1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: It's time to place your bets. It's me Joey Bitty Joe. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Pi's a Pia and I don't know if you know 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: this or not. It's going to be a game in 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: just about a week and a half's time from now, 6 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. That's right, it is right here waiting 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: for us, the Chiefs and the Eagles. It's going to 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: be a fun game, and of course it's always more 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: fun when we have some money on the line. And 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: we're going to talk wagering today as always with our 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: good pal Matthew Friedman, but also a good friend of 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: mine in the industry and also fantastic voice in it 13 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: as well. You know him from Sports Grid, you know 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: him from wager Talk. Joe Ranieri is joining us. Can 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: follow him on Twitter at Joe Ranieri because he's cool 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: enough to have his own full name regularly as his 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Twitter handle. 18 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: I am not I had to add a. 19 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: Number into mine, Joe, and it's great to see you 20 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: back again. Many a show during pandemic after pandemic together 21 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: over the years, talking baseball, talking football. But we've got 22 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: a great game. It's been a fun ride to get 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: here two number ones. Did that surprise you that we 24 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: ended up getting here to that spot? 25 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: No, I mean I think a lot of people, I mean, 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: there were a lot of people thought Philadelphia would be 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: the team. You know, certainly out of the NFC East. 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: You know, Kansas City. You always got a pencil one 29 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: in there somewhere at the top. But the schedule, and 30 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: we'll talk more about it for those Eagles. No team 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 4: benefited more this year from from not having the strongest 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: schedule than the Eagles. So doesn't surprise me they landed 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: the number one spot. 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: After all. 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: I like how you did the whole Eagles landing metaphor. 36 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: You just slid that right in there. You're so good, 37 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: You're so good. Now, look, guys, I don't want to 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to stop the show before it starts, 39 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: but I do have this here if you're watching on 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: the YouTube channel, this is the this is the script. 41 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: I have it here. 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Arion Foster sent this to me earlier for the Super Bowl, 43 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: so I already know what's gonna happen here in the game. Friedman. 44 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: It's about thirty seven pages long. It's got some good stuff. 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun, some really cool moments in here 46 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: that they've crafted. But you can see it right here. 47 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs. So Friedman, we're 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: gonna have to start writing this script here and writing 49 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: this story regardless, even though I know how the game's 50 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: gonna end. I want to hear what you guys have 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: to say. So let's talk about it. It's a one 52 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: and a half point spread. The Eagles are favored right now, 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: the over unders at fifty. The money line for the 54 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Kansasity Chiefs at plus one oh five. That's over bettingpros 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: dot com. The narrative is, of course, you know, we've 56 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: got Andy Reid going against his old teams. So this 57 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: fun stuff there. You got the Kelsey brothers. That's all 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: fun and games. But what Joe was kind of alluding 59 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: to is really interesting, which is the NFC AFC comparison. 60 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: We've been building up. 61 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: The AFC it's my homes, it's Josh Allen, it's Joe Burrow, 62 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: it's the AFC is the gauntlet you have to run through, 63 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: and the NFC is a place where you know, the 64 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: eight to nine Bucks are hosting a home playoff game, 65 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: and you know Brock Perdy is the quarterback of the 66 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So is it dangerous that we get 67 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: this false sense of security, like, Wow, the Eagles were great, 68 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: but they were great against the NFC. 69 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Is that a dangerous way to be looking at this game? 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: Maybe? 71 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 5: I mean, they were great against inferior opponents, but they 72 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 5: smashed them, and that is what you know good to 73 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 5: great teams do against inferior opponents. So you can't be 74 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: little the Eagles all that much for their strength of schedule. 75 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 5: They they took care of business in a very convincing fashion. 76 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: But that said, I think this, this is wrong, This 77 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: line is wrong. Of one and a half. I think 78 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: the wrong team, the wrong team is favored. 79 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Here. 80 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 5: Think about how we viewed these teams before the playoffs started. 81 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: Most people would have had the Chiefs, if not power rated, 82 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: is the number one team, a top two team, easily 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: above the Eagles. And I think what we've seen in 84 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: the playoffs probably shouldn't change the perspectives that we had 85 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: entering the playoffs, because you know, the Chiefs Patrick Mahomes 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: injured in their first game, and so it's you know, 87 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: that doesn't really it's not representative. 88 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Of who they are. 89 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: And then this past game Patrick Mahomes still dealing with injury, 90 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey dealing with a back injury, all of the 91 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: wide receivers being injured in the middle of the game. Like, 92 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: that's not really representative of the Chiefs either. And then 93 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 5: on the flip side, look at the Eagles. Yeah, they 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: really handily took it to a Giants team that is 95 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: kind of overperforming for the super majority of the season. 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Very kind of way of putting it, Like what you 97 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: did there, Yeah, you really measured your words there. 98 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: And then and then a forty nine Ers team that 99 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: at one point was rolling out a fourth string quarterback 100 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: and then a third string quarterback who was coming in 101 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: on an emergency basis who was unable to throw. Like, yeah, 102 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 5: you beat them, you beat them well, but you should 103 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: beat them by like thirty points. So my perception of 104 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: these two teams hasn't really changed. I think the Chiefs 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 5: should be favored in this spot. 106 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: All right, So you coming hot right out of the 107 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: gate here, Uh, he's just saying the wrong team's favor Joe, 108 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: do you kind of agree? And if so, does that 109 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: push you immediately to be putting money on the Chiefs 110 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: money line as opposed to even worrying about these numbers. 111 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: No, I could not disagree more. You should go out. 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: But as much money as you have on Philadelphi, just 113 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: keep betting Philadelphia, the right team is favorite. 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: So those watching on the YouTube and not listening, it's sarcasms. 115 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: You could see there's a lot of air quoting and 116 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: silent gesturing going on here. It's all clean, but it's 117 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: still it's a little soundary. 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with it. 119 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: I I thought it would come out to pick them originally, 120 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: and I thought there was going to be some adjustment 121 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 4: based upon obviously to high ankle sprain. People got thrown 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 4: for a loop in the Cincinnati game when they learned 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, what do you mean Travis Kelsey 124 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: is questionable, He's a game time decision. 125 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Back issues? What back issues? 126 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: So listen, every team has got issues that every team 127 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: is hurt, Every team is banged up by this time 128 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: of year. The two left standing and Philadelphia should be 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: for the most part healthy. Are are given the fact 130 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: and I hate to keep going back to it, Joe, 131 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: but the reality is we're talking about the thirty first 132 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: toughest schedule in the NFL. 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Going up against the Kansas City Chiefs who have had 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: to go through. 135 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: Just look at the last month of the season on 136 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: what they've had to go through, who they've had to 137 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: go through in order to be able to get to 138 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: this spot. The list of quarterbacks that Philadelphia has had 139 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: to go up against versus Patrick Mahomes, I mean it's 140 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: night and day. I mean Brock Party, Josh Johnson, some 141 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: dude from Section three oh five had to come in 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: because they ran out of quarterbacks. I mean they Danny 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: Dimes twice. I mean, you go down the list. This 144 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 4: is an absolute step up in class just from the 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: quarterback position alone, not now you mix in. Of course, 146 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: Andy Reid, the experience team has been there, done that. 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: This is to me, all things. 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: Being equal, even if you think these teams are on 149 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: equal footing, that the Eagles are every bit as good. 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Than the Kansas City Chiefs. 151 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so experience doesn't come into the handicapping. 152 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: The Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback. 153 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: And by the way, none of those quarterbacks that Philadelphia 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: faced this this eighty five Bears. Apparently everyone has this 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: Eagles team compared to here. When they talk defense for 156 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: the Eagles, it's like, oh, you know this tea every 157 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: settled down. 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: They didn't. They haven't. 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: They didn't go up against one mobile quarterback worth his weight. 160 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: This is a totally different animal that they're facing here. 161 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: So on many many levels, I agree Thatt. I to me, 162 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: it was absolutely going to be Kansas City regardless of 163 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: the number. But the fact that two's are still out there, 164 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: two and a half are still out there, It's only 165 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: one way to look for me, and I'm going with 166 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: the better quarterback, the more experienced head coach. 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and guys that. 168 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: Have been there, done that in that winning organization known 169 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: as the Kansas City Chiefs. 170 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: And I'd like to follow up to his point about 171 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: the defense there of the Eagles, And yes, it is 172 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: a good defense, especially on the defensive line. They they 173 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: can get after the quarterback right so in a good secondary, 174 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: you know, fully healthy now that Avonte Maddox is back 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 5: in the slot. So it is a good defense. There's 176 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 5: no trying to undermine that. However, like that said, they 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 5: did not as a bud. They did not perform really 178 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 5: all that well against the toughest teams that they played, 179 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: the offensive the best offenses that they played against. They 180 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: weren't all that great, you know, going against the Lions 181 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: in a Week one they allowed thirty five points per game, 182 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 5: and that was before the Lions really kind of took 183 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: it to the next level in the second half of 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: the season. You know, Jacksonville playing against Jacksonville, the Jags 185 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: put up twenty one points was in which isn't that much, 186 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: But that's before the Jags really started to come on 187 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: in the second half of the season. Going against the 188 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: Cowboys in Week sixteen, they allowed what was it like, 189 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: forty points. Going against the Packers in Week twelve, before 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers got injured, they allowed twenty points in the 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: first half. Like that, they are good, but when they 192 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 5: went up against the best offenses they faced, they weren't 193 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: looking like an elite unit. They were looking like a 194 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: good defense. And Patrick Mahomes when he played good defenses 195 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: this year, he crushed them. So I feel like the 196 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: defense it is it is the sticking point, and I 197 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: think that is one of the big reasons why people 198 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: do prefer the Eagles, or like the people who have 199 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: bet on the Eagles, the reason why they are betting 200 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: on them. But I don't think the defense is as 201 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 5: strong as the overall numbers would indicate. 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's very interesting because you know, we've we've got 203 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: time before the game. 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Here. 205 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: This is the early super Bowl preview by the way, 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: just putting this out there for everybody so there'll. 207 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Be more super Bowl preview. 208 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going on sports Grid tomorrow to talk 209 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: about the super Bowl. 210 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: Joe. 211 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna talk about this for the next 212 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: you know, ten days at nauseum and we all get 213 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: sick of it. I guess the question at this point 214 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: is this, as all these very bright people talk about 215 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: this game, if many of them have the same take 216 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: you guys do, does that mean we're going to see 217 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: line movement here? Is this going to move significantly, Joe, 218 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: either all the way to Kansas City because it is 219 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: so close already. 220 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: So is the. 221 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: Value on Kansas City now in the market if you 222 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: want to bet them, as opposed to waiting for this 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: game and betting it a week from now. 224 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely it is. 225 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: And here's why I think the minute that we start 226 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: to get and we did see this even with the 227 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: Cincinnati line right the questions about the high ankle sprain, 228 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: everyone was waiting until Wednesday or Thursday. Can somebody please 229 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 4: see what he's doing in practice. Mahomes is he mobile? 230 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Is he not mobile? 231 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: And then once the information started to come out that 232 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: Mahomes was going to be he was fine, guys, there 233 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: was nothing going to be wrong. Then you started to 234 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: see the market turn right. So all of a sudden, 235 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: from Kansas sincinn being the big favorite, we started to 236 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: see all of a sudden that money swing the other 237 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: way to Casey and I think the same thing is 238 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: going to happen here. The minute we start to get 239 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: any sort of reports regarding any limited ability by Mahomes 240 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: or nonlimited ability Kelsey here, what about all those receivers 241 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: that were heard. I think once that news starts to 242 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: trickle in, as we get a little bit closer to 243 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: next week, I think this line might you know, go 244 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: from two to one and a. 245 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Half for Philadelphia to one. 246 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: I only see this thing moving towards case I don't 247 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: ever think it's going to get to three. I don't 248 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: think the books are crazy enough to leave a field 249 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: goal out there. I do think that this line is 250 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: going to only move towards Kansas City as information comes 251 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: in about the health and availability of those guys like 252 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: Kelsey and mahomes and the receivers. And if it's not 253 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: you know, if the information coming out as we get 254 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: closer isn't great, well then you could see this thing 255 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: hit up to two and a half for Philadelphia, maybe three. 256 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: But one way or another, it will not. 257 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: Last on the market if it does happen to get 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: to a field goal. But I think that have to 259 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 4: be a pretty damning report hitting the marketplace about mahomes 260 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: in Kansas City. 261 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: You know you mentioned something earlier, Jill that kind of 262 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: stuck with me. And I lived in Philadelphia for a while. 263 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: I went to school there at college. Aaron and I 264 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: lived a couple of years later. It's a unique place. 265 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: I always says, I saw a lot more David Akers 266 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: jerseys there than I did Donovan McNabb jersey. 267 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: It's a weird place. 268 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: That being said, when you're talking about Andy Reid, I 269 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: remember Andy Reid being, you know, the guy who was 270 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: hung with the moniker of great coach, can't win the 271 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: big One until he did, and he did win the 272 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: big one. So you were talking about the experience of 273 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: Andy Reid. But if you look back at the track 274 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: we're going to Hendy read. Yes, he's had a lot 275 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: of success, but except for one time, he's always been 276 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: the bridesmaid. Is there something dangerous potentially about this Eagles 277 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: team that is kind of looking at Hey, we're fresh 278 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: in this situation. I know some of the data will 279 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: point to you know, teams that have been to super 280 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Bowls kind of get it and they have they have. 281 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: You know, you don't get activity by the two weeks 282 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: of media and all the all the superfluous things that happen, 283 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of stuff people forget, you know 284 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: this these two weeks leading up to the game. There's 285 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: just so much other nonsense that's not the well related 286 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: sometimes that sucks up some other teams. Do you think 287 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: that that is an advantage or disadvantage for this Eagles 288 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: team going in? 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I think it's a disadvantage. 290 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a business is usual trip 291 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 4: for Kansas City. And they've earned that, right, haven't they. 292 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: And when I'm talking about experience, I mean that coach 293 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: quarterback bond that they have. They've been through the transits, 294 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: they've been through the war. There be enemy offense. I mean, 295 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: stability is the number one thing we all look for 296 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 4: in sports, right especially football. Do I have the OC 297 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: Do I have the head coach? Do I have the 298 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: same quarterback? And when you do, and once you've made 299 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: it past that first one and you got that, well 300 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: then the rest is just you know, Kansas City expected 301 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: to be here this year, Make no mistake about it. Philadelphia, Yeah, 302 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: we expect to be a super Bowl. But I mean 303 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: it's until you have done it, until you've crossed that threshold, 304 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: you know. And now you get there and it's the lights, 305 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: and it's all week long, you're doing interviews and radio 306 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: rows and absolute disaster. You know, they're all over to play, 307 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: so many distractions other than the game. That to me 308 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: is where experience is going to come into play. Been 309 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: they're done that, we know what we've got to do. 310 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: We know what we got to do in order to 311 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: be able to win this thing. They're going to go 312 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: out like a business trip. 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Here. There may be some wide eyes on the Eagles. 314 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Well could you say that same thing back in two 315 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: thousand and the was a couple of years ago with 316 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Patriots, you know too about well 317 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: this team with Doug Peterson, they have never been there before. 318 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: The Patriots they're always there business as usual. So it 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: can go the other way. Just throwing the rinks and 320 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm having fun here. I've got to find something right 321 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: with the other side. 322 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: Anything is possible. 323 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: But there's a lot more questions with this Eagles team 324 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: when they are backed into a corner. I mean, you 325 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: tell me, when have they been pushed to the brink 326 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: here and have actually come through on anything? 327 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Well, not when Jalen Hurts is playing quarterback, that's for sure. 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: I mean they they certainly. We took Hurts out of 329 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: the equation. 330 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: It looked like a totally different team that got their 331 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: doors blown off there by Dallas on Christmas weekend. 332 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: So it's it's about Jalen Hurts. Even though they're favored. 333 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that, you know, forget Vegas for a 334 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: second here, Friedman, do you think that the Eagles have 335 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: a narrative that they are the underdog here in this 336 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: game because they haven't been there? Do you think that 337 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: that is a driving force that they're using right now? 338 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: Because I'm sure public perception of this game is, oh, 339 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes, it's the Cancity Chiefs, They're you know, 340 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: the industry standard. Do you think the Eagles are using 341 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: that a little Bolton bor material here in this game 342 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: as they as they prepare for it these next few. 343 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Weeks, I'm sure. 344 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: I mean, and I imagine that they like, yeah, they 345 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 5: view themselves as the underdog, and they want to view 346 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: themselves as the underdog. I think they would be shocked 347 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: if they learned that they were favored in this game, 348 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: and it might be like a no, like we should 349 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: not be It's like it would be like this dual 350 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: like mind meld of like well, one, yes we should 351 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: be favored, we're the better teams, and also like like no, 352 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: we should not be favored. 353 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: You know because like the. 354 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: Motivation, right, so you know, who knows, who knows how 355 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: it is that that they're thinking of this. But you know, 356 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: to to Joe's point about you know, Andy Reid and 357 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: the experience that he has and Patrick Mahomes there, like 358 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: this is a legacy defining opportunity that they have. Like 359 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes if he wins the Super Bowl, and let's 360 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 5: just assume he's going to be MVP of the NFL 361 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: this year, I think that's very close to being a certainty. 362 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: He could retire the moment after the super Bowl and 363 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 5: be a first ballot Hall of Famer like some Sandy 364 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 5: Kofax type of stuff to where it's like you had 365 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: this much of a career, but it was all awesome. 366 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 5: And Andy Reid, if he wins his second Super Bowl 367 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: against the team that ditched him a decade ago, like 368 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: he's first ballot coach at that point, you know, so I. 369 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: Think he's you know, Andy Reach should be a Hall 370 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: of Fame coach anyway. I always felt like that. But 371 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: you're right. 372 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: Winning two put you in that other conversation of all 373 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: time greats. And when you look at the body of work, 374 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: the winning percentage, the playoff victories, super Bowl appearances. Now 375 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 2: with another one under his belt, that's pretty impressive. I mean, 376 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: I know he lost a lot of championship games at Philadelphia, 377 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: but he didn't get to them. That's still an accomplishment, 378 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: especially back in those days when the NFC was a 379 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: bit better, a lot more talent running through there. You know, 380 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: that was the greatest show on turf era and some 381 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: other pretty good offensive running around the NFC. Let's talk 382 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: about the over under for a second. Number is at 383 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: fifty right now. 384 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: Now. 385 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: I understand, you know, different spots, it's it's fluctuating, but 386 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: in your opinion, fifty and a half. Freedman will start 387 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: with you on this one. Are you over or under 388 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: on this number? And do you think it's going to move? 389 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: Because mostly everywhere I see right now as of today, 390 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: it's looking at fifty and a half. 391 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna hover around like the forty nine 392 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: and a half to fifty. Maybe it gets to fifty one. 393 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: I really doubt it gets as high as as fifty two. 394 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: But I have it protected at fifty one point six, 395 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: so I lean a little more towards the over. But 396 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: I feel more strongly about the Chief's side on this 397 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: than I do about the over. And you know, the 398 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: same perspective that puts me on the Chiefs is what 399 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 5: is putting me on the over here. I think the 400 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: Chiefs score a lot of points, and I think that 401 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 5: is what pushes this game to the over if it's 402 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 5: an under situation. Normally unders and underdogs correlate, but I 403 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 5: think if it's an under situation, it's because that defense 404 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: for the Eagles is absolutely legit and shuts down the Chiefs, 405 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: or at least slows them down enough to where it's 406 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 5: a tightly contested, low scoring game, and we don't get 407 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: anywhere close to the total. 408 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: Hurts has averaged fifty point seven rushing yards per game 409 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: this season. The most ever in a Super Bowl was 410 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: sixty four yards by Steve McNair, a pretty darn good 411 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: quarterback in his own right, Ken Jalen Hurts run around enough, 412 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: create enough here, Joe, in your opinion, to go over 413 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: here in the fifteen and. 414 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 4: A half, I my initial thought was and the market 415 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: move the initial after it opened was down, was under. 416 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: It has obviously, you know, climbed a little bit back 417 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: up to right around that fifty mark. And I think 418 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: the biggest move with this from a total is gonna 419 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: come late. I think a lot of people are just 420 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: gonna sit back. They're gonna wait until before kickoff there 421 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: to try and get as much information as possible. And 422 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: then like we saw we saw it with the Kansas 423 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: City and Cincinnati game too, there was a ton of 424 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: money that came in late in that one to the under, 425 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: and a lot of people although that was going to 426 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: be a shootout. 427 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. 428 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be a very you know, 429 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 4: points were going to be tough, it was going to 430 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: be a grind. 431 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: I think everyone expects this one to be a shootout. 432 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 4: I think it might tick up a little bit more Joe. 433 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: But to me, ay, you talk about Janellen Hurts, how 434 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: healthy is he? Does anybody really have I do you 435 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: really want to swing him around on some sort of 436 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: quarterback keeper and have him get crushed and we're going to. 437 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Be pretty healthy in the Giants game, I know they 438 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: babied him in the second half because they wasn't didn't 439 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: have to do anything because that came up well out 440 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: of pocket. And you know last week, I don't think 441 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: he got the full indication of full Jalen Hurts because 442 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: he didn't have to get pushed either. 443 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: So it's a fair question. 444 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: But then we'll put the Super Bowl at four weeks 445 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: removed from or five from the initial injury. 446 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: Right, that's a pretty good distance there. 447 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess at the end of the day, 448 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: we're giving with two quarterbacks that have injury questions quote 449 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: unquote they were trying to figure out there and. 450 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: You know whoever's shoulder is different though, isn't there? Absolutely 451 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: throwing is. 452 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: The backfoot of a quarterback is everything. But the thing 453 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: with Mahomes is he is such a freak of nature 454 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: the way he throws the football, it's not like anybody else. 455 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: He has such arm strength and such odd arm angles. 456 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: You know, he could flip the ball backwards for godsay. 457 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: He does things like no human being should do with 458 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: the football. It's crazy, it's insane. So yeah, I mean 459 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: with if this was Kirk Cousins, I'd say, yeah, the 460 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: backfoot really matters. With Mahomes, I don't know at this point. 461 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: The weakness in the ankle is what concerns me. And 462 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: you saw him tweak it there at the end of 463 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: the game, and that was what worried me the entire 464 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: time about that game. That happens again early in this game, 465 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: that will change the calculus, I think completely of what 466 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: goes on here, whether it be the over under, whether 467 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: it be the Chiefs to win this game regardless. I know, look, 468 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: I know we got a lot of Super Bowl stuff 469 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: to get to. But one things you mentioned already is 470 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: the MVP, right, you know, it's foregone conclusion. It's always 471 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: a quarterback. Nine of the last thirteen players, sixty nine 472 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: percent of them named Super Bowl MVP have been quarterbacks 473 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: thirty one to fifty six. In case you're keeping score 474 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: at home, and look, Mahomes is at plus one twenty. 475 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: In some spots you're getting Jalen Hurst at plus one hundred, 476 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey plus one thousand. 477 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: Friedman, do we live in a world. 478 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: Here where Kelsey is the guy that has the two touchdowns? 479 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: Does it go to Kelsey at all or you think 480 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: it's It would have to be at Travis Kelcey three touchdown, 481 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty yard game for him to even 482 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: get in the conversation because again, those those stats are 483 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: all attached to Mahomes at the same time, would have 484 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: to be all of him going in the office because 485 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I think that one thing at the defense of the 486 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: Eagles you could talk about good upfront, good in the secondary, 487 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: the linebacking corps. That's the one thing they had to 488 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: address in the offseason. They sort of did kind of, 489 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: but it's that one weakness of them and that's where 490 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: Kelsey shines. 491 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the bet is Mahomes at you know, 492 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: I would line shop. You know, plus one thirty is available. 493 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: I believe at DraftKings you can look at other places 494 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: and shop and I think if you like the Chiefs, 495 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: that is probably the bet that you make instead of 496 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 5: taking them on the money line or taking the spread, 497 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 5: because I think it's pretty unlikely that they win this 498 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: game in Mahomes is not the MVP. You know, even 499 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 5: if Kelsey has a great game, as you said, those 500 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: stats are still attached to Mahomes. It would need to 501 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: be sort of like a Julian Edelman type of situation 502 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: where he has like the majority of the yards that 503 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: that Mahomes and throwing after catcher he breaks just a 504 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 5: huge one after like a five yard pass and he 505 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: goes seventy. 506 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: That kind of thing. 507 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: Joe, do you see the market the same way, where 508 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: again it's just four gone conclusion with the quarterbacks and 509 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: any other bet is silly? Or do you think Kelsey 510 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: is kind of a fun one to at least throw 511 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: out there with maybe maybe throw a little tiny number 512 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: on there just for fun. 513 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: So, I mean, it's the obvious choice, right, So keep 514 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 4: it simple. If Kansas City, if you're betting Kansas City, 515 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 4: you better be betting Mahomes. 516 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: It's gotta be correlated here, guys. Though. The one caveat 517 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: I would reach. 518 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: Out to is say, if Kansas City does win it 519 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: and the defense is a big roar part of it, 520 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: then I don't know what the number is, but you know, 521 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: having Chris Jones in that middle with two or three sacks, 522 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you could have the defense take over this 523 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: game with the number three offense. Right this Philadelphia offense 524 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: supposed to light everybody up. Well, what if they don't 525 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: light them up? And what if it's a long day 526 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: for hurts? It might be worth the price, you know, 527 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: a little sprinkle there on maybe somebody on the defense 528 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: getting it done. 529 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: The years, the. 530 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: Chiefs spranked one in two, by the way, in the 531 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: regular season in sacks Philly having seventy, Kansas City fifty five. 532 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: So in terms of the possibility that maybe it's not 533 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: as crazy as it sounds, go ahead for you. 534 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, here's one idea that is correlated with what Joe 535 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: just mentioned there. If you think it turns into a 536 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 5: defensive matchup, this would be very wild. I mean, Harrison 537 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 5: Bucker two hundred and fifty to one. You know, like, 538 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 5: what if we're in a situation where it is a 539 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: tight game, it's a low scoring game, Bucker has like 540 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: three or four field goals and one of them is 541 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 5: a game winner. You know, like, you know, maybe a 542 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 5: situation is it likely? No, But that's why it's two 543 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty to one. 544 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: If the if the number flips here and the Chiefs 545 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: become the favorites in the next few days, does the 546 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: money go minus on Mahomes Friedman for MVP and you 547 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: missed that window, Oh don't. 548 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: I don't think so, but I you know, look at 549 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts right now, he's plus one twenty. I think 550 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: it would be similar type of odds on Mahomes. It 551 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: would be you know, maybe one ten, one fifteen, one twenty, 552 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 5: same neighborhood. 553 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: Now, we've got so many props, so many other things 554 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: to talk about, so if you haven't already, make sure 555 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: you subscribe to the Betting Pros YouTube channel, YouTube dot 556 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: com slash betting pro subscribe to the podcast wherever you 557 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: get your pods to Betting Pros, and we're gonna have 558 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: more coverage on that in the days ahead, but for 559 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: now we're going to put the early look preview to 560 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: be again. Follow my good friend Joe veniy Over on 561 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: Twitter at Joe VENIREI go check out his work at 562 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: wager Talk. It's fantastic, my homie at Sports Great. I 563 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: love you, Joe, I'm glad you got your internet back. 564 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: Very happy for you, unthough I know you have to 565 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: get to work now, so maybe not as happy as 566 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: I should be. That'll do it for us, but the 567 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: story of the game goes on for Joe and Matt. 568 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 3: I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids,