1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team? 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: We're we're a little biased here, and we got six 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: you know, that's it. That's the record. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: It's not four touchdowns in sixty six. But on today's 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: episode legendary actors starring in two of the greatest sitcoms 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: of all time, Ed O'Neil pulled that thought. We're covering 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: super Bowl nine Pittsburgh still is for some Minnesota vikings. 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah, 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: so I was still following things pretty closely. How mean 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: was mean? Joe Green? Mean as hell? My whole idea 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: was knock the shit out of you and I'll progress. 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Instead of tackling, I would hit him with a forearm. 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: It was like Kamakazi football. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: You would have been a great special teamer. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Probably they good doggy back Doggy thraining. Who's the coolest 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: cameo you guys ever had? Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible. 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: We had Lawrence Taylor, Kenny Stabler, Bubba Smith. We had 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: a thing where we come up against each other. It 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: was a goal line stand and when we rehearsed it, 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: he couldn't go back. It was like getting in with 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: an actual Grizzly Bear. And finally I went to the 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: guys and said, Hey, this ain't gonna work at Chris Farley. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I knew Chris can't remember that seedy Farley stories. I'll 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: tell you the greatest Farley story you'll ever hear in 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: your life. 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, that's Kyler, and we are on the 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: search to find the greatest game of all time. Jack's 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: back in North Carolina today. He's still stat correcting, though, folks. 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: He's blown up mine. He's blown off the phone. Yeah, 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: he's with us. 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: He blown it up. He blown it up. 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: On today's episode, we're covering Super Bowl nine. The Pittsburgh 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: still is for some Minnesota purple people. Eater Vikings defensive 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: line with former Steeler and legendary actor star of FX's 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: clipped Ed O'Neil. On this episode, we get into talking 38 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: old Polkai football. 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: You guys know, touchdowns nineteen sixty six. 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: In one game, one game, in one game, City Championship, 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: City Championship. What it was like starring in two of 42 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: the greatest sitcoms, sitcoms of all time, we get into 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: talking Steelers, you get an inside perspective. I mean he 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: was on Chuck Noles first yep Steelers team and training camp. 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Mean Joe Greens first year or two? Mean Joe Green? 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: We asked him, is me and Joe Green? That mean 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: you get the insune in and you'll know. 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. 49 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Great episode. Look forward to having you guys. Listen, Let's go. 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: January fifteenth, nineteen seventy five, two Lane Stadium, New Orleans, Louisiana. 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Still Curtain versus the Purple People, leaders for all the Marbles. 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: On a cold, wet afternoon in the Big Easy, A 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: dynasty is born before our eyes. This is super Bowl Nice. 54 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: That was great. Welcome to games with Names. 55 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: We have a very special guest, an idol of not 56 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: just me, my father, anyone who's over thirty. Their parents 57 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: all grew up with him in our household. And then 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: he went on to go on and do another crazy 59 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: sitcom that took over and it was like the best 60 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: sitcom modern day. Marywood Children. We have Ed O'Neil, thanks 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: for joining. 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Us, Thank you, my pleasure, Jewel. We got Kyler over here. 63 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: We got Leah and Jackson. I didn't meet you actually, 64 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: and today we are looking at Super Bowl nine, the 65 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers versus the Minnesota Vikings Classic game. Now, why 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: why do you like this game? I like all the 67 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Yeah, you know, and this was not too 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: long after I got cut. Yeah, so I was still 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: following things pretty closely. And you know, I knew all 70 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: about frank O Harris and those guys because they came 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: a year after I got cut. And I'm when I 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: got cut, I said, I got cut. I had a 73 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: cup of coffee with them. Basically, That's about it. But yeah, 74 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: so I was still, you know, sitting in the bar 75 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: with my buddies watching these games. Yeah, and glad I 76 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: wasn't playing at that point. Yeah. Well you had to 77 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: be vested because you got drafted with me and Joe Green. 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: You got drafted with a lot of these Pro Football 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, and so you got to enjoy. And 80 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: it was Chuck noles first year, right, it was noles 81 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: first year, and so you got. 82 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: To you had his first training camp and you got 83 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: to know these people. So you get vested because you 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: have relationships with these guys. 85 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, I mean it was you know, it was. 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: It was very intense. You know you've been to those camps. 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't make a whole lot of friends. 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: It was a job, yes, but it was it was fun. 89 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, as opposed to college. I mean, 90 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why you would think it 91 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed the training 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: down there. Yeah. 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: You know what people don't realize because I was a 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent, 95 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: so they signed you exactly. 96 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: last round of our draft, which some would argue it's 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: better to be a free agent because you get two 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: years contract instead of locking you. 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: In for a third. 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback. But 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: ninety guys, they got to cut it down to fifty 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: three and you're sitting where you did you used to 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: play the numbers game, You're sitting in training camp. Well, 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: they're going to keep this guy, They're going to keep 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: that guy. 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had I had a situation where, you know, 111 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if yours was the same as ours, 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: but ours the Steelers they would put a board up 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: and if your name wasn't on it, you were cut. 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a nice way to do it. 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, you don't see your name as this guy 116 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: got cut. You know, people don't know you. They don't 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: even know you got cut. 118 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: the locker room and they have this guy with everyone 120 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: calls the Turk. It's probably like he's like an offensive 121 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: assistant of assistant of another assistant. And he comes up 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: to your locker and he taps on your shoulder and 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: he says, hey, head coach wants to see you. Bring 124 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: your playbook. 125 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, I had that. See they went to they 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: went through when it started out, okay, they had so 127 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: many guys they cut the way I just mentioned. But 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: then if you got along some then it turned into uh, oh, 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: by the way, coach snow would like to see you 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: in his office in your playbook. That's what happened to me. Yeah, 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: so but then there, you know how nice they are 132 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: to you when you're going there. 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: You know we're going a different route. 134 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: You know, you're just not well with me, it was, well, 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: you never played outside linebacker and you're trying to make 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: the team and learn the position at the same time. 137 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: That's hard to do. I said, yeah. He said, well 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I think they I think I think I remember it 139 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: as well. You can go to the Eagles if you 140 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: want to and have don't give you a good look. 141 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the PA Pike. But I need to know right now. 143 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened to my thinking. It 144 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna what I want to drive a 145 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: car the Philadelphia No, I said, I've done. I'm finished. 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. Well that was it, but I was 147 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: getting sick of it, to be honest with you. I 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: played for two colleges. I had some knee problems, and 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I just I don't know what it was. I didn't 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: even like coach as much, you know, I got I 151 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: don't I like Noel. He was when I didn't get 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: to know him much, but he was a real gentleman, 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: and I thought he was a nice guy. He was, 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: but I had coaches in college I didn't like at 155 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: all in high school too. I had to start thinking 156 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: maybe it was my fault. It was to that point. Gee, 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I was finished. I said. He said, well, what are 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: you going to do? I said, I don't know, but 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: not this. And then I remember when I went to 160 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: my back to the dorm room I had, you know, 161 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver San 162 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Diego State. He made the team as a defensive back 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: and he only played one year. I think he broke 164 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: his back, but he made it. But I went in 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: and he was like, what happened? What do you think? 166 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: So I was backing up and the guy came in, 167 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: you know, they said, well, the car's out there. Where 168 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: not from Pittsburgh, and I but I knew a guy. 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: I knew a friend in Pittsburgh. So I said, now 171 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, okay, we'll drive 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: you to Pittsburgh. You know it's not too it's Latrobe. 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: way out because your cleats are there in the locker, 175 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of swag for you. We 176 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: got great jerseys and T shirts and hats and shorts. 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: And I said, I don't want any of that shit. 178 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: He said, you don't want the it's good stuff. I 179 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: don't want it. I'm gonna wear it. I'm not wearing it. 180 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't want the cleats either, I'm not going to 181 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and 182 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: So I was trying. I didn't want to go home. Yeah, 184 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: it was what it was. So I didn't you want 185 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: to go home? You know, I mean, that was all 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: screwed up. I thought, I don't want to go home 187 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: and have to explain this. So I said, uh, it 188 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: was still in the summertime. So I directed them up 189 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: a street and I saw a bar. It was a 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: local bar with the door open the summertime, the doors 191 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: no air, you know, the door were open. I said, 192 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: right here, my friend lives right around that bar. Just 193 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: drop me off here, you sure, you know? They kind 194 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: of said, yeah, give me the bag audios. So I 195 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: went in the bar and it was like two o'clock 196 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and they were like a couple of 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, locals. It was a local joint. Ye. Yeah, 198 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: So I walk in. I'm twenty three years old. They 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: don't know me. I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and 200 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: they're looking was this good? I order a beer and 201 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: they got the TV up high, you know, on the wall, 202 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: and we're watching it and the the news comes on 203 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon. Wow, that's 204 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, if somebody 205 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: had a good day, he had the golf club, right yeah, 206 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: And I'm watching it and then they went to the 207 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: sports and of course it's Pittsburgh, so they go linebacker 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers, and there's my 209 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: picture and these guys are in the in the bar 210 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: and they look. They go, you're at O'Neill. Yeah, yeah, 211 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: and they said, your money's good here. Now they're all 212 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in 213 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: the morning and some some car with some girl with 214 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: a state hoopie pulling me over. You know, I don't 215 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: even know my name at this point. And the guy 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: looks in and I think I had my shirt off 217 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and you know, that was almost naked. And I'm driving though, 218 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: and he says, you know, I had my drivers. He said, 219 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: did you get cut today from Pittsburgh. I said, yep. 220 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: He said, miss can you drive? She said, yeah, he 221 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: just he's just driving around. And he said, can you 222 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: drive this guy home? And she said, I'll take him. 223 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Says he knows somebody, and he said, letting him go 224 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: because it was you know, it. 225 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: Was Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers. They love them Steelers. 226 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: Even if you got cut, it doesn't make any You're 227 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: still part of the team. You're still part of the 228 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: team anyway. That's my I don't think i've told that 229 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: story ever. 230 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: That So you were a defensive wineman in college. 231 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: I played mansome joker middle guard, middle guard on defense, okay, 232 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and I played defensive end and I played tight end 233 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: in college. Okay. You know I just went around like that. 234 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 3: So what was the you said that You mentioned you 235 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp? 236 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: What was That's all you got? That's all they had 237 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: for me. You know, I couldn't be a cornerback. I 238 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: wasn't quick enough. I mean I ran a four seven 239 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: forty in sixty eight. That's that's my number though, But 240 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: you know that's fast. I was about two thirty. 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Four seven for seven, then two thirty that's like a 242 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: two sixty guy running four six. 243 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: And then I did. But you guys didn't train. 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: For it like that. That was athlete, that was that 245 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: was fast. Then I don't know, you only had a 246 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: couple of four four guys in the team. 247 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know when I did, I did it. I 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: narrated the thing on uh Peyton Manning, you know that 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: timeline and when I and it was so nicely written. 250 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: I was very impressed with it. And this was not 251 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: long ago. And I was struck by the fact that 252 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: he was coached. And you were too right. Your dad 253 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: was a coach. My dad was a coach. And I 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: mean I was never coached. Not I don't think I 255 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: was really ever coached. We just played pickup ball. And 256 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: when we went to high school there was coaches there. 257 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: But it's a long story. They didn't really coach me. 258 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: It was just my whole idea was knock the shit 259 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: out of you and I'll progress. So it wasn't the 260 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: best way to learn football. The game has changed now. 261 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: Well now, that used to be the old that used 262 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: to be the ultimate equalizer of the guy who will. 263 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Even then it didn't work right. Even then, it didn't 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: work right. Because you could hit a guy like on 265 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: a reverse. Say they run around and you're in and 266 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you've got a clean shot, and instead of tackling him, 267 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I would hit him with a forearm and sometimes they 268 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't go down, you know, they'd spin and keep going. 269 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean it was like that, you know, it was this. 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: He was like Kamakazi football that you would have been 271 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: a great special teamer. Probably. I used to do that. 272 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, back when I first got in the league, they 273 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: used to have wedges. Oh yeah on the kickoffs. Now 274 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: the whole new thing kickoff rules. Yeah, practice kickoff, but 275 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: it'll be electric. There'll be a lot of touchdowns. But 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: the old days, you'd have three or four guys and 277 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: your job was to run sixty yards and you hit 278 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: the three hundred and twenty pound guard that's in the 279 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: wedge full speed. It's like there's this guy, Bubba Vantrone. 280 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: He's as a special team coordinator. I think for Indianapolis. 281 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: That dude used to run down. He was two hundred 282 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: and five pounds, He could run fast. He was probably 283 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: a four to three guy. And I swear he knocked 284 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: himself out at least every game at once. Yeah, but 285 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: he did his job. Yeah, he was a badass at 286 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: doing it. 287 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were the guys when I was playing that, 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, there were hitters today. I mean the game 289 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: has really gotten so much more sophisticated. I mean really, 290 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean athletically, size wise, speed wise, and even when 291 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I played, it was a lot faster than college. Yeah, 292 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, like if they're like I'd getten a scrimmage 293 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: and some plays I never even got touched because I 294 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: wasn't where I should be. They'll leave you alone. If 295 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you got in the action, that's where you got hit. 296 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: There's rules, yeah, and it through any I mean it's 297 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: like with anything over time. The evolution, the technology, the information, 298 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: the studying of the older habits, the studying of the 299 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: newer athlete, the new penalties, the new rules, everything dictates 300 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: the type of game. Let's jump into how how did 301 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: it go down when you sign as a priority free agent. 302 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: You went to Youngstown after going to Ohio University, which 303 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: I was a mac daddy. I went to Kent State 304 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: used to play against Ohio. Actually went to a. 305 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Kent State. I went up there. 306 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: I'd watched games and I watched, Oh you play Kent State. 307 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Somebody won in a field goal. I forget. I think, 308 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: oh you won a field goal, like fifty one yard 309 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: field goal or something. It was unbelievable and that, you know, 310 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I was happy, but I couldn't show it because I 311 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: was with my sisters at Kent State. Yeah, but I 312 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: can't stay. It was a nice school. It was. It 313 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: was cool. I mean, I was your coach. It's a 314 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: strange coach. I had, Doug Martin. No, I'm thinking of 315 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: a different guy. 316 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: Well, the cool thing is so you probably you're sixty nine. 317 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Saban went to Kent State. I think he was out 318 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: there seventy he was seventy two was his last year. 319 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: He was on the MAC championship team, the last MAC 320 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: championship team before I got there. But uh Ohio was 321 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: always like the did they have cool halloweens at Ohio 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: University back then? 323 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Because that was like the thing. And Saint Patti's Day 324 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: was a big day. Yeah, they died the Hawking River 325 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Green Yeah, oh man, it was. It was, oh you suicide. 326 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: It was. 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: It was a fun school it was, and a. 328 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful Hawking River Valley and all the buildings, I 329 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: mean it looked like it was made in eighteen hundred. 330 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: It was really nice. I even got in trouble, I 331 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: mean trouble with the coaches playing there, because when I 332 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: came from Youngstown, our manner of playing in Youngstown was 333 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: what we talked about, and it wasn't that way at OU. 334 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: For example, I did very well at middle guard at 335 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: high school because I was only about one point eighty, 336 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: but I was fast. It was very quick, and I'd 337 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: play over the center and i'd bang them and you know, 338 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: depending on the field, i'd go, you know, or i'd 339 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: shoot a gap, blow a gap. When I got to Ohiou, 340 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: they had a really good middle guard that had graduated. 341 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: His name was Lance Tigger. It's a great name, yeah, 342 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: And he was not a big guy, but he was 343 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: very good player. And his method was he would sit 344 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: back on his haunches at the snap like a baseball catcher, 345 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: and he would kind of use his forums as his 346 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: hands to gep yeah, as a shiver, and then he 347 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: could go when I was long, and I couldn't do that. 348 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, I was on all four and I had 349 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: to be going forward. And they kept making me like 350 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: play like they wanted me to play like him. I said, 351 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm not him. I'm not built like him, so that 352 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: was my right off the bat. It was like I 353 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: was starting as a freshman. Yeah, I mean, but it 354 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: was illegal, so I couldn't actually get in the game. 355 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: But they were in spring ball. I was first team. 356 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: And then didn't you because you played freshman ball, you 357 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: couldn't start, didn't you used to play against Roger stall Back? 358 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Well, I played against Staubach in an actual game. Yeah, 359 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: explained When was that he was Let's see, that would 360 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: have been sixty seven. It was a military game, right, Yeah, 361 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: he was at Pensacola Naval Station. He was doing his 362 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: bit his time after Annapolis, and they had like two 363 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: or three all American receivers. I think one was from 364 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: usc and one was somewhere else. So he just for 365 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: him to throw to, you know. Yeah, And that was 366 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: the longest goddamn game I ever played in my life. 367 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: He threw every play and if you did, if he 368 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: didn't throw, he just ran around back there, chased them, 369 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: chase him, and I finally hit him out of bounds 370 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: illegally because I chased them, chased them, chased him, and 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: he stepped out and I just kept coming and it 372 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: was right on his sidelines, and there was a guy 373 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: named Lynch who was the heavyweight boxing champ of Annapolis. Oh, 374 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: he wanted to kill me, you know, because he was 375 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: on the sidelink. And I said, hey man, you know 376 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I chased the son of a bitch. You know I'm 377 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna hit him. I'm good friends with Roger. 378 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: Now Oh yeah, yeah, he's a studied came and talked 379 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: to our team a few years ago. 380 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we'd always. 381 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Have someone influential that has had a lot of success 382 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: in sport or something to come talk to the team. 383 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: And he he was an interesting guy that just you 384 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: could tell he Dudley do right crosses his t's do 385 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: You could just that, And he was you could tell 386 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: he's a leader. 387 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd said, gosh, darn it, he whizz come out there. 388 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, my out Youngstown, Ohio baby Youngstown. 389 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: But he's a wonderful guy. And that guy was such 390 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: a great great He's the best I ever played over 391 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: or played against Himyah, there's no doubt he was the best. 392 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. 393 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: So how did you who who was your team growing 394 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: up in Youngstown? If if you was that because the 395 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: Browns were really good then Giants were because because that's 396 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: what you saw on TV. 397 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Probably I saw The Violent World of Sam Huff. Yeah 398 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: you remember that. No, Oh my god, I'm so old. 399 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: It was one of the first things out in this 400 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: in this format. And they had a linebacker from West 401 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: Virginia who went to the Giants, Sam Huff, and uh, 402 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: they we all know Sam Huff, I don't I do do, okay, 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: So it was called The Violent World of Sam Huff 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: and they miked him. No one had ever been miked 405 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: before and it was it was like an hour long 406 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: special of him middle linebacker, and that got us all gone. Man, 407 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was great. Yeah yeah, and 408 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: talking bullshit and everything, you know, talking ship. It was great. 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: So that's so. But even before that, I don't know why. 410 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: I must have been my dad. Somebody liked the Giants 411 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: and uh and we didn't like the Browns. Yeah, I 412 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: don't know. And I went up to training camp. I 413 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: had my dad take me up because it was Hiram College, 414 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: well you know, he was from Kent to watch the 415 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: summer workouts and Jim Brown was playing. So I in 416 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: my life, I've never asked for an autograph in my life, 417 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: not before or since. And I was I think twelve, 418 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: and he came out, you know, he was like, you know, 419 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: it was one of those dog day afternoons, right, and 420 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: he's sitting there and he's got his pads here, and 421 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: he's just and he had that mohawk. The guy looked 422 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: like he was great. You know. The guy was amazing looking. 423 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: So my dad said, go again, no, I've got so 424 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I went over to him and he looked up a 425 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: him and he saw me coming, you know, and it 426 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a happy look. And I said autograph. He said 427 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: not now walked away. I never asked for another a 428 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: graph in my life. And later I met Jim and 429 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: got to be kind of friendly with them. Much later, 430 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: you know. I think when one of the elections, I 431 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: ran into him and I told him that and he said, 432 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: oh god, damn, I'm so sorry. You know, I used 433 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: to do that shit. 434 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: In Jim's defense though, like you said, it was the 435 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: second the second. 436 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Practice was it was the second practice. 437 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: Guy's been running. They're running those guys like dogs. Back 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: in those day. That's when training camp. You look at 439 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: a training camp nowaday, you laugh. I had double days 440 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: early in my career for three years, and we jumped 441 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: over to the new rule where you can't have one 442 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: every five days, and it's changed. That's when like training camp, 443 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: these guys. They used to get these guys in crazy shape. 444 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: They'd work them to death. There was no analytics on 445 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: loadage or anything. It was more like when the coach 446 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: got tired of yelling, that's when practice was over. 447 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: That was about it. In fact, that day they scrimmaged 448 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and Brown. You know, of course everyone's watching Jim Brown 449 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: and Frank Ryan was the quarterback. Remember Frank Ryan, And uh, 450 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm watching Jim Brown, and he wasn't doing anything. I mean, 451 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: he'd come out of the huddle, he'd be in the huddle, 452 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: the huddle would break, he'd hardly move, take one or 453 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: two steps, and then he just like he wouldn't even 454 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: get in a three point maybe very slowly. Ball would 455 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: be snapped and he'd walk off to one side or 456 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: the other and they'd either hand it to a running 457 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: back or Ryan would throw a pass. He didn't move, 458 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: and I thought, he's not even practicing, you know. So 459 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: one play he walked off to the side, Ryan went 460 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: back to throw, and then he drifted out and he 461 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: got a little screen out to the left right by us, 462 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: and he turned. He's coming hard like running towards us. 463 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: And then he's cutting it up and there's two guys 464 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: coming to hit him with the sidelines. One went low, 465 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: he hit the guy with his knee, and the other 466 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: guy came high and he punched the guy in the neck, 467 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean hard, and dropped both of them and took 468 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: two more steps and stepped out of bounds and then 469 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: he walked back. That was Jim Brown's thing. Oh my god, 470 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: it was something to say. Man. Was he was bigger 471 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: than those guys. He was to twenty five to thirty, 472 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: and he was faster than every waist. Was this big? 473 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: Was he the best football player you ever saw. 474 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: That I ever saw. Yeah, there's no no question. 475 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: Belichick talks about how good Jim Brown was. 476 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I knew Lawrence Taylor pretty well. You know, 477 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: Lawrence did our show and he was with us for 478 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: a week. That's the best way to play football. Have 479 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: a show where you're you're in that ridiculous uniform there 480 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: and you never get hit. Pokai pocai jack. Oh you 481 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: got that? My god, that's great. What are you talking about. 482 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: That's so funny. 483 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: My dad is the Al Bundy of pop twelve year 484 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: old Pop Warner football coaches. He never played football, but 485 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: he thinks he's Al Bundy of the coaches of Pop 486 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: Warner of twelve year olds. 487 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 3: So for the audio listeners, Jewels just put on a 488 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: Polkai varsity jacket. 489 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: No, that THEI jacketing. I didn't see that over there. 490 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: What memories do you think about when you first see 491 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: this jacket? 492 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: Well, we had so much fun on that show. I 493 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: mean that show. It was a crazy show. The writers 494 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: creators of that show was a Jewish guy from from 495 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: Brooklyn and a black guy from North Carolina, and together 496 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: they were like they look like gas station attendants, but 497 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: they were brilliantly funny guys and just completely out to 498 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: lunch the whole thing, you know. But we were laughed 499 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: so hard. I mean it was it was really hysterical. 500 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: And you know, every year we thought we were going 501 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: to go you know, like every season I thought, two 502 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: three shows, they're going to tell us to go home. Yeah, 503 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: and it just kept going. 504 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: Now it was an eleven year run, you guys had, 505 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: which spanned a lot of my childhood. But getting in 506 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: that routine, that that day to day life when you know, 507 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: because I remember being with Grown for ten years, you know, 508 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: when you come to work, he knows when I'm in 509 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: a bad mood. You know, when they're in a bad mood. 510 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: You're in the locker room. Then you got to go 511 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: out to practice and perform. And you know what I mean, 512 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: did you have any of those moments where you kind 513 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: of just knew what was going on? 514 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, how was the day to day life? Well, when 515 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: you're very similar to playing ball, I mean without the contact, yeah, 516 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, you know, and of course it's it's 517 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: guys and gals. Yeah, so that's that's obviously different, but 518 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: you're still performing. You know, you've got a live audience, 519 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: and so you kind of it's a teamwork thing. You 520 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: really do have to have that kind of sense of 521 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: a team and uh, you know, when one's down, you 522 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: try to pick them up, and you know, yeah, it's 523 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: it's very similar actually. And also the discipline that you 524 00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: that you do develop, you know, somehow playing football help me, 525 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I you know, like even now this 526 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: thing I just did FX promotes like you can't believe, 527 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, and and I do it so. 528 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: Ed is talking about the news show that premiered I 529 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: think this week. Yesterday I watched the first episode Clipped. 530 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: First two episodes came out on Hulu. Awesome story about 531 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: the whole ending of the empire of the Sterling family, Clippers, 532 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: the Clippers owner. We all remember that in twenty thirteen, 533 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: you know it's I watched that. I only watched one episode. 534 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's ours kind of that's the table. Yeah. 535 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: But that first episode, I mean. 536 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: It's l A, you know, it's l A and all 537 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the and all the underbelly of LA and oh it is. 538 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really cool, like you got me 539 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: to forget that you were Albundy modern family dad. 540 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad, you know. And good acting. That's called, 541 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, good acting. Well, you know, believe, just sit 542 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: down and they give you the piece and then they 543 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: make you. They did something to your skin. Apparently this 544 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: guy had sort of bumpy something and then tan like 545 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: he liked the sun, and then the glasses and all that. 546 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: And then I listened to his voice, which is kind 547 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: of I wasn't really trying to imitate, how you couldn't 548 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: but sort of a pedantic way of speaking. You know, 549 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: like I n g endings were pronounced and a little whiny, 550 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, and I but that's all I did. Yeah, 551 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: and everything was in the script. The script was really good. 552 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: Now, how do you remember your lines when you had 553 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 2: go through the script? 554 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: Is it hard? 555 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: Because I had some cameos and I get so nervous 556 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: hard when I'm learning the script. 557 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: But here's what you do. You do you just learned 558 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: scene by scene. So in other words, if you're doing 559 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: two scenes in a day or whatever your whatever your 560 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: job is, you just learned that scene and you just 561 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: do that scene. And then the next day, you know, 562 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: you have another scene, so you take it. You know, 563 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: it's just design to create a story. At the end 564 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: of the day. You don't have to worry about down 565 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: the road. You know, that's someone else's job. 566 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: So like on Wednesday, install it's just first and second down, 567 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: On Thursday's third down, and then Friday it's red area exactly, 568 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: and then we just put it all together at the. 569 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: End of the day. That you're a genius, you know, Well, 570 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this is a. 571 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: Big trend in Hollywood with a lot of sports scripted 572 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: content happening in the world. 573 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Well, are you talking about my experience. I did a 574 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: movie called Little Giants My Favorite, which is great. That's 575 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: where I met John Madden because John's in it. I'll 576 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: tell you funny this is. I mean, I'm just all 577 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: over the place. But when I met John, you know, 578 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: I was just high high and oh god, this is hilarious. Actually, 579 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: the first time I met John was in New York 580 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: City and I'm walking up the street by Central Park 581 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: with a friend of mine named J. J. Johnston, who's 582 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a legendary passed on now legendary guy had been in prison, 583 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: came out, became an actor, one of David Mammott's guys. Yeah, 584 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: one of my greatest characters in the world that I knew. 585 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: And we're walking up and he's got to buy suitcases 586 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: because he's going with Al Pacino to London to do 587 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: American Buffalo in London. And he didn't have any luggage 588 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: because he's from Chicago, but he just took a bag, 589 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: so he got this cheap suitcases. I'm lugging one, he's 590 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: lugging the other. We're going back to where he's staying 591 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: and I hear him go John John Jesus Christ. It's 592 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: John John and Madden's caddy corner. He goes, hey, what 593 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: are you doing? Come here, you motherfucker. It comes over. 594 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: He says, how you doing? You know he's a big guy, 595 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: John Big, how you doing? Goodness? See, yes, it's good 596 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: to see your kid. You're looking great. Where you're headed. 597 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm just going down here. I got to meet a 598 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: guy for I got a little meeting with some guys here. 599 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: But some uh you know Ed O'Neil. He said, no, 600 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I know who you are. I haven't had the pleasure, 601 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: he said, ed, John the great John Madden gave me 602 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: he loves say hello. I said, okay, but he's looking 603 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: at me like he looks scared. And I thought, what 604 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: the hell, because we look like muggers. You know, we 605 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: look like this guy if you saw him. So now 606 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: John says, hey man, I gotta go, and he said, 607 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, John, lovely to see you. Go ahead, kid, 608 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: a great guy. He goes down the street and I said, 609 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: how do you know John Man? He said, I don't, 610 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: John l He was terrified. I thought we were gonna 611 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: mug him. So now much later I'm working with him, 612 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, in Little Giants. And then I did that 613 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: timeline thing years after that, so by this time, I 614 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: know his son Mike, who's well, the greatest guy. You know, 615 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Mike's a great guy. So Mike called John and said, 616 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: I saw this thing timeline and on Peyton's comeback with 617 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Wes Walker Walker and the neck injury. So he sent 618 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: it to John. So John sent it to Mike, and 619 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: then Mike called me. He said he thinks it's one 620 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: of the best things he ever saw on pro football. Wow, 621 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean the way it was written. I narrated it. Yeah, 622 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: you got to check it out. So it's only an 623 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: hour long. So anyway, I was interviewed about it and 624 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I was never emotional about quitting football. Never. 625 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: I didn't miss it. I didn't give a shit about it. 626 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: And I'm narrating this thing and I'm almost finished with 627 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: the narration. We almost went all the way through. And 628 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: it's like not quite twilight in the in the show, 629 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the sun is set, but it's 630 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: still light. Yeah, And they're in this abandoned stadium, I 631 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: think Tennessee or somewhere, and he's doing a mock drive 632 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: down the field with his receivers Welker and so and 633 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: so in the running back and he's making up linebackers. 634 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: You know, watch the mic line. I never heard that term, 635 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: by the way, Mike linebacker, but they're saying that, and 636 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: the he's doing the omaha thing, you know, and they're 637 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: driving down the field and it's it's kind of relaxed, 638 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it, and the dialogue is there's 639 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: no place in the world he'd rather be than here 640 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: right now doing this something like that, And I actually 641 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: got emotional. I mean, the the memories of playing football 642 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: with my friends as a kid and everything. It was 643 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: like almost overwhelming. I can hardly talk. And I thought, 644 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: where did this come from? You know? Yeah, I loved it. 645 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: It was great. You don't lose that, you know, you 646 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: think you get away from it, but you really don't now, 647 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: and that's what you miss the most. Yeah, that's what 648 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: you miss the most, you know, is your friends and 649 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: your camaraderie. 650 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the locker room time. I mean, I miss competing 651 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: at a high level. I miss Oh well, yeah you 652 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: did it at the highest level. You missed that. But 653 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: you can find that in other ways. Yeah, it's the 654 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: real you know, getting yelled at with your boys, winning 655 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: a game with the boys, the flight home after a 656 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: road victory with the boys, you know, in the team. 657 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: It was awesome. You know. I met Brady when he 658 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: was at Michigan. Yeah, and he was gonna They were 659 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: playing the Rose Bowl. They were out in Pasadena, and 660 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: I got a call from my ex high school coach 661 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: named Jerry Hanlon he was now the defensive backfield coach 662 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: from Michigan. Yeah, and he said, hey, you know I 663 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: was doing married. He said, would you come out to 664 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: meet the guys. It's like two or three days before 665 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: the game. I forget how they were playing, but oh yeah, sure. 666 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: So I drive out and I meet the team, and 667 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: I meet Brady and you know, he was he was. 668 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: He was just handing off. Yeah, in Michigan. You can't imagine. 669 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: He had to come back in in the Orange Bowl 670 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: the next year. 671 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: I think was that it Yeah, okay, he would come 672 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: back kid, Yeah, but I mean he was. And then 673 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: I did a pilot with him with oh god, what 674 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: was her name? A beautiful girl from Texas? Anyway, it 675 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: was Jessica. No, Uh, I was playing her father and 676 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: uh and it was her story was and I was, 677 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, I was along for the series if it went, 678 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: which I prayed to god it wouldn't go after we 679 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: shot it. But they had Brady there and they had 680 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: the linebacker Errington, and they had the kid, a kid 681 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: from Dallas and uh and they were like so happy. 682 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: It was like, I think Tom had won one super 683 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Bowl and uh that's when you know, I said, I 684 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: met you at Pasadena. He didn't, you know, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 685 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: you no, he knew, he knew, but it was he 686 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: was just beginning really, you know, although he won that 687 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: one super Bowl, yeah, I may never win another, you know, 688 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: but he did six more. Amazing, crazy, just amazing. 689 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: You're you're John Madden's story reminds me a lot of 690 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: We had Eric stone Street on the show and he 691 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: had almost the exact same story as you meeting John Madden, 692 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: but meeting Tom Brady. 693 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: It was him and Brent. 694 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 3: Veach, who was the GM of the Kansas City Cheeess 695 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: Brett used Eric as a means to talk to Tom Brady. 696 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny. 697 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 2: They called him two inch or something. Yeah, Erict two 698 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: inches just to say hi, and then went back two inch. 699 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: Stone Street's funny. 700 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: He's amazingly funny, and he's he's a very creative guy. 701 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Very creative, I mean amazingly so. 702 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 2: And he's got a knowledge of everything about the chiefs. 703 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: He can he can pick the Royals, of which he's 704 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: a part owner. 705 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: Now yeah, is he a part owner? 706 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: He got bought a little share. Yeah, I don't know 707 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 1: how much. He didn't tell me. Geez. He's a great guy. 708 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: He is a really great guy. He's a great guy. 709 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: You know who you should play? I just thought about it. 710 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: He played Sterling. You gotta you gotta play Chuck Nole. 711 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: I mean, all these little could you play Chuck? 712 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: No I could play Chuck Nole because I mean, I 713 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: mean I don't look like Chuck. Oh, I didn't look 714 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: like Sterling. But you know, Noel was a wine connoisseur too. 715 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: You know, he was a red wine guy, A very 716 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: very sophisticated guy, not like your normal coach quiet, but 717 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, almost like he reminded me of like some 718 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: kind of bird of prey. I mean, in his look, 719 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: had the eyes like like a ha hawk that pointed 720 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: nose thing. Yeah. Him at Bradshaw. You know, they didn't 721 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: they didn't get along at all. Yeah, I think they. 722 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: I think they cleared it up at the end though, 723 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: And he didn't like Handriddy for some reason. Terry Terry 724 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: was the coolest guy you ever would meet, you know, 725 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: remember him, Yeah, he was a notre dame guy. 726 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: But he played this year a little bit Terry. Yeah, 727 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 3: in this two thousands, nine seventy four season. 728 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: It was kind of a sidearm thing, but it was 729 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: this year. 730 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: Man, little giants. What about Wayne's World? I used to 731 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: love I loved jun Waynesbrood, I love d Waynesborod. 732 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I I did that. I just did that as a 733 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: favor to my manager's company, Rosting Gray. They produced that 734 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: movie and it was all about you know, uh Dana 735 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Carvey and uh Mike Mike Myers and and then the 736 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: back when I did it, they weren't getting along and 737 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: they you know, it was almost like Laverne and Shirley. 738 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: One would come out, then the other would come out. 739 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: They do the scene, then they go back. You know. 740 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: It was like I knew both of them. Yeah, because 741 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: we were we had the same managers. That's awesome though, 742 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: that because I've had that. 743 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: I've had teammates where they don't get along, we don't 744 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: get along, yeah, but to come together to make us 745 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: something good, and that's hard that's hard, that's real. 746 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: He wrote. Mike wrote that thing for you know, I 747 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: was that whack job that ran stem mckita's donut shop. Yeah, 748 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: and I remember I had that one speech in the 749 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: dead of winter. When you stab them, man, you can 750 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: see the steam rising from the wounds. Mike was seriously 751 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: it was funny. You know. You know what was Mike 752 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: Mike because he wrote that. He wrote that, you know, 753 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: he wrote all my he wrote my part. And uh 754 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: at Chris Farley, I knew Chris. How is any Farley stories? 755 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the greatest Farley story over here in 756 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: your life. John Lovett's had a Super Bowl party and 757 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: he lived in Brentwood and we all a bunch of guys. 758 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Everybody went and uh, Chris came in late, just before 759 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: the kickoff. He came bursting in the door. You know, 760 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: he made those entrances where he's out of gas. Where's 761 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: going on? You know, he came flying in and he 762 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: was coming from rehab in Venice, like his fifteenth trip. Yeah, 763 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: and we had they had a big spread. It was 764 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: like a Mexican motif, you know, with the food and 765 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: everybody had eaten and had or had a plate and 766 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: everybody was going into the screening room for the kickoff. 767 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: So Farley runs over to the table and he's piling 768 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: up food, you know, and his plate. He's in a 769 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: hurry and it says, leave a little something for the 770 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: rest of us, Chris. That we all went in and 771 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: shut the door. But Chris was out there kick off. 772 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: It's the first series. We're watching whatever, guy, I can't 773 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: remember what game. And the door opens and Chris comes 774 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: walking in and he had taken a loaf of Italian 775 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: bread and he had cut it lengthwise and then he 776 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: put every condiment that was on the table on the sandwich, 777 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, Pepperccini onions to make everything. And in between 778 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: he had sandwiched John Love It's beloved kitty cat, live 779 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: cat in the sandwich and he was holding it. And 780 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: he walked in and said, oh, any fucking thing I 781 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: want to on Super Bowl Sunday, love it scream, you 782 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: know the cat. The cat was like this, you know, 783 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: in the sandwich. Is everyone dying? Oh my god? Can 784 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: you imagine? Oh my god, I can't imagine. But he 785 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: he was the sweetest guy. He was, you know, he 786 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: he was you know a lot of people don't know 787 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: that his father was five hundred pounds. I'm not making 788 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: five hundred pounds up. Yeah, he was five hundred pounds 789 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: and a very successful businessman. But Chris had that fat 790 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Jean couldn't be thin. Yeah, that's tough, Yeah it is. 791 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: I have a picture. I must have left my phone 792 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: in the car. That's okay. We had him recreate it 793 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: the sandwich with the cat without the condiments, but he did, 794 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: and I've got the photo. You know, with the cat. 795 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: You have to get it. Yeah, now we'll be right 796 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: back after this quick break. We gotta jump, we gotta 797 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: we should probably jump into the segment where we get 798 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: into nineteen seventy five. But oh fuck nineteen Well, we 799 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: liked always we always do it back, I'm kidding you. Yeah, 800 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: with where the game took place. 801 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: Let's go back to around January twelfth, nineteen seventy five, 802 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: number one movie, Towering Inferno. I believe they made a remake. 803 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: You don't like remakes. 804 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: I've heard no, and I don't like that one either. 805 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean that it was those movies, you. 806 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 3: Know, Eve McQueen, Paul Newman, Fredis Stare Fey down Away when. 807 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: It was Newman and Steve McQueen, right, they hated each 808 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: other when they shot that. McQueen used to count lines. 809 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: He's got more lines than me. Newman didn't give a shit. Yeah, well, 810 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: they'd say, well, okay, well give them two more. They'd write, 811 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, so okay, let's go. 812 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: Geez divas. I mean, I guess you had some diva. 813 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, they're they're there. If Tom didn't 814 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: throw me the ball at least five times in the 815 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: first quarter, I was pitted. 816 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: Number onood song Mandy by Mary Manilo. That was a 817 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,959 Speaker 2: fun That was a fun song. It still has still 818 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: holds its own. 819 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he was, He was good around this time. 820 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune debuts The Jefferson. Jefferson's premiers are you 821 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 2: Will a Fortune Guy or Jeopardy Guy? 822 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: Neither, but the Jeffersons was written co written by Michael Moyer, 823 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: who had married with children. He wrote I Forgot What 824 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: He wrote a couple of the parts on that. He 825 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: also wrote for Laverna Shirley. 826 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: Geez and I heard Modern Family, the Modern Family people. 827 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Did Frazer Fraser, Golden Girls, Just Shoot Me. 828 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 3: A number of others Reboot Too, which I thought was 829 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 3: really good but just didn't catch on the reboot oh 830 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: a Fraser, No, the reboot the show reboot on whom. 831 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I thought that was good to Yeah, I just 832 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: had that kid from the Partner Pool and yeah, kid's funny. 833 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 3: And Johnny Knoxville was in it and he was actually 834 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: really good. 835 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that Ike was shocked when they canceled that. 836 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: Paul Allen and Bill Gates founded Microsoft out in Mountain View. 837 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: Kel it was in Mountain View, California. 838 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 1: Look, think it was yeah, up by Seattle, wasn't. 839 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: No, It's I'm from this here. 840 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm from Chilicon Valley Valley. Right. 841 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: They all went out to Stanford. Yah, I think that's 842 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: where their headquarters is. 843 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it on the lake. You had that house, 844 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: some beautiful This is saying Albuquerque, New Mexico. 845 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: Maybe Albuquerque. We were completely off. We were completely off. 846 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: Godfather to Godfather to Young Frankensign Jaws Jaws. 847 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That movie is scared. 848 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: It scared everyone. 849 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it like, yeah, all great movies. 850 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: All those that's what movies were movies. 851 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Godfather too was great with the narrow Brando, right, Yeah, 852 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: the third one lost me a little bit in the Godfather. 853 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: Do you like it. The third one wasn't as good. No, 854 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: I liked, it's just what didn't. Yeah, two was awesome. 855 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: You got de Niro, you got to see the had 856 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: some good performances in there. Yeah, but it wasn't It 857 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: wasn't as good. It wasn't as good. 858 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: What about in the sports world seventy five, seventy four 859 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions where the Pittsburgh Steelers NFL MVP was 860 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 2: Kenny Stabler, the Snake, the snake. 861 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: I met Kenny. Kenny did married with children. He was 862 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: a really cool guy. Oh, I bet he came on 863 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: the state we had. That's when I met Lawrence Taylor, 864 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Stabler. Who's Bob Smith? Bubba Smith? What is it? 865 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: Who the name? No? 866 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the name Bubbat Smith. 867 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: No, Bubba Smith. Bubba Smith. Remember Bubba? I don't Bubba Smith? 868 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: The defensive end for the Colts six seven, three point fifteen. Yeah, 869 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: I got him right here play for Michigan State. Okay, 870 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: what year? Uh, I don't know, I forget around my time. 871 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michigan State sixty four to sixty six. Was drafted 872 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 3: first overall one one oh man. He was eighteen sixty 873 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: seven draft to the Rims. 874 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: He did the show he did Married with Children. He 875 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: played the U spare attire Dixon. He's the one that 876 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: stole my trophy out of the trophy case. And we 877 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: had the one on one. Oh, I had to make no, 878 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: I had to change it to slow motion. I did this. 879 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: We had a thing where we come up against each other. 880 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: It was a goal line stand. It was a It 881 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: had been a contested call in the championship game where 882 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: I crossed the line. They called it a touchdown and 883 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: he swore I never got over. So now all these 884 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: years later, we're going to do it again. And the 885 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: imaginary goal line, just the two of us. Oh, it 886 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: was so funny. You got to google that. You gotta 887 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: watch that show. It's one of the great ones. He 888 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: and he couldn't. He hadn't done anything, I don't think. 889 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: And when we rehearsed it, he couldn't pull back. It 890 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: was like it was like getting in with an actual 891 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: grizzly bear, that's how strong he was. And finally I 892 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: went to the guys and I said, Hey, this ain't 893 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: gonna work. I said, you know, I got to work 894 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: next week. Going well, let's just go slow motion. He 895 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: and we'll film it like its slow motion, but it's 896 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna be slow motion. It turned out hilarious. Then he's 897 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: a sweet guy too. I bet he is. 898 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 3: The nineteen sixty six City Championship Polkai Panthers versus the 899 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 3: Andrew Johnson High School against Bubba Sparetire Dixon. 900 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: Four touchdowns in one game, nineteen sixty six. Baby, we 901 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: should have done that game. Who's the coolest cameo you 902 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 2: guys ever had? You've ever had in any of your shows, 903 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: any of anything? 904 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: The coolest cameo on any show I ever did? Yeah, 905 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's impossible. Impossible. We had so many 906 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: over on Modern Family. We had so many alone. I 907 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: mean I just couldn't say. I really couldn't say. Have 908 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: you ever met Bill Walton, Joe, I never met Bill 909 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 1: rip I love that I watched that wonderful, luckiest guy 910 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: in the world, Doc. Yeah, I used to. So I 911 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: like to pack ten. 912 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 2: I grew up in the Bay Area, so you know, 913 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: I'd be in Boston and when I was playing, and 914 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: it'd be eleven o'clock a night or something, and the 915 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: Pac twelve team would be playing, and Bill Wallat would 916 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 2: be man going on a'd be talking about like a 917 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: forest in northern California had nothing to do with basketball. 918 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: No, I used to when I was I don't even 919 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: know when this wasn't. I don't even know if this 920 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: actually occurred or my brain just made this happen. I 921 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: remember seeing a photo on the cover of Sports Illustrated 922 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: of Walton going up. It was either the block a shot, 923 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: or it was a rebound. I'm not sure what it was, 924 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: but he was he was up and his hand was 925 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: this far above the top of the backboard. Yeah, I 926 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: mean he was seven foot yeah. And then and then 927 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: he could still jump. Oh my god, I said, this 928 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: is you know, he would if he didn't have those 929 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: back problems and feet. Yeah, but when you get those 930 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: big guys on that shoes back, then we're in converts, right, 931 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: there's no support with might as well played barefoot. Yeah, 932 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 1: and that that that hardwood is hard. He was such 933 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: a great player. He was amamable. He could do everything. 934 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: He's kind of like Joker. 935 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 936 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 3: So Jack is texting me, He's saying, your memory is correct. 937 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 3: That was March twenty fifth, nineteen seventy four issue. 938 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: You're kidding me, Yeah, your issue? Oh my god, can 939 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: you bring it up? I mean bring it up. I 940 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: haven't seen it since then. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I'd 941 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: like to see it. 942 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: And well, Lea brings us up the Rams linebacker. 943 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: Hacks Reynolds and the Snake. He played with the Niners too, 944 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: didn't you? And Jack because we used to Jack young Blood. Yeah, 945 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: played with a broken back in the Super Bowl, played 946 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: with a broken bone. All right, where is it? There 947 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: it is? Oh? There it is? Is that it? Well 948 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 1: it's not above okay, all right, it was that one. 949 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: Well I exact Bill Walton, alright, p but you see, yes, 950 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 1: I mean that's talk about playing above the rim. Oh man. 951 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: When the A's were good, they won their third straight 952 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: World Series Oakland A's. 953 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: I remember whether they had the mustaches. Yeah, they looked 954 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 1: like the old nineteen twenty players. That was so cool. 955 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: Who was the picture that was the eighties? Something of 956 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: the eighty guy with the mustache? Oh god, from the 957 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: Battle of the Bay is it Dennis? Yeah, Boston guy 958 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: to Boston. 959 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 2: Remember we met him at a Strega one night with 960 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 2: Nicki Verano. Tony Tony Lesura or Tony Tony Tommy Tommy Lesura. 961 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommylesorta, who was mentioned in the pilot or the 962 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 3: first episode of clipped of Clips. 963 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually wanted to go to the goddamn game. You 964 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: want to have dinner with Tommy? All right? 965 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 2: Can we set the stage for this Super Bowl nine 966 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: starting with the Minnesota Vikings Gui, Yes, I can in 967 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 2: tar This was like. 968 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills before the Buffalo Bills. Yep. He was 969 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: sort of a mini not a mini, but he was 970 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: of Stoba. Sure, quarterback scrambled. I remember Foreman to Chuck Foreman. 971 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: It was a wonderful running. 972 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 3: Back to this nineteen seventy four Vikings team Pro Bowlers 973 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 3: Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, John Gilliam, Ron Yarry, Carl Eller, 974 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 3: Alan Page, Paul Krauss. 975 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: Alan Page was from Canton, Canton, Ohio. He had page one. 976 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,240 Speaker 1: In page two, his brother was page two. Oh wow, 977 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 1: wasn't he smart enough to go to college? He worked 978 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: at Canton Timkin Roller Bearing after he graduated. Isn't Warren 979 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: right really cool? Yeah? Warren is. Yeah. 980 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: We used I used to go to act one of 981 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 2: my teammates house and Warren. We used to this place 982 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: called the hot Dog Shop or something. I didn't I 983 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 2: didn't hang around Warren. Yeah, probably I was pretty much 984 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 2: in young Kngstown. Yeah, the middle spot. 985 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: Where you could die at any given moment in Youngstown. 986 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: And he never realized. I never thought it was dangerous, 987 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: Eddie di Botless. 988 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: From there, it's the midpoint from chicag I go to 989 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 2: New York for a reason. 990 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: So this team was coached by Bud Grant. They went 991 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 3: ten and four. They were coming off of twelve and 992 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 3: two season and a Super Bowl appearance where they losted 993 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: Super eight to. 994 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: The Miami Leaders. 995 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 3: This was their third Super Bowl appearance in as many 996 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 3: years and lost. They lost two of them. They also, 997 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 3: notably have never won one. This was the team of 998 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 3: the Purple People Eaters, the defensive line, Alan Page Call, 999 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 3: Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Gary Larson, Doug Sutherland, the Purple 1000 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: People Eaters. They referred to themselves as the Purple Gang. 1001 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 3: But because of the song by Sheev Woodley one a 1002 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: one off, one hit. 1003 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: One hit Wonder, and their motto was meet at the quarterback. 1004 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: Thoughts on the city of Minneapolis or the people of 1005 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: Minnesota ed this, I mean, this is this is prime 1006 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 2: Minnesota football, if you think about it. They hadn't had 1007 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 2: this kind of success since then. And then they really 1008 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,800 Speaker 2: do have a crazy fan fan base like those people 1009 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: love Minnesota football, and it's because of this generation of football. 1010 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, do you what do you remember the Minnesota 1011 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 2: Vikings this time? 1012 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh? I love the Vikings, you know, I mean they 1013 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: were they. I like the uniforms. I liked the players. 1014 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 1: They were rough, you know, rough bunch rough, very rough Vikings, 1015 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I used to follow the Vikings. I 1016 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: liked Tarkenton. He was crafty. He was very crafty, slippery. Yeah. 1017 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: My dad used to say I looked like him when 1018 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: I was. I used to play quarterback. 1019 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: I know, were you You were a right hander. I 1020 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: was a right hander. 1021 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was a smaller guy that would run 1022 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: around and make these crazy plays. And my dad get 1023 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 2: yell little Tarkenton in Yeah, yeah, yellow tark He. 1024 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: Was a bit of a modern quarterback too in this era. 1025 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: Early he would have lit it up. Now. 1026 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably would have played eight more years. Can't 1027 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: hit him. 1028 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, here's the Steelers. 1029 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 3: It just picked up these Steelers nineteen seventy four Steelers 1030 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers, Ray Gariela, my pounce is bad me and 1031 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 3: Joe Green, Elsie Greenwood, Jack Ham, Frank o'harris, Andy Russell, 1032 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 3: a lot of Hall of famers on his team, fourteen 1033 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 3: Hall of famers. 1034 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: After them, right, Yeah, he was back up Joe Gilliam. 1035 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: There's a kid who could have been a great, great, 1036 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: great player. What happened? Drugs, alcohol, and and I think 1037 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: he didn't get He beat up Bradshaw. Yeah, he beat 1038 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: up Bradshaw. Bradshaw second year, Gilliam was starting. 1039 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 3: So this season was riddled with quarterback controversy. Three starting quarterbacks. 1040 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 3: Joe Gilliam threw Week six, they were four to one 1041 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 3: and one, then Terry Bradshaw, then Terry you pronounced him 1042 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 3: hand ready, Kerry Henriddy, and then back to Teddy Bradshaw, 1043 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 3: who then started this game. Yes, kind of had to clutch. 1044 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: Knowle was just trying to teach him a lesson, like, 1045 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: you know, get with it. You're he wasn't happy up there. 1046 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: You know he was a Southern kid. Yeah, I just 1047 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: thought it. Well, Ham was great. Lambert Ham came right 1048 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,919 Speaker 1: after I did. Was there Jack Lambert Kent State and 1049 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: Lambert Lambert can stay in state. So this year a 1050 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a psych go right, a little bit. 1051 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, The big takeaway on this team is They had 1052 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 3: an incredible draft and incredible rookie class, so Lynn Swan, 1053 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 3: Jack Lambert, John Star with Mike Webster and then they 1054 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 3: signed Donnie Schell. 1055 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: All five are in the Hall. 1056 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,959 Speaker 3: Of Fame now came into that team this year kicked 1057 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 3: off the Steelers. 1058 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: Dynas No. Blunt was great, Mel Blunt, Hall. 1059 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 3: Of famers on this team are just incredible, Mel Blunt, 1060 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw, Joe Green, Jack Caam Franco, Harris, Jack Lambert, 1061 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 3: Chuck Noll, Bull nun Art, Rudy Dan, Rudy, Donnischell, John 1062 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 3: star Worth, Lind Swan, and Mike Webster. 1063 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were loaded. Mike Webster was a monster. Ernie 1064 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: Holmes had a problem. 1065 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 2: With the now ed when you got there in sixty nine, right, 1066 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: sixty eight, sixty nine, sixty nine, Chuck Nole's first year. 1067 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: Could you feel something special was bruin to where they 1068 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 2: got five years later? 1069 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: No, because I was just like in shock that I 1070 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: was even there. Yeah, walking around. I remember my dad 1071 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: dropped me off and it was, you know, same since 1072 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: college and I got there and the Vets weren't really 1073 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: there yet. There were some that were there for special reasons, 1074 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, they had injuries working on things, and so 1075 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: I was there with all the rookies. But uh, you know, 1076 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: we were getting the rooms and everything, and my father 1077 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: was and my father was a tough guy, and he 1078 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 1: was very quiet. He was always quiet, but he was 1079 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: very quiet that day. And so he said, well, you 1080 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: better get going dad, you know. He said, yeah, let's go. 1081 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: And I walked him out to the car and he 1082 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: opened the door and he looked around and he said, 1083 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: are you sure you want to do this? And I wasn't. 1084 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought maybe not. I said, oh yeah, 1085 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: hell yeah, you said, because if you don't, we'll grab 1086 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: your bag getting let's get that all out of here. 1087 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: I said, no, no, go go. Yeah, you know, but 1088 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: he was worried just watching these guys walking around. You know. 1089 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 2: That's what dads do. Yeah, they worry. 1090 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, when we had Terry on he he talked a 1091 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 3: little bit about how Chuck Noll was really early in 1092 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 3: trying to get plays or some different pockets of the 1093 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 3: country to try to get the best athletes to really 1094 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 3: kind of create a little bit more of a integrated locker. 1095 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: Rooms round too. 1096 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, at that time I think even said Chuck, no 1097 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 3: guns like Patot's license, we could fly to these like 1098 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 3: small colleges all. 1099 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: Across the country. He was a sophisticated guy. And uh, 1100 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean look at the look at that, Look at 1101 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: that those guys. There were so many great players on 1102 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: those how mean was mean? Jeal Green? Mean as hell? 1103 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 1: You know that's the other thing they go, Oh, that's 1104 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: just a nickname. It's it's because he's not mean. Oh no, 1105 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's a gun. He was great off the field. 1106 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: He was a sweet guy in a real life. On 1107 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: the field, he was brutal. I mean, you know he 1108 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: used to punch guys. 1109 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah did you know that? Oh yeah, I seen the highlights. 1110 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: No, he'd hit guys in the stomach with a fist. 1111 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: He had a great uppercut to the solar plexus. Boom. 1112 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: He nailed these guys. They drop like a sack. I mean, 1113 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: he was brutal. He didn't lift weights, you know, he 1114 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: was what we used to call cock strong. Yeah, just 1115 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: a normal naturally that was a term. Yeah. Uh. Never 1116 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: never touched the weight, but fast. He was a great player. 1117 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 2: One of the all time. 1118 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: Anybody this guy could. 1119 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: In this game foreshadowing. He had a fumble recovery and 1120 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 3: an interception. 1121 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a tremendous player. He was me, Me 1122 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: and Joe. The best commercial ever made, right, that coke 1123 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: commercial we just ever made. 1124 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 3: We just found out because one of Jules's old coaches, 1125 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: Dante Scarnacio, was acted in a like made for TV 1126 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: movie based off of that commercial. 1127 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, yeah, yeah remember that. 1128 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: That's right, Dante's Scarnakio. Now Terry did uh all. 1129 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: Kinds of cameos, right, Harry did a married with children, 1130 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: and he did a Modern Family. You know, I'll tell 1131 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: you a funny thing. We had lunch when he was 1132 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: doing the Modern Family. Now we knew each other, and uh, 1133 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: we were having lunch and it was a it was 1134 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: a courtroom scene where he had courtroom duty and I didn't. 1135 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: I was trying to get out until I saw it 1136 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: was him. It was my idol, you know, Terry Bradshaw. 1137 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: So we're having lunch and he's looking at me. He says, 1138 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: when did you play? And I told him when I 1139 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 1: was trying out, you know, and he said yeah, oh yeah, 1140 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: he said, well I played twelve years. He said, yeah, 1141 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: you look you're younger. You're older than me, ain't you. 1142 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm a year older than you. You 1143 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: look better than I do. I said, I didn't play 1144 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: twelve years in the NFL when they didn't protect quarterbacks. 1145 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: He had some bad injuries. He said, Man, you're right, 1146 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: he said should I said, how many concussions you have? 1147 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: He said, shit, I couldn't count. I couldn't count them all. 1148 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: I said, well that's why you and he had detached bicep. 1149 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a bad back to everything. 1150 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't listen. A series of injuries and 1151 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: he's but he's he's happy, he's got a good life. 1152 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Terry helped build Fox Sports started with the Yeah he 1153 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: was doing the pregame him Howie a lot like Walton, 1154 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: you know that that just that free spirit kind of 1155 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: say whatever. Terry's the best man. He's authentically him, he 1156 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: really is. So I sang in the grand Old Opry, 1157 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I said, oh I heard that. He said, I wan't 1158 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: any good? But what I sang? And that? 1159 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Did he tell you that they rolled all his fans 1160 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 2: there or something? He always yeah, he tells me, I've 1161 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 2: heard these stories. 1162 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Now I know. I know he's a piece of word. 1163 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh he's so funny. He lives in Oklahoma. Now you know, 1164 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: he's got horses. Yeah, he big horse guy. He said 1165 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: he finally found the right woman. You know, he's probably 1166 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: on his third or fourth. Yeah. 1167 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Now who's on your Steelers Mount Rushmore though? 1168 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, any one of any number of these guys got 1169 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: four h Green Joe Green Well Otey, who's one of 1170 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: my favorite, but he's not on here. He must have 1171 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: come later. Is that that Samoan kid? You know that? 1172 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: That kid? My god, he was one of my favorite players. 1173 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, just the way he played defense, That kid 1174 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: was right. I mean, did you play against him, did 1175 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you feel that he was that good? Or was he 1176 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: fading by then or no? He was, he was still 1177 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:28,479 Speaker 1: that good. 1178 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 2: What made him so good was he didn't necessarily hold 1179 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 2: the responsibility he was supposed to hold. So, like if 1180 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: you're doing a pre snap read on something and safety 1181 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 2: comes here, and then you do a post snap and 1182 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 2: he's supposed to be going this way, Troy would be 1183 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 2: in a completely different area kicking a ball where you're 1184 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 2: not accounting for that guy to go there because he's 1185 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 2: not supposed to be there right right, So he had 1186 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: an instinct that was second to none. Come right over 1187 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 2: the line, some right over and he would do that uncalled, 1188 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 2: like that wasn't the call play. 1189 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't teach that stuff. You can't. 1190 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 2: And a lot of guys try to do that, but 1191 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 2: they when you do that, you leave yourself your team. 1192 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Vulnerable getting dashed. 1193 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Yea, you know what I mean A lot yeah those 1194 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: but he never really I mean, he'd have his times, 1195 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 2: but he made a lot more plays. 1196 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: He got away with it a lot away with it 1197 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 3: a lot more. My favorite thing about Troy is that 1198 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 3: while he played during the two thousands with the Steelers, 1199 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 3: he had the embodiment of this seventy Steelers defense, Like 1200 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 3: he could have played on those teams and fit right in. 1201 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. He was also a very gentleman. 1202 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 2: When you compete against him, he'd say a prayer before 1203 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 2: every play. 1204 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 1: He'd like, you, all, those Hawaiians are very religious. Yeah, 1205 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, those missionaries did a job on those. But look, Lambert, 1206 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: very smart player. He was only about two ten. Yeah, 1207 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: he was small, and he was six four or sixty 1208 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: three years tall, and he had them very big shoulder 1209 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: pads on right. He looked like fierce and no teeth. 1210 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: But he was basically just a real smart player. Yeah, 1211 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, he'd just bring you down. Not a Budkuss 1212 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Budcus would kill you. Yeah, and uh we. 1213 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Got me and Joe Troy in Lambert. 1214 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't I wouldn't put Lambert in the Okay, So, 1215 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: uh Andy Russell. I loved Andy Russell. 1216 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 4: You know. 1217 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Andy Russell was one of the smartest linebackers I ever 1218 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: saw play the game. A lot like Joe Schmidt. Remember 1219 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Schmid for the Lions. You don't remember Schmid. Smidt was 1220 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: one of the all time great middle linebackers. And not 1221 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that big, but Russell when he played the weak side. 1222 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: He played on the weak side, you know, opposite the 1223 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 1: tight end, and he would he'd stand straight up in 1224 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: the air before the snap. He'd be looking around. He'd say, 1225 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, why out watch him. He's coming over there. 1226 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: And he'd be talking and he would be like, not 1227 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: in a football you think he's not ready to play football. 1228 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Like he looked like a ref and that ball be 1229 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 1: snap man and he was on it. You know. He 1230 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: was great for me. Again, not that big. He was 1231 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: a full back at Missouri. Yeah he was. He was 1232 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: like you he was basically a running back and uh 1233 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: he was. He was a great player. Played a lot 1234 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: of years. Didn't he He was the captain, wasn't he? 1235 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: He look Andy Russell. 1236 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 3: I have a quote from Andy Russell which is he 1237 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 3: would tell Yeah, he would tell Terry Bratch on the offense, 1238 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 3: just hold him. 1239 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: We'll get the points else. Greenwood, Now he was a 1240 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: rookie when I was a rookie Greenwood, and I would 1241 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: have bet my life that they would have cut him 1242 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: because he played like he was on roller skates. He 1243 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: was six seven and he was long and thin. Yeah, 1244 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my god, he looks like a 1245 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: basketball player. You know, I didn't think. But you know, 1246 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: you know you're wrong so much. I mean, they they 1247 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: worked with him. He had a he had potential. 1248 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 2: When you get those long arms, though. 1249 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he finally became a well, as you know, 1250 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: he became a great player. 1251 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 2: Well, you get long arms, you get leverage, strength, and 1252 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 2: you keep the guy away from you. Yeah, then you 1253 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 2: can two get like the Stork. 1254 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: Yes, remember the stork from the Raiders, the outside linebacker, 1255 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 1: the mad Stork. What was his name? I don't know 1256 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: his name, but I remember yet, Oh my god, just 1257 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: go mad Stork. He's the probably Hendrix. Hendrix, I will 1258 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: say now with no problem one of the greatest linebackers 1259 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: ever ever. They could never run on him. They could never. 1260 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: And there was another guy too that played for the 1261 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, number sixty four, and I don't remember 1262 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: his name. He played for years outside linebacker two forty 1263 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: sixty three, six y four brutal, Yeah and great. What 1264 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 1: was his same number? Sixty four, San Francis. 1265 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 3: Wayne Wilcox, Yes, Willcox, Wilcox Man, Dave Wilcox, Dave Wilcox. 1266 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 3: That guy could play draft in nineteen sixty four. 1267 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Sixty four probably played to seventy five seventy four stand 1268 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 1: two teams first with his hands on his hips and 1269 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: his legs crossed standing. You know that. You know that 1270 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: when you're tired. Yeah, he just stand like this. That's 1271 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: a tired look. 1272 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 3: Well, let me wrap up the Steelers team. So they 1273 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 3: went ten to three and one. Was the first tie 1274 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 3: ever or overtime. 1275 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: To ten record. Yeah, yeah, that was the record. 1276 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 3: And also notably, just got to say it, this was 1277 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 3: the steel Curtain defense. Notably me and Joe green Elsie 1278 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 3: Greenwood the Torch Game. Dwight White and Dwight White in 1279 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 3: this game got food poisoning, lost twenty pounds. 1280 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: It was going to be whether he was going to 1281 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: play or not. He ended up playing in this game. 1282 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,439 Speaker 1: Remind me to tell you a funny story about frank 1283 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: O Harris and me. When Sophia Viagara got married, the 1284 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: wedding was at the It's Florida. Yeah, what's that hotel. 1285 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: It's beautiful down in West Palm Beach. It's I don't 1286 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: know West Palm Beach here. I don't either, So I 1287 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: was there when most of the cast went down, of course. 1288 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: So uh so anyway, I'm at the reception and uh, 1289 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm standing with some of the cast and this guy 1290 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: comes up to me and he says, uh, mister o Neil. 1291 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to bother you, but you know, I 1292 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: work for a man who's your biggest fan. And I said, okay, 1293 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: tell him. I said hi. He said, well, he's he's here. 1294 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, if he's here, bring him over. Where 1295 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: is it. He said, he's over there by the fountain. 1296 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I looked and I said that's frank O Harris. He 1297 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: said yes. I looked, and I went so literally like this, 1298 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, came over. I said, how are you doing? 1299 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Almost I'm so happy. I can't I don't know what 1300 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to say. I said, wait a minute, you came the 1301 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: year after me, when you were when you were at 1302 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Penn State. Yeah, I said, you know, I was a 1303 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: rookie with the Steelers. He said, I know all about it. 1304 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: I said, you do you know I got cut He 1305 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: said yeah. I said, and uh, you won four Super Bowls? Yeah, 1306 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: maculate reception. Yes, and I'm your idol. What's wrong with this? 1307 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,799 Speaker 3: Well that's a great segue because in this game, Franco 1308 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 3: Harris was the Super Bowl MVP. 1309 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Rush. 1310 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 3: This game thirty four attempts, eight yards, one touchdown, also 1311 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 3: two fumbles one lost, but everyone was fumbling this game. 1312 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 2: It's freezing. This is the coldest game on record at 1313 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 2: the time, so it's to be in the super Dome. 1314 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 2: They didn't finish it and go to Tulane. 1315 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1316 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 3: The lead up of this game is the Steelers beat 1317 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 3: Buffalo and Oakland to get to the Super Bowl. 1318 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: The Vikings beat Saint. 1319 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,680 Speaker 3: Louis aided by three turners in a missfield goal, then 1320 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 3: they beat Los Angeles on a goal line stand to 1321 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 3: win at the end of the game. This was billed 1322 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 3: as like two great defenses, Steel Curtain versus the Purple People, eatersly, oh, 1323 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 3: in terms of the defensive line in the fens fencing, 1324 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 3: and I mean. 1325 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Vikings wanted to do what the Steelers did. 1326 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 3: And the Vikings were just coming off they were searching 1327 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 3: for their first super Bowl title. They had just lost 1328 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 3: super Bowl four, and they had just lost the previous 1329 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 3: year super Bowl eight against the Dolphins. And you mentioned, yes, 1330 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 3: this is the second coldest super Bowl ever with forty 1331 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 3: six degrees. And the reason that is is because it 1332 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 3: was supposed to be at the super Dome, but it 1333 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 3: wasn't finished yet, so they moved the game to nearby 1334 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 3: Tulane where there was all kinds of weather and rain, 1335 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 3: and so they moved it on the slick turf, and 1336 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 3: so this game was very sloppy. 1337 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Franco was a great running back. You know, he was 1338 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 1: a load. Oh he was huge, he was big. 1339 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1340 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: Man, when he turned up, you know, train. 1341 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 2: You gotta get him, You gotta get him running side. 1342 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: They started, Oh yeah, yeah, you got to get him legs. Man. 1343 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: It was like this guy can he can? He can 1344 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: bring it. Now. 1345 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were when you watched this game? 1346 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: No? No, I mean I watched it for sure. What 1347 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I was probably in some bar Youngstown, Youngstown. You're fresh 1348 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: out here, you're about five years out you you haven't 1349 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: yeah Hollywood yet. I was like twenty eight. I was 1350 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: in Youngstown. Yeah. I didn't go to New York till 1351 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: thirty one. I was thirty one, thirty one. I mean, 1352 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: the odds of me making it when I got to 1353 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: New York were astronomical. Yeah, I still can't even believe it. 1354 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: What were they? You couldn't even make odds that high? 1355 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh you got It's like winning lotto, you know what 1356 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean? 1357 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 3: So this was this was a sloppy game, sloppy weather specialties. 1358 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 1: It looks like an ego. You could do it. We're gonna, 1359 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna write a movie for you to 1360 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: be Chuck Jeels, who played Terry. 1361 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 2: I'll be Terry Bradshaw Terry. 1362 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: No, I can't play, I'll get Terry. You played Chuck 1363 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: blond To You know Chuck was a I was a 1364 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: messenger guard for the Browns. Yeah, did you know that? 1365 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: I didn't played for Paul Brown. He was an underside guard. 1366 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: He was probably maybe he was two twenty, I don't know, 1367 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe not, but he used to run the plays in 1368 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 1: and out for Paul Brown Cleveland. 1369 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 2: So this is a defensive battle. Now do you when 1370 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 2: you watch these games back in those days where you 1371 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 2: entertained to see defenses do well like this. 1372 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 1: I love the defensive games, which they don't want to 1373 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 1: see anymore. They don't want to see that. And to 1374 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: me it was well because I was a defensive player. 1375 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: I love the defense. I love the defensive guys. 1376 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 2: And it gets a bad rap because we will get 1377 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 2: into scoring the game and a lot of people associate 1378 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,760 Speaker 2: a bad game with a good defensive game. 1379 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: That's a bad game. To that bad game, it is 1380 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 1: a bad game. But it's like it's like the UFC. Yeah, 1381 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Dana White, he wants nothing but knockouts. If you go 1382 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: on the ground, you don't get the bonus. Yea, even 1383 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: if you if you tap the guy out from the ground. 1384 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: Dana White's mad. He sometimes he'll walk out of a 1385 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: fight and the guy on the ground, you know, ready 1386 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: to I mean, it's just how it's gone because you know, 1387 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: he knows what puts asses in seats, and it's blood 1388 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and guys getting knocked out, Yeah, kicked to the face 1389 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 1: what I call stupid fighting. Yeah, it's become stupid fighting. 1390 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, you know, I went to 1391 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: the Gracis for thirty years. You know, the jiu jitsu. 1392 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: I got a black belt from the old man. But 1393 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 1: if you if you take a fight, a lot of 1394 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: times you'll see two wrestlers who really can't box, but 1395 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: they like to box because they just learned it. So 1396 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: they get in there against each other and they think, oh, 1397 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little better than this one at boxing, 1398 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: and they box. Well, who wants to see that fight? 1399 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Two guys that really don't know how But they won't 1400 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: put those guys on the ground and start from there. 1401 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: But if you're on the ground too long, they stand 1402 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: you up. Yeah, so when they stand a ground fighter up, 1403 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: you're at the disadvantage right away. And that's what that's 1404 01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:59,639 Speaker 1: all about. 1405 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Now, Well, I mean, you've got to pick your battles 1406 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 2: and you got to use your strengths and try to yea. 1407 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 2: That's why it's an awesome sport to watch right now, 1408 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: because you can be a shitty boxer but still go 1409 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: out and get down. 1410 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 1: Now. The thing, now, are those calf kicks. 1411 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,759 Speaker 2: They're breaking legs. 1412 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 3: How did you get into mixed martial arts? How did 1413 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 3: you get into doing the mixed martial arts? 1414 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: I got in there with well, it's not martial arts. 1415 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I got in with the jiu jitsu with from John Millius. 1416 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember a guy named John Millius? Nobody he wrote? 1417 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: He wrote Apocalypse Now, okay, he wrote Big Wednesday, which 1418 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 1: is a classic surfing film. Yeah, you'll see. Anyway he was. 1419 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 1: He was taking jiu jitsu in Torrents with the Gracie family. 1420 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 1: They're Brazilians and I knew him from the lot and 1421 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 1: he and we used to get the fights and we'd 1422 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: all go and watch the fights and stuff, pay per 1423 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: view stuff. He was telling me about these Gracy guys 1424 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 1: and the main the head Gracie was a guy named 1425 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Hickson Hicks. On Gracie, you wouldn't want to fight, it'sen Gracie. 1426 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 1: And I think his record was somebody like four hundred 1427 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: and oh buddy, and that's exaggeration. But anyway, he was 1428 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: trying to get me to go down there and take 1429 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: this jiu jitsu and I said that the guys that 1430 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: wear the pajamas and yeah. He said, yeah, but this 1431 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 1: is a whole other thing. And I said that, John, 1432 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: You know, so two years of this. He's badgering me. 1433 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: And so one day I went down. I said, I'll 1434 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 1: meet you there. He said, no, I want to drive 1435 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: you down. I said no, no, I'll meet you there 1436 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: because I wanted to, you know, exit. So I go 1437 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: in and he's in there with Horry and Gracie, who 1438 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 1: was the oldest brother, and they were rolling around, you know, 1439 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: on a mat. I'm looking in the window and I'm 1440 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: bringing what are they doing? You know? So afterwards they 1441 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: come out and I meet Horry and Gracie. He's the 1442 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: oldest brother. He runs the show, and all, nice to 1443 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: meet you. It's good to see you. I love love things. 1444 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: John says, good things. And I said, well, the place 1445 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: is very clean, clean you could eat off the floor literally, 1446 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 1: And he said, okay, now you get to have a 1447 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: free lesson with me. I want to show you. I 1448 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 1: said no, no, no, no, no, I said, you know, I 1449 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: got to get back and I'm in Torrance right. I said, 1450 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: it's the rush hour. I don't have to get a 1451 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: motel out here. You know. He come on, please your 1452 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 1: air you only hear one time to fifteen minutes, so 1453 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 1: get it a ghee. So you know, the thing the 1454 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: pajamas so I go in, I put it on, I 1455 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: come back out. He says, Okay, this is going to 1456 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: be quick. I know you're in a hurry. Lay down 1457 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 1: on your back, please, And we were in the mat. 1458 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I lay down. He said, I'm going to kneel on 1459 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: top of you, and then we tell you this is 1460 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: the two part tests, very quick. I mean, pretend you 1461 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 1: come out of your bedroom at night and you hear 1462 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 1: a noise and your wife is afraid, and there's a 1463 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: guy in there right he maybe open the door and 1464 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: knocks you down and jump on top of you. Your 1465 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: children in the other room. You think you can get 1466 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: me off of you if your life depends on it. Now, 1467 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: this guy is Buck seventy. Yeah, I'm at that time, 1468 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 1: like two forty. You know, this is thirty some years ago. 1469 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: I said, Man, if my life depends on I think 1470 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I could get you off. I don't know after that, 1471 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: because I knew these guys, said you know these reputations. 1472 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 1: But so that's it, that's all you have to do. 1473 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: I said, I'm laying like this, you know, I said, 1474 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: we'll win. He said, anytime you want. Now, I don't 1475 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: feel his weight on me. He's kneeling, but his the 1476 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 1: weights on his knees, and I said, all right, anytime. 1477 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: He says, anytime you want to just go, just get 1478 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: me off. So I think I like bucked up, you know, 1479 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,600 Speaker 1: and you know, pushed it. Twenty seconds later, you know, 1480 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 1: he's still on top of me. I can't get him off. 1481 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, says, okay, sit up, breathe, breathe, breathe. It's okay, okay, 1482 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: now this is the last part. I lay down, you 1483 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 1: sit on top of me. It's okay now. I said, no, 1484 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I can't. He said, can you hold me down? Four seconds? 1485 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, four seconds? I said, yeah, 1486 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: four seconds. What am I look like to you? You know? 1487 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: He said, that's all you have to do, John, you 1488 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 1: count one, two, three, four like that. I said, that's 1489 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: fast for said's not even four seconds. Okay. When I 1490 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 1: said get it hold of me, so I grab him, 1491 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: he said, come on like a man, you know, I mean, 1492 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 1: there's cell of their fish. So I hold him. I'm 1493 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: squeezing him. He goes you ready, I said, yeah, boom, 1494 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: he's on top of me. I'm looking up at him. 1495 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: I said, how did you do that? He said, this 1496 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: is what we do. I said, I got to lend this. 1497 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: He said, no, he come on, that's not the point. 1498 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to show you what we do. We 1499 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 1: have some actors come, they do this and that, they 1500 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: go home, they do movies. You know, they don't come back. 1501 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: I said, when can I come back? Come back to more? 1502 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 1: You want to? I said, the time. Give me the time, Torrance, 1503 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 1: I'll be here. Sixteen years later, I got the black belt. 1504 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 1: Cheez wow, I took it was a lot of humble pie, man, 1505 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 1: Believe me. 1506 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 2: I recently got into combat. I've been boxing a bunch. 1507 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,800 Speaker 1: You're boxing. Yeah, I used to box as a kid 1508 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: in Youngstown. Yeah, I bet it's it's it's it's a 1509 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: it's a whole other deal. It's a whole other deal. 1510 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,600 Speaker 2: But it's a great way in outlet for you to 1511 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 2: compete with yourself. 1512 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: Are you smarring not smar far. Don't spark got too 1513 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 1: many head things. Yeah, no, don't spark at all. 1514 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 2: But I'm doing all the movement, the bag work, and 1515 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,720 Speaker 2: it's been fun. It is hurts my body though, I 1516 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 2: see all my deficiencies and from my injuries, and because 1517 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of unnecessary there's 1518 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 2: a lot of crazy torque on the body when you're 1519 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 2: doing these things. 1520 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Well, boxing is the in my opinion. Now, you know, 1521 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm opinion about this because I grew up with boxing 1522 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: in Youngstown and you know Raymond's. I mean, there's a 1523 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of the great fighters that came out of Youngstown, 1524 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: and you know, there's a whole history of that. But 1525 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 1: boxing is the only sport that's gone backwards. I mean 1526 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: it's gone backwards. In the thirties and forties, the fighters 1527 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 1: were the best, and even even further back. And people 1528 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 1: will say, no, no, you're wrong. You know, look how 1529 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: big they are, the heavyweights. I said, they can't fight 1530 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: for shit. They don't know anything about fighting. They don't know. 1531 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 1: And those old time guys, look, you're taking it. I'll 1532 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: give you one example. I don't want to go on 1533 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 1: to We're going to talk about boxing. Sugar Ray Robinson 1534 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 1: in his prime. Say he's twenty six years old, in 1535 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: his prime, fights Bernard Hopkins, the executioner. He's going in 1536 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Bernard Bernard. When he was 1537 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 1: twenty six, his record would have been like twenty nine 1538 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: and one or two with eighteen nineteen knockouts. Robinson's record 1539 01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: same age would have been ninety one and one with 1540 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: seventy four knockouts. Yeah, fighting the best fighters that ever 1541 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: pore clubs on. Now, who's gonna win that fight? Like 1542 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 1: fighting a girl? 1543 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so that's such a crazy sport though, 1544 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,919 Speaker 2: because the politics in it now. 1545 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Well it was always oh you know what I mean. 1546 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 2: So you're never getting like you never see the best 1547 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,719 Speaker 2: fighters fight the best fighters in prime. 1548 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,600 Speaker 1: But in those days you saw it a lot more often. Yeah, 1549 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,840 Speaker 1: because they almost had to fight each other. And those 1550 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 1: guys way back they were better trainers, there were I mean, 1551 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: it was just a whole other deal. Everybody was fighting. Yeah, 1552 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,879 Speaker 1: and today nobody's fighting. Ad they fight once a year, yeah, 1553 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: because they're making the money, but any money. Yeah, there's 1554 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 1: no no comparison between the old guys. All you have 1555 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,799 Speaker 1: to do is google some of those fights and watch them. 1556 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 3: Now, well, this year, before I wrap up this game, 1557 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 3: this year was the year of the thriller in Manila 1558 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 3: was in nineteen seventy four, nine seventy five round this 1559 01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 3: game Fraser Ali three. But to wrap up this game, 1560 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 3: or to kind of like put a point to it, scoreless. 1561 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 3: First quarter, Pittsburgh mister field goal. 1562 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:06,680 Speaker 1: There was a botch snap on another field goal. 1563 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 3: At halftime yep, there was a that was the first 1564 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 3: safety in Super Bowl history, interception on like the inside 1565 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,479 Speaker 3: the five, and then back and forth, so two oh 1566 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 3: and halftime. The third quarter, Pittsburgh extended their lead with 1567 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,640 Speaker 3: a touchdown from Franco Harris. Minnesota fumbled the halftime the 1568 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 3: kickoff at halftime, which was actually a Steelers He slipped 1569 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 3: the kicker on the kickoff at the halftime and then 1570 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 3: kind of squibbed it and then bounced off the Vikings 1571 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 3: guy and then the Steelers recovery. That's kind of the 1572 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 3: representative of this game. And then fourth quarter there was 1573 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 3: a block punt uh and then returned for a touchdown 1574 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 3: or recovered in the end zone for a touchdown, and then. 1575 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 1: The Vikings right, yes, the Vikings got it was a drive. 1576 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: The last minute. 1577 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 3: There was a six minute drive eleven play ending with 1578 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 3: a Larry Brown touchdown that really kind of in many 1579 01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 3: ways is a summation of Terry Bradshaw's career. Art's a 1580 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 3: little bit sloppy back and forth, you don't know, but 1581 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,639 Speaker 3: when push comes to SUV, when it's crunch time. Who 1582 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 3: do you want the ball in the hand A little 1583 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 3: bit the original? Yeah, and then so the Steelers won 1584 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 3: the game sixteen to six. One thing I need to 1585 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 3: mention is that this steel Curtain team defense during this 1586 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 3: game allowed less than one yard per carry and allowed 1587 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 3: no offensive scores. 1588 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: Less than one yard per carry. That's a joke. That's crazy. 1589 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,679 Speaker 1: That's crazy. And with fran running around back there right. 1590 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 2: With what he only had one hundred two yards passes? Yeah, 1591 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 2: three three interceptions. 1592 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 3: Interceptions by mel Blunt, me and Joe Green and then 1593 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 3: that other cornerback who got called late man. 1594 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 1: What's the aftermath of this? 1595 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Franco Harris was MVP. 1596 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Awesome little story you had there. First super Bowl? Ye, 1597 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Steelers first super Bowl. This is the kickoff. Unbelievable. 1598 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 3: They would go on to win next year nineteen seventy 1599 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 3: five Super Bowl back to back, and then in seventy 1600 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 3: eight and seventy nine. Yeah, Chuck Noll became the youngest 1601 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 3: head coach to win a Super Bowl at the time, 1602 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 3: forty two. 1603 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 2: That was what was uh wow, FAA was thirty four, yeah, thirty. 1604 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Six, So Nole was only forty two then, So when 1605 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 1: I was a rookie. He was like thirty six or seven. Yeah. 1606 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 3: Mcvade was thirty six when he won the Super Bowl. 1607 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 1: Became the youngest ever thirty six. Yeah. 1608 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 3: And then so this would be the third Viking Super 1609 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 3: Bowl loss. They would then lose again in Super Bowl eleven. 1610 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 3: So they went to four out of the first eleven 1611 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 3: super Bowls and didn't win a single one. 1612 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully Kevin O'Connell get him going. 1613 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 1: J McCarthy. That it's Jenny McCarthy, right, yeah, yeah, see 1614 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 1: nol see that. See how he looked, and he looked 1615 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: like kind of like a twenty nose. Yeah, twenty nos 1616 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: Was that a movie they were doing. 1617 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the That was the Ryan Reynolds one. 1618 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,919 Speaker 1: I just met her like at the last SAG Awards, 1619 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: the first time I never met her. 1620 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 2: I used to like her movie Fright Green Tomatoes. 1621 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kathy Beats. She's good. She's good. 1622 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 2: She had a couple of scary movies too. 1623 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 1: You're a Kid, Oh my god, the one where she 1624 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 1: was chopping up. Yeah, conn, I was like a little 1625 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 1: kid when that came out. I was like terrified of her. 1626 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 2: It's failure to launch, Yeah, failure to lunch Now What 1627 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 2: are this? What are these Steelers of rank in the 1628 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 2: greatest dynasties in history? They got to be top three. 1629 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 2: They're the first of four, they're the first of six. 1630 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 2: I mean, this was the first team. 1631 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: To win these Hall of Famers. It's gotta be. They've 1632 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: got to be up there, right, I mean, I can't. 1633 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team? 1634 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,640 Speaker 3: We're a little biased here and we probably. 1635 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 1: You know, that's it. That's the record. 1636 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,439 Speaker 2: It's not four touchdowns in sixty six, but you. 1637 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Know six got to be, you guys, it has no 1638 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, these Chiefs are looking damn good. They gotta 1639 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 1: slow him down. 1640 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if they went again, they go three p. 1641 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: You see where McCaffrey just signed for two for nineteen 1642 01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,599 Speaker 1: a little extension. Hey, that kid is some athlete, doesn't 1643 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 1: he he is? I mean, he's not much bigger than you, 1644 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,719 Speaker 1: is he? Probably when we were playing, we're very similar. 1645 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I was probably about five pounds heavier. Yeah, you know, 1646 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 1: a little lighter right now, but he'd run the forty. 1647 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,719 Speaker 2: I was like a four to four eight guy fast, 1648 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: But my fat I was the quickest five to ten 1649 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:32,679 Speaker 2: five shuttle. 1650 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Well that means that's more. 1651 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Change the direction. Well, depends. Everyone's got a strength. There's 1652 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 2: long speed, there's short speed. Yeah, everyone's got a superpower. 1653 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah at that level. 1654 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no. But Caffrey, I mean his versatility is insane. 1655 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, his well, his dad was a great receiver. 1656 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,799 Speaker 2: And McCaffrey used to cut out the toes. Yeah, remember 1657 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 2: because he liked he liked smaller, cleap. But I found 1658 01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 2: out he told I hung out with them at a 1659 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 2: training camp. He said he did it because they was 1660 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 2: like the first to cut out your You had to 1661 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:06,679 Speaker 2: x out when you have pressure points. 1662 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: So he was the first to do that. Well, you 1663 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 1: know when I used to say when I was when 1664 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: I was playing football, I used to say, what are 1665 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 1: we doing with these giant shoulder pads? What are we 1666 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 1: doing with these goddamn hip hip girdles? Why are we 1667 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 1: wearing this shit? It's slowing us down. You can't run 1668 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 1: us fast, and you know you didn't need it. Now 1669 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 1: they're not doing that. I used to wear the smallest pads. 1670 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I could less surface area. You guess, especially as defensive lineman. 1671 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 1: You get skinny on a guy, Yeah, go through the crack, 1672 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: go through the scene, split the whole, split it so 1673 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 1: a little on the legacy of this game. 1674 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 3: So I mentioned before there's twenty one total Hall of Famers, 1675 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 3: forty from the Steelers which I listed earlier, seven from 1676 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:53,799 Speaker 3: the Vikings, Carl Eller, Bud Grant, Paul Krause, Alan Page, 1677 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 3: Fran Tarkenton, Mick Tinglehoff, and ron Yerry. After the game, 1678 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,759 Speaker 3: Bud Grant quoted was saying, there were three bad teams 1679 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 3: out there. 1680 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: US Pittsburgh and the officials we talked about because it 1681 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 1: was a sloppy game. Sloppy yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1682 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 3: So due to this game, NFL put in a rule 1683 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,840 Speaker 3: where stadiums can't get the Super Bowl on their first year. 1684 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: So what was that? 1685 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 3: Because this game was moved from the super Dome, which 1686 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 3: wasn't finished, to Tulane Stadium, the NFL put in a 1687 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 3: rule that stadiums cannot get the Super Bowl on. 1688 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Their very first year. They have to exist for a year. 1689 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,920 Speaker 3: And something I would like to ask is, because this 1690 01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 3: is the Purple People Eaters versus the Steel Curtain, a 1691 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 3: couple of all time unit nicknames. What are some of 1692 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 3: your favorite unit nicknames in NFL history. I've got a 1693 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 3: few here, but I'd love to hear what you guys think. 1694 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: Legion of Boom, Legion of Boom, I don't even know. 1695 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: If I don't even know. 1696 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 3: Greatest show on turf. 1697 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 1: Rams with Kurt Warner. Well, they were in The Fearsome 1698 01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 1: Foursome fears Ye. Yeah, that was the Rams. Yeah, that 1699 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 1: was back in the Jones. Yep, that was my dad 1700 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 1: liked those Rams. Yeah, those Rams were good. 1701 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 3: Monsters of the Midway. That's the Bears yep, New York 1702 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,759 Speaker 3: Sack Exchange. Yes, the no Names, the seventy two Dolphins, 1703 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 3: Defense Dolphins, and. 1704 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 1: What was the Redskins? The Hogs? The Hogs. 1705 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Pony Express even though it's college. 1706 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 1: That was SMU. Well, my favorite college thing was the 1707 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: Chinese Bandits. Who's that The Chinese Bandits was google it? 1708 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 1: I forget it was Lsu No Texas A and m oh. 1709 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 1: The Chinese Bandits were a defensive They were Lsu Tigers. 1710 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 3: Most notably from fifty eight to fifty nine they were 1711 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 3: used briefly for the Army cadets. 1712 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: Wow. The Chinese Bandits, Wow, they don't have They don't 1713 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: really do that anymore because teams aren't they're not sticking 1714 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 1: around as long, so you're not getting the same guys 1715 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 1: playing for like Steele Curtain, they played ten, eight, six, 1716 01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,000 Speaker 1: seven years together. 1717 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 2: Guys are going after four making going to another team. 1718 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 2: It's a free agency world. 1719 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in the college thing now with that 1720 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 1: portal thing that everyone's a free agent every year. Well, 1721 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it'll work out. Yeah, it's pro pro sports. 1722 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 1: It's great to see the kids get paid. But they 1723 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: got to put some It's tough. It's Tod married with us. 1724 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 1: What we had so many people, but Bo Jackson was on. 1725 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Bo Jackson was not that tall, No, but he was. 1726 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 1: He was built his thighs, he was built, dude. He 1727 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 1: had legs and he was so unbelievably fast. 1728 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 2: He was a fast guy in the field, like five pounds. 1729 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was incredible. Let's score the game. 1730 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 1: We got to score the game, and he left for me. 1731 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,760 Speaker 1: I've got one leftover question what it would happen? 1732 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 3: So we hear a lot about there's chief celebrity fans 1733 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 3: John Hamm and Eric stone Street and Rob Wriggle and 1734 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is there a little 1735 01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 3: bit of a Steelers celebrity fan group in Holly? 1736 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 1: Would you got a group chat. I think there is. 1737 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I heard there was a bar, okay where they all 1738 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 1: go and watch the game. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. 1739 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,679 Speaker 1: I failed to find out where it was. But there 1740 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 1: is one. There is one, Okay, do you watch who 1741 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,040 Speaker 1: do you watch football with? By myself? It's like my dad. 1742 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 1: I never watched it with anyboney, talk to anyone. No, 1743 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 1: I just watch it. Yeah, my dad's like that. He 1744 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 1: never wanted to go to the game. No. Never. I 1745 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,839 Speaker 1: don't go to the games either. They got a park. Yeah, 1746 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's too much. I just watched it 1747 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 1: on TV. 1748 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 2: The coverage is so damn good too. 1749 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,799 Speaker 1: Now it's better that you, you know, you miss everything 1750 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 1: you go to the game. 1751 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:41,040 Speaker 4: I know. 1752 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Let's name the game. 1753 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,560 Speaker 3: Let me do this quick stat correction. Earlier on in 1754 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 3: the episode, you said modern Day. The show is Modern Family. 1755 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 1: That's okay, I said Modern Day. Yeah. 1756 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,479 Speaker 2: More Day is the high school down the street that 1757 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 2: Matt Liner went to. Well, okay. 1758 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,320 Speaker 3: And then the pilot that you were on with Tom 1759 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 3: Brady is called In the Game two thousand and four 1760 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 3: with Jennifer Love Hewittt. She played a single mother who 1761 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 3: was thrust into the spotlight and becomes an ESPN sideline reporter. 1762 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,479 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break. 1763 01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Let's name the game this Uh, these are some names 1764 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 2: we came with with that we could potentially call this game. 1765 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,120 Speaker 2: Usually the games we do have a historical name. This 1766 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 2: could be the Sloppy Bowl, the first one because it 1767 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,400 Speaker 2: was the first of the dynasty for the Steelers, the 1768 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Steel Curtain starter, the Franco Bull still made at two Lane, 1769 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,479 Speaker 2: or the Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. What 1770 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 2: would you like to name this game? Or do you 1771 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 2: have something else? 1772 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:49,599 Speaker 1: No, I don't have anything I would say. I would say, uh, look, 1773 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 1: women steal curtain versus the Purple People Leaders. I like that. 1774 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, look women you say you said, look, lady, you 1775 01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 2: gotta seven. 1776 01:31:59,120 --> 01:31:59,760 Speaker 1: You got a nine. 1777 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 2: You're trying to get me with the seven. All right, 1778 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 2: let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of 1779 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,439 Speaker 2: all time? Let's score it steaks one to ten? What 1780 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 2: do you score this game? 1781 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,640 Speaker 1: One to ten? Super Bowl stakes? Super Bowl game? What 1782 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 1: do you mean the stakes of the game. 1783 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 3: It's like a regular season game, low stakes preseason almost 1784 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,479 Speaker 3: nothing playoff game has higher stake. 1785 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl We generally super Bowls generally. 1786 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 3: Are hitting in the high eights the mid nineties, depending 1787 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,799 Speaker 3: on all Right, well. 1788 01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,760 Speaker 1: It's the first win, so stakes were high. 1789 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Dolphin the Vikings just lost a couple, 1790 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 3: so the stakes are higher for them too, because it's 1791 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,720 Speaker 3: a little bit. 1792 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Of the losers to score. I'd say ten for the 1793 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:54,559 Speaker 1: Steaks star Power. What do you score the star Power fam? Ten? 1794 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,160 Speaker 3: Also, Bruce Springsteen was asked to play the halftime show 1795 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,160 Speaker 3: to climb it down. Turned it down, turned it down. 1796 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,439 Speaker 3: It was the attribute to Duke Ellington by the Grand 1797 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 3: Leaks State Band. Ye, not the same star. 1798 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Gameplay the gameplay? Are you talking that? That's talking about 1799 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the music. No, the game, the game, the game, the game, 1800 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 1: like how how the game was? Oh so it was 1801 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 1: a sloppy game, right, sloppy. 1802 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,000 Speaker 2: But if your defense guy could be a good game. 1803 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:22,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1804 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of mistakes too, like fumble that 1805 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,479 Speaker 3: are dropped and missed. 1806 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: This game, I'd say give it. I don't know, eight seven, 1807 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't. 1808 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,759 Speaker 2: Know, go seven seven the game of the game. Steel 1809 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,760 Speaker 2: Curtain versus Purple People Leaders probably two of the best 1810 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,000 Speaker 2: nicknames for defenses of all time. Yeah, so one of ten? 1811 01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 2: What are you scoring this, bad boy? 1812 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 1: Uh? I'd give it ten ten, ten because it's the 1813 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: two greatest names. It's got it for defense. What's the total? 1814 01:33:58,880 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Nine two? 1815 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 2: The defense game? It was a defensive game. The average 1816 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 2: comes out to seven six y five along with Jack 1817 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 2: Kyler and my scores. 1818 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,639 Speaker 1: Where does this lead on? We've done all these games? 1819 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:16,599 Speaker 1: My god, you guys done a lot. We've got baseball, boxing, soccer. Wow, 1820 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:17,559 Speaker 1: you got box right. 1821 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 3: In between Super Bowl seventeen Cowboys versus Bills and Super 1822 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:29,120 Speaker 3: Bowl with the Rams versus Bengals. That feels that feels 1823 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 3: pretty good. 1824 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,520 Speaker 2: The Double Donk game, the almost tie game. 1825 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Just behind the can't wait game. 1826 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,160 Speaker 3: That game is too high, that's way too high. And 1827 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,640 Speaker 3: double Donk. Yeah, this is this feels right. We've got 1828 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 3: a new scoring system because shit got wonkey. This feels 1829 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 3: right good scoring. 1830 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 1: It's a good score. Yeah good. You should do some 1831 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. I should? 1832 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 2: Huh, I just get I get terrified with my knees. 1833 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,720 Speaker 1: I bet no. You know what, you do a lot 1834 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: of rolling on you start out. You can start out 1835 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,560 Speaker 1: on your knees, so you know. I never hurt my 1836 01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,679 Speaker 1: knees doing jiu jitsu. Yeah, and I have niece three 1837 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 1: operations that shit. Try it because box is starting to 1838 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,880 Speaker 1: hurt my shoulder. Yeah, it's shoulders jack. If I've foreseen it, 1839 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,799 Speaker 1: you can't you know boxing. If two guys know boxing, 1840 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,200 Speaker 1: the big guy is gonna win nine times out of ten. Yeah, 1841 01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,240 Speaker 1: hit you gotta. 1842 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 2: Hit him, come on four and sixty six. 1843 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: Maybe one game. But they do have weight divisions, and 1844 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: they do have weight divisions. You know, did we miss 1845 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 1: anything about this game or any of this? No, I 1846 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,639 Speaker 1: don't think so. We got it all. I think so. Yeah, 1847 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 1: we are trying to remember where I was when I 1848 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,360 Speaker 1: saw it. I know I saw it. There was a 1849 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 1: bar used to go to call the lamp post. That 1850 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 1: was probably there. We gotta get to the lamp post. 1851 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta. 1852 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a games and names go to the 1853 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 2: lamp post and do another game. 1854 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,719 Speaker 1: Well, the lamp post is not the same now, probably isn't. 1855 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 2: But we'll find it strip joint or something. 1856 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,640 Speaker 1: But before that was was it was owned by a 1857 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,799 Speaker 1: mob guy. You can make a lot of bets in there, 1858 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 1: Old Youngstown. I never heard of a place in Youngstown 1859 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,639 Speaker 1: with a mob guys. Well, if you google Youngstown, google 1860 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:13,080 Speaker 1: Youngstown Murdertown, USA, Murdertown, USA or Bombtown USA. When I 1861 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: was a kid, there were one hundred and sixty five 1862 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:22,840 Speaker 1: unsolved bombings of automobiles with people in them from called 1863 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 1: the Youngstown Tune Up. 1864 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,320 Speaker 3: Sixty years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimetown USA. 1865 01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:33,599 Speaker 1: Why they got it the bomb on a crime Google 1866 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:34,400 Speaker 1: the Youngstown. 1867 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 3: Youngstown had seventy five bombings eleven killings in a decade 1868 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 3: and no one seems to care, you know, after years 1869 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 3: of being called bombtown and murder town already by other publications, 1870 01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 3: this one was Crimetown, USA, and it really stuck. As 1871 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 3: Johnny chitsielly, it was. 1872 01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,960 Speaker 1: A producer of mob Talk, I know, Youngs Time Mob Talk. 1873 01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,839 Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by the Youngstown Traveled. 1874 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on that today, Young's Time up. You might 1875 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,439 Speaker 2: get tuned up. And if and everyone might get tuned 1876 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 2: up right now, if you don't go on FX and 1877 01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 2: watch clip that airs on Tuesday exclusively on Hulu, you're 1878 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:15,639 Speaker 2: gonna get tuned up. 1879 01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 1: That's it. That's where that tuned up probably comes from. 1880 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I remember you just say you can get tuned 1881 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 1: up kid. No, that was for a car. No, but 1882 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 1: that also make you're tuned up about to get Yeah, 1883 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,120 Speaker 1: you're right right. 1884 01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:30,680 Speaker 2: You got toned. He got tuned up. 1885 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:31,240 Speaker 1: That's it. 1886 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 2: That's that was he got tuned up ed. Thank you 1887 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,400 Speaker 2: so much for con. 1888 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 1: On this so much. This is awesome, man, that was awesome. 1889 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,479 Speaker 1: He's so cool. He's a legend, legend and like. 1890 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 3: Athlete in his heart right he might have had his 1891 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,479 Speaker 3: career as an actor and all these hit shows and 1892 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 3: all this stuff. But like the way he was talking, 1893 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,640 Speaker 3: like and he was talking about football from the sixties. 1894 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 2: Like it was yesterday, like it was yesterday, and then 1895 01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:01,080 Speaker 2: he proceeded to put me in a Brasilian jiu jitsu move. 1896 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 2: After the show, I got footage of that. I feel 1897 01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,839 Speaker 2: you actually feeling like the when he breathed, did the breathing. 1898 01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, didn't want to hurt Al Bundy. 1899 01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,240 Speaker 2: I mean four touchdowns in nineteen sixty six in one game, 1900 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 2: no shot. 1901 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,719 Speaker 1: Let's hit the old hot line. 1902 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,800 Speaker 2: Remember that number is four two four two nine one 1903 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,080 Speaker 2: two two nine zero. 1904 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 5: So boys love the Pods. My name is Ryan from 1905 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 5: Somerville Matts just want the jewels. He made my life 1906 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 5: growing up super easy and it was awesome growing up. 1907 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,880 Speaker 5: The question I had is who was the smelliest guy 1908 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 5: in the locker room after practice games meeting? 1909 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,559 Speaker 4: Who was that guy? 1910 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,559 Speaker 5: Always just smells like man, that guy works hard, Thank 1911 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 5: you boys love the pods. 1912 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 2: That guy worked hard, so he smelled. Usually it was 1913 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 2: a big fat guys they smell. But the one who 1914 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 2: always I used to have a fuck problem with Amndola. 1915 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 2: He would because Danny never wore socks, and he'd wear 1916 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,439 Speaker 2: new shoes all the time. But sometimes he'd wear a 1917 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 2: pair of shoes, like three or four times, would be 1918 01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 2: in a meat and he have his feet on. My Yeo, bro, 1919 01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 2: you don't have fucking socks on. I could smell your 1920 01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,639 Speaker 2: feet from here. You take those guys, well, you put 1921 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,519 Speaker 2: some socks on. You're not that cool. 1922 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 1: What was the candle budget at the wide receiver room? 1923 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 2: We didn't even have. You couldn't have anything burning in. 1924 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,759 Speaker 2: I think there's no burning of anything. 1925 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,599 Speaker 3: So you think anola is your answer to this? 1926 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 2: He had some smelly little feet. 1927 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 3: Because I've I've heard in Granted, I was never in 1928 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,200 Speaker 3: the building. I was never in the room. It's only 1929 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 3: secondary sources, but I have some sources. 1930 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:40,160 Speaker 1: That say it was you. 1931 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't smell. I don't smell I may had a 1932 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,040 Speaker 2: messy locker room here and. 1933 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,720 Speaker 3: There Kent State jersey shirts that you wear every day. 1934 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:51,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I took that right off and I was 1935 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 2: in the shower immediately. Okay, okay, I didn't smell and 1936 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,360 Speaker 2: I had good fragrances. I used to steal Tom's perfume. 1937 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 4: I just wanted to call and what is your favorite story. 1938 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: Of a vacation with some of your teammates on the 1939 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:18,720 Speaker 1: on the. 1940 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:27,679 Speaker 2: Patriots favorite story of vacation? Remember when me, Danny and 1941 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 2: Tom went to Montana for a fourth of July to train. 1942 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 2: We had like three days of hard training. Tom left 1943 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 2: to me and Danny state extra day and like there's 1944 01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,520 Speaker 2: so many activities with Tom, Like everything is scheduled out. 1945 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,480 Speaker 1: You got two hours. 1946 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,439 Speaker 2: For this, an hour for that, you know, or we 1947 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 2: have we have dinner at this time, we have to 1948 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,960 Speaker 2: go do this at that time he left. We literally 1949 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,799 Speaker 2: just took two quads and just went up the mountain 1950 01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 2: and uh, we were doing like donuts and then all 1951 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,639 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I rolled one of the quads fully broken, 1952 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 2: left at the person's house we're staying at. 1953 01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:07,840 Speaker 1: I didn't say a word, just got in the car 1954 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,000 Speaker 1: and left. How does. 1955 01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,760 Speaker 3: How does the invite for that go? Is that a 1956 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,360 Speaker 3: text or is that like a tap on the shoulder 1957 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,679 Speaker 3: from someone else? That's what Tom would text me, Tom 1958 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 3: text Tom text yeah two. 1959 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1960 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,840 Speaker 3: It's funny that you mentioned that story because we did 1961 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 3: it years ago. We did a trip to Israel and 1962 01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,280 Speaker 3: you left a day early and after you were gone, 1963 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 3: it was the best day. 1964 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 1: All right, last one. 1965 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:40,839 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I'll get go on. My question is for Julian. Julian, 1966 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,120 Speaker 4: I know that when you were playing football you have 1967 01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,760 Speaker 4: a pretty strict diet about what you would eat. Your 1968 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 4: very health conscious and all that. I am curious if 1969 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:57,240 Speaker 4: there was anything that you ate during that time that 1970 01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:03,680 Speaker 4: you hated so much the you have no interest in 1971 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 4: taking a vie. 1972 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:11,480 Speaker 2: I used to eat alligator because it has like these 1973 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 2: rich omegas and it's also got like more protein than 1974 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 2: a fish. I remember eating that and I was like, first, 1975 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,479 Speaker 2: like I'm trying to like trick myself the first time 1976 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 2: I eat it, like, oh, it kind of tastes like chicken. 1977 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,160 Speaker 2: It's good. Then after eating it for like eight weeks 1978 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 2: straight on every Tuesday, I'm like, I don't know if 1979 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 2: I can eat this somewhere it doesn't taste like chicken. 1980 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:40,559 Speaker 1: It's kind of fishy. So alligator or alligator alligator cut that. 1981 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,599 Speaker 1: That's a great answer. What a game. 1982 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:48,160 Speaker 2: Thanks aged to Ed. Make sure you watch FX is Clipped. 1983 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:54,320 Speaker 2: It airs on Tuesday exclusively on Hulu. That's been another 1984 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:58,360 Speaker 2: episode of Games and Names. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 1985 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to podcast. 1986 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,759 Speaker 1: Comment a game you want us to do, and remember 1987 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 1: to rate a review. Yeah, it didn't sound it didn't 1988 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:08,680 Speaker 1: sound right. 1989 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,519 Speaker 3: I'll never remember Jack. Huh, I'll never be Jack. He's 1990 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 3: one of one. 1991 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,760 Speaker 2: Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, ex TikTok, 1992 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,720 Speaker 2: and Snapchat. Leave a message on the hotline at four 1993 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 2: two four two nine one two two nine zero. See 1994 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 2: you guys next week. Games with Names the production of iHeartRadio. 1995 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 1996 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,440 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.