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a couple of scary movies too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a Kid, Oh my god, the one where she

1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was chopping up. Yeah, conn, I was like a little

1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>kid when that came out. I was like terrified of her.

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<v Speaker 2>It's failure to launch, Yeah, failure to lunch Now What

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<v Speaker 2>are this? What are these Steelers of rank in the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest dynasties in history? They got to be top three.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the first of four, they're the first of six.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>To win these Hall of Famers. It's gotta be. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be up there, right, I mean, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team?

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<v Speaker 3>We're a little biased here and we probably.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's it. That's the record.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not four touchdowns in sixty six, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know six got to be, you guys, it has no

1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these Chiefs are looking damn good. They gotta

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<v Speaker 1>slow him down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, if they went again, they go three p.

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<v Speaker 1>You see where McCaffrey just signed for two for nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>a little extension. Hey, that kid is some athlete, doesn't

1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he he is? I mean, he's not much bigger than you,

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<v Speaker 1>is he? Probably when we were playing, we're very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably about five pounds heavier. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little lighter right now, but he'd run the forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a four to four eight guy fast,

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<v Speaker 2>But my fat I was the quickest five to ten

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<v Speaker 2>five shuttle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that means that's more.

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<v Speaker 2>Change the direction. Well, depends. Everyone's got a strength. There's

1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.640
<v Speaker 2>long speed, there's short speed. Yeah, everyone's got a superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah at that level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah no. But Caffrey, I mean his versatility is insane.

1:25:49.200 --> 1:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, his well, his dad was a great receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>And McCaffrey used to cut out the toes. Yeah, remember

1:25:54.880 --> 1:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>because he liked he liked smaller, cleap. But I found

1:25:57.960 --> 1:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>out he told I hung out with them at a

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<v Speaker 2>training camp. He said he did it because they was

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<v Speaker 2>like the first to cut out your You had to

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<v Speaker 2>x out when you have pressure points.

1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>So he was the first to do that. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know when I used to say when I was when

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing football, I used to say, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing with these giant shoulder pads? What are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing with these goddamn hip hip girdles? Why are we

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<v Speaker 1>wearing this shit? It's slowing us down. You can't run

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<v Speaker 1>us fast, and you know you didn't need it. Now

1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not doing that. I used to wear the smallest pads.

1:26:32.000 --> 1:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I could less surface area. You guess, especially as defensive lineman.

1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You get skinny on a guy, Yeah, go through the crack,

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<v Speaker 1>go through the scene, split the whole, split it so

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<v Speaker 1>a little on the legacy of this game.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned before there's twenty one total Hall of Famers,

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<v Speaker 3>forty from the Steelers which I listed earlier, seven from

1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:53.799
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings, Carl Eller, Bud Grant, Paul Krause, Alan Page,

1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Fran Tarkenton, Mick Tinglehoff, and ron Yerry. After the game,

1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Bud Grant quoted was saying, there were three bad teams

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<v Speaker 3>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>US Pittsburgh and the officials we talked about because it

1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>was a sloppy game. Sloppy yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So due to this game, NFL put in a rule

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<v Speaker 3>where stadiums can't get the Super Bowl on their first year.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because this game was moved from the super Dome, which

1:27:22.040 --> 1:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't finished, to Tulane Stadium, the NFL put in a

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<v Speaker 3>rule that stadiums cannot get the Super Bowl on.

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<v Speaker 1>Their very first year. They have to exist for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>And something I would like to ask is, because this

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<v Speaker 3>is the Purple People Eaters versus the Steel Curtain, a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of all time unit nicknames. What are some of

1:27:40.240 --> 1:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>your favorite unit nicknames in NFL history. I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>few here, but I'd love to hear what you guys think.

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<v Speaker 1>Legion of Boom, Legion of Boom, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>Greatest show on turf.

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<v Speaker 1>Rams with Kurt Warner. Well, they were in The Fearsome

1:27:56.280 --> 1:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Foursome fears Ye. Yeah, that was the Rams. Yeah, that

1:28:00.280 --> 1:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>was back in the Jones. Yep, that was my dad

1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>liked those Rams. Yeah, those Rams were good.

1:28:04.920 --> 1:28:08.439
<v Speaker 3>Monsters of the Midway. That's the Bears yep, New York

1:28:08.560 --> 1:28:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Sack Exchange. Yes, the no Names, the seventy two Dolphins,

1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Defense Dolphins, and.

1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>What was the Redskins? The Hogs? The Hogs.

1:28:17.760 --> 1:28:20.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like Pony Express even though it's college.

1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>That was SMU. Well, my favorite college thing was the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Bandits. Who's that The Chinese Bandits was google it?

1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I forget it was Lsu No Texas A and m oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chinese Bandits were a defensive They were Lsu Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>Most notably from fifty eight to fifty nine they were

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<v Speaker 3>used briefly for the Army cadets.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. The Chinese Bandits, Wow, they don't have They don't

1:28:48.640 --> 1:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>really do that anymore because teams aren't they're not sticking

1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:54.479
<v Speaker 1>around as long, so you're not getting the same guys

1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>playing for like Steele Curtain, they played ten, eight, six,

1:28:58.160 --> 1:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>seven years together.

1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Guys are going after four making going to another team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a free agency world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even in the college thing now with that

1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>portal thing that everyone's a free agent every year. Well,

1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it'll work out. Yeah, it's pro pro sports.

1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's great to see the kids get paid. But they

1:29:15.800 --> 1:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>got to put some It's tough. It's Tod married with us.

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<v Speaker 1>What we had so many people, but Bo Jackson was on.

1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Bo Jackson was not that tall, No, but he was.

1:29:28.000 --> 1:29:31.439
<v Speaker 1>He was built his thighs, he was built, dude. He

1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:34.679
<v Speaker 1>had legs and he was so unbelievably fast.

1:29:35.320 --> 1:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>He was a fast guy in the field, like five pounds.

1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy was incredible. Let's score the game.

1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>We got to score the game, and he left for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one leftover question what it would happen?

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<v Speaker 3>So we hear a lot about there's chief celebrity fans

1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>John Hamm and Eric stone Street and Rob Wriggle and

1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:57.800
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is there a little

1:29:57.800 --> 1:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>bit of a Steelers celebrity fan group in Holly?

1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Would you got a group chat. I think there is.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard there was a bar, okay where they all

1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>go and watch the game. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.

1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I failed to find out where it was. But there

1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>is one. There is one, Okay, do you watch who

1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>do you watch football with? By myself? It's like my dad.

1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I never watched it with anyboney, talk to anyone. No,

1:30:23.479 --> 1:30:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I just watch it. Yeah, my dad's like that. He

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<v Speaker 1>never wanted to go to the game. No. Never. I

1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:31.839
<v Speaker 1>don't go to the games either. They got a park. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot, it's too much. I just watched it

1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>The coverage is so damn good too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's better that you, you know, you miss everything

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's name the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me do this quick stat correction. Earlier on in

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<v Speaker 3>the episode, you said modern Day. The show is Modern Family.

1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, I said Modern Day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>More Day is the high school down the street that

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Liner went to. Well, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the pilot that you were on with Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Brady is called In the Game two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 3>with Jennifer Love Hewittt. She played a single mother who

1:31:04.800 --> 1:31:08.080
<v Speaker 3>was thrust into the spotlight and becomes an ESPN sideline reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's name the game this Uh, these are some names

1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>we came with with that we could potentially call this game.

1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Usually the games we do have a historical name. This

1:31:24.160 --> 1:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>could be the Sloppy Bowl, the first one because it

1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>was the first of the dynasty for the Steelers, the

1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Steel Curtain starter, the Franco Bull still made at two Lane,

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<v Speaker 2>or the Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. What

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to name this game? Or do you

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<v Speaker 2>have something else?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have anything I would say. I would say, uh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>women steal curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look women you say you said, look, lady, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta seven.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a nine.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to get me with the seven. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of

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<v Speaker 2>all time? Let's score it steaks one to ten? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you score this game?

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<v Speaker 1>One to ten? Super Bowl stakes? Super Bowl game? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean the stakes of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a regular season game, low stakes preseason almost

1:32:22.200 --> 1:32:24.479
<v Speaker 3>nothing playoff game has higher stake.

1:32:25.160 --> 1:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl We generally super Bowls generally.

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<v Speaker 3>Are hitting in the high eights the mid nineties, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on all Right, well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first win, so stakes were high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the Dolphin the Vikings just lost a couple,

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<v Speaker 3>so the stakes are higher for them too, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the losers to score. I'd say ten for the

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<v Speaker 1>Steaks star Power. What do you score the star Power fam? Ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Bruce Springsteen was asked to play the halftime show

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<v Speaker 3>to climb it down. Turned it down, turned it down.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the attribute to Duke Ellington by the Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Leaks State Band. Ye, not the same star.

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<v Speaker 1>Gameplay the gameplay? Are you talking that? That's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the music. No, the game, the game, the game, the game,

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<v Speaker 1>like how how the game was? Oh so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a sloppy game, right, sloppy.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your defense guy could be a good game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but a lot of mistakes too, like fumble that

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<v Speaker 3>are dropped and missed.

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<v Speaker 1>This game, I'd say give it. I don't know, eight seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, go seven seven the game of the game. Steel

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<v Speaker 2>Curtain versus Purple People Leaders probably two of the best

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<v Speaker 2>nicknames for defenses of all time. Yeah, so one of ten?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you scoring this, bad boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? I'd give it ten ten, ten because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>two greatest names. It's got it for defense. What's the total?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine two?

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<v Speaker 2>The defense game? It was a defensive game. The average

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<v Speaker 2>comes out to seven six y five along with Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Kyler and my scores.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does this lead on? We've done all these games?

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<v Speaker 1>My god, you guys done a lot. We've got baseball, boxing, soccer. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you got box right.

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<v Speaker 3>In between Super Bowl seventeen Cowboys versus Bills and Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl with the Rams versus Bengals. That feels that feels

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>The Double Donk game, the almost tie game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just behind the can't wait game.

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<v Speaker 3>That game is too high, that's way too high. And

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<v Speaker 3>double Donk. Yeah, this is this feels right. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>a new scoring system because shit got wonkey. This feels

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<v Speaker 3>right good scoring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good score. Yeah good. You should do some

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<v Speaker 1>jiu jitsu. I should?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, I just get I get terrified with my knees.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet no. You know what, you do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of rolling on you start out. You can start out

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<v Speaker 1>on your knees, so you know. I never hurt my

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<v Speaker 1>knees doing jiu jitsu. Yeah, and I have niece three

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<v Speaker 1>operations that shit. Try it because box is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt my shoulder. Yeah, it's shoulders jack. If I've foreseen it,

1:35:10.000 --> 1:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you can't you know boxing. If two guys know boxing,

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<v Speaker 1>the big guy is gonna win nine times out of ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hit you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit him, come on four and sixty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe one game. But they do have weight divisions, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do have weight divisions. You know, did we miss

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<v Speaker 1>anything about this game or any of this? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. We got it all. I think so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are trying to remember where I was when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. I know I saw it. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>bar used to go to call the lamp post. That

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<v Speaker 1>was probably there. We gotta get to the lamp post.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta, we gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a games and names go to the

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<v Speaker 2>lamp post and do another game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the lamp post is not the same now, probably isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll find it strip joint or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But before that was was it was owned by a

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<v Speaker 1>mob guy. You can make a lot of bets in there,

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<v Speaker 1>Old Youngstown. I never heard of a place in Youngstown

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<v Speaker 1>with a mob guys. Well, if you google Youngstown, google

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<v Speaker 1>Youngstown Murdertown, USA, Murdertown, USA or Bombtown USA. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, there were one hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>unsolved bombings of automobiles with people in them from called

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<v Speaker 1>the Youngstown Tune Up.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimetown USA.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they got it the bomb on a crime Google

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<v Speaker 1>the Youngstown.

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<v Speaker 3>Youngstown had seventy five bombings eleven killings in a decade

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<v Speaker 3>and no one seems to care, you know, after years

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<v Speaker 3>of being called bombtown and murder town already by other publications,

1:36:45.400 --> 1:36:48.519
<v Speaker 3>this one was Crimetown, USA, and it really stuck. As

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny chitsielly, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A producer of mob Talk, I know, Youngs Time Mob Talk.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is brought to you by the Youngstown Traveled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm on that today, Young's Time up. You might

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<v Speaker 2>get tuned up. And if and everyone might get tuned

1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:09.080
<v Speaker 2>up right now, if you don't go on FX and

1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:14.519
<v Speaker 2>watch clip that airs on Tuesday exclusively on Hulu, you're

1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna get tuned up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's where that tuned up probably comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I remember you just say you can get tuned

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<v Speaker 1>up kid. No, that was for a car. No, but

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<v Speaker 1>that also make you're tuned up about to get Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right right.

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<v Speaker 2>You got toned. He got tuned up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that was he got tuned up ed. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for con.

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<v Speaker 1>On this so much. This is awesome, man, that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so cool. He's a legend, legend and like.

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<v Speaker 3>Athlete in his heart right he might have had his

1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:48.479
<v Speaker 3>career as an actor and all these hit shows and

1:37:48.520 --> 1:37:50.439
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff. But like the way he was talking,

1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:53.640
<v Speaker 3>like and he was talking about football from the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was yesterday, like it was yesterday, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he proceeded to put me in a Brasilian jiu jitsu move.

1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>After the show, I got footage of that. I feel

1:38:06.280 --> 1:38:08.839
<v Speaker 2>you actually feeling like the when he breathed, did the breathing.

1:38:09.040 --> 1:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, didn't want to hurt Al Bundy.

1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean four touchdowns in nineteen sixty six in one game,

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<v Speaker 2>no shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hit the old hot line.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that number is four two four two nine one

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<v Speaker 2>two two nine zero.

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<v Speaker 5>So boys love the Pods. My name is Ryan from

1:38:32.439 --> 1:38:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Somerville Matts just want the jewels. He made my life

1:38:34.960 --> 1:38:38.080
<v Speaker 5>growing up super easy and it was awesome growing up.

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<v Speaker 5>The question I had is who was the smelliest guy

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<v Speaker 5>in the locker room after practice games meeting?

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<v Speaker 4>Who was that guy?

1:38:45.880 --> 1:38:50.559
<v Speaker 5>Always just smells like man, that guy works hard, Thank

1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:51.519
<v Speaker 5>you boys love the pods.

1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>That guy worked hard, so he smelled. Usually it was

1:38:54.920 --> 1:38:58.479
<v Speaker 2>a big fat guys they smell. But the one who

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<v Speaker 2>always I used to have a fuck problem with Amndola.

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<v Speaker 2>He would because Danny never wore socks, and he'd wear

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<v Speaker 2>new shoes all the time. But sometimes he'd wear a

1:39:08.479 --> 1:39:10.160
<v Speaker 2>pair of shoes, like three or four times, would be

1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:12.240
<v Speaker 2>in a meat and he have his feet on. My Yeo, bro,

1:39:12.720 --> 1:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have fucking socks on. I could smell your

1:39:14.920 --> 1:39:17.639
<v Speaker 2>feet from here. You take those guys, well, you put

1:39:17.680 --> 1:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>some socks on. You're not that cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the candle budget at the wide receiver room?

1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.439
<v Speaker 2>We didn't even have. You couldn't have anything burning in.

1:39:24.560 --> 1:39:26.759
<v Speaker 2>I think there's no burning of anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think anola is your answer to this?

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<v Speaker 2>He had some smelly little feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I've I've heard in Granted, I was never in

1:39:35.360 --> 1:39:37.200
<v Speaker 3>the building. I was never in the room. It's only

1:39:37.320 --> 1:39:39.800
<v Speaker 3>secondary sources, but I have some sources.

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<v Speaker 1>That say it was you.

1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't smell. I don't smell I may had a

1:39:45.000 --> 1:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>messy locker room here and.

1:39:46.040 --> 1:39:49.720
<v Speaker 3>There Kent State jersey shirts that you wear every day.

1:39:49.920 --> 1:39:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I took that right off and I was

1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:55.280
<v Speaker 2>in the shower immediately. Okay, okay, I didn't smell and

1:39:55.320 --> 1:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I had good fragrances. I used to steal Tom's perfume.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to call and what is your favorite story.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a vacation with some of your teammates on the

1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>on the.

1:40:18.680 --> 1:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Patriots favorite story of vacation? Remember when me, Danny and

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<v Speaker 2>Tom went to Montana for a fourth of July to train.

1:40:32.400 --> 1:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>We had like three days of hard training. Tom left

1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to me and Danny state extra day and like there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many activities with Tom, Like everything is scheduled out.

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<v Speaker 1>You got two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>For this, an hour for that, you know, or we

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<v Speaker 2>have we have dinner at this time, we have to

1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>go do this at that time he left. We literally

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<v Speaker 2>just took two quads and just went up the mountain

1:40:56.040 --> 1:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and uh, we were doing like donuts and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I rolled one of the quads fully broken,

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<v Speaker 2>left at the person's house we're staying at.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say a word, just got in the car

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<v Speaker 1>and left. How does.

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<v Speaker 3>How does the invite for that go? Is that a

1:41:10.800 --> 1:41:12.360
<v Speaker 3>text or is that like a tap on the shoulder

1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:15.679
<v Speaker 3>from someone else? That's what Tom would text me, Tom

1:41:15.720 --> 1:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>text Tom text yeah two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny that you mentioned that story because we did

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<v Speaker 3>it years ago. We did a trip to Israel and

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<v Speaker 3>you left a day early and after you were gone,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the best day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last one.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, guys, I'll get go on. My question is for Julian. Julian,

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<v Speaker 4>I know that when you were playing football you have

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty strict diet about what you would eat. Your

1:41:47.920 --> 1:41:53.640
<v Speaker 4>very health conscious and all that. I am curious if

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<v Speaker 4>there was anything that you ate during that time that

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<v Speaker 4>you hated so much the you have no interest in

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<v Speaker 4>taking a vie.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to eat alligator because it has like these

1:42:11.600 --> 1:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>rich omegas and it's also got like more protein than

1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>a fish. I remember eating that and I was like, first,

1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:22.479
<v Speaker 2>like I'm trying to like trick myself the first time

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<v Speaker 2>I eat it, like, oh, it kind of tastes like chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. Then after eating it for like eight weeks

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<v Speaker 2>straight on every Tuesday, I'm like, I don't know if

1:42:31.280 --> 1:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I can eat this somewhere it doesn't taste like chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of fishy. So alligator or alligator alligator cut that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great answer. What a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks aged to Ed. Make sure you watch FX is Clipped.

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<v Speaker 1>sound right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never remember Jack. Huh, I'll never be Jack. He's

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