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Speaker 1: You don't know that yet. We haven't even brought it

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Speaker 3: We are literally, as soon as we're done recording this episode,

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Speaker 1: Orna would be God, someone get on it. Oh who

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Speaker 1: are you so? So? Who are you being? Doctor Orny Grell?

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Speaker 1: I love doctor. I love her.

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Speaker 2: She's just funny.

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Speaker 1: She's funny. Well, how are you gonna make funny funny? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My god, you honestly could. She is a better Snatch

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Speaker 1: All along in my life, I've known my karaoke song,

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Speaker 1: Damn. Yes, I actually think you ever be walking around

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Speaker 3: Now we need to like go back towards the central

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Speaker 3: This because I saw you post that story and that

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Speaker 2: Give us a shot now in my room.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to hear some of my song?

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Speaker 2: I am clamoring.

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Speaker 1: This is my rendition of get out of my dreams.

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Speaker 1: Get into my car by Belly Ocean.

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Speaker 4: Who's that lady coming down the road. Who's that lady?

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Speaker 4: Who's that woman walking down the road? What's the skull?

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Speaker 4: I'll be the sun shining on you. Hey, San Lorella,

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Speaker 1: Get out of modream Hey, get in to Mocka, Get

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about stepping into your destiny?

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the emo of stepping into your destiny?

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. There's nothing like music ever,

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Speaker 1: and that's real culture number thirty. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like music ever. And when I feel you

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Speaker 3: Because can I just say this is this is just

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? Because no, because you didn't let

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Speaker 1: I gosh, like I have never connected with any piece

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Speaker 1: the words of the amazing Angelica from Hamilton, because you're

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Speaker 1: and then Michael pick you up. You've been on one all.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just yelled at you. I'm sorry, just you.

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy. So he really yelled at him. You

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's in the great tradition of Divas, you

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Speaker 4: Right, God, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And no one understands what the implication of that are

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Speaker 3: And to finally go back to the original question that

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Speaker 3: be in Cecilia next week and we'll probably be giving

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Speaker 1: We will be giving you, for the very first time,

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Speaker 1: an episode from not Europe, because we've done an episode

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Speaker 1: from Europe. This is I guess, first from Italy, from Italy.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge moment in the box, our first

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Speaker 1: Italian episode or Italian episode. Wow, do you know what

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Speaker 1: I think is gonna happen? What? Just because spiritually I

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Speaker 1: I feel this happening. I can't explain how Lady Gaga

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Speaker 1: Like there's a reason why we're going to Italy. There's

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Speaker 1: so I can feel in the air. Why I lick

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Speaker 1: you feel LG seven. I do actually have been watching

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Speaker 1: going to hell like I'll see you in Hell. Like

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Speaker 1: make a comeback. Hold on So in that snippet, I

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Speaker 1: I have chills? And I also think that we must

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Speaker 1: think we're in for an extreme Gaga. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: because the producers that they've announced so far Chin Misothulstein,

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Speaker 2: Rick Rubin, which I don't think she's worked. I don't

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Speaker 1: I am so happy about it because Rick Rubin gives

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Speaker 1: be really see. This is how you find can come

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Speaker 3: This is our corollary to our Katy Perry polemic. Look,

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Speaker 3: I gotta say Bowen Yang said it anyway. I said

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Speaker 3: we were nearing something Earlier, we were nearing something or

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about it. Kill girl, what a stick mine?

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Speaker 1: I said a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: I don't like what whatever this looks like. It looked

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Speaker 1: I'm like, at least putting a whole bunch of that

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Speaker 1: Like I like the fucking album and I was not

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00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: checking for yes, And I'm a Camela fan too, Like

435
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: I like her some of her old albums. I don't

436
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: think she's been a fave of mine, but like I

437
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: judged this on face value, and maybe that's my fault,

438
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's their fault in marketing. But like the album

439
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: is great. I like it a lot, a lot.

440
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: Nothing too alarming about the thing that people are saying,

441
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: which is like, oh it's messy. It's like a little

442
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: too all over the play. It's like a little two

443
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: all over the map. But you're like, see, at what

444
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: point is it all over the map? And at what point

445
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: is it like meant to be? Like the other side

446
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: of that coin is like you, oh, this person's so versatile.

447
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: This albumsatile, or it's just like this is a real snapshot.

448
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: There's insane things that happened in this album. Like there's

449
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: one track that's just literally a fans voicemail to her

450
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: about how much a one of her other her albums

451
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: meant to him because his dog died.

452
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: Like that's one whole track in the album that I'm like,

453
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: this is insane. It's such a weird choice. But it's

454
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: little things like that that I think sometimes helped make

455
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: an album memorable. Like there's little pieces in here, little

456
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: transitions where like there's one culled three h five till

457
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I Die, which is just her and a bunch of

458
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: girls getting ready to go somewhere. I was choking with

459
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: Corey camp Patrol he was coming on our vacation. He

460
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: was like, that's literally just on the way to Aerostore,

461
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Like three or five till I Die. There's little bizarre

462
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: things in here which are like make me feel like, oh,

463
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: you know what I like about this? She wasn't too

464
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: precious about it. It seems like she actually kind of

465
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: like threw up her hands with this one and was like,

466
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm going through it. I'm gonna like

467
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: make an album about things I love, like Miami and

468
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: partying and like being a little bit of like an

469
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: obsessive romantic person and put it in there and I'm

470
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be blonde, and I just I don't know, I

471
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: get it, and I was hard on her, but I

472
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: love it.

473
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: And you are such you are very developed in that thinking.

474
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: That's very very very nice you feel. Yes, Jared and

475
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: I were remarking on how the visuals are very good

476
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: and creative team is doing excellent, excellent, excellent work along

477
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: with which includes her.

478
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Obviously. Well that's why he's really why he's here, our

479
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: Miami correspondent.

480
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: As we talked about Camilla Caveo, so like, words that

481
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: were popping out to me were like, Biscayane Collins Avenue,

482
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: he should have like.

483
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Five translated some of the Miami stuff in here. And

484
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: how do you think as a Miami girl, So, as.

485
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Speaker 5: A fellow Miami girl, as a three h five sister,

486
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 5: as a Biscayne Hattie Okay, as someone who also loves

487
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 5: samples on songs called boats. I really do feel as

488
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 5: though Kamilla is always undervalued, She's always underrated. Yes, there

489
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 5: is a slight hyper propability to her in this moment

490
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 5: in time. But I think that the album is just

491
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 5: you know, the sounds of the ocean, the sounds of

492
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: a cafesito in a warm summer breeze. Ah and what

493
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 5: I will. Just to back up Bowen's thought about the

494
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: visual aesthetic, like the girl knows how to pick a director. Yeah, yeah,

495
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: they're all super interesting. She's never boring. Her choices are weird.

496
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: She's a cat and a tree in one video that's

497
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 5: trying to be cut down.

498
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: I would love that one.

499
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: It made me absolutely giggle. And do I know what

500
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 5: Playboy Cardi is saying on the verse? Couldn't tell you

501
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: if my life depended on it, right, But baby, that's Miami.

502
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: We don't know who's speaking or what they're saying, but

503
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 5: we do know one thing. They came to Slave Way.

504
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Your favorite track is I Think He Knows. I Think

505
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: he Knows.

506
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 5: I love it and I love the music video, and

507
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 5: I love that nos and Camilla fight over the same guy,

508
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: which we don't see enough in the culture. It says

509
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 5: there shouldn't be labels. It's saying queernesses the future. Get

510
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 5: on board or get out my house.

511
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: Get out and into my car she' fa Oh my god,

512
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: the best song ever. I'm so excited to do it

513
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: next year for the Culture Awards.

514
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 5: And then there's a moment at the end of the

515
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: NAS video where like Camilla and Nos a little bit

516
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: of a bit and Camilla lands lansaid.

517
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: Camilla really nails the acting moment. She I mean, there's

518
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: nothing more I need than a sketch at the top

519
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: of a pop music video. And you, I'm just gonna

520
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: say this, you can tell a lot from the quality

521
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: of those sketches. And when someone comes in and is

522
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Kristen wigging at like Camilla Cabello, who is just as

523
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: funny as Kristin wig That is what everyone here was

524
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: saying off Mike, the people Cinderella like when push comes

525
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: to shove. This girl is the comedy future. She's a

526
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Dina Menzel stepdaughter. You don't get funnier than that. I

527
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: have blown away by this idea that would you say

528
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: that she's a cute girl with a sick mind? Talk.

529
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I love Chanela, talk about why because we're not getting it?

530
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love well. I don't know. It's like, kid,

531
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: what a sick mind? It doesn't take much more than

532
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: that from me, But I will say this about que

533
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: girl with a sick mind, Like if that's true, then

534
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the album I kind of want to

535
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: hear about her sick dark thoughts.

536
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's all there.

537
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: I think it's like her sick dark thoughts are I'm

538
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: going to put a fan voicemail on my fucking album.

539
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think that that's so insane. It's it's

540
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: dark excited, but I love it and I think it

541
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: like gives it something. I think she said put that

542
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: on there.

543
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about, Like pop right now

544
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: needs like serrated.

545
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: Serrated edges. I was thinking about that, like there is

546
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: something serrated edge about this, and I realized after we

547
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: had that conversation how important that is. What you said

548
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: there's ration is because guess what, we're still split years

549
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: later about whether or not Solar Power is a good album.

550
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: And I maybe it was.

551
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: I think it was, it just didn't have this serrated edge.

552
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: I've been listening to a lot of Lord over the

553
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: past few days, just because she is so back, as

554
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: we all found out last week. But nothing compares to melodrama. Melodrama,

555
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean nothing. I was gonna say, I was gonna

556
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: say super drama, super drama. I actually think it might

557
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: be Ansonov's best melodrama is statement when you combine what

558
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: an incredible lyricist she is with his production, forget about

559
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: like how singular her vocal is and how it feels

560
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: like she is truly the only one like her in

561
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: the entire universe. But there really were a matchmate in

562
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: heave on Yeah, Yeah, in competition with one with Rockwell,

563
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I would do.

564
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: Nine no, because that's not the things that we love

565
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: a lot of the things that we love from nineteen

566
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: eighty nine are not our max Like. It's not a

567
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: Jack majority album. Where I could like make that distinction,

568
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: I would have to say, I would have to say

569
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: folklore or Lover. But as a body of works, it's

570
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. The thing about Jack and Melodrama is

571
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 5: it was the two of them. It was Ella and

572
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: Jack like in a room, making this cohesive like one

573
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: in a billion album. I just don't know that him

574
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: and Taylor have that have had that cohesive experience on

575
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: one album.

576
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: I will say I am. I am a midnight stan

577
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Over time complete midnight stan Like, and I think that

578
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: people need to listen to Maroon again. That's all I'll

579
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: say about that. None so scut it world model. I mean,

580
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: that's that's right there for you too. Hold on the

581
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: implications of Matt saying that we are singing these songs

582
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: that culture awards are unfathomable, and I actually I don't

583
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: think I can do it. Bowen. That's not your decision

584
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: to make. It is God's decision, and he has spoken

585
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: through me. I'm I'm sure this is complete divinity. It

586
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: is your destiny, but I can't do it your destiny.

587
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it in that context. Yes you can.

588
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: We're going to set the intention and we're going to

589
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: speak on it later. But now what has happened. Now,

590
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: this is what we're supposed to happen, We're supposed to go.

591
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm clear, I'm very clear.

592
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: I've never been creaked out.

593
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: You are going to eat Oh and let me let

594
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. What's five plus three? How

595
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: many letters in stallion? How many letters in D that

596
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: word I can't how many slices of a pizza usually

597
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: h how many you don't do ship? How many John

598
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: and Kate plus.

599
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Hey boo hey boo spiders have?

600
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: How many links. That is legs. Hey, my favorite Adam

601
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Stander movie. Blank Crazy Nights. You could have just said

602
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: how many nights in Honick? That's not what I said.

603
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Oh wait, we didn't you know, we didn't talk about

604
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: in June Gloom by Camila off albums t x O

605
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: x OL girl, and she.

606
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Goes, does she get this a lot for you?

607
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Baby? You haven't heard it yet? Have you listen to

608
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: the whole album? I'm scared. I'm scared to listen to

609
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: a song called June Gloom when we were just recently

610
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: in that in that month. Well, thank god we've left

611
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: it because finally Pride month, it's July, and we are

612
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: so excited as always represent the community. We love you all,

613
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: and this is the podcast where every gay person can

614
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: feel represented. Leizia Boutique is here to stay. It's here

615
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: to stay. How do you feel about how the word

616
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: is caught on it has?

617
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: I feel really touched by the way the community has

618
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: really gotten together.

619
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: I get so well.

620
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: First, baby, I thought collectivism was over.

621
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: No, it's just beginning.

622
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: It's it's just beginning, just beginning.

623
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Collectivism is just beginning.

624
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why wait?

625
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Thinking about the no I'm thinking about his story, the

626
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: story that Jimmy Fowley shared on this podcast that he

627
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: then shared at a pitch meeting on Monday, which was unforgetted.

628
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: The way Jimmy Fowley slays.

629
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best Nill but in the room every day,

630
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: You've never seen a room more obsessed with the game.

631
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: Then he is the gay king of SNL. I like

632
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: it was always him, always Jimmy fucking Folly.

633
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: But he remember that where he shout on the podcast

634
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: where like he found out his X was cheating on

635
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: him or something, and he so then he threw I

636
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: forgot what he threw something at the car door. It

637
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: was a full baseball bat. There was a full baseball

638
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: bat like a water bottle. He literally busts the windows

639
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: in your car, Like he literally he he like did

640
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: that song to his X. And then the except what

641
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: the fuck?

642
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: And and the Jimmy swerves like flips to you and

643
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: in the most cinematic way, goes it says to him,

644
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: this is just the beginning.

645
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning. Can you believe that his

646
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: episode of Lost Coach is not called this is just

647
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the beginning? What was called Greek sick freaks. I remember

648
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: that one again because that was when you guys really

649
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: knew each other. We did not know each other, but

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Speaker 1: I have been a Jimmy Fallley super since the the begining. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that was it was Go Go Boy interrupt.

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Speaker 3: Go Go Boy interrupted. He's so fucking funny. Jimmy is

653
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Speaker 3: a natural lightning rod. Where we're talking. It is just

654
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Speaker 3: the beginning. But that's what collectivism is, just beginning. Collectivism

655
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Speaker 3: is just beginning. You have such a good memory.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that we're so we know ourselves out

657
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Speaker 1: so much because we can feel how dark everything is

658
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Speaker 1: all around us? Is that why you think we know ourselves? Like,

659
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Speaker 1: let's really get real. Yeah, Why do you each and

660
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: every day choose to numb the pain? Drugs? Alcohol? Why

661
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Speaker 1: do you think? Why do you think you can't face

662
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Speaker 1: how dark the world is? Is it? Because if you start,

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Speaker 1: you won't stop asking question h Despair, that's what what

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Speaker 1: we all want to avoid. You will fall into it.

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Speaker 1: You will fall into despair, You will fall into disguss

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Speaker 1: just for the weed again, what was it like watching

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Speaker 1: did you watch? You didn't know? You didn't watch the

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Speaker 1: deviseial working, but like being in Vancou vibes were like

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Speaker 1: we were on stat and then like I have not

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Speaker 1: seen a single sound from that debate, and that's how

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Speaker 1: scared you. No, be afraid, be very afraid.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to hear either of them talk,

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Speaker 3: but especially not Joe. Uh yeah, the descriptions that were

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Speaker 3: coming out just verbally like that I was just reading.

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Speaker 1: I was just like no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: And I say this as a dual citizen.

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Speaker 1: Can honestly, I was thinking of you, and I'm like, like,

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Speaker 1: my girl has some place to go. I'm lucky. Now,

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Speaker 1: isn't that fucked up? The like that's where we're at, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: can't talk about that? I mean the thing is like

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Speaker 1: I guess we can't talk about it because we don't

682
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Speaker 1: want to make vibes bad, but like, isn't that fucked up?

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Speaker 1: Though we can't even talk about it because it is

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Speaker 1: a vibe destroyer and low key it should it should be,

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Speaker 1: I guess because I was like so, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I was like an a tear this

687
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Speaker 1: morning is because like that shit happened with the Supreme Court,

688
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: where like I don't know x y Z here probably

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Speaker 1: something different by the time this comes out, but like whatever,

690
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Speaker 1: today it got even worse, and I was just like, God,

691
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: damn it, Like when is someone just gonna stuck come

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Speaker 1: in and just fucking like save us or like no one,

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Speaker 1: no one, no one's gonna do it, like but I'm

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Speaker 1: just like we And then I was like thinking about

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Speaker 1: how high I was and everything, and I was just like, God,

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta stop and at some point just

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Speaker 1: be like this thing that we have been fearing coming,

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00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: this election that we have been fearing coming, is gonna come.

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Speaker 1: And I think the debates made that very clear for

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Speaker 1: me the other night, where I was like, Wow, he

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Speaker 1: really is the person that we are choosing to go

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Speaker 1: up against, someone who is a full blown dictator. This

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Speaker 1: is the guy. This is the guy that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the best thing for everyone under him is to be

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Speaker 1: like support and support and support him, someone might have

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Speaker 1: to step up and be like, no, no, I am

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Speaker 1: the strong, powerful voice of this party and I am

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Speaker 1: not going to allow decorum to like send us into

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Speaker 1: a tailspin. Because we need someone to step up and

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Speaker 1: be like we are strong. You don't have to be

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Speaker 1: afraid we are going to preserve democracy.

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Speaker 5: Yea, really, I feel like there is like we all

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Speaker 5: long for someone not to throw the wicked reference, but

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Speaker 5: we all long for someone to be behind the curtain

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Speaker 5: in the Emerald City of the Democratic Party, who's here

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Speaker 5: pulling strings or ready to save us. I do not

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Speaker 5: think that person exists. Oh, I do not think there's

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Speaker 5: anyone behind the curtain. I don't know that there's anyone

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Speaker 5: driving the car at this point, I think the closest

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Speaker 5: person we have is Obama. Like we I think collectively,

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Speaker 5: the people who I know who are the most intelligent

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Speaker 5: and well read on just the political process and whether

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Speaker 5: or not he could be replaced lost all folk that

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Speaker 5: that could be a plan.

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Speaker 1: When Obama tweeted the next.

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Speaker 2: Step, the Obama tweet fucking sunk my soul.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's the.

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Speaker 5: Closest that we have to someone who's powering the Democratic

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Speaker 5: Party and is the quote unquote pulling the strings behind

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Speaker 5: the curtain. But beyond that, like, I don't know that

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Speaker 5: that person is there.

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Speaker 1: There's no like strangehold in here because it's so personal

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Speaker 1: to this one man's condition, and it's like it's so

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Speaker 1: that's what's fucked up about. There's no like lobbying into

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Speaker 1: like getting him to drop out, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: There's no like money you can throw at that problem.

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Speaker 2: It's like this isn't this is an old man who

739
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Speaker 2: like is too stubborn to make that decision.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's it's gotten to a point where

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Speaker 1: it's like why are we lying to ourselves? Like why

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Speaker 1: would we protect him? That this is the person that's

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Speaker 1: gonna make us look the strongest. We need to look

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Speaker 1: strong and he he literally is in fact quite depressing.

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Speaker 1: Like that's the thing is like you do need to

746
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Speaker 1: be able to center a campaign around a person. That

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Speaker 1: is the way this works. And if the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is like well low key, we can't do that. But

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Speaker 1: it's about bigger than him, It's like, but why does

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Speaker 1: it have to be that we can't just put someone

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Speaker 1: in there? If it's about more than him, that's more inspiring.

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Speaker 1: I get that there's like rules, and I understand that

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Speaker 1: people disagree, but it's just like hard to look at

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Speaker 1: it the way that it is and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what what we have to do is support

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Speaker 1: the current situation harder. What that doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 5: Four do you smoke a joy and go from Camilla

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Speaker 5: Cobo cxx to the end.

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Speaker 1: But this is lost cult. This is lost and that's

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Speaker 1: that's on lost culture.

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00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 5: Reasons that maybe that's on lost culture stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I think it speaks to just the way that

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Speaker 1: c x o x O speaks to her life right now,

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Speaker 1: this episode speaks to. That's why this is called m

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Speaker 1: r B y x O XO.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was called Okay, but yet, what's it called?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was called something else? Did we name

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Speaker 3: this episode?

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Speaker 1: What was it? It was a lot going on with

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Speaker 1: the going on.

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Speaker 2: No, it's m r B y x O x.

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Speaker 1: Cute girls with stick minds or should it be que

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Speaker 1: girls with sick minds? Period?

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Speaker 5: Talking about something that could actually save democracy? The man

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Speaker 5: behind the curtain. Uh, they're painting the Brat wall again today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is huge. They're painting the Brat wall again. The

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Speaker 1: best political news we've gotten in can't trust Red, can't

778
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: trust Blue, you can't trust Green. That's number fifty eight.

779
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: You can't trust Red, you can't trust you can't trust green.

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Speaker 1: Sympathy is a knife featuring tailor and y'all, y'all are sick.

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Speaker 1: It would never happen. It's never going to happen. A

782
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: lot going on at the moment, but not that. Oh god,

783
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: what could be next? What could she literally do?

784
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Speaker 3: Remember when she was on our podcast and said, we

785
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: joked maryam Cosby is going to be on a track

786
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: with you. She said, yeah, full remix album is going

787
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: to be her. She like implied the release of a

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Speaker 3: remix album.

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Speaker 1: Charlie has a counterpoint in the world, and it is

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Speaker 1: Mary m Cosby on the Salt Light Cast, Like maryam

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Speaker 1: Cosby is the Charlie XCX of Absolutely Yeah, I do think.

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Speaker 5: That there's gonna be a remix album because I feel

793
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: like Caroline Pullacheck and recently Marina from Marina and the

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Speaker 5: Diamonds have been so.

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Speaker 1: Bratastic on social media.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in ways where I'm like you jumping on a

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Speaker 5: Caroline gonna jump on Apple if it's the last thing she.

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Speaker 1: A g it's so good. Were you know what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do when he made it jumped period? What is

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Speaker 1: your single favorite line from Bratt to the airport that's good,

801
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: which we're gonna literally be singing it when we get

802
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Speaker 1: to the car. I'm gonna be insufferable later.

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Speaker 3: My single favorite line, It's really hard to choose for now.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's gonna be till the windows crack. I'll

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Speaker 3: be bumping that.

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Speaker 1: Till the windows crack.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine bumping that so hard that the windows shatter?

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00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: I fucking love it. I hope to God we all

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Speaker 3: get to experience that before the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy this month, this Pride month. Me too

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Speaker 1: because we are going to we have so many parties

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Speaker 1: to look forward to where people are going to be

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Speaker 1: bumping that till the windows crack.

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Speaker 2: And what's your Can I return the question to you?

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Speaker 1: This is a huge question. I'm going to say my

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Speaker 1: favorite line from brat Ah, Yeah you want a pu

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Speaker 1: like a lightning struck. I do love you had a

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Speaker 1: power like a lightning strike. I think that's really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I think that that. I listened to that song a

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Speaker 1: lot more than I so. I yeah, I thought I

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Speaker 1: thought I would. I mean, it's so sad, but it's

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Speaker 1: so beautiful and it's so like personal. I was said

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Speaker 1: to Ted who reps Charlie and reps Kelly from Atlantic Records.

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Speaker 1: The other day. I saw him at Pride and I

825
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: was like, I wish that I had gotten to listen

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Speaker 1: to that album like four or five more times before

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Speaker 1: she came in, because I don't think it hit me

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Speaker 1: till like a couple days after we recorded with her,

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Speaker 1: like and then the album came out, Like just how

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Speaker 1: much I loved it.

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Speaker 5: I should have her back on again, like Charlie Park

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Speaker 5: two after because what she didn't expect Brat to take

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Speaker 5: no what expects you don't saying no one, no one.

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Speaker 5: She was She had the number three album in the country.

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Speaker 5: She's never had that before. Like she's charting more songs

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Speaker 5: than she has in the last decade. Like I know

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Speaker 5: that she obviously she believed in the music and she's

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Speaker 5: like so smart, not only like sonically but also like

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Speaker 5: her marketing teeth taste taste, this rollout isla audible, But

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Speaker 5: I still feel like she could not have imagined what

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Speaker 5: a moment this would be.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was the vision.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the vision, but like she's just

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Speaker 5: she had such vision with Crash, she had such vision

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Speaker 5: with Pop two. Like she's it's never the music that

846
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 5: is not it's there caught up to her. The culture

847
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 5: caught up to her. She was always ahead and she

848
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Speaker 5: there's even a line on there, like it is hard

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Speaker 5: to be ahead, and she's always ahead, and her taste

850
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: is always so futuristic. But of the moment and I

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00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 5: feel like, like commercially, the audience finally responded to her

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00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: the way that they always should have, and after I

853
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 5: feel like she's had so many some would say disappointments

854
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 5: like commercially like what this might feel like and how validating.

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Speaker 1: It must feel.

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00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: I hope that she's like I would be so curious

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00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 5: from this vantage point what it feels like for her,

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Speaker 5: because this reception is like it's I feel like it

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Speaker 5: has a bigger cultural for a print than some albums

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00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 5: that were quably bigger in sales or streaming or charge numbers,

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Speaker 5: Like the cultural footprint of brat Is Jike is like

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Speaker 5: like through the straps.

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Speaker 3: This is what you need for something iconic to hit

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Speaker 3: in this way, like an attitude, Yes, it just needs

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Speaker 3: an attitude and brat Is it's literally in the title gratitude.

866
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: It's gratitude.

867
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: But like I think same for like Chapels shit, like

868
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: it's not even a point of view, like that's even

869
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: too general of a term. It's like there is like

870
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: a way you are like orienting yourself towards like this thing,

871
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: and like if other people can relate to that, then

872
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: like they're gonna fucking love it.

873
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, authenticity, Like I really feel like Chapels specifically and

874
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 5: like Charlie are both incredibly vulnerable artists which we don't

875
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: see a lot. They have a sound that we don't

876
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 5: always see honed in the way that they hone it.

877
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 5: Like you hear a Charlie's song, it's Charlie. It's no

878
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 5: one else. Everything else is imitation. Same thing with Chapel.

879
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: It's just like two singular, authentic, truthful voices who are

880
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: taking structures of songs, types of songs that we love

881
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: and putting their own spin on him in a way

882
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: where it's just like unforgettable and of the moment. And

883
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 5: it's just like those are not the two when you

884
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: named all the pop stars that are releasing albums this year,

885
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: like those weren't the two? I right would would take.

886
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: Over no way? Isn't it wild how that all shook out?

887
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about like the even pop vocal album.

888
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: This year, like half of the snubbed if she, If

889
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: Charlie doesn't get nominated, I think that will be well, this.

890
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: Is what I was saying. It was like she could

891
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: put it in dance electronic album. But my thing is

892
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: in a world where we're actually judging things for what

893
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: they are, I believe that Brat is a pop vocal

894
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: pop vocal because she is the point of view. She

895
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: is the artist, she is the star. You don't listen

896
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: to that album for the music any more than you

897
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: listen to hit Me Hard and Soft for from Billie Eilish,

898
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: for that production and that music. You could really compare

899
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: the two in that regard, and in that way, you

900
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't put Billie Eilish in dance electronic. You would

901
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: put her where she belongs, on pop vocal, and I

902
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: believe that's where Bratt belongs. That being said Renaissance one

903
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: dance electronic album two years ago, and I would absolutely

904
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: agree with people who said that that is a moment

905
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: where Beyonce is also the artist. It's not necessarily the

906
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: music you listen for. I think it's a weird case.

907
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Probably pop vocal album then as well for that album,

908
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: but it has won that category, so there is precedent

909
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: for Charlie to submit it there. I just think she

910
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: is so clearly the pop artist, you know what I mean?

911
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: Sure, although is it maybe a thing within the academy

912
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: where it's like a pop vocal album has to be

913
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: defined in this way where like the vocal is it

914
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: like too processed or whatever?

915
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 1: The fact?

916
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: Maybe in certain cases like they can submit that ours

917
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: can submit an album for category and then like there

918
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 5: are people on the Grammy committee who will listen to

919
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: it and they'll be like, actually, it's not this category,

920
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 5: it's this other category, and then they move it. So

921
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: ultimately I don't feel like it's up to them, but

922
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: I don't know. You've talked about defining dance electronics from

923
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: the pov of the music over the artist, where the

924
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: artist in the front, and for me, it is more

925
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: like a sound but either like yeah, what it sounds

926
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: like sonically, And I think Charlie straddles the line. I

927
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 5: do think three sixty should win the Padam Paddam Rush Grammy,

928
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: the new one, the pop dance recording.

929
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, yeah, definitely three sixty. I mean I think

930
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: she should do whatever it is that's gonna win her Grammys. Like,

931
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, like if Brad's gonna stomp in

932
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: there and it could be a multiple Grammy winner for

933
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: being in dance electronic fields. She should do that. But

934
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: I just think, but I think what we're all saying

935
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: is we we hope that she We hope that this

936
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: is all put into the above the line quote unquote award.

937
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Oh god, I think it's I think it should be

938
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: an Album of the Year nominee for one. Also, speaking

939
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: to the marketing, you could teach like a college course

940
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: in marketing about like you know, like I wonder if

941
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: that like Clive Davis and stuff they're talking about, which

942
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: is like the recording So basically there's like a school

943
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Adam yu Fish which is called the Clive Davis you know,

944
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Recording Academy or whatever the fuck, and you learn how

945
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: to become like a real music industry participant, whether it's

946
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: as an artist, as a producer, as a writer at something.

947
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: And I would imagine that this is something that people

948
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: are looking at, like, this is how an artist simultaneously

949
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: had all their integrity and authenticity and all their brand

950
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: already that's that's there, encompassed in something new that was

951
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: able to be market to everyone else, and also backed

952
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: it up with music that track by track, like the

953
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: mission statement of that album, the word brat was in

954
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: every single thing. And then when you think about the

955
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: things that have come in the weeks since the album's released,

956
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: like the Lord version, like the meme ability of the

957
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: way she announces things, It's like there's layers to it.

958
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: There's so much going on, and even hearing her talk

959
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: about how like no, like there were hours and hours

960
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: of discussion about the green color, Like shit, every single

961
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: detail in this is from her has been It has

962
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: been mulled over so so much in a way that

963
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: you're like, you must respect this. Come on.

964
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: There's a gay guy Pride who says that his mom

965
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: and his like straight best friends anytime they say lime

966
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 5: green out in the wild, if it's like a literal

967
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: lime or just a color of a poster, to like

968
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 5: take a photo and send it to him, and I

969
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: like you, brab brab. But also credit where credits do?

970
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: I think we have to shout out Charlie's manager Brandon,

971
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 5: who also does brand and Terry, who's her photographer and

972
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 5: has like done a lot of like design. Terry is

973
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: also Benny Drama's boyfriend. We love the sweetest in the

974
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: world and they slay the marketing roll out of this,

975
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 5: and I mean gag like we're honored that we were

976
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: a small part of it.

977
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: It's so cool. By the way your audio. I will

978
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: get to that in a second, but I want to say,

979
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: you have Coultreesa in your blood. You need you just

980
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: really in a way that was very you really served.

981
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: At his third House.

982
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: So my life has prepared me for this. But it's

983
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: because you guys create such.

984
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: A warm oh whatever, but uh wait, what would you

985
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: uh pag.

986
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: Did art? Well? We had We don't even even said

987
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: on the podcast. We had sound. The Charlie gave Charlie episode,

988
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: gave us a viral sound. It's a huge honor and

989
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: like literally the the like Kennedy's of our time. Craig

990
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: Conover and Paige Desorbo did the sound, and I said,

991
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: thank you. Now I know what true class and elegance

992
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: looks like with our silly little words coming out of

993
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: your mouth. I love that couple. Might have to watch Sumwherehouse.

994
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: I honestly everyone says that it's the next Frontier Jared

995
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: Frieder like it's his comfort food television. Well, can I say?

996
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: I just finished The Valley and I was like I

997
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: was promised very big things and I didn't. I do

998
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: not think it lived up to those things.

999
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 5: Valley's a little too dark for me. If I wanted

1000
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: to see straight people getting divorced, I just look around

1001
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: the real world. I want escape from Bravo. I want escape,

1002
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: and escape is brought to you in the form of

1003
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 5: Summer House Page Disorbo, the funniest person on Bravo, the

1004
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 5: voice of reason in the way that Bethany always wanted

1005
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: to be but never was, because she's you know, Bethany

1006
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: and this It was the Scandabal season where basically Lindsay

1007
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: and Carl, who'd been on the show from the beginning

1008
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: and we're best friends, decided to get engaged too fast,

1009
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 5: and then their engagement imploded on the cameras in front

1010
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 5: of the whole world to see. And for some reason,

1011
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: it didn't feel as dark as the Valley because there's

1012
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 5: the escapism of like the other characters, where the Valley.

1013
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: Is the kids involved in shit. It's so sad when

1014
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: there's people arguing in kids nearby. I'm always like Stevo,

1015
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: I always want to just scream, scream out like.

1016
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Sky Cugo want a sicklind.

1017
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: And just distract from everything, you know. You know, I

1018
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: wish when I was a little little boy and my

1019
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: parents some bitterly fight, I could just, at three years

1020
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: old have been like cute, Oh girl, I want to

1021
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: stick mine. Sound is really incredible. Can you think so, well,

1022
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: maybe we should use our voices to speak out about

1023
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: something called I don't think so, honey. Wait, I quickly

1024
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: want to say, oh no, maybe this is no I've

1025
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: got too. I don't think somebody something to get one

1026
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: thing out of the way, which is so this is

1027
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: something you just want to speak on. Beat caably didn't

1028
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: bring this up, Earli. When we're talking about Gaga, the

1029
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: rumor is Diddy's lawyers finally fired him. Do you know

1030
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: why why Because allegedly Gaga, who they also represent, called

1031
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: him and was like, I'm firing you guys. If you

1032
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: don't fucking drop ditty this second, how dare you? And

1033
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: they're like okay, ok, but like god, I don't think

1034
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: so many of those fucking lawyers. I'm sure they're great.

1035
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: But if you if it like you have no moral

1036
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: conscience like to oh and oh my god, this is

1037
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: like Austin willshit and things are right, The tops are

1038
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: falling left and right. Literally did he at top? No,

1039
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like he's not the Let's just say

1040
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: Austin Wolf was not the only top or are there

1041
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: other ones too that are like falling apart? Michael Lucas like,

1042
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: oh man, he's been far gone forever. Oh god, Michael

1043
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Lucas has been fucking disgusting. It doesn't matter where you

1044
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: stand on things, He's just been disgusting. Yeah, and not

1045
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: not good, but anyway, like like signing Israeli missiles with

1046
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: like Michael Lucas, like it's fucking pretty fucked up. Fuck

1047
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: fuck fuck you. Yeah, and anyway, So but like, yeah,

1048
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: there's some all these all these men are going.

1049
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Down and oh whatever.

1050
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: There are great wonderful tops out there that aren't like this, okay,

1051
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: and that's really cool there, remember what.

1052
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: But I think fifty are great wonderful tops out there

1053
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: who are not them are on all this stuff. For

1054
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: those of you just google it, google it. It's just oh,

1055
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: it's going down, you guys, like it's going down anyway,

1056
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: c xo x So it's time for I don't think so, honey,

1057
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: And uh, I guess I'll go first Okay, Wow, this

1058
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: episode has been a wild and rollick. It's been a

1059
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: wild and weloking right. Thank you for joining us on it, readers.

1060
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Katie's publicist vital Lie, I got my thing. This is

1061
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: now Rodgers. I don't think so many his time starts now.

1062
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The use of the word

1063
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: darling in songs like it's something people say a few

1064
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: months ago. My sister bo when young didn't. I don't

1065
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: think so, honey. About when people say goddamn and songs

1066
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: as filler. There is nothing more filler than when someone

1067
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: says darling. Literally, no one ever in life, least of

1068
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: all a cool pop star that is like millennial age

1069
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: or younger, is referring to any significant other or friend

1070
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: or family member as darling. So when we have a

1071
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: song and the word is darling, queen, we know it

1072
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: could have gone through another couple passes. And yes, I

1073
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: have been sitting here singing the praises of one c xoxo.

1074
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: She's sang darling in the song in a way that

1075
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe from Camilaicabella, who's throwing it back on

1076
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: Dade County Dreaming just a few tracks before, like I

1077
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know if that girl's being like, hey, darling, let's

1078
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: go out to the club, like I don't believe it.

1079
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: Darling is filler, Darling is not good. I don't think so, honey, darling.

1080
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, honey, that you say darling. And

1081
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what. Admit it, y'all feeling me?

1082
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: I feel you so hard, Like guess what was it

1083
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: nominated for the Culture Award for old timey thing to

1084
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: say again.

1085
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: My darling, darling, darling, dear, you.

1086
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: Only use it, ironically, you only use it because language

1087
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 3: is a beautiful like palette to choose from.

1088
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: She literally is like what does she said? She goes,

1089
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: does she get this wet for your baby? And then

1090
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: she's like, so does something, my darling. I'm like, no,

1091
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: you don't, like you don't say how wet you are?

1092
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: And then my darling, in the same sentence like like

1093
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: no one's coming home and seeing you in the bed,

1094
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: and it's like and you're like, I'm so wet, darling.

1095
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: That's the sick mind mind that you're looking. I think

1096
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: that I'm telling this.

1097
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: There, what are you talking? I was craving it is

1098
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: like I'm so wet, darling. And I'm still wet Darling

1099
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: and fan voicemail about his dog dying. Literally, it's like,

1100
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: this girl is okay, and I hope she's getting the

1101
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: help that we support her all the way. But it

1102
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: made an album that was serrated serrated, srated, and Freda

1103
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: said underrated. Oh bon Yang, are you gallonized? Are you

1104
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: ready to do it? I don't think so, honey. I'm ready.

1105
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: This is doing things. I don't think so, honey. As

1106
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: time starts now, I.

1107
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: Don't think so, honey. Delta three sixty Club, how can

1108
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: I get the invite? I think all three of us

1109
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: here at this table should get the invite. All matt

1110
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: as already. Of course, that's amazing.

1111
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: But I looked it up. I looked it up.

1112
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: I was like, well, how do you qualify for three

1113
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: sixty because it's just like a big secret only invite,

1114
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: only thing.

1115
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: You need to you get a default invitation. If you're

1116
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: five million miler.

1117
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: Oh honey, who's got the time? Are there even that

1118
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: many miles?

1119
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds? That's a travel in a life, right, I

1120
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: don't know about that. It's giving very SNL ticket lotterial.

1121
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: You will draw what you'll draw your name in forty years.

1122
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: It's it's just why would you ever do that?

1123
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 3: Because even back when I was growing up, quote unquote,

1124
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not signing.

1125
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna go that in once. See, some people

1126
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: aren't as lucky as Matt Rogers, even though I'm certainly blessed.

1127
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: But Delta sixty.

1128
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: When I'm in the mirror, I like what I see

1129
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 2: and I want to see myself in the club.

1130
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. I don't think so, honey, that's one minute.

1131
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: Oh that was really good. Yeah, I'm a three sixty member.

1132
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: When did you get the invite? Tell me? Girl?

1133
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell me?

1134
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: It's just same girl? They got that on one dye

1135
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: they proposed to me. I don't remember. I just literallyicked

1136
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: on my phone one day and I was like, oh,

1137
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm a three sixty member, and I don't really recall

1138
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: how it happened. So jealous. I don't know what the

1139
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: perks are though, Like, what is it you just get

1140
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: to I don't know, Sleigh. I mean, I did fly

1141
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: so fucking much, right, Well, I mean, I just I

1142
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: guess I'm jealous of you. What's three Yeah? Current status

1143
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: Delta three sixty.

1144
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm jealous because you're three sixty and because you have

1145
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 3: stepped into your destiny with get out of my dreams

1146
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: and into my are Get.

1147
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: On of mad dreams.

1148
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: It's now time for Jared Frieder. I don't think so, honey.

1149
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: Do you have one? Do you? I know you can

1150
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: do one on this episode You've contributed and contributed. That

1151
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: all means that you come through with I don't think so, honey.

1152
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 5: Okay, give me five seconds.

1153
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I have it. Ah, do you want to tie him?

1154
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: One second? Yeah, I'll time him. This is Jared Frieder's

1155
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 3: I don't think sobody. As time starts new, I don't.

1156
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 5: Think so honey. Radio counting for too much to the

1157
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: Billboard Hot one hundred. Why is Morgan Wallin still at

1158
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 5: number one? Fatay six week in a row, when Espresso

1159
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: my Girl is still stuck at number three?

1160
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: It's radio.

1161
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 5: I don't need these country radio stations playing these racists

1162
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 5: on and on and on so they can top the charts.

1163
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 5: That's not why I'm gay, That's not why Billboard's my homepage.

1164
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: I don't need to see that man's face. I want Sabrina,

1165
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: I want Chapel, I want Charlie. I want the streams

1166
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 5: to count for more. I wantn't know what the people

1167
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 5: are listening to. Okay, that should be reflected in these charts.

1168
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: I'm tired of. I'm tired of I mean much left

1169
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: to iHeartRadio, sponsor and host of Lost but somebody, but

1170
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 5: some of these other radio stations are just out out

1171
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 5: of control and it's too much. And I think that

1172
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 5: we would have gotten I think two most Wanted would

1173
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 5: have charted higher. I think more of Tortured Poet to

1174
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 5: have charted higher. Country go back to country radio and

1175
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 5: less You're Meren Morris and then honey, welcome you can say,

1176
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 5: especially now that you're the be in legitimatigue?

1177
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: Did I say that right?

1178
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 5: You did?

1179
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: And that's one minute charid uh So, how do you

1180
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: know the country artists don't stream well?

1181
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 5: They stream well? But the reason that like Espresso was

1182
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: blocked from the top spot when like the More the

1183
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 5: World was because of Morgan and just like other other

1184
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 5: radio friendly songs like we love Tody Swims, we love

1185
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 5: Lose Control, we love Benson, but we love beautiful things.

1186
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: But these songs that feel like they are not in

1187
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: the culture but remain on the charts because the clause

1188
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 5: and grips of like forty five year old men who.

1189
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Program radio is stupid.

1190
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you, are you using the

1191
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: word radio as like a short to just saying country radio,

1192
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: because I think it's just country radio playing. It's like

1193
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: one part of the radio, like peace exactly.

1194
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 5: But country radio stations, I feel like, take so much

1195
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: of the airwaves because that demographic of people still listen

1196
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 5: to the radio more than other people do. And I

1197
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 5: just think that, like the way that the charts work

1198
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 5: is that I forget the breakdown of percentage, but streaming

1199
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 5: purchasing like iTunes, then like YouTube, and like when you're

1200
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 5: watching something like that's gone viral, and then radio. All

1201
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: are different components to what adds to it's too big

1202
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 5: of a coming, too big of a percentage, And I

1203
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: think that like in the old and timey days, radio

1204
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 5: indicated what songs were the biggest in the country because

1205
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: that was the way that you got music to the people.

1206
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 5: And now that is not the way that we get

1207
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 5: music to the people. People can choose their own music,

1208
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: and that really indicates what's number one in the country.

1209
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 5: And I think that radio should count for a lot less.

1210
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: But Isn't it true though, that like that would be

1211
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: like because if a lot of people like in the

1212
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: middle and south of the country, like don't have streamers

1213
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: and they do listen to the radio, like it still

1214
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: is an accurate reflection of the fact that those songs

1215
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: are huge.

1216
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 5: I think that people in the south in the middle

1217
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 5: of the country are on Spotify and Apple Music. I

1218
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 5: think that like it's no longer like an economic thing

1219
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 5: because there are ad supportive services where people it's like

1220
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 5: not it's not like a haves and have nots thing.

1221
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 5: Like you could make the argument during like the iTunes

1222
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: era when it was like Gaga and keshow and we

1223
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 5: were in college and it was like radio or iTunes.

1224
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 5: Well then like of course radio because not everyone can

1225
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 5: purchase music in that way. But it's so much more

1226
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 5: democratized now, like it really it's not like an economic

1227
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 5: factor in the way that it was, So I just

1228
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 5: think it's a little outdated. I still think it should

1229
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 5: make up a portion of percentage points that add to

1230
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: where something charts, but I don't think it should be

1231
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 5: as high as it is now. Like there's no reason

1232
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 5: that Espresso did not get number, Like it's crazy that

1233
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 5: Espresso's not number one in the States, right, It's crazy.

1234
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: I think there is some weighting weightedness around radio.

1235
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also the fact is like when a song

1236
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: played on the radio, like that is like no one

1237
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: hit play for it, like right, like a radio station

1238
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: was chose to program a certain amount of songs. And

1239
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: also I know there's like a lot of you know talk,

1240
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Maren talked about it when she was on

1241
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: this podcast, like, you know, country radio is not kind

1242
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: to women, and it's very competitive, which is you know,

1243
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: it's just the these stations are literally saying, Okay, we

1244
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: have twenty songs that we play and that's it. Like

1245
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: people actually going on Spotify and clicking on certain songs,

1246
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: like is an elective like action that should be rewarded

1247
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: in the charts. That being said, I also wonder how

1248
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: and I do have some experience with this, having put

1249
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: out an album in one song was put on playlists. Yeah,

1250
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: that is also very powerful and also serves as a

1251
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: thing that someone's not necessarily electing to do because you know,

1252
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: it's on a playlist and you might just be playing

1253
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: that playlist. But I do agree with you.

1254
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 5: The first response to that is you have to listen

1255
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 5: to a song for thirty seconds of the stream so

1256
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 5: they can hit click next and it doesn't count.

1257
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: Yes.

1258
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 5: And then the second thing that I'll also say is that,

1259
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: just like Girl So confusing, the Lord version was not

1260
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 5: on New Music Friday on the playlist on Spotify, and

1261
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 5: I was like, shook, I it's one of the biggest

1262
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 5: releases that week culturally again, and the stream suffer.

1263
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: No.

1264
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 5: A debuted at number sixty three because even if it's

1265
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 5: not on a playlist, if the people want to listen

1266
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 5: to it, they will find it.

1267
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: But had it been playlisted, it also would have happened

1268
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: like a right, So we know that there is something

1269
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: in the streaming world that does also serve as a

1270
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: radio type of waiter that might affect something like this totally. Now, Jared,

1271
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: I feel like, has a very granular knowledge of this

1272
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: because he is in a very competitive Billboard Fantasy Charts lead.

1273
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to speak on that?

1274
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to Emmitt, our friend Emmitt from there. Yeah,

1275
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 5: I'm in the Billboard Hot one hundreds Fantasy League, and

1276
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 5: I always lose because whereas other people will look at

1277
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 5: what's charting or like what albums are coming out I'm like, oh,

1278
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 5: I will pick Taylor Swift every I don't care if

1279
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 5: she was in an album coming out, I will pick Taylor.

1280
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 5: I always picked the girls. I will pick Miley. Did

1281
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 5: Miley have an album when I had her for a

1282
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 5: whole semester she didn't. But I need to pick my girls.

1283
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 5: So I always lose. But it's really fun and it's

1284
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 5: a fun way to keep up with music.

1285
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: Even lose on Taylor.

1286
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 5: Well, it's because sometimes I don't get a pick tailor.

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Speaker 5: Because this round, I like, my draft pick was Solo

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Speaker 5: and she was dropping.

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Speaker 1: Who she get?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, my first pick was Billy, which ended up

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Speaker 5: being a great and that's she performed at the end.

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Speaker 5: But Met himself was like, you should trade Billy, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, she's going to come out with an album.

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Speaker 5: It's going to sligh. So she ended up doing really well.

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Speaker 5: I had Megan thee Stallion for a little while, traded her.

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Speaker 5: I have Kendrick Lamar, which has worked out for me

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Speaker 5: in spades because of this wrap feud. Oh oh yes,

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Speaker 5: I was telling me that, oh yeah, that's very huge.

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Speaker 5: And I had Jack Harlowe, which at the time when

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Speaker 5: we did the draft, loving on me is like was

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Speaker 5: then number one for six weeks, and I still hold

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Speaker 5: the record in my fantasy league for having the most

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Speaker 5: number ones even though I don't earn the most points.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot, and it's a lot we have. We

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Speaker 2: have to thank Jack Carlow.

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Speaker 1: We have to thank Jeff. We have to thank Jack Carlow.

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Speaker 1: And we also have to thank Jared because Jared came

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Speaker 1: on this episode mad as hell and he you spit

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Speaker 1: so much rhyme and bars.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. It was it was a pleasure

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Speaker 5: to be here.

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Speaker 2: Cute boy with a mine.

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Speaker 1: I have one more thing to say, Yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to say to everyone before we go on vacation? Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, this is what you're gonna leave

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Speaker 1: them with? The airport to the airport?

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Speaker 2: He hope, Goga it doesn't Moon album, but I think

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Speaker 2: she will.

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Speaker 1: You want to know why why? Because and every episode

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Speaker 1: of the song oh hell us some of the rest

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Speaker 1: of that stream arm Bob, that's what is it for?

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Speaker 1: This what stream art bob.

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Speaker 2: Last Culture reacis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

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Speaker 2: Money Players. And then I heard radio podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang Executive

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Speaker 1: produced by Anna Hasnier and Hans Sonni. Produced by Becka Ramos,

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Speaker 1: edited mixed by Doug Damian, ANIFLA board and our music

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Speaker 1: is by Hendrick Murski