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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can stay married to her.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes when you go to a certain kind

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Speaker 2: where you're just getting spanked left right.

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Speaker 1: And maybe you're like cuffed and uh chained to the ground,

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Speaker 1: it's a little confusing. Do I stay in a relationship?

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Speaker 1: Do I fuck thirty people at once? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: you do what they call the circular elephant walk where

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Speaker 1: everyone is connected either penis to butt or vagina to

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Speaker 1: finger right, and then it's like all like one circle

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Speaker 1: together and you're just like basically hooking up with thirty

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Speaker 1: people at one time. Wow, but it's just like one

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Speaker 1: one circle of pure fuck energy.

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Speaker 2: How beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nature. Me and my wife Kara Kara Korea

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Speaker 1: have been made for four years now. I think it's Karra.

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Speaker 2: Me and my wife Kim Jong un.

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Speaker 1: An arranged marriage, but so far we've had a good

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Speaker 1: marriage and a strong bond. Yeah, we love arranged marriages

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Speaker 1: on this show.

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Speaker 2: How how strong is the bond?

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty strong, But you just want to

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, that's Bond James Bond.

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Speaker 1: Ah. I love her and would do anything for her

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Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye. But before we got married,

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Speaker 1: we decided that we will have to have our individual

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Speaker 1: unless we feel the other person should definitely know. That

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Speaker 1: is a interesting rule because I think maybe someone's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: A fair I don't need to know about that.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I don't want to overburden my partner with

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Speaker 2: Of course there's too much information.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go on, those are my nook and crannies or

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Speaker 1: whatever I stuff in there, whether it be your Italian

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Speaker 2: Who's to know?

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Speaker 1: Who's to know? It's mine, it's my business. The arrangement

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Speaker 1: went well for years. I didn't have much to hide

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Speaker 1: we go. The juicy dates, some juice. When I met

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Speaker 2: How dare you try to improve yourself?

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Speaker 1: I want to know what juice is in the past.

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Speaker 2: Get your morals and get them out of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, give me, give me the playlist of

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Speaker 1: those OnlyFans videos. Yeah, come on, I wanna, I wanna.

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Speaker 1: I want to experience that. She told me some details

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Speaker 2: How dare you you dated two people like college? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Even after we got married, she would tell me some

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Speaker 1: She always refers to her college self in third person,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was dropping puss lift and right.

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Speaker 1: Oh guya walk past bumped into me, says to me,

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Speaker 1: Since then, she has been more devoted to religion, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen some pictures and videos and car is nothing

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think, Cara sounds like fun. Yeah, personally,

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Speaker 1: I am the only person she shares her thoughts with

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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem healthy. A few months ago, out of

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Speaker 2: Al right, there we go, bring it back.

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Speaker 1: Carl was conflicted about going to the party, but I

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Speaker 1: CARAA was dressed very conservatively, light makeup and very little jewelry.

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Speaker 1: Her friends from college were dressed the exact opposites. They

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Speaker 2: This guy sounds like such a freaking grandpa.

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Speaker 3: I like, also, tweens cool your jets, buddy, it's weird.

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Speaker 2: Or they're rocking like whatever, like like a emo band

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Speaker 2: like Green Day, Yeah, like Raccoon mass Scara.

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Speaker 1: The night started normally about the girl sharing funny tales,

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Speaker 1: They were just having fun in college.

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Speaker 1: No, maybe not. Cara isn't as cool as I thought.

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Speaker 1: Nah that I wanted to leave, but I couldn't find Kara.

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Speaker 1: She started praying for six to eight hours every day.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Damn, woman is intense. Her daily prayers and rituals usually

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Speaker 2: That is wild.

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Speaker 1: I thought that giving her space would help her heel

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked much since then. She still cuddles up

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Speaker 1: of her life to repent for her former sins. Oh oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I see why you're coming to read it. For these problems.

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Speaker 2: Man, what can I do?

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Speaker 1: What can I do? Man's balls are are inflating minute.

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Speaker 2: By minute, bluer than the great blue sky above us.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, I feel for you. I feel for you.

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Speaker 1: Just know that after a certain amount of time we're

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Speaker 2: Bro, that's not great.

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Speaker 1: I have tried talking to her about therapy, but she

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Speaker 2: Damn Rod, that's from that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I gonna lie. I'm not gonna chugar go in. That's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I ruined my near perfect life by forcing her to

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Speaker 1: go to that party. Okay, so there is a big update.

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Speaker 1: It's juicy, but let us know, like what all right?

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Speaker 1: First of all, all right, for all our sexually active people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know you're you're in relationships committed and it's still

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Speaker 2: That's a tricky one.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I guess I'll pass it to you John

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Speaker 2: Oh how did I get this? I guess I'm done?

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Speaker 2: I mean? It's it's and like op, I'm I'm making

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's why like you get you know,

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Speaker 1: I just like I don't like making love is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some religions are like you must have exactly Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's some there's some places

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Speaker 1: But I also think like she just went through something

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Speaker 1: I think she's not thinking necessary. Maybe she is thinking clearly.

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Speaker 2: Is op the a hole for his decisions? Is Kara

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Speaker 1: You tell us, Yeah, you let us know what you think,

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Speaker 2: That are our biggest fans are public subscribers. We're going

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Speaker 2: So we have a few comments from the video. My

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Speaker 2: They are never gonna pay back the money to OP.

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Speaker 2: If they can pay it back OP in a few months,

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Speaker 1: Read it in the next episode We Love You.

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Speaker 2: My fiance started making more money than me, Swat calling

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Speaker 1: Okop? You might be the ale like if you're that

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Speaker 1: I must make all the money, man, I provide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Your car just goes you know oo and then woo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like it's like walking on his tires.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking about those like those low riding cars.

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Speaker 1: You know. In Venice, like they like ride around them

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Speaker 2: No, in the mission in San Francisco, they would have

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean even a two story garage apartment in

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It just makes it so much and even even me,

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00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: like I would say my rent is like people would

438
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: consider cheap normal.

439
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: I would say it.

440
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: I would say it's like light below. What do you

441
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: think is cheap rent in LA? I think the average

442
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: is like fifteen hundred, And what are you paying?

443
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: Fifteen hundred?

444
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: No, I'm paying twelve hundred.

445
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: Twelve hundred okay, yeah, okay, no, that makes sense.

446
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I think people when they go and

447
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: they kind of get like a you know, kind of

448
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: semi starter apartment like in the West Side, like they

449
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: don't go super cheap, but they also don't go super crazy,

450
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: probably like multiple rooms. I think it's like fifteen hundred.

451
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean that totally makes sense. Yeah, that totally makes sense. Yeah.

452
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: Here, I am paid six hundred. Let's go. Yeah, smart,

453
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: smart boy and I pitch in and we pitch in

454
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: for the electric and the internet so we could save

455
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: money for our own place and the wedding. Smart financial moves.

456
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: My fiance earns more than me, and that's cool. Oh,

457
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm proud of her. Great, it's all good. I mean,

458
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: how much more?

459
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: And I wonder what, like, like, I wonder what the

460
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: they're actually making.

461
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm very curious. I don't know if we ever find out.

462
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: Because like seven hundred bucks a month is super cheap, dude.

463
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: That's nothing. Split between two people. Yeah, three one hundred

464
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars a month and you're late.

465
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: No no, no no no, yeah, you're chilling.

466
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: No no, no no no. Before we moved in together,

467
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: it always seemed like she was living paycheck to paycheck,

468
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: and I just chalked it up to the nice apartment

469
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: she had prior, which had inanely high rent.

470
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Right.

471
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: She stuck to the fifty to fifty agreement at first, oh,

472
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: at first concerning bills, but she missed paying often and

473
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: I would have to remind her about it.

474
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: Come on pay on time. The worst is like when

475
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: you venmo request someone and they say they're gonna pay

476
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: you and they just don't.

477
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: There's very few things on this planet that irked me

478
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: more than that. One time I had someone not only

479
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: not only did she get a meal like on me

480
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: for like all of them will be back, she got

481
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: a meal for a second person who was not there

482
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: to bring to them later. We go to the place later,

483
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: they didn't even touch the food, and she never paid

484
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: me fifty dollars at adam, Dude, I was so pissed.

485
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: You don't even know it.

486
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: Double meal on John's dime?

487
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do. But now post engagement, she's

488
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: back living paycheck to paycheck, either missing or very late

489
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: with her part of the rent monthly, the two utilities

490
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: we pay, groceries, and late with her car payments.

491
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: What does she like, like, what's she spending this money on?

492
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

493
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: If oh, he's like doing fine and he's making less

494
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: than her, what's she doing Gucci? Yeah, she's foun she bags.

495
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: Her parents have talked to me multiple times about rent,

496
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: and I've covered her mission and I've covered her missing

497
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: portion to get us caught up. And they try talking

498
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: to her, it always turns into her saying we should

499
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: just move if my parents are gonna be hounding us

500
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: for the money.

501
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: I love how it's like her parents that I have,

502
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: and like basically, oh, he's paying her parents.

503
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Literally, And then her parents are like talk some sense

504
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: into her, and it's like you talks. Yeah. I told

505
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: her we're lucky that it's her parents' place, because anywhere

506
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: else we would have gotten our bouts kicked out. On

507
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: top of that, I pay my own bills, do about

508
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: sixty five percent of the housework, which potentially maybe embellished if.

509
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: It's sixty sixty five seems like an odd number.

510
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to him, just on the peer

511
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: account of this, you know, whole financial situation. Sixty five

512
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: percent of the housework, arrange and pay for most of

513
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: our dates, vacations, gifts for gifts for her, and pay

514
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: most towards our pets. Dude, he is the lion. He's

515
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: fronting the bill.

516
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: But if he's doing all that, what is she spending

517
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: it on.

518
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I've suggested a financial coach. But

519
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: what kicks me is whenever we're around others, she boasts

520
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: about being the bread warner, about being the breadwinner because

521
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: she earns more than me.

522
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: She was also like, like, regardless of whatever situation is,

523
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: that's like fucked up to say.

524
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like thats like, why would you ever boast

525
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: about that? Why would you even tell someone that unless

526
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: it's like a very like okay, like here's our financial situation,

527
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: where like maybe giving someone advice and there.

528
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: For it, but like that just like makes the other

529
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: person feel bad.

530
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: It does. It's so lame.

531
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: It's so lame.

532
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: She goes on and on about the stresses of being

533
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: the main source of income.

534
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: Bru man paying You're what you're supposed to be fifty

535
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: to fifty untwo, you're not even paying your fairsare.

536
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: She goes on and on about being the main source

537
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: of income and all the hours she has to work

538
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: to pay our bills.

539
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hate her.

540
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: I hate it. I was letting it slide until a

541
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: few days ago. Why were you letting it slide? That's

542
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: a great question.

543
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, ude, I would have like had a chat with

544
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: her at least be like pulling to the side after, like, dude,

545
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: what what the fuck? Yeah, Like, what world are you

546
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: living on?

547
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: She and her sister started up again about her being

548
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: the breadwinner. Now. Her sister said something to you the

549
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: effect of her ex boyfriend had a hard time being

550
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: with someone who earned more, and my fiance was like,

551
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: good thing, Op doesn't mind because I'm bringing home most

552
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: of the pay.

553
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hate it. I hate it so much.

554
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: It's awful.

555
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: I told her, just because she earns more doesn't make

556
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: her the breadwinner when she blows it on herself and

557
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: I'm paying the bills.

558
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he's actually paying the money. I love picking

559
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: it up every time, But bro, he's paying is it

560
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: fair share? He's not the one.

561
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Shit, that makes you the bread winner paying the bills. Yeah,

562
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. Just because

563
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: you're spending more money on just whatever you're spending it on,

564
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: does not make you the bread winner, not at all.

565
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: When in no bread, Yeah yeah, no bread. Your bread

566
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: is flat, your bread is filthy. She's embarrassed now and

567
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: keep saying that I made her look bad and her

568
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: in trouble with her parents because now they want to

569
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: see what she spends her money on. Every mile.

570
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: I want to see what she spends her money on.

571
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Everyone should see what she's spending her money on. Bro Seriously,

572
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: she's probably spending it on crypto invested. Maybe she's like

573
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: a secret crypto investment.

574
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: And then she's like, surprise, we're billionaires. But I don't

575
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: think I did anything wrong. Am I the a whole?

576
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: No op? Or not the ahole? If she's an a

577
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: hole for one previously spending all her money on things

578
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: that are not the bills, then claiming that she's paying

579
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: all the bills and that she's the breadwetter, and she's

580
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: making you feel bad for some like misrepresented reality.

581
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: She's literally has so little excuse. Their rent is three

582
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a month.

583
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: No excuse, no, no excuse. I really want to know

584
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: one what she actually makes. Is there any comments about

585
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: like like did OP response?

586
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: Will check on there.

587
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh I would love to hear the update.

588
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: So the update. At eleven last night, I was ready

589
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: to just postpone the engagement. As of this morning, after

590
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot of talking and things to come to light,

591
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: we are officially broken up. The wedding was off, Oh wow,

592
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: it's over. It's over.

593
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's over. Damn. I like, I don't know

594
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: if it's a wedding ender.

595
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

596
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: Well, just because the only reason I say that is

597
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: like give her a chance, you know, to like correct

598
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: her behavior. Yeah, right, like like actually like like it

599
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like OP. It sounds like OP was like

600
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: being very supportive. But I don't know if he was

601
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: actually saying like, hey, dude, you're not you're you're doing

602
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: something wrong here.

603
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: He should have been like, if you I want to

604
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: give you a chance, but if you keep going down

605
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: this route, like I don't, like, yeah, I don't know

606
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: if we can be together, but like I'm here's my

607
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: honest feelings. If you're able to change. You know, that's

608
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: that's fine with me, but like we gotta we gotta

609
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: fix this. But no, he was just like wedding over,

610
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: good night.

611
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Good night.

612
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone for your responses and it thank

613
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: you everyone for your sponsors and input. Well let's skip

614
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: that to those asking, yes, I got the ring back again,

615
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: thank god, Thank you to everyone. I will not be

616
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: responding to any more comments, and I'm going to take

617
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: some time from myself and get this crap figured out.

618
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Oh dude, and that's rough, Like we're ending a freaking

619
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: relationship like that. I mean, that's tough, but like.

620
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Not only are you ending I guess, I guess, and

621
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: ending any engagement and engagement engagement.

622
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Engagements together and then it's.

623
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Like, ahh, I'm good, I'm but.

624
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy, like a ton of engagements get broken off.

625
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Oh really, I mean that makes a lot of sense.

626
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: I've never I guess, I've never thought. I just think

627
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: about like marriage and like, uh, like non engaged relationships.

628
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: And never engagements are fairly long year or two or more.

629
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, I'm looking to see if I want to

630
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: know how much they're making. I'm saying that can we

631
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: like search or something. I know some of what she

632
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: spends on eating out for lunch, different hair slash, skin products,

633
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: accessory for a car, house to core, pretty much anything

634
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: she feels she needs to have.

635
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Right then, I mean she must be she must be going.

636
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: She must be going a sugar fish every night or

637
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: something like, like she really spending that much, Like I

638
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I go out to Chipotle almost every day these days

639
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: because big spender. Now that John and I are bringing

640
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: into big, big, big Butler and fifty the time, you

641
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: know that your boy gets squawk.

642
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm having so much more money, bro, you need you

643
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: need some money somebody whoa there we go. I'm never.

644
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, just a positive.

645
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: No never, Just like John's gonna everyone's gonna think John's

646
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: like a truck dealer or something.

647
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: The people are gonna find my apartment and rob me

648
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: for thirty dollars.

649
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: Put him in the air, get up, and then you're like,

650
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: all right, Chuck, all right, that's wrap, folks, see you

651
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: next time.