Speaker 1: It's three am in Antelope, Oregon, and you're listening to Nightcall.
Speaker 1: Hi guys, I'm Tess Lynch in l A and with
Speaker 1: me are Molly Lambert and Emily Oshida in New York.
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Speaker 1: anything you want to talk about. This week, we are
Speaker 1: going to pick up talking about Wild Wild Country because
Speaker 1: we've all almost finished it or finished it and it's
Speaker 1: too good for just one episode. So, Molly, you finished
Speaker 1: the doc when I finished it? She finished it, she wins.
Speaker 1: There's like five more twists at the end that yeah,
Speaker 1: I was saying, as the doc is kind of slow paced,
Speaker 1: and then at the end there's like a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff where I'm like, hey, wait, I would like to
Speaker 1: know more about that. Part really breezed past that. There's
Speaker 1: so much um Wild Wild Country content out there right now,
Speaker 1: and it's totally killing me because I don't want to
Speaker 1: read any of it until I'm finished. Like, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen these headlines on Vulture, the site that I
Speaker 1: work at, just like, uh, you know the directors of
Speaker 1: Wild Wild Country still aren't sure who's right, and so
Speaker 1: at least I know that that's like still going to
Speaker 1: remain the same where I'm just I have no idea
Speaker 1: how to even begin to think about who I agree
Speaker 1: with you. We were talking about that because I was
Speaker 1: thinking it was really funny in the first episode we
Speaker 1: did about this. We were all like, seems great, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll absily go wrong with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we knew there was like a twist. Well I had
Speaker 1: seen I had seen where they start poisoning people and
Speaker 1: drugging the homeless people, which is just you know, a plus,
Speaker 1: you know you're on a great path when you're tranquilizing
Speaker 1: homeless people. That that's was just saying, that's when that's
Speaker 1: when you turn. I was also saying that initially we
Speaker 1: had kind of we we were like, Okay, these people
Speaker 1: in Oregon are being pretty racist and pinning a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, their reception to these people as being
Speaker 1: from racism. I mean, I think I assumed that the
Speaker 1: fact that they saw a lot of white hipsters following
Speaker 1: an Indian guru, and they were kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this seems threatening. This seems strange, so I automatically was
Speaker 1: not on their side. Yeah, I mean I think both
Speaker 1: things are true. I think the white people in Oregon
Speaker 1: are racist. And also the cult is evil. I mean,
Speaker 1: the cult is so evil. Well what you realize is
Speaker 1: like it's maybe it's maybe just Sheila that's evil. Well,
Speaker 1: and I think that there is sort of kind of
Speaker 1: the argument of what any of this happened if the
Speaker 1: community had been more welcomed, more welcoming to them when
Speaker 1: they showed up. But also, and one thing that I
Speaker 1: think that the doc, as far as I've gotten through
Speaker 1: it has alighted. And this goes to my my second
Speaker 1: secondhand encounter with oshow this past weekend, um is I
Speaker 1: think that the doc is really kind of glossed over
Speaker 1: how prominent the sex aspect of the bag one following
Speaker 1: whatever Ragnisism which dies in a certain episode, the one
Speaker 1: I just watched they kill ra Genisism. But but still
Speaker 1: it was like a really big part of it, um
Speaker 1: that they kind of mentioned at the beginning, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was the sex guru, but that was a really
Speaker 1: big part of it. And the woman go ahead, I
Speaker 1: because I was already reading about cults a lot before
Speaker 1: this came out, Um, just because we all are interested
Speaker 1: in cults and talk about them a lot. Um. There's
Speaker 1: like a history of cults in America that are like
Speaker 1: Eastern religion themed but then are like about sex. So
Speaker 1: I was reading about there was like a cult in
Speaker 1: Upstate New York and maybe like turn of the century,
Speaker 1: I want to say that was the first cult that
Speaker 1: like brought the idea of NTRA over to America and
Speaker 1: associated it with sex, which it was not in India.
Speaker 1: It was like its own thing, but they like kind
Speaker 1: of rebranded it as like sex crest Western like must
Speaker 1: go after all things horny. Yeah, and the sort of
Speaker 1: orientalism of like the mystical East or everybody knows how
Speaker 1: to bone different way. Um, but it was it sort
Speaker 1: of began this tradition of people having these sort of
Speaker 1: free love cults that are sort of Eastern religion themed
Speaker 1: but really have nothing to do with Eastern religion. They
Speaker 1: just starre those are the trappings style. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: it's just the same way that I think the townspeople
Speaker 1: on Antelope saw this non traditional community where you know,
Speaker 1: marriage wasn't necessarily a part of how communities were built.
Speaker 1: And it was more communal being very repetitive here, but
Speaker 1: that you know, that threat to the nuclear family always
Speaker 1: then become anxiety about sex. But like the inverse is
Speaker 1: true too, where you you can, you know, wanna I
Speaker 1: want to have something that doesn't necessarily resemble a nuclear families,
Speaker 1: some sort of like utopian post patriarchal um situation. But
Speaker 1: then it always comes back to sex. Also, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the documentary did have some some pretty great
Speaker 1: sex footage. Um. I also thought it was super interesting
Speaker 1: like that even that spread out with that much land,
Speaker 1: that people are very nimbyish about the sounds of the
Speaker 1: great sex. I mean, really it must make And it
Speaker 1: was kind of blamed on the lack of trees. It
Speaker 1: was like it's just echoing over the planes. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well this calm fine, um. But yeah, I also was
Speaker 1: reading on Wikipedia. I mean, some of the the bog
Speaker 1: Ones beliefs were a little more troubling than I at
Speaker 1: least heard in the documentary. As far as I got,
Speaker 1: I just finished the fourth episode. But he first he
Speaker 1: had kind of like an end of Days thing going
Speaker 1: where he he thought that everything was going to end
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Um, and then he also he kind
Speaker 1: of espoused like a form Molly was saying, like, it's
Speaker 1: kind of eugenic, see where um, it's built off of
Speaker 1: what I agree with of like if you're you know,
Speaker 1: terminally ill and you want to end your life, fine,
Speaker 1: But then he kind of extended that to the idea
Speaker 1: that if you're unhappy with your body or someone else's,
Speaker 1: if you're not beautiful, like maybe get rid of you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I it's it's it's eugenics.
Speaker 1: It's eugenics. And he's like his explanation is like, well,
Speaker 1: like if we don't take control of eugenics, like the
Speaker 1: Nazis are going to anyway, so like we better do
Speaker 1: like it, which is not a thing. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like that's how a lot of like tech people
Speaker 1: probably think, oh totally yeah, yeah, eugenics has me to
Speaker 1: come back. I was just thinking about it. I was like,
Speaker 1: the main difference between like girls and hoodies and like
Speaker 1: call is that we talk about like Nazis a lot more.
Speaker 1: You're finding you know, it's all connected. Uh. I was
Speaker 1: reading about the Nike guy some more to try and
Speaker 1: find out more about that swosh, which I did. It
Speaker 1: is a a alternate swosh that's not used as much,
Speaker 1: called a pinwheel swish. And what you can't really see
Speaker 1: in that photo is that they're like lighter. It's like
Speaker 1: two swooshes to swishtika is like over each other. So
Speaker 1: that's actually like an eight pointed thing. Then burst with
Speaker 1: the sunbursts with swooshes. But the way that it looks
Speaker 1: when it's printed, it's like someone it looks like a
Speaker 1: swastica um. But I couldn't find anything damning about Bill Bowerman,
Speaker 1: the Nike guy. He seems like maybe he was fine,
Speaker 1: maybe he was like a xenophobic guy, but sneakers, yeah.
Speaker 1: But the Adidas and Puma guys were for sure in
Speaker 1: the s s UM and I learned a lot about them.
Speaker 1: Their name the Dossler brothers Audi and something. Dossler. Audi
Speaker 1: is short for Adolf and his name is Adolf Dussler,
Speaker 1: and Adidas is his nickname Addi Audi das Um. But
Speaker 1: they were Nazis, but they also uh decided that they
Speaker 1: would get Jesse Owens to wear their shoes in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: So they were Nazis but also capitalists who were like,
Speaker 1: we're going to get an endorsement from this guy. Whatever
Speaker 1: works that is gonna win. Um and he did. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he won four gold medals in their shoes. So then
Speaker 1: after World War Two and all the other Germans were broke,
Speaker 1: they made a lot of money by marketing the shoes
Speaker 1: that Jesse Owens won four gold medals in. Uh so
Speaker 1: they were like sell out Nazis. Um anyway, streetwear, I
Speaker 1: heard a lot about the origins of many streetwear brands.
Speaker 1: Um well, I I I alluded to this earlier, but
Speaker 1: I did meet somebody who had um met the bog
Speaker 1: one and I haven't heard this story. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: Molly mentioned it. Yeah, I mean it was. It was
Speaker 1: maddening because I spent the weekend in the Hampton's which
Speaker 1: sounds fancier than it was. I just like stayed in
Speaker 1: a room in a lady's house in the Hamptons, which
Speaker 1: was actually quite nice. But um, you know, she was
Speaker 1: like obviously kind of like an age hippie. She had
Speaker 1: like some Buddhas in the room and some crystals and stuff.
Speaker 1: It was very chill um and like totally in the
Speaker 1: previous generation way of having Buddhas and crystals in your room.
Speaker 1: Not the millennial way, like I was actually quite the
Speaker 1: last stark minimalism. No, no, it was definitely not a minimalist.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff, so we I mean,
Speaker 1: she was very sweet, but then she gave me a
Speaker 1: ride back to the train and we were just talking
Speaker 1: to she. She knew that I was that I wrote
Speaker 1: about movies, and then we were talking about TV and
Speaker 1: how she had been ending a show on Netflix and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, the one I'm working on is
Speaker 1: a wildlick country and she didn't know about it, and
Speaker 1: I started to describe it for her. She's like, before
Speaker 1: I could even finish, she was like, I met him.
Speaker 1: I met him in the seventies in India. Um. And
Speaker 1: she said she said that, And this was like thirty
Speaker 1: seconds before she dropped me off. Otherwise I would have
Speaker 1: just like hampered her with questions um. But she said
Speaker 1: that she would have been immediately put off by the
Speaker 1: sex cult stuff. Um. Which is interesting because you don't
Speaker 1: meet those people in the dock. You don't. You don't
Speaker 1: meet the people who met him, and we're like, not
Speaker 1: for me. You meet the people who immediately were enchanted
Speaker 1: by his eyes and felt like they had to start
Speaker 1: crying and kissing his feet and whatever. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's probably plenty of people who were like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like my guru. Not my guru, Like the
Speaker 1: idea of somebody who's like down enough to be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for someone and then be like no, this person, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she was in I think
Speaker 1: she was in Bombay, yeah, in the seventies, and you know,
Speaker 1: likely with a group of people who are like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go see this guy. We we've been hearing
Speaker 1: about well without spoiling anything, uh taus. And I was saying,
Speaker 1: there's one Oregonian guy that is really likable. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you're talking about the Yeah, yeah, Overall's guy is
Speaker 1: really cool and smart and at the end he kind
Speaker 1: of like sums everything up and he's like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: do I think he's a con man? Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was a con the whole time. And he's like,
Speaker 1: but I think, like it was the seventies, there were
Speaker 1: all these Europeans like flocking to India looking for like
Speaker 1: answers and guidance and like wanting to believe in something,
Speaker 1: and this guy took advantage of that. But like these
Speaker 1: people wanted to be taken advantage of, you know, and
Speaker 1: he also provided I mean, if you're Westerner who's looking
Speaker 1: for enlightenment in some kind of figure like him, the
Speaker 1: guy who's like, hey, you can totally drink champagne and
Speaker 1: be a capitalist and everything, and also being with none
Speaker 1: of the like asceticism, which is like, you know, none
Speaker 1: none of the like you don't have to give up anything.
Speaker 1: You just get to like indulge in everything even more so,
Speaker 1: and everything good will happen to you. I would have
Speaker 1: fallen for it so many steps along the way. I
Speaker 1: think that the first thing that really impressed me was
Speaker 1: the fact that this cult was able to build such
Speaker 1: a nice house for Sheila and what seemed like no
Speaker 1: time that they were were texting and was like, how
Speaker 1: did they build an airport? Yes, I mean it's impressive.
Speaker 1: And when you start to think that there I mean
Speaker 1: according to Sheila, which obviously this has kind of proven
Speaker 1: wrong because Bogwan was taking valium and nitrous oxide later on.
Speaker 1: But if it was a cult where you know, drinking
Speaker 1: and drugs had been kind of replaced by sex and
Speaker 1: and spirituality, I was kind of like, wow, it made
Speaker 1: them so industrious. I mean, they just made this really
Speaker 1: all these mid century great and the farming aspect was great. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think you know, it's really for me,
Speaker 1: it was really astounding when they when they bust in
Speaker 1: a bunch of homeless people to sweep. That's when Also,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like, you don't feel bad for
Speaker 1: the people in the cult necessarily because they are willingly
Speaker 1: buying into being exploited. It's like the people who go
Speaker 1: to the Haunted House. Really, I think many I want
Speaker 1: willingly bought into the lie they were being sold that
Speaker 1: this religion was open to everyone, that America had turned
Speaker 1: its back on the homeless people who were veterans. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, I wonder if I would
Speaker 1: have smelled a rat at that well, because you're like,
Speaker 1: you just want to take care of people who really
Speaker 1: need it. Yeah, that would have felt like putting your
Speaker 1: money where your mouth is. Really like, Okay, if we
Speaker 1: really believe like this is a philosophy for everybody, then
Speaker 1: we should be opening our doors to everybody. But yeah,
Speaker 1: obvious way it was. It was much more disturbing to
Speaker 1: me than the bio terrorism. But that's probably because the
Speaker 1: results of the bioterrorism was not as intended. They were
Speaker 1: also doing bioterrorism on the homeless people. That what that?
Speaker 1: What that the of the variety of bioterrorism I thought
Speaker 1: was I was as sounded. I mean, I find this
Speaker 1: a very difficult thing to binge because it's well, not
Speaker 1: only because it's slow, but because it does kind of
Speaker 1: load it emotionally and it's very even handed. I think
Speaker 1: that that's the most frequent you know, praise and criticism
Speaker 1: is that it's so even handed. The first episode, he's
Speaker 1: really just devoted to winning you over to the cult
Speaker 1: a bit before, kind of like a very charming sociopath
Speaker 1: that we were talking about a little bit um the
Speaker 1: lawyer guy I'm like not a fan of, but he's
Speaker 1: also like such a type. I realized halfway through that
Speaker 1: he looks like Bob we're from. Yeah, he feels like
Speaker 1: somebody that you now. He feels like a friend of
Speaker 1: your parents or something such like as like friends and
Speaker 1: friends of my my mom, Like that's also my parents.
Speaker 1: I was like, did you know anyone who joined? And
Speaker 1: they were like, well, not that one. Yeah. It also
Speaker 1: just seemed like people in the eighties really like longing
Speaker 1: for the seventies. You know, a lot of it seemed
Speaker 1: to be a response change like in the bubble who yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know what, I don't. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's so eighties because it's so capitalist. But couldn't you
Speaker 1: see I mean in terms of these people reminding you
Speaker 1: of parents friends, couldn't you see them at the dinner
Speaker 1: table kind of talking about like the things they miss,
Speaker 1: like even just the flowy robes. It's also it's like
Speaker 1: the change you can see between like the oh's of
Speaker 1: maybe our generation being you know, into I don't know,
Speaker 1: you can you can fill in your own blanks here,
Speaker 1: but like for example, like scummy rooftop parties and like
Speaker 1: people doing circuit bending on the roof or whatever, circuit
Speaker 1: bending filling your join the circuit bending called you know what,
Speaker 1: I think you have an idea but then like but
Speaker 1: then but then it getting as you get older, is
Speaker 1: as you move on to your thirties and forties or whatever,
Speaker 1: then you find the more comforting like don't need to
Speaker 1: challenge capitalism and uh and the social structure that much
Speaker 1: version of that, like you find the kind of comfort version.
Speaker 1: I think that split is super interesting obviously that thing
Speaker 1: of like the people who at the end of the
Speaker 1: seventies were like, okay, back to capitalism, like back to
Speaker 1: like regular stuff, because like that didn't work, so like
Speaker 1: reboot and you know, a lot of hippies did become
Speaker 1: like yuppie sellouts. A lot of them made money in
Speaker 1: tech especially, and then there's that sort of that technocratic capitalism.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot of like Steve jobsiness to
Speaker 1: the Rashny sheets to like, you know, do what you
Speaker 1: feel and also buy a lot of diamonds. Oh man,
Speaker 1: when they get when the Hollywood crowd gives him the role.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about that because the Hollywood crowd.
Speaker 1: So Tazia is that her name has? I think she
Speaker 1: um because I looked her up there At one point
Speaker 1: they were like she produced the other Yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: look into that. Yeah, and it was because she was
Speaker 1: married to Albert Ready, who produced The Godfather. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: show them at like the oscars and stuff. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was yeah, And that is obviously. That's the thing is
Speaker 1: You're like, I would love to see a map of
Speaker 1: like all the other cults that were going on at
Speaker 1: the same time, because like when did the source family end, right.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of these things like petered out
Speaker 1: over a long period of time. Uh, some of them
Speaker 1: more quickly than others. There's like the Timothy Leary cult
Speaker 1: that he started that you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: like bought farm land and we're like, let's try some stuff.
Speaker 1: And then in that one, I think somebody took too
Speaker 1: much acid and died in a lake and then everybody left.
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing is, you're like, there is a
Speaker 1: little bit of like when where did the limitations and
Speaker 1: boundaries come in? You know, who has to be the
Speaker 1: grown up in these situations. It's like making sure people
Speaker 1: don't drown with The fascinating part of of of this
Speaker 1: cult in particular is just like, uh, that is not
Speaker 1: like negligence or everybody just being so loosey goosey that
Speaker 1: somebody just falls in a lake and downed. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, they were actually like they had a deep state.
Speaker 1: It was a tight ship. I mean, that's you have
Speaker 1: to hand it to them. But that's of course, as
Speaker 1: soon as they start really as soon as they started
Speaker 1: accumulating the guns, well that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you stop the cult from turning
Speaker 1: into a militia. Can you even ever stop that or
Speaker 1: does it always just turn into a militia? Well, hey,
Speaker 1: let's take a night call. Goodest time is any Hey there, um,
Speaker 1: this is Max calling in. First of all, I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you for the podcast. I am
Speaker 1: an insomniac, so appropriately enough, um. And it's often one
Speaker 1: or two in the morning when I'm listening, and I
Speaker 1: do deal with loneliness and depression, so it's nice during
Speaker 1: those long, lonely nights to have a sympathetic voice to
Speaker 1: listen to. Um. But anyway, actually kind of on that subject,
Speaker 1: because of all the negativity going on in the world
Speaker 1: these days, I start of asking you all to say
Speaker 1: what you like about each other the most. So Molly
Speaker 1: talked to tell Tess and Emily what you like about them,
Speaker 1: and Emily and Tests you are the same thing, and
Speaker 1: you know, be real here be be I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you guys are real, but like this this might
Speaker 1: get intense, like make each other blush. And also which
Speaker 1: one of you is the ID, which one is the
Speaker 1: ego and which is the super ego. You guys are great.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for contributing to my insomnia, but
Speaker 1: also to my happiness and peace and love, peace and love. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like Max wants us to just have a
Speaker 1: like group therapy session as a podcast. UM. I mean
Speaker 1: we're like eleven episodes in. Now it's time, it is
Speaker 1: time we got to do a check in, got to
Speaker 1: do an emotional check in. Um. Also, it makes me
Speaker 1: happy that that people are actually listening to any time
Speaker 1: anybody calls in and As says that they actually listened
Speaker 1: to it at night. It's it's very heartwarming to me
Speaker 1: for some reason. Thank you using as intended. UM. So,
Speaker 1: who's the ID? You guys do we go around? I
Speaker 1: feel like I have mine pretty clearly, but I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if everybody is going to be different just because Okay,
Speaker 1: you do yours because you have it. I know I
Speaker 1: want to know. Okay, Um, Molly is the ID, I'm
Speaker 1: the ego and Test is a super ego. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: what I thought. Yeah, You're that's the only one I
Speaker 1: feel really strongly about. But I thought, Emily, I think
Speaker 1: maybe you're the ID. WHOA I thought maybe I thought
Speaker 1: you were the I can't be the IT. I started
Speaker 1: like just the nature of this podcast in our in
Speaker 1: our original life is girls and hoodies. Me being the
Speaker 1: editor between you two, I can never be the end
Speaker 1: of this podcast. I'm always going to be either the
Speaker 1: ego or super ego. It's just impossible. I was struggling
Speaker 1: with Emily which of us was the ego and which
Speaker 1: is the super ego? And I was like, I think
Speaker 1: it's whoever has more guilt, I think, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, I think it's me. I wanted to I
Speaker 1: know this isn't exactly the question, but I really want
Speaker 1: to force this on you. Um which is cheers strology,
Speaker 1: which I know believe is real. Oh tell me. I
Speaker 1: was like tweeting I like, because I'm watching a lot
Speaker 1: of Cheers, And I was like, guys like, wait, have
Speaker 1: you like you've been watching a lot of Cheers Molly,
Speaker 1: I haven't, hadd you know I have understood. Actually, actually
Speaker 1: I finished the whole show, watched all eleven seasons. Wow, congratulation,
Speaker 1: thanks really making good use of my life. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a I'm a Carla with a
Speaker 1: Lilith rising, like as a joke. And then somebody like
Speaker 1: wrote me a message and was like I've been listening
Speaker 1: to you for like a long time and like you're
Speaker 1: actually like, here's what I think you are and why
Speaker 1: and you're rising though. They were like your Rebecca because
Speaker 1: like your cynical and you have like a deep voice,
Speaker 1: and you have a Diane Rising because you like use
Speaker 1: big words a lot, and I can see that. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, they like read me
Speaker 1: to the ground, Like I kind of right, I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like you're a Diane Woody Rising. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like. But then I wanted to see what you
Speaker 1: guys think you are. Oh man, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I feel like i'd have to have just watched eleven
Speaker 1: seasons to know. I feel I always remember whenever I
Speaker 1: go back in and do a do a run of it.
Speaker 1: I've never watched the whole thing all the way through,
Speaker 1: but I always feel a very strong affinity for Cliff
Speaker 1: Cliff clafn But Cliff sucks. I'm sorry. It's the show
Speaker 1: is like like Cliff is one of those characters who
Speaker 1: at first I was like he's so uh new and weird,
Speaker 1: and then by the end they all just a like,
Speaker 1: funk off, Cliff Amen. I haven't seen the end of
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the end, so maybe you're a Cliff
Speaker 1: with a norm rising. That's what you're saying. I was
Speaker 1: going to diagnose you as the rare double Lilith. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I like, yeah, the double Lilith is strong.
Speaker 1: That's like a double Virgo or something. Test. I think
Speaker 1: you might be. I think you're there's a norm in there.
Speaker 1: I know this. So I think you're a Diane with
Speaker 1: a sam Malone rising. It's it's really hard to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel very like emotionally removed from Cheers.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I watched Cheers. I've
Speaker 1: been living by Carrie's a little Bostonian. I think you're
Speaker 1: more about either of us. Will say I'm a little
Speaker 1: Bostonian too, Tests, and I have a real high tolerance
Speaker 1: for Boston. You guys just so on the East Coast,
Speaker 1: which I feel is more formative than me moving here
Speaker 1: almost in my th So, Molly's mom is From's from Boston.
Speaker 1: Both of my parents are from Boston. We like love
Speaker 1: a Massachusetts accent, I know, and we we have a
Speaker 1: lot of clam cakes between us. Yeah, Hi tolerance, Hi tolerance.
Speaker 1: I could do a Sopranos astrology. It's probably where I
Speaker 1: would I think I think about the think about it
Speaker 1: next week. Okay, I think I think cheer astrology is real.
Speaker 1: Astrology might not be real Israel. Um, speaking of insomnia,
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Speaker 1: As far as seeing nice things about each other, can
Speaker 1: I just say that one of the nice things that
Speaker 1: has been really fun to think about recently is that
Speaker 1: we've been working together for what eight years on what
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it the other day, I because
Speaker 1: I wrote my first piece for grant Land. I believe
Speaker 1: Inn Molly had joined then as well. Emily, I think
Speaker 1: you cameelve, and so that's when we all started working together.
Speaker 1: Sort of has like opened a portal to the last
Speaker 1: time we all had to show to change, yeah, which
Speaker 1: was totally I mean, I will say I uh started
Speaker 1: the podcast because I was like still at that point,
Speaker 1: and it got better over the course of time that
Speaker 1: I worked there, But there were about I think three
Speaker 1: total grant Land female voice um, and so I think
Speaker 1: I desperately wanted to have a corner. Uh. The first
Speaker 1: the first name that the podcast was almost when we
Speaker 1: were like what shouldn't be called? And they were like,
Speaker 1: how about Grantland W We're like no. We spent so
Speaker 1: many months just being like noah W yeah, no double regular.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's it's kind of cool when you
Speaker 1: think about how many people do you work with, you know,
Speaker 1: over that amount of time, and you take breaks and
Speaker 1: you come back together. Um. Because when we when we
Speaker 1: first started working together, it was a different world. I
Speaker 1: get very email thinking about it because I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: those people that are my friends from that time are like,
Speaker 1: we have known each other for a long time now,
Speaker 1: but obviously I'm always still like five or six years
Speaker 1: behind where I actually reality is like that was just yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it was a long time ago. And
Speaker 1: it's also like the industry has changed so much. I
Speaker 1: mean when we started, when we all started working together,
Speaker 1: just everything looked completely different and the optimism was completely different.
Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of amazing for me to
Speaker 1: see what you guys have done since then and how
Speaker 1: you've continued to kind of work separately, like we've all
Speaker 1: been doing our own things, but I pretty regularly have
Speaker 1: been checking in about what we're all interested in. And
Speaker 1: there was never a moment when I didn't like, wish
Speaker 1: we still had a show, absolutely, And I mean during
Speaker 1: the last Girls in Hoodies when I called in, I cried. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think it's cool when you admire the people
Speaker 1: that you work with so much that you kind of
Speaker 1: seek them out across different places, you know. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: So Emily scrubbed her Facebook and she sent this message
Speaker 1: that she had said to me on Facebook. That was
Speaker 1: like a fan email before we were friends that I
Speaker 1: totally never got or I would have responded to. I
Speaker 1: didn't like read it and be like because suddenly it
Speaker 1: was like you probably read this, and we're like, you're
Speaker 1: a starker. Well, it was because we had a lot
Speaker 1: of friends in common and I think you would like
Speaker 1: something of mine on Facebook. And then I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I should like strive a copic conversation with Molly because
Speaker 1: we have so many friends in comment. And then it
Speaker 1: didn't happen for like three more years or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like that you know, that optimistic internet time.
Speaker 1: Also when we were all on Tumblr and we were
Speaker 1: like making friends through the internet and being like this
Speaker 1: is cool, Like it's no longer sketchy to make friends
Speaker 1: through the internet. It's like you meet people that write
Speaker 1: things you like online and then you meet them in
Speaker 1: real life and they're kind of like the person that
Speaker 1: you met online, although some people are totally different in
Speaker 1: real life and that's also really weird. Well now, I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, we have old friends who are internet friends,
Speaker 1: whereas it always seems like you're going to be kind
Speaker 1: of your new friends. Yeah, they're your new friends. They're
Speaker 1: not like your close friends. But you know, now I've
Speaker 1: seen a certain kind of there are people that you're
Speaker 1: like intimate with on the internet at like a certain
Speaker 1: level of like maybe you've never met them, but you
Speaker 1: like quote unquote know them for like a decade. Now
Speaker 1: it's been Now you have old friends who are your
Speaker 1: internet friends, and some of them end up getting mere
Speaker 1: I've seen two couples from Tumbler get married kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's fun, but anyway, one of you're the first
Speaker 1: person ever witness get married test Oh really, Hey, but
Speaker 1: I didn't marry a Tumbler person, so it's not as
Speaker 1: special as spice actively but it's not as spice. Probably
Speaker 1: both better for the pre wedding hashtag time. And I'm
Speaker 1: actually I feel like I'm closest with the female friends
Speaker 1: that I've made from the internet, and I don't really
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's because if you're straight and
Speaker 1: you're making opposite gender friends on the internet, you have
Speaker 1: a high probability of like one of you creeping the
Speaker 1: other out at some point. But it's nice because you know,
Speaker 1: we're old internet friends and real friends, and it's been
Speaker 1: we've been potting in one form or another for a while,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate that Internet. Internet friends, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: what I'm going to say really quickly, two nice things
Speaker 1: about or one nice thing about each of you, rather tests.
Speaker 1: I think you have very good intuition about everything that
Speaker 1: you like, don't like, and believe in. And I think
Speaker 1: that I'm more wishy washy, so I admire that. And Molly,
Speaker 1: I think you are probably the most curious person I know,
Speaker 1: which is a great quality. That's all. That's nice. Wait,
Speaker 1: did I say nice things about you? I'm gonna you
Speaker 1: don't have to. I was just thinking, no, I want to.
Speaker 1: I like this question. Um yeah, Emily, I think you're
Speaker 1: a brilliant genius. Um as, I also think you're a
Speaker 1: brilliant genius. I love you, guys, and it's cool to
Speaker 1: be on the Internet radio again together. Okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: take a different night call, guys. I got allergies. I
Speaker 1: gotta go back. Hey, friends, it's one fifteen in the
Speaker 1: morning on a Tuesday, which in my life means I'm
Speaker 1: just finished up with tabletop RPG night during the week
Speaker 1: and return home, occasionally scouring the internet for new ideas
Speaker 1: or games we might play in the future. Uh, and
Speaker 1: stumbled upon a post from a ready user of Funnel
Speaker 1: that is a Frazier RPG tabletop RPG entitled Boss, Dragons
Speaker 1: and Scrambled Eggs. Obviously, I thought it the three of
Speaker 1: you and whether or not you've had any experience with
Speaker 1: tabletop arpugs, and if so, if you'd be interested in
Speaker 1: playing an RPG with Niles Frazier, Lilith and Daphne have
Speaker 1: a have a good thing. Well, yes, I have played
Speaker 1: tabletop rpugs. You guys have, haven't I don't. I don't remember. No,
Speaker 1: we're not nerves Dungeons and Dragons. Oh oh okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's like the one you play with
Speaker 1: pen and paper and dice, Like, yeah, then I have
Speaker 1: you have? Well? I played Dungeons and Dragons in junior high.
Speaker 1: You did, I know? I didn't. I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: I think because I was like test would think it
Speaker 1: was uncool. Only once or twice, okay, only once or twice.
Speaker 1: They were like some kids who played magic in the
Speaker 1: break room. I remember I played a little magic in
Speaker 1: the bridge only like once or twice. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Dolay it. Be proud, be proud. But the problem was
Speaker 1: that I had trouble understanding the rule. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like I don't like those kinds of games because there
Speaker 1: are too many rules. It was awful because I was ashamed,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and I started doing it, and then it made me
Speaker 1: feel dumb and bad at being a nerd. And so
Speaker 1: it wasn't even the uncoolness. It was my ineptitude that
Speaker 1: made me not want to do it. And I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't deal with structured gameplay. Well. Molly will will
Speaker 1: be like, let's play scrabble, and then it'll get to
Speaker 1: jump to the point where you're winning, and she'll be like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get at that's just one time I have
Speaker 1: a place to be and you're like, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to play, and you know it's not like Molly
Speaker 1: been going really fast and everyone else is taking a
Speaker 1: long time. Everybody's doing our best. I get too anty,
Speaker 1: Molly's gotta go. Games take too long. The only game
Speaker 1: that doesn't take too long is boggle. I know I
Speaker 1: boggles the best. That's funny because I'm my experience and
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a bad thing at all,
Speaker 1: because I also like, I like, I like board games
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think people who like I think
Speaker 1: that it is I tend to think of it with
Speaker 1: anxiety in my mind, like if you have if you
Speaker 1: tend to be antsy or have social anxiety or like
Speaker 1: maybe like I don't know, like it's tough, then a
Speaker 1: board game is always reliable because you're like a an
Speaker 1: interaction I can do, like, I think that a lot
Speaker 1: like that. I'm always like, you know, what's a great
Speaker 1: interaction is just talking talking. And we played Uno at
Speaker 1: a bar for a while. Yeah, we dilute and that
Speaker 1: was really fun. It was fun. I do like, you know,
Speaker 1: I like you know. I also like like video game
Speaker 1: ARPGs a lot. Those are my favorite video games because
Speaker 1: in the nineties Mystical Ninja greatest game of all time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I like tabletop RPGs. I like
Speaker 1: um I think I got really obsessed with the idea
Speaker 1: of running one like doing like creating a campaign, being
Speaker 1: a dungeon, being a dungeon master. And I think you're
Speaker 1: a dungeon master of this podcastle Well, I spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time trying to figure out and that ship
Speaker 1: is hard because I like playing tabletop rbuts, but I
Speaker 1: have to be told what to do all the time
Speaker 1: because I'm never quite like you know, I never really
Speaker 1: known to do a saving throw or something like that.
Speaker 1: Usually hard, Yeah, but it's hard. It shouldn't be hard.
Speaker 1: I love just I love creating a character. Like when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I played a fair amount
Speaker 1: of games. I played, like probably mostly the World of
Speaker 1: Darkness games like Vampire. It's like Vampire, the Masquerade and Ship.
Speaker 1: It's like the stuff of how like I'm like making
Speaker 1: fun of you guys for being nerds, and like I
Speaker 1: like all kinds of other things that are justice nerding,
Speaker 1: just not this specific one. Yeah, but I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I would spend most of my I probably played it,
Speaker 1: you know, less than is like a like a interview
Speaker 1: with the Vampire. It's a modern it's modern Gothic hor um.
Speaker 1: It's like so there. So it's a bunch. It's a
Speaker 1: collection of games and they can kind of be used
Speaker 1: together if you want. But then there are ones that
Speaker 1: are just for um, just for magicians, called Major the Ascension,
Speaker 1: and there's long calls uh and the Vampire one is
Speaker 1: the most famous one. That's that's vampire the Masquerade. There's
Speaker 1: a werewolf one, there's a but you just really breeze
Speaker 1: past vampire the Masquerade. Where's the Masquerade come in? Um
Speaker 1: on the Masquerade is the is the collective act of
Speaker 1: vampires to live among humans undetected. Just the Masquerade, the
Speaker 1: Earth Masquerade. Okay, yeah yeah yeah. So but so there's
Speaker 1: all these different classes of vampires that you can be
Speaker 1: on the all different So there's like the arts romantic ones,
Speaker 1: and there's like the like um like blue blood ones,
Speaker 1: and they're um, there's like an academic class that I'm saying, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no, that's in maje. I at a
Speaker 1: character that was one of those, Yeah, I don't really
Speaker 1: your ma. That was like a professor. It was like
Speaker 1: a yeah, it was like a professor, professor of vampires.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't yeah, I think it's me, professor blood thirsts.
Speaker 1: You don't look look at me in a mirror to
Speaker 1: my doctor of phlebotomy basement apartment. Don't don't look too close.
Speaker 1: But that one is like like, well, there is a
Speaker 1: there is a species of the vampire. Ones that are
Speaker 1: called like the no s Ferrato vampires where you look
Speaker 1: like No s Ferratto and you're so ugly and scary
Speaker 1: that like immediately people run away from you. Like that's
Speaker 1: just built if you're going to be that kind of character,
Speaker 1: It's just like part of it is you're never going
Speaker 1: to be able to like, you know, con your way. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you won't. You have to hide out. But that's such
Speaker 1: an allegory for being a teen. Totally, No wonder they
Speaker 1: loved it. Nose Frasier. I mean I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: wut you guys to be down for a Frasier Totally? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be the Frasier RPG would
Speaker 1: not be It wouldn't be like I mean, you could
Speaker 1: do one where you're just playing as the central cast.
Speaker 1: But I feel like a more interesting open version of
Speaker 1: the game would be. Um like a Seattle nineties UM
Speaker 1: role playing game, so you could you know what this
Speaker 1: should be? It should be a CD ROM yeah, um yeah.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me, um you remember Jesse uh
Speaker 1: and then next of Mine. But he wanted to He
Speaker 1: always wanted to do a show that took place in
Speaker 1: a um took place in a cafe and the nineties
Speaker 1: in Seattle, like just as like a world um that
Speaker 1: it is, like the people that live next to Frasier. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like the people like the staff of cafe or Rosa.
Speaker 1: I've been getting really in decide stories just as like
Speaker 1: a thing that I know. It's like a big thing
Speaker 1: in anime. It's like, oh, another story that takes place
Speaker 1: during the main story that everyone knows. There's like a
Speaker 1: Battle Royal one. It's like, hey, here's some other kids
Speaker 1: who were trapped during Battle Royal. Yeah. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: do love the idea of just like yeah, like who
Speaker 1: is like the gunther of Fraser's like like a bulldog? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know a bulldog plot line? Yeah, or like secret life. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like you could have you know, the different
Speaker 1: classes would be like I mean, there would be literal classes,
Speaker 1: there would be like socio economic classes, and there would
Speaker 1: be things that you wouldn't be able to do if
Speaker 1: you were pulling minimum wage at Caffeine r Vosa, that
Speaker 1: you um would be able to do if you were
Speaker 1: part of the wine club or the opera club or something.
Speaker 1: Then there should be like like the movie Singles, there
Speaker 1: should be like a cast from there, like a grunge cast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Emily, if you were wanting to
Speaker 1: do an RPG, this may be the one to do.
Speaker 1: Now that we're discussing, well, it's hard to. Um, it's
Speaker 1: sort of hard to I mean, Dungeons and Dragons as
Speaker 1: the most um familiar rules to most people, so you
Speaker 1: like theoretically is best to build off of to to
Speaker 1: make something. But there are also parts of it that
Speaker 1: are just like in Unescapable Dungeons and Dragon ze, like
Speaker 1: just like the way you do combat, like having an
Speaker 1: ax instead of you know, it's just like kind of
Speaker 1: some of it is inescapably fantasy oriented. Um because I
Speaker 1: wanted to do one that was set in a post
Speaker 1: apocalyptic Portland, UM, and I had kind of mapped it out,
Speaker 1: like I was using an actual city map and everything.
Speaker 1: I think the theme of this episode is post apocalyptic
Speaker 1: Pacific North Pia. That's the theme of every episode in
Speaker 1: a way. Well, there's something very uh I think compelling
Speaker 1: about how everything like instead of things kind of turning
Speaker 1: to dust or something in the planes or um in
Speaker 1: the desert, it becomes annihilation, just like Bright Green Emerald
Speaker 1: Moss all over like eating buildings. I love when stuff
Speaker 1: goes back to nature. Hey, speaking of going back to nature,
Speaker 1: we asked for some ghost stories, and you guys really delivered. Um.
Speaker 1: If you have a ghost story that you would like
Speaker 1: to share, you can give us a call at two
Speaker 1: four oh four six night or email us at night
Speaker 1: Call podcast at Gmail. Just keep throwing that at you. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think we should take some ghost story night calls.
Speaker 1: You guys, Yeah, let's take some night stories. Hey, night call,
Speaker 1: This is Kate. I'm calling with a spooky story for you.
Speaker 1: That's something that has happened to me recently. In the
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, probably two weeks. Uh, I've been
Speaker 1: getting calls from a private number, so I assume someone
Speaker 1: who has I think Stars sixty seven the number, so
Speaker 1: I can't see the numbers. It's private blocked. And the
Speaker 1: first couple of times I missed it or ignored it
Speaker 1: because who answers private numbers? Um, And it never lets
Speaker 1: a message. Uh. Then finally I picked it up. I
Speaker 1: was in a car with some friends and I put
Speaker 1: on speaker just to be like, what's going on, And
Speaker 1: the first thing I hear is Hello, like the ice
Speaker 1: cream truck saying that voice that like hello, And then
Speaker 1: it starts with an ice cream truck song. I can't
Speaker 1: remember if it's the Scott Joplin song or um do
Speaker 1: your Ears sang Low? Or whatever, but anyway, it's the
Speaker 1: recording of ice cream truck and it just loops. Um.
Speaker 1: So obviously I was pretty freaked out. UM. And I
Speaker 1: kept getting the calls for the next couple of days
Speaker 1: and I only answered it like one or two more
Speaker 1: a few more times um, but each time it was
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, and luckily it just um. So
Speaker 1: then I just started ignoring them obviously. UM. And it
Speaker 1: never left a message. Uh. So that was the biggest
Speaker 1: blessing because I hate voicemails, especially creepy ice cream truck loops. Um.
Speaker 1: But so this got me thinking, Uh, if you all
Speaker 1: have ever had an experience that made you feel like
Speaker 1: you are actually trapped in a horror film. Um. But
Speaker 1: luckily the calls have actually stopped. UM. I almost hesitated
Speaker 1: to make this call because I didn't want to drink
Speaker 1: for anything. So anyway, that's my spooky story. UM, and
Speaker 1: let me know what you think. Okay, that is very disconcerting.
Speaker 1: Uh that did not go or I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to go. Yeah, that's so scary. It's terrifying, and
Speaker 1: it's so funny because we read we got a bunch
Speaker 1: of ghost stories, and some of them I feel like
Speaker 1: had more kind of like scary things, but this one
Speaker 1: was I'd stuck with so unsettling. Ice cream truck music
Speaker 1: is already a little scary, especially Hello, I mean that's
Speaker 1: how I answered the phone when I pick it up,
Speaker 1: but not yeah, not vice versa wow with me. Um,
Speaker 1: that is really scary, you know that that goes back
Speaker 1: to something that I was always really afraid of. I
Speaker 1: don't know where I would have gotten this idea from.
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe a baby a Babysitters Club book,
Speaker 1: like the second Babysitters Club book. I want to say
Speaker 1: is where there's like a phantom phone caller that's terrifying
Speaker 1: the babysitters. But the just the thing of of somebody
Speaker 1: calling and not saying anything but you can hear breathing
Speaker 1: on the line and then hanging up. That was always
Speaker 1: like a big anxiety of mine growing up. Uh did
Speaker 1: it ever happen? Yes, it did happen to me once
Speaker 1: and I was home alone and I uh I remember
Speaker 1: I remember, Oh yeah, no, that was okay, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the one, like most the most insane thing I
Speaker 1: ever did as a freaked out kid was that I
Speaker 1: was home alone. This happened to me, and I was
Speaker 1: so scared. I ran barefoot to our neighbor's house down
Speaker 1: the street, and uh, like I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: I left a note for my mom and then just
Speaker 1: like left as soon as I could, because I immediately
Speaker 1: started thinking about like, how am I going to get
Speaker 1: out of the house. We'll have to jump out of
Speaker 1: the window like all this stuff. And um, I remember
Speaker 1: my neighbor was watching Julie's Gold. Uh, and that is
Speaker 1: now my principal association with that movie, that Peter f
Speaker 1: Peter Fono movie about him being a beekeeper. Um, but
Speaker 1: the opposite of sk so lovely a lovely movie, the
Speaker 1: Gold is honey guys. Um, Yeah, there's something where Stephen
Speaker 1: King about that. Obviously, anything that's like a children's thing
Speaker 1: made spooky, it's like a clown kind of thing to us.
Speaker 1: It's reminding me also of like now I'm gonna reveal
Speaker 1: that I also I'm a huge nerd who read the
Speaker 1: Christopher Pike The Last Vampire. Oh I love Christopher Pie.
Speaker 1: Did you read those ones over the last things. They
Speaker 1: were like a little a little more violent than some
Speaker 1: of the others. Uh, they're great. And there's one where
Speaker 1: the girl who's a vampire I think, like chopped someone's
Speaker 1: head off in or somebody's head gets chopped off in
Speaker 1: an ice cream truck and the dialogue is like my
Speaker 1: favorite flavor, like cherry Red. This has stayed with me forever,
Speaker 1: so obviously there's very vivid in my mind. I actually
Speaker 1: got a call last week and it was on my
Speaker 1: landline and I picked up the phone and it was
Speaker 1: a guy who was like, you're going to go to
Speaker 1: hell when you die, and then hung up the phone
Speaker 1: and I googled the number that it had come in
Speaker 1: on and it wasn't a recording. It was a real
Speaker 1: person and it's a known thing. Um, it's a really
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a very half asked attempt
Speaker 1: at like an extortion via like kind of casually thrown
Speaker 1: together religious group. I guess it's a known scam and
Speaker 1: a note terrifying. But it was a person on It
Speaker 1: wasn't it was a person. That's so freaky because I
Speaker 1: had a happened to me over the weekend. But it
Speaker 1: was a robot call it. It was like a very
Speaker 1: robot voice, which is sometimes more scary because it sounds
Speaker 1: like how or something. Um, but telling me that I
Speaker 1: was getting sued by the I R s for blood
Speaker 1: the irs assuming it phone calls that tell you. I
Speaker 1: got some calls for a while that we're coming from
Speaker 1: like a Texas prison. That scared the hell out of me,
Speaker 1: and I found out it was a scamp. But also
Speaker 1: I was like, who do I know that would be
Speaker 1: imprisoned in Texas like calling me? And I thought about
Speaker 1: it a lot, and then I found out it was
Speaker 1: a scam. But I got some heavy breathing calls, like
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago on my cell phone, and
Speaker 1: it was like a private number, couldn't call back. They
Speaker 1: would just call and like breathe and be creepy. I
Speaker 1: would hang up, totally creep me out. And then I
Speaker 1: called the cops to be like what can I do?
Speaker 1: And they were like nothing, there's nothing we can do.
Speaker 1: They were like they just didn't care. Um, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, who's calling with the ice cream?
Speaker 1: But the ice cream truck is such a specific like
Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? That's so scary too,
Speaker 1: because anything like that, I would be like, what are
Speaker 1: you trying to tell me exactly? What does it mean?
Speaker 1: It's meant to drive you? Because if it's random, then
Speaker 1: it's still really weird. She should record it if she can,
Speaker 1: or like, yeah, I get a recording of it and
Speaker 1: like like zoom and enhance on it only with the
Speaker 1: audio version of that and find out I come up
Speaker 1: with a yeah, here's the wholesome answer is maybe it's
Speaker 1: like a child calling you from a playground. O. They're
Speaker 1: just accidentally just right there, always at the same point
Speaker 1: in the song no Way, I'll loop no Way. Well
Speaker 1: maybe maybe by us getting the word out, maybe somebody
Speaker 1: else will have gotten this too, and we can triangulate
Speaker 1: and figure out what's if you've gotten a prank call
Speaker 1: from an let us know, let us know. We're here
Speaker 1: in service of the people. Maybe it's like a spirit
Speaker 1: trying to escape from like a power Puff Girls like
Speaker 1: Popsicle or something. Set me free. If you say the
Speaker 1: right thing, don't say the right thing. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much Kate for your for your call and for giving
Speaker 1: us nightmares for the next few weeks. Um, and thank
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Speaker 1: goodbye