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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Thursday,
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Speaker 1: the Boys. There's a live look at Tostitos Championship Plaza
Speaker 1: out front of Ford Center. At the start, it is
Speaker 1: a brisk forty three degrees. It feels like thirty eight degrees.
Speaker 1: High today is going to be forty one. The low
Speaker 1: tonight is gonna be thirty five. And that ain't the
Speaker 1: only thing that's cold, because my co hosts are cold too.
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Nate new Kurt Daniels, How you fellas do it?
Speaker 1: It's been a week. How's it going, y'all? I'm good
Speaker 1: A right, So I got to start the show off.
Speaker 1: I got both teams wrong that are going to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I had Green Bay and Buffalo. Did anybody
Speaker 1: get it right? I don't know. I had packers in chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think the rest of us all had the packers
Speaker 1: in chief I think we all have packers in chiefs.
Speaker 1: Nobody had it. And then poor old Connor McGregor just
Speaker 1: got beat down this weekend. I mean, he got man
Speaker 1: handled by what happened on he kicked. What happened He
Speaker 1: kicked him in the calf and apparently wound up breaking
Speaker 1: his breaking his leg. But he kicked. There's a there's
Speaker 1: a nerve in your calf that's really close to the
Speaker 1: surface of your skin, and he his game plan was
Speaker 1: to attack his legs. He kicked him in the calf.
Speaker 1: He he didn't start checking his kicks until it was
Speaker 1: too late, and that nerve acted up on him and
Speaker 1: basically his leg was dead by the second round and
Speaker 1: he got knocked out because he couldn't couldn't put weight
Speaker 1: on his legs. But it was it was a good
Speaker 1: fight card. It was a good fight card. But he man,
Speaker 1: he's like and he like, he's like four and four
Speaker 1: or something. Now, I mean, is this so the end
Speaker 1: of couldn't I mean, he looked really good at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the fight until his legs got taken out
Speaker 1: out from under him, and then he did not his
Speaker 1: legs out, you know what, out quick quickly. He's one
Speaker 1: of those guys though love him or hate him, and
Speaker 1: he's like Tiger Woods. The game is better when he's
Speaker 1: in it. So I hope, I hope he gets it
Speaker 1: back on track because it's the sport is so much
Speaker 1: more fun to watch when he's in it. But enough
Speaker 1: of that Mma stuff. We got football to talk about.
Speaker 1: Man so much better as Nate. You look cozy, you know,
Speaker 1: I just I You know, I've been to North Carolina,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. I've been to uh Florida twice. I've been
Speaker 1: on Tennessee. My wife got mad, you know, at me
Speaker 1: the other day so much. You really was secere about
Speaker 1: how you was gonna travel. So now me and herd
Speaker 1: an impass right now. I need a mediator because I'm
Speaker 1: to take off mix. I need a mediator because I'm gone.
Speaker 1: Where are you going next week? Who cares? Who? Oh? Jesse, Jesse,
Speaker 1: what have you been up to this last week? I've
Speaker 1: been working like a dog man. Yeah, I got all
Speaker 1: these basketb wearing like in the heart of the basketball season.
Speaker 1: So I got middle school, elementary, high school, college games
Speaker 1: all happening, all my campuses and scheduling buses. I can't
Speaker 1: we can't find th bus drivers, and so I have
Speaker 1: to rent fifteenth passenger vans, which there aren't for some reason,
Speaker 1: there aren't any fifteen passenger vans in Dallas Fort Worth
Speaker 1: because the National Guard has them all. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's been my life from the last week. I've
Speaker 1: just been at the varsity team Territor though. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: as your basketball players, have the legs been going out
Speaker 1: in the first quarter? They actually they have. Hey, Jesse,
Speaker 1: they really You got a guy on this show that
Speaker 1: that loves to drive. I mean, Nate, you should get
Speaker 1: your CDL and start aside hust There you go. But
Speaker 1: if you promised me they're gonna least go one thousand
Speaker 1: miles from the end. We gotta go. We gotta go
Speaker 1: to wait tomorrow. So hey, that that's the minimum driving it.
Speaker 1: I'll drive like six hundred miles one day, six hundred
Speaker 1: miles and next day didn't turn around and come straight back.
Speaker 1: Don't stop at is unbelievable, unbelievable, Kurt, what have you
Speaker 1: been up to the last week. Oh, nothing too exciting.
Speaker 1: No no basketball or traveling, just working on hanging out.
Speaker 1: The country is so much big, I just had to visualize.
Speaker 1: You guys, there's Kirt in this corner. There's just in
Speaker 1: this corner. Is pretty hair in this corner? Pretty hair.
Speaker 1: I went from the beard, the beard, and the big
Speaker 1: head to the pretty hair. I'll take it. I'll take
Speaker 1: it all right. You know what is going on this week?
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is scheduled. That Senior Bowl is going on
Speaker 1: this week and the game is this weekend. How big
Speaker 1: of a deal is it that teams are going to
Speaker 1: be limited in their ability to talk to the players
Speaker 1: and see them both during the Senior Bowl throughout the
Speaker 1: off season, no scouting combine, no visits, and more limited contact.
Speaker 1: Is that a big deal for the Senior Bowl? I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a big deal for the combine, interviews,
Speaker 1: things like that. Is the Senior Bowl really that big
Speaker 1: of a deal, Nate, you've been Is that gonna hinder
Speaker 1: a team as it is? Yes, it is, especially for
Speaker 1: the teams that didn't have such good records, you know,
Speaker 1: and there they have that possibility of seeing these players
Speaker 1: up close. I know a team that I'm really familiar
Speaker 1: with that didn't have a good But I don't even
Speaker 1: think they did it the same way this year. I
Speaker 1: gotta ask Chris Bean because normally the teams that don't
Speaker 1: have the better records gets these guys. I don't know,
Speaker 1: since I'm not a part of it, I kind of
Speaker 1: backed up off of. But these players are a lot
Speaker 1: of great players go to the Senior Bowl. I used
Speaker 1: to kind of downplay the Senior Bowl eight nineteen years ago,
Speaker 1: but when I started going and seeing guys, seeing guys
Speaker 1: that went to the Senior Bowl and have made their name,
Speaker 1: now you know, you know battles that have been there,
Speaker 1: Guys that went from third fourth round picks unto the
Speaker 1: Lord's first in high second round. This thing is big,
Speaker 1: and now it's going to test I think the ability
Speaker 1: for scouts to really trust their film in their eyes
Speaker 1: on that film, can and can they pick these players
Speaker 1: out for their teams. And we won't know, like anything
Speaker 1: else into a couple of years from now. But the
Speaker 1: teams that know who they want, know who they are,
Speaker 1: not detact players they want, you know, and they don't.
Speaker 1: They're not confused about who they are and what they're
Speaker 1: trying to be in their identity offensive defense. These are
Speaker 1: the guys that were prosper I think that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of my question. It sounds like each team can send
Speaker 1: up to ten ten scouts or personnel, so hopefully they'll
Speaker 1: be you know, guys like Will McClay and his crew
Speaker 1: will be there. Maybe not the head coaches and maybe
Speaker 1: not some of these systems that sort of thing. But
Speaker 1: does it with the way the video works now, does
Speaker 1: it make that bigger difference? I mean, what's the advantages?
Speaker 1: I guess the advantage is send you said it, Kurt,
Speaker 1: Send the right guys, Send the scouts, Let the coaches,
Speaker 1: let especially new defensive coordinator and past coordinator. Let these
Speaker 1: guys have a large say in what we're trying to
Speaker 1: do here. Let them try to get over to Will
Speaker 1: McClay and his guys what we're looking for, and let
Speaker 1: them go out and try to find these guys. Because
Speaker 1: with your picks this year, be an offensively a defensively,
Speaker 1: you got to impact this team. And so I think
Speaker 1: I think this is a good bad thing, bad thing
Speaker 1: that you can't have a full a ray of people there,
Speaker 1: but a good thing and just letting the scouts go.
Speaker 1: So when we sit in the war room on draft day,
Speaker 1: we can say, hey, will such and such assistance to this?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Not what do the coach think?
Speaker 1: Because the last few years what the coaches thought has
Speaker 1: not been good. How do you Jessee this? You can
Speaker 1: speak to this because you've you've been on tryouts before
Speaker 1: and obviously there's value to it. Or teams wouldn't bring
Speaker 1: guys in to try them out. They would do all
Speaker 1: this stuff virtually. They would time them, get them to
Speaker 1: run drills, do it through video. How much value is
Speaker 1: there to seeing a guy in person? What are you
Speaker 1: looking at in person when you see them? And and
Speaker 1: Nate you can speak to that because you've been to
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You can give your thoughts on you
Speaker 1: know what the value is to seeing a guy alive?
Speaker 1: But Jesse from a workout standpoint, yeah, I've been in
Speaker 1: that situation as a player too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely on
Speaker 1: that stage. What's what's the advantage to that? It's well, one,
Speaker 1: when you have a workout, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys, you know your smaller amount of numbers, you
Speaker 1: can really get detailed. You can really find out who
Speaker 1: the person is That's why those conversations are so critical.
Speaker 1: You can really see who a person is by talking
Speaker 1: to them and having those conversations, being able to put
Speaker 1: players through the kind of workouts that you want to
Speaker 1: see because every coach and every scout is looking for
Speaker 1: a particular type of player or players and the difference
Speaker 1: between you know, seeing them at a combine or at
Speaker 1: a senior bowl compared to having him in the building.
Speaker 1: I get to put my hands on them, I get
Speaker 1: to put them with the drift that I want them
Speaker 1: to see because I have a plan in my head
Speaker 1: for where they're going to fit at in our grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things. So it's just being able to have
Speaker 1: that close encounter. The conversations you put them, you get
Speaker 1: sometimes you get put to the fire just to see
Speaker 1: how you're going to react. Like you're like, they want
Speaker 1: to see how is this guy going to react in
Speaker 1: this condensed time frame. But we're gonna put him to
Speaker 1: the fire if if he gives us the look that
Speaker 1: we want, the response that we want, then you know
Speaker 1: it really is It really pays dividends when you're trying
Speaker 1: to pick between player A, player B, and player C.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the biggest thing missing then is not
Speaker 1: necess sarahly a Senior Bowl combine whatever, but those private visits. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then another thing and I don't know how much
Speaker 1: they can get into it on a private visit. More
Speaker 1: is what they do in the Senior Bowl and how
Speaker 1: they does at the thing Indiapolis is their trainers get
Speaker 1: a chance to put their medals. They get to look
Speaker 1: at your medicals. And that is the scary thing because
Speaker 1: every year we hear we didn't know this guy had
Speaker 1: this right here. We didn't know this guy had this
Speaker 1: right here. Wow, we x raate this and we got
Speaker 1: we talked it says such, wow, this thing is bigger
Speaker 1: than we thought. Are smaller than we thought. Uh. This
Speaker 1: is where a lot of players, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: get their first red flag where they where there's it's
Speaker 1: a flag step by their name, like we ain't touching
Speaker 1: this guy in the story, and a lot of guys
Speaker 1: get a chance said okay, well we're gonna touch this guy.
Speaker 1: And this flag makes semi stay there come off. So
Speaker 1: that is I think that's the biggest thing. What is
Speaker 1: so when mister Jones or Will said, hey man, what
Speaker 1: about this need we heard about it in colle He said, man,
Speaker 1: that's bone on bone. If you signed this guy better
Speaker 1: be late and we better get a wave on this kid.
Speaker 1: You know you're making the visions decisions like that. Also, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with obviously the Cowboys have to improve this defense, are
Speaker 1: they Are they add any kind of disadvantage because Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn is joining the party late here. It just depends
Speaker 1: on where they're gonna go with it. I mean, are
Speaker 1: you gonna for the first time in a long time,
Speaker 1: get into some quality, quality veterans in the free agent market?
Speaker 1: Are you going to lie solely on the draft, which
Speaker 1: you won't be really where you're drafting that you can
Speaker 1: get a good player for that value, But how do
Speaker 1: you handle the second and third round? More importantly, what
Speaker 1: coach Quinn got to figure out quickly is how good
Speaker 1: is Neville? How good he think Neville is, How good
Speaker 1: it is Tristan Hill coming off the injury? Is antoine
Speaker 1: Wood that thirty play are less or more? And once
Speaker 1: he figured that out, and once he get a good
Speaker 1: look at film with these guys, now he can really
Speaker 1: put his hands on his team for us. How he
Speaker 1: want to do his uh, his his d line and linebackers.
Speaker 1: So at this point, are the scouts just looking at
Speaker 1: everybody and then they'll narrow it down to what dan
Speaker 1: Quinn wants later or they already you know, they have
Speaker 1: a game plan. They have a section of guys, like
Speaker 1: two guys will be on running backs, two guys will
Speaker 1: be on defensive backs. One guy may be on on
Speaker 1: tight ends, two guys may be on linebackers. You know,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be somebody at that Chris will tell
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be somebody on the defensive offensive line,
Speaker 1: a skilled position. They're gonna pop out at you. Who
Speaker 1: who you'd even think they're gonna boom like Navel Gallimore
Speaker 1: And I'm maybe messing his kid's name, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He hasn't deserve a nickname good or bad yet They
Speaker 1: the belly button. Yeah, but see I just yes, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you, Shannon, And I remember that, uh the navel. Okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when you when you looking at this team, man, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at this team, you know it has only
Speaker 1: one issue. So but I think, yes, sir, it's a
Speaker 1: defensive issue they have. It's a defensive issue with eleven
Speaker 1: one issue with eleven parts, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Like
Speaker 1: you got a bad hand. It's some digits on that
Speaker 1: hand that's bested up. You know what, Jesse to talk,
Speaker 1: you were fine. You know what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: There was all off when you just said what we like,
Speaker 1: wait but one pide of the ball now continue, but
Speaker 1: you do it. You just had a school were like,
Speaker 1: wait a second. The thing is you go there with
Speaker 1: a game plan. They have a game plan, they know
Speaker 1: what the issue is and so, but you can't allocate
Speaker 1: all of that because it may be a great offensive
Speaker 1: player to see. You know, I'm gonna continue to preach
Speaker 1: defense because I know that get helps you get to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But it may be some offensive players
Speaker 1: that just as the first round pick that may just
Speaker 1: dominate this situation that they feel. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna feel that this year, but they may feel like,
Speaker 1: my wow, poor this this dude failed from from from
Speaker 1: from number five all the way to us. We say
Speaker 1: it couldn't happen, but we had to receive a fall
Speaker 1: from like eight to nine all the way to you
Speaker 1: know to us last year. So I'm not saying what
Speaker 1: can happen, but we know at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and and and coach No at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he has to have an impact on his defense to
Speaker 1: least slow down the run. All right, I'm gonna do something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to break really early because the next segment. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Jesse's gonna talk a lot
Speaker 1: this next segment because something I want to bring up. Okay,
Speaker 1: and thank you Kurt for this idea, because this is really,
Speaker 1: when you think about it, this we need to talk
Speaker 1: about this. Adam Schefter feels like there could be more
Speaker 1: than eighteen teams with new quarterbacks next season, and there
Speaker 1: are some big names on this list. We don't we
Speaker 1: have a we have a quarterback. We have a quarterback
Speaker 1: position that needs to be filled on this team that
Speaker 1: currently is filled by Dak Prescott that you haven't been
Speaker 1: able to get a deal done. And I think some
Speaker 1: people are starting to question, are you gonna get a
Speaker 1: deal done if you're franchising again. I think we all
Speaker 1: feel like that's his last year here, right, So if
Speaker 1: you're renting a guy for one year, would you go
Speaker 1: after some of these big names. Let's get into some
Speaker 1: of these big names. Let's talk about this. I have
Speaker 1: a feel it's going to be a long conversation. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to break early when we come back. By
Speaker 1: the way, Chris Beam, let me know, the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Panthers coaching staffs are at the Senior Bowl. All
Speaker 1: the other teams are just able to send their scouts,
Speaker 1: so it's Cowboys scouting staff there. So when we come back,
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Speaker 1: They're going to be about eighteen quarterbacks with new teams.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read off some of the names that could
Speaker 1: possibly be available or will be available. Watson, Stafford, Newton, Dalton, Rogers, Darnold, Wentz,
Speaker 1: golf Garoppolo Dalton. So the question is if you can't
Speaker 1: get Dak signed by the March ninth franchise deadline, and
Speaker 1: it looks like you're gonna have to franchise him again,
Speaker 1: which we all agree that if that happens, he's gone
Speaker 1: after that year anyway, So you basically have a quarterback
Speaker 1: on a one year deal if you can't get the
Speaker 1: deal done for whatever reason, because you know, I think
Speaker 1: we all think you got it. You need to get
Speaker 1: the deal done. But if they can't figure it out,
Speaker 1: can't get the deal done, do you just do you
Speaker 1: go after one of these other hired guns for a
Speaker 1: short term contract and push all in and try to
Speaker 1: get it done now, or do you start building for
Speaker 1: the future. I'm really of having this conversation, like I
Speaker 1: really wish you would just sign the guy. And I
Speaker 1: know y'all are tired about talking about it too, but
Speaker 1: we you have to talk about it, right because the
Speaker 1: deal's not done, so it's it's still out there, so
Speaker 1: we have to talk about it. So let's just say
Speaker 1: hypothetically that happens. What would you guys? Do you know?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm leaning more and more that if they don't
Speaker 1: have him signed by March ninth, they go a different directions.
Speaker 1: Just you've had you've had two years, who you've been
Speaker 1: talking to, Kurt, who you've been talking to in the organization,
Speaker 1: they just go you know, I don't know, just stuff
Speaker 1: I'm reading, and it's just it can't seem to get
Speaker 1: it done that. You know, Cowboys seem to want five
Speaker 1: year deal. Dak Prescott once more of a four year deal.
Speaker 1: All the all the most recent deals done other than
Speaker 1: Mahomes which is ten years, but all the more four right,
Speaker 1: You're all four year deals. So yeah, so the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are for some reason stuck on this five year thing,
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure in this day and age makes
Speaker 1: sense anymore. So, you know, if they can't reach agreement
Speaker 1: here in the next two or three months after having
Speaker 1: to deal with this for the last two years, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna Why? Why continue? I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no way they can sign him. They can franchise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, if they have to play on another franchise,
Speaker 1: they'll never bring him back. It'd be like fifty four
Speaker 1: million dollar deal or something like your annally, which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I just don't know at this point now, I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure how they go about replacing him. You know,
Speaker 1: do they have the assets to make some trades and
Speaker 1: get somebody like a Stafford or even a Watson that
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about. But man, it's just just
Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it happening if it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen by March nine. Let me let me ask
Speaker 1: it this way, Jesse. Would it on a level from
Speaker 1: one to ten? One being super surprised, ten being not
Speaker 1: surprised at all. How surprised would you be if just
Speaker 1: out of the blue, once you know, free agency opens up,
Speaker 1: that they just sign a guy out of the blue
Speaker 1: level of one to ten a quarterback? Yes? Six? Really? Wow?
Speaker 1: What about you, Kurt? You're just scrolling through Twitter in
Speaker 1: the morning when you get up, there's no talk about
Speaker 1: contracts or anything, and they just you read cowboys cowboys
Speaker 1: rumored to be in the talks for whoever. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: be pretty surprised, I guess. And you know, part of
Speaker 1: the problem is most of the really good quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: with other teams. I mean, Deshaun Watson, Stafford. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've even heard Aaron Rodgers is one out. You know,
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. So it takes some creativity if they just
Speaker 1: sign quarterbacks and you just named a bad quarterback, well, well,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the true free agent quarterbacks
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're Andy Dalton's. You know, they'll
Speaker 1: get you buy but um, not necessarily the superstars. Maybe
Speaker 1: you want to build around. So yeah, yeah, because there
Speaker 1: isn't there isn't a quarterback that's available. Yeah, free agency wise,
Speaker 1: that's better than Dak Prescott, not one. Every other quarterback
Speaker 1: that's available will cost you a haul of some sort
Speaker 1: rather that second round picks. Deshaun Watson gonna cost you
Speaker 1: a couple first round picks. Okay, he's not getting out
Speaker 1: of Houston just by you know, even even Matthew Stafford's
Speaker 1: gonna cost you possibly two seconds and a third, which
Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense to me. Now I get it.
Speaker 1: I would I would say jo Shaun Watson is slightly
Speaker 1: better than Dak Prescott, but it's not light gears better
Speaker 1: than Dak Prescott. So even to entertain the thought, Now,
Speaker 1: let's just entertain the thought of a guy like Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: because I put him at the top of this list
Speaker 1: with years as far as his age, his ability. To
Speaker 1: get a guy like Deshaun Watson, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: give up maybe two first rounders this year is the
Speaker 1: next year's maybe more. But let's just say two first rounders,
Speaker 1: So you give away two huge assets. Then you have
Speaker 1: to turn around and work on well, how long is
Speaker 1: it going to take for Deshaun to learn this offense,
Speaker 1: to become cohesive and have the rhythm with these players offensively. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, we gave away our first round pick,
Speaker 1: so we don't have a first round pick, so we
Speaker 1: gotta probably try to either muster up some other picks
Speaker 1: to try to move back in the first round. So
Speaker 1: we probably would only have a first round pick or
Speaker 1: a bunch of low level draft picks, which means we
Speaker 1: don't get much of an impactful player in this year's
Speaker 1: driving maybe next year's drift. So I still haven't addressed
Speaker 1: my defensive situation right, So now the Shaun Watson goes
Speaker 1: from having the same situation he had in Houston slightly
Speaker 1: better here because he has more better offensive weapons. But
Speaker 1: again you'll find yourself losing those games forty five to forty.
Speaker 1: And then the most important thing is Deshaun Watson is
Speaker 1: in that group who just signed a deal, and while
Speaker 1: his was an extension for us, it'll just be a
Speaker 1: new four year deal for one hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 1: million dollars, so somewhere around forty million dollars again, So
Speaker 1: in essence, you're still gonna have to pay the four
Speaker 1: years forty million dollars a year. So why give up
Speaker 1: all of those assets. Why try to create new continuity
Speaker 1: when you can just swallow your pride except that you
Speaker 1: lost this battle that you've been trying to do for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Paid back to forty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year, and let's get this train moving in
Speaker 1: the direction to win. There is no other options on
Speaker 1: the table. Even if you try to go get Aaron
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers at his age, it's going to take a
Speaker 1: haul to go get him, and you're gonna find yourself
Speaker 1: in a situation where you're gonna you're gonna actually give
Speaker 1: up more than you can actually replace. And Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is a guy who doesn't have as many as years
Speaker 1: left in his football life, then Dak Prescott does so
Speaker 1: any same thing with Matthew Stafford. These are guys who
Speaker 1: maybe have good two three years at the top of
Speaker 1: their at the top of their at the top of
Speaker 1: their game. Dak has at least another eight eight years
Speaker 1: where he's at the top of his game, before he
Speaker 1: gets that thirty three thirty two, thirty three thirty four
Speaker 1: year old Mark. I just I don't understand this situation
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. It really blows my mind, and
Speaker 1: my mind boggle at the decision to wait. To everyone's point,
Speaker 1: you've had two years. The numbers are only going to
Speaker 1: get worse for you, and God forbid if Josh Allen
Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson jump in front of you and get
Speaker 1: signed before Dak does. Now your numbers are really solidified,
Speaker 1: and it may cost you an even more than what
Speaker 1: it originally cost you at the forty million dollars. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're trying to prove. I don't
Speaker 1: know what their plan is, but any plan outside of
Speaker 1: signing Dak Prescott or getting Patrick Mahomes is a plan
Speaker 1: that is going to fail them. And we're going to
Speaker 1: find ourselves right back in this situation and the next
Speaker 1: year or two of looking for a quarterback and probably
Speaker 1: looking for another head coach. Hmm, Wow, they got anything
Speaker 1: on that that you know you're talking about? You know
Speaker 1: you have to wonder. I mean, as I was looking
Speaker 1: through this, they've already got seven players on their roster.
Speaker 1: Those seven makeup fifty seven percent of this pary cap.
Speaker 1: When you're talking to Marcus Laurance, Samari Cooper, Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, zeke Lyle Collins, Jalen Smith, and you look
Speaker 1: at those seven and you wonder how many of those
Speaker 1: were mistakes. You know, a lot of those guys have
Speaker 1: just mentioned aren't earning their money, and so in some
Speaker 1: ways the Cowboys have put the Cells in a position
Speaker 1: where they can't afford Dak, or maybe they're having trouble
Speaker 1: justifying paying Dack this much money because Dad's going to
Speaker 1: be what fifteen percent or so of the salary cab
Speaker 1: just on his own, if not more. But they put
Speaker 1: the Cells in such a bad position with these other
Speaker 1: deals and now they can't really focus on getting Dack done.
Speaker 1: Plus then having anything, you know, you'd have sixty sent
Speaker 1: of your roster taken up with eight players and you're
Speaker 1: trying to build a championship team and a defense with
Speaker 1: very little to work with. It seems like again the
Speaker 1: Cowboys gambled and they lost. And all the name that
Speaker 1: you name that make up the seven percent of the
Speaker 1: salary cap, none of them are more important than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: So I'm to the point where we know that this
Speaker 1: is a quarterback driven league, right the teams who have
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks majority of the time win the most
Speaker 1: games and find themselves in the position. You know, now
Speaker 1: you need other factors involved, but the teams who have
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks usually find themselves in the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: Game or NFC Championship Game and Super Bowls. None of
Speaker 1: the players that you name were better than Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: or more important than Dak Prescott. And there are a
Speaker 1: couple that you know. I go back to the Zeke signing,
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not a post I'm not a
Speaker 1: part of the don't sign running backs game. But Zeke
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the finishing pieces for the Tony
Speaker 1: Romo era. He was supposed to be that last piece
Speaker 1: that live solid running game for Tony Romo. And it
Speaker 1: didn't work out because Tony got hurt. And then you know,
Speaker 1: dakamerge and so you got caught up in that situation
Speaker 1: with him, and you didn't quite know what Dak was
Speaker 1: going to be. I thought, if someone could could have
Speaker 1: looked at the crystal ball and said Dak was going
Speaker 1: to be what he was now they might have let
Speaker 1: Zeke walk. Oh you want to hold out, fine, hold out,
Speaker 1: We're not going to pay you anything. But because they
Speaker 1: didn't know and Dak could he carry a football team,
Speaker 1: then they had to trust that Zeke would be able
Speaker 1: to carry this football team, and early on in his
Speaker 1: career he definitely did. But Dak has emerged as that guy.
Speaker 1: So as as an ownership group, now you have to
Speaker 1: go on there and say, what do we have to
Speaker 1: do to free up some of this money? And I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't buy the salary cap situation stuff that we
Speaker 1: always talk about because we know and we've seen it
Speaker 1: time after time after time again, the Cowboys being able
Speaker 1: to move these contracts, make money available, make guarantees them
Speaker 1: hit switches. A lot of these players have the switches
Speaker 1: in their contract when they could hit it, hit a number,
Speaker 1: and now that becomes bonus money or whatever it maybe.
Speaker 1: And now you're able to free up some more cash
Speaker 1: to pay a guy like Dak Prescott. So I'm never
Speaker 1: I'm never. I'm never moved by Well, the callery cap
Speaker 1: has this and we don't know what the salary cap
Speaker 1: is going to be this upcoming season. The Cowboys always
Speaker 1: find a way. They always make a way that they're
Speaker 1: doing themselves in this team a disservice because if I'm Dak.
Speaker 1: If I'm Dak, I don't know when he's clear to
Speaker 1: come back for workouts and stuff like that, but I'm
Speaker 1: not coming back to this. I'm not coming back to
Speaker 1: this building and being a part of any of your
Speaker 1: off season workouts until I get the contract that I've
Speaker 1: been asking for for the last two years. Kind of
Speaker 1: how do you think this is? How do you think
Speaker 1: this is affecting not just the current players on the roster,
Speaker 1: but maybe any potential free agents. Is this just a
Speaker 1: domino effect with everybody? Nate, No, Yeah, he was talking
Speaker 1: to you, just he was talking about whoever, whoever. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the room here, or maybe I'm just talking
Speaker 1: to this brick wall in front of me. Not sure.
Speaker 1: I just feel at any moment they're gonna say on
Speaker 1: our flagship station, Dak has been signed. Because anything else
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into ABYSS. This team is gonna be
Speaker 1: through and so we can sit here and play all
Speaker 1: day long. What Jesse said, if we go out and
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, now, you're gonna to make a mad
Speaker 1: scramble in free agency to go out and get some
Speaker 1: dominant defensive players to turn this thing around. Are you
Speaker 1: willing to do it? In any quarterback sign here that's
Speaker 1: worth is salt. Yeah, you may get it for twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty meal, but you're going to take all that
Speaker 1: extra money and place it until some free agent. We
Speaker 1: haven't shown that we want to do that. So if
Speaker 1: Dak doesn't sign, who is the quarterback? A guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna be here two years, then we go into a
Speaker 1: one in sixteen, I mean a one in fifteen, three
Speaker 1: and thirteen. Now we're sitting here again saying, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: this is how we build a team and pre that
Speaker 1: we get another quarterback. To me, that's scary, man. When
Speaker 1: you brought it up and I'm like, wow, man, we
Speaker 1: we we really here? Are we really here? Nah? Man?
Speaker 1: It will make no sense. I hope not. I hope not.
Speaker 1: All right, fellas, I was fortunate enough yesterday to talk
Speaker 1: to Jamie O. Pelt, which is up for a nomination
Speaker 1: for Fords Hall of Fame Fans, which they've they've started
Speaker 1: this about. I think this is the third year where
Speaker 1: a fan actually gets elected into the Hall of Pro
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame in Canton. Jamie is a finalist.
Speaker 1: There are I believe six finalists. He's for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: There's one for the Cardinals, one for the Steelers, one
Speaker 1: for the Browns, one for the Ravens, and one other team.
Speaker 1: But I was able to catch up with him yesterday
Speaker 1: day did a little bit of an interview that Chris
Speaker 1: is gonna air here in a second talking about how
Speaker 1: he found out about the nomination, how they let him
Speaker 1: know why he's deserving of this pretty cool piece. It's
Speaker 1: about six minutes long. So if you need to go
Speaker 1: to the restroom, if you need to go get a donut,
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do, don't do it right now.
Speaker 1: Unless you're a co host on the show. Then you
Speaker 1: have probably the next ten minutes to go do something
Speaker 1: and relax. So everybody else stay tuned. Chris is going
Speaker 1: to roll the interview and then we'll be back in
Speaker 1: the next segment. After that, there's a lot to get
Speaker 1: to In the last segment, you don't want to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't know what direction we're gonna go in because
Speaker 1: there's so much we can talk free agents, we can
Speaker 1: talk about, there's a lot of anniversaries that are going
Speaker 1: on today. There's a former Cowboys player that's deciding to
Speaker 1: call it quits. We don't know where we're gonna go,
Speaker 1: but watch this, enjoy it, and we'll be back in
Speaker 1: the third segment after the interview. Welcome to a very
Speaker 1: special sub segment of Hanging with the Boys today. I
Speaker 1: am Shannon Gross, host of Hanging with the Boys, along
Speaker 1: with Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and I have
Speaker 1: a very special guest that is going to join me
Speaker 1: right now. It is Jamie Opelt. He is the Ford
Speaker 1: Hall of Fans nominee for the Dallas Cowboys. The Ford
Speaker 1: Hall of Fans was created in partnership with Ford and
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and they search for
Speaker 1: the most passionate NFL super fans across the country that
Speaker 1: are also doing heroic work within the community. Jamie is
Speaker 1: one of six nominees left. One of these fans will
Speaker 1: be nominated and inducted into the Ford Hall of Fans
Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio. He's representing the Cowboys. There's a representative
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, the Ravens, the Browns, the Railers, Raiders,
Speaker 1: and the Steelers. So Jamie, Welcome to the show. First off,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. Hey, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: having me. Shannon, It's great to be here. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys having me absolutely well. Tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about how this came about. How did you become our nominee?
Speaker 1: So back in October it started with me. Actually, I
Speaker 1: got to be completely honest with you. I'd never heard
Speaker 1: of the Ford Hall of Fans and it's been going
Speaker 1: on for three years, this is the third year. And
Speaker 1: was watching TV and actually saw an advertisement for you
Speaker 1: submitting your name or submitting a nominee for someone else,
Speaker 1: and I had about a year ago, I completed my
Speaker 1: hot ride, I've done some other things. I've got a
Speaker 1: media room, and I've got a shop that's all done
Speaker 1: in Cowboys. I've been a huge Cowboys fan since I
Speaker 1: was about seven years old. And and just on the
Speaker 1: way m I kind of presented the information that I
Speaker 1: had through through the form that they had online and
Speaker 1: then honestly forgot about it. And then about four weeks
Speaker 1: later actually got my first contact by them and they
Speaker 1: said that they'd like to move forward. They said that
Speaker 1: there's some documents that they needed to sign as far
Speaker 1: as background checks in those types of things, and then
Speaker 1: from that point on it progressed that my next conversation
Speaker 1: with them was actually them telling me that, hey, we're
Speaker 1: down to about two hundred nominees, were very interested in you.
Speaker 1: We'd like to come out and send a film crew
Speaker 1: just to do a kind of a highlight reel of
Speaker 1: everything that you have as a fan into a small interview. Well,
Speaker 1: so I said that was fine. That was going to
Speaker 1: be the week after Thanksgiving, and they showed up to
Speaker 1: do this, and lo and behold, in the middle of
Speaker 1: this interview that I thought that they were doing many
Speaker 1: of with other cowboy fans, a knock came on the door,
Speaker 1: and that happened to be the manster Randy White, with
Speaker 1: the vice president of the Hall of Fame, the Professional
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, George Varies, and they Randy White
Speaker 1: came in and proceeded to announced that I was one
Speaker 1: of six nominees for this year's for Hall of Fans.
Speaker 1: That in itself is pretty cool. Randy White coming to
Speaker 1: your house and knocking on your door. That's that was
Speaker 1: my childhood football hero. He was on many posters in
Speaker 1: my bedroom, uh on the walls there so that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So what made you stand out as as
Speaker 1: our nominee? What? What? What do you think calls forward
Speaker 1: to to pick you? What? Are you just a crazy
Speaker 1: over the top fan or what? Well? So, I you know,
Speaker 1: I think you have to be a Cowboys fan nowadays
Speaker 1: you have to be a little bit crazy. But I
Speaker 1: think the fact that I followed them, uh, you know
Speaker 1: since I was seven years old. Uh, I remember some
Speaker 1: good times. I remember some bad times. You know. I've
Speaker 1: told the story that I remember when a local store
Speaker 1: had to step in and actually buy tickets so that
Speaker 1: we would be able to watch the game on Sundays.
Speaker 1: And uh, and then there were also times to where
Speaker 1: there was talk about there not being any Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: when we talk about having bad seasons, I've seen a
Speaker 1: couple of those. And and and the seasons like we just
Speaker 1: went through, you know, h it didn't turn out the
Speaker 1: way we wanted it too. But uh but it's I'll
Speaker 1: take it. I'll take it, and you have so I
Speaker 1: had it go ahead. I'm sorry thought you were three.
Speaker 1: Uh So uh with that though, I've done you know,
Speaker 1: throughout the year. I'm a very visual person. So anytime
Speaker 1: I start a project, I have to have something that
Speaker 1: guides me through it. And so my wife and I
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, we actually did a media room
Speaker 1: and I did it all in Cowboys memorabilia. I have
Speaker 1: several signed photographs that uh, that I've gotten from Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I also have some life size stainless steel um plates
Speaker 1: that are in the media room actually blocking the light
Speaker 1: on the windows behind my chairs, uh, to darken the
Speaker 1: room that I had custom made and actually put up
Speaker 1: in there too, dark in the room. And those are
Speaker 1: of the triplets Eightman, Irving and Smith and uh, you
Speaker 1: know they're doing the champion strolls. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: cool sense there. And then I had a Randy White
Speaker 1: back when I was sixteen years old. I actually had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet Randy White out of the stock
Speaker 1: showing rodeo in Fort Worth and I was with my
Speaker 1: uncle and the only thing I had for Randy to
Speaker 1: sign was the business card the back of the business
Speaker 1: card of my uncle, and I had him sign that
Speaker 1: and I still had that and actually was able to
Speaker 1: show Randy that when he came out. But then also,
Speaker 1: I guess my biggest commitment as a fan is three
Speaker 1: years ago I started building a nineteen thirty three Factory
Speaker 1: five Racing Ford Replica hot rod. And I decided way
Speaker 1: before I even started building it, that this was going
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy themed vehicle. And it has a
Speaker 1: eight foot representation of the Cowboys Star. It's not the
Speaker 1: full star, but it's a representation of the star along
Speaker 1: the side of it. It is painted on. It's not
Speaker 1: a decal that I get to take off when they
Speaker 1: win or lose, or put on when they win and
Speaker 1: take off and they lose. And last year was the
Speaker 1: first year I had it completed, actually put seventy five
Speaker 1: hundred miles on the vehicle, and so that star was
Speaker 1: I was supporting those colors, the silver, the blue, and
Speaker 1: the white every mile of the way, no matter where
Speaker 1: I went in that car. So it wasn't just on
Speaker 1: game day, it wasn't just after a win, it was
Speaker 1: winter loss. It was on season or off season. And
Speaker 1: I actually I actually drove it today to work. So
Speaker 1: that's awesome to get more people that wave at you,
Speaker 1: or more people that all catch you and flip you
Speaker 1: off when you're in that car, so I get I
Speaker 1: actually do get more people that wave at meet. I
Speaker 1: get a few of the others, and I've actually had
Speaker 1: it to where somebody's actually pulled in front of me
Speaker 1: and turned on their wiper fluid. It's a hard time.
Speaker 1: It's a hard top, but I can remove the top
Speaker 1: and they've hit their wiper fluid. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was a Philly fan. Oh man, that is awesome. Well, Jamie,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. If you want to, let's get Jamie.
Speaker 1: Let's get Jamie into the Ford Hall of Fans. You
Speaker 1: can do that by going to Ford Hall of Fans
Speaker 1: dot com. That's Ford Hall of Fans dot com. Go
Speaker 1: right now while you're listening to the show. Vote for Jamie.
Speaker 1: You have until February of the first Go vote for
Speaker 1: in multiple times. Let's get him in. We don't want
Speaker 1: a Steelers fan in there. Let's get the cowboys in there.
Speaker 1: Let's get more cowboys in the Hall of Fame. We
Speaker 1: know they need to be more in there than they're
Speaker 1: already are. Let's start with Jamie. Jamie, appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: Once you get in, we'll have to get you back
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about your experience up in
Speaker 1: Ken Perfect. Thank you. I thank you guys for having
Speaker 1: me on. I greatly appreciate it, and we need a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan representing in there. So let's let's do what
Speaker 1: we can to make that happen. All right, let's do it. Hey,
Speaker 1: Thanks again, Jamie, and we'll be right back on the
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Speaker 1: we are back the last segment of the week. What
Speaker 1: are we going to talk about? You know what? First off,
Speaker 1: let's wish the Dallas Cowboys a happy birthday today. In
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty they were founded as a football team. Kurt,
Speaker 1: give us a little history lesson real quick on that,
Speaker 1: a little history lesson on the Dallas Cowboys. No, just
Speaker 1: on the on the founding day. I know you you
Speaker 1: sent us some notes on it, and Jonathan has some
Speaker 1: memorabil Yeah, tell us how it happened or how they
Speaker 1: applied or what the official day is it. You need
Speaker 1: to watch our documentary we did this past year about
Speaker 1: the foundation founding of the of the Cowboys, but it
Speaker 1: was a long process. Clint Murchkison Junior was the guy
Speaker 1: that kind of all brought it together, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting story that kind of the what
Speaker 1: they went through to get everybody's votes and the wheeling
Speaker 1: and dealing and that sort of thing. It's a fun story.
Speaker 1: But it finally all came to pass. Here owners in
Speaker 1: Miami voted on it this time nineteen sixty. I guess, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and yeah, here we are all right. Well,
Speaker 1: a happy birthday America's team. Also another another big day,
Speaker 1: I guess. Yesterday the news came out that Jason Witton,
Speaker 1: after one year away from the Cowboys, is going to
Speaker 1: retire and he's expected, I believe, to come back and
Speaker 1: sign a one day contract at some point and retire.
Speaker 1: A cowboy. Got a question about that in a second.
Speaker 1: And then there's another anniversary. This is the twenty fifth
Speaker 1: anniversary of Super Bowl thirty that Nate Newton played in. Nate,
Speaker 1: you got any fond memories super Bowl thirty? I know
Speaker 1: you played in so many of them and you won
Speaker 1: so many, but did anything stand out about thirty to you? Yes,
Speaker 1: we won. Do you still have all your Super Bowl rings? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, now one of them. My baby got them all. Baby.
Speaker 1: Do y'all get a replica trophy if you if you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got them somewhere. My ex wife got him, some
Speaker 1: kids got him, somebody got him. But I knew one thing.
Speaker 1: I got the rings they can have. I've always I've
Speaker 1: always heard that that Super Bowl thirty win, it was
Speaker 1: more relief than than joy after all you guys had
Speaker 1: been through. Is that true? Yeah? It was? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: Well but you know what, man, I'm gonna tell you what. Man, Wow,
Speaker 1: if those things were, Man, you have to be a
Speaker 1: part of that. Brother. Well, it don't matter whether you
Speaker 1: see this is the plus about mister Jones and his family.
Speaker 1: It don't matter whether you're a player or whether you
Speaker 1: work for the Cowboys as we are doing at this point.
Speaker 1: In those days when we won those games, man, everybody
Speaker 1: was was was truly a part of that family. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean when he threw the Super Bowl parties, even
Speaker 1: though we had parties of individual parties, we all walked
Speaker 1: in hit to his party to show that respect and
Speaker 1: that love for what he had put together. Man, And
Speaker 1: it was it's just tremendous, like just tremendous, man, and
Speaker 1: not in the content that we had that we gave
Speaker 1: the world as a team. That week was all can
Speaker 1: you imagine can you imagine from limos from papados, from
Speaker 1: going to clubs that were supposed to go to it
Speaker 1: that was all sanctioned to Magic Johnson, bodyguard be eating
Speaker 1: up Darrel Talley. So just so many great things out
Speaker 1: Devellas oh Man. Question about let's get it, you know what,
Speaker 1: Let's do that next week leading up to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Let's have super Bowl talk with Nate. Let's think of
Speaker 1: some questions for next week and we'll talk about super Bowls.
Speaker 1: Nate like that. I want to hear more about the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff, the getting beat up than I
Speaker 1: do on the on the on field stuff. Yeh. Jason Man,
Speaker 1: Darren Talley knows Jason went retiring. Finally, Kurt has a
Speaker 1: Kurt has a great question. Do you guys think, as
Speaker 1: as former players, guys that go spend a year or
Speaker 1: two at the at the end of their career somewhere
Speaker 1: else play one year for the guys that don't win
Speaker 1: a championship, do you think they regret that decision? And
Speaker 1: wish that they would have just stayed put because most
Speaker 1: of those guys, now you know, the higher profile guys,
Speaker 1: go back and sign a one day contract and retire
Speaker 1: with the team they spent most of their years with.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they they regret that or did
Speaker 1: they value one more shot at at going for a title?
Speaker 1: They got a value it, man, That's what I think.
Speaker 1: What's the guy? The center we had here went to
Speaker 1: the Ravens. It was yeah, man, you shoot man, you
Speaker 1: love that. Man, I mean, you've struggled here with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and we did kind of kick and gard to the side.
Speaker 1: It wasn't they did, but they invited, but they invited
Speaker 1: them back. Ray Lewis and all these guys invited them,
Speaker 1: you know, to this situation. So I mean, you you
Speaker 1: want a shot. You know, you play this game, and
Speaker 1: you have loyalties at your team that you played the
Speaker 1: most seasons with, especially when they drafted you and brought
Speaker 1: you up from a babe. But man, you you know, man, listen,
Speaker 1: some guys, no, then some guys go out for that
Speaker 1: money for that one. I'm about to say that they
Speaker 1: gave this with four million dollars. He wasn't getting four
Speaker 1: billion dollars from nowhere else four or five billion dollars.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no way in the hell. The Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders were going to the super Bowl this year. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was chasing. The Las Vegas started,
Speaker 1: they had a shot at getting to the to the
Speaker 1: second they playoffs, they had a shot, but getting in
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, as long as King
Speaker 1: Mahomes was in the AFC, ain't have no shot. And
Speaker 1: getting into the second round of the playoffs, they adn't
Speaker 1: have a shot. As long as King Mahomes was in
Speaker 1: the building, they didn't have they have a shot at
Speaker 1: getting to the super Bowl. He went to Oakland, not
Speaker 1: to get to the second round of the playoffs. He
Speaker 1: went to Oakland to try to chase a ring. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what you said, not only as King Mahomes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, if we're realist on this, right,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. He couldn't be here when
Speaker 1: he went over there, Like second round. Maybe if we
Speaker 1: play lights out, second round. Maybe if we play lights out,
Speaker 1: that's that's a thing you could be thinking. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think for fans, fans are always like you know, you
Speaker 1: take him at Smith playing in Arizona for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, or Tony Dorsett finished it and didn't real
Speaker 1: I think fans are disappointed to see that, but I
Speaker 1: guess for players, it's just you want to see if
Speaker 1: there's any gasol. Fans ain't betting the fandom saying fan, man,
Speaker 1: that was really disappointed. But did you have an extra
Speaker 1: couple of millions laying around this guy? You know a
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, it's not like they needed the money,
Speaker 1: but you know it's you know, to your point, Kurt,
Speaker 1: to your point, like a lot of times when when
Speaker 1: you talk about guys do want to, athletes are always
Speaker 1: the last ones to find out that you just don't
Speaker 1: got it anymore. Like we're always the last ones because
Speaker 1: in our minds we keep telling ourselves if I can
Speaker 1: just get right here, if I could just do this,
Speaker 1: they let me do that, and we're we're always the
Speaker 1: last one to know. It was like, hey, bro, you
Speaker 1: ain't what you used to be, and you do you
Speaker 1: do want to have that feeling of can I still
Speaker 1: do would I still have the passion to do it?
Speaker 1: You know? Well my body hold up? And so you
Speaker 1: do want to give it another shot. That that that
Speaker 1: definitely runs through that definitely runs through the mind. But
Speaker 1: for a guy like Jason Witten, who has just about
Speaker 1: every record and is a shut fire Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: for him, I thought he just delayed his getting his
Speaker 1: yellow jacket. I mean because again, going to to Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and at AFC, your chances of going to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, you had a chance in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, and it even looked good at some
Speaker 1: point in time. You were like, you know, it's five
Speaker 1: and three or six and four or something like that.
Speaker 1: And then you end up the season two and six,
Speaker 1: so you know, early on kind of like, all right,
Speaker 1: maybe we get to the playoffs, maybe we can make
Speaker 1: some noise. But there wasn't a real realistic chance that
Speaker 1: you were going to beat King Mahomes in the company
Speaker 1: and make it to the super Bowl. Nathan Jerry having
Speaker 1: regrets about that one year in Carolina, Now, it was fun.
Speaker 1: I went back with Tony wise, maybe we had some
Speaker 1: tragic things happened there, man, and that wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: it ain't worth talking about. But it was exciting because
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, you know, the things that happened was very,
Speaker 1: very severe and ugly, but it kept your eyes open
Speaker 1: because you've finally realized that the Cowboys been the only
Speaker 1: one with problems. Seriously, it opens Cowboys ain't only one
Speaker 1: dealing with crazy players. Okay, Kurt, last five minutes of
Speaker 1: the show, take it away. It's all you, no machine gun, Kurt,
Speaker 1: let's go. You ain't talking to the wall. Kurt. Make
Speaker 1: sure you ain't talking to the wall. Now. If nobody
Speaker 1: else answer, y'all answer you, Kurt. Yeah right, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these. I had some other subjects,
Speaker 1: but they might be for bigger. Um, don't give us
Speaker 1: a trap. Look, we got you now have four minutes.
Speaker 1: Don't give us a fifteen minute subject from four minute conversation.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, okay, they're serious. One one of
Speaker 1: our we got. There's a lot of good Cowboys bloggers
Speaker 1: out there. One of them suggested there are four players
Speaker 1: that you could potentially trade this offseason to get, you know,
Speaker 1: picks or improve your defense or something like that. And
Speaker 1: I just I thought it was an interesting four and
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your opinions. One is Michael Gallup.
Speaker 1: He's been brought up a lot sis a guy who
Speaker 1: would maybe trade and consider. The next is Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: which I think everybody is, you know, kind of on
Speaker 1: the off the Jadome Smith bandwagon and wanting to see more.
Speaker 1: The last year are a little more interesting. One is
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. He hadn't didn't do much his first year
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, hurt a lot last year
Speaker 1: with a new defensive coordinator in who's a defensive line coach?
Speaker 1: You wonder if he's still fit. The last one he
Speaker 1: had his Dalton Schultz. He said, you know, Dalton just
Speaker 1: had a great year. You've got Jarwin coming, Matt back.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the time to sell high. What do
Speaker 1: you think about those four guys or any possible trades
Speaker 1: this off either I think to me, I mean you
Speaker 1: can you can even add and Nate hung on like this,
Speaker 1: but you can even add twenty one to the mix.
Speaker 1: You can add Zeke to that mix as well. Loving that,
Speaker 1: oh no, Nate, loving that. I do think you can add.
Speaker 1: You can add Zeke into that conversation, because um, there
Speaker 1: there are there are a lot of backs. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they're going to be better than Zeke, but there
Speaker 1: are a lot of backs that you can get in
Speaker 1: and you can have the same productivity with two or
Speaker 1: three backs, then you would have with the one back
Speaker 1: for a lot less uh at cost, and it would
Speaker 1: bring back enough to this team needs to pile up
Speaker 1: on defensive picks. I doubt that you're going to get
Speaker 1: anything for day Jalen Smith. Michael Gallup may bring you
Speaker 1: back something, but I just think what he brings to
Speaker 1: this team offensively being at wide receiver number three and
Speaker 1: his ability to stretch the field um that that's going
Speaker 1: to be important when you want to get a route
Speaker 1: running guy underneath and a guy in the slot like
Speaker 1: cdm sleep Cede Land to have someone take the top
Speaker 1: off this the defense, and that's that guy's Michael gallop Um.
Speaker 1: And Tristan Hill again another one who I doesn't think
Speaker 1: for the one year that he kind of played, there
Speaker 1: wasn't enough that I look at that and go, well,
Speaker 1: let's let him go and bring back the Hall. But
Speaker 1: I think if you add a player like Jeke Elliott
Speaker 1: to the mix, now you're talking about someone that he
Speaker 1: becomes a finishing touch to another franchise that can that
Speaker 1: can really use a player like that, maybe like a
Speaker 1: team like Baltimore, maybe a team. If the Jets signed
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, you know, maybe Zeke to the Jets or um,
Speaker 1: they probably won't have any more picks left to give you.
Speaker 1: But there are a bunch of teams the Bronco There
Speaker 1: are a bunch of teams who can use a running
Speaker 1: back like Zeke that would give you, that will give
Speaker 1: you some picks back in return. Yeah, like the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys not giving way Zeke for nothing. No I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm saying. I'm saying get nothing. No, no, get
Speaker 1: a haulback form. You can get a hauldback for even
Speaker 1: a geting. But but but a great, great ass jest,
Speaker 1: what's the next one, Kurt? Well, well, I think we're
Speaker 1: that that we're out of time. Well, I got some
Speaker 1: more questions for you next week we can do but wow, wow,
Speaker 1: we'll give We'll give you more time. We'll give you
Speaker 1: ten minutes next. Let me give it. That was just
Speaker 1: let me shout out. I was Stephen Molinex with the
Speaker 1: Landry Hat blog. They do a nice job over there,
Speaker 1: so I just want to give him a little credit
Speaker 1: for that. So all right, but would you trade how
Speaker 1: about would you trade Dalton Schultz up to the year
Speaker 1: he had sell High. Ain't touching my offense. I touch
Speaker 1: him my offense, but don't defense have added have at offense.
Speaker 1: I'll trade, I'll trade Dalton Schultz. I'll talk. Can you
Speaker 1: how can you improve your defense if you don't get
Speaker 1: you some of your ratsets on offense? No listen if
Speaker 1: the phone is open for dults shoults. If so one
Speaker 1: wants to call for Dalton Schultz, the phone is open,
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances there. I'm sure Blake jarw was
Speaker 1: gonna come back problemly, ready to go, Blake jar I
Speaker 1: let them dope be open for him. I know what
Speaker 1: dog can do. The dog get open for the other cat,
Speaker 1: but I ain't man. Yeah, you pay the other cat.
Speaker 1: I am so tired of potential. If I got somebody
Speaker 1: in the offense and I know what they can do,
Speaker 1: who they are? They got another year with with Kellen.
Speaker 1: Let's go got his game right? My man's name right?
Speaker 1: Killing not killing? Oh yeah, because he finally or something
Speaker 1: the last three times of the year. Right, he deserved
Speaker 1: to have his name pronounced correctly. You know what? That
Speaker 1: would be a good segment like your forehead when you
Speaker 1: when you do that's just the forehead shot. It was nice.
Speaker 1: That'd be a good segment. Is the phone open? Is
Speaker 1: the phone open? And just go through the list? Who
Speaker 1: would you trade? Who would you be open to trade?
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do that next year, fellas. It's been fun.
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this weekend, the virtual Pro Bowl, the maddened
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is what's happening this weekend. So did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get like eight to nine backup guys on the team.
Speaker 1: It's virtual, so everybody, everybody who got his virtual so
Speaker 1: everybody who's got originally voted will be there. You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about doing so. Did Jalen get in
Speaker 1: his sponsorship with his clear eye view? He's right here
Speaker 1: all right? Nay, good see you, Kurt, good seeing you
Speaker 1: keep talking to that wall, Jesse, good seeing you. Even
Speaker 1: though the show didn't start out so great view baby,
Speaker 1: you know that view that we got before we came
Speaker 1: on the air. We need less of that, more of
Speaker 1: the forehead, less of that, yeah, less of the other one,
Speaker 1: uh beam, and thanks for keeping us. He was jealous, jealous.
Speaker 1: Here We will be back same time. Hey plays next Thursday,
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