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Speaker 4: Boys, I'm gonna give you the Knicks.

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Speaker 5: I'm just look, I'm I'm just I don't know shit

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Speaker 5: because i feel like they've created the most chaos on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, taking down the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: I was actually just a game. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Game four. It was in New York. I was there

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Speaker 1: actually with fan Duel. I was up in their suite,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something was down. Brown has like a torn mc

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Speaker 3: Who is that? Was that a Celtics fan?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, stabbing fights and.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, if we can just throw a nice bag

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Speaker 1: I'm a Caitlin Clark fan.

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Speaker 1: Do think that Angel Reese does not like Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, that's probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to

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Speaker 1: But that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel

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Speaker 1: I agree. You need Angel Reese to have this hatredge

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Speaker 1: since she's getting elbows thrown at our people are loving that.

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Speaker 1: People love physicality in sports. That's what fans love. That's

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Speaker 4: Before we go any further, can we just get a

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Speaker 4: quick moment of sounds from my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: You know that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Buffalo Savers fans. Toronto Maple Leafs was

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Speaker 4: I will say this, if we can be nasty about

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Speaker 4: Toronto now they're in Game seven, in the biggest game

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Speaker 4: in your franchise's history since nineteen sixty seven, when you

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Speaker 3: It was like three goals within ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: Buddy, and they just got after them over and over

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Speaker 4: He was a goalie, correct, He became a sieve in

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, history repeats itself, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Toronto Maple Leafs had folded and basically every game seven

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Speaker 1: So I actually did my first NHL bet on FanDuel

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Speaker 1: Sports book last night, two hundred dollars on the Florida

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Speaker 1: Panthers just beating the Toronto Maple Leafs straight up, and

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Speaker 1: I won. Let me pull it up, man, I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you. It's my first I've ever made the world.

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Speaker 3: Taylor put five grande.

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Speaker 1: Uh that must have not wor no.

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Speaker 4: Didn't hit it did?

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Speaker 4: Of like Taylor a lot more and got his.

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Speaker 1: At let me go. It was actually my first bat

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Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee too, which is really cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, right here, Tennessee settled. Look at that Florida

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Speaker 1: Panthers total wager two hundred dollars one three forty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night,

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Speaker 4: and I'm just thinking to myself, God, damn it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just watching.

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Speaker 4: I was doing the same thing. Was right now my

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Speaker 4: last I lost four bets with the Toronto maple Leafs

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Speaker 4: that's not gonna come come together anymore. That's now dead.

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Speaker 3: People who are able to see Raffie down here, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's like a French bulldog. That's the grandfather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not opposed to him.

438
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,679
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit opposed to him.

439
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 1: So it's him. Yeah one, So this is you're a

440
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 1: good frenchy.

441
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 4: I'm not a French. You guy, I think, got a

442
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 4: good coat on him. He's got good broad shoulders, got

443
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 4: a nice coat on the boy, looks good. Got a

444
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 4: piece on him too.

445
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: About these balls that I haven't I haven't seen around

446
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 1: Ralph there is nickname is Ralph.

447
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to make them uncomfortable. But yeah, yeah,

448
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 4: good looking dog. I just.

449
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good boy.

450
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 4: This is a tough start to me in this podcast.

451
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 1: For me, you know, walk off the bus, bus driver,

452
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 1: open up the door. Ralph and I getting off. We're

453
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 1: going for a walk. Yeah, to think about this, we

454
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 1: need to take a couple of deep breasts.

455
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 4: Aren't these guys like made in the lab?

456
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: Like?

457
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 4: Aren't they like not?

458
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 1: I know that that is one thing that they say

459
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 1: about it. I just kind of plugged my ears when

460
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 1: people start.

461
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 4: They got a lot of health issues too, right.

462
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: A lot of health issues. But this guy, he stays

463
00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 1: in top shape, but he's pretty healthy. But a majority

464
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: of them, I mean, for how healthy he is, it's

465
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 1: still like a full time job just making sure that

466
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 1: he's healthy. But uh, you know, you got to keep

467
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 1: him active. If you don't keep him active, then that's

468
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: when all the health problems definitely really start.

469
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 4: Put them on the treadmill.

470
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: They're so their personalities are through their roof. They're like

471
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: human beings. They're the best to be one on one

472
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: with them. They're they're just so entertaining and loving.

473
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 4: That's awesome. I'm happy for you.

474
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, You're happy.

475
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 4: That's it, bro, That's all I can do.

476
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: Off the bus.

477
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: Dude, let's talk about growing up. So you grew up?

478
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 1: He ran over.

479
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: So you group in Buffalo with me?

480
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: Guy? Yeah, give him a shout out, you know, good

481
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: guy like.

482
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 4: Surgeon.

483
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: I had some you know, vitamins this morning, some n

484
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: A D that make sure I'm clear minded.

485
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: So thank you to a Yeah, dude, Buffalo, you grew

486
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: up in Buffalo. How do you head the Tucson, Arizona?

487
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: All right?

488
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 4: Was it dirtbags?

489
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually,

490
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 1: I'd never been to dirt bags before until I actually

491
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: went to the NFL, and then I was old enough.

492
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: When I came back on a visit, uh after my

493
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: rookie year, I was twenty one, so I finally got

494
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: to go to dirtbags. I didn't hit any bars. When

495
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: I say no, no, I really, I mean I wouldn't

496
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 1: admit it, like, no big deal. I didn't hit any bars.

497
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 1: When I was at the University of Arizona, it was

498
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: literally all house parties or going to a frat party

499
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: or having our own house party, or just running around

500
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: the streets just trying to get into a bar, but

501
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: not getting into the bar because I was, you know,

502
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: never of age. But so my brothers were getting recruited

503
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: out of high school and uh, my brother Chris, who

504
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: was two years older than me, Well, first off, my

505
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: dad's in the business of selling fitness equipment. He's been

506
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: in the business for thirty five years now. And then

507
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: he became best friends with a guy named Donnie who

508
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: did the same thing as him, that was an alumni

509
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: at the University of Arizona but sold Alleys equipment in Arizona.

510
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: So then you know, they go on a work trip

511
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: where Life Fitness brings everyone because they both sell Life

512
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 1: Fitness products. And then what is it like a fitness convention?

513
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: And then that's where they met and they became best friends.

514
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: And then when we were all just kids, so like

515
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: alumni Arizona was like, bring your kids out to Arizona.

516
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: I know the coaches, I'll get them, you know, I'll

517
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: try to get them a scholarship, show them the film,

518
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: bring them out on a trip. Come on, we got

519
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: to get it done. So I went on a trip

520
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: with my brother when he was a senior when he

521
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: went to the University of Arizona, and my dad was like, hey,

522
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: you're up next in line, Like, come on the trip,

523
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: see what it's all about. To get recruited. And then

524
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: the University of Arizona was the very first cool I've

525
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: basically ever seen in my life, and I fell in

526
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: love with the place. My sophomore year in high school,

527
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a college. This is this

528
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I mean it's ninety degrees, palm trees. We

529
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: went by a pool party and like as a sophomore year,

530
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: you know in.

531
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 3: High school, you're like home market out in Arizona.

532
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

533
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, those Arizona schools ASUU and the Nuts exactly.

534
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: And then that's how I that's how I got to

535
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: University of I fell in love with it when I

536
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting trip,

537
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: and then they started recruiting me from there. After my

538
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: brother chose to go to the Universe of Maryland. Then

539
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: he actually transferred to the Universe of Arizona and played

540
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: with me there for two years, and he was the

541
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: full back and I was the tight end and we

542
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: were on the field at the same time for a year,

543
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: which was just super cool to have and just ball

544
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: out with my brother. So that's how I got there.

545
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Long story, show.

546
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: Show you were Were you highly recruited coming out of

547
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: high school?

548
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a four star. I was in the

549
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Rivals top on hun your fifty. I was like the

550
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: fifth tight end on the board. He was Fernandez was

551
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: actually number one really there. Yeah, we were in the

552
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: same class. He was number one, and then there's a

553
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they

554
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: never made it to the NFL, I don't think, but

555
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was you know the whole

556
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: entire recruiting process I went through. It was you know,

557
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: enjoyable because my top four, you know were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse,

558
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: and Arizona. And everyone was just so surprised that I,

559
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west.

560
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: But I just fell in love with that place from

561
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Love. Clemson almost went there. That was

562
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me.

563
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: I kind of just took a visit there because it

564
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: was the Ohio State University. I mean, I could definitely

565
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: see myself fitting in there, you know, I can can

566
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: see myself being a Buck guy. That's when Jim Tressel

567
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: was the head coach too. The facilities were insane as well.

568
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: And then Syracuse my dad went to, but the program

569
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: was just so down low at the time. Yeah, and

570
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to get out of the

571
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: state of New York. I didn't want to go back to,

572
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, basically home where I grew up in Buffalo,

573
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: So Arizona was just a right thing.

574
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit?

575
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

576
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: To where you were, what was it you were hungover.

577
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: I was super hungover. So I was a senior. I

578
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school, so

579
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: it was an easy trip to go over, you know,

580
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: to Ohio State when they were recruiting me and then

581
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: all my friends for Buffalo. They were all old than me,

582
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: and some of them went to the Ohio State University.

583
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: So I took my official visit there and I went

584
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: out with my friends the night before the game and

585
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: they showed me around. We actually got in a fight,

586
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: which wasn't surprising. That was my last time I basically

587
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: brought I used to fight all the time when I

588
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: was a senior in high school because I was visiting

589
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: my brothers at the University of Maryland and they were

590
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: just bad ass motherfuckers, him and his roommates, and they

591
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: were just brawl every weekend. I would show up and

592
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: just joined.

593
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: Hey, Rob, we want to go get this one in.

594
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: We would literally walk from the bar and just try

595
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: to pick a fight on the way home. I was

596
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: running into people on purpose, and then next thing you know,

597
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: it was a five on five brawl. I was getting

598
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: thrown down a hill. My brother kicked the guy in

599
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: the face. Next thing I know, I look up the

600
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: hill and the guy's falling down the hill. That threw

601
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: me down the hill. But I got in a little fight.

602
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't that big of a fight at the at

603
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: the Ohio State. It was just a little you know,

604
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: scuffle and uh. But we had a good time. And

605
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: the next morning went to the game. I think that

606
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: was Ohio State versus I forgot who they were playing,

607
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: but I was hurting.

608
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: Look at this guy in the bottom all the waters and.

609
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: I have, yeah, all the did Ohio State? Did any

610
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: of the staff know that you'd got in a fight

611
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: the night before?

612
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no clue, no clue. It wasn't that big

613
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: of a fight. It wasn't worth, you know, being in

614
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: the news either. It wasn't newsworthy. It wasn't like there's

615
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: no like phones back then or which was the best time.

616
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm so glad none of that ship existed like when

617
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: I was in college, Like it was an era of

618
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: like the South. The camera phones were just beginning when

619
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to

620
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: be a superstar in college right now. You can't like

621
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: really live a college life because everyone has those camera phones.

622
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: If you go out, you know, to a house party's

623
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: going to be filmed, Like that's not cool at that age. Yeah,

624
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: you really can't have that true college experience. And I

625
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: feel like I was that last era to be able

626
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: to do all the crazy shit without ever being on

627
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter us.

628
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't as good as you know. I was in

629
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: the NFL as I was in college. I was a

630
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: good player, but it's not like, you know, people knew

631
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: me like that. I could ride around you.

632
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: But you chose to leave earlier.

633
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I left early as well.

634
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to

635
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: be able to enter your name.

636
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: Into the drum.

637
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, which sucked because I didn't even play my junior year. Really, Yeah,

638
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: which sucked. I was about the ball out man. I

639
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: was ready to go. My junior year, Nick Foles with

640
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: our quarterback. We had a solid team. We went eight

641
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: and four that year. My brother was the full back

642
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: as well, so it sucked. I complay with my brother,

643
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: my friends with Foles. We were bawling in the spring

644
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: game as well, Like eight catchers for like one hundred

645
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: in the spring game. And that was the first time

646
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: that we even played together, Foles and I, and then

647
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: I just blew out my back. Bro I had that

648
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: micro with the second me surgery where I think it

649
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: was just just going to ham in college lifting, doing

650
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: all the other you know, extra activities as well, and

651
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: then I just had a major ballging disc and I

652
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: just kept going harder and harder on it, and like

653
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: the harder I went on it, the more numb it

654
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: would get. At that moment, and I was able to

655
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: go out to practice and lift, and then like that night,

656
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to move, and the next day

657
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I would just go hard on it again, and eventually

658
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: I blew it out totally, like I couldn't even feel

659
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: my legs anymore when I was nineteen years old. And

660
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: then it sucked because I had to get the surgery

661
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: that and then finally I was like, yo, my bat's

662
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: fucked up. And then I even went out to training

663
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: camp and got open on an in route, ran so slow,

664
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: but the well it opened up, the defense opened up,

665
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: and I caught the pass, turned around like one mile

666
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: prour and I walked off the field. I was like, yo,

667
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm fucked like and then we were finally like all right,

668
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: let's get an MRI and my back was blown out.

669
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: The disc was so hurtinated on the spinal cord. And

670
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: then eventually I got the surgery and missed my junior year,

671
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: which you know, if I could go back, that's one

672
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: thing I would do, is if I wish I could

673
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: replay my junior year and play at the University of Arizona.

674
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: But I still left early, still left early.

675
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Yes, we must have had a good couple of first years.

676
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: Then I did what was crazy is my freshman year

677
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: going in, I had six touchdowns, you know, like five

678
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: hundred something yards. I was bawling. But then going into

679
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate.

680
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like the NFL. You know,

681
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the

682
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to

683
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well.

684
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: That was more important. Was it was really more important

685
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: to me. I'm not gonna it was probably just as

686
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: important as football was to me. Was going out and

687
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: acting like an idiot. You know, rookie year in the

688
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: NFL and freshman year of college. You can't blame. Eighteen

689
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: years old, twenty one years old, I had a place

690
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: like u A too, and then going in my sophomore

691
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm ready to dominate. I get mono, I get monos somehow.

692
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like.

693
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

694
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: And I had to miss the first three games because

695
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: they say like, oh, your spleen's blown up. You know

696
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: you gotta miss So I missed three games my sophomore year,

697
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: true sophomore year. Came back and played, like, uh, what

698
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: is it you missed? Three? Was twelve games and the

699
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: season played nine games, had like ten touchdowns and balled out.

700
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: And then we went to the Las Vegas Ball which

701
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: which was my last game I played at the University

702
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: of Arizona. And that was the year my brother and

703
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: I played together and he had a great game. I

704
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: only had like, you know, twenty yards that bowl game,

705
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: but we won. It was the first bowl game that

706
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: the University of Arizona even went to in ten years

707
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: and we won it. And then that was my last

708
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: last game as a Wildcat. But overall, I played sixteen

709
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: games in college and had sixteen touchdowns as an eighteen

710
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: year old and nineteen year old.

711
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: That is awesome.

712
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: So I had enough film to get me, you know,

713
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round.

714
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: When you had the bulging discs and you got the

715
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: MRI and like you can't even feel your legs. Did

716
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: you think at any point that your career was over?

717
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure did. Actually I went and actually it

718
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: was lucky enough. I had an insurance policy. My dad

719
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: got me an insurance policy going into my junior year

720
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: because I was you know, I was kind of highly rated,

721
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you know that I could get drafted that year in

722
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: like the top three rounds. So I had an insurance

723
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: policy and I could have cashed out on it. Actually

724
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: because they were saying I had spinaldnosis. What is it spinal?

725
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

726
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know spinal what's that word nosis? I'm saying

727
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: don nosis, spinal stunn nosis, And like my spines curved

728
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of question marks on my

729
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: back and they were like, oh, Like the insurance company

730
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you can never play football again if

731
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: you get that policy, and I was like, I was

732
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: like fuck that, I'm playing football. That was my ultimate dream.

733
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be in the NFL. I'll just

734
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: work through this. But at some points trying to come

735
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: back because that was my first surgery. Like I couldn't

736
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: really get that pop back because you lose that pop

737
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: because the spinal corp is completely shut down and like

738
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: to get that pop, to get that explosive on this back.

739
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: I was training. I left early. I was training for

740
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the combine, and right before the combine, I didn't even

741
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: participate in the combine because at that time I didn't

742
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: even have that pop still, Like I couldn't even broad jump.

743
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: You just played high school football, basically, what's the NFL?

744
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: And finally, boom, I got it back. And then you know,

745
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I kind of understood the recovery process and all that,

746
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: and then I was finally like, all right, I can

747
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: play again. I got this. But there was a little

748
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: point like, man, I might not ever be able to

749
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: play again because like you know that, you know, you've

750
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: never been through that experience, you know. So I'm glad

751
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: I got over that fear and over that stage because

752
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: everything worked out. You didn't even play your junior year, No,

753
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: not not one snap.

754
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: You know, the last game of him officially like as

755
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: a as a wildcat Nebraska.

756
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: No, that was the year I didn't play. Brother, was

757
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: that first year were you on that team.

758
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: I was a freshman.

759
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: You were a freshman. So that was the year.

760
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: I didn't play that Alida.

761
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: The Holly Bowl. We got smacked by you guys. You

762
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: had gotten them at the time. He went what number

763
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: two overall that year, But that was the year I

764
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: got hurt. And if I didn't get hurt, we would

765
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: have watched your ass brother, But I think actually we

766
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: would have been the Yeah, that.

767
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: Thirty three to nothing.

768
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I was chilling, chilling. You guys are chilling when you're

769
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I was young. Yeah, wamped us.

770
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: What you're a red shirting.

771
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: This was my freshman red shirt year, not my red shirt,

772
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: not my Rechert year, but my Sea freshman year.

773
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad. We got wamped. I was there.

774
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Though I was there, I didn't play that whole year. Man.

775
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: It sucked. It sucks not playing, dude.

776
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just staying there. It's fast.

777
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: I was. I was standing on.

778
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 5: It's fascinating to me that he got draft in the

779
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: second round and he only played sixteen games in college

780
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: and he had back surgery, and I had all these

781
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 5: question marks about it going up to the combine. Yeah,

782
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: like in the pre draft process.

783
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: And it didn't even participate at the combine. I did

784
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: the bench press, got twenty three, didn't you U?

785
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: Did you fall asleep in a in a draft interview?

786
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Yes, with the Patriots with Bilt Phil. Yeah. Bill told

787
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: this story plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty.

788
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: But I was so tired, man, because you know that

789
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: draft process. I think it's the stupidest process as well,

790
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: Like you go from team to team. It's like you're

791
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: on fifteen flights in like fifteen days getting interviewed by

792
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: all these teams, and the Patriots were my last one,

793
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: and I was exhausted. I fell asleep like the first

794
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: ten minutes I got there in the room that they

795
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: put me in there, like hey, we'll be right back,

796
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: and I fell asleep on the spot or when they

797
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: came back in to check on me. And then I

798
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: also bombed the interview process, but like bombed it in

799
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: the best way possible.

800
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: Something in the best way possible, all.

801
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: Right, Like for example, they drew a play on the board, Billy, oh,

802
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: and he's and then he raced it. He's like, draw

803
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the play? What you got? What does everyone have? And

804
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: it was one of the hottest plays. It's still a

805
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: route that I still don't even understand olpak. It's like

806
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: the receiver goes up and down back like a comeback,

807
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: and then he goes takes off again and he makes

808
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: another comeback something you know way but like the longest

809
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: progressive way above my you know, my skill set. I

810
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: don't run routes like that. I don't stop go stop.

811
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: It's too big to stop and go. And I was

812
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: like what, So He's like redraw the whole play and

813
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: I was like, brother, like I'm stuck, like I like

814
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: ground zero, I Matt like, and I was like, you

815
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: know something, though, just throw me the fucking boss still.

816
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: And like like I was like that, like that type

817
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: of interview, like what you would just say, this is

818
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: above that. I would just come up up with an

819
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 1: insane answer like.

820
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, just throw me the ball still.

821
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: That's all I know.

822
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 4: Did we Were you ever like nervous for these coaches

823
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: because they have that kind of hey, just throw me

824
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: the ball anyway. It just screams confidence.

825
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I was never really nervous because you stand up at

826
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: the whiteboard with the marker in hand, trying to think,

827
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: like ship, what was the play drew?

828
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 4: And then just like hey, you had a double comeback.

829
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: He's just talking about like I'm.

830
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember, but yeah, just.

831
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I was cashed out though. It was like my fifteen

832
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: visit in like the last fifteen days. I was cashed out.

833
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: And what were you uh you said you had fifteen visits.

834
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 4: Of all the visits, like which one did go the best.

835
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: It was probably about like eight visits or so fifteen

836
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: was a little exaggerated. That's like eight. But at fifteen

837
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: including the Combine, Yeah, you know, I met with fifteen

838
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: teams there, but uh, you know, I felt like they

839
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: all went really smooth. You know, I was on point

840
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: with them all, you know, the Cincinnati Bengals one, I was.

841
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be on point because we all

842
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: knew that they were going to draft a tight end

843
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: first round and then they tell Jermaine Gresham. But they

844
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: were interviewing me like crazy now they had the twenty

845
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: first pick. I felt like I smacked everything right on

846
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: the money with all the questions, my interviews at the Combine,

847
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: I felt like I did a great job and everything,

848
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: but just overall just bombed the New zorleand Patriots one

849
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: like bombed it. Like in the worst way possible. Like

850
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: I said, like I like when Billy oll and Bill

851
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: described how the official visit went, or it's not the

852
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: official visit, that's in high school, how the interview visit went.

853
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: But you know, and also at the time, like there

854
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: was so many players getting in trouble in the NFL,

855
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: and I remember I called my brother. I was like,

856
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: fuck this, I'm going to act like a complete idiot.

857
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: I feel like it gets you, like more chances, you know,

858
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: because there was like five guys that were just arrested

859
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: and they were signing big deals in the NFL. Yeah,

860
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, that's a good way to think about

861
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: it and look at it. Yeah, use that theory, robed go. Yeah,

862
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: and I did. And it worked. It worked. That is

863
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Jones was getting arrested all the time.

864
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a crazy time.

865
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he signed a big deal and I

866
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it was like if you freaking act

867
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're gonna get picked up.

868
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: So it's crazy process like that, And it worked.

869
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: That is working.

870
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be you gotta be nuts. You got to

871
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well.

872
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: To something I think. I think it depends in the position.

873
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: Depends in the positions, Like if you're a d end,

874
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: a tight end like wide receivers and corners, they have

875
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: their own like cocky personalities or stereotypuilt cocky personalities. Quarterbacks

876
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: I feel have to be composed, calm, confident individuals. But yeah,

877
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: a psychoic like the psychotic tight end. Yeah, the psychotic

878
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: tight end is you made a name for the for

879
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 4: the brand you you you walked so the George Kittles

880
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: could run because you've got a whole bunch of different guys.

881
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 4: Now he crushing. He's got paid big time again.

882
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty one, thirty two, he's got paid thirty one

883
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: years older man, Yeah thirty one getting paid like that,

884
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: well deserved. He's got a lot left.

885
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: So when you're you're at the draft, first round goes by,

886
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: were you like upset at all? Or were you like we

887
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: knew this was a possibility.

888
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: No, I was upset. It's my mom says that there's

889
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset.

890
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I forgot the second time. We got to give her

891
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: a call. If she told me, I would remember, like

892
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: it would be like that. But she's And the other

893
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: time was not getting drafted in the first round. While

894
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: I was at the draft in New York City.

895
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: Did you have all the cameras rounds you and everything.

896
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Not really, you know, it wasn't really expected for me

897
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: to go in the first round. It was the first time,

898
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: I like to say this, I was infamously, you know,

899
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: drafted as the first player going to New York as

900
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: the first player getting drafted at the draft in the

901
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: second round. So that's how I look at it, as

902
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: I started that trend, if you go to the draft,

903
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: it's fine that you get drafted in the second round. Still,

904
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: I was the first to that to ever have that

905
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: happen to But there was also other ones after me

906
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: as well that year that got drafted in the second

907
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: and third round. But you know, I was ticked off.

908
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: I felt like I deserved to go in the first

909
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: I was always a goal of mine. But after I

910
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: got picked by the New England Patriots in the second

911
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: round and they traded up for me, I thought that

912
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: was really cool getting traded up for like, you know,

913
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: it's unique and like you feel special about that situation.

914
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: But once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one

915
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: single bit anymore that you know, I wasn't a first rounder.

916
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: It was It was a blessing. It was one of

917
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: the best feelings of all time that you know, could

918
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: ever happen to you.

919
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go

920
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 5: in the first round. What made you decide to still

921
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: go to like New York and be potentially around the

922
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: cameras and everything when it's it's a possibility that you

923
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 5: might not go in the first round.

924
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh,

925
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: I got to be a first rounder because they drafty.

926
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: They actually brought in a lot of other players as

927
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: well that were expected to go in the second round.

928
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I was gonna, you know, feel

929
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable there, gotcha. So there was like five other players

930
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: that didn't get drafted. Again, it was its first You're like, hey,

931
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: we want first rounders and second rounders at the draft.

932
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: We want to expand it. We want to show the inside,

933
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, for both rounds, not just the top ten picks.

934
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft,

935
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: and it was about like twenty five guys there, So

936
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: like twenty five guys aren't going in the first round.

937
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: That's too hired to be able to balance at to

938
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: know who's going where. So I didn't care. I thought

939
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: it was cool. And being you know, twenty years old,

940
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: you know you look for the spotlight then, you know,

941
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: and whenever you're going to invite, you take it. You

942
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: know at that age. Now these days you pick and choose,

943
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: like I got to go do that in front of

944
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: the camera. You're like, ah, whatever, you know, but when

945
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: you're twenty years old, you love all those moments. You're

946
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: never saying no at twenty years old. So I was

947
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: definitely not going to say no to that situation. And

948
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, being at the draft, you know that as

949
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: a kid, that's all you look forward to, you know,

950
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: watching all the players get drafted, like that could be me.

951
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: I just got the invite, you know, I wasn't not

952
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: going to.

953
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: Guys standing up there a hole in the jersey shaking

954
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: Goodell's hand exactly.

955
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: That's badass.

956
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all really is.

957
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: Did you did you.

958
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: Plan the celebration that you do with your family, because

959
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: it is it's got to be number one.

960
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: It is epic, and you know it's still talked about

961
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: to this day, definitely, But that's just how we were,

962
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: you know. You know, that's how we party at the

963
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: University of Arizona. We got around, who are I jump

964
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: up and down, get rowdy, all that good stuff, and

965
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: whenever we get together as a family, it was just

966
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So

967
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: we knew we're going to be celebrating, but not to

968
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting my

969
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in a

970
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: circle and hooing all over the place. So that was

971
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: just on the spot right there. That was cool. It

972
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: was good man.

973
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: You talked about comparing like saying that your off the

974
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: field life was just as important to you as on

975
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 5: the field. Was that How long did that carry into

976
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: your NFL career.

977
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: I would say just a couple of years. I mean

978
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number

979
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: one in my life, and that football, you know, needs

980
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: to be number one. Like I can't be putting football aside,

981
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I can't be putting the training aside just because I

982
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: want to go out, hang out with the friends, be

983
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: busting with the boys, and you know, at whatever college

984
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early,

985
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: so after my rookie year, all my friends were still

986
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which home.

987
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: My gosh, going out there, that place is crazy, rocking bro.

988
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean,

989
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at

990
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: those pictures. So I'm going Ham. At least I'm going

991
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: so Ham. I was getting exercise while I was going Ham.

992
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: I was staying in shape. I was burning at least

993
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: a thousand to two thousand calories just dancing the three

994
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: four hour period of going out. But I realized that

995
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: football has to be number one, though, and football is

996
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: going to sustain that, you know, the extra activities as well.

997
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: And so if I keep the football, you know activities

998
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: and football, you know, skills at the highest level, everything

999
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: else is always going to be there. I learned that

1000
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: about two three years into the league.

1001
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: What made you come to this realization?

1002
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: Was it a conversation with the teammate, just family members,

1003
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 5: your experience of showing up the football and being deteriorated

1004
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 5: and sucking and being out of shape and mind the

1005
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 5: puke and feeling.

1006
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Like every single one of your muscles are gonna spas

1007
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: them out there on the field or pull and like yeah,

1008
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: it's like miserable and you're like, yeah, I shouldn't be

1009
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: out here right now. And you got to work your

1010
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: way through it because you got to show that you know,

1011
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: you're doing the proper things. You know. But when when

1012
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: you hit you know, real life, when you hit that

1013
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: realization on the field of it's not going well, you know,

1014
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: that's when you know you got to tune things up

1015
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: and you got to change whatever whatever you're doing. I mean,

1016
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure you experienced that before at least once or twice.

1017
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: Did your realization that football has to be the main thing?

1018
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, everyone has.

1019
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: Pretty young for me, because you know they're hearing about

1020
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: the stories that you have. I just I think in

1021
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: my head, like I don't know how I would function

1022
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: as an athlete in college if I, like my night

1023
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: life was just right there. I put as much into

1024
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: my night life as I did football. So I feel

1025
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 5: like it just wouldn't. I don't know, I feel like

1026
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: it genetically it wasn't. It wouldn't have worked for me.

1027
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, hearing the way you talk about it, it sounds

1028
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: like you were like practicing and then after practice you're like, Okay,

1029
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: what are we going to do tonight? And for me,

1030
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: like I have partied a lot in college in my

1031
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: first couple years in the NFL, but it was always

1032
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: to me like I'd act like in my brain I'd

1033
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: be like, I'm not going to go out this weekend.

1034
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: Then accidentally, all of a sudden, I'd be It'd be

1035
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: two am on a Saturday, and I'd be up at

1036
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: Losers or Rick's American Cafe in ann Arbor. It seemed

1037
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: like you were like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna

1038
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: work really hard at football so I can go party

1039
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: and get the most out of that.

1040
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: There we go. That's exactly how it went, no doubt

1041
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: about it. And also going out in the party, and

1042
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, throughout the week. It was only

1043
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: one night a week, or maybe possibly two nights a

1044
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: week during the off season. It wasn't an everyday thing.

1045
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: If it wasn't every night thing, then I would definitely

1046
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: never be I am right now. So I always put

1047
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: that work into and then sometimes we're in the weight

1048
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: room and we would work harder. We would be pushing

1049
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got

1050
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: to look Jack tonight. You know, you got you extra

1051
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, twenty crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know,

1052
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: extra set of the bench press. So that motivated you.

1053
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: That got you to where you needed to get to

1054
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: because then you felt like you deserve to go out

1055
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: that night too. So uh, you know, it was always

1056
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: in back of the mind. Uh, But it wasn't like,

1057
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, a daily thing. If it was a daily thing,

1058
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: I've seen players go through the daily thing where they're

1059
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: going out, you know, throughout the week too. And I

1060
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: always knew too as a kid, even in college, I'm like, no,

1061
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going

1062
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: out during the week. I need my sleep, you know,

1063
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: I need I need to go to classes, obviously, I

1064
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: need to be ready for practice. And then I always

1065
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: actually did it when I always knew I had basically

1066
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: had off the next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in

1067
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: the younger generation era, you know, you would do it

1068
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: with practice till the next day at like ten am

1069
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: or eleven, and you would just fight your you know,

1070
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: fight your life through it. But Jory of the time.

1071
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: I would know I would have off next day as

1072
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: well to recover, rehydrate and all the good stuff. So

1073
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I was I did all the all the stupid shit

1074
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the smartest way possible.

1075
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: I feel that, Yeah, you grind it through it. Even

1076
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, Like

1077
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: I remember a couple times where I'd be hungover, you

1078
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: try to have a late night and you work out

1079
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: the next day, and when I felt like I was

1080
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling

1081
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: the way it did, it'd be like when you're on

1082
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: a knee listening to your coach talking, I'm just thinking

1083
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: in my head, I got it.

1084
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 3: I can't do this, Yeah, I can't like continue.

1085
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: I guess.

1086
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always the second guess, because when you go out,

1087
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: you're like, this is gonna be awesome, and then when

1088
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: you're a peak drunk, you're like, I'm gonna power through tomorrow.

1089
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna absolutely crush it. And the minute you get

1090
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: wake up the next day, I can never do that again. Yeah,

1091
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: But then it goes like it's Monday, You're like, I'm

1092
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: not drinking. I'm living my life like a Saint. Now

1093
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: Tuesday comes by, you're like just a good old boy. Wednesday,

1094
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, Friday is right around the corner,

1095
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: and it is a lot of fun. Thursdays like, all right,

1096
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all

1097
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday you're.

1098
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Like, all right, yes, just had that timeline, perfect, dude,

1099
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: because that's what it is you always have, Like the

1100
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: Sunday scariers.

1101
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: You were like, you've rethought your entire life, and you're like,

1102
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: this is it. This is the day I changed who

1103
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 4: I really am, and then by Friday you're back to

1104
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 4: being the same fucking person over and over again. I

1105
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: can't imagine that first off season you had after your

1106
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: first year in the NFL, because because in college, it's

1107
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: like back when you played, it was you have like

1108
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: a week off at most, right two weeks if you

1109
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: don't make a bowl game.

1110
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Well. The best thing about it, too, was it was

1111
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: the lockout, so we weren't even allowed to have an

1112
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: off season that year, so I had a true six

1113
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: months of just doing whatever I wanted to do.

1114
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: So I was gonna Belichick his pants.

1115
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: He really was, and that's when like kind of like

1116
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: videos were starting to service on the Internet of me.

1117
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I was back at the University of Arizona with the

1118
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: basketball players at a pool party, just going ape shit.

1119
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college, Miami, Ohio.

1120
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you,

1121
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the

1122
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: atmosphere that that's presented there is just phenomenal, h and

1123
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: just everything else. I learned what Vegas was that year

1124
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: as well, after my rookie year. But this is like

1125
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I never had. I never had the responsibility of going

1126
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: back and training, you know, up in New England because

1127
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there for

1128
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: the whole six months. And then I ended up though,

1129
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: showing up and absolutely balling and training camp and having

1130
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: my breakout season where I scored like twenty one touchdowns

1131
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: including the playoffs, and like broke every record as a

1132
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to

1133
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: all my dancing and all my party because I was moving,

1134
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my stamina was up there. I was

1135
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body.

1136
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: Just every type of motion you could possibly think of,

1137
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: tworking to the extreme powers. Like I swear, that's what

1138
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: got me through was just NonStop movement. You know you

1139
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: do the lifting. You know, they say you got to

1140
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: have that base, like you know, the foundation of like

1141
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the

1142
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: little muscles firing. And that's what got me the you know,

1143
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: keep everything firing at a proper rate. Was all the

1144
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: dancing and all the movements throwing your friends up in

1145
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: the air on top of lifting as well. Yeah, when

1146
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: did you right? I swear, though I swear, I mean

1147
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't really do that really, I like try to

1148
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: go out and like I dance for like five minutes,

1149
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how the fuck was I dancing for

1150
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: three hours straight? Like I can dance for five minutes now,

1151
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, Like I can't dance any longer anymore.

1152
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: When did you realize that your party and your antics

1153
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: could become like a massive brand? Because now you have

1154
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: like grunk Beach, your brother you and your brothers. You

1155
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: did the cruise, so you have you have so many

1156
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 4: things that are revolved around a lot of things that

1157
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: used to get you in trouble. When did that transition

1158
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money

1159
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 4: doing this?

1160
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, it kind of just happened naturally as well.

1161
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was doing it as like a

1162
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: scheme or a play or you know, to get like

1163
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: notoriety notoriety from it. Not at all. Man. I was

1164
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: just being myself. What what I've been doing since, you know,

1165
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: my college days and going into the NFL. Well, it

1166
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: wasn't like, you know, anything was planned ever. I was

1167
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: just doing me and then it just kept blowing up sometimes.

1168
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I just kept doing me, because I'm like,

1169
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm just doing me, like I'm not doing anything wrong.

1170
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm just having fun, you know. And then I really

1171
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: noticed a couple of years into it, like all right,

1172
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: like this is starting to become something because wherever I went,

1173
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It

1174
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm

1175
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: going out, it's going to be so turned up. But

1176
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: you have the energy when you're in the twenties as

1177
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: well to turn up the whole entire place, get on

1178
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff. And

1179
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I noticed that you know, it could possibly be a brand,

1180
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: Like it's working even though I'm just being myself. It's working.

1181
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though,

1182
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: I always knew that balling on the field was what

1183
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was

1184
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: balling on the field, because like, this guy's absolutely fucking

1185
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: balling on the field, but he's going out with all

1186
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: the fans as well and just having a good time

1187
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: and going ham And then, you know, eventually though, I

1188
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know,

1189
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: because it was hard, you know, in your mid twenties

1190
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: easily with the energy to keep up with it. But

1191
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: when I was starting to fade on the football field,

1192
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: that was becoming hard off the field too, because I

1193
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: was starting to back away from it big time because

1194
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: football was, you know, starting to get away from me,

1195
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't want football to get away from me.

1196
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle

1197
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: big time. So I would start picking and choosing when

1198
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm going out, how much I'm going out then, and

1199
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, because I wanted, you know, to

1200
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: be on top of my game for football. And now

1201
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: to this day, you know, it is a brand, you know,

1202
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: like a party brand. It really is. But I'm not

1203
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: even close to partying how I was partying back in

1204
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: the day, that twenty year old me, you know, got

1205
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: that brand to sustain all the way to this day.

1206
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: That's how ham I was going though back then. Yeah,

1207
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: that's how much I was balling in the field. So

1208
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's cool, like throwing grunk beach, I just

1209
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: pick and choose now, like grunk beach, I'll go hand,

1210
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: but not like how I used to. You know, I

1211
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: don't want to drink as much as I used to either.

1212
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: It's it's not good for you. It is poison. You know.

1213
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: I can't work out the next day. It takes three

1214
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: days to recover. I'm really into health, you know now,

1215
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: and and in fitness obviously I've been my whole life.

1216
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: But uh just I'm always in for a good time.

1217
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: But I'm more of the guy now you know that

1218
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: likes to look like laid back and watch what's going

1219
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: on and join a little bit of the action, but

1220
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, not going too crazy, not like.

1221
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Your young self.

1222
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, what were the what we're like the coaching moments,

1223
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: like with somebody like Bill Belichick, you talk about how

1224
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 5: like the Patriot way, how strict he was, how meetings

1225
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: could run like in the early days before it becomes

1226
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 5: a brand. Are there any moments you're having in the

1227
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 5: facility with Coach Belichick before it like becomes a distraction

1228
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: or hey, your brand or being more than the team?

1229
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 5: Was there like a transition there, because obviously, when you

1230
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 5: become drunk and you're the man, you guys are winning

1231
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: super Bowls, it's a lot more accepted because you know

1232
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: you're the man the Patriots are. You guys are winning

1233
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 5: football games. But in the early years, when you're coming

1234
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: back in these videos are surfacing, is there anything team

1235
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: meetings with Coach Bill.

1236
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always knew, if I showed up

1237
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: and balled, I would be in good hands, still be

1238
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: in good faith with the coaching staff, and Coach Belichick

1239
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: let a lot of things go. If you were bawling

1240
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: on the field, he didn't care if you were out

1241
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: all night and showing up. As long as you produce

1242
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: on that football field, he let everything go. It was fine.

1243
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you

1244
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. You didn't want to be

1245
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: in that meeting you're getting called out. You're going to

1246
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: have a one on one meeting like hey, mother, Like,

1247
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? I see you out,

1248
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Like you can't even you know, come out to practice

1249
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: and get open versus our undrafted free agent. Like so

1250
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: he would let you know, and he would eventually let

1251
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: you know in front of the team too, he would

1252
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: call you out. So that's why, like you always had

1253
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: to be on point when you enter that facility. And

1254
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: that's why I believe that going to that destination, you know,

1255
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: kept me on the grind too, Like yeah, the nightlife

1256
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: and whatever you were doing outside of football, but the

1257
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: second you stepped in that Bill and like you had

1258
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: that motivation in that grind like oh fuck, Like I

1259
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: got to absolutely dominate because I was out. Everyone saw it.

1260
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: And if I don't produce on this field, oh fuck,

1261
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a bad day for me. So that

1262
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: kind of got you to that level mindset, like that

1263
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: you got a ball.

1264
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he

1265
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: had to check you in a one on one or

1266
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: a team meeting?

1267
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: Not really, so, Julian and I we went out Memorial

1268
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Day weekend to narragainstt No, not narragarratt It, Nantucket, Naragainst's

1269
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: and Rhode Isan. We went out to Nantucket for for

1270
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Galie weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We were

1271
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: out of a golf cart. We're in the back, Julian

1272
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: and I doing our thing, and the golf cart lifted

1273
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: up in the air the front tires and we landed

1274
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: on the ground and it was a video that surfaced

1275
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: the internet and it was classic. And I remember the

1276
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: next day or three days later, we go to whatever

1277
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: OTAs running a rounds and Bill came up to us.

1278
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: We were sweating all over. Please get all that fucking

1279
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: ship out of your system. I saw you too, idiots

1280
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running, get

1281
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: it all out of you. So we were balling though

1282
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: we were out there. But Coach always got you to

1283
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: that mindset hungover and not feeling so good when you

1284
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: hit that field. That just the aura in New England

1285
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck is

1286
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: in your system, however you feel get yeah, you better

1287
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: not feel that way. It's gonna get It's gonna get

1288
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: you over it when you hit that field right there

1289
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: is that it is that the golf cart. Yeah, right

1290
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: there there we are to oh the back of the

1291
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: golf cart, broke. That's not good. This is like two

1292
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: months before the season, is it really? But Justin Timberlake

1293
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: loved it because that was the same night we were yeah,

1294
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: right there, we were dancing to a song. This is

1295
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: the same night we were dancing to a song gotta

1296
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: feel it. Yeah, got a feeling and we were rocking out.

1297
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: And then he to that the same night ladies to

1298
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: groc get it playboy, So shout out to Justin timber

1299
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: That's when I knew, all right, I gotta keep going.

1300
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: You see those dance moves. Now you see why I.

1301
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 4: Was getting out there.

1302
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: You're staying loose. Look at shimminging all over the place

1303
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: at that what.

1304
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: Is it the shuffle?

1305
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: You got something going there for sure. You talk about

1306
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 4: the aura of New England those first couple of years,

1307
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 4: Like what was it like for you picking up the playbook?

1308
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: Understanding everything and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like how

1309
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: demanding was Tom on you when it came to the

1310
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: playbook and stuff like that.

1311
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: Bro That's why I didn't play like my first eight games,

1312
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: because I didn't really know the playbook like that I

1313
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: had the skills, I had the talent, you know, but

1314
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: they didn't trust me. I even had some great you

1315
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: know highlights in the preseason that year. I had like

1316
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: three touchdowns drag blaring nights into the end zone. Uh.

1317
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: You like I showed some talent, Like I showed some bursts.

1318
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: I showed like what the type of player I could be. Uh.

1319
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: But then like practice would come still and I would

1320
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: be fucking up tremendously, Like I would have five great

1321
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: plays and I would have five terrible plays. I'd be

1322
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: blocking the wrong guy, I'd be running the wrong route.

1323
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: And when you're at that level, no matter how good

1324
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: you are, if they can't trust in you doing the

1325
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: right thing, well you're not going to play in New England.

1326
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck how good you are. They're

1327
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: not going to play you. And they let me know that.

1328
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: And the first eight games I only had about fifteen

1329
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: to twenty snaps per game I was playing. And it

1330
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: would only be the true plays that they would trust

1331
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: in me. They say, Hey, here's the twenty plays that

1332
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, we trusting you with these twenty plays, we'll

1333
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: call you in personnel when we're going to call these

1334
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: plays I do like twenty plays a game, and then

1335
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm bawling, though I'm still showing

1336
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: that potential, you know, and they're like you, we're not

1337
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: putting you out on that fucking field until like we

1338
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: can truly trust in you. Same with Tom, you know,

1339
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff, Billy oh Bill. And then finally, like I

1340
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: was struggling because the playbook was totally different from college.

1341
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: At college, I lined up on the right every single play.

1342
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: I had like five routes, you know, we had like

1343
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: five blocking plays, run place, and kaboom. Like I learned

1344
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: the playbook and one day, I mean, you get to

1345
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 1: New England, you got a playbook like that. You got

1346
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: fifty five different formations. I gotta line up on the left,

1347
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I gotta line up and slot. There's fifty different calls

1348
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: in the run game. I'm like, fifty different calls in

1349
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: the run game. Arizona, we had five different run calls.

1350
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1351
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I couldn't get up the pace. And then finally,

1352
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: like week eight, week nine, all of a sudden, just

1353
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: everything clicked. You know that feeling when you're like, okay,

1354
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: I got this. I know everything in the playbook, not everything,

1355
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: but like I got I know enough now, And then

1356
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: I was showing them on the practice field like hey,

1357
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm consistent. Now I'm bawling, like I'm doing the right things.

1358
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: And then a play, you know I talked about plenty

1359
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: of times. There was a play versus Chicago Bears, versus

1360
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: Arlacker that I had to body him up and I

1361
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: did it in practice on Friday, and they're like, we're

1362
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna call this play and you got you better be

1363
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: ready for it. And then it was versus Arlac. I

1364
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: had to, you know, get big on him in the

1365
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: end zone, one yard into the into the end zone,

1366
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: turn on him, use my body and boom, there's a ball.

1367
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: Did it in practice, replicated in the game versus Arlacker,

1368
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: box box him out. Uh, Tom put the ball right

1369
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: there and I caught it. And ever since then, the

1370
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: trust just went through the roof and I played every

1371
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: single play after that. So the playbook, you know, to

1372
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's the

1373
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are if

1374
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on the field,

1375
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: you're not going to play. You're not going to be

1376
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: the best player that you can possibly be. So get

1377
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: in the playbook and know those plays right from the beginning.

1378
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains a

1379
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: rookie year?

1380
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: He was an asshole my rookie year. He really was.

1381
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: He was like mister Bill Belichick's son at that time.

1382
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: He was mister Patriot at that time. But and he

1383
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: was on my ass though. But you know, I see why, though,

1384
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, I really see why. He saw the potential

1385
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: in me too. I remember one time I ran a

1386
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: flag route and he always wanted me to go outside

1387
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: of the defender, and like I didn't have the fluidity

1388
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: to get outside of him when he was like two

1389
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: yards outside of me and try to get open. So

1390
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I always try to go right inside of him, make

1391
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: a little move and try to get open the flag

1392
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: route even though he's playing outside. And he's like, I'm

1393
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: never gonna throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never

1394
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in

1395
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: the meeting room after I went I went inside on

1396
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: the flag round, but he told me five times already

1397
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: to get outside at least show them I'm trying to

1398
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: get outside. But I'm like it was too hard for

1399
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: me at that time, like I couldn't comprehend it, you know,

1400
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: the way that my body was moving. I just couldn't

1401
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: do it. And then after he said that, then that

1402
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of clicked in me too, like, oh, fuck, I

1403
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: gotta really try to show him that I'm getting outside

1404
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: and just just have a quarterback. To be that hard

1405
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: on you at the beginning though as a young buck,

1406
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, it can definitely deteriorate you a little bit.

1407
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: But he saw all that potential because then right after

1408
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: he would say something like that, big yo, stay after

1409
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: me with practice. Let's fucking let's let's run this route

1410
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: twenty times. Let's get you on the same page. You

1411
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 1: have to finally click. I'm gonna keep going until you click.

1412
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: So he was really really hard on me, but I

1413
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: see why, and I respected to the highest tea And

1414
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that he was that hired on me

1415
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: as well, because we would have never gotten too the

1416
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: page and the chemistry that we were at if he

1417
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: wasn't that hired on me. And that's what makes him probably,

1418
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, well, the greatest player of all time because

1419
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't his skill set, you know, it wasn't his

1420
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: ability to do you know, what he does on the

1421
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: football field, it was. It was also the ability to

1422
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: bring the best out of his teammates around him.

1423
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, with Tom, it seems like his two main guys

1424
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 4: throughout his career were like you and Edelman or just

1425
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 4: like kind of like his core guys all the time.

1426
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 4: At what point did you feel like, all right, I'm

1427
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: really in Tom's pack because a guy like that of

1428
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: that superstardom Dayton models, marrying the models like he seems

1429
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 4: like he's like one of the first guys in the

1430
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: NFL to'll be like above the NFL and for you

1431
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: to be like in that group with him, was there

1432
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: like a moment where you're like, Okay, I'm I know,

1433
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: I'm Tom's guy now, uh.

1434
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: Kind of that moment, you know, my rookie year, you know,

1435
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: I felt like I got in the pack like after

1436
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: that play versus ear Lacker, but I wasn't truly in

1437
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: it yet. You know, we had Wes Welker as well.

1438
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean Randy Moss you know, just got traded in

1439
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: my rookie year, so he was in that pack as well.

1440
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: Dan Branch got traded back, like he was in that

1441
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: pack even though he left for a little bit with

1442
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. We had a couple other players as well

1443
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: that I could see that he truly trusted and that

1444
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: he truly looked to. And I would say I truly enter.

1445
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: That was my second year when I bloss him, and

1446
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: that was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah,

1447
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: having that lockout, but in me going hand for six

1448
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: months straight, but also in back of my mind, football

1449
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: was always there and I always wanted to be the greatest.

1450
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: And I remember calling my agent, Drew road'shouse. I said,

1451
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the greatest fucking tight end this season.

1452
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: Watch and He's like, okay, I mean, he's like, you

1453
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: got Antonio Gage, you got Jason Way. And I'm like, now,

1454
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm gonna be the greatest tight end this year.

1455
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: And like I had that as a mindset and I'm

1456
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna be on the same page as Brady. I get

1457
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: what he wants now. And then going into that training camp,

1458
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: everything was just clicking and I entered that pack of

1459
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: that trust because I get that trust from Brady and

1460
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. You have to be a consistent fucking player.

1461
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't care you can show a burst of going

1462
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: deep and making an amazing play. But if you can

1463
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: do that one out of every ten, I mean, you're

1464
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust.

1465
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: So I showed that trust going into my second year,

1466
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: and then that's when it just all truly started clicking.

1467
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: And it lasted for ten more years straight. How did that?

1468
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: Was?

1469
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: It?

1470
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 5: Always respect from Tom when he's hard on you in

1471
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 5: those moments like your rookie year, are you thinking.

1472
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, this dude's a fucking asshole.

1473
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: I thought he was so well, you're kind of resistant to like, hey,

1474
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 5: let's stay after practice and do twenty reps and you're

1475
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 5: just like, fuck man, all right.

1476
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was an asshole for sure. First, you know,

1477
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it was mister Patriot my rookie year,

1478
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: like he was Bill two point zero. I swear, like,

1479
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this guy zero fun zero fun like

1480
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: zero like. But but I kind of understood it at

1481
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: the same time, not to the full extent, you know.

1482
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: But once you're in the like, once you're growing, you're progressing,

1483
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: you're getting better, you're making all right, this is this

1484
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: is where I need to kind of bumy yes.

1485
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: And then once I bought in too. He loosened up

1486
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: as well, like he just wanted me to buy in

1487
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: and get rid of all that bullshit that was going

1488
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: on on the outside, or me not paying attention to

1489
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: the meetings, or me not doing what I need to

1490
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: do out in the football field, because he saw it

1491
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: in me like he sees he sees potential in players.

1492
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: He knows players inside and out, like he can watch

1493
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: film tom He can break down a player's strength, he

1494
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: can break down their weakness. He can break down how

1495
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: to get open versus what you got to do. He

1496
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: can even break down a defensive lineman like and know

1497
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: their strengths and how to block a defensive lineman. He

1498
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: knows the game of football like that, and that's what

1499
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: makes it made him so great obviously. So he knew

1500
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: what I needed to do out in the football field.

1501
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: And when I started finally doing it, when it started

1502
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand,

1503
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: that's when that relationship really blossomed, and he, you know,

1504
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: he was less hard on me. I mean still to

1505
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: this day, he's hard on his players. I mean even

1506
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: once you get that relationship going, because he wants that

1507
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: relationship to keep building, you know. But it wasn't like

1508
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: my rookie year. Uh you know, rookie year was tough

1509
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: at some points. But I saw why and I'm I'm

1510
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that.

1511
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: I needed it. Put it that way, I needed it.

1512
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 5: How hard was were they on Julian Edelman. I just

1513
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 5: listened to Bill Belichick on the Pivot, and it seems

1514
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: like they were extremely harder. Coach Belichick was extremely hard

1515
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 5: on Julian when he got to New England.

1516
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Well, he was a year before me, so I didn't

1517
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: really see his rookie year like that. It's a good

1518
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: boy though. He knows we're working. You feel safe, Yeah,

1519
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: he feels safe. He's just relaxing. That's a good boy

1520
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: right there. So but later on, if we keep going,

1521
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: he'll eventually let us know like, hey, hey, motherfucker humans, Hey,

1522
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: motherfucker humans, it's my turn. Throw me the ball. But

1523
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: a boy, but Julian was absolute dog and they loved

1524
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: getting under his skin. If you got under Julian skin,

1525
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: it brought the best out of them. And I would

1526
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: say same with myself, you know, And that's why they

1527
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: were hired on players there, Coach Balichik knew how to

1528
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: get them play into players' minds, even if it was

1529
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: in the most asshole way. You know. That's why we

1530
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: respected so much and we appreciate it, you know, to

1531
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: this day, because he was really trying to make you

1532
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: the best fucking player that you could possibly be, and

1533
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: he was trying to bring the best out of you,

1534
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: and he sure did it, even though whatever way he

1535
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: was doing it, you know, it could have been vicious.

1536
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: You know, it could have been like, yo, I'm about

1537
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: to trade you, like he could have just been making

1538
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: it up and then you would go absolutely balls, you know,

1539
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: out in the practice field and the game. So he

1540
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: knew how to bring the best out of players, especially

1541
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: the ones that he knew wanted it, and Julian was

1542
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: a guy that wanted it, and he brought the best

1543
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: out of Julian. And whatever techniques he was doing to

1544
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: get under Julian's skin.

1545
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: Dide you.

1546
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously receiving one that's where you get paid.

1547
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: It's probably the most fun for you. But from a

1548
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: blocking standpoint, you see so many clips of you, like

1549
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 4: throwing a chip buck on a trail sucks. And then

1550
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 4: sending them into the bleachers, that the safety from the

1551
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: Colts on the goal line sitting him all the way

1552
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 4: to the sidelines. Tell me no white T shirts in

1553
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: the club. Where did the mindset come with the blocking?

1554
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: Was it always really important to you or did you

1555
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: learn early like this is how you become like a

1556
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: complete tight end.

1557
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: No, it was always important to me. Ever since my

1558
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: high school days playing football. I always just took pride

1559
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: in the blocking game. I really did. I remember in

1560
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: high school it was before like all the blind side

1561
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: blocks you know, got banned. Oh, which was a good thing,

1562
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking to those crack yes, crack

1563
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: black blocks. You took more pride in high school when

1564
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: you absolutely leveled someone than say scoring a touchdown. I'm

1565
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: talking the touchdown was cool, you celebrate, but the whole

1566
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: sideline would go absolutely bonkers if you took someone up

1567
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: and just planting them on the ground, or your blindside

1568
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: someone and just flat blacked them and basically put him

1569
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: in the hospital. So that mindset was always there to

1570
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: just be the biggest dog, to be the you know,

1571
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: to be the strongest dog out in the field, and

1572
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: to be tossing people around tossing people around felt like

1573
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: the manly thing to be in the game of football. Yeah,

1574
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: catching touchdowns was cool, that came with it, but that

1575
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: wasn't what you wanted to showcase. It was how far

1576
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: can you take someone and just embarrass them and just

1577
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,919
Speaker 1: show them who the fuck is boss? So that started,

1578
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: you know, in high school. Maybe it would say as

1579
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: a kid, though, that toughness because I was getting to

1580
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: beat the shit out of from my three older brothers

1581
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: and their friends at all times, and they would pick

1582
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: on me and I would just come right back at them.

1583
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 1: So that mindset started then, and then in high school

1584
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: my senior year. I only had eight catches my senior

1585
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: year in high school as a tight end, and we

1586
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,839
Speaker 1: ran the ball fifty two out of fifty two plays

1587
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,959
Speaker 1: one time, and it didn't matter because we were dominating.

1588
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: We won the game like thirty nothing. I would just

1589
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: take guys, drive them back five yards, plany them. At

1590
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: one time in high school, picked up a guy, brought

1591
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: them off the sidelines ten yards and threw them over

1592
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: the fence. It was kind of like the play the

1593
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: Sergio Brown play, but instead I took the guy up

1594
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: in the air ten yards and threw him over and no, yeah,

1595
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: just like that one. But then I took the guy

1596
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: and threw him over the fence in high school and

1597
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: we just took so much pride in that, Like it

1598
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: wasn't about catches, it wasn't about touchdowns. So that translated

1599
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: into college and everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a

1600
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns.

1601
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 1: I was the guy when it came to whatever seven

1602
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: on seven what's it called when you nine and seven

1603
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: run period that I'd be showing up and it was

1604
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: all about how how bad ass can you be in

1605
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: the run game and how you know? How hard can

1606
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: you block the d N and make a hole for

1607
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: your running back?

1608
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 4: Dude, there is something about having a tight end that

1609
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 4: knows how to do like a trade block or a

1610
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 4: triple block and knows where the right fit is where

1611
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 4: to put his hands. It makes your life so much easier.

1612
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: It's the best feeling, dude. Yeah, And to this day,

1613
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, when people show my highlights, I don't give

1614
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: a fuck, Like the catching highlight and touchdowns, I'm like cool, whatever,

1615
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: I won't even look. I'll be like that's cool. But

1616
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: when I see a blocking play of mine. I fucking

1617
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: rewind that thing I've read there. I remember Stephen Ridley,

1618
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: he was running back my good friend. He'd beat Kevin

1619
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: Hart in a race like two years ago, and Kevin

1620
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: Hart blew out his hamstring. So the NFL, do you

1621
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: guys remember that a little bit? No, he blew out

1622
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: his abdominal and then the NFL was you know, showed, oh,

1623
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 1: ex player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart

1624
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: in a race. Kevin Hart blows abdominal. So then what

1625
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: did they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's

1626
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: highlights and they put him up on the NFL dot

1627
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: com or whatever their Instagram page. And guess what there,

1628
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: I was blocking and I sent it to Really, I said,

1629
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I

1630
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: love the blocking highlights. And I'm I'm like surprised with

1631
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: myself because I don't really remember, Like it was just

1632
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: a natural thing I would do, you know, and I

1633
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: didn't really notice how important it really was. It was

1634
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: just part of my personality, Like that's what I did.

1635
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: I blocked. But when I go back and I watched

1636
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: me block, like when I was in my heyday, Like

1637
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: the first four years, man, I was fucking tossing motherfuckers, dude,

1638
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: And I didn't really realize it that I was really

1639
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: doing it like that, Like I was doing it like that.

1640
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: So I'll always rewind a block and I'll always make

1641
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: sure that people see all the blocks when they're up

1642
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: on the TV screen. Which is whatever.

1643
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 4: With the with the game, were you a guy that

1644
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 4: like talks shit during a game or you kind of

1645
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: just keeped yourself and if somebody talks it to you

1646
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: turn up on them a little bit.

1647
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: There we go. And I love when people talk shit

1648
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: to me, Like brought me to a whole other level.

1649
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: And that's what happened with the ser That's what I

1650
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: was gonna ask Ale entire game, just yapping at me

1651
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: and we're friends, like we're friends like in New England.

1652
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like I'm getting open on you guys too,

1653
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: and we're dominating you. But just kept going and going

1654
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: and going, and finally he just triggered me and I

1655
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: just was like, I'm on the next blocking play a

1656
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: get I'm gonna just fucking keep going and going and going.

1657
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: How long was that I'm gonna I'm gonna get him.

1658
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: When I get the just chirping. He was chirping the

1659
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, there was dable you saw now he

1660
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: loved it too. There he is right there.

1661
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: They've all was O, yeah, good shah. How many plays

1662
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 4: so this guy's chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever?

1663
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 4: How many How long after was that block for you?

1664
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 4: Where You're like, okay, I'm gonna take this kid to

1665
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: the absolute sound?

1666
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I was going. I didn't care if I I

1667
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: knew the play was over too. Like I saw the

1668
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: running back score a touchdown? Ship what's his name again?

1669
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns that came in like two hundred

1670
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: and fifty yards.

1671
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 4: You just had like fifty running backs?

1672
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, And then we caught him like two

1673
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: weeks later because jonas yea, I love so many running backs.

1674
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: I just couldn't think of who it was running back.

1675
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: I saw him score right behind me too, and I

1676
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: was like, fuck this, I'm still going. I was just

1677
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: over him. He was just talking the whole time, and

1678
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: I just like I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go until

1679
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: he collapses and then boom finally.

1680
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 5: Right there is why I never wanted to talk ship. Yeah,

1681
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 5: just like if you're going to get a good player,

1682
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 5: you're just I'm always like complimenting.

1683
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm complimenting.

1684
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hated that this guy's too nice, Like I

1685
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: don't want to it's.

1686
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's when you have a lax just like you're

1687
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: playing a hell of a game out here, just to

1688
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 5: like you never want that trigger to go off on

1689
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 5: somebody because you just never fucking know.

1690
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: You ain't trying to be on a highlight.

1691
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 4: No, I feel you. I mean you're you're how do

1692
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 4: you feel about this?

1693
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, that's that's fifty one correct. Yeah, you got

1694
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: me solo tackle. But that's a nice uh flat route though,

1695
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: Look at the speed I had back then. I wish

1696
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: I had that speed still though. Man, look at me

1697
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: come out of the back Was that coming out of

1698
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: the backfield or was that just a flat route position

1699
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: or that? Yeah, I'm flying right there. See I out

1700
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: angled you. That's how fast I was back then.

1701
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: That should have.

1702
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Been if you were playing true technique football as a linebacker.

1703
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: That should have been a two yard cat. Just I

1704
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: just beat the zone. Beat the zone.

1705
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: I think we were a man there. Yeah, So it

1706
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 3: makes it even worse.

1707
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: You're made up for it. You made up right there,

1708
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: look at only about four yards, but Will couldn't close

1709
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: the gap. Ask holy ship, I'm on the same page still,

1710
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: and that was That was June twenty third, twenty twenty three,

1711
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 1: all right, so that wasn't that long ago. But still

1712
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: that was a nice tackle.

1713
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 4: He goes down there. A lot of other men have

1714
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 4: failed trying to do.

1715
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: There's a photo where it's captured from from Rob's angle

1716
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: to where it looks like he just I mean, he

1717
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: does stiff arm me, but it looks like they have

1718
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: a great angle to where that should you get like

1719
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: posterized for getting stiff armed?

1720
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: Now?

1721
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 4: I know, I know Gronk's a guest on our show,

1722
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 4: but if you're in man coverage, are you fearful of

1723
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 4: this man because he's not like it wasn't the shiftiest

1724
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 4: guy in the world and you had some speedback then,

1725
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: this is.

1726
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you know he uses a stiff arm. Well,

1727
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: so yeah, absolutely, there it is.

1728
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: Look at that pick. Oh man, I still got me.

1729
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: I see that picking still got you got to break

1730
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: it down.

1731
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 4: You got to break that down, and I got.

1732
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: To I was on the sideline, so I knew that

1733
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: you had sieline help, so I didn't really try. I

1734
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: wanted you.

1735
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted

1736
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 3: to pad my stats.

1737
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: Yea was there for both of us. First down, but

1738
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,520
Speaker 1: you gotta tackle tackle.

1739
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: Bright pull on the film, but comp you got to

1740
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: fix the angle here a little bit. But hey, way

1741
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,879
Speaker 4: to get him down when he got him.

1742
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 3: A lot of guys fail on that stuff.

1743
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 4: A lot of guys fail.

1744
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 3: I want to ask.

1745
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 5: I gotta ask, you were the same same position, group,

1746
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 5: same age. What was it like around I was.

1747
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: Just going to get into that's like in your mind?

1748
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 5: Are you like all the stuff that comes out about

1749
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 5: him now, like going back to those moments around him,

1750
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 5: are you kind of think in your head like I'm

1751
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 5: not in this world too much.

1752
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: But there's like some there's like some ship that this

1753
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: guy's into off the field that I don't necessarily even

1754
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 3: want to know.

1755
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: Because there was we we heard stories about like him

1756
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: being in the team meeting room, like beating off and

1757
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: like doing crazy ship. I mean and and honestly, if

1758
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 4: you don't want to talk about that's a possibility that one.

1759
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: I may or may have not seen it live.

1760
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: No ship.

1761
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to complete.

1762
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm not at the time just thinking yourself, Man, this

1763
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 4: guy really.

1764
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean I love crazy shit though, so

1765
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: like I didn't mind things like that. I was like wow,

1766
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: like that was pretty epic.

1767
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 3: Like I was a wild.

1768
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: Man myself, so like I was like, nothing fazed me.

1769
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: I was like I encouraged it, but like never I mean,

1770
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, first off, unbelievable football player. Man, you're talking

1771
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: about the playbook me struggling with the playbook. That guy

1772
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: knew the plays inside and out, the run game, man

1773
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: pass game, and like the first two weeks being in

1774
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: New England, while I struggled with it all the way

1775
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: until like week eight, you know. And he was balling

1776
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: right from the beginning. He was a basketball player out

1777
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: on the football field. That's what he was. With his size,

1778
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: he could run, he was he's at one point he

1779
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: was lining up at running back and having thirty plus

1780
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: yard runs while I was black. I mean, yes, you're

1781
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: the best combination at the tight end position of all time,

1782
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: and that second year proves it. I mean we had

1783
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: like what twenty three hundred yards combined and like twenty

1784
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns between just him and I including playoffs and

1785
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: regular season. That's unheard of. Like, there ain't no other

1786
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: tight end combo ever going to have fifteen hundred yards

1787
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 1: combined like ever again possibly or maybe like sixteen hundred yards.

1788
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: So we went like twenty eight hundred and like twenty

1789
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, which is just absurd. But uh, there's a

1790
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: lot of craziness definitely. But I didn't mind it, Like

1791
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: I said, I loved it. Uh, And then I didn't see,

1792
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, it going to the level that it went to.

1793
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see that happening Like that was a surprise.

1794
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: It was a surprise to everyone because you would never

1795
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: expect anyone, you know, especially be in that position to

1796
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: have it go to the level that it went to.

1797
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 5: And you're learning about this stuff with when all the

1798
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: whether it's document show is coming out about it. You're

1799
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 5: learning that then and you're like, fuck, I didn't really

1800
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 5: know it was that bad.

1801
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that bad. I mean I

1802
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: knew that, you know, there was definitely some wild size

1803
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: to him. But uh, with everything coming out, there's there's

1804
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: some that I would say is true, and the documentaries

1805
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: that come out, there's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit,

1806
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: But there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm

1807
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: not going to talk about like what topics it was

1808
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: and everything, but uh, I mean it was wild, man.

1809
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: I I was the guy that was truly there throughout

1810
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: his whole career, right in the same room the whole

1811
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: entire time. It is. But uh, it's unfortunate though what happened,

1812
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: because the talent was just just through the roof. Man

1813
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: through the roof, and if we could have kept our

1814
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 1: tandem going, yeah, we would been just truly unstoppable. But

1815
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's really all I got on that. Yeah,

1816
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: saw it, saw some of it, but you didn't know

1817
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: it was like to that extreme and not surprise either

1818
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: now either, like it's like okay, that makes sense now.

1819
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when you guys are at practice, he got

1820
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: charged when you guys were at practice, or like like

1821
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: you guys practice that day.

1822
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: Correct, it was an off season, it was it was

1823
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: actually it was Yeah, it was during the summer when

1824
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: no one was actually at the facility.

1825
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: And when like when when you found out, were you

1826
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: like at first, like there's no way this is possible,

1827
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: or were you like that That's a tough question to ask.

1828
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 4: What was your thought process? When you heard he was charged.

1829
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get charged until like after the fact

1830
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: that it all came out correct. So like when I

1831
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: first kind of like what was the thought process when

1832
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: I first heard about you know, the situation, the real

1833
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,480
Speaker 1: situation where I was like, all right, this is trouble. Uh,

1834
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, surprised, shot big time? Uh, sad a little

1835
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: bit like no, like no way, Like also disappointed, you know,

1836
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: like like why would you do that? Like like why,

1837
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: like what's going on? We got the whole world in

1838
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: front of us, We got the world by the balls,

1839
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: especially you know, you and I as the tandem, like

1840
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: we got the best team out there everything, So it

1841
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: was it was shocking, you know, it was sad as well,

1842
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: you know once once you really realize what truly happened.

1843
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. How was Bill Belichick?

1844
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 5: Aside from what you get to see, whether he's uh

1845
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 5: in press conferences, the coaching side, the Art of Winning book, Like,

1846
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 5: what's he like kind of off the field or away?

1847
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 5: Because I think there's a story where he showed up

1848
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: hammered to Randy Moss's one of his costume parties or

1849
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 5: like a Halloween Like what's a what's another what's a

1850
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 5: fun side of Bill Belichick.

1851
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: All Right, here's something that a lot of people really

1852
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know,

1853
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 1: and he's always got that serious face in team meetings.

1854
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: But every once in a while, like once every two weeks,

1855
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger,

1856
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: bro I'm talking banger, and he would actually have a

1857
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: mile on his face right after he would just drop

1858
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: some knowledge or some you know, over the top joke

1859
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: that just landed every time with the team, and everyone

1860
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: would just be on the ground, that's fucking dying laughing.

1861
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 1: It was so it was always vicious too, the joker

1862
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he

1863
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: came in with that, it always lightened the mood. It

1864
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: was every it was once in a blue moon. But

1865
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: when he did do that, man, it was good ship.

1866
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: We all appreciated it.

1867
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 5: You ever get to you have a party with Bill.

1868
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 5: He ever partaking the Gronkowski dances.

1869
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: Actually, he showed up to the first grunk Beach ever

1870
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: when I first retired. Uh it was in Miami. It

1871
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: was at that Super Bowl like uh five six years ago,

1872
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: and he showed up to that grunk beach, which was

1873
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: really cool. But other than that, he was there for

1874
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: like five minutes. He's like, yeah, this isn't really.

1875
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 4: For me, ye.

1876
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Showing face. Really, let's go. Yeah he's great, but I

1877
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: think he loves he loves the party scene more than

1878
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: ever right now. Actually at parties. I mean he's not

1879
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: like he's rocking out. I mean, but he's there. You know,

1880
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: he's doing his thing, and you know, he's loosened up

1881
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: big time ever since he left being a head coach

1882
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL, which is cool to see.

1883
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: Were you surprised about that him loosing up after he

1884
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 4: became a head coach after he left the NFL.

1885
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra

1886
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: even like going on to whatever you know, he was

1887
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 1: going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he

1888
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 1: probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels,

1889
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: but like on the outside of everything else. I was

1890
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: definitely surprised when he started joining you know, social media.

1891
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, he joined the media game, and he was

1892
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more when

1893
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: he was making all his appearances on all the shows

1894
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: that he was on. But it was really good to see,

1895
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: Like I was happy for him, man, you know, it

1896
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: was a different side that everyone got to see too.

1897
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate too.

1898
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: Knows the game of football inside and out better than

1899
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: anyone else out there.

1900
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 5: What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff,

1901
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 5: with knowing coach Belichick as this no nonsense coach, seeing

1902
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 5: all the like theatrics that have kind of came with

1903
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 5: on the outside looking in, like with him at North Carolina.

1904
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: Guy, that's all about eliminating distractions.

1905
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1906
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: So that's a little surprising to me because he was

1907
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: all about eliminating distractions, and like it's kind of I mean,

1908
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not,

1909
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: because well, no, in the win lost column this year,

1910
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: if he wins every game or puts up eight wins

1911
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,440
Speaker 1: this year at UNC, well then there was no distractions

1912
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: at all. The distractions at times him, I mean, how

1913
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: much you know, crazy shit did he deal with in

1914
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: New England, from you know, Tom's things to Hernandez to me,

1915
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, in some situations, to just a lot of

1916
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: otter things that were going on. And we would just

1917
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: go out there and win constantly at a at a

1918
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: you know, at a rate that's never been seen before,

1919
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: and win super Bowls even though there was things going

1920
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: on the outside. Uh you know that didn't you know

1921
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: that we're trying to distract us but want to get

1922
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: to us because we would block it all out. But

1923
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: but ill if there was something going on and it

1924
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: was just at like just bickering you know, at the

1925
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: team and like everyone had to deal with it, he

1926
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: would kind of say something, you know, like he kind

1927
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: of like amp and down a little bit, you know,

1928
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: like on one media, Yeah, like hey, this is going on,

1929
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: Like can you just kind of diffuse the situation. So

1930
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he's not diffusing the situation

1931
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: at all when it could be diffused a little bit more,

1932
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: and it's becoming a distraction to the whole entire program

1933
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: at the University of North Carolina a little bit. So uh,

1934
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: it kind of goes against that. But like we said,

1935
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: he's also loosened up tremendously and he's kind of a

1936
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, changed, you know, personality since being a coach

1937
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But just overall, I think like football

1938
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: needs to come once football comes. You know, I'm excited

1939
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: to see how all that goes. You know, I'm kind

1940
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: of getting annoyed by all these other things that talked

1941
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: about with Bill. Right now. It's like, let's see this

1942
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: guy coach. You know. If this guy dominates, well, then

1943
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: let it be. And if he loses out right from

1944
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: the beginning and he's one in three, that could be

1945
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: a serious problem.

1946
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he starts out one and three, you need

1947
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 4: to fly out to North Carolina and have a one

1948
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 4: on one meeting with him. We got to eliminate these distractions.

1949
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: I'll have University of North Carolina hire me as like

1950
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: president of all sports. Yes, so I can be.

1951
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 4: President. Wants to meet you. You're in there and be like,

1952
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1953
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Tom and Edelman all flight all above them too.

1954
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: They all have to be above him. Eliminate the distractions.

1955
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: Come on, now, what are we doing out here?

1956
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1957
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to win or not? Like we gotta focus.

1958
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see what happens, you know, Yeah, we'll

1959
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: see what happens.

1960
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 4: One and three.

1961
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm pulling from. It'll be great for football. It'll be

1962
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: great for college football, like the Dion effect, you know,

1963
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: like how much better like no one watched Colorado. It's

1964
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: like no one watched you and see like everyone tuned

1965
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: in everyone, it will be tuned into U and see

1966
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: for sure when Tom and Bill end up breaking up, Tom,

1967
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: you you go with Tom to Tampa Bay.

1968
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 4: From your vantage point, what did you see happening there

1969
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 4: on the inside between their relationship, Because you were saying

1970
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 4: in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as

1971
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 4: baby Bill Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially, and then

1972
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 4: they get to the end, you hear about how they're

1973
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 4: not really getting along culturally. They think that they're going

1974
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 4: different directions. Tom and everybody. You guys lose to the

1975
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 4: Titans in twenty nineteen, ending your dynasty and then retired.

1976
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: You're right, that's why you're a dynasty.

1977
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 4: Do you think? So what do you what did you

1978
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 4: do see happening between them and that breakup?

1979
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like I said, I mean I was surprised.

1980
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go all the way way back

1981
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different

1982
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: mindset or positioning that Tom was in, like he like

1983
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: I said, he was like Bill Belichick's son my rookie year.

1984
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: But I would say, I mean, I really can't talk

1985
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: for Tom or Bill like on how the relationship, but

1986
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: I would just say what kind of really happened was

1987
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: that Tom was probably growing older, you know, and was like,

1988
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to freelance more. I would say, doesn't

1989
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 1: have to be treated like a rookie, and it was

1990
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: still going on. Uh, And I would say he was

1991
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: getting over that situation even though it was kind of

1992
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: like that, you know, my rookie year. Yeah, and he

1993
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: he was, you know, guys, thirty five years old now

1994
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: thirty six and doesn't need to be treated like arguably

1995
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: the goal yeah, probably already the greatest of all time.

1996
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be treated like a rookie, you know.

1997
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: And I would say the tensions started feuding over things

1998
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: like in that situation between them two, that's kind of

1999
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: like how I how I saw in a way. And

2000
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: then eventually neither of them were gonna you know, you know,

2001
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: twitch or like ben the knee or bend the knee. Yeah,

2002
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: bend the knee. So the tension just started heating up,

2003
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 1: I would say, and eventually you know that the divorce happened.

2004
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: But our details or what they were truly thinking you

2005
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: would have to ask one of them. But from an

2006
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: outside perspective, like player, I would say that's kind of

2007
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: how the case, you know, kind of started and ended.

2008
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 5: When those topics are getting talked about in the media,

2009
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 5: is that when we're like, oh, yeah, this is gonna

2010
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 5: come to the surface sooner or later.

2011
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And then it's also like, wow, it took

2012
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: that long for it to come to the surface as well. Yeah. Yeah,

2013
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes the media is right, it's like wow, it took

2014
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: them that long. But then sometimes it's like, wait, they're

2015
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: already way ahead of the game. How did they already

2016
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: know that it was that that was already coming to

2017
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: the serface? Or they would come up with something that

2018
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even up to the surface and it was never

2019
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: going to come up to the surface. But there's some

2020
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long,

2021
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: and you're surprised, you know now with media these days,

2022
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: when media doesn't catch on to something, it takes a

2023
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: while to get out. You're surprised with that.

2024
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, what were the conversations that took place to get

2025
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 4: you out of retirement into Tampa.

2026
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: Well, everything had a you know check out for me,

2027
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't just one situation that was gonna, you know,

2028
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: get me out of retirement. First off, I had to

2029
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know,

2030
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: those last two years in New England, and it was

2031
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis,

2032
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,879
Speaker 1: like the Sunday game. I couldn't recover until like Saturday,

2033
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: the following Saturday, and then to practice and all that.

2034
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: It was just becoming miserable. I mean everyone experiences that,

2035
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: and that's why everyone retires, especially because if you weren't

2036
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: experiencing that, and you're experiencing the joy of like playing,

2037
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: like when you're in twenty three, why the fuck would

2038
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: you retire, you know what I mean. So when it

2039
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: gets starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when

2040
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: you want to walk away from the game. And that's

2041
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: what I did. But I was really beat up too.

2042
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving,

2043
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, throughout your whole career. I involved found different situations,

2044
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, to recover. Also different workouts you know that

2045
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: can keep me on top of my game. Also kind

2046
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: of needed a different scenario, you know, different program you know.

2047
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: So when Tom went to Tampa. We just talked about

2048
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I

2049
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: love Florida. Totally different organization, felt more laid back. Definitely

2050
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: put the work in, but still more laid back like

2051
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: a country club.

2052
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

2053
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: They wanted me as well Tampa. It wasn't just Tom

2054
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: wanted me. The organization called me up to and they're like, yeah,

2055
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: we definitely want you be a part, you know, of

2056
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers family. I was feeling good as well and

2057
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: felt like I had more left in the tank. So

2058
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: every box checked off. And then obviously with Tom going

2059
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: down there to have that chemistry and just to keep

2060
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: it going on in a new program. So everything just

2061
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know, pled my way and I pulled

2062
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: the trigger to do it.

2063
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 5: And there it seems it sounds like they were willing

2064
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 5: to like cater around your expectation, what you wanted physically

2065
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 5: to like what your body needed, what you needed as

2066
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 5: how old are you at this time?

2067
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I was thirty years old.

2068
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a thirty three year old tight tight

2069
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 5: end was back in New England when you decided to retire,

2070
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 5: you talk about the joy and it just you hated

2071
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 5: showing up to work was a lot of it to

2072
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 5: the expectation and the stress that would come with the

2073
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 5: organization of the Patriots, like the standard that had lived

2074
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 5: and they expected you to live by when you're like, hey,

2075
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 5: I feel like my body would respond better doing this,

2076
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 5: or I feel like I should be doing this workout,

2077
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 5: because a lot of times you butt heads with those

2078
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 5: third party sources that we all use outside of the facility,

2079
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 5: and then you try to implement them inside and the

2080
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 5: whole ego battle kind of like butts heads.

2081
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit it right on the money, bro. You

2082
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, you played for a while,

2083
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: so you understand that, and every player kind of goes

2084
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: through that experience too. But in a way like I

2085
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: like in New England, like coaches never gave off anyone

2086
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: from practice, but like at the end of my career,

2087
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't be playing in a game

2088
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday and practice full speed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Like

2089
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm blocking guys. Think about what I'm doing. I'm running

2090
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: thirty five routes a game as well, like a wide receiver,

2091
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to block three, you know, three hundred

2092
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: pounders sometimes d ms that are two hundred and sixty

2093
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: pounds linebackers that are running all over the place on

2094
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: a continuous basis, every single place. So my energy and effort,

2095
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: and I'll put it is higher than anyone else out

2096
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: there on the football field if you really think about it.

2097
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: Because of the routes I got to run and also

2098
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 1: to be in shape blocking, and I just couldn't recover anymore.

2099
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Like Wednesday would come and I won't even want to

2100
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: hit anyone in the nine nine to seven. I'd be like, yo,

2101
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna put my hand in front of you,

2102
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, Like I didn't even want to hit, Like

2103
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: that's that's a bad feeling. You don't want to get

2104
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: hit and you're playing the game of football. But like

2105
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: if I took off like by like Thursday or Friday,

2106
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: like I was able to do it again, like have

2107
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: that mindset like, oh I'm ready to hit, but like no,

2108
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: no one would get off in practice or anything. So

2109
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: it was getting tough, like that mentality that aura in

2110
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: New England, Like I wanted a day off of practice

2111
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: and all that, but it was just tough and it

2112
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,520
Speaker 1: was tough to ask for it too because of the expectations.

2113
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: So when I got the Tampa exactly. But when I

2114
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: got to Tampa, they were kind of knowing, like, hey,

2115
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna we give Vets a day off, like you

2116
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: got to be truly proven though, like and I was

2117
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: proven at that time, and I was like, okay, I

2118
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: at least get one day off a week, and every

2119
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: in training camp, every three days, I get off too.

2120
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: And they were down for it. They were down.

2121
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: I bet you could have probably negotiated more coming out

2122
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 4: of retirement.

2123
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't need more though, But also with the

2124
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: mindset coming from New England, you kind of feel like

2125
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: you're letting the team down as well if you're taking

2126
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: off too much, you know, especially if you're not injured

2127
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: or you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool

2128
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: with it with my mindset because I truly knew that

2129
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully

2130
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me

2131
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: off every Friday my two years in Tampa, which I'm

2132
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: thankful for, which you know, I put the work in,

2133
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, Wednesday Thursday. But I truly believe that's what

2134
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: got me to play and got me, you know, to

2135
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: be able to play at the level I played. It

2136
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: wasn't the highest level of football that I could possibly

2137
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 1: play it like I was, but like to play at

2138
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: the highest level at that age and where I was. Yeah,

2139
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: taking off that Friday to at least make an impact

2140
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: on the field.

2141
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 4: Right, Well got you that incentive too, because there was

2142
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 4: that clip that came out of you going up to

2143
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 4: Tom being like, hey, I need one more Yes. And

2144
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 4: so you guys, are you were pulled out of that game? Correct,

2145
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 4: and You're like, I need to go back in.

2146
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we were. We were whomping them. It was

2147
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: like the third quarter. We were up like thirty five

2148
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 1: nothing or thirty five seven. So they pulled all the starters.

2149
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: But Tampa's cool, you know, they're cool like that. They

2150
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: want you to make all the possible money that you

2151
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: can make. Often the corner of Byron left which always

2152
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: said in the meeting, there's two things that you take

2153
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: away from football. On the end, he goes, it's your

2154
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 1: relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the

2155
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: two things that stick with you forever. And he says,

2156
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: so going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously, the

2157
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: most important thing is to win the game. But if

2158
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: we're up and you need an extra catch. We're going

2159
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: to get you that extra catch. We're going to get

2160
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: you that money. So we were winning. They pulled all

2161
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to

2162
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: get one more catch. We drew a play right on

2163
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 1: the right on the sideline. Hey, rob motion across. You're

2164
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: just gonna run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you

2165
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: and boom motion across. I actually false started, but they

2166
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: didn't get called. Where you lean forward a little bit, Yeah,

2167
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: that's called what's that called again? What's the Yeah? But

2168
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: you uh, where you accidentally move forward a little bit

2169
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 1: on the motion, that's apparently you're not allowed to move forward.

2170
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: Then it is a fall start. But there's a name

2171
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: for it. I can't think about it right now. But

2172
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: I did that actually, but they didn't call it because

2173
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: it was the game was just it was that way

2174
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: out of reach, ran that diagonal. Boom time hit me.

2175
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: It was it was my I needed I think like

2176
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: fifty five catches or something. That was my fifty fifth

2177
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: catch to hit my last incentive in my contract. Yeah,

2178
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: so Tampa's cool, cool like that.

2179
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever have incentive based stuff in your contracts?

2180
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 4: In New England. Yes, never did you ever miss one?

2181
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: My last year in New England, I basically missed them all.

2182
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: But my second last year in New England, I base

2183
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: I hit them all. Did you really? I fout out

2184
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: myself again going into that last year, but halfway through,

2185
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: halfway through, I didn't even care about them anymore. I

2186
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: was it was just like I gotta I gotta survive.

2187
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to survive here.

2188
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was what was hitting the most on you

2189
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 4: towards the end, like you're from your body standpoint, I

2190
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 4: had to survive this.

2191
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 3: It was a shoulder? Was your back at all? Again?

2192
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: It was inflammation in my body?

2193
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: Bro insert Adam bobo.

2194
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, inflammation, dude, Like it wasn't anything nagged while my

2195
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: back was nagging a lot, but I was inflamed. But

2196
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: like like I still have it to this day a

2197
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: little bit like if I go ham one day two

2198
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: days later, like I can't move like I'm inflamed, like

2199
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm slow. I kind of actually have it a little

2200
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: bit today. I haven't worked down Like two weeks I

2201
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,879
Speaker 1: did a hardcore yoga like forty eight hours ago exactly,

2202
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: and like I didn't go too hard in it. Because

2203
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: I knew I was coming on. But when I get inflamed,

2204
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: like I'm slower, like I can't run as fast, and

2205
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't recover fast enough and get

2206
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: rid of that inflammation. Even though I started finding ways

2207
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: to do it, It's just at that rapid rate and I

2208
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 1: was so far behind that just that slowness, just that

2209
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: not that burst anymore. You don't have that quickness either anymore,

2210
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't want to make you get hit either.

2211
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: Everything hurts then too. So animation was, you know, my

2212
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: biggest killer.

2213
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 5: I would say, is there a story outside of what

2214
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 5: you've already talked about in past conversations where you were

2215
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 5: going to get traded to Detroit? You threatened to retire,

2216
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 5: they don't trade you. Yeah, but was there a story

2217
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 5: behind the scenes about how the organization was kind of

2218
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 5: handling your situation that isn't known or that you haven't

2219
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 5: kind of talked about. Because everybody's aware that you did

2220
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 5: the whole threat to retire, they don't trade do You're

2221
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 5: back in New England?

2222
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, that was a tough year. We lost to the

2223
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles that year actually in the Super Bowl. After

2224
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: we after the comeback versus Falcons. So we went back

2225
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: to back Super Bowls. We were actually almost three Peter,

2226
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: we went to three Super Bowls in a row, but

2227
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: we just lost the middle one versus the Eagles. But

2228
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: that year was tough, man, I'm talking just the aura

2229
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: of the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season.

2230
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking like any player, Like it was just weird.

2231
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: But we were dominating. We were still winning. Uh, and

2232
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: we went to the Super Bowl, but just overall it

2233
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: was it was tough. And uh what what was the question.

2234
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 3: Again about when they were going to they were going

2235
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 3: to trade you together?

2236
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: There we go. I say that that's why I was

2237
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: bringing that up so that whole year. So then I

2238
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: was being an asshole after that year, you know, like

2239
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: they were trying to get a hold of me. I

2240
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: wasn't answering anything. I was saying ship in the media.

2241
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: I was just being a complete asshole. And then I'm

2242
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: with Monster Energy and Monster Energy has Monster Jam and

2243
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: uh at the at at in New England at Gillette Stadium,

2244
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: and I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization.

2245
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: I was kind of vocal in the media like this

2246
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: year sucked like kind of shit like that, like miserable here,

2247
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: Like I was one of those guys like like that

2248
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: was like the oral when everyone was saying it sucks

2249
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: to play in New England, Like there was those that

2250
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 1: one or two years that was when the Eagles players

2251
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 1: were going to the uh the parade and like ripping

2252
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: on the organization. Like yeah, I was one of the

2253
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year,

2254
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: like it was just a tough year just overall. So

2255
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: then I was being an asshole. I go to Monster

2256
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: Jam and I have to have a press conference there,

2257
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,839
Speaker 1: and uh, it's all the full like for my mounseers

2258
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: like hey, like you got to do the appearance at

2259
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: Monster Jam, and I was like, oh shit. I was

2260
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: like this ain't going to go over so well. So

2261
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: I show up to the press conference in the whole

2262
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: uniform like I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the

2263
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: helmet on. I go up to the press conference and

2264
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: they just start asking me football questions right away, and

2265
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm just giving fucking blatant, like asshole answers back. And

2266
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: then a week later is when I get the phone

2267
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: call and finally I answered Hey, we're gonna trade you.

2268
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: And I never wanted to get traded. Actually, I knew

2269
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: it was going to come down to this sell because

2270
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: of what I was doing. It was the counter reaction,

2271
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, the organization was doing back to me, like

2272
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: oh he wants being asshole, Well we're going to get

2273
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: rid of him. And that's when Patricia was the head

2274
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: coach at the Lions too, and he's like, all right,

2275
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna grab Gronk then I'm gonna trade for him.

2276
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: And I got the call. I got traded, but I

2277
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone

2278
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 1: call was going to come. I knew I was going

2279
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going

2280
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 1: to trade you to the Lions. I said, you can't

2281
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: trade a retire player. Yeah, right on the spot, I was,

2282
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't trade me. I'm retired, Like I just retired,

2283
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: Like you can't trade. My agent's like, you're a genius. True.

2284
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: I never got in this situation before. And then finally

2285
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 1: they Bill was like, well then, what the fuck is

2286
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: the problem? I went in, we hash everything out. I

2287
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: was like, the trade never went through. Then it got

2288
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: acts and actually it would have been through if I said,

2289
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: no problem. But uh, I ended up playing one more

2290
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: year doing I was like, I was like, business isn't done.

2291
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm just being an asshole a little bit. Business

2292
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: not done. Let's do one more year. I'm so glad

2293
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: I went back. I was actually about to retire though, too.

2294
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: I was really thinking about it, but I didn't feel

2295
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: right going to another team, not at all. I was like,

2296
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna end with another team. I'll do another

2297
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: year in New England. And we ended up winning the

2298
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And that was my last game in New England.

2299
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Winning that Super Bowl I think fifty three in Atlanta

2300
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: versus Los Angeles. Rams I did with that catch up

2301
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: the middle, the twenty eight yard bomb up to see

2302
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: him to the two yard line, and the Sony Michelle

2303
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: ran the ball right behind me in for the only

2304
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: touchdown of the game. So it all worked out in

2305
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: the end.

2306
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2307
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 5: Man, what made that year with Philadelphia so hard was

2308
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 5: the expectation coming off the prior Super Bowl.

2309
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Uh No, I was beat up a little bit still.

2310
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: My body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But

2311
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 1: uh just aura, Yeah, it was that. No, that was

2312
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: last year going in was was a lot better than

2313
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia season. I remember everyone just was pissed. I remember.

2314
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's just hard to explain, like what like

2315
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: what like why, like you just had to be a

2316
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: part of it.

2317
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, off the field, let's go. I like, off the field,

2318
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 4: you've done a lot of cameos. I havesh family guy

2319
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 4: the clapper. It sounds like a ven Area clapper.

2320
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: That's well had. That's why they beat us so bad

2321
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: in the holly Ball. We were staying away from them,

2322
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: like these guys have the clap.

2323
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 4: But dude, you've done You've done all of these different

2324
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 4: SpongeBob square Pants, Got to square.

2325
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 1: Pants still gives me residual checks for like two grand

2326
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: like ship like every like, dude, I mean the show

2327
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: is yeah, I love it, and I'm like, what did

2328
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: I do? SpongeBob SquarePants? I remember I sayg the like

2329
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 1: birthday song in one of the episodes. I still get

2330
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: residual checks from it.

2331
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 4: Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like

2332
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 4: the like the thing you were most excited for. Now

2333
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 4: do the people call you and be like, hey, we

2334
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 4: want grown to do this cameo? Or were you ever

2335
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 4: like calling a rigent me and like, I heard this

2336
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 4: movie's coming out. I heard the show. I love the

2337
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 4: show How I Met your Mother. I want to be

2338
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 4: a part of this.

2339
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 1: Kind of both, you know, especially at first, I wanted

2340
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 1: to be a part of cameos, Like I wanted to

2341
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: live that lifestyle. Like I said, I wasn't saying no

2342
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: going to the draft any that movie with Jamie Fox

2343
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: was at any given Sunday or right. I love that movie.

2344
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I want to live like that. They

2345
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: were a part of the locker room. After doing all

2346
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: that good shit, you know, I wanted to live like

2347
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: a movie. So I was just telling my people like, oh,

2348
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: I'll do any appearance in whatever movie. And then my

2349
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: very first one actually basically was the Entourage movie. Loved

2350
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: Entourage growing up as a kid. One of the one

2351
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 1: of the best shows like that when I was in

2352
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: high school, and I told my friends in high school,

2353
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on that show one fucking day watch

2354
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: And then I ended up getting in the movie, which

2355
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: was really really cool, and definitely I would say that

2356
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite appearances because what's funny is

2357
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 1: I was writing My Private Party and so I actually

2358
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: got to this set and I started taking shots with

2359
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: everyone because it was like eleven thirty pm at night

2360
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: and I was going out that night. So I started

2361
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: getting hammered on the spot and in the scene, I'm

2362
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: partying in the scene, so it worked out perfect. Yeah.

2363
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: I was actually hammered for that scene right now?

2364
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 3: Was that?

2365
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Was?

2366
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: That?

2367
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 4: Was that line? I lived when you stood up and screamed.

2368
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: No, No. They gave it to me and I took

2369
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: it to another level.

2370
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2371
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I was super handicapped. I was actually coming

2372
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: off the knee injury, so I was actually at you know,

2373
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 1: ACL surgery three months prior to that. But then we

2374
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: also put the armbrace on, like my arm was still

2375
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: fricking broken. Yeah, I was had a cane as well.

2376
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 1: It just just went along.

2377
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 4: Well, what was it like seeing Vinnie, Chase and Johnny

2378
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 4: and all those boys after watching that show for so

2379
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 4: long and being able to see them.

2380
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: It was the best. Dude. I love them to this day.

2381
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: I see them at charity events and everything and seeing drama.

2382
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: I love drama, his character and just drama as well

2383
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 1: as a person. Dude, great, dude. It was the best

2384
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: to be just be a part of it, you know,

2385
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: the dream Come True? Yeah, dream come true? Dude, all

2386
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: this stuff there, we are all this stuff. We are

2387
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,520
Speaker 1: pictures right there, right there's the set.

2388
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 4: Really was that show that if you watched it you

2389
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 4: wanted to be Vinnie Chase. You'd be like, how do

2390
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 4: I have the ability to live this life?

2391
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Well, Vinnie Chase was like too pretty, and like I

2392
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: knew I couldn't be Vinnie Chase. I was kind of like,

2393
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to. I just want to have a

2394
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: group like that, you know, a group of boys and

2395
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: group of boys like that, because I was kind of

2396
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 1: like Vinnie Chase, but I was more of like Johnny

2397
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Drama in a way. I was like them combined, you know, like, yeah, I.

2398
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 4: Got you, dude, that show. You got to watch that show.

2399
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: I know you never seen I've seen the movie. You've

2400
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: never seen the show Man the movie too. There's so

2401
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: many The show blows away the movie though, like absolutely.

2402
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 4: Blow is he is he maybe the best character of

2403
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 4: all time written character.

2404
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: God by Fire Drama you know competes with it, but

2405
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 1: he is just phenomenal, dude.

2406
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody touches in the show. He is

2407
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 4: so outstanding Taylor. He's all right. I knew I saw

2408
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 4: you looking at me too. I got the French. He's

2409
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 4: pissed off as I step out of the batter's box

2410
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 4: in baseball, we can't. Yeah, one wasn't a huge fan,

2411
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 4: isn't It wasn't a huge fan. No, no, no, no,

2412
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 4: this is.

2413
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I like you a lot more. Man

2414
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: on the show for you.

2415
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 5: Well, all the stuff that you've done off the field.

2416
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 5: It's it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of

2417
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 5: your NFL earnings.

2418
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: Is that true?

2419
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: Technically it's not true. Uh, well, it actually started working

2420
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 1: because Drew gave me a fifty thousand.

2421
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 3: Technically it's not true. Technically it is true.

2422
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: Technically it is true. Yes, what did I say it's

2423
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: not true? Well, technically I was wrong there, but technically

2424
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: it's true. I meant it's true. Drew Roshands actually gave

2425
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,799
Speaker 1: me a fifty thousand dollars up front, like marketing budget

2426
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and you got to pay them back

2427
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: over the time the first fifty grand you made. So

2428
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I actually took that fifty grand. I bought me a car,

2429
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, I paid for my spot up in New England.

2430
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: Actually with it, and then as I was getting a

2431
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: couple of deals, I paid them off. But just overall,

2432
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, I actually I'm very frugal, you know, and lived,

2433
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, with a roommate my first couple of years.

2434
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know how long the NFL was gonna last.

2435
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I was a second round pick, so it was like

2436
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: a four year, four million dollar deal, and I was like,

2437
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: if I played this contract out, I'll be set for life.

2438
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: I got two million dollars in my bank, I can

2439
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: make a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars of interest.

2440
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I was like, if I only played three four years,

2441
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me too,

2442
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: that I could be good as well, Like like if hey,

2443
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you

2444
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: know that, I think I could be whatever, I'm still

2445
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: set for life, because two million in the bank is

2446
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: set for life to me, you know at that time.

2447
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: So I just always wanted to save it, and I

2448
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 1: just used my money that I was getting off the

2449
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: field to just spend it on whatever I needed to

2450
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,520
Speaker 1: spend it on. And then therefore it just kept continuing,

2451
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: and to this day, technically I have not spent any of.

2452
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 3: My into crazy.

2453
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 5: How when you're young, you have the mindset like, if

2454
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 5: I'll have two million dollars, I'll be set for life.

2455
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 5: And I know, obviously two million dollars is a lot

2456
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 5: of money, But as time goes and you get older

2457
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 5: in your lifestyle that.

2458
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 3: You do have, you're like, oh, fuck, two million. Two

2459
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 3: million wouldn't get me very far if I continue to

2460
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 3: like live the way you think you can live right

2461
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 3: first on a deal for like four years four million dollars.

2462
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's scary how there's like always a new level

2463
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 4: to it. Like you think, if I can get to

2464
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 4: this point, that's all I need, blah blah blah. But

2465
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 4: then you get to that point and you're like, what

2466
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 4: is this?

2467
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

2468
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 4: There's a private aviation you can get on a plane

2469
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,799
Speaker 4: and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy.

2470
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 4: It always is always changing. It's always.

2471
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you he's gonna be quiet the whole

2472
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: entire time. He's gonna let us know when it's his turn.

2473
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: And now he's letting us know it's his turn. All right,

2474
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 1: But buddy, buddy, we still got a little bit.

2475
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 4: Longer, just a little just a little bit arder.

2476
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: We'll give you.

2477
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 4: We'll give us ten, buddy.

2478
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Give us a little bit longer, Buddy. I told you though,

2479
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 1: I call him. I know this guy way too. Uh yeah, see,

2480
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: come do come up here, good dog.

2481
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: Don't you think about old Ravees in New England?

2482
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, I was waiting for this

2483
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: subject to come up actually because you guys know Rapes.

2484
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: You guys both played for him. But I think that's

2485
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: the perfect fit, you know, for New England overall, just

2486
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 1: for the organization, for the fan base, for the Craft family.

2487
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I just love his mancha. I love

2488
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 1: what he stands for. I never really met Vrabel before

2489
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 1: just for a quick second. I've heard plenty of stories

2490
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 1: of him because he was that first era of being

2491
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 1: a you know, a Patriot and winning all the Super Bowls.

2492
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: But just to see the way he progressed as a

2493
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: coach too. That's why he's such a good fit too

2494
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: for New England because he's established. He put his time

2495
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: in as a player, put his time in as a coach,

2496
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: going to Ohio State, working his way up, going to

2497
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Houston is like what DC or whatever then getting the

2498
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: head So he took a step every single way to

2499
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: get to where he is. And I think he just

2500
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 1: has the personality just from just seeing it and just

2501
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 1: hearing from other players that I think he's the truest

2502
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: perfect fit possibly possible for the second era, you know,

2503
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: after Bill Belichick and what they're doing so far in

2504
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: New England. I mean, you can't really argue with any

2505
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: of the moves that they have made so far. I

2506
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: think they have made every move, you know, correctly with

2507
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: the draft, with who they took, all the way from

2508
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: free agency, they had all that money, they went and

2509
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: got the guys they needed to get for the positions

2510
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 1: they needed to get. You never know, though, like when

2511
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: you make a team out of free agency, you never

2512
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,560
Speaker 1: know how it's going to be. Guy like Rabel I

2513
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 1: feel like he can gel him because he's a guy

2514
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 1: that can gel people from. I mean, he played offense

2515
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:01,879
Speaker 1: before special teams defense, like those guys, Gee, they'll.

2516
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 3: Tell you, He'll tell you.

2517
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 4: He'll tell you. He's done it all too. I mean

2518
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 4: fourteen years in the NFL and he's been the guy

2519
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 4: on every part of the entire roster. I mean, if

2520
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 4: you look at like the Titans in twenty twenty one,

2521
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 4: I think they set a record for the most players

2522
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 4: play because of all the injuries, and we were the

2523
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 4: number one seed going into the playoffs. Obviously we lost

2524
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 4: the first round we played, but that that shows a

2525
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 4: guy that can gel his team. I really, I think

2526
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 4: it just depends on Drake May. If Drake May can

2527
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: show up in a big way and take a step

2528
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 4: from her one to year two, like the Patriots could

2529
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 4: be good, actually good with all the with all the

2530
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 4: free agency acquisitions.

2531
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm going on record to say that they're making the

2532
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: playoffs this year as well. I don't think you know

2533
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 1: that they may they have a chance at the division,

2534
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: but the Bells, but it's it's AFC. Dolphins are gonna dolphin.

2535
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna look beautiful real quick out of

2536
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 1: the water, and they're gonna sink back down. The Jets. Yeah,

2537
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we know they're just too far away still,

2538
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, and then the Bells are gonna you know,

2539
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: Bills are good, there's established. They're gonna obviously be the dominant.

2540
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: But I think Patriots they can they can sneak into

2541
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. I can see that. I don't

2542
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 1: think they're gonna you know, compete for a super Bowl.

2543
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 1: But I think in the end, in the two three years,

2544
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: possibly yes, But this year they're going to be making

2545
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: a big impact.

2546
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 4: I mean if you go from what the fourth overall

2547
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 4: pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's

2548
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 4: a huge jomb.

2549
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 5: We should get a speaking of, since we're all team

2550
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 5: fan duel, we should get a little futures parlay going.

2551
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 5: I want to say the Commanders over unders nine and

2552
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 5: a half, Titans are five and a half and Patriots

2553
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 5: are seven and a half wins, get a little combine

2554
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 5: them all, futures bed hit the overs, hit the overs

2555
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 5: on them all.

2556
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why

2557
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: can't we each do the over and then the Titans

2558
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: we do the under.

2559
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 3: You think the Titans will struggle in that win over

2560
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 3: six games?

2561
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now, how many did they get

2562
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: last year?

2563
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 4: Three?

2564
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 1: I think they got three. I think they got four

2565
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: or five in them this year?

2566
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 4: No, was it five?

2567
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I know this is the improvement. Yeah, they got they

2568
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: got the quarterback number one overall pick, But I'm just

2569
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: saying overall, where what else did they get?

2570
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 4: This is a good page they did. They paid a

2571
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 4: left tackle eighty million dollars and they're gonna move their

2572
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 4: left eckle from last year play all seventeen games. He

2573
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 4: was a top ten pick over the right side. They

2574
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 4: got Zeitler at right guard. Now they got Cushion Berry

2575
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 4: at center. And then you have a guy going to

2576
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 4: his third year that was a eleventh overall pick. It's

2577
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 4: Peter Skronski at left guard. So we have a good

2578
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 4: offensive line. All right, all right, you got Calvin Ridley

2579
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 4: and you got two great backs and Spears and Pollard

2580
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 4: and you got it really depends on like cam Ward

2581
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 4: can If cam Moore can be who we've kind of

2582
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 4: seen him be, then they are going to easily win

2583
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 4: over five minutes.

2584
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 1: It's all on Ward.

2585
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,560
Speaker 4: It is just like just like just like the Patriots,

2586
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 4: it's all on Drake May because you got seven and

2587
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 4: a half, we got five and a half.

2588
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: With that breakdown, you know, I feel more comfortable taking

2589
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: me over.

2590
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 4: I will say, well, let me.

2591
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 3: Pay a meeting, team meeting. Maybe we go both options's

2592
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 3: one under one's under seven and a half.

2593
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got we gotta go over. If I

2594
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: say that, making the play can be over. Yeah, And

2595
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: that's a weak division as well, you know.

2596
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 4: One monsters, you have a monster.

2597
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah with the Bills. But going over is going big.

2598
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm going over big time.

2599
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 4: We're all just gonna be so biased.

2600
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: And then what's the commander is ninety and a half half,

2601
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: which is a big one, but that is big Daniels

2602
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 1: in a second year, I mean, and they only upgraded

2603
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: their team as well. They went out and got some

2604
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: more talent. You know, you got Cliff Kingsbury is off

2605
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: in the corner. He's established. He knows how to handle players,

2606
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 1: and he knows how to break down players talent as

2607
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: well and use it. So I like the over. We

2608
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 1: got to do a parlay where it's just all over there.

2609
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 4: But also big, go up, Go up to September fourteenth,

2610
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 4: it's the first game or September seventh. September seventh, the

2611
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 4: Raiders dub but Pete Carroll, Yeah, the new running back

2612
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 4: in there, Gino Smith is there. They're going to run

2613
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 4: the ball, They're gonna play good football. Toss up. You

2614
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 4: said the Dolphins come out of come out of the

2615
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 4: water early in the season and look really pretty. That

2616
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 4: one's in Miami, and that one's in Miami.

2617
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: It's in Miami, but did you see portnoy breakdown the

2618
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: Patriots schedule.

2619
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he's goat.

2620
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean they're going seventeen and oh so he did

2621
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: do a great job. He did a good jay, he

2622
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: did a good job. I like usually I looked, I

2623
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: was like five and a half minutes, like the first

2624
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, the first breakdown of the first game. I

2625
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I was like, maybe I can

2626
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: watch five and a half minutes. But he was so

2627
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: good and entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of the

2628
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: Las Vegas game, I was like, all right, I gotta

2629
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: watch every single one. I watched the whole entire video

2630
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: and I literally walked away like that was good.

2631
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 3: It might be seventeen, Yeah, that might be.

2632
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 4: There's a reason why Dave is where Dave's act. Yeah,

2633
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 4: he can talk.

2634
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: But Steelers, we're breaking down the whole schedule.

2635
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at seven games.

2636
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: They're going above seven. I mean, we got the Steelers number.

2637
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: The Patriots always take down the Steelers no matter what

2638
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: you guys have, we just do schedule.

2639
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 5: You got the Panthers, it's very favorite, Saints, Browns, Falcons.

2640
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half there,

2641
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 4: Jets we feel good about it.

2642
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: We're going over seven and a half.

2643
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, the Titans, I know I talked a big

2644
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 4: big about their offense, but they are going to have

2645
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 4: holes on defense, Like they're going to have their cornerback.

2646
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 4: Their secondary is going to be in a tough position.

2647
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be tough on a rookie quarterback then too,

2648
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: because if rookie quarterback needs help from the defense in

2649
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: order to get truly established and understand everything.

2650
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 4: Going on and from behind all the time exactly.

2651
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: And when you're playing from behind as a rookie, it's

2652
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: tough to get over that hump. Then it's tough to

2653
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,839
Speaker 1: win games. I mean, you got to be truly established

2654
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: as a quarterback in order to understand, like, all right,

2655
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 1: this is what we got to do from behind. This

2656
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 1: is what we got to do with a shitty defense, right,

2657
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: that's hired to understand your rookie year. Yeah, you know

2658
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL at that position. But I'm down. I'm

2659
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: down the dude, I'm down to parlay. Actually, I got

2660
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: my phone, right hair, I'm up with the parlay in

2661
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 1: right now.

2662
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 3: At least build it so odd.

2663
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I won that bet. I won that bet last Night

2664
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Florida Panthers taking down you know, the Toronto maple Leafs

2665
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: in game seven. Uh, do you need another moment of

2666
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 1: silence for that?

2667
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, thank.

2668
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,040
Speaker 4: You for thinking about my feelings, but we don't need to.

2669
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2686
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I got the odds for

2687
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans regular season wins. But they give plenty

2688
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 1: of odds. You can do over three and a half

2689
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: wins or over five and a half wins, are over

2690
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: seven and a half wins. So you're saying the standard

2691
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: odds are over five and a half wins?

2692
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 4: What does it say?

2693
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Straight up? I don't know. It's minus one thirty for

2694
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: five and a half wins.

2695
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, then that's the one that they'll be right, all right.

2696
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: So that's the one we want right there? So how

2697
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: do I parlay that? Do? I?

2698
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 4: Uh, just go to another bet?

2699
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go to the New England Patriots. All

2700
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: right there, Washington commanders, click that? So what we want

2701
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: to over nine and a half wins? That's minus one

2702
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: time that's the one we want. Then, all right, all right,

2703
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: there we go that that parlay, same game parlay, And

2704
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: now we're going with the New England Patriots. Where are

2705
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: you guys right there? Over under seven and a half

2706
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: minus one fifty? That's it? Just clicked it, all right?

2707
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh now it's a plus four seventy three overall four

2708
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: so how much? So this is a future bet I'm gonna.

2709
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 3: Don't do it yet. We might get it. We could,

2710
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 3: we could get a little juice from FanDuel. Yeah, we

2711
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 3: tell them we get we get done with the bus.

2712
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 3: We hit a fanue. Hey, we want to put this

2713
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 3: rock and the boys parlay.

2714
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put all put a

2715
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 1: little something on it now, and then I'm gonna go

2716
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: big when they give us that little juice. So I'm

2717
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna do three hundred. There we go,

2718
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: three hundred, right there, three hundred. I'm gonna win fourteen hundred. Okay,

2719
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: that's about right there. I'm feeling good. We're all feeling

2720
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: good about it.

2721
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our tier

2722
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 4: talk today is gonna be best movie couples'. That's what

2723
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 4: I'm hearing.

2724
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, best movie couples which is tough. I've thought about

2725
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 3: it is it's very hard.

2726
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: I love like the outside football talk. I thrive football

2727
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 1: is great to talk about it. But I can't talk

2728
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 1: too much football. I really can't.

2729
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 4: I really came out, you're going to talk about more

2730
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 4: than just football.

2731
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: I love talking more. I love off the field type. Yeah,

2732
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: breaking conversations. My so what's this one.

2733
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 3: I'll kick it off with tier talk, all right, Sorry,

2734
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 3: teer talk is what I live for. Tier three, Tier two,

2735
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 3: tier one. You're ranking them three all the way.

2736
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 1: We got honorable mention as well.

2737
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 5: You can't throw it on all right, and for an

2738
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 5: honorable mention, My first honorable mention is going to be

2739
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 5: Noah and Ali from The Notebook. It's a movie that'll

2740
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 5: stay in the test of time. Great love story. I

2741
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 5: do enjoy love and sticking on the theme of love,

2742
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 5: enjoy love. I do enjoy love. I love a good

2743
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 5: tier dress. Love is the greatest drug out there.

2744
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Amen. Amen.

2745
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 5: My Tier three is going to be Jerry and Holly

2746
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 5: from PS I Love You. Great tier jerker movie, right there,

2747
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 5: Great tier jerker movie where Jerry knows he's gonna die

2748
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 5: and he writes these little ps I Love You notes.

2749
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 5: All throughout her life she finds them. It is a

2750
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 5: very great love story. My Tier two is going to

2751
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 5: be Rocky and Adrian one of the best proposals of

2752
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 5: all time, where he says, hey, you know, what are you.

2753
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 3: Doing for the next forty or fifty years and she's like,

2754
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't know why, and he's like, you wouldn't mind

2755
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 3: marrying me too much?

2756
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 5: Anything right, And she's like, huh, He's like, you wouldn't

2757
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 5: mind marrying me too much? She says, yes, Rocky Adrian,

2758
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 5: great love story.

2759
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 3: That is my tier two. My tier one is none

2760
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 3: other than Shred in Fiona O great one.

2761
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh man.

2762
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 5: You know it gets into the end. She loves Shrek.

2763
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 5: She doesn't want to be with the Prince, she doesn't

2764
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 5: care to be the queen. And that is all time

2765
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 5: love story.

2766
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 3: That is my tier one.

2767
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 1: I watched that with Camille last year for the first time,

2768
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 1: and I'm in love. I'm in love with Trek.

2769
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shrek is a great, great, great movie. Have you

2770
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 3: watched all of them? Since you kind of like.

2771
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 1: In some comparisons? Yeah, I can't believe you didn't say that.

2772
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Big Well.

2773
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, no, homo, I think you're no

2774
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 3: paus really too, I think you're a good looking cat.

2775
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah you're not. I'm in a

2776
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 3: way you got some ore tenons.

2777
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, Shrunk kind of looks like

2778
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: me a little bit.

2779
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 4: So now we give one word to describe how we

2780
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 4: feel about Wills. Tear talk. I'll go first, hyphenated saved it.

2781
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: What was your one?

2782
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 4: Mard saved it? That's too hyphenated.

2783
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's one. Uh spectacular yeah mm hmm, thank you.

2784
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 7: Boys, shrunk, m lovely, buzzer beater, emotional, money, strong.

2785
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 3: Touching, Thank you boys, thank you.

2786
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: Wow. I was getting turned on from all those descriptions.

2787
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got that.

2788
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Uh, I got that spark and yourself really did feel

2789
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: it back there. The emotions a boy's emotions.

2790
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 3: Taylor, would you like to go second? Or should we go?

2791
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 3: Do we want to throw the grunk?

2792
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: All right? So just best movie couples. Yeah, all right,

2793
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: my honorable mention, I'm gonna go with my girlfriend and

2794
02:01:55,680 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum and in the movie, oh shure was that

2795
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 1: movie that she was in, Free Guy? In Free Guy?

2796
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: It was the opening scene. Yeah, it was really it

2797
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: was really touching's honorable mention because they weren't really dating,

2798
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 1: but like they kind of where it was like going

2799
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 1: on a date, like the opening scene. It was. It was,

2800
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 1: But I gotta give it honorable mention. He's yeah, I

2801
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: know he is.

2802
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:22,200
Speaker 3: And he's got moves. You talk about dance.

2803
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: I know. I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Yeah, So, uh,

2804
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: that's honorable mention. You gotta see it, free guy. It's

2805
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: a great movie. She's not she's a hot chick in

2806
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the beginning in the car with Channing. Yeah yeah, there

2807
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 1: they are right there, and he's bad ass. Yeah, that's

2808
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: a good one. It was a badass scene. So I

2809
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: gotta give her some credit there. She did very well

2810
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: throughout that whole movie. And then, uh, I'll go with

2811
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 1: number three. I'll go with uh Justin Baldini and Blake

2812
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 1: Lively and it ends with us. Yeah. I still haven't

2813
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: seen the movie, but it's talked about so much that

2814
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, put him in in that ballgame

2815
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 1: of being top three. I mean, when you talked about

2816
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 1: that much, it's got to be a power couple, you

2817
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 1: know throughout the movie it ends with us. So that's

2818
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 1: number three. Number two, Tier two, I'll go with Shia

2819
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 1: La Buff. You say it's for Shia La Buff and

2820
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 1: uh Megan Fox in the Transformers one Transformers one one. Yeah,

2821
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that was excellent, dude, who doesn't love you know,

2822
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: Transformers one and and they were like an ultra power

2823
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 1: couple in that movie. And uh, number one, you know

2824
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 1: it was a real life relationship. At the time too.

2825
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 1: And also they made one of the best movies of

2826
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 1: all the time, I'm a big action guy, mister and

2827
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: Missus Smith with Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt. Yes, it

2828
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 1: hit all aspects of that category because they were real

2829
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 1: life relationship. It was a relationship in the movie. And

2830
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:59,280
Speaker 1: it is also an action movie and I love action movies.

2831
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 1: So that's number one. And by fire for me, mm hmm.

2832
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 3: My word.

2833
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 1: Fireworks is that two words? Is that fireworks combined or

2834
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: or with the little dash like fire dash words.

2835
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 3: Fireworks is one word.

2836
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: It is one word. You're right, yeah, yeah, you're you're

2837
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 1: using you're using, just making sure.

2838
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 4: My one word amazing, boys.

2839
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 7: Shrunk, shrunk again, perfect, incredible, strong, hyphenated, gronk, spike.

2840
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that's one word.

2841
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 3: Solid, elite buddy. That was.

2842
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 4: And mister Missus Smith is one that's not on my list.

2843
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 4: And if I could redo it, I probably would because

2844
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 4: it's so great. I'm not gonna take it.

2845
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

2846
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 4: My Tier three is going to go to test and

2847
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 4: Finn from Fools Gold that's played by Kate Hudson and

2848
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 4: Matth McConaughey. Now, at the beginning of the movie, they're

2849
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 4: getting divorced. The whole movie, they're getting divorced. Towards the end,

2850
02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 4: you'll have to watch it spoiler alert, they get back together.

2851
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful one in Matthew McConaughey looks phenomenal movie.

2852
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 4: Not to educate.

2853
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I actually just read his book green Light. I just

2854
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: finished it. This very solid. Any chance, if you like

2855
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 1: to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book.

2856
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:23,320
Speaker 4: Shout out Matthew McConaughey. My tier two is going to

2857
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 4: go to Vanessa and Deadpool in the first movie. The

2858
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 4: passion that those two have with each other, trying to

2859
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 4: outdo each other, and how bad their child childhoods are.

2860
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 4: They didn't get engaged with a was it a ring pop?

2861
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, the big C word

2862
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 4: comes and obviously we know how the whole entire movie goes.

2863
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 4: My Tier one is going to go to uh, Jeremy

2864
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 4: Gray and John beckwith from Wedding Crashers. You probably say, Taylor,

2865
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 4: there's two guys. They weren't married. Life in business is

2866
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,840
Speaker 4: like a marriage with your best friends. Those two working

2867
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 4: together tirelessly during wedding season to grab and stab all

2868
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 4: these other beautiful women is something that takes a lifelong

2869
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 4: friendship to achieve, which is a marriage. And that is

2870
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 4: why they're my Tier one.

2871
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go first. I'll say creative because of

2872
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: the of your Tier one.

2873
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 4: Thank you, Wham, greatest Hits, Mazzele, top.

2874
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 1: Ring Pop, Silver Metal, those are those are both.

2875
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 4: Need gotta say hyphenated.

2876
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 8: Third place, Boom boom boom, how many three booms?

2877
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 4: Okay, boom boom boom, great Tier to you understand? You

2878
02:06:58,920 --> 02:06:59,919
Speaker 4: understood the assignment.

2879
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation

2880
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 1: like football. Can you know? Go for so long?

2881
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 2: Right?

2882
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2883
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 4: Whatever's episode to bring you True Classic. Now listen, you're

2884
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:14,360
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2885
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,240
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2886
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 4: at True Classes dot Com Forward slash Busting. They've done

2887
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 4: so well they're doing a kids in women's line launch

2888
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 4: later this year. Now you might see me wearing the

2889
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 4: all black my usual cartoon uniform right now, grabs the shoulders,

2890
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 4: holds the chest in real nice. Can we get an

2891
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 4: we get a wide match? I want to show them

2892
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 4: a little how they how flexible. This is so I

2893
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 4: got the left leg up.

2894
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 3: Here, I'm gonna bring that down, bring that all the

2895
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 3: way there right there.

2896
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 4: The only thing hold me back is my own flexibility.

2897
02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 4: That's the only thing holding me back.

2898
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 1: You see.

2899
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 3: It's very good mobility, very good range by true classic.

2900
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 4: Great job, true classic. They look good. So you can

2901
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 4: play good. Let's get back to this episode.

2902
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 5: Here's a football here's a question in the football world. However,

2903
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 5: I think it involves you being a student of the

2904
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 5: game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there.

2905
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 5: During the COVID year when a lot of things were virtual,

2906
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 5: you are. There's a story about you potentially wearing different

2907
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 5: T shirts while you're doing a sprint workout to send

2908
02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 5: it in. Give some game to the young couts out there,

2909
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 5: and how you gain Yeah.

2910
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 1: You got it. Work smarter, not hired or borys. You know,

2911
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. And that's what you know

2912
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 1: keeps you around a lot longer, too, is you can

2913
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: work as hard as you want, but if you're doing

2914
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: something that's making you insane and you just keep working harder,

2915
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna get more insane, you know. But you gotta

2916
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,480
Speaker 1: work smarter. So you're supposed to. You know, during COVID,

2917
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 1: you were doing all the workouts at home and you

2918
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: had to send it into an app that you were

2919
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: proved to prove that you were doing the workouts. So

2920
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 1: you actually had to film yourself like benching and film yourself,

2921
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, running the routes or running the sprints, but

2922
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do the whole entire bench like

2923
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: it was like your last set, or you would have

2924
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 1: to you know, show like two of the runs that

2925
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 1: you were doing. So instead of filming myself running every time,

2926
02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: I just film So that day, you have twelve runs,

2927
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 1: so you got to show two of them. So instead

2928
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: of filling myself every single time to submit the runs,

2929
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 1: I brought out six different T shirts and every two runs,

2930
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 1: I would switch my T shirt up and then film

2931
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:13,600
Speaker 1: the whole entire run that day, and then I would

2932
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:15,840
Speaker 1: submit those two runs with a different T shirt on

2933
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 1: every single time that those moments came up that I

2934
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 1: had to submit it. And so I tricked them. So

2935
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:25,320
Speaker 1: I tricked them. So technically maybe I didn't run that

2936
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 1: day then because I was like, I'll just use the video.

2937
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bench.

2938
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: Tricked them.

2939
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 4: When did do you did you tell on yourself or

2940
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 4: did somebody ever find out?

2941
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 1: I told on myself, told the story to the reporters

2942
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: actually that year, and then on like like what the fuck?

2943
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:48,560
Speaker 1: I got everyone hitting me up? You're an asshole? He

2944
02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 1: thought it was great.

2945
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,840
Speaker 4: That is a funny, funny piece of game.

2946
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:52,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

2947
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 4: Last question, the bud light question. Everybody knows anybody they

2948
02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 4: would do anything for a bud light. What is one

2949
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 4: th one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for?

2950
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 4: Can't say family?

2951
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 6: Oh uh, well, my dog's technically family, right yeah, yeah, girlfriend,

2952
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 6: technically family.

2953
02:10:17,720 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what would I do anything for?

2954
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 2: Uh?

2955
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: Dang, you know that's that's a really good question. I

2956
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 1: would do anything to be happy at all times twenty

2957
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: four to seven.

2958
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:33,360
Speaker 4: That would be something special.

2959
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 1: You can't go against that, right, Oh you know I

2960
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, that'd be happy at all times.

2961
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:41,640
Speaker 4: What about what about playing your junior of college?

2962
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, physically that's mentally so now physically I

2963
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 1: would go back. I would love to play my junior

2964
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 1: year in college. And also I transferred my senior year

2965
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 1: in high school. If I could somehow play that year

2966
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 1: that I played in Pittsburgh. But also play the year

2967
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 1: at my old old high school as well. Yeah, so

2968
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:08,840
Speaker 1: if I could like do double senior seasons in high

2969
02:11:08,840 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 1: school and play the year my junior year in college

2970
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: at Arizona, because you do you like when you leave,

2971
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:17,839
Speaker 1: like you miss your boy like I left my boys,

2972
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: like in high school. You know, I went to a

2973
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 1: different school. I was getting trouble and stuff. There's a

2974
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 1: lot more to it. But then I went to Pittsburgh

2975
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 1: my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends

2976
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 1: with all those guys like to this day, and like

2977
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 1: you're leaving them, you know, I mean it's for the

2978
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: better in the end, Like it worked out for sure,

2979
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 1: but like still like you wish you could, you know,

2980
02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: you watch all the high school movies and everything like

2981
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights, and like you wish you could finish

2982
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,880
Speaker 1: strong with the people you started with, right, but it

2983
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 1: just didn't work that way. And same with you know,

2984
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 1: my third year you know, at the University of Arizona.

2985
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 1: So I would do anything. You're right mentally to be

2986
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 1: happy at all the times. So it's being happy's great,

2987
02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: Like and energize and energize and then physically go back

2988
02:11:58,240 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 1: and play those years.

2989
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 5: What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for kind of kind

2990
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 5: of came as a surprise, like during retirement. Like you're

2991
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:08,160
Speaker 5: a guy Hall of Fame career, one of the best

2992
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 5: to ever do it, and you obviously tasted retirement that

2993
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 5: one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay.

2994
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:16,040
Speaker 5: But now you're like officially retiredment. What's something you feel

2995
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 5: like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement?

2996
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, being on a routine. You know, when you're

2997
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 1: playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you

2998
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 1: always have a routine. You gotta be at practice, you

2999
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:28,160
Speaker 1: gotta you know, be in the film room like it's there,

3000
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 1: like it's handed to you like a you know, a

3001
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: schedule every single day, that routine you know what to

3002
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:37,480
Speaker 1: do and get prepared for. And then once you retire,

3003
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: that routine's totally thrown out the window. It's kind of

3004
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 1: up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're

3005
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 1: going to work out, when you're going to do this,

3006
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So

3007
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:48,800
Speaker 1: just getting on a routine and when you totally get

3008
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,280
Speaker 1: off of it as well, it fucks with you. You know,

3009
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 1: like you're you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're

3010
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 1: flying all over the place, you're not doing the right things,

3011
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 1: you're not getting your workouts in h and all that stuff,

3012
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 1: and you're just so used to doing all that, you know,

3013
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 1: on a continuous basis, even if you don't feel like it.

3014
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 1: You have to do it when you're an athlete because

3015
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:10,040
Speaker 1: everyone else is doing it. You don't have that push

3016
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: around you. So that that was that's the tough spot,

3017
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 1: is getting that push, you know, to get to the

3018
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,840
Speaker 1: next level. And also that routine of always you know,

3019
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:20,920
Speaker 1: being on the grind and getting things done.

3020
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, because when it's snowballs, you're just laying there and

3021
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 5: you just get so mad at yourself from falling out

3022
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 5: of a routine.

3023
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:27,360
Speaker 3: Yah, then you start talking to yourself like in ways

3024
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,400
Speaker 3: like you said, like, oh, mentally weak, Like I'm fucking

3025
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 3: for Look what's happened to you?

3026
02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 4: Look at a photo of yourself, like that guy worked hard.

3027
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys got it down though, Like

3028
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 1: look at you guys that keep each other accountable. I

3029
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 1: bet you know doing the show. You got to get

3030
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:41,880
Speaker 1: a routine and you know, get prepared for it, you know,

3031
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 1: study up. Same thing with myself and Julian, Uh, we

3032
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:47,440
Speaker 1: got our podcast Dudes on Dudes. So you got to

3033
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 1: prepare for that, get mentally readily kind of physically ready

3034
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 1: to because you want to be physically feeling good at

3035
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 1: all times. It keeps your mental game uh sharp. So

3036
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 1: you just got to find, you know, the guys out

3037
02:13:58,160 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: there that want to get on the same page with

3038
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:01,480
Speaker 1: you and want to do that as well.

3039
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 3: What is it likeet diving into the podcast world with jewels.

3040
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. And what's great about it, Julian already

3041
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:10,360
Speaker 1: had his podcast Games with Names, So yeah, Julian was

3042
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 1: experienced the podcast. I never thought it was like really

3043
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 1: for me. I always liked going on people's podcasts, but

3044
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I said no, for like ever, I

3045
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:18,480
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to start my own podcast.

3046
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:20,120
Speaker 1: But then once I went on Julian's and we had

3047
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 1: the chemistry, and then I saw that Julian can carry

3048
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:25,880
Speaker 1: the load of the podcast too, the load. We were

3049
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 1: just talking about that on Sunday Conversations, like He's like, oh,

3050
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:31,839
Speaker 1: Julian takes the whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah,

3051
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 1: so that just brought you kind of triggered in my mind.

3052
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, so he's going to

3053
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:38,040
Speaker 1: be the like, he's going to be there to help

3054
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 1: me along and everything, and it's just great to have

3055
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 1: a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And

3056
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 1: his team around him was already experienced, everything set up

3057
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:47,720
Speaker 1: ready to go right when you walk in. So I

3058
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,320
Speaker 1: was like, I can do it now, and it was

3059
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:50,760
Speaker 1: just the right fit. It's kind of like going to

3060
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,880
Speaker 1: Tampa had to be the right fit.

3061
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you travel out there to do it each

3062
02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 5: time you guys do the pod?

3063
02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in La all the time for the pregame

3064
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:00,480
Speaker 1: for the Fox Show. So we usually just knock out

3065
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 1: an episode or two on like that Monday or Friday

3066
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:06,360
Speaker 1: or something. And now that it's off season, we get together,

3067
02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:08,200
Speaker 1: Like we were just in Boston last week. We knocked

3068
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:10,720
Speaker 1: out two episodes. But if we're not, we just do

3069
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 1: it over Zoom. Got Yeah, so half of them right

3070
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:14,520
Speaker 1: now in the off season are over Zoom. The other

3071
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 1: half are one we can get in person whenever we can.

3072
02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:17,760
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

3073
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:19,120
Speaker 3: And we got to get all the boys together.

3074
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get the four of us in one room.

3075
02:15:21,160 --> 02:15:21,839
Speaker 4: That'd be awesome.

3076
02:15:22,120 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 1: The really big rudes, it would be good. Stuff. Gosh,

3077
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:28,560
Speaker 1: are you guys Basically you guys are like football with

3078
02:15:28,640 --> 02:15:31,680
Speaker 1: a little all football with a little everything else as well.

3079
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say probably seventy percent football and the off

3080
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:39,200
Speaker 4: season two. Like I mean we have like comedians, musicians,

3081
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 4: like all coaches, players, all these different things.

3082
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically out football

3083
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 1: in the first couple though, and I was like, bro,

3084
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm not all football, like like I can't. So now

3085
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,840
Speaker 1: we're switching up with like fan questions or like or

3086
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 1: that like tier talk that we just did with the

3087
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:55,800
Speaker 1: movie couples. Like we come up with segments like that

3088
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:57,760
Speaker 1: now too, And I'm like this is way better. Like

3089
02:15:57,880 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 1: football is great for half of it, but the other

3090
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 1: half winding just freelance was going on what you're doing

3091
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 1: at the moment, like what you learn, like new technique,

3092
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 1: new trick in life or whatever with new hat, just whatever,

3093
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 1: just go off. So not just all about football. Now

3094
02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 1: we're kind of blastoming more like because of it, hot

3095
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:16,560
Speaker 1: topics whatever He's talked about right there. So football is great,

3096
02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, but like to do it twenty four seven.

3097
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:21,440
Speaker 1: I like, I like abroad of you know, of everything.

3098
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that absolutely with you before we

3099
02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 4: let mister Gronkowsi go, Does anybody have a question back there?

3100
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:31,520
Speaker 4: They like to ask anybody feel free.

3101
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 1: I thought that guy in the middle would ask me

3102
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:35,039
Speaker 1: where I get my ivs from you? You know, we

3103
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 1: already brought it up where you guys get your ivs

3104
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:41,200
Speaker 1: from you in Nashville. So yeah, he does do a

3105
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 1: good job. You know. I don't want to give him

3106
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 1: the credit, but he's gonna yeah. See, and he does

3107
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 1: rehydrate you well. So these unbelievable nurses there that work

3108
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:54,200
Speaker 1: really hard, Yes, and they actually deserve all the credit,

3109
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:58,160
Speaker 1: all the women nurses that he has hired Errite in Nashville.

3110
02:16:58,160 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 1: They do get you hydrated and filled you up with

3111
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:01,400
Speaker 1: the best vitamins in the game.

3112
02:17:02,440 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 4: Those ners solid stuff.

3113
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. The nurses you run that company.

3114
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:07,560
Speaker 4: Run it, run it.

3115
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do.

3116
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:11,640
Speaker 3: Without the nurses all the work in the beginning, yeah

3117
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 3: started were started.

3118
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what we do. Appreciate me for the show.

3119
02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:17,800
Speaker 4: You were talking about giving us all free i VS

3120
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 4: for the next two months, So I appreciate you saying that.

3121
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:25,160
Speaker 3: I agree, and that is awesome.

3122
02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:25,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, sir.

3123
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 1: And if you're listening and you hear this. Just walk

3124
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:30,560
Speaker 1: in and say, I heard you're giving out free I

3125
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 1: V yeahs yes, on the ground episode free IV.

3126
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:40,200
Speaker 4: So that is big time. But you have to give

3127
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:41,040
Speaker 4: free unity.

3128
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 1: You have to give it. We're not saying any D.

3129
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,600
Speaker 1: A vitamin bag, the athlete bag you have to give

3130
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:46,440
Speaker 1: out if someone comes in.

3131
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 4: But you remember he was saying, you were saying that

3132
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:50,440
Speaker 4: he was giving all of us n A D for free.

3133
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah working yeah, yeah, but they can get if you

3134
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: hear that, you can get a vitamin bag.

3135
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, for free.

3136
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 1: We don't want to bankrupt.

3137
02:17:56,520 --> 02:18:00,480
Speaker 4: No, just a big bag, get in there, small back to.

3138
02:18:00,720 --> 02:18:06,760
Speaker 1: Ye small No small bag, big bagsfferent it's fluids five cents,

3139
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:08,800
Speaker 1: even though you get charged one hundred dollars.

3140
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 4: Gotta make a profit. Gotta make a profit.

3141
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:15,960
Speaker 3: Margins are healthy.

3142
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like ice cream, ice cream margins, ice cream margins.

3143
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:25,240
Speaker 1: Did you have a question, Hey, I gotta Yeah. When

3144
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:29,800
Speaker 1: when do ice cream companies make their most amount of money? Yeah?

3145
02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:30,520
Speaker 1: Like what month?

3146
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 4: July?

3147
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 1: June? See that's what you think. It's actually May. It's

3148
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:38,480
Speaker 1: like right when the weather blossoms. Because everyone wants to

3149
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 1: hurry up and get there. I heard they make all

3150
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 1: their money for the whole year. Yes, June and July

3151
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:45,320
Speaker 1: and August are great, but when it's truly packed, it's

3152
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 1: the first month that it just sun comes out. I

3153
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 1: learned that that's what That's what happened. That's crazy because

3154
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 1: everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather is nice outside,

3155
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:57,080
Speaker 1: how how bizoncres is it outside every.

3156
02:18:57,360 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 4: Wild the first week around?

3157
02:18:59,360 --> 02:19:01,360
Speaker 1: Later in the Sumer time you go out on Saturday,

3158
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, people like, oh, we've seen the sun

3159
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:06,160
Speaker 1: every single day now. Yeah, yeah, right, Everyone goes ape

3160
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:09,119
Speaker 1: ship when it's the first, you know, week of nice weather.

3161
02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:10,640
Speaker 1: Same with the ice cream world.

3162
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:12,359
Speaker 4: When it comes to comes to ice I don't discriminate

3163
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 4: on weather. I'll take down ice cream in the middle

3164
02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:16,600
Speaker 4: of January. I love that stuff.

3165
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:17,200
Speaker 3: Love it.

3166
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:22,359
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jackie was the Steve Harvey Lego head spike scripted.

3167
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:25,600
Speaker 1: Damn, damn, that's a good question, and everyone wants to

3168
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 1: know that. Actually, it's still talked about to this day.

3169
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 1: That was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting

3170
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:33,520
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve on Fox and I spiked Steve Harvey

3171
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:36,200
Speaker 1: Lego set of of his head, of his face. But

3172
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:40,039
Speaker 1: what was scripted was that I was gonna spike it.

3173
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:41,959
Speaker 1: Like I knew I was spiking it. They had me

3174
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:45,200
Speaker 1: in the script. Hey, Grink, you're gonna spike the Steve

3175
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 1: leg uh, Steve Harvey legos, not Steve Harvey. Steve, my

3176
02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:53,520
Speaker 1: names are all over the place, Steve. You're right, Steve Harvey.

3177
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting him confused with another Steve, I know. But

3178
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,800
Speaker 1: the Steve Harvey lego said, hey, you're gonna spike it.

3179
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:03,600
Speaker 1: So when I spiked it, that was kind of you know, understood, understood,

3180
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:08,119
Speaker 1: that was kind of But his reaction was not scripted

3181
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:11,240
Speaker 1: at all. And I'm not sure either if he knew

3182
02:20:11,280 --> 02:20:14,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna spike it or not. I knew I

3183
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:16,119
Speaker 1: was going to from the beginning. I'm not sure if

3184
02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:19,080
Speaker 1: he knew. But his reaction was priceless, man, Like it

3185
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 1: felt like he was truly pissed. If he truly was, But.

3186
02:20:22,760 --> 02:20:25,400
Speaker 3: How was how was the dynamic after? It was fine

3187
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:26,360
Speaker 3: around him and.

3188
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,840
Speaker 1: He didn't bring it up after, Like it was like

3189
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:31,360
Speaker 1: he was like, nice spike, but like he wasn't like

3190
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:34,400
Speaker 1: out the screen, like why the fuck did you do that? No? No,

3191
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 1: like he acted like that like when it happened. I mean,

3192
02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 1: he kind of got me scared. I was like, oh shit, like,

3193
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:42,879
Speaker 1: was I really supposed to do that or not? Like

3194
02:20:42,959 --> 02:20:46,360
Speaker 1: he's pissed. But it was good. It was TV. It

3195
02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:48,720
Speaker 1: was one of my best movements, one of my best

3196
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:50,760
Speaker 1: moments on TV of all time.

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Speaker 4: I love it, boys, We feel good.

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Speaker 1: Any other questions back there, I know, but I don't

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Speaker 1: like telling anyone that scripted because everyone truly believes it

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Speaker 1: was like right on the spot, like I decided.

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Speaker 4: Dude, Steve sells it. He sells it big time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he sold that good. So yeah, it was scripted,

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of It was unscripted, scripted.

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Speaker 4: Unscripted scripted. Let's give Rob around with pause.

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Speaker 3: Boys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you the prevant on the bus.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having bossing with the boys. That's

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Speaker 1: what's up man, Thank you. Yes, FanDuel is the best man.

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Speaker 4: This fall is going to be awesome. I can't wait

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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big hugs, he kisses.

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