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Speaker 1: also come in many forms. The ghosts that we carry

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Speaker 1: have loved and lost, or perhaps even wronged, thoughts that

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Speaker 1: sit in the deepest parts of the psyche, straining to

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Speaker 1: become manifest. But what of those apparitions that seem not

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Speaker 1: to have been brought forth from the subconscious, those that

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Speaker 1: For some, to witness a ghost, particularly that of a relative,

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Speaker 1: might bring a certain comfort, a reassuring glimpse of a

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Speaker 1: life beyond death. Historically, however, the ghost has rarely been

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Speaker 1: something to celebrate. For the ancient Sumerians, death was an

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Speaker 1: act from which there was ordinarily no coming back. The

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Speaker 1: for the rest of eternity in dreary unlight, watched over

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Speaker 1: by Irish Kegal, the dark Queen of the nether world.

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Speaker 1: It was said that the oppressive conditions of kur could

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Speaker 1: in the nether world. A failure to do this would

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Speaker 1: uncaring and callous relatives with misfortune and ill health. In

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Speaker 1: ancient Japan, the appearance of a ghost or uray was

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Speaker 1: especially ominous. Urae was sometimes said to transform from souls

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Speaker 1: or racon in fits of explosive emotion, often motivated by vengeance.

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Speaker 1: A violent murder or suicide would almost always presage the

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Speaker 1: arrival of a urae intent on retribution. Until the disturbance

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Speaker 1: Urae are traditionally portrayed as women with long black hair,

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Speaker 1: as a traditional yura with a ponchon for climbing out

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Speaker 1: of TVs and video monitors, as realized to devastating effect

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Speaker 1: in Hideo Nakata's terrifying nineteen ninety eight adaptation of the

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Speaker 1: first book in the series, is for me the most

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Speaker 1: ghost or apparition is said to be inexorably linked to

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom, there are allegedly many such ghosts. Both the

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Speaker 1: Great Tower of London and Edinburgh Castle, for example, are

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Speaker 1: claimed by England and Scotland's tourist boards respectively, as among

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Speaker 1: the most haunted destinations in those countries. However, I've always

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Speaker 1: more than anything else, for reasons laid out with great

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Speaker 1: mournful and affecting beauty. In David Lowry's twenty seventeen film

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Speaker 1: A Ghost Story, there the eponymous ghost, having chosen to

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Speaker 1: as all the world changes around him. Although Lowry slips

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Speaker 1: Just where exactly might a ghost be left to haunt

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Speaker 1: Every time it is exactly the same. I understand this

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Speaker 1: poltergeist events, particularly those of a seemingly malicious nature. You're

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Speaker 1: Susan Castanada, who lived just a few blocks away. Susan

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Speaker 1: TV producer and director Barry Comrad had long been fascinated

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Speaker 1: Taff had come to prominence in the nineteen seventies due

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Speaker 1: Jackie had originally moved into the bungalow, built in the

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Unexplained, Season six, episode thirty one,

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Speaker 1: Every Story is a Ghost Story, Part one of three.

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