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Speaker 1: How was it when you landed?

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Speaker 2: Actually, like Boston was dead. I mean, Newark is how

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Speaker 2: it always is, but there were like there were protests

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Speaker 1: You know, I got off the I just came home.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Oh yeah? Do you want to do right into it?

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Speaker 2: Cause I felt like this is good convo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I we're recording, this is going to go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Tiffany that's Mandy Brown ambition. For some people,

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Speaker 2: Today, it's just Rina and I. You know, I went

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Speaker 1: It felt like the world cracked in half? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: He's not going to do that. He's just I just

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Speaker 1: The minority of voters, the minority who should we should reiterate, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been a terrorist attack, buy a refugee from

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Speaker 1: Ever, if everyone to know who, you can freaking suspend

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Speaker 1: all the white men who haven't done mass shootings in

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy because you said, it's like you're these

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Speaker 1: Well, like they say they haven't posed a threat. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You like, well, they've walked that back and they now

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Speaker 1: Why had I say to the four judges who have

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Speaker 1: this executive order made it so detainees people being detained

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Speaker 1: We're not backing down. Our voices are being heard. And

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Speaker 2: your twelve year old or whatever, you be away from

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Speaker 2: them for ninety days. You try telling your boss, oh

432
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Speaker 2: I won't to be there for three whole months. Can

433
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Speaker 2: you hold my job for me? Please?

434
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Speaker 1: And let's forget about Syria indefinite ban on them traveling

435
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Speaker 1: and they're in a civil war like their government is

436
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Speaker 1: killing them. They were just hang out until we figure

437
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Speaker 1: this out. Just hang out, you know. I mean ninety

438
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Speaker 1: days is one day. It's too much. Some people are

439
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Speaker 1: gonna go back and get killed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or where do you go if you have no

441
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Speaker 2: money coming in? Where where am I suppose am I

442
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Speaker 2: supposed to say a hotel for three months? Like like,

443
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Speaker 2: what's the plan? And just to spring this on people.

444
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like hey, get back, you know, because this

445
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Speaker 2: is going to happen. It's just so I'm like, I

446
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Speaker 2: don't know. So what are we? Just?

447
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Speaker 1: What are we? What do we do?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What I did well, other I talked to some friends yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But I did set up a recurring donation to the

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Speaker 1: a c l U. Yeah, that's something to do, which

452
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Speaker 1: they're doing like tremendous work representing the people who have

453
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Speaker 1: been detained. They're saying unconstitutionally. I think it's important if

454
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Speaker 1: you live in a state of red state Georgia, Texas, anywhere.

455
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Speaker 1: Contact your local representatives because they're representing you in Congress,

456
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Speaker 1: and they have a lot more power than they've shown

457
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Speaker 1: that they're willing to wield. Just you know, do whatever

458
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Speaker 1: you can and tell someone who's an immigrant that you

459
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Speaker 1: love them and you like they're welcome here. I mean,

460
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Speaker 1: that's the overwhelming message that I feel like we should

461
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Speaker 1: be telling everybody. I mean, Jersey City, I'm so proud

462
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Speaker 1: to live here, and I've always been proud to live

463
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Speaker 1: in Queen's Manhattan Inwood where there's such a such a

464
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Speaker 1: unique community of filled with immigrants, fill with refugees and immigrants,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, I think it's important for us

466
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Speaker 1: to just be nice to one another and to show

467
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Speaker 1: Trump that he's fucking wrong.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like when it comes time to vote, make

469
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Speaker 2: it very very clear that like we're not going to

470
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Speaker 2: have it. That the fact is that he might be

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Speaker 2: the president, but the vast majority of people have spoken

472
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Speaker 2: he did not win the popular vote. And is that

473
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Speaker 2: your local and and uh state representative are going to

474
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Speaker 2: to represent his ideas, then they will not be re elected.

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Speaker 2: Make that clear to them, because ultimately, friend, you know, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: you know that's what they want to be re elected,

477
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Speaker 2: and they they're hearing our voices, believe me, but you

478
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Speaker 2: have to we have to vote with your with your friends.

479
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Speaker 2: So I mean, on a lighter note, did you see Uber,

480
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Speaker 2: I'm just like all of the jokes with Uber.

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Speaker 1: I tried to look into it because I read all

482
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Speaker 1: the band ubers and all their celebrities banning Uber. I

483
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Speaker 1: tried to look into it. And what they did by

484
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Speaker 1: they were, you know, saying, hey, if you want to

485
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Speaker 1: get to the protests, you know, ubers are available. I

486
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Speaker 1: might be on the side of maybe people are overreacting,

487
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Speaker 1: but no.

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Speaker 2: The Uber band was because the Uber president, I forget

489
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Speaker 2: his name. The Uber president is like supposedly on some

490
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Speaker 2: sort of economic team committee or whatever with the president.

491
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Speaker 2: And then also to the Uber band came because I

492
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Speaker 2: guess when the taxi driver stood in solidarity and would

493
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Speaker 2: not bring anyone to JFK Airport in New York and

494
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Speaker 2: Uber was like, oh we will though, and so people

495
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Speaker 2: were just like, now's at the time, we need you to.

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Speaker 1: Just as opportunistic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they felt, even though they weren't like,

498
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Speaker 2: you know, they didn't charge the searches. But what was

499
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Speaker 2: really funny about the Uber.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do searge pricing. That's what I thought. It was, Oh,

501
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Speaker 1: they're doing searche pricing around the project.

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Speaker 2: It was just like and so the Uber. What I

503
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Speaker 2: guess what's making it kind of like gig delicious is that,

504
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Speaker 2: like the Uber Uber president was like, I'm not going

505
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Speaker 2: down by myself. He was like, he will some like

506
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Speaker 2: HiT's on his website. He said that, yes, And in

507
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Speaker 2: December twenty sixteen, I agreed to be on like this

508
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Speaker 2: committee to help to advise the president because I feel like,

509
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Speaker 2: although I don't agree with all his policies, I feel like,

510
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Speaker 2: you know, we have to basically have a seat at

511
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Speaker 2: the table me alongside of name company name company names. Yo.

512
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Speaker 2: Everybody was like, so now they're all these memes like Yo,

513
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Speaker 2: Uber's snitched like I'm not going down by myself. They're

514
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Speaker 2: like Tesla and such and such from Tesla, like he

515
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Speaker 2: named executive names and their company. I'm like, yeah, do

516
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Speaker 2: all that, brother. So that's what's like the lightheartedness of

517
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Speaker 2: like the whole oberban. I'm like, wow, he was like

518
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Speaker 2: if I'm going down. And then of course Lift, what

519
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Speaker 2: Lift made a Swiss move was like, just so we're clear,

520
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Speaker 2: we're not here for it. If you want to upload lifts,

521
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Speaker 2: you can. You know, we don't have anything to do

522
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Speaker 2: with this current president policies. And you know, we're actually

523
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Speaker 2: going to donate a million dollars to ac LU. What

524
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Speaker 2: lift is going hard?

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Speaker 1: Well, they did announce their donating three million dollars. Uber

526
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Speaker 1: pledges to donate three million dollars. Oh, but Uber is

527
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Speaker 1: pledging to donate three million dollars to drivers affected by

528
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Speaker 1: the immigration ban they're trying. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if deleting Uber is what we should

530
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Speaker 1: do to you know, if that's like a powerful move

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Speaker 1: and all this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I guess. You know, it seemed like

533
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Speaker 2: a powerful move until you kind of saw the list.

534
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, snitchy, snitchy, But it made you

535
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Speaker 2: realize that, like, okay, we have to figure out how

536
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Speaker 2: to where to really concentrate our energy. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know that, like, you know, like it seemed like a

538
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Speaker 2: good idea at the time that and I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: it's not a good idea, but I'm saying that, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now that you see a list, Tesla's on there. You're

541
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Speaker 2: never going to get that car. I think Disney was

542
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Speaker 2: on there. You're never going to watch a Disney movie.

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Speaker 2: I think Starbucks was on there. Are you never going

544
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Speaker 2: to eat stuff? You know?

545
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Speaker 1: Or people were calling on Starbucks to ban Starbucks? You

546
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Speaker 1: know what I still feel like, And I keep going

547
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Speaker 1: back to this when we talk about these issues. You know,

548
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Speaker 1: terrorism is an issue, and like I said earlier, I'm

549
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: more afraid of mass shootings by mentally ill people. I mean,

550
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Speaker 1: we let twenty six children die and did nothing afterward.

551
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Speaker 1: So for me, that's that's still the thing. Standy Hook

552
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Speaker 1: is forever like that is probably the most impactful tragedy

553
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Speaker 1: that you know that happened on a national scale to me,

554
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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget it. And I feel like until

555
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: we do something to fix that, you know, everything else

556
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Speaker 1: can just sort of everything else is small and pointless.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I'm gonna That's what I do. I

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Speaker 1: support organizations that fight for gun control, and I support

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Speaker 1: now I'm a new supporter of the ACLU planned parent

560
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Speaker 1: and I've always supported and media I don't. I just

561
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Speaker 1: want to you know, I'm biased. I'm a journalist, but

562
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: like we need journalism more than ever ever, courageous journalists

563
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Speaker 1: who are not who are not bowing down to calls

564
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Speaker 1: from our own own White House to shut up and

565
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Speaker 1: to sit down and be quiet. No, no, this is

566
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Speaker 1: the last. This is a moment in history where we

567
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: never needed journalism more. We need people out there checking

568
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Speaker 1: these facts and pointing out the lies and digging and

569
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Speaker 1: asking those.

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Speaker 2: Questions that when the oh who is it the press secretary?

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Speaker 2: I guess he was being questions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the boys call him Adobo, it's my favor.

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Speaker 2: When they asked him, they were like, well, you know,

574
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Speaker 2: he said, you know, the president sat down with Martin

575
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Speaker 2: Luther King Junior, so he's a civil rights leader. They're like, actually, sir,

576
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Speaker 2: according to the way history works, you freaking idiot, he's

577
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Speaker 2: not a civil rights leader. His problem with civil rights leader.

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Speaker 2: He's Martin Luther King the third or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Like, but like is deceased, assassinated.

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Speaker 2: And probably rolling over his daggon grave right now because

581
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Speaker 2: of what's happening. I'm like, do you not like that?

582
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Speaker 2: To me? It's just so crazy. And he's a civil

583
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Speaker 2: rights leader, are you what, Sarah, No, No, that's not

584
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Speaker 2: what's happening. He was a civil rights a reader leader.

585
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Speaker 2: He's no longer here, but I ask you not to

586
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Speaker 2: decimate his name by wrapping your lips around it. I couldn't.

587
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Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, I think you mean his father.

588
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: He said, oh yeah, well the son, and the son

589
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: has done some things. Yeah.

590
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Speaker 1: He tweeted out his Twitter password the level of incompetence

591
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: for this, for his the staff surrounding an already buffoon,

592
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: like it's like the blind leading the blind and girl,

593
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Speaker 1: I'm scared, but I want to end Buzzworthy on a

594
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Speaker 1: semi I tried to, but I feel like we should

595
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: extend another big hug to our listeners who are of

596
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: whatever faith you are. We love you. Yes, you're welcome.

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00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you're probably here already. But and go

598
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Speaker 1: out there and fight the good fight. And if you want,

599
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Speaker 1: I'll put a list of some organizations that you know

600
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Speaker 1: I support, if you have some dad too that you support,

601
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: and just you know, get out there, make a sign,

602
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: talk to a talk to someone, call your mother, have

603
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: an your heart conversation.

604
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Speaker 2: You don't have to you don't have to battle it

605
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: every day. Like it's okay to turn it off, it's

606
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: okay to watch a funny movie. And laugh and like

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Speaker 2: go out to eat like you don't have to. I

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Speaker 2: don't want people to like stay steeped in the negativity

609
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: all day long. It's not good for you.

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Speaker 1: But still be informed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sure, balance.

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Speaker 1: Murca, how do we go on? So I'm broken right now,

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Speaker 1: I have to say, like, physically, I'm gonna take I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take a brown break from my body right now, okay,

615
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Speaker 1: because I hurt my back really bad on Friday and

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Speaker 1: I am posted up against a slab of ice right

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Speaker 1: now trying to ice my back. It's so bad. Likesfit, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't do CrossFit. What's funny is I did CrossFit

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Speaker 1: this summer and everyone was like, oh no, you're gonna

620
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Speaker 1: hurt yourself. Oh no, I've heard the worst things. Completely fine.

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Speaker 1: I went to a vintage step a step class aerobics

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Speaker 1: class on Thursday. I know, well, I wanted. I was

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Speaker 1: just so sick of the treadmill, and so I wanted.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't want to spend like thirty dollars on

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Speaker 1: a workout class like they'd be trying to charge in

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Speaker 1: New York City, and so I found a local gym

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Speaker 1: in my area. They do like group exercise classes. And

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Speaker 1: I was looking for zoomba, but they only had step

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Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I did that in college,

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Speaker 1: Like that's fine. It was stepped and sculped, and it

631
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Speaker 1: was very light on the stepping and very heavy on

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Speaker 1: the sculpting. And I think that just the temple of

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Speaker 1: the music and the way the instructor was moving. I

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Speaker 1: tweak something going, trying to go too fast and keep up,

635
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Speaker 1: and my it's just getting worse every day, and I

636
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Speaker 1: am like, it's so I had to It's hard. It

637
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Speaker 1: hurts to sit, it hurts to lay down. I don't

638
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Speaker 1: know what to do. I've been icing. I think I

639
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: might need to go see it. Car a doctor, yeah,

640
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Speaker 1: Afrae like, I don't. I don't. I don't know. I

641
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Speaker 1: googled it and either I pulled a muscle or I

642
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Speaker 1: have bone cancer.

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Speaker 2: You are such a millennial.

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Speaker 1: I really don't want bone cancer. I really don't want it,

645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: but I could, though you don't. I saw that movie

646
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: with Joseph Gordon Levitt and Sean and shoot, who's the

647
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: other guy? Where at fifty to fifty where he has

648
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: sack about a young guy who has back pain and

649
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: then he has back sarcoma or something like that.

650
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't want that. You just pulled something and you

651
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: probably need some icing and some stretching, and you know, so.

652
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: I've been I've been doing that. I've been to I'm

653
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: on the giant ice pack right now. But it's messing

654
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: off my whole workout schedule. And you know, when you

655
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: really get in a good groove when you're working out,

656
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and I've been going like multiple I've been going almost

657
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: every morning and like working out, and I feel so

658
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: much better. And it sucks because I'm like, oh man,

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna get out of shape. I probably have

660
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: to rest for the next week. Well, I'll get out

661
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: of my schedule. I have to start over. I finally

662
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: got up to where I can run a five k

663
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: and I have to have wedding to get in shape

664
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: for Universe.

665
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know, really starting start in the kitchen, so just.

666
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I know, well, I want to eat healthy, but my

667
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Hello Fresh order is downstairs. I couldn't lift it, so

668
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Really, it's too heavy. I have to

669
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: wait for fiance to come home and bring up the box. Yeah,

670
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: it's it's bad. It's bad. So if you see me

671
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: gimping around the city, give me a pat not too hard.

672
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to take a brown booth to teamwork

673
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: makes the dream work to like just yeah, just team

674
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean this weekend was hard. I mean flying out

675
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: to Atlanta.

676
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Tell people about this because up until like last week,

677
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: you weren't sure you were you were going to have

678
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: this party, right yeah.

679
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: So it's usually it's simplically simple. So every January we

680
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 2: had to live at your challenge. You know, y'all know

681
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: that Magnify Money was our sponsor this year. They were great,

682
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: and so after the challenge is over, we celebrate. I

683
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: usually have just a simple like party, and so I

684
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: usually have it in Jersey, super easy. I call my

685
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: friend Tammy. Tammy has a great like lounge kind of

686
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: restaurant in Newark right across from the huge Prudential Stadium

687
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: called Taste Venue. It's super cute inside and it's free.

688
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: Well she lets me use it for free. But y'all come,

689
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: we eat that. You know, you buy your own drinks

690
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: and food. But we have a good time. So literally,

691
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: people just come, we dance and that's it, and I

692
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: might do like a little mini speech and then they

693
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: go home. So I was like, oh, you know what,

694
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: this year, let me get fancy and have it in

695
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: a different state because I always have it in Jersey,

696
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: and let me not be lazy. So I said, oh,

697
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: I'll have it. Let me look at my numbers. Let's

698
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: see where we have the largest number of Dreamcatchers our tribe.

699
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: And so the number said Georgia. And I said, okay,

700
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Georgia will come to you. You know, so like a month.

701
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: In advance, I found out. Wait, sorry, so I know

702
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I found it. One of my college friends is of

703
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: one of your literature dream catchers. I thought that was

704
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: really good. So she's listening to Mercedes see you.

705
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so I was like, okay, Georgia. You

706
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: know Atlanta because you know when you think of Georgia

707
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: and you think of Atlanta for the most part, and

708
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm thinking everything's great. Were rich. Initially

709
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: had a hotel that was we were going to do it,

710
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: but then it was too pricey. We called around a

711
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: lot of places in Atlanta and it was just like

712
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: kind of expensive because I wanted to do two parties.

713
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: I wanted to just meet up at a lounge and

714
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: then I wanted to do like a private small brunch

715
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: with just a small group of Dreamcatchers. So we scrapped

716
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: the lounge idea because oddly enough, no lounges like wanted us.

717
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: They wanted us to come, of course, but they wanted

718
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: me to pay. I'm like, yeah, but like if we

719
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: just show up the people just eat your food and

720
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: buy your drinks, isn't that good? No, we want you

721
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: to put down on three thousand dollars. So whatever, So

722
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: we we were finding I mean, every time I thought,

723
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: I found a place that fell through, and we had

724
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: a restaurant that fell through literally days before the event

725
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: was going to be had, and I didn't know what

726
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: we were going to do. So finally the Dreamcatchers in Uhlanta, Georgia,

727
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: they they like basically put out the bat signal and

728
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: everybody all hands on deck. So we ended up finding

729
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: this awesome place. The woman who was like the coordinator

730
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: was a DreamCatcher herself, and she like you know, gave

731
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: us the place and a like market rate, you know,

732
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: like really low, Like the rate was really low, and

733
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: so it ended up being so beautiful. I can't take

734
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: the place because I have sponsorships with the opposite places,

735
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. So I'm like, I

736
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: would love to like shout them out, but I'm like,

737
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna best some my money. So it was

738
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: so beautiful where we had it. It was just so nice.

739
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: The food was great. About one hundred and fifty dream

740
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: Catchers came out and I posted the pictures on social media.

741
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: The cake looked amazing.

742
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Who yes they made they did, like the Dreamcatchers out there,

743
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: they did. Yes, they bought the k Well they didn't

744
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: make it, they bought the cake. It was just, honestly,

745
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: it was like we spent the whole night before up

746
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: until like one o'clock in the morning. Dreamcatchers came to

747
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: my hotel room and helped me pack the boxes because

748
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I gave gift boxes to all dream Catchers with my

749
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: book and some of my favorite things in these cute

750
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: little gift boxes. They picked them up from the hotel

751
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: and like just set up the location so I could

752
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: like get my makeup done all that kind of stuff.

753
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: I came into, like the location totally set up by Dreamcatchers,

754
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: and it was just it was, honestly, it was I

755
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: was stressed up out until like I came to the

756
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: room and everything was beautiful and people were waiting, like

757
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: they got there early. I mean people had driven hours.

758
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: People came from other states South Carolina to Atlanta to

759
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: come to this event, and so it was just it

760
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: was awesome. They got to mingle with each other and

761
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: we had a really good time. I have to say

762
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: it exceeded my expectations because I was like, honestly, the

763
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: day before, I was like, I'm never doing this again.

764
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: This is too much stress. I'm never doing again. And

765
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: then after the event was over, I said, oh, I'm

766
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: going to do this again. I loved it.

767
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I have one question, though, do they do weddings? Can

768
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: y'all meet me in Savannah?

769
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: And just I honestly, Mandy. First of all, they made

770
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: me this beautiful plaque, like I've gotten awards before, and

771
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: you know sometimes people are like they skip on like

772
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: the materials for awards. No, this flag is like five

773
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: pounds heavy and it's so beautiful and so has like

774
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: an appreciation for you. Tiffany's budgeris staff all that you've done,

775
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: and it just was excellent. I mean, and just to

776
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: see my team, I mean, like everybody knows like Dream

777
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: is my publicist, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, so I've

778
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: known dream of my whole life, like since I was

779
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: like nine or whatever. But to see her in action,

780
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: and because typically, you know, a publicist, a lot of

781
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: the stuff that she does I don't see because she'll

782
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: just pitch me behind the scenes and I won't know

783
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: until she says, hey, what are you doing next Tuesday?

784
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: The re'll want you to come, you know, and I'm

785
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: like okay, So I don't really get to see her

786
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: in action. But to see her in action at an event,

787
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: like managing the lines, managing registration, managing, like just managing

788
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: all of the components, I was like, WHOA, she's good.

789
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: I really was really looking at her, like what it

790
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: went so smoothly. I hate to go to an event

791
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: where you're like, clearly disorganized. Not this at all, even

792
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: though on the inside we were crazy. It was read

793
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 2: so smoothly. Everything was like in order, boom boom boom boom.

794
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: Even the picture taking line, like you know, in the end,

795
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: everybody wants to take a selfie and I'm like sure,

796
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: she said nope. She told everybody we're not going to

797
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: take cell phone pictures. Instead, we have a professional photographer.

798
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: He's gonna take everyone's picture. If you want to take

799
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: one with Tiffany and then we're going to share the

800
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: link with you tomorrow, so you could just download your picture.

801
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: How genius. And I was like, ah, that way it

802
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: took instead of taking you know, an hour and a

803
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: half to take pictures with everyone, who was like thirty minutes,

804
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: you know. And so yeah, it was just really great.

805
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Like even like the book sales. She sold all we

806
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: sold out of books and when I by the time

807
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: I got there, like the people who bought them, she

808
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: had written their name inside the book and so all

809
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: I had to do was write, Oh, to Mandy, thank

810
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: you so much, Live Richard, Tiffany, and like their name

811
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: was already in the book, and I just thought, wow,

812
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: this is she's good. So just to Brown Boost to teamwork,

813
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: thank you so much to the Georgia. The DreamCatcher chapter admins,

814
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: you guys were amazing. She Tamika like I owe you.

815
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: Like when I saw Temika, I said to Meka, are

816
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: you pregnant? This woman had six kids and was pregnant,

817
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: and like planning this whole thing with her teams.

818
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: They don't ask someone that, no, Because she was just like.

819
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: And I'm like, my god, yes, and so she they

820
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: would just I'm like, I can't even get myself together

821
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: and it's just me basically let alone, six kids, a husband,

822
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: and a baby in a belly. So yeah, just brown

823
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: boost to that because it was just a testament to

824
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: women can do anything. I can do anything, and I

825
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: can't wait to take it.

826
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: And that's all because of you know, you've report you

827
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: sow and you've sown all these seeds of you know,

828
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: community and supporting women, lifting women up, and you just

829
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, you deserve all that. I feel like you

830
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: deserve that sort of treatment from your your your crew.

831
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: I keep calling them your tribe, your dream catchers.

832
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just like I said. It was

833
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: just it was weird because I'm used to going to

834
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: an event and being like, oh, this is like Magnified

835
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: Money's event, So I'll come sit on a panel, then

836
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: I go back and sit down to eat my food,

837
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: you know. So it was so weird to be like,

838
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: they're no, Tiffany, They're here because you're here. It just

839
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: was so man, I can't even explain. I'm like, wait,

840
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: are you guys here for me? Wait?

841
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: What it just thought you wanted to be Oprah? Come on, yes,

842
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: you used to it.

843
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: Just a real moment you're like, wow, these people actually

844
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: came from me and drove and put on cute outfits

845
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: and like wanted to take pictures and really, yeah, it

846
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: just it just was awesome. And so yeah, Dreamcatchers, love y'all.

847
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: Brown boost to women and teamwork and community and just

848
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: you guys are brown, Brown ambition personified.

849
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Yay. That warms my little heart, my cold, my cold, dead,

850
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: shriveled heart whose mother doesn't love me anymore.

851
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: No, she'll be back, you know what I mean. I

852
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: I really want you to come back and share, because

853
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm when you love someone, now you can speak to

854
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: her from a place of like, Okay, this is someone

855
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: who I love and I care about. Let me really

856
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Speaker 1: Me too, also, I just want to enjoy Celine Dion.

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869
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Speaker 1: Ask us anything? Just ask us anything?

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895
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Speaker 1: And so today's question we have a lot of good ones.

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Speaker 1: You guys, keep them coming. Today's question is from Angelique,

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Speaker 1: company to write off your debt, which essentially writes off

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Speaker 1: your obligation to pay. It said you can dispute stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: wait for it. It says you can dispute stuff on

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Speaker 1: your report, citing that the contract was canceled. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: this sounds a bit too good to be true, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's something we're not hearing. Would you be

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Speaker 1: able to clear up any confusion around this excellent question,

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Speaker 1: Big misconception very common.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I saw this post and Dreamcatchers, it's getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of heat, and so we have to go

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Speaker 2: and because I like for people to post it, because

912
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Speaker 2: the people gave the correct answer in the comments most people.

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Speaker 2: So let's just say I borrow money from Mandy, right,

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Speaker 2: and I owe Mandy. I owe Mandy, I never pay Mandy.

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Speaker 2: Mandy then sells it to her brother. Now, Mandy selling

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Speaker 2: it to her brother does not erase the fact that

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Speaker 2: I still owe money. I might not owe Mandy, but

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Speaker 2: I still feel oh and so that's not true. So

919
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Speaker 2: now this is what can happen. This happened to my friend.

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Speaker 2: So she owed she had a mortgage with the bank.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, you know bank, bad bank. She had

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Speaker 2: a mortgage with bad bank, and bad bank sold her

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Speaker 2: mortgage to Okay Bank. And so in that transaction, so

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Speaker 2: as long as they have made the transaction from selling

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Speaker 2: selling that her debt her mortgage to the other bank,

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Speaker 2: as long as that transaction is legal, like they fill

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Speaker 2: out the paperwork that no you owe, you owe Okay Bank.

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Speaker 2: That's how it goes now. But she was fortunate enough

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Speaker 2: in that she was a lawyer. They went to bank.

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Speaker 2: They went to court. Okay Bank took her to court

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Speaker 2: to say, hey, give us her money or give us

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Speaker 2: your house. And she said, well, prove to me that

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Speaker 2: you owe my debt. Now, Okay Mortgage did not have

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Speaker 2: to pay work on them. George I said, come back

935
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Speaker 2: in a week. Came back, still didn't have the paperwork.

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Speaker 2: Okay Bank could not find the transfer paperwork because a

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Speaker 2: lot of times debt is sold in bulk, meaning like

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Speaker 2: they're not selling one mortgage at a time from bank

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Speaker 2: to debt collector. They're typically selling hundreds, maybe thousands in bulk,

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Speaker 2: and so they could not find that transfer paperwork. So

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Speaker 2: being a lawyer, most people would never think the asset.

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Speaker 2: And she told the just it is not unreasonable for

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Speaker 2: me to ask for proof that you owe that you

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Speaker 2: own my debt, because how do I know I'm paying

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Speaker 2: the right people.

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Speaker 1: It's a ver very poortant point because people don't know

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Speaker 1: that they can. You can ask for a deat verification letter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when you get a part, it's critical.

949
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's super important because a lot of companies

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Speaker 1: don't keep track and that lack of that's such a reisations.

951
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Speaker 2: That people might be referring to so then yeah, so

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Speaker 2: let's just say so she ended up having the house.

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Speaker 2: Basically she's in limbo because bank, okay, bank cannot find

954
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Speaker 2: the paperwork. Bad bank has sold her, has sold her debt,

955
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Speaker 2: but to whom there's no paperwork to say, So guess what,

956
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Speaker 2: she has the house clear and free and she's just

957
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Speaker 2: been in it for years, like not paying anyone. Isn't

958
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Speaker 2: that crazy? And so, but so that's like, but that's

959
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Speaker 2: not a typical loophole typically, like they have the paperwork

960
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Speaker 2: to show, so, because that's like saying, yeah, it's just

961
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Speaker 2: you still owe. So if you should ask, you should

962
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Speaker 2: always ask for a verification letter when the person that

963
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Speaker 2: you originally owed is not the person contacting you. That is,

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Speaker 2: You're right, you want to make sure because there are

965
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Speaker 2: there are people out there who will pretend that they've

966
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Speaker 2: been sold your debt and take your money. So it's

967
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Speaker 2: within your right and you ought to say, hey, I

968
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Speaker 2: want a verification letter, just verify for me that you

969
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Speaker 2: now old this debt before proceeding forward. So that's nothing

970
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: crazy about that. But no, just the fact that them

971
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Speaker 2: selling it doesn't mean the contract is over. No, it

972
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Speaker 2: means the contract has been transferred to somebody else.

973
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Speaker 1: And we always give this warning too. Sometimes I think

974
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Speaker 1: people think this doesn't mean like you're always going to

975
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Speaker 1: owe that debt. The question of whether or not the

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Speaker 1: debt collections agency, whoever owns the debt, can sue you

977
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: for that unpaid debt, now, that is a question that

978
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Speaker 1: sometimes can work in your favor if the debt has

979
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Speaker 1: passed the statue of limitations in your state. And we

980
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Speaker 1: said it a million times, but I'll say it again.

981
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: So when you get that debt verification letter, it'll it

982
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: should have the age of the debt or when the

983
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: debt was incurred, and based on that you can determine

984
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: whether or not there's a legal implication for you not

985
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: continuing to pay that debt and make a decision and

986
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Speaker 1: be weary of debt collections firms that try to get

987
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: you to make even just a small payment or five dollars,

988
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: ten dollars twenty today, and they'll get off your back

989
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: because by doing that, if your debt has passed your

990
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: state's statue limitations, you could be restarting the clock completely

991
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: and giving them that all they need to take you

992
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: to court and sue you.

993
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Yep, and garnish your wages. You know, some people can

994
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: even snatch refund checks depending on who you owe. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: so youh.

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00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Security up to us. I think fifteen percent of social

997
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: security can be garnished. You don't want to mess around

998
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: with that collectors.

999
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: And so you know what I might do for the

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Speaker 2: DreamCatcher group, because that post has been like floating around

1001
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Speaker 2: for the last few days. I might have one of

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Speaker 2: my credit expert friends, Nativa heard she's a frugal credit

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Speaker 2: mess so, so she was the education sponsor for the

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Speaker 2: Literature Challenge credit edition. She made sure that because Nativa

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Speaker 2: does credit all day every day, she's like the she's

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Speaker 2: the credit credit Nissa, frugal credit Nissa. But what I

1007
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Speaker 2: like about Nativa is that that she is how I

1008
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: approach helping women with basic financial education, is how she

1009
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: approaches helping folks with basic credit education. Meaning she approaches

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00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: it with kindness, she approaches it with people over profit,

1011
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: like that kind of thing. So I might have her

1012
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: come and clear it up because she's a really good

1013
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: educator and teacher as well, because I don't want people

1014
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, my dad was so I don't know,

1015
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: because honestly, ask yourself this. If it was that easy,

1016
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't we all be debt free? Like?

1017
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Honestly, people are always looking for a loop. People want

1018
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: to dispute. They want to dispute positive true, true negative

1019
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: information on their report. You did it. You know you

1020
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Speaker 1: did it, and it's illegal to say you didn't do it.

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00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, and I'm not saying that because

1022
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean I've seen people dispute true things. They fall

1023
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Speaker 2: and off. Yeah, that can happen. But honestly, is that

1024
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: really how you how you want to live your life?

1025
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, I really do believe in karmic energy, so

1026
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, you want to do right so you can

1027
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: get right, you know, pay who you owe and and

1028
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: and you know, do right by your money and it'll

1029
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: do right by you. But yeah, good question. Woo.

1030
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Speaker 1: I just checked our iTunes reviews. We have fifty new

1031
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Speaker 2: Y'all. Y'all is kind, y'all is so much. I would

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1034
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Speaker 2: more like Kirsten Dunson. I interviewed with the vampire.

1035
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Speaker 1: Brad pit Tom Tom Cruise vampires please leave us more reviews.

1037
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I can't wait to check our ratings. And

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Speaker 1: you guys just help us so much to be sure

1039
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1040
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: out there. You help us not fall into the iTunes

1041
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: black hole that iTunes can be and help people find us.

1042
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: So it's just super important that you leave reviews. And

1043
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Speaker 1: for those of you who have, thank you so much.

1044
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: For those of you who haven't, I don't you know,

1045
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come knocking on your door, but I

1046
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1047
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Speaker 2: We just asked that you leave us great reviews because

1048
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Speaker 2: you guys have already done an amazing job. Just thank

1049
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: you so much, honestly, and share us. You know, there's

1050
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: not too many brown podcasters out there, and that's not

1051
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: it should not be. So you know, Mandy's self taught

1052
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: like I just come here and I'm like, hey, guys,

1053
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: but you know, Mandy taught herself how to edit, how

1054
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Speaker 2: to like all of the nuances behind the scenes. And

1055
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Speaker 2: you know, Mandy's smart, I guess, but not smarter than you.

1056
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Speaker 1: You can do it too, thanks, And if you want

1057
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Speaker 1: to know how to leave a review, just google it.

1058
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Speaker 1: Google has all the answers.

1059
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Speaker 2: Yes it does.

1060
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Speaker 1: I mean can't tell me if I have bone cancer

1061
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Speaker 1: or not, but it probably can tell you how to

1062
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: leave a review.

1063
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Speaker 2: Yes it can. It's on there, I promise.

1064
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Speaker 1: Are you ready for some wins?

1065
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: Let's see. I would just say my win is just Atlanta.

1066
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much Georgia for looking after me and

1067
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Speaker 2: making sure that I was good, and just you know,

1068
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: for my team for stepping up, and not just my

1069
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: team in Atlanta, but my team at home. Like I

1070
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: while I was there doing that, they were taking handling

1071
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: business and twenty sixteen taught me this major lesson that

1072
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: let let people do what they're good at. Like I

1073
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: finally stopped trying to micromanage everything, and I just trust

1074
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: that my team is doing what they're good at, what

1075
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: I hire them for, and they are. So yeah, that's my.

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Speaker 1: I want to get a part of my win to

1077
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: Atlanta too, because the Falcons are in the Bleep, Bleep

1078
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which is amazing. Ten year old Mandy who

1079
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: wore her dirty Bird T shirt to fifth grade lunch

1080
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: every day and did the Dirty Bird with her friends,

1081
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: like all two of them, and the cafeteria is so

1082
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: excited and my baby brother just bought a ticket to go.

1083
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: He's going to the Super Bowl, and he and my

1084
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: dad were at the game together and that was just

1085
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: a phenomenal moment for them. So I'm excited for I'm

1086
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: almost excited more for them than for like Atlanta or me,

1087
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: just because my brother and my dad loved the Falcons

1088
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: so much. The other part of my win, I just

1089
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: want to give a win to my everyone, all of

1090
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: my friends, my family might soon to be Dominican family.

1091
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Everyone who was an immigrant, has immigrant family, refugees came

1092
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: to America. I made the most of it. Just I

1093
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: want to make you guys my win and let you

1094
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: know that I won't stand for any in this nonsense,

1095
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: and that you know, the most we can do, I think,

1096
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: is just to be nice to each other and to

1097
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: be welcome and to prove to the world that we

1098
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: aren't who our elected officials may think that we are.

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00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: So that's it. A win for inclusion, A.

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Speaker 2: Win for inclusion. We love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Hugs,